airsoft

[junior sedge]

Digital camo works super well

[hexed fern]

because you could get the specific one that works best in your area instead of getting standard multicam like a chump

[gleaming salmon]

depends where you live, multicam doesn’t work everywhere

[hexed fern]

and yet everyone buys it everywhere

[gleaming salmon]

ye

[hexed fern]

which is why the chart exists

[gleaming salmon]

i play in a temperate rainforest area, there is no tan

[slate leaf]

real gear is far more based

[sinful agate]

SS Leto in California (spring)

[junior sedge]

Dog

[sinful agate]

Yeah, and dog

[grizzled hill]

Looks more like a cat to me

[junior sedge]

Dawgeh

[tough oriole]

Book of fudd chapter 7:13
“The best camouflage pattern is sit still and be quiet”

[hexed fern]

a good doggo

[gleaming salmon]

wearing green and standing still in a bush works as well

[grizzled hill]

Get one of those bush suites I forgot how to spell

And use a suppressed Gas rifle and surprise people but don’t let them know your position

Or use airsoft claymores

Those are fun

[gleaming salmon]

tbh if you want a silent rifle you either get a spring sniper rifle or an AEG shimmed to be extremely quiet

GBBRs are loud

[grizzled hill]

Suppressed

Or use hpa

With a suppressor on it

I’ve heard those work

Never seen myself tho

[tender dock]

anyone online willing to help a noob

[hexed fern]

just use a duffel bag of grenades

[oak bane]

does this map exists for Europe?

[hexed fern]

probably? I'm from the US though so I don't have it

[gleaming salmon]

true HPA is very quiet

[slate leaf]

Just take a photo of the area around you and compare camos

[gleaming salmon]

build a long ass foam filled suppressor and you’re golden

[gleaming salmon]

sup

[hexed fern]

orrrr just have a duffel bag of grenades and claymores and booby trap the entire arena via maximum stealth

[oak bane]

can't find any

[tender dock]

whats up dude

[tender dock]

you up for helping me

[grizzled hill]

Minimum cost $3000

[gleaming salmon]

depends

just ask the question @tender dock

[tender dock]

depends on what

[gleaming salmon]

jesus christ nevermind

[tender dock]

ehh ok...

[gleaming salmon]

i was gonna say it depends on how stupid the question is but i see we didn’t get that far

[gleaming salmon]

is your question tarkov related or airsoft related

[grizzled hill]

People are allergic to asking without explicit permission from everyone for some reason

[tough oriole]

How?

Tons of them pop up

Search camo pattern map eu

[oak bane]

it's only the regular army patterns

I want more specific stuff

like this US map

[tough oriole]

Ah

[gleaming salmon]

its airsoft. just wear what makes you happy tbh

[oak bane]

a good camo can make the difference

[gleaming salmon]

in how cool you look, yeah

and coolness is subjective

[oak bane]

no

in being spotted or not

[gleaming salmon]

its airsoft

it doesnt really matter lmao

half the time i'm playing i'm making enough noise shooting shit and screaming for teammates to move up with me anyways

[oak bane]

I play in forest with usually a low amount of people (under 10)

I use digi flora and it makes me very hard to spot

[grizzled hill]

Just use red phosphorus smoke grenades

Makes infrared useless

[junior sedge]

Sex

[fervent jetty]

niceee

[junior sedge]

Hell yeah

[limber flame]

oooooooooooh

big sex

[scarlet condor]

doom 1 reload

[scarlet condor]

digi flora gang

[gleaming salmon]

is this the VFC M18 / M17?

[scarlet condor]

no, it's the SIGAir M17

[gleaming salmon]

yea thats the same thing

SIG air gave the licensing rights, VFC produced it

how do you like it?

tempted to get one myself

[lyric shuttle]

the m17's are good, had one myself

like it alot

[scarlet condor]

Why would an airsoft gun company give the licensing rights to another airsoft gun company

[gleaming salmon]

sigair does not make actual airsoft guns

all of its products are BB rifles

the airsoft guns themselves are all made by VFC

they made the MCX as well

it’s marketed under both brands

[scarlet condor]

nah bro i think you're wrong

[gleaming salmon]

nope

the M17, M18 and MCX are all produced by VFC

[scarlet condor]

that's the model from when the license was still going on

[gleaming salmon]

licensing rights are given to them by SIG Air

[gleaming salmon]

this article is from 2019, and the MCX and M17/M18 were released in 2020 and 2021 respectively

when the license was ongoing, they produced a legacy MCX with Cybergun

which was from 2017

[scarlet condor]

i see

[gleaming salmon]

its alright, VFC is a great company

i was confused on the branding too, but VFC is the original manufacturer and both companies sell the same guns

[scarlet condor]

yeah I know

tired of people saying VFC only makes good replicas, not good airsoft guns

anyways

patiently waiting for a proforce MCX-SPEAR

[gleaming salmon]

yeah

it’ll be a while, probably a year or two

their current project is a gbbr FAL and Colt M733

[scarlet condor]

that sounds fun

[gleaming salmon]

i’d love to get my hands on both

do a rhodesian FAL and a delta CAR-15 build

[scarlet condor]

i just want the FAL

really set me apart from the others when i go to a field

yeah i'm never getting one ever

[gleaming salmon]

yeah they’re expensive, i’d rather get a TM MWS for the price

[sinful agate]

my friend got a TM MSW for only $500 bucks brand new

[gleaming salmon]

you can find good deals here and there

you can get them extremely cheap in asia, but i'm pretty skeptical about customs

[sinful agate]

yeah, he got it imported from hong kong

[gleaming salmon]

yep

im looking at the MWS rn in hong kong, only 500$

if i were confident that customs wont nuke it i'd get it

i got my VFC MP7 for like 350$ from there

[oak bane]

😎

[rugged karma]

holy fuck

fal?

time to sell my shit1a1

kek

nah honsetly gbb would be cool but i think itll be fucky

ill see how it turn out

may get one once i have the money

[gleaming salmon]

it’ll feel solid for sure but with the way VFC is expect some teething problems on launch

watch some preliminary reviews first before getting it

[rugged karma]

yeah thats the plan

i dont want to have a GBBR that'll break within a few games

and I don't have the skills to fix it

though I've taken my Ares apart without complaint so

I'm probably already more patient than half the techs out there xD

[gleaming salmon]

lmfaoo nice

i have a VFC MP7 gbb and that’s done me well so far, but you’re not really supposed to completely take it apart without a tech because it’s a very complicated process

field stripping is easy though

my next GBB will most likely be a MWS

the cadillac of M4 GBBs

[slate leaf]

airsoft not cool

[gleaming salmon]

hating on other peoples hobbies and not minding ur own business? virgin activity

[junior sedge]

omg just buy real guns bro stop playing airsoft

[gleaming salmon]

noooo!!! real steel is the only way!!

you can’t enjoy both!!

[junior sedge]

Airsoft let's you shoot people for fun??? Just do target shooting wtf??

[gleaming salmon]

that was the general attitude until their boy crushes and role models like lucas botkin mentioned that airsoft might be a valuable training aid, and that those who seriously practice with their airsoft rifles on a regular basis might have an advantage over the flat range fudds who shoot beer bottles and soda cans over the weekend

here it’s more common with the older ages, i’d say 18-30

the kids are kinda just cannon fodder who run and flank really fast

[gleaming salmon]

sure

lmfao hell yeah

[sinful agate]

Re-wiring + adding mosfet

[junior sedge]

:(

[junior sedge]

Scav ak no-8

Yeah

:)

[gleaming salmon]

lmfao

[hexed fern]

mo' maids mo' better

[frank sphinx]

Anyone know any good short stroke kits for a G18C?

[robust galleon]

Yeah Cow Cow

[gleaming salmon]

yep ^

you can also make your own

[robust galleon]

Lego tires

[gleaming salmon]

with a nylon spacer or something rubber

yeah

might not lock back on empty though so you have to fine tune the width

to make sure it does

[robust galleon]

if you're short stroking its for cycle time, you most likely wouldn't care if it didn't lock back tbh

but I wouldn't shortstroke a G18C

[gleaming salmon]

true

imo i don’t see the point in the G18C in airsoft

[robust galleon]

I personally wouldnt even own one

since auto is banned

[frank sphinx]

I don’t really need the slide lock tbh

Not at my fields lol

[gleaming salmon]

ah okay

[robust galleon]

im saying for most cqb fields

[gleaming salmon]

well yeah, you can either buy a short stroke kit or just make a spacer for your spring

easy enough

[frank sphinx]

I’m an outdoor boi unfortunately

[robust galleon]

Ah

[hexed fern]

but is running nothing but grenades also banned

or does that just fall under "don't be a dick, dude"

[gleaming salmon]

you can run whatever you want

i want to buy a 40mm eventually

question is which one

i could get a GP-25 or -30 and do the plank build

and use it as a standalone weapon

or get the M320

either way it’ll be expensive to run, and i’ll have to reconfigure my belt setup to hold around 6 rounds

[hexed fern]

cool so I can run a 40mm for CQB with fountains

[gleaming salmon]

yep

just use common courtesy

don’t aim for the face, it’s not out of the rules but it’s kinda rude

[void spindle]

"OH YEAH DUDE, DON'T BUY CHEAPO PLASTIC HELMETS, BUY THE $800 KEVLAR FAST HELMET DUDE, WHAT ARE YOU, POOOOR? LUL THEN DONT PLAY AIRSEWFT XDDDD"

[slate leaf]

Airsoft players when they find out about legitimate bump helmets

💀 💀

Also, imo plastic helmets are fucking uncomfortable .

[limber flame]

still fucking expensive
goofy

[limber flame]

legit bump helmets are plastic

[junior sedge]

fucking love this image

[dapper plover]

plz let me know where i can find a genuine ops core for 800$

[grizzled hill]

you can get a non ballistic team wendy for $800

[gleaming salmon]

or you can get an FMA fast MT bump for 100$ and spend the other 700$ on airsoft shit you actually need, not a ballistic helmet lmfao

700$ can buy and set up an M4 with a light, sight and mags

[slate leaf]

Just stich kevlar onto an ops core, dude said kevlar 💀 💀

I rather run a hat then a cheapo helmet, which is what I do

Too bad people wanna dress like goons with cheap shit instead of buying cheap,genuine infantry shit

[gleaming salmon]

after hitting my head on the top of a hole in the wall and bleeding profusely, i bought a helmet the day after

cap is nice tho, i wore one for like a year

[slate leaf]

Imagine having shit in your head!!

Brainless gang

I can get an osprey mk4 for like 300pln (somewhere around 125 usd) but it probably won't work with my light USEC kit

Might just save up for a nice chest rig

[gleaming salmon]

for a usec kit you’d probably either want a ballcap or an FMA fast mt

[slate leaf]

Fake helmets 🤢

Yeah I'm ordering a usec cap and some labs cards as soon as the international orders open back up

[gleaming salmon]

this is a game, so fake is fine

[slate leaf]

I've worn real and fake ops core,real just feels better

Even ops core bumps

[gleaming salmon]

the FMA ones are really damn good

the foam is excellent and the shell isn’t paper thin like on all the other shit ones you find

i run an MTEK though

[slate leaf]

(Actual ops core from when the army was doing some advertising in my town and an sf guy let me wear it)
Bump from a guy on a field pretty far from me

My area in Poland has little non-rentals

Which is.. pretty disappointing

[gleaming salmon]

little non rentals as in very little people who do not rent?

[slate leaf]

Yeah

[gleaming salmon]

ah that’s a shame

here in canada we get a good variety of low and high budget players, makes for a nice variety of kit and something interesting to look at and talk about

[slate leaf]

Surprised tbh,my town is fairly big and I live like an hour from 2 big coastal towns

[gleaming salmon]

or laugh at, if that’s your thing

[slate leaf]

Cm041 gaming,my man

[gleaming salmon]

almost all of my guns are VFCs

[slate leaf]

I despise full black operator kits and will mock them every time I can

[gleaming salmon]

yeah

this one kid at my field wore all black with a fucking gas mask and a winter jacket lmfao

kid must’ve been cooking by the end of the day

[slate leaf]

I prefer this 8 year old softshell and old combat pants or jeans

[slate leaf]

Lmaoo

I've got a bunch of gas masks (essentially every type) and the best would probably be my panoramic mp5

I got one with sealing issues on purpose

[gleaming salmon]

i just think wearing a gas mask to an airsoft field would be absolute hell

so much fogging

[slate leaf]

Yeah

[gleaming salmon]

and your face is pretty much in its own atmosphere

[slate leaf]

You literally have to purposefully get a messed up one to not become blind

[gleaming salmon]

plus not all lenses on the gas masks are rated to stop a BB

so if you fuck around you might just go blind

[slate leaf]

I gotta get normal frames for my ESS crossbows tbh

Suppressor doesn't really fit me

[gleaming salmon]

i run regular shooting glasses but the lens doesn’t extend down to my cheek all the way

so if i were to get shot in a really bad spot, the BB might bounce up and into my eye

gotta get a better set

[slate leaf]

Yeah,I might get a gasket kit

Idk tbh

Im used to wearing balaclavas but people that think constantly wearing a fake gas mask is cool are something else

Like 90% of those guys are probably running some shitty 20 dollar gas mask

[gleaming salmon]

i just wear a mouth / nose covering like a shemagh

[slate leaf]

Then the 10% using good shit with swapped lenses

[gleaming salmon]

ye

[slate leaf]

Yeah, I wear a balaclava

[gleaming salmon]

but wearing gas masks fucking sucks

idk why you’d subject yourself to that kind of torture voluntarily

[slate leaf]

Gonna get myself earmor m32s for my kit at some point

[gleaming salmon]

i used to work trades where you’d spend basically the entire day in a full face respirator

sucked

[gleaming salmon]

they’re alright, they have some comms compatibility issues so only use the earmor PTT

people say they’re shit but i’ve had a pair for a year now and they work great

looking to upgrade to comtac 3s though

[slate leaf]

Yeah,even with their mid quality at least I won't fuck my hearing at 15

[gleaming salmon]

yeah

[slate leaf]

I don't mind accidentally taking my ear pro off when a guy was shooting .357 and straight after 12 gauge

(Magnum buck meta)

[gleaming salmon]

what kind of airsoft games are you going to lmfao

[slate leaf]

Nah that wasn't airsoft

Although I would say shooting with an AEG for a while hurts more then one supersonic shot

[gleaming salmon]

nah they’re pretty easy to listen to

some gas guns are pretty loud, but no gun is able to put your hearing in jeopardy

[slate leaf]

Yeah

[gleaming salmon]

just grenades and other pyro

[slate leaf]

I just find them more annoying

[gleaming salmon]

ye most kids guns are cheap af and unmodified so their shimming sucks and it sounds like a fucking cat screeching when it’s fired

mine is shimmed to be immaculately quiet

[slate leaf]

With an actual shot you only get like 30 seconds of ringing and like 5 of sight pain

[slate leaf]

Yeah,my cm 041 blue edition is probably not as loud as other's shit

[gleaming salmon]

a grenade went off in my fucking hand once, that was before i wore ear pro so that was really nice

my hand was tingling and my ears were ringing the rest of the day

[slate leaf]

Nice!

I love having it stop only for me to go try to sleep and get slight ear pain

[gleaming salmon]

eh

[slate leaf]

It's weird tbh

[gleaming salmon]

airsoft is pretty hearing safe unless you’re at those milsim events

[slate leaf]

Yeah

I wanna try to get to one someday

[gleaming salmon]

i only wear earpro for comms capability, i don’t need other people hearing what disgusting things me and my friends joke about

[slate leaf]

Most aren't in Poland though 💀

[slate leaf]

Based

I swear I've heard a story of a guy making his ear pro into normal headphones

[gleaming salmon]

ye

[slate leaf]

I kinda wanna do that someday

[gleaming salmon]

MPOW bluetooth adaptor

plugs into your headset via a mic jack

and you can stream music to your headset

[slate leaf]

Da ear pro gaming headset 🥶

[gleaming salmon]

adds one more wire to sort though, and you shouldn’t really be using your phone during a game anyways

good way to get it damaged

[slate leaf]

Yeah I barely bring my phone to games

[gleaming salmon]

with a comms setup you have enough wires to route anyways, gets super annoying

[slate leaf]

Imma attempt to sleep,it's fucking 4 am

😔

Eh 5hrs of sleep is enough

[slate leaf]

Crye 🥶

[desert current]

Mix of eagle an crye

[gleaming salmon]

crye or die

[slate leaf]

Perhaps, I was gonna get an ars arma mayflower d3crx clone but.. you know..

ars arma being in a certain place..

[gleaming salmon]

ye

don’t buy russian anymore

fuck them

[slate leaf]

Although greyshop is definitely getting shit set up,I asked the ceo

So I'll get my tarkov order soon

[gleaming salmon]

ew

[slate leaf]

I need this cap!!

Not like 40 euros will do shit

[gleaming salmon]

every bit adds up

let those fuckers go hungry

i’d rather support a russian individual through their online store than a russian retailer

but even that is pushing it

overall i just don’t buy russian, not anymore

[desert current]

Russians 😑

[gleaming salmon]

exactly

fuckem

support western economies, buy american shit

russian stuff is just ripoff american gear anyways

[slate leaf]

American shipping 💀 💀

Also Tarkov merch is literally only sold by bsg

I personally don't give a fuck if a 10 euro podhelmnik funded by me gets given to some starving russian grunt

Although I'm probably funding nothing

💀

[gleaming salmon]

nothing much to fund

[ornate shadow]

or in indoor events at california...there's people who bring like 4 grenades every game for some reason out here

[gleaming salmon]

yeah

generally youll see a few players using grenades in my games

but theyre not used too often, as its kinda situational

[ornate shadow]

theres people at california events who throw a grenade for one person in a room

[gleaming salmon]

fuck it

[grizzled hill]

[gleaming salmon]

bring a tennis racket to the field and just start swatting em back

[calm mirage]

cross your fingers and say that the nades don't count

[grizzled hill]

Bring a standard issue trophy system

Those liberals can’t throw nades at you now

[gleaming salmon]

a trophy system would most likely kill you with the projectiles lmfao

that shit is dangerous

[junior sedge]

Time to continue buying from Russia

[gleaming salmon]

it’s up to you

[junior sedge]

Yuh

[gleaming salmon]

idk if russia’s mail exports are even allowed anymore

i’m pretty sure customs would just nuke that shit

[junior sedge]

There's workarounds it seems, thankfully

Most of the Russian stuff I've bought was already located in the UK but still needing some stuff from the east

[gleaming salmon]

yeah i need a granit maket plate

[junior sedge]

Where are you based? @gleaming salmon

[gleaming salmon]

very based.

nah jokes i’m in north america

[junior sedge]

Ah NA, nvm

Well tbf it might still work

Check the northern pact Facebook

You'll find some there

Mostly based in the UK and Europe

[oak bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842755393296793611/970619737186906192/IMG_20220501_161418.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842755393296793611/970619756644286495/IMG_20220501_161636.jpg

[dapper plover]

AVS or a JPC?

[dapper plover]

i was buying some stickers and shipping costed me 60$ for like 10 stickers that costed in total like 30$. so yeah xd

anyone have experience with the GBLS-15 or GBLS-416? im looking to get the 416 and build it over to a SFOD clone one but unsure if i need a HAO Gissele rail or if i need to buy a genuine Gissele rail which is hard to get in EU. Also unsure about preformance

[limber flame]

jpc

[slate leaf]

Yeah,which is exactly why I only buy from Europe and Asia

• Russian gear companies aren't shit

[dapper plover]

Yeah well I'm a basement larper so. Crye or die

[oak bane]

Killa larpers are quite cringe ngl

[dapper plover]

It's fun to have a fov of like 10

[oak bane]

even in CQB it would be awfully bad

[dapper plover]

I doubt it be fun to use it at all

But some sacrifices you have to do for the larp I guess

[sinful agate]

Russian items are being shipped to other countries that haven't sanctioned them such as Saudi Arabia, then it gets shipped from there to US or wherever

[scarlet condor]

I want that AK74M so bad

[sinful agate]

You can get the E&L ones for pretty cheap

[frank sphinx]

mmm cz scorpion

[gleaming salmon]

do you absolutely have to have a GBLS?

you can do a 416 build with a TM MWS, a much better rifle in my opinion

[scarlet condor]

New drip

[frank sphinx]

ski mask

[desert current]

JPC 2.0 with the AVS slap

[desert current]

You will most likely need a genuine rail

[gleaming salmon]

nah a replica rail will work

but less drip

[dapper plover]

yeah i was looking a TWS aswell but a HAO kit alone is like 1500$

[gleaming salmon]

a GBLS is an electric blowback though

that on its own is a general red flag

[dapper plover]

ive used the TM next gen for the longest time

never had any issues with it tbh

[gleaming salmon]

i mean it’s up to you

personally i would prefer the MWS

[dapper plover]

avs or no drip :///

[dapper plover]

yeah i would like a GBBR too, the MWS seems like a good system

[gleaming salmon]

it’s the best GBB M4 you can get in terms of reliability, parts longevity and parts commonality

i don’t have one myself but i seriously want one

heard nothing but glowing reviews

[dapper plover]

the thing is i dont know how to tech for shit

[gleaming salmon]

teching a gas gun is a lot easier than an electric one

no gearbox to take apart and carefully shim or examine for issues

the problem will always be physically there

a broken lug, a ground down sear or a busted spring

[dapper plover]

yeah idk, i always find someone who can do it for me, id rather pay and get it well done then fuck it up myself

[gleaming salmon]

ye same

for electric guns i hire a tech

for gas i’ll do it myself

easy enough to diagnose and fix

[junior sedge]

Where drip

The greyshop balaclava and the teleshnik thingy

Tbh I like the teleshnik, I got the long sleeve

[scarlet condor]

it's telniashka

[raven python]

Any recommendations on a decent pistol to buy? budget of up to £250

[frank sphinx]

glock

[junior sedge]

Close enough

[scarlet condor]

No

It's not close enough

[scarlet condor]

SIG Proforce M17

About £170

[raven python]

Will check it out thanks

[junior sedge]

Yes

Yes it is

[scarlet condor]

It's not even close to telniashka

[junior sedge]

Close enough

[scarlet condor]

Whatever, I'm just gonna accept that you're incorrect and go on with my day

[junior sedge]

Good boy

Wear the teleshnik with pride

[scarlet condor]

Yeah, don't call me that

[junior sedge]

[slate leaf]

@inner cedar yo???

👍

[inner cedar]

yikes

[gleaming salmon]

yoooo

[slate leaf]

funniest discord member

[silk hound]

Grabbed the post id

[gleaming salmon]

that was some wacky airsoft gameplay

[slate leaf]

truly!

[cerulean flicker]

what are good airsoft websites to buy frim in uk?

[gleaming salmon]

depends on what you’re looking for

[slate leaf]

ukarms (totally serious)

[gleaming salmon]

but daves custom airsoft is great

i buy a lot of mounts and parts from them and i’m not even english

[slate leaf]

do an mp5

!!

[gleaming salmon]

no no no, 417 is the dank ness

[slate leaf]

417 based

[gleaming salmon]

don’t build the short 417 lmao those are so ugly

you can get an aftermarket long barrel though, or just thread on a 4” extension

[slate leaf]

You can always get an upgraded barrel

[gleaming salmon]

and then get a handguard to match

yea

a 4” extension is like 5$

here’s my inspiration for my build

starting with a blank G&G SBR308 receiver

45 degree controls with full auto

yeah fr

it’s an L129A1

lmfao

when i begin working on it i’ll send more

but so far i haven’t started

yeah

it’s an elongated V2 though, since it’s an SR-25 type rifle

so i’m not sure if i can fit a maxx hopup in there

[desert current]

Some dude on hop up selling 4 g28s rn for like 600 a pop

[scarlet condor]

display model headass

[desert current]

Let me look

[scarlet condor]

Ayo what happen

[desert current]

https://www.hopupairsoft.com/posts/26192842-811c-4615-ba22-08b38b4c6d50

@mental shell

[gleaming salmon]

beware

hopup is so fuckin slimy

good luck getting the handguards for those

[desert current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908988926344192020/970799555039862804/IMG_1952.jpg

[grizzled hill]

Do face reveal

[elder totem]

Do face reveal

[void spindle]

https://rtstactical.com/collections/ops-core-helmets/products/ops-core-fast-st-high-cut-military-ballistic-helmet

[void spindle]

sounds like you.

Airsoft community is full of complaining, crying "MIL-SIM" larpers who would get chewed up like cannon fodder in a real conflict.

Disgusting and degenerate.

[sinful agate]

Hence why they play airsoft... Kind of the point...

Could be said the same about people who needs plate carrier for range days with real gun. It's not like you'd need a full kit to fire a gun, but people like to play pretend without actually putting themselves on the line

[void spindle]

Nah, the point of airsoft is fun, but the community has become plagued by complaining man children who's egos go over the top of their hands criticising fellow player's gear as "not realistic enough" or "too poor".

Instead of just enjoying the game, the hobby.

[limber flame]

"OH MY GOD, YOU DONT USE LEVEL 4 PLATES AND A BALISTIC HELMET FOR AIRSOFT"

i fucking hate those people

[void spindle]

HAHAHAH EXACTLY those guys

[sinful agate]

I agree, shouldn't compare a game to real life, but if they like dressing up and shooting plastic that's on them

[hexed fern]

honestly with my BPG I want a carrier at the range because my shoulder isn't indestructible

[desert current]

who ever buys a real helmet Is just fucking dumb now if they just use their real steel kit as they shoot actually guns then I can see an excuses for that but their is no need for a real helment

[limber flame]

i mean
im gonna eventually get some level 4 plates as a training aid
get practice with the weight and get used to it
so ill probably use it for airsoft

but thats judt because i want to

[desert current]

That's fair

U plan to use it

not just for airsoft

[sinful agate]

I can understand a real helmet if you plan to put real nods on

[desert current]

U can still use a fake helment with nods bro

[void spindle]

"WHAT'D YOU MEAN YOU DONT SURF /K/ BOARD ON 4CHAN??? Uncultured smh, I'm gonna go be a real player and pretend to be a yugoslav soldier in the 1990s to prove how edgy I am xd"

[sinful agate]

I wouldn't trust the mounts on replica helmets

[hexed fern]

fake helmet gonna break

[void spindle]

Yeah lol, they're called bump helmets, and all you need is the mount.

[desert current]

A mount is not a helment

LOLLL

[void spindle]

Depends.

[desert current]

Ofc u need a real mount

Not a real helment

[sinful agate]

Still mounted to the helmet

[desert current]

if u have coms running a counter weight u should be fine

[limber flame]

tbf real mounts are still cheaper than a legit helmet

[void spindle]

Not it isn't, no one claimed that.

NOROTOS NVG mount from the game are real clamp on mounts.

[sinful agate]

They are, but you'd want a reliable helmet to mount a $3000 nod

It's more to ensure your 3k noodle toy don't break when it drops

[void spindle]

I've seen people do it, so long as your helmet is a fairly priced bump hel.et made of good material.

[hexed fern]

the thing is fake helmets are gonna stress in a way that means eventually your $3000 nods will faceplant, mount included

[desert current]

If I am spending 3k on nods I expect them not to break if they drop

[void spindle]

Yup

[hexed fern]

the expensive part won't break but the glass up front may

[limber flame]

aint the glass replaceable?

[sinful agate]

Cost you a pretty penny

[hexed fern]

and that's still a pain in the ass

[sinful agate]

3k nods aren't 3 grand for a reason

That's that's cheap for a gen 3 pvs14

Not to mention duo tubes

[desert current]

I will say some of these guys Take it to another level of cringe

I have seen some photos on instagram of guys who rlly truly believe they are able to be devgru

[sinful agate]

Well... If you go to a actual milsim event like msw, there are a handful of actual combat vets

Some may and may not be SF

[desert current]

Ofc

but some guys

just have loads of money

who act

[hexed fern]

honestly I have old double tubes that were like
$200 or so
but I'm still not running them in a game

[sinful agate]

Well, those are just your average day larpers

[hexed fern]

gen 1.5 or so

[desert current]

Not even larping man

they take it to another level

[sinful agate]

Lol, how far can you go in terms of larping?

[desert current]

I think larping is good you learn functionality with kits what feels good an not

[hexed fern]

nowhere's set up to let the cheap stuff run without you having a beacon on your face :c

[limber flame]

most of the people that run it ate ex military iirc

[sinful agate]

Yeah, the cadre who supervise these events are usually ex military

[slate leaf]

You are funny

This man claims you can't buy real shit unless you wear helmets when shooting

[desert current]

That's not what I said

💀

[slate leaf]

Genuine bump helmets are the best thing to get

Replicas are not made for anything other then airsoft

[sinful agate]

Vouch for team Wendy bump helmets

[slate leaf]

They aren't meant to mount or hold anything

[slate leaf]

Yeah, I've worn an ops core and an ops core bump and generally they feel much better then fake shit

(Worn fake shit like a couple times, never again)

Same with shitty airsoft brand chest rigs

I would never buy a shit one, actual gear companies are superior

[sinful agate]

This can be said for about anything that's not real steel. For example optics, replica... Horrible eye relief and obviously doesn't hold zero (gbbr)

[slate leaf]

Yeah

I will probably run a holsun on my mp5 at some point,I'll get a fake eokek for now as a placeholder,though

[limber flame]

ew
you have a fake eotech

just get a real one

real ones are so much better

so i look down on anyone that cant afford a real so and so for this funny little game that we play on weekends

because im so cool

[river bison]

any airsoft community and games by a military games especially, im in el paso and alot of people who play are active duty army or just random assorted branches

it gets unfair sometimes, most of my team are my coworkers or people from our other brigade

have to split the teams evenly to keep it fair

[arctic holly]

buying a real eotech to use un-zeroed on a gun that doesn't have the hop set correctly only for it to get shot out in the first game

[limber flame]

yeah

cringe bot

the only reason i have a real optic on my airsoft gun is because i use it on real guns and its a vortex strikefire

not terribly expensive

and vortex warranty

although 4 years going strong and its never been shot out

[arctic holly]

tbf I got a crossfire 2 when the mount on my fake t1 detonated pre-game once

[sinful agate]

I don't use optics, they're really useless since you can see the trajectory

Nyet, rifle is fine

[arctic holly]

See I've had mixed luck with them

[limber flame]

i kinda use it for looks tbf

but i have used it a good bit

once its zeroed in it can make life easy

[arctic holly]

yeah

for taking opportunity shots and the like

[limber flame]

especially because it requires atleast 1 shot to know where that BB is going

and that one shot is never always enough with point shooting

ive used my dot for more accurate shots when i know that i need to hit it

[arctic holly]

yeah too many times I've tried point shooting and said person has been alerted and gone to cover

that first shot can matter

[limber flame]

especially with louder guns or lower capacity

[arctic holly]

me panic firing my glock 19 and missing every shot from 5 metres away

[limber flame]

mood

ive been trying to get better using pistols

as thats one thing im not amazing at

and with a heavy ass ak
it can get a little tiring holding that up in cqb a lot

[arctic holly]

Makeshift garden range time

[limber flame]

my garden isnt really big enough to do that

[arctic holly]

mine isn't really either and even the best option is far from ideal

[limber flame]

although i have been thinking about asking one of the farmers near me if i can set stuff up in his field for a little bit

as
Private ground
and i live extremely close to it

[arctic holly]

Problem I find is

range stuff you're doing rested with little to no pressure

airsoft field

you've been sprinting around with a full length ak all day and you're tired as shit

[limber flame]

true

[arctic holly]

plus adrenaline so your hands are a tad shaky and with a pistol it's hard to stabilise since you don't have the shoulder contact

[limber flame]

my main thing i need to get though is just knowing where my hands are pointing

[arctic holly]

even at really close range a rifle is usually better

[limber flame]

especially since ive just transitioned ti a glock

[arctic holly]

however

pistol is more fun

[limber flame]

its kinda hard to use a rifle indoors at my site

you know old British H shaped barracks buildings?

how tight they can be

[arctic holly]

obvs you have to deal with it being a pain to get round corners

[limber flame]

thats my problem

[arctic holly]

yes

[limber flame]

tons of doors and corners

[arctic holly]

no

[arctic holly]

honestly a gbb mp7 or carbine kit for a gbb pistol would be super good for that kinda environment

I am 100% getting a gbbr for my next gun

[limber flame]

same

used a friends MWS before because he sat out and i asked to use it the next game

holy shit
its fun

only major problem i have
im poor as shit

[slate leaf]

They are really expensive in Poland

I'll get one then get a vortex or holosun red dot

[limber flame]

vortex do make some nice micro dots

[arctic holly]

I was thinking of getting a classic one that doesn't even have the ris rails

[slate leaf]

Would get an actual eokek if I could

[arctic holly]

don't get a fake eotech

[slate leaf]

👍

[arctic holly]

simply because I am yet to find one that is usable

[limber flame]

im planning on saving for the little pistol sized red dots (i cant remember the name) once i get an RMR cut slide

[arctic holly]

get a fake t1 or something instead

they work way better

it's airsoft so the accuracy of a real eotech would be a waste imo

a fake t1 usually strikes a good balance between the accuracy of the gun and the optic

if that makes sense

[gleaming salmon]

my next purchase is gonna be an MWS

my two gas guns as of now is a VFC Glock 19 and a VFC MP7A1

[arctic holly]

how are they

I ended up getting the TM G19 over the VFC one

[gleaming salmon]

VFC is solid, has a lot of aftermarket options (the gen 4 models do) and most compatible with holsters

since they’re more to scale than the TM or WE ones

[arctic holly]

the TM G19 and G17 gen 4 I think are to scale

not their g18 or g17 gen3 tho

[arctic holly]

or at least mine fits real holsters anyway

[gleaming salmon]

the slides on the TMs are slightly slimmer

[slate leaf]

👍

[gleaming salmon]

so they’ll have issues with some holsters

not all of them tho

[arctic holly]

whereas WE ones are obese

[limber flame]

yeah

the 19s and gen 4 17 are RS spec

[gleaming salmon]

here’s my MP7, i got a light coming for it today

[limber flame]

oooh

sex

[gleaming salmon]

ty

solid gun

[arctic holly]

yanno what

I'll allow the single point sling

[gleaming salmon]

its such a short gun, using a two point was kinda awkward

[gleaming salmon]

honestly kinda genius

be right back

[sinful agate]

Dongs are the pinnacle of Romanian engineering

[limber flame]

shark fins are superior

[limber flame]

the door to the circus is on the right

[gleaming salmon]

fucking awesome

[limber flame]

🚪 👈

sir

[sinful agate]

Fucking SICCC

[scarlet condor]

planning on getting an AK-74 soon

[gleaming salmon]

which brand

[dusty magnet]

Any suggestions for a sr47?

[gleaming salmon]

Cyma, not Krytac

and dont get bolt either

[junior sedge]

What the hell even is that :(

[gleaming salmon]

my MCX lmao

[junior sedge]

:(

[limber flame]

my exact reaction

[dapper plover]

What brand is your mcx?

[gleaming salmon]

VFC

the best and only MCX brand

[dapper plover]

AEG?

[gleaming salmon]

yeah

[dapper plover]

Hm, how much was it? Kinda want a mcx, they are sick

[gleaming salmon]

it was uhhh

400$

[dapper plover]

Not bad at all

[gleaming salmon]

they’re nice guns, the stock it comes with is a legit SIG stock

that’s half the price of the gun tbf and the reason why it costs a little more than an M4

[dapper plover]

Hm, need to find one then. They are standard v2 gearbox?

We have a local airsoft dealership that sells the vfc mcx for 910$ like fuck off with your scam prices

[gleaming salmon]

V2 but front wired

so disassembly is kind of a hassle

but it’s alright

[dapper plover]

Ugh 🥴 that means I gotta run one of these battery peq15s

Or does it have some type of retention in the handguard?

[gleaming salmon]

it does, the gas tube accommodates a candy bar sized 11.1 @dapper plover

overall the battery storage is good

[dapper plover]

Good to know

Found out they have a mws hk416a5 on redwolf for the small price of 1600$ too bad it doesn't come with a gissele rail :(

[junior sedge]

Correct reaction

[dapper plover]

why

[gleaming salmon]

because of my pic lmao

[dapper plover]

[scarlet condor]

LCT or CYMA

[junior sedge]

Lct is the way to go if you got the money for it

[sinful agate]

Lct if you want the best, cyma if you want something that works on budget

[sinful agate]

LCT uses better materials and aftermarket market external parts are plenty.

[scarlet condor]

I have the money for the standard LCT AEG, but I unfortunately don't have enough for the EBB (I WANT THE LITTLE BOLT THINGY TO WIGGLE WHEN I GO PEW!!)

[sinful agate]

Don't do EBB it sucks and will break faster than anything on the gun

Just get a gas blow back ak at that point

[scarlet condor]

And spend a million dollars on enough magazines and gas to last the whole day? Fuck no

[sinful agate]

Uh... Green gas mags can be filled with propane, which cost like $10 that'll last you for 3 days worth of mags

Only expensive parts I can think of are the mags for gbbr

[scarlet condor]

3 days worth of mags will easily cost me hundreds of dollars

What makes you think I can afford that I can't even afford an EBB?

[sinful agate]

I'm just saying, with the money you're spending on a ebb, it would be smarter to just get gbbr at that point. In the long run, your ebb LCT will cost more to fix and find parts compare to a gbb ak

A WE AK74UN cost ~$350 -$400?

[scarlet condor]

And 8 mags will cost me...

[sinful agate]

Dude, why do you need 8 mags...

I switched from 6 mags to 4 after swapping to gbb

1.its heavier
2.it only fits like 40 rounds per mag
3.its fun to hear your gun go clack clack

[scarlet condor]

Because I'm gonna get a 6sh112 rig and I want to actually have enough mags to fit in all the pouches

[sinful agate]

I actually have a 6h112 rig

[scarlet condor]

Doesn't mean I'm not allowed to want 8 mags

[sinful agate]

Well, you want a ebb that bad, then get it

Don't say I didn't warn ya, the ebb parts are gonna break first

Then it would just be a regular AEG that cost $100 extra to buy stock 😂

Also ebb have proprietary gearboxes so have fun with finding parts

[limber flame]

can confirm this

had a TM ngrs
EBB system went kaput first

[sinful agate]

There has been countless thread about how unreliable the ebb systems are but this guy be like... But muh mags

[limber flame]

youre never gonna use 8 mags

[scarlet condor]

I don't want to get an EBB just so I can get mags my fella

[limber flame]

at kost ive used 4

most*

on a long day

[sinful agate]

Max I've used is 6

[limber flame]

and i slam rounds constantly because wooded site

use the extra mag pouches for grenades or other stuff

[scarlet condor]

I want to get an EBB because GBBs are far more expensive

[scarlet condor]

I'll just cut some foam blocks

[limber flame]

LCT EBB is literally a little rattle thing

[oak bane]

AEG>>>>

[sinful agate]

Speaking of mags...

[limber flame]

it barely wiggles

[scarlet condor]

i've seen videos of the LCT EBB thing and it's enough for me

again, I can't afford it, so I don't know why you're all getting so pressed about it

[limber flame]

im not gonna drag this on because it aint getting to you
if you want a little rattle for an extra 100 go for it

but dont come complaining if that breaks

[sinful agate]

We're trying to guide you so you don't make financial mistakes

Because ebb depreciate hard

Because people know those aren't reliable and are a pain to take apart and work on

[limber flame]

and are somewhat proprietary

so upgrades are a bitch

[sinful agate]

👆

Also at this point, quick change gearboxes are pretty standard but ebb requires special gearboxes

So a brand new LCT will most likely come with a QC gearbox which makes your life so much better when u need to take it apart

[limber flame]

even my somewhat old LCT ak has a QC spring

[sinful agate]

Yeah, both of mine has qc gearboxes

[limber flame]

and its so nice

especially since it aint a shitty allan head for the QC spring guide

its an actual flathead

[scarlet condor]

Speaking of things breaking

[sinful agate]

Oof , chinezium

[scarlet condor]

G&G has failed me

[sinful agate]

LCT time

[scarlet condor]

Yep!

[sinful agate]

You can bash someone with an lct receiver and the person would break before the gun

[limber flame]

G&G aks are mid tbf

[limber flame]

thats genuinely what it feels like bro

[scarlet condor]

I was given a display model they've had since twenty fuckin seventeen because no one wants to buy anything other than an M4 derivative

[limber flame]

i could use it as a sledge hammer

[sinful agate]

Top al brand are here cyma < e&l < lct

These are my own personal thoughts tho based on my own experience

[scarlet condor]

so pissed they didn't give me a discount

[limber flame]

and i can confirm that lct aks are stronk
ive landed on mine multiple times

funny wonky ground

[scarlet condor]

now the question is

Do I get another AKS74U, or an AK74M?

[sinful agate]

74m

[limber flame]

get a 105

be a chad

[scarlet condor]

for one, I can put a rubber bayonet on the AK74M and not the AKS74U

[sinful agate]

Or that

[limber flame]

[scarlet condor]

when was that one made

[limber flame]

im not sure tbf

[scarlet condor]

i'm doing a 2010 VDV impression kit and I want my gun to be accurate too

[limber flame]

ah

then probably the 74

[scarlet condor]

so I'll probably go for the 74M

[junior sedge]

100 series was 1994

[sinful agate]

I have an ak105 with akm receiver so I can slap wood on everything

[scarlet condor]

oh damn cool

[junior sedge]

So 105 will be fine

[limber flame]

do show

[scarlet condor]

the 105 is just a shorter barrel 74M, right?

[limber flame]

ive yet to see a wooden 105

[junior sedge]

Modernes 74m

[limber flame]

yeah

[sinful agate]

If you want to do vdv impression, get ak74m or ak105

Or ak12

[scarlet condor]

modernized modernized AK74

[junior sedge]

Da

[scarlet condor]

lol

[oak bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/714236518721388556/965649140187021352/unknown.png

[junior sedge]

They don't make new, only old... But modern

[limber flame]

ooh

[oak bane]

it's bakelite but still

[limber flame]

my somewhat modded 105

shit pic ik

[oak bane]

no Zentico?

smh

[sinful agate]

Here is mine

[oak bane]

cursed

[sinful agate]

Will have a dong later

[scarlet condor]

i'm gonna get a 74M because I love muh AK74 flash hider

and I can put a rubber bayonet on it

[limber flame]

its got a zenit sport 1 kit

i need to get more

[limber flame]

smexy

[scarlet condor]

now, the question is...
to fakelite magazine or not to fakelite magazine?

[limber flame]

well
poor mans zenitco

5ku🤢

[sinful agate]

Fakelite if you want that militia vibe

[oak bane]

it's a Cyma cm.040c btw

[scarlet condor]

well the Russian military has a history of using their own surplus, and I love muh bakelite magazines, so I'm gonna get em

[limber flame]

ooooh that looks nice

[oak bane]

Plum LCT mags are the way

[limber flame]

plum mags are sex

[scarlet condor]

they got plum mags?!?!

[oak bane]

yes

[scarlet condor]

fuck fakelite, i'm getting da plum mags!!!

[oak bane]

look at my pic

it's one

[scarlet condor]

@sinful agate what paints did you use for the fakelite mags?

[sinful agate]

I don't remember, I left my paint and stuff at my bros house

[scarlet condor]

Zarn

ayo why it say preorder....

[oak bane]

it's cheap

compared to the other AKs made by LCT

[sinful agate]

It's out of stock rn

[scarlet condor]

I fell in love with the AK74M mostly because of an Arma 3 addon, but in part because it's the base gun you get in Tarkov if you pick BEAR

[scarlet condor]

its the only AK74M except for the EBB one on Evike 💀

[sinful agate]

Try different sites

[oak bane]

I'm sure there's other websites for airsoft in the US

[oak bane]

yems

[sinful agate]

Like airsoft megastore or wgcshop

I recall they had a few lct in stock

[scarlet condor]

don't have moners to buy one rn

$335 isn't really that bad for a full length AK74M especially since it's an LCT

[oak bane]

yes

[scarlet condor]

I bought my AKS74U for $325 at the airsoft store 💀

so mad I didn't get a display model discount

they've had it for 5 years bro

[sinful agate]

Got scammed

[scarlet condor]

fr

just gonna fix the charging handle and sell this shit at a loss 💀

[scarlet condor]

or demote it to display piece

[oak bane]

Quite an expensive display

[crude cradle]

Nice looking gun

Airsoft gun

[scarlet condor]

not like I'm gonna use it, the dust cover can't stay closed whenever I have a battery in

I ain't goin through the trouble of fixing it

[sinful agate]

Doesnt even seem hard to fix it. Just replace the charging handle and sell it, does not take more than 10min to do

[scarlet condor]

no I mean the fact that the dust cover doesn't work when it has a battery in it

[sinful agate]

Thats even easier, just get smaller batteries

Or re-wire it to your stock

[scarlet condor]

what stock

it's an AKS74U

i can't put a battery in the stock

[sinful agate]

Rip, then get smaller battery

2200mah stick is small enough to fit my dustcover

[gleaming salmon]

what brand is this AK

[sinful agate]

I think his is g&g

[gleaming salmon]

ew.

[sinful agate]

Yeah, I'd rather get a cyma at that price

[graceful sequoia]

i love this server already

[scarlet condor]

G&G

totally regret buying it

shouldve just gotten an LCT off evike

[gleaming salmon]

LCT or E&L tbh

[hexed fern]

a question because I want to make something dumb
40mms just need pressure and don't care about speed?

[sinful agate]

Only bad thing I've heard of E&L was that the metal they use can rust

Other than that, they make really good replica

[gleaming salmon]

yeah

i would get LCT over E&L

problem is

the mags for both guns

look so fake

in terms of the bakelite

[sinful agate]

Unfortunately, the best thing would be to paint fake ones

I personally have 4 fakelites + chicom for that militia homeless vibes

[gleaming salmon]

kulatactical from russia sold bakelite mags with midcap guts in them

very pricy but ultra sexy

[scarlet condor]

paint

[scarlet condor]

MP7?

[gleaming salmon]

yep

[scarlet condor]

weird seeing a SCAR type flash hider on an MP7

i'm gonna get an MP7 and just absolutely refuse to unfold the foregrip

"Hey why don't you unfold th-"
"No."

[gleaming salmon]

you can get an A2 if you want

no foregrip, just a picatinny section

so you can either attach a grip you like or just leave it bare

[scarlet condor]

i'd much prefer an A1, has that HL2 SMG look to it

[gleaming salmon]

yea

[scarlet condor]

gonna buy a 6sh112, 4 plum LCT magazines and put water bottles in the other 2 pouches

tactical drimk

and then put those tiny ass enola gaye grenades in the universal pouches

does LCT sell plum furniture

[gleaming salmon]

yes

[grizzled hill]

I don’t like plum furniture

[junior sedge]

You did a dumb

Dumb idiot Dummy

[gleaming salmon]

i wish theyd ship those to canada, would be a fun gamble

but i dont really like any of the guns in there

[gleaming salmon]

the krytac P90 would be cool

kind of a fugly ass gun though

[gleaming salmon]

depends on what kind of strange guns for me

[junior sedge]

Bullpup Romanian ak

The trigger on the dong

[hoary magnet]

rate the adidas fit

[junior sedge]

Mag in with no eyepro

Cringe

[lyric shuttle]

[tribal wren]

(head, eyes) 6mm BB

[hoary magnet]

dummy mag

[hoary magnet]

paintball actually but thought i might post it in here anyway

[tribal wren]

wont paintballs still fuck up your face tho?

[junior sedge]

Ah, still. Danger

[hoary magnet]

yeah sure

[hoary magnet]

Nah i gotchu, im all for safety, but finger far away from trigger + dummy mag + shooting the barrel empty beforehand + gun on safe is enough for me hehe

[junior sedge]

Fair

[slate leaf]

Paintballer,gtfo

• no drip

[indigo laurel]

say does anyone have any good suggestions for a dmr type of airsoft gun

what i was thinking about getting was the evike custom cyma ar-47

[grizzled hill]

Don’t steal my mutant drip

Or do I don’t Really care

[indigo laurel]

yeah it looks really cool

[grizzled hill]

Who can one the one with the magwell or without?

[indigo laurel]

i found an outdoor field near me so i figured i would get some guns that shoot at range

[gleaming salmon]

get a short mutant

the shorter barrel will allow it to have a higher rate of fire and quicker feedback

and they can be built to be just as accurate as a long one

[grizzled hill]

I use long barrel

Because it’s cooler

Well not longest 2nd longest

10 inch

[sinful agate]

SR25

[grizzled hill]

Sr25 is hot

[scarlet condor]

I have one of those funky G&G short barrel SR25s

This fella

Except mine doesn't have a steel muzzle brake

i wonder if it's compatible with SCAR-H mags

probably will be compatible with SR25 mags

[scarlet condor]

damn