airsoft

[grizzled hill]

Damn

Premium ammo

[sinful agate]

6mm AP rounds

[smoky thunder]

Yea

[zinc bramble]

Guns don't tend to spit out grit from inside

Just not how machines work

[smoky thunder]

I'm not saying that

I'm saying if your gun is even getting dirty to the point where things are locking up

The AR is good as dead

This is more or less the only practical difference between the rifles

[zinc bramble]

The ak is as good as dead too

No gun functions properly when it's fouled

Except maybe like a musket or something

[smoky thunder]

Disproven 3 years ago

https://youtu.be/htkYVB4LaDM

[zinc bramble]

Watch inrange tv

[smoky thunder]

I mean if you're even letting your gear get this bad you have bigger issues

[zinc bramble]

And polenar tactical

That's true

[smoky thunder]

I already have

[zinc bramble]

But regardless

[smoky thunder]

It's all the same thing

[zinc bramble]

Neither works well

[smoky thunder]

AR sealed better

But once it malfunctions

It's dead

[zinc bramble]

Yes

Same as the ak

It works slightly better

But not well at all

[smoky thunder]

Working at all is better than not at all

[zinc bramble]

Would you rather eat poo or drink pee

One is better

But not that it matters much

[smoky thunder]

Yes

[grizzled hill]

I’d rather drink pee

[zinc bramble]

What I'm trying to say, is it's not a significant benefit

[grizzled hill]

Goes down easier

[smoky thunder]

Exactly

There's little practical difference between the platforms

[zinc bramble]

This is true tbh

Ak is alot more accurate than its made out to be

The ars biggest benefit is its ergonomics

[smoky thunder]

And even then AKs have become a lot more modular over the years so they're not as uncomfortable either

[zinc bramble]

At the same time, it's the same reason why l85 is so good on paper, but so ass in practice

Shitty ergo

[limber flame]

ayo?

[grizzled hill]

Ak platform is mid and I have undeniable proof

[smoky thunder]

Your buddy Eric told me he was jk when he told you that

You've been duped

Had

Bamboozled

[zinc bramble]

Ak is ok

It's cheap to produce

[grizzled hill]

My proof is that AK stands for Alarmingly kringe

[zinc bramble]

And works quite well for its cost

[grizzled hill]

Therefor it is bad

[limber flame]

you have a mutant

[zinc bramble]

Bruh

[limber flame]

opinion irrelevant

[smoky thunder]

LOL

[grizzled hill]

My mutant is very cool mister

I don’t want to hear it

[limber flame]

is it fuck

mid ass gun

[oak bane]

AK is superior because I like it more

[grizzled hill]

I will strangle you

[oak bane]

cry about it

[limber flame]

lets take an AR
and put it in a worse caliber

[zinc bramble]

This is factual

[smoky thunder]

Best take

[grizzled hill]

Bigger bullet=better

Duh

[smoky thunder]

Yeah

[limber flame]

drops like a stone past 300 yards

just get an AR10

[grizzled hill]

Higher flesh damage

[smoky thunder]

AR is inferior because it started the pcc trend

[limber flame]

exactly

[smoky thunder]

Why my AR 9mm

[grizzled hill]

I want that AR57

[limber flame]

you are banned from participating in this conversation

only good pcc is vityaz

[grizzled hill]

No

Mutant is the chaddest of guns

Because it’s good in tarkov it must be the best irl

Simply facts

[oak bane]

based

[smoky thunder]

I mean hey if meta says it's true it must be true

[grizzled hill]

^

Mutant has a amazing 53 vertical recoil with high auto control stat

Being able to use BP with these stats means it is unstoppable

Rate of fire of slower smgs with the firepower of an AK

The mutant is truly unstoppable

Also it looks cool

Therefor best

[crystal rover]

this is airsoft not tarkov chat

begone

[grizzled hill]

No

Tarkov controls my reality

[thin turret]

if anyone wants to snipe in airsoft i recommend the novrisch ssg10a3

[limber flame]

no

nov is a cuck

overpriced shit

have had 3 nov guns in the past
2 were gifts

all had major issues

[thin turret]

really?

[limber flame]

ssg24
ssx and the ssp

cant remember the numbers

[thin turret]

mine has been great so far

[limber flame]

the ssp slide just decided the disconnect from the BBU
the ssx mag release snapped and the slide cracked

the ssg bolt wouldnt catch on the sear

that had to be modded to even work

[thin turret]

damn that sucks.

[limber flame]

his customer service is ass
if you want to send stuff back you have to pay
and theres no promise that it will get through customs

[thin turret]

anyways do you recommend any gas blowback rifles

[grizzled hill]

Oh you mean really cool wastes of money?

Lol

[thin turret]

yes

[limber flame]

vfc bcm mcmr or sr16

TM MWS

those are the only really good usable ones

unfortunatley m4s

[grizzled hill]

I want a gas scar but I can’t afford to blow $600 into a gun and another $200 on mags

[limber flame]

since ghk is ass still

[thin turret]

ok ill do some research

[limber flame]

their aks are shit with QC

if you want a server to ask about gbbr stuff i can send you one

[wary wing]

people with polarstars are mad scary 💀

[crystal rover]

reeee

[crystal rover]

i disagree

[zinc bramble]

Polarstars are scary if the dudes who use them are good

Sometimes they are mid, or kinda bad

And it's not very scary

[crystal rover]

no polarstars are scary if the ppl who are using them dont have self control and trigger discipline

rental not calling hits

[smoky thunder]

Phillbo airsoft cheater rage compilation when?

[sinful agate]

Tfw noveritch sells airsoft plate carrier for the price of a crye jpc

[sinful agate]

Also their shit qc was recently. If you bought a ghk before COVID, those are the good ones that actually has qc

[crystal rover]

never

i dont shit on fields like that

also issa rental

[sinful agate]

Yeah, if it's one hit they shrugged off it's no biggie

[crystal rover]

it was like 6 bbs

to the head

[sinful agate]

My girlfriend actually played airsoft for the first time. She was ref-checked while talking to me mid-game and was like "did I get hit?" And then she got shot again and called it

[crystal rover]

i feel that some times

[sinful agate]

Also pretty sure she was targeted by some ass hole too, because she kept telling me she was getting shot from behind while facing the enemies

So I'm not sure if the ref was focusing on her, or some asshole thinks it's ok to shoot teammates

[crystal rover]

will it not let me send messages

feel bad, lit this dude up he didnt have a gun

the fuck up

bruh

discord acting up

siege lean

[limber flame]

good luck getting a pre 2020 ghk for a good price

[crystal rover]

welp

https://youtu.be/EXsOPo2OHLI

[grizzled hill]

So I’ve been looking into getting Mk17 and cyber guns has good reviews all around for about $350 The only issue is people say the hop up breaks easily so should I get it and replace the hopup or should I just get a different model?

[crystal rover]

ngl

just dont get a mk17, not much you can mod on them anyway

unless you already have guns, get a m4 or ak

[grizzled hill]

I’ve already got alternatives

I just like the scar as a collectible tbh

[sinful agate]

I have a vfc mk17 on my workbench rn. Just replaced the hopup, trigger assembly, wiring, and few gearbox internals like piston, nozzle, and tappet plate.

Is a pain to work on btw

[summer pagoda]

RA-Tech kits are pretty decent from what I've researched

[sinful agate]

Taking off the top and lower receiver was a pain and I can see why ppl could break their hopup so easily

[sinful agate]

RA-tech for GHK wii-tech for WE

They have interchangeable parts if you modify them

[crystal rover]

when i had a scare it was a pain to strip down to reset the hopup

[grizzled hill]

The one that I’m looking at seems to just have a shitty plastic one that breaks easily if it’s impacted or sometimes even adjusted harshly

So that’s why I’m hesitant

[sinful agate]

Get a gbbr scar

[grizzled hill]

Although as always I’m trying to stay on a budget as I’m constantly broke

[sinful agate]

Get that clank clank each shot

[crystal rover]

https://www.evike.com/products/82484/ this is what i had

good gun lasted 2 years

but the magwell and stock are abit jacky

janky*

[sinful agate]

I bought my scar from boneyard . It was only $100

Plan was to fix it, play like 1 game with it and then sell it

[grizzled hill]

I’m trying to just get the mk17 version of that

Same brand

[summer pagoda]

Cybergun is rather... mediocre at best

[grizzled hill]

But they are cheap and work decently

That’s all I need

[summer pagoda]

That is true, just be careful with the body

Stocks also tend to crack afaik

[grizzled hill]

I’m not too harsh on my guns

I only go airsofting a few times a year anyway I collect these replicas for my gun addiction

Real guns are expensive

[crystal rover]

from what it looks the difference in the mag

so just buy a straight mag

[sinful agate]

My scar h vfc has a metal upper, everything else is polymer

[crystal rover]

are you in the us?

[grizzled hill]

Yes

[crystal rover]

i could send you a website that has a decent mk17 selection but the shipping price is like 40

[summer pagoda]

I'm getting my M4 tomorrow

[crystal rover]

what type

[summer pagoda]

GHK+RA

[grizzled hill]

How much would it total out too? I’m trying to keep things under $400

[crystal rover]

200 tops

or using every now and then

[grizzled hill]

How do they perform? If at least like something reliable

[sinful agate]

It's a regular v2

[grizzled hill]

Because I want to get into airsoft more but I cannot drive atm but should be able to by the end of the year

[crystal rover]

the scar-h has a bigger mag well

[sinful agate]

Gearbox is the same still

Both a v2 gearbox like every other m4 or m4-like variants

[crystal rover]

yeah

put it has a weird as hop

[grizzled hill]

So overall is the gist I’m getting here is cheap and decently functional?

So that’s kinda all I need

[sinful agate]

In terms of out-of-box I'm not sure about the reliability, but you can def build a v2 gearbox for cheap that's decent

[crystal rover]

BY-805 from Double Bell is next model from BY Series. Material used to build this rifle is aluminum worked by CNC technology (Upper Receiver) and resistant nylon fiber (Lower Receiver, stock, pistol grip) which is used to real gun production. On attention deserve precision flip-up folding sights with full regulation. Replica is equipped with three step collapsible stock that comprehend battery. Second asset of this stock is possibility to folding aside, it`s makes replica more handy in CQB. Replica same as original have Multi Magazine Catch that provide to release magazine from both sides of rifle. Fire mode selector can be used from both sides too.

A gearbox with a quick spring change system, and aluminum piston head with bearings and a piston with a full metal rack were used.
The problem with the electrical contacts of the stock was also solved by using the power cord directly.

Parts that are mounted inside gearbox mechanism:
· reinforced piston head
· 7mm steel bearing
· M125 spring
· spring guide with bearing for smoother spring work

NOTE! We can downgrade to 330 fps (1 Joule) in price. Just write about it in order commentary.

Set include:
· replica
· 300rd hicap magazine

Every replica pass initial check up. It's being checked and overshooted on XCORTECH X3200 chronograph.

Attention! Please note that Battery and Charger are not included.

can choose fps aswell

[sinful agate]

You're not going to get a perfectly tuned scar with cybergun, but you can however easily (relative) upgrade it with plenty of aftermarket parts

[grizzled hill]

Ok cool

Well thank you guys but I only do outdoor so do these do decent at range?

[sinful agate]

That would depend on your hopup

[crystal rover]

it should be fine stock

[sinful agate]

If you want far far range, youd need to tune it

Aka, calculating barrel volume to cylinder ratio. A good bucking for your desired fps/temperature and a nub for that said bucking

[crystal rover]

reason i like m4s is cause you drop a maxx hop in it and you good

[sinful agate]

Youd still need a good steel barrel and a well tuned nub and bucking setup

[crystal rover]

ye

maple leaf bucking and angle customs barrel

[slate leaf]

Anyone know how to program a purune mossfet for the vector

[scarlet condor]

what website is that?

[crystal rover]

a website

[scarlet condor]

...

what website is it

[crystal rover]

a website

[scarlet condor]

you have some kind of NDA?

[crystal rover]

basicallt

[scarlet condor]

why couldn't you just say "it's a private website" instead of going "hehe a website!!!"

kinda annoying

[crystal rover]

because it isnt private

i just cant diclose what it is

you can still go look for it if you want

ngl kinda easy to find

[scarlet condor]

it's gonna be kinda hard to look for it when the only screenshots I can see are FPS options and 2 guns

if I can go look for it why can't you tell me

[crystal rover]

i used that to find it

you just need to know what to type in

[scarlet condor]

could you tell me what I need to type in

because I don't

[crystal rover]

what is the most inportant information in the image with the guns

[scarlet condor]

oh I found it

why are you not allowed to disclose what it is

[crystal rover]

because if ppl start using ti to much prices go up, and customs starts sending back ppls shit

happened to my friend

[scarlet condor]

i see

[crystal rover]

was like a 1k order and he had to spend a extra 120 for import fees cause cutoms sent it back

after the shipping

[scarlet condor]

time to go look for an M4A1

[crystal rover]

traditional m4a1?

[scarlet condor]

yea

couldn't find one

[crystal rover]

look up m733

or m629

or the CM.009

@scarlet condor

[scarlet condor]

like this one but with a carry handle

[crystal rover]

CM.007

[scarlet condor]

hmm

[crystal rover]

on the website you idiot

[scarlet condor]

looks good but I guess I'll have to buy an LE stock separately

[scarlet condor]

well that was awful rude

[crystal rover]

.-.

[scarlet condor]

both the M733 and the M629 aren't M4s

those are XM177s

[crystal rover]

well i dint know fully what you meant till you sent that image

cause that basically the m4a1

[sinful agate]

Basic colt m4a1

[slate leaf]

So I just put a mosfet and barrel in my gun and it lost quiet a lot of range and don't know what to do and don't think thr hop up is working

[crystal rover]

make sure your barrel is properly placed

[sinful agate]

Did you turn your hop up?

Did your nub drop as you were replacing your barrel?

Replacing barrel and adding a MOSFET shouldn't change your range unless you've messed with the hopup

I'd say start from there

[slate leaf]

I put the bucking back in

[crystal rover]

make sure everything is lined up

[slate leaf]

Wdym

[crystal rover]

hopups have to put together a certain way to work properly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iAwIubpniQ

nvm

not that video

thats how to put it together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XDtGbQBtNc

go to like 16:30 @slate leaf

[slate leaf]

I got it working now ty

Wasn't lined up properly

[rugged karma]

My E&L got fucked up within literally

4 games

Gotta love it

Gearbox and hop are fucked

[oak bane]

Platinium series?

if not it explains why

[crystal rover]

Nice

what type of battery do you use

Cause if it fits in just the buffer tube drop a magpul moe on that bitch and we mad vibing after

[crystal rover]

See, it need to be lined properly to work

[summer pagoda]

None.

GBBR

[crystal rover]

Ah even better

Def get a magpul moe then

[summer pagoda]

GHK/RA kit with Geiselle handguard*

And Geiselle receiver

[crystal rover]

Get magpul moe stock

[summer pagoda]

Down the line, sure

But as of now it'll be RVG, T1 sight, irons, small light... And that's it

Basic, but light and efficient

[lapis burrow]

i wonder if there are any MK47 mutants

like airsoft mutants

[limber flame]

there are

just a bit shit

very proprietary

mag compatability is iffy at best

[lapis burrow]

i mean it takes any 7.62 mags no?

well not the real deal mags

but yk what i mean

[summer pagoda]

Real steel yes, airsoft is iffy

[lapis burrow]

i saw somewhere that a 7.62 mdr is being worked on

i wonder if it would be any good

[limber flame]

mags will be a bitch unless it can use existing sr25 mags

[crystal rover]

They like 60

[summer pagoda]

Just gotta check what buffer tube I got

[crystal rover]

There is mk47

But they are very pricey

[summer pagoda]

To see if I'd have to go for milspec or civ one

[limber flame]

its GHK correct?

[summer pagoda]

Yeah

[limber flame]

if so then its more than likely milspec

only TM has civ due to the laws there iirc

[crystal rover]

Btw there is no difference between milspec and Civ, it’s all about construction grade

[summer pagoda]

Nope, there is

[limber flame]

theres thickness

[summer pagoda]

Few mms off between two

[limber flame]

milspec tubes are a bit thicker

[crystal rover]

which isn’t a big issue

[summer pagoda]

Wobble city it is if mixed up

[crystal rover]

Magpul moe carbines are Civ I believe

[limber flame]

source
i tried to throw a civ spec stock onto a milspec buffer
now i deal with having to mortar it to shorten the stock

[crystal rover]

Idk tho

The moe is mil spec

https://magpul.com/firearm-accessories/stocks/moe-carbine-stock-mil-spec.html?mp_global_color=118

[summer pagoda]

Next month perhaps

Crypto and airsoft took more than expected

[crystal rover]

Lol

[summer pagoda]

Yeah, discount season kek

[slate leaf]

If I were to put a high power motor into my airsoft gun and keep the rest stock would it be fine

[summer pagoda]

Overspin risk

And depends what gears you have

[slate leaf]

What is overspin

Also the gun is a krytac vector do you think it would be fine @summer pagoda

[sinful agate]

Rule of thumb is do your research, if you don't know, don't try to upgrade the part

[sleek ferry]

You poor soul, it's a cunt to get into Krytac Vector gearboxes from what my techs have told me

[scarlet condor]

can anyone recommend some good metal STANAG mid caps

[slate leaf]

You gotta find out somehow that's why I'm asking

[sinful agate]

Yeah... Not everyone here has krytech and not all airsoft guns are built the same. So you really do need to do deeper research on the web regarding the specific of your gun and brand

Guns can have different gear ratio, different teeth counts for pistons, different motor heights, etc...

[scarlet condor]

you know he IS doing research by asking here, right?

[sinful agate]

Who?

[scarlet condor]

you're gonna go "cares " aren't you

[sinful agate]

No I'm asking who are you referring to

[slate leaf]

Joe

[sinful agate]

I don't think anyone in this discord goes by the name Joe

[scarlet condor]

i'm referring to the guy asking you if he can upgrade his motor

[sinful agate]

Has he tried googling it yet?

[slate leaf]

I have done my research but their is not much info

[sinful agate]

Have you checked airsoft tech forms?

Or joined an airsoft page correlated your manufacture?

There are plenty of those kinds of community around. They're a lot more helpful because people posting in those have actual references or experience in working or teching on the specific manufacturer or gun

For example, cyma and lct both make vfc-clones AK. They have the exact same gearbox and motor. Yet... Cyma and Lct parts are not exactly a snug fit.

[smoky thunder]

Imagine if you just suggested that to begin with instead of telling him to figure it out himself

[serene glen]

Finished her just in time for summer games!

[sinful agate]

Or he can ask if I could elaborate

[smoky thunder]

I mean I guess

Not that there was anything to elaborate on

[sinful agate]

"what exactly should I be searching for to find this info?"

He asked a tech question about why his gun lost range, and I gave it multiple potential issues. Wouldn't need to ask all that question if he could search up "why did my airsoft gun lose range after barrel and hopup replacement"

Look at all those resources

[smoky thunder]

Original question

[smoky thunder]

Original reply

Could've just set him on the path and left it

Is all I'm saying

[sinful agate]

I was referring to his question earlier

[smoky thunder]

Well I'm not lol

[sinful agate]

You see. If you keep feeding people that don't do research, they'll never learn

I try my best to help those that need airsoft problems, but something as simple as that should be a google search away

Like there is no excuse not to do first hand research

I don't own a krytech vector so I don't want to give false information either.

I wouldn't trust someone giving advise on something they never tried or had

[smoky thunder]

Still could've just answered "probably not but who knows, have you tried googling ___? Also try checking/asking these communities"

Anyways, who cares

The issue is being blown out of proportion now and I'm sure dude couldn't care less

Let's go back to posting pics of builds or something

[sinful agate]

I'm just trying to assure everyone that I'm not trying to be toxic. I just want ppl to either learn, or bring it to a tech

Chances are, without a proper research, you'll be spending a lot of money and time on it

[smoky thunder]

That's fair, and it wasn't my intention to put you on defense and turn it into a trial

Was just my 2 cents

[sinful agate]

That's fine, I don't really care either since it's not my gun. After all, it is his gun and his responsibility if he wants it to be upgraded

I do want to keep a good reputation tho

[crystal rover]

fuck working ona vector bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7WNZNZqK60

[slate leaf]

It's a pain

But worth it cause I love vectors

[sinful agate]

Owning the vector:

Techhing the vector

[limber flame]

inb4 you get warned for "posting memes" because the mods are wack here

[sinful agate]

Shhh... Don't let them know...

[limber flame]

[sinful agate]

Rate my setup (not my setup)

[limber flame]

high drag low speed larperator

[sinful agate]

Larperator uses regular camera with green filter and call it an nvg

[slate leaf]

-_-

[crystal rover]

Meal team 7

[drifting ravine]

where can I get replica airsoft shipped/bought in Canada?

[summer pagoda]

King Arms

[sinful agate]

Ain't Canada trynna ban airsoft?

[drifting ravine]

I have no idea. I wouldn't put it past the gov

[junior sedge]

Ban Canada

[lapis burrow]

why tf would they ban AIRSOFT

[oak bane]

canada

[lapis burrow]

so canada moment 😔

mfs really went "yes lets ban fake gun that shoot plastic bb"

[oak bane]

it's scary!!

[lapis burrow]

very!!!!11

[slate leaf]

you can go blind if you shoot yourself in the eye!!

[wraith current]

Get to shoot a Milsim again this year ! Last year we had just under 300 players.. Check out last years flicks at
https://www.kylepouliotphotography.ca/Sports/Airsoft/OPERATION-LOYAL-SERPENT-5/

[wraith current]

They trying to restrict more restricted firearms, and because of joules and FPS airsoft is in that category. They wanna restrict use, travel and sales... So if it passes you can't even leave the house with your gear. It'll kill the sport but It's getting alot of pushback up here

[rapid current]

@wraith current good to go

Automod playin games

[scarlet condor]

went on Evike and the only ones were polymer

[summer pagoda]

There are steel ones

[scarlet condor]

could you link them for me?

[summer pagoda]

Can't find KA's, but G&G's are up

https://www.evike.com/products/68124/

[scarlet condor]

haha based the only ones in stock are the 5 packs

just what I needed

[scarlet condor]

do S&T make good GBB guns?

i'm looking at this Cybergun S&T M4 and I want to get one

[summer pagoda]

Setup done

[summer pagoda]

KWA is the baseline I think with their LM4

TM/GHK/VT* are better ones

[sinful agate]

TM MWS is by far the best on the market right now. Main reason is the gas efficiency and the magical Marui hopup

[scarlet condor]

yeah but

i simply can't afford that AND magazines

and the RIS one is even more expensive

now I can afford a KWA LM4, but no way in hell am I ever gonna get a TM MWS

[sinful agate]

Sorry bud, but tbh in airsoft. You get what you pay for. There are only a small handful of companies that make decently good cheap guns but they still have a lot of downsides to them.

Also $400-$600 is pretty average for gbbe btw. You can get cheaper guns overseas but you'll have to deal with international shipping and longer shipping time

Going cheap = less sturdy material (ie plastic body), weaker metal parts ( cheap aluminum instead of steel), weak gearbox (weak piston, gearbox shell, potmetal gears, weak motor, etc..)

Oh and chances are, hopup and nub combo probably won't get much range but those are cheap to upgrade

[summer pagoda]

And because there are moving parts, those get worn out faster

[sinful agate]

And stay away from electric blow back at all cost

Those things are gun killers

[summer pagoda]

Plus there is more in costs/time spent on maintenance

[summer pagoda]

Except Marui ones.

The next gen EBB is better to an extent

[sinful agate]

The next gen recoil shock is cool, but I don't know the reliability of it

[summer pagoda]

Tho mag comp sucks

[sinful agate]

I saw their mk48 saw is pretty cool

The ammo belt jiggle as if it's getting fed

[summer pagoda]

Still, ways behind GBBR

/Daytona

[sinful agate]

True, but u gotta lug around an air tank

I was gonna buy a Daytona ak74m but I didn't have $600 at the moment

[summer pagoda]

I planned on SCAR with Daytona

[scarlet condor]

i see that but i would rather not buy a $600 gun when I can buy a $450 gun

i don't think $450 vs $600 is going to mean the gun is shit

[summer pagoda]

But got the gem above, paid 50% of what I originally planned to spend overall, and here I am now

[sinful agate]

You don't have to, just food for thought

[limber flame]

with GBBR's
yeah it will

[sinful agate]

All things will break, but the question is how long will it last

[scarlet condor]

so that means any KWA is shit?

[summer pagoda]

WE G36 is a good example I think

[scarlet condor]

all of them are shit? I'm just out of luck unless I buy a TM?

[sinful agate]

Yes, kwa isn't well known for their gbbr

Their aeg km4 is good tho

[summer pagoda]

Except Vectors.

[limber flame]

the LM4's are generally shite

[scarlet condor]

well fuck me I guess

[limber flame]

most of their gbb's are tbf

[summer pagoda]

QC is an RNG lottery

[sinful agate]

Kwa ak are also shit too

Gbbr one

[limber flame]

just like GHK

[sinful agate]

😩

I settled down with a WE instead of GHK

[limber flame]

vfc bcm mcmr or sr16 are other good ones

[summer pagoda]

can't have QC issues if it was modded and passed external QC

[sinful agate]

Just need to buy $140 worth of steel internals to make it reliable

[summer pagoda]

Yeah, VFC is a good pick

[limber flame]

"external QC"
the biggest pile of shit

droopy ahh barrels

[sinful agate]

Janky 3d printer parts that only last for one game

[summer pagoda]

By that I mean it went thru first RA, and then another tech.

[sinful agate]

"another tech"

Nah bro they eyeball it

[limber flame]

oh yeah
you got the RA one
i was more referencing GHK in general

they have "external QC checks"

[scarlet condor]

guess i'm stuck with an AEG then

[sinful agate]

RA tech internals also works on WE

[summer pagoda]

Oh, those

[limber flame]

probably by a blind person

[sinful agate]

Unfortunately so....

[summer pagoda]

Yeah, I agree on baseline GHK

[scarlet condor]

or maybe I could just stop saving up for night vision

[scarlet condor]

(I will not stop saving up for night vision.)

[sinful agate]

Decent starter night vision like pvs-14 gen 3 monocular cost at least 2k

[scarlet condor]

yes I noticed

I have bills too you know

[sinful agate]

I think that goes the same with everyone here

[scarlet condor]

I'd rather save as much money as I can to get a PVS-14 than drop it on other expensive stuff on the way there

maybe when we get our cars paid off

[sinful agate]

I personally like to live debt free so I never buy from dealerships

You can also try hopup for 2nd hand aeg. Usually airsoft lots have pretty good deals @scarlet condor

[scarlet condor]

kinda difficult to do that when there was only one of these within 500 miles of me

[summer pagoda]

Ah yes, NVG, the light in the dark towards giving away the kidneys

[scarlet condor]

i don't need to go second hand for AEGs lel

[scarlet condor]

lemme just divert all my waste to the left one

[sinful agate]

2nd aegs are prob better since most ppl upgrade it

[scarlet condor]

but yeah I've heard of hopup

[limber flame]

the buy once, cry every day because youre now homeless

[scarlet condor]

they also only make a thousand of these every year

[sinful agate]

At least u can cry tactically at night

[summer pagoda]

just like Crye

[scarlet condor]

hehe fast car

[sinful agate]

Buys cars, but can't afford gas

Tis the American way

And european way

[summer pagoda]

But yeah, we miscommunicated above

I was referring to RA Tech + my tech QC, but yeah, GHK QC by itself needs to take a sucking lesson from Sasha Grey

[scarlet condor]

laughs in 30 mpg

[limber flame]

buys electric car because of gas prices
its shit

[scarlet condor]

i also have an electric car

it is in fact not shit

[limber flame]

sorry to hear that

[scarlet condor]

like I said it's not shit

[limber flame]

its an electric car

[scarlet condor]

unlike some people I did not buy a prius

[limber flame]

inherently shit

[sinful agate]

Buys electric car to save gas
Can't annoy neighbor with loud exhaust
Sell car

[limber flame]

[scarlet condor]

Ok pal

[limber flame]

buys motorbike instead

[scarlet condor]

buys harley
gets 2 mpg
annoys neighbors
life good

[sinful agate]

I live in Cali, I fear for my life on a daily even in a regular car with psychopaths driving

[scarlet condor]

at least they know how to merge there

god damn I hate florida

[sinful agate]

It's a common courtesy to merge without warning here

[scarlet condor]

at least they can do it properly

[limber flame]

insert family guy asian woman driving here

[summer pagoda]

You guys can merge

[scarlet condor]

mfs here slow to 15 mph at the on ramp and then are bewildered when they have to go fast because it's the highway

they also can't figure out that they have to let people IN at on ramps

[summer pagoda]

Fuck, in PL people don't know to move away when ambulance drives by, or how to drive in roundabouts

[scarlet condor]

neither do people in florida

there are two things they know how to do

1. turn on car
2. g o

[sinful agate]

Bag of AK parts

[scarlet condor]

dont let the atf see that, theyll think its real!

[scarlet condor]

just got told by a guy that a GBBR isn't worth it, only pistols are

Doubt

[copper beacon]

You have my attention

[grizzled hill]

I feel like they are cool but their performance is not amazing for the price due to the exceptionally small mag capacity

[smoky thunder]

GBB is a way of life

EBB just isn't the same

[grizzled hill]

I agree I love my gbb mp7 more than my other guns but it’s just so damn expensive

For roughly the same performance as Ebb with smaller mags

[sinful agate]

Gbbr is honestly just more of a flex than a "good gun"

It has less bb capacity, slower firerate, inconsistency with range, takes longer to fill bb and gas...

But to have the gun pop, kick, and rack is definitely worth the downside

Because with aeg, you don't get the same feel as a gbbr

Gbbr act very similar to how a real gun would work, which is why people are willing to pay a lot of money because aeg can't replicate that feel

[grizzled hill]

Yeah I want a gbb scar but holy shot the price of the gun and mags

[sinful agate]

even a WE is too expensive? cheapest gbbr Scar I can find
https://www.evike.com/products/57579/

[slate leaf]

Damn some people here hate airsoft

Sad

[sinful agate]

I hate airsoft because it's keeping me in poverty

[slate leaf]

Same

[grizzled hill]

Looking at the price I actually think this is doable within my price range the only exception is the mags but thanks for pointing this out

I may actually get this one rather than a AEG

[river bison]

what lights do everyone run on their airsoft

[smoky thunder]

Inb4 aliexpress surefire replicas

[river bison]

ngl those surefire replicas work

[smoky thunder]

Lord knows if I had a few spare dollars I'd be guilty

[river bison]

i bought one and it was at 1400 lumens

only 50 bucks too

[smoky thunder]

Yoooo not bad

Especially if it's just for airsoft

[river bison]

i bought like 2

another one is on the way

its like a knock off surefire vampire

[smoky thunder]

From ali?

[river bison]

ebay actually

[smoky thunder]

Oh shit, bet

[onyx stream]

there worth it but when the aeg next to you has 10x your ammo capacity...

[river bison]

aand deleted before someone buys em alll

[smoky thunder]

FUCK

[scarlet condor]

like I don't already have 3 AEGs

[smoky thunder]

My dumbass didn't copy the link

I opened the tab and closed it on accident lol

[river bison]

there

[smoky thunder]

Blessed, thank you

[scarlet condor]

if push comes to shove I can hop out, put my gun in my truck and grab an AEG

[smoky thunder]

You're a real one

[river bison]

so funny enough this one actually works with real guns and it holds up

[scarlet condor]

sure wish I could find an Elcan replica

[river bison]

only downside is it might not be as waterproof as an original surefire

[scarlet condor]

I love the way they look but that doesn't justify buying a real one for airsoft

[onyx stream]

when ya wanna buy a real eotech but see the price and realize your broke

[river bison]

I got the pressure pad too

the light im using on this one is different from the surefire its kinda smaller

[smoky thunder]

Still looks solid tho

Black and FDE setup too 🔥

[river bison]

i run real nvg's in airsoft games

i preferrably need a good ir light

This is what I’m running right now it’s just an VFC Avalon MK18

It’s kinda basic but oh well and i forgot where I got this eotech bu it actually works during day time unlike most replicas

[slate leaf]

oh damn i didnt even know this place existed

i own like 5 and half airsoft guns atm

we dont talk about my mp5.... DSG on a 11.1v with massive mags

and egb

shit literally, without exaggeration blew up

shell snapped, gears sheared. thank fuck it didnt kill my gate titan tho

[crystal rover]

could get one with like a extra mag or 2 for same price

deff aint you normal scar tho

[grizzled hill]

thats cursed

m4 stock on the scar hurts my soul

[sinful agate]

TFW no scar buttstock 😔

[crystal rover]

i bet you could replace it

it is wetech

[grizzled hill]

the gas scar im looking at is on sale for 370

so ill stick to that

[crystal rover]

found one thats 300

[grizzled hill]

bro only shops on low profile sites

how tf do you know if they are reliable or not

[crystal rover]

becuase i have had friends that have spend about 5k on the website

one dude spend like 700 recently

[grizzled hill]

your friends are test subjects

[crystal rover]

basically

only issue was a p80 sent back and the charged more for it

[summer pagoda]

It just sounds more terrifying to go up against than an AEG

Plus teaches not to throw mags around lol

[next marlin]

what suppressor you use?

[river bison]

It’s a surefire replica

[crystal rover]

Looks like one of them acetech tracers

[next marlin]

ok thanks

[river bison]

Funny enough you can put an ace tech inside this

But no it’s a surefire socom replica

[crystal rover]

Lol

[austere girder]

i think you should worry about your living space more

[crystal rover]

i dont trust that

what is it

[slate leaf]

It’s an mp4

Video

Don’t think you can bug mp4 files anyway

[sinful agate]

Idk why it's uploading as mp4

Or not uploading the videos correctly

Ok that one worked...

Gbbr gang where you at

[scarlet condor]

Maybe here some time, my dad agreed to let me get one of those uber expensive GBBRs, I just have to wait a while

[crystal rover]

get a vfc mk18 block 1 buy emg

or get a vfc

[scarlet condor]

i'm looking for an M4A1 SOPMOD

[copper beacon]

If I were to get an airsoft gun it would be this

[grizzled hill]

Why

Those stocks are cancer

[copper beacon]

Because its the only airsoft M70

They don't make full stock

[grizzled hill]

Damn

I’m kinda a simp for nato stuff

The only Ak that I’ve held that I liked was the AK12

I like mutants and scars

[sinful agate]

Those stocks are NOT cancer, they fold wayyyy better than side folding stock

[grizzled hill]

I hate how they feel on the shoulder

[tulip sand]

Wrong, I have one. There terrible

The stock feels like crap and it fold in a way that’s uncomfortable

[grizzled hill]

The folding is annoying and it’s so fucking uncomfortable

[grizzled hill]

Literally is so uncomfortable I hate using my AK

[sinful agate]

Get buttstock pads

[grizzled hill]

Well I’m not a AK guy anyway so I’ll just stick to my mutant

[tulip sand]

I’d like too but it’s not cheap to buy good airsoft ak’s

And I’m broke

[grizzled hill]

Same here

Still buying guns if they are around $400 even though I never use them

[sinful agate]

Cyma makes some good ass ak for like $200

[grizzled hill]

I have a pretty good one for like $150

Only drawback is that it has a FAL stock and it’s awful

I’d replace it but it doesn’t use the normal stock platform

[grizzled hill]

So I’d have to jimmy rig it

[tulip sand]

I had a 6mm fal and it was shit

Mag broke almost instantly

And after 3 months the dust cover got stuck

[grizzled hill]

I hear most don’t last but I still really want one

Fals are so hot

[tulip sand]

They’re ok

I like nam guns

[grizzled hill]

Fals are the ugliest drippy guns ever

[tulip sand]

M60 and m4

1911 to

[grizzled hill]

Im a fan of unique guns only

Scars mutants p90 mp7

[tulip sand]

Though only real guns I have are a 22 semi I keep for concealed carry and a sig 9 for ranges

[sinful agate]

Ur missing an XM in that collection

[tulip sand]

Eh, would you count the pkp as unique?

[sinful agate]

Pkp is def unique. Have you seen the size of that bitch?

[tulip sand]

I also like m14’s for hunting

[grizzled hill]

I actively refuse to use the m4 in airsoft

To basic for me

[tulip sand]

Everyone has one

[sinful agate]

I have one that I've used like twice

[tulip sand]

Which is why I have an ak

[sinful agate]

Ak just stands out

[grizzled hill]

I don’t understand why so many people hate on me because I use a mutant tbh

[tulip sand]

Tbf I dislike modern weapons

Anything after 2005 I dislike

[sinful agate]

I like modern weapons but m4 ain't all that modern no more

[grizzled hill]

I don’t really like anything old

[sinful agate]

Modern M4 would be like hk416 or sig mcx

[grizzled hill]

I like modern stuff

[grizzled hill]

Mcx turns me on

[sinful agate]

Mcx makes your broke

[grizzled hill]

I should really get one for airsoft

But money

[tulip sand]

Eh, stuff like hk and MCX and all that look so samy to me

A nice kar98k however

[grizzled hill]

Insert walter white falling

[sinful agate]

I'll get to use a real kar98k with blanks for milsim event in October

[tulip sand]

Shoot real rounds

[sinful agate]

Blank rounds yes

[tulip sand]

Scare the shit out of the new comers

[sinful agate]

Not live rounds

[tulip sand]

Naw

[sinful agate]

8mm Mauser ain't cheap tho

[tulip sand]

True, ammo has gone up

Even here

[sinful agate]

1k round of 9mm here is 78¢ a round

California btw...

.22 lr is a lot cheaper tho

[tulip sand]

California is a place common decency goes to die

Along with your money

[copper beacon]

10 dollar a gallon

[tulip sand]

I stay to Carolina if I can help it

Also you don’t get people all antsy about shooting in n your backyard

[grizzled hill]

That’s illegal

[tulip sand]

Illegal in Carolina is whether or not your sheriff likes you

Sides I live in bumb fuck nowhere

[grizzled hill]

You need to live outside of noise ordinance to shoot on your own property

So country

Or you need a certain size of your land plot

[tulip sand]

How about 300 acres of shit farm land

[grizzled hill]

3 or 5 acres iirc

[tulip sand]

Yeah I think I’m fine

Me and my ol army buddy blew up a totaled truck of his once

Sheriff didnt like that though

[grizzled hill]

Still shouldn’t shoot if there is noise ordinance

[copper beacon]

Tannerite

[tulip sand]

Tannerite? What’s that

[grizzled hill]

Impact fused explosives

Shoot it and it pops

[copper beacon]

I found a jar of it in the woods

[tulip sand]

Shit that’s a lucky find

I’m not one for ordnance but I appreciate a good explosion

[copper beacon]

I don't have it anymore, I made it pop when I went to my uncles farmland to shoot

[tulip sand]

Well it’s now doing anything on your shelf

Still I’d might of bought it off ya

[copper beacon]

I don't think you can sell mixed tannerite

[tulip sand]

Not on normal channels but fairs fair

[grizzled hill]

Legal dealers can sell tanerite it’s not illegal in most places in the US

[tulip sand]

Really

[grizzled hill]

Yes

[tulip sand]

Might find myself some then

[copper beacon]

Gunshops and sporting goods stores

[tulip sand]

Maybe I’ll pick some up at the bass pro shop

See if they got any

[copper beacon]

Yea even if I still had the jar I couldn't have sold it to you

I mean if we met in person I would have

It's the mailing that stops me

[tulip sand]

Heh

[sinful agate]

ATF has joined the chat

[tulip sand]

“Hey Steve, I think someone is trying to mail a bomb” “well shit we don’t do our job normally so fuck it”

A conversation in a us postal office

[sinful agate]

Trusting feds with my mail? No thanks

[tulip sand]

Shit I trust dsl more than them

[copper beacon]

I had a friend try to send me two AK rifles, both times they were confiscated because the dumbass tried to send them to my house instead of the FFL I told him to send to

[sinful agate]

Friends needs an iq test

[tulip sand]

If I remember correctly demo ranch got arrested for mailing himself some thc

[sinful agate]

I thought he was arrested for not paying taxe stamp for his guns

[tulip sand]

One or the other

Guy painted a target the size of my ass on em with what he did

[sinful agate]

ATF works for the IRS so....

[tulip sand]

Fuck em both

Feds are dicks

[sinful agate]

Yup, can't have this or that even tho I'm paying taxes

[tulip sand]

Uncle got raided once and they broke the hinges on his door, didn’t even pay for the door after they left

[sinful agate]

Fuck taxes, it's not like I'm gonna get to use the things I pay taxes for till I'm like 70 anyways

[tulip sand]

Tax is theft as it goes

But hey I’d rather not be in prison so I just do what I can

[sinful agate]

Pay the minimum and not a penny more

[tulip sand]

Yup

[copper beacon]

Tax fraud

[tulip sand]

I would

But aunties still in prison for that

[sinful agate]

Rip :(

I just want to live on a nice land and live in peace with my pets and garden and guns, that too much to ask?

[tulip sand]

Unless you got enough money and fame that your untouchable

Pretty much

Could move to some shithole with no laws

But then you don’t got modern luxury

[sinful agate]

I guess, but all I really need is a stable internet

It's not like youd need to go to a mall when u can just have stuff delivered

[tulip sand]

I suppose

Still I’d rather not have to make my own liquor

Moonshining’s more work than it’s worth

[sinful agate]

Never a fan of alcohol, but I know how to cultivate weed tho so I'd be good

[tulip sand]

Eh, weed doesn’t have an effect on me. Buddy gave me some edible shit but other than a bad taste and a light head it was not something to enjoy

Course it makes him high as a kite

[sinful agate]

First times usually you don't feel it. My first time was the same, hit a fat bong, felt normal

[tulip sand]

Ain’t that strange though, you’d think I’d work like normal first time or not

[tulip sand]

Actually if you like the taste of weed I might know a beer you’d like

Or is it just liquor in general

[sinful agate]

Just liquor in general, I mostly just mix vodka with oj and sprite

[tulip sand]

Never heard of oj in vodka

[sinful agate]

Helps with the aftertaste

[tulip sand]

Sounds interesting

Might try it

Though Tennessee honey is my vice

[river bison]

What’s wrong with my living space, I’m also in a middle of a move

[austere girder]

spend time cleaning is what i meant

[river bison]

Like I said middle of a move

[devout ridge]

Bro that shit gonna be air hard

[scarlet condor]

I'm gonna buy an entry-level GBBR and upgrade it as time goes on so I don't have to dump $600 all at once, rather dump $600 over the course of a few months

full travel kits, heavy buffer, USGI furniture, yknow

[scarlet condor]

nah nvm fuck it I'm buying a bougie GBBR

[oak shard]

There you go

[scarlet condor]

still will buy USGI furniture lel

[river bison]

Lol I picked up a MP7 GBB yesterday

And also a JPC 2.0 from another guy for 150

[smoky thunder]

Better idea

[scarlet condor]

I thought so

[smoky thunder]

You'll save a lot more money than you will on the project gun

I bought a Well GBBR AK for about $250

[scarlet condor]

Oh lord

[smoky thunder]

Shit's made of pot metal

[scarlet condor]

WELL is the fucking worst

[smoky thunder]

Oh I know

[scarlet condor]

Even worse than Matrix

[smoky thunder]

I only got it for a cosplay

[scarlet condor]

At least Matrix tries

[smoky thunder]

But still wanted GBB

It was either this or a cyma

[scarlet condor]

I think I should be safe with a $400 GBBR

[smoky thunder]

Lowkey wish I went with the aeg because it fits AK furniture way better

[smoky thunder]

Safer, for sure

[scarlet condor]

I've heard the hop-up on it isn't that great, but hop-up units are kinda cheap

If I wanted to I could buy one for $65 and dome people from 225 meters away

[smoky thunder]

Not bad for $65 lmao

But yeah don't buy a cheap GBBR

[scarlet condor]

this mf

[smoky thunder]

You'd be upgrading every part of the internals and external

[scarlet condor]

is $65 dollars

[smoky thunder]

Basically building a gun from scratch would be better

[scarlet condor]

I've heard that KWA GBBRs are pretty snappy, I bet it'd be better if I put a real buffer in it

since the real buffer has a slightly stronger spring iirc

[smoky thunder]

Honestly no clue but I'm sure anything's better than Well

I'm not much of an actual airsofter tbh

[zinc bramble]

There's a new one btw

[scarlet condor]

lord almighty

[zinc bramble]

I got it, it's pretty good

[scarlet condor]

how much is this one?

[zinc bramble]

80 I think

[scarlet condor]

Time to turn an M4 into a sniper LOL

[zinc bramble]

With .25s I get like 10 inch groupings at 100 yards

It could be more or less than 100 yards, but decently tight for .25s

Haven't tried with heavier BB's yet

[sinful agate]

Meters? 90% of airsoft gun can't even hit 100 ft (30.5meter)

[scarlet condor]

that was a joke, noboru

[zinc bramble]

No way

My stock ares was accurate enough to hit at 100m

Maybe not on 1st shot, but within like 5

[scarlet condor]

I just need to learn how to replace the hop up on a KWA so I can shoot accurately and use it in a game

[sinful agate]

Well makes clones of WE (already cheap gbbr manufacture that also uses pot metal for their guns)

[scarlet condor]

Well doesn't use pot metal, they use weed metal

[sinful agate]

328 ft ~= 100meter. Please send me your ares shooting 100meters and I'll change my mind regarding airsoft

[zinc bramble]

Bro fully though

My ares now isn't the same gun

Easily does 100m

But out of the box it could shoot that far with ok consistency

[sinful agate]

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/96291-longest-airsoft-target-shot

Please apply for the world record then

[zinc bramble]

81 m

Bruh

No way

[sinful agate]

Please be my guest to shatter the world record with 100m

[zinc bramble]

I feel like this is actually not that hard to break

I thought longest shot was 500m though

Or 500 feet

Not m

It just wasn't recorded by Guiness

[sinful agate]

Dude, do you even know how far 100 meter is?

Like relative to real life size

Also doesn't tarkov have sniper born in heaven quest? That quest requires at least 100 meter out...

[smoky thunder]

Damn, wasn't aware WE was that bad, seems a lot of the GBBR community suggest them

[sinful agate]

A football field is is 110m long, I'd like to see you try and shoot your airsoft gun the length of an entire football field

[sinful agate]

WE isn't that bad

[smoky thunder]

I only ever see WE or GHK

[sinful agate]

Stock is bad, because potmetal internals

[smoky thunder]

Aaaaaah

I see now

[sinful agate]

But once you replace the hammer, sear, and springs for the trigger group then you get a ghk equivalent

[smoky thunder]

Externals good or pot metal too?

[sinful agate]

Receiver is also potmetal unfortunately

[zinc bramble]

I do

[sinful agate]

Only ghk make steel reciever

For gbbr

[zinc bramble]

I remember it was 500 feet from elevation

Nobody where do u live?

[sinful agate]

Please bro, you're trolling

[zinc bramble]

No I'm deadass

It wasn't a Guiness record

[sinful agate]

Vids or it didn't happen

Also I'm pretty sure you're adding extra zeros to these numbers

I can bring techs into this discussion and discuss how wrong those numbers are

[zinc bramble]

I literally shoot real guns

[sinful agate]

Unless you're referring to a gas gun

[zinc bramble]

I know how far 100m is

Im telling u rn 300 feet is possible

[sinful agate]

Please show me proof of your airsoft hitting 100m

[zinc bramble]

I'm going airsofting tmrw

I can try my best to record out to that far

[sinful agate]

Which field?

How big is the field?

[zinc bramble]

It's an outdoor field

It's on like a few square kilometers of land

Also I tech airsoft too

Do you live in Japan where the fps limit is lower?

Or somewhere like that?

[sinful agate]

Usual max jule is 1.55j

So around 400fps using .20g

[sinful agate]

Also the name of the field?

I just want to look at the size

Doing some auditing since you wanna double down

[zinc bramble]

Combat pursuit

All the way out to the streets on either side

We have a massive field

[sinful agate]

And what airsoft are you using with what upgrades and running which weight bbs and shooting how many fps?

[zinc bramble]

400 fps

.25s

Was our the box

I use .32s now

Il get a video

And il show u the distance across the place Im shooting via Google maps

[sinful agate]

Ppl need to stop setting velocity rules with fps and they need to start using Jules at the main unit of measure

Also .32 with 400fps is = 2.38j
Compare to 400fps with .20g = 1.49j

[zinc bramble]

Yeah

Joules is better

Over voluming can be kinda dangerous

[sinful agate]

Despite the Chrono showing the same result (ie. 400fps), jule measurements are different. Even shooting at the same speed, the force of bb is carrying double than what it would with .20

Fps is how u allow ppl to jule creep and shoot hot. Fields needs to remove that otherwise you'll see people running .40g with 400fps

Which is 565 fps with .20

[zinc bramble]

I just know I have been booked for hitting rentals in the staging area from one of the fields

Ref told me it was more than 100m

So I didn't get in trouble

[sinful agate]

40k fan I see ...

[grizzled hill]

Why the standard grip and not a rail?

[zinc bramble]

Mp7a1

[sinful agate]

I think KWA makes 2 different gbb mp7. One is 1:1 size and the other is 90% size. And I believe the he has the 1:1 scale because the 90% has railed handguard

[grizzled hill]

Well I know why but the question was mostly why chose that over the rail

[sinful agate]

Wait, I got that wrong. KWA has the 90% size and VFC has the 1:1 scale

[sinful agate]

Do those exist for gbbr?

Mp7 with railed handguard thats a gbbr?

[grizzled hill]

I literally have one

So yes