airsoft

[velvet pagoda]

Have fun with -$400

[dry hound]

better than our helmets

[elder anchor]

i dont have a bump helmet

[velvet pagoda]

I have one of these lmao

[honest meadow]

ur trying to justify buying a cheap ballistic thats "just as good" as an opscore

[elder anchor]

have fun with your -300 subpar ballistic helmet

[velvet pagoda]

So wtf are you trying to tell me

[velvet pagoda]

It quite literally performed the same i dont have to justify anything

It IS just as good

[elder anchor]

that they are better at being a helmet than a ballistic helmet

[limber flame]

[elder anchor]

other than in the ballistic aspect

how can you be so slow

[limber flame]

if you want a balistic helmet that isnt shit

get an ACH

get it high cut

get some rails

boom

cheaper and actually effective for fragmentation

[honest meadow]

whered u even buy it from @velvet pagoda

[velvet pagoda]

What makes it any more effective at fragmentation than mine

[velvet pagoda]

Ballistic armor co . Com

[limber flame]

the fact that its not made in china?

theyre tried and tested

far less BFD

technically have a higher armour class rating

[velvet pagoda]

BFD is the exact same on mine and ops core

[elder anchor]

says what data

[limber flame]

although theres no rating for helmets

[honest meadow]

aint that the company that Blue Jean Operator found out they where reselling chinese uncertified helms?

[limber flame]

because both use Material thats shit for BFD against anything that isnt fragmentation

unlike the ACH

[limber flame]

mhm

[velvet pagoda]

They are selling american components assembled in china

[honest meadow]

BRUH

[elder anchor]

i keep on seeing this guy say stupid shit in these chats

[limber flame]

yet the company is based out of denmark?

[honest meadow]

knew i had heard the name from somewhere

[elder anchor]

i know its hard to admit a stupid purchase but like come on

[velvet pagoda]

The gen 2 helmets are made in denmark

[limber flame]

they werent made in denmark lmai

[velvet pagoda]

Do you own either

[honest meadow]

and claiming that they were all made 100% in denmark from the start

[velvet pagoda]

They are, the gen 1 arent

[elder anchor]

what?

[velvet pagoda]

Do you own a ballistic OR a bump

[honest meadow]

and they also arent NIJ certified just "tested"

[elder anchor]

lol no

[velvet pagoda]

Then wtf are you to tell me anything dude

[elder anchor]

gonna question my qualifications to talk about this?

dont

[honest meadow]

i own 2 bumps and have worn a ballistic

[limber flame]

https://youtu.be/J_f-xEAHE0E

gen 2's

made in china

sure they stop rounds

but theyre lying to you

so they cant be trusted

[velvet pagoda]

They are

[honest meadow]

i can say from experience the ballistic is more uncomfortable, hotter and overall just a worse experience

[limber flame]

you cant NIJ cert a helmet

[elder anchor]

this guy

[velvet pagoda]

They can be, just not BFD

[elder anchor]

...

[limber flame]

BFD FALLS UNDER NIJ CERTING STUPID

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/997633365647822858/1093316203654688808/SPOILER_jincpope.gif

[velvet pagoda]

So are you saying ops core isnt NIJ certified

[limber flame]

theyre not

[velvet pagoda]

Lol

[elder anchor]

its true

[limber flame]

you can get an equivalent rating

but not an NIJ rating

[limber flame]

but thats generally manufacturer "specs"

[honest meadow]

they also claim to supply the USCG and US Army but from what ive seen they dont look like they do

[velvet pagoda]

Well the helmets are claiming on the site “nij certified”,whether that has an acceptable level of bfd or not is different

[limber flame]

and is normally best case scenario

[elder anchor]

they are full of shit how have you not clocked onto this

[limber flame]

even if it was NIJ certified

[velvet pagoda]

Watch any video of people testing its BFD against calibers and come back

[limber flame]

NIJ's maximum level of BFD would kill you with a helmet anyways

[velvet pagoda]

You can say all you want

[elder anchor]

https://youtu.be/J_f-xEAHE0E\\

[velvet pagoda]

Im aware

[velvet pagoda]

This video has 0 weapon testing

[limber flame]

are you blind

[elder anchor]

lol

[limber flame]

or stupid

[honest meadow]

HE SHOTT IT LIKE 5 TIMES

[velvet pagoda]

Does it i watched it before bjt didnt see

[honest meadow]

cause u watched like 3 mins

[velvet pagoda]

Ok then im wrong i thought it was one where he just talked about it

[limber flame]

then watch futher than the intro

[velvet pagoda]

I watched it a while ago

[honest meadow]

in the thumbnail u can see where its shot too

where the arc rail is blasted

[limber flame]

theres one vid on them

[velvet pagoda]

And was it not an acceptable amount of bfd?

[limber flame]

it was a penetration

[elder anchor]

lol

[honest meadow]

clean pen

[velvet pagoda]

With

[honest meadow]

twice

[limber flame]

7.62x39

[velvet pagoda]

No fucking shit

Bro what

Is there a single helmet that can stop that that doesnt weigh 40 lbs

[limber flame]

with pistol rounds it had unnaceptable BFD

[velvet pagoda]

Like most helmets…

[limber flame]

ops core RF1

[honest meadow]

and some kinda bad deformation with pistol calibers

[velvet pagoda]

Like most helmets.. again, and with good padding it would reduce the risk of that more

[limber flame]

not really

[velvet pagoda]

Either way helmets arent meant to stop bullets

[elder anchor]

stop talking

[velvet pagoda]

The point is it passed tests

[limber flame]

theyre made for fragmentation

which brings us back to our origional argument

as to why a bump is better for a civ than a balistic

jesus fucking christ

[honest meadow]

in ur shtf situation ppl would have to be using frags

[honest meadow]

and stuff like it

[limber flame]

odds are in SHTF
you are near noone

you dont ever want to be there

you want to be gone

which is why recce and lighter kits is far more important

[honest meadow]

and when ur in the mountains u wont wanna be wearing a helm

or pc

[limber flame]

if you need nods get a bump

[velvet pagoda]

I literally said i wouldnt be wearing a helmet in SHTF anyways

[limber flame]

so you can use them without it being uncomfortable

[limber flame]

THEN YOUR ARGUMENT IS FLAWED

[velvet pagoda]

I bought a helmet because i like helmets, its cool, it has a use, thats all

[limber flame]

[velvet pagoda]

I said that way before you even hopped into the conversation

[limber flame]

insanity

[velvet pagoda]

Do you own a ballistic helmet?

[honest meadow]

if u want a ballistic looking fast helm just get a replica at the same weight

[limber flame]

have in the past yes

[velvet pagoda]

Again, why would i want a non ballistic helmet

[velvet pagoda]

Okay, and they were legit ops or wendy?

[honest meadow]

why would u want a ballistic helmet to look at

[limber flame]

used to own a british mk7 helmet

[honest meadow]

compared to a replica

[limber flame]

why would you want a balistic?

[velvet pagoda]

You cant answer my question with a question

[limber flame]

i can

[elder anchor]

why are you asking this like it proves anything

[velvet pagoda]

Why would i, want a NON ballistic helmet, over a ballistic helmet, other than weight

[honest meadow]

answer my question then

[velvet pagoda]

Credibility

[elder anchor]

better at stopping head impacts and overall better at carrying weight ext

[limber flame]

because youre not getting shot at

[elder anchor]

better platform for night vision

[limber flame]

in the head

[velvet pagoda]

Why would i want a helmet to look at he says

[limber flame]

now answer my question

[elder anchor]

thats not how that works bud

[limber flame]

why would you want a balistic

[honest meadow]

if ur gonna cover the helmet with a cover then what would be the difference with a bump

[velvet pagoda]

It cant stop bullets

[honest meadow]

cause with the cover you have on you cant actually see the helmet anyways

[limber flame]

oh my days

[velvet pagoda]

Its a glorified bicycle helmet

[limber flame]

im done

[honest meadow]

u just said it doesnt matter cause u wont wear it

u gonna shoot it then put up for display?

[velvet pagoda]

If i had to

[elder anchor]

NEITHER CAN BALLISTIC HELMETS, AS YOU HAVE SAID YOURSELF

[velvet pagoda]

It can stop bullets, at an acceptable level? Probably not

[honest meadow]

u legit said ok but helmets cant stop bullets mostly anyways

[elder anchor]

I GIVE UP

wow

just wow

[velvet pagoda]

I really dont see how im wrong here

[limber flame]

[velvet pagoda]

Bump helmets are stupid

[elder anchor]

youve gotta be brain fucked or smth

[velvet pagoda]

How old are you

[honest meadow]

if not at an acceptable level then that means brain trauma or death so doesnt matter that u had the ballistic one on

[velvet pagoda]

One of us will have an open casket funeral, you can wear the bump, i think ill have the open casket

[limber flame]

a hole in the head is easier to cover

[honest meadow]

in the shtf situation u will just be left rotting or buried in a hole anyways

[limber flame]

a massive fucking dent
not so much

[elder anchor]

guess based on the fact im being contracted as a technical advisor for firearms and small unit tactics

hint

[velvet pagoda]

9mm the helmet stops with little bfd

[elder anchor]

you wont get it right

you are simply not in your depth

[honest meadow]

yea a clean hole with a exit would can be covered up way easier than ur head being caved in

[velvet pagoda]

The fact you are on discord tells me you are either a grown man or a 20 year old know it all

[honest meadow]

so r u

[elder anchor]

lol

[velvet pagoda]

Im 18

[elder anchor]

you dont know it all

you dont know enough to talk about this

so stop talking

[honest meadow]

ur acting like a know it all too

[velvet pagoda]

You havent shown me where the helmet is bad

[limber flame]

ok so
all the ex and currently serving in the other irl channels arent credible either because its discord?

[elder anchor]

we have

[velvet pagoda]

Where has it performed less than expected

[honest meadow]

more likely to cave ur head in from low speed impacts from rounds and frag

[elder anchor]

the BJO video

[honest meadow]

also the company blatantly lied to everyone

[elder anchor]

hes coping with his terrible purchase

i give up

[limber flame]

buyers remorse is a hell of a drug

[elder anchor]

truly

wait until he stops giving a shit

he might learn something

[honest meadow]

if ur gonna put it on there anyways whats the difference of a replica

[velvet pagoda]

He hit it with 2 things it was rated for and then obliterated it with a rifle round

[honest meadow]

those ww2 helmets wont stop majority of rounds either

[velvet pagoda]

So credible

[honest meadow]

more credible than u

[velvet pagoda]

It stops rounds AS EXPECTED TELL ME how that makes it bad

Really tell me

[honest meadow]

with unacceptable deformation

which would kill you or leave u a vegetable 9/10 times

[velvet pagoda]

It stopped 9mm with a survivable level of deformation

Directly to the center

[honest meadow]

and also the fact that civs dont need one cause like we've said unless ur getting shrapnel flung at u its usless and u could just have a bump thats more comfortable

[velvet pagoda]

My helmet is very comfortable

[honest meadow]

over long periods the weight no matter what will strain ur neck

[velvet pagoda]

No shit

[honest meadow]

that is just a fact of the human body

[velvet pagoda]

Why would i wear a bump in ANY situation

I can think of situations i wear a ballistic

Not any for a bump

[honest meadow]

what situations would U use a ballistic in

[elder anchor]

you are not very bright huh

[velvet pagoda]

If i was getting into a situation where i could potentially be shot at

[velvet pagoda]

Maybe running through the forest like a mental patient you can wear your special bump to protect your head

[honest meadow]

in that situation unless ur in a group ur dead cause u will be knocked out most likely

[velvet pagoda]

Better than dead

[honest meadow]

and u cant defedn urself when out cold

[limber flame]

not in shtf

[honest meadow]

u will be unless ur in a group

[velvet pagoda]

And i would not be just walking around id be in my own property

[limber flame]

it rather be dead than vulnerable

[velvet pagoda]

Why would i roam around alone

[elder anchor]

youre saying you wouldn't be running through the forest in any feasible situation

[honest meadow]

so someone is siegeing ur house?

[velvet pagoda]

Is a ballistic helmet not equally as capable

[honest meadow]

id get it for a long range shot from a rifle that might ricochet

[elder anchor]

no

the bump is more comfortable and better at protecting against, you know, bumps

[velvet pagoda]

Again, im a CIVILIAN, i am not in a war, i dont really “need” a helmet, i just wanted one, not really for any purposeful reason, is that not enough?

You are the kind of people who wanna ban body armor “because theres no real reason for you to own it”

[elder anchor]

then why do you care that your helmet is bad

[velvet pagoda]

My helmet isnt bad?

[honest meadow]

no bc body armour is actually viable for a civ

[elder anchor]

weve gone over it

it is

[velvet pagoda]

How

Im not getting into this again

[elder anchor]

https://youtu.be/J_f-xEAHE0E

[velvet pagoda]

Its a broken record

[elder anchor]

it is

because youre too stupid

to understand

youre breaking my english like god

stop talking

[velvet pagoda]

“9mm ok it stopped it,,, uhh, shotgun it stopped… im supposed to make this thing look bad…. BOOM RIFLE ROUND WOWWWW IT DIDNT STOP IT STUPID CHINESE HELMET”

[elder anchor]

broken record huh

unacceptable bfd

[velvet pagoda]

This server is a mental hospital

[velvet pagoda]

He literally says “youd survive this”

[limber flame]

with medical care yes

you will not easilly walk away from that

[velvet pagoda]

Dude shoots a helmet from 8 meters and it has a huge dent like wow shocking

[honest meadow]

but bc its a cheap helmet, cheaper helmet materials, compromised helmet quicker

[velvet pagoda]

Its not underperforming

[limber flame]

and unless your team is big enough and has a dedicated medic
you wont get effective care

(odds are you wont have a solid team in SHTF)

[velvet pagoda]

No helmet will stop kinetic energy

I never made the claim it was magical

[limber flame]

oh my days

IQ of a fucking brick

[velvet pagoda]

He says in BOTH shots the helmet was rated for “you could walk away from that” “the padding would help”

[limber flame]

jesus

[velvet pagoda]

Did you not watch the video you made fun of me for not watching

[limber flame]

you contradict yourself every sentence

[elder anchor]

literally

every other statement

[velvet pagoda]

Im not the one bringing up bullet stopping again blood is

[honest meadow]

theyre the only reason u get a ballistic helmet over a bump tho

[velvet pagoda]

Literally blows a helmet up with multiple rifle rounds like wow it didnt stop it chineseium lmao

[honest meadow]

a ballistic helmet is only for direct action where ur getting frag'd from mortars and shit a bump is alot more versatile

[velvet pagoda]

I highly doubt bumps are rated for shrapnel

If thats what you’re getting at

[honest meadow]

its not

im saying the ballistic is only really better at that over a bump

[velvet pagoda]

I really am not understanding where i was wrong in any of my statements, they can say im “wow 1 iq brick iq” but they havent explained how im wrong

[honest meadow]

cause ur saying bumps have no use and a ballistic is just better

[velvet pagoda]

Sure, a bump helmet is lighter, which is probably going to make it better for absorbing LIGHT impacts, i can accept that

But otherwise i dont see how a bump is better

[honest meadow]

bumps are made for impacts what do u think mountain climbers use?

they take heavy impacts and are saved by bumps all the time

[velvet pagoda]

Yes obviously im not climbing mountains and mountain climbers need the lightest helmets possible

[elder anchor]

nobody is talking to you anymore because its impossible

you refuse to take our points

[honest meadow]

Hell Team Wendy makes bumps cause the founders Daughter died in a ski'ing accident cause the bump helmet wasnt good enough

[velvet pagoda]

You gave up because you are wrong

And dont want to admit it

[elder anchor]

lol

[honest meadow]

why do special forces and regular units use them then

[velvet pagoda]

In combat?

Or training

[honest meadow]

in combat they use them too

[velvet pagoda]

In situations where otherwise theyd be wearing helmets? Or otherwise be wearing nothing

[limber flame]

paradrops
vehicle ops
helicopters

recce

a lot of situations

[velvet pagoda]

Okay those are specialized situations

[limber flame]

unless its direct action the will favour bumps

[velvet pagoda]

I can accept that

[honest meadow]

situations where bumps are more comfortable and usable than ballisitc

[limber flame]

theyre the main situations for SF

[velvet pagoda]

I can agree that bumps would be more useful in special circumstances

[limber flame]

regualr infantry generally get balisticas because theyre direct action troops

[elder anchor]

so youre saying youre gonna be conducting direct action missions as a civilian

[velvet pagoda]

More likely than paratrooping, yes, lmfao

[elder anchor]

what about recce

[velvet pagoda]

Id rather wear no helmet

[honest meadow]

alot more situations than a ballistic

[elder anchor]

what about night vision

[velvet pagoda]

I have a headstrap for my nightvisions either way

And nobody is really gonna be using those

Id rather use it like binoculars

[elder anchor]

headstraps are objectively worse

[velvet pagoda]

Of course

[elder anchor]

what the fuck are you saying

[velvet pagoda]

I dont have expensive nvg

Im not a larper, again

[elder anchor]

NVGs are NVGs

what are they digital or smth?

[velvet pagoda]

Yes

[elder anchor]

get the fuck out of here

just leave

[velvet pagoda]

“Wow you dont own $3000 nvg lmaooo” this server has so many mentally ill people

I dont NEED nvg

Im not sneaking around like a child

I have flashlights

[elder anchor]

but youre arguing using your helmet in shtf

where you would need NVGs

im arguing the application of bump helmets

[velvet pagoda]

It was an example also i said again, i wouldnt even wear it then

[elder anchor]

so you have it purely for fun

[velvet pagoda]

Yes im sure a bump would be good for holding nvg much better than straps

But its not something i would be doing

[velvet pagoda]

Yep, i said that from the start

[elder anchor]

what do you mean by fun

[velvet pagoda]

I was gonna get a cool little thermal monocular for $600 probably

[velvet pagoda]

Search training with my dog

Spotting animals

Thats it really

For the nvg^

[elder anchor]

so why didnt you get a repro

[velvet pagoda]

A repro what

Nvg?

[honest meadow]

helmet

if ur using it to carry around nvg's

[velvet pagoda]

Because i dont want something that has 0 purpose other than looks

Or whatever, bump,

[elder anchor]

so its not just for fun then

you keep
contradicting
yourself

[velvet pagoda]

For the off chance that i need a ballistic helmet, i have one before its too late, is that hard to understand

Its not the main reason i bought it

It is A reason

[elder anchor]

but i thought you wouldnt be using a helmet for shtf

contradiction after contradiction

[honest meadow]

in that situation u would want plates to do u have plates?

[velvet pagoda]

If i ended up having to

[velvet pagoda]

Most likely i wouldnt

[elder anchor]

so why didnt you buy a repro

[velvet pagoda]

I have 2 level 4 ceramic esapi

[velvet pagoda]

You are repeating yourself over and over

[elder anchor]

because you keep on doing the same

[velvet pagoda]

Because you are making me repeat myself by asking the same things

[velvet pagoda]

I also have soft armor

[honest meadow]

other than frag and SOME pistol rounds kinda useless

[velvet pagoda]

Soft armor is for pistol rounds which btw, 90% of crime is committed with handguns

[honest meadow]

in this shtf situation u would most liklely be in the wilderness/ mountains tho

[velvet pagoda]

Im not leaving my property

Unless i have to

[honest meadow]

do u live in the city or close?

[velvet pagoda]

The nearest city is like 20 minute drive

Like major

Im in suburb hell

Philadelphia is 20 min away

[honest meadow]

then in that situation ur asking to get in a gunfight

best place to be is the middle of nowhere

[velvet pagoda]

Ok let me just move my entire property

There is no reason to leave

I dont live in a neighborhood

[honest meadow]

take everything u can to survive as long as possible and get tf outta there before a group of raiders comes and surrounds u and either kills u or injures u and leaves u with nothing

[velvet pagoda]

They can try

[honest meadow]

brodie u aint gonna be 1v5 clutching the round

[velvet pagoda]

Id rather be dead than abandon my home

[velvet pagoda]

Not planning on it and i dont know what kind of fallout scenarios you are coming up with

[honest meadow]

well im thinking worst case everything dissolved ppl left to fend for themselves

whatre u thinking of?

[velvet pagoda]

Unless my city gets directly nuked i dont think the world would ever go to that level of apocalypse

If it does we are all fucked

[honest meadow]

ok what situation r u thinking of then

[velvet pagoda]

I didnt really have anything in particular pictured

I guess its not terribly far fetched your idea

If it came to that I probably would not be good whether or not i decided to stay on my property

[honest meadow]

more of a chance if u head to the mountains

[velvet pagoda]

The mountains are quite far unless i went into Pennsylvania

Id probably be fine there

[honest meadow]

or the woods

[velvet pagoda]

I have a bugout bag packed

Multiple

Id be okay id say

[velvet pagoda]

Pennsylvania has mountainy woods id say

Like very steep hills

[honest meadow]

u would be better of there than in ur house

[velvet pagoda]

I still need a gas powered stove that i can fit in my bag

[honest meadow]

jet boil

[velvet pagoda]

And a mini tent so i dont have to drag around a huge tent

[limber flame]

tarp

[velvet pagoda]

Dont they rip too easy usually

And weigh a ton

[limber flame]

no?

[velvet pagoda]

Maybe i can get a smaller thicker one

[limber flame]

just get a good tarp

[velvet pagoda]

Because i know classic blue tarps rip all over

And are a hassle

[limber flame]

well yeah
the blue ones are shite

get one thats a similar material to a tent

[velvet pagoda]

If anything is better than that it should be fine

Any that will fit inside of a 45L or will i need to strap it on

[dry hound]

i changed the sticker on the other side

[glacial drift]

Dude i live in northeast lol

I'm guessing you're from Bristol or deleware county or something

[velvet pagoda]

Camden county NJ

[glacial drift]

Oh nasty place to live

[velvet pagoda]

Camden county not camden city

[hybrid vapor]

I just go dressed like this to the field and my team was freaking out

[crystal rover]

This gun drives me nuts

[low umbra]

cool fit

[humble token]

girl operator moment, or femboy operator?

[void spindle]

"uwu look at me I'm a kat gurl e-crusader here to SLAYYY all the osamas" cringe.

[static wolf]

All she did was post a pic lol

[void spindle]

who gives a damn, post gear.

[void spindle]

cringe patch

[humble token]

sir, this is an airsoft channel

[void spindle]

HoW'D yoU kNoW iT's NaWt AiRSofT!? 🤓

[humble token]

flag

[void spindle]

it's just larp

[void spindle]

I'm joking of course, that's a real gun.

we need assault baguettes in tarkov

fresh out the bakery down klimov street.

[hybrid vapor]

Girl operator, I’m she/her

[humble token]

ah, so the other people on the field just didn't know how to socialize like normal people

[hybrid vapor]

Like this guy on the channel that was complaining and call me cringe? Yeah

[humble token]

I'd get if the reason people were freaking out was femboy get up cus that can get you some "uuuuh, okay?" reactions

of people just not knowing what to think

[humble token]

pretty much

you see the youtube short of the girl who put their phone number as their tarkov username?

[hybrid vapor]

Yeah

[humble token]

whole lot of "oh, I'm not allowed to talk to girls"

lol

[humble token]

you don't wind up with bruising btw?

Kit looks like you're not wearing sleeves

I'm not really an airsofter, but I would assume at closer ranges there'd be a sting

[hybrid vapor]

was somewhat painful but they barely hit me in that game

[humble token]

Fair enough

I'm sure if it hurt enough to bother you, next time you could prepare accordingly 🤷‍♂️

[hybrid vapor]

I usually wear the uniform of my old brigade hahahaha

[humble token]

Oh fun

[hybrid vapor]

but I wanted to go something different since it was a game of 30 minutes or so

i dont wanted to go full equip or smth

[humble token]

Gotta send it every so often

[crystal rover]

Someone was going to give me a jack for my pistol, and backed out to give it to someone who has like 50 hpa engines

[elder anchor]

Post airsoft kit

[heavy thorn]

Brrrrrrt

[elder anchor]

Ops on the airsoft optic?

[heavy thorn]

?

[low umbra]

holographic + magnifier is my favorite look

[elder anchor]

how do you like it

[low umbra]

[elder isle]

None

[rapid wolf]

magnifier so expensive

finally picked up a belt last weekend

need to get a plate carrier now tho

no way im putting my fucking 2lb gbb mags on my belt

[dusty mica]

What r u doing here @rapid wolf

[rapid wolf]

gun brokie me thinks 😢😢

[lost dove]

dissection

[honest meadow]

u got a E&L too?

just guessing from the seriel num on the 2nd pic

[lost dove]

y e s

[honest meadow]

man i love how the charging handle sounds

[lost dove]

SAME

the charging handle sounds amazing

[honest meadow]

even tho some ppl think its cringe if i reload i rack it

same with everything else i use

[lost dove]

S a m e

I rack everything I reload

[honest meadow]

i dont get how they made it sound better than the other brands it just sounds like it has more weight behind it or smth

[lost dove]

It just sounds so nice when you rack it

it's just a generally Pleasing sound

[honest meadow]

the charging handle also isnt wobbly compared to other brands too

[honest meadow]

i mean i like the sound of a car driving over gravel so anything little and obscure i tend to like the sound of

[lost dove]

fair point
but it's just a nice metal sound

[lost dove]

It really is tho

[honest meadow]

i mean once u have the dustcover on ive found that it doesnt wobble as bad as some my friends LCT and Cyma's

[lost dove]

I just gotta get another dust cover

Mine is kinda wobbly

[honest meadow]

yea i was kind looking at the arcturus railed dustcover as it mounts on the rear trunion so would hold zero good enough for airsoft and also its nice to have it hinged instead of having to hit it in place perfect everytime

[split mesa]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484432451398139904/1100545578540208148/WhatsApp_Bild_2023-04-26_um_00.06.32.jpg

Summer fit

[heavy thorn]

My max pro m4p hop up doesn’t slide all the way in anybody have a fix for that?

[honest meadow]

Whip out the sledgehammer and hit it till it fits

[heavy thorn]

😦

[ruby pollen]

boys i just hit the lottrey anyone want to help me making a shoping list?

[neon gyro]

scorpion evo

[ruby pollen]

ive had that before. not the besgt

ive got an airsoft gbb so i want an hpa rifle for the wenter

winter

[neon gyro]

yo nice name

i jus realized

[ruby pollen]

lol

want to hop in call and look for some stuff?

[neon gyro]

cant rn

[ruby pollen]

ight

[static wolf]

how much you win?

[glacial drift]

3 dubloons

[humble token]

could also get real kit as well

[elder anchor]

What do you mean

[zealous blaze]

Maybe you hit the limit of the hop up?

[ruby pollen]

I’ve got a real kit squared away already @humble token

[zinc barn]

New kit new me

[wheat isle]

my first rifle

[wheat isle]

where did you get the as val

[zinc barn]

local store near me in the netherlands

its pretty hard to get depending where you are

[wheat isle]

i know

could only find vss here and its shit

[honest meadow]

what brand?

[wheat isle]

cyma

the cat's brand is blue russian

[honest meadow]

nice for a first rifle

[rustic rivet]

It's not a CM.031 right?

[analog vine]

is the cat full auto?

[wheat isle]

047

[wheat isle]

unfortunately

[rocky crypt]

we need a 2011 in tarkov

[crystal rover]

We don’t

We already have glocks

[river bison]

Built up a new GBB

Only have 4 mags and a drum mag with an HPA tap though

[crystal rover]

I love it

[river bison]

I literally have 2 of them now

[crystal rover]

… you just make me more jealous everytime you post

[humble token]

you gonna swap furniture?

[humble token]

what kit?

[slim ocean]

yunny

[ruby pollen]

Basic. It’s a psa ar15 and a Glock 17 gen 4

[slim ocean]

?

[humble token]

and supporting kit?

[ruby pollen]

Tf is that a back up ?

[humble token]

are you asking what I mean by supporting kit?

[ruby pollen]

Yes

[humble token]

like belts, chest rigs, plate carriers, holsters, armor, etc

doesn't make much sense to have a pistol and rifle, but you gotta have the extra mags and pistol in your pockets

doesn't work very well

[limber flame]

yooo
he got da unreasonably heavy stock

[river bison]

Lol it’s an honest to god PRS Gen 3 I have lying around for one of my real guns

And it’s not that heavy

If you think this shit is heavy you have noodle arms

[limber flame]

its just hefty compared to most other stocks

[crystal rover]

The Bain of my existence

After this is fixed

Moving on to the pp-19 and fixing it

[silver haven]

Completed another custom build! Introducing the EFT MK18 Prokill!
https://tiparadox.com/collections/custom-builds

[dry hound]

the prices

still cool

[strange lance]

anyone got a STL file for a 3d printable SE-5 foregrip?

[humble token]

why?

got a build you're emulating

[strange lance]

Because I want to add it to my roblox game

[humble token]

also, you could totally expand on this

[strange lance]

I want to 3d print it and slap it on my M4 AEG

Not to emulate any specific build

Just thought it would be funny to print the META GRIP and stick it on my M4

[humble token]

well if you wanted to have a "meta" grip for the meme

the 45 angled grip would be a better fit imo

just cus it's been meta during more wipes, for a longer period of time

it's pretty iconic at this point

[hushed yoke]

[velvet pagoda]

You can buy them on wish really really cheap

[strange lance]

but i wanna print em

[velvet pagoda]

And theyre really stable

[strange lance]

[velvet pagoda]

Idk if theres any file check thingiverse

[strange lance]

yeah

[low umbra]

💦

[faint sun]

Just get a BCM grip stop copying Tarkov 😭

[honest meadow]

but meta in game = meta irl

[faint sun]

bruh

[honest meadow]

its what they be thinking

[limber flame]

shit aint even meta lmao

[faint sun]

The only reason I go to tarkov channels is to clown on the Tarkov grips on real/airsoft guns.

[river bison]

Lol my plan when it came to the block II FSP fell through

Kept coming back to the urgi style

[elder anchor]

Ayo GBBR URGI??

[river bison]

Yeah lol

[limber flame]

which brand

it better not be KWA

[river bison]

No it’s not a damn LM4, it’s an upgraded WE GBB with RA Tech steel shit

It sucks that VFC GBB’s aren’t really an option here

GHK’s has a lack of drum mags or HPA’able mags I could use for my HPA rigs

The tokyo marui MWS’s are also another issue

So I stuck with the WE just because the parts are readily available and cheaper

Also helps that it uses some real steel shit that’s readily available for me

[dry hound]

prob if you get a airsoft gun with recoil shock

like the tokyo marui mp5

[honest meadow]

i mean not really grips are all just preference

[dry hound]

i want to get a 3d printer

id use it to print grips and stuff

or make stocks

[limber flame]

and ghk's are absolutely shit and not worth these days
shame

[river bison]

I feel like the WE was a lot more economical especially if I’m gonna Daytona the thing in the future

[limber flame]

true

[crystal rover]

Don’t Daytona it, trust

[river bison]

As long as it’s something I can afford to break

[limber flame]

the WE's are reasonably good with RA tech parts

but without the internals are just cheese

[river bison]

One thing I learned about WE’s is that steel upgrades need to be used with other steel upgrades

Can’t mix and match

Or you will break shit

[crystal rover]

Makes sense

[limber flame]

yeah
theyre funky like that

[crystal rover]

I want to put aluminum parts into my mp9 but I don’t want to go through the pain of custom parts

[river bison]

HPAing GBB’s also has the potential to lengthen the life span just because you can use less psi

[crystal rover]

Yeah

[river bison]

And less wear and tear on parts

As long as you regularly maintain

That’s why my MP7 and GBB vector is still going strong even after being abused

[crystal rover]

I wanna get rid of my pistol for a hpa engine but no one wants to trade hpa pistol for a engine lol

[honest meadow]

stocks r to big for most and also need to be able to take alot of abuse compared to a grip

[dry hound]

I could use a file from a real 3d printable gun copy the stock and kaboom

We'll see when I get a 3d printer

[frozen raven]

Collection of E&L’s

[glacial drift]

Lucky

I've wanted a g36 for a while

[vocal gate]

which brand of scar H u recommend?

[elder anchor]

TM or VFC

[vocal gate]

vfc has GBBB lookin for aeg

@elder anchor what about cybergun/vfc one

Thats obly one i have at my local shop its fully liscensed

[elder anchor]

I’ve experienced the cyber gun one

Completely stripped the gearbox mid game

The motor fucked it

It’s a no from me

[vocal gate]

Shiiiiet

Well gotta order online vfc aeg

[limber flame]

cyber gun dont make guns

theyre the license holder

same with umarex

[humble token]

makes me sad how good the guns look and how bad the mag looks

[vocal gate]

Well only scar H aeg rn i can find is cybergun/vfc and its expensive AF

@elder anchor what about vega force scar H

Supposedly its mix lf vfc and some shit

[limber flame]

vega force is VFC

Vega Force Company

[vocal gate]

ahhh so its good

[elder anchor]

Should be gtg

[frozen raven]

youdd think at least ONE company would make a mag that doesnt look like dogshit

[river bison]

i HPA'd my VFC SCAR H

its abit iffy with the stock hopup, i used the maxx hopup but it was having issues with nozzle alignment

worked after i put a tension spring on the hopup + inner barrel

[crystal rover]

@vocal gate if you can find a double bell one they are decent from what I have heard

[river mural]

Thoughts??

[crystal rover]

Isn’t that a rs gun?

[vocal gate]

i ahve dboys but its old AF and idk if i should just get new one or spend some cash to upgrade it

[crystal rover]

How old

[vocal gate]

couple years

she is stock internal she has couple scratches das all

[humble token]

Just convert a real mag

[zealous blaze]

or paint it

[dry hound]

looks cool

[frozen raven]

i live in NY 30s are iffy to get my hands without traveling : (

[wheat isle]

very sturdy very loud 10/10

[wheat isle]

nice

[wheat isle]

we got the same one

[mellow sage]

yup, the cyma's one

[wheat isle]

is it the 40 or 47 version

[mellow sage]

ak74m, CM.040C

[wheat isle]

ah

i have the 47c

so yours is supposedly better

but i dont see any difference

[foggy marlin]

My circa 2004 TM mp5 modded my red wolf found it when cleaning out my closet… need to buy a new battery and see if it still spits plastic

[honest meadow]

the cm 47 c has the crappy tm clone internals

[river bison]

Holy fuck that’s ancient

[wheat isle]

i mean its not shitty

[tribal tree]

Airsofted

Aero dynamic softed air

[honest meadow]

kong stay too drippy

[limber flame]

awh nah
he dun made the air go soft

no rizz

[honest meadow]

he has plus 100 hundred rizz with the depressed blue haired girls tho

[limber flame]

that is very true

he got dat emo girl rizz

[honest meadow]

@tribal tree how do u do it what tips and tricks do u have for the average airsofter with negative rizz

[tribal tree]

No

[glacial drift]

i finally bought the rest of my kit

I will finally be able to actually play airsoft

[honest meadow]

show

[humble token]

10 rounders with the internal stop are the same difference as far as converting to airsoft mags go

[slate leaf]

Kukla Redut my beloved

RusFor kit for tomorrow

Osprey moments

[dry hound]

real

nah but its fine cause it aint a replica

i need to put sponges on the arms things and the collars

[slate leaf]

Ah it's a genuine one, nice, I need to get a plate for my Redut flap, maximum impracticality

[dry hound]

real

or just use sponges

theres like a special type of sponge

i forgot its name in english

Sponge boards

something like that

[oak bane]

cm.040c arvostaja

[slate leaf]

Nah nah, I want joint pain

[mellow sage]

Master race😎

Tai no piti alunperin hommaa lct akm... jotenki päädyin tuohon lopulta

[dry hound]

the nsn number was colo

coloured with a mark for some reason

on the full collar

[oak bane]

lct on vähä huono hintaan

[mellow sage]

Nojoo mut näytti herkult ainaki ulkoopäi, oon noissaki nii tarkka et jos puun väriki näyttää oudolt nii ei kelpaa🤣

[oak bane]

juu

[honest meadow]

just gonna let u guys know the mods only want english in this channel thats not coming from me but from the mods themselves so im just letting u know before they come tell u

[oak bane]

i know

that's why we went in DMs

it was just few messages

[low umbra]

is anyone familiar with the Crosman AK1 GBBR?

[limber flame]

if its what im thinking of
its a pellet/BB gun

and not quite GBB

[low umbra]

really

[limber flame]

it just acts like any other 4.5mm BB gun with a co2 cart

barely goes back
just enough to pick up the bb

yeah theyre air rifles

[low umbra]

i see

ffs i was excited for a modern ak gbb finally

but no..

[limber flame]

crossman typically makes air rifle shit

[limber flame]

sucks dont it?

[low umbra]

yea

[limber flame]

580 joules

i can assure you
that isnt airsoft legal

[low umbra]

ok thanks for helping

[honest meadow]

what about what jag airsoft has he has a AKX gbb im pretty sure

yea he has a TM AKX GBBR

[low umbra]

hold on really

[honest meadow]

yea

its a full modern short barrel ak gbbr

mlok furniture with railed dustcover

[low umbra]

i've googled it it looks pretty cool, might acc buy it

TM aswell which is nice to see

ty for telling me know

[brazen ocean]

I am trying to put together a new piston head but I don’t know where the ball bearings are supposed to go. Do they go on the inside or outside of the piston

[river bison]

Anyone else run a dual tank set up?

[crystal rover]

I know someone who does

What you need?

[old latch]

Inside the piston, drop it in and then mount the head, the bearing should be pressed down by the screw head. Also, use Loctite on the screw, otherwise it'll come loose in no time

[river bison]

I’m debating on using a dual tank set up for my HPA tapped GBB’s

[crystal rover]

What psi do you run at and what size tank?

[river bison]

90-100 48ci 3500 psi

[crystal rover]

Nah don’t both

[river bison]

I just want it to last longer

[crystal rover]

You should be good

[river bison]

I run drums in all of them

[crystal rover]

I run a 13ci tank at 100 psi

Last me like 5 games

200 rounds each game on ave

[river bison]

I’m worried because these AW custom drums consume a lot of air when I change out the lines

[crystal rover]

That’s how it be sadly

I mean you could do a 13ci with a 48, will solve the air lose issue but you still get the full of the 48

Also will cost alot less unless you already have 2 tanks

[dry hound]

i thought it was a weird tec-9💔

[dry hound]

this was from an old airsoft match where my dad was

and they got a truck stuck

[tribal wren]

thoughts on specna arms FLEX?

[elder anchor]

Best you’ll get for the money but also so bad it’s not worth the money

[tribal wren]

how so? I'm looking for an AEG ar

[elder anchor]

It’s the budget line of the budget line, it’s not built to last in the slightest

It will do better than other budget rifles because that’s what specna arms does

But it’s never gonna be good

[tribal wren]

what would you recommend for around 200 then?

i know a mate who has had a specna rifle for like 6 years

not the specific one but same brand

[elder anchor]

I’ve got multiple specna arms rifles

Very good

Any of the specna edge/edge 2.0 series are gtg

Especially for beginners

The externals on the specna H/one series which go for a little more are absolutely kosher however they don’t have the same technical upgrades such as the mosfets

[honest meadow]

UK guys u seen the shit show that has been AI500?

[crystal rover]

The 2 guns I want to use, both are top 2 fav guns, both broken

[elder skiff]

https://youtube.com/shorts/prkQAGTW4JA?feature=share

[hushed yoke]

its the internal tank in the mag

[low umbra]

hot

[limber flame]

LPVO*

Low Power Variable Optic

[timber pebble]

beautiful

[crystal rover]

Shit bussin

[grand mulch]

Pov I thought I was in the Airsoft sever again

[limber flame]

thats not how POV works lad

[humble token]

and also misspelled server

[dry cobalt]

Pew pew

[lost dove]

I have a plan

[velvet pagoda]

Get pasgt vest to be airsoft pellet proof

[hybrid vapor]

Usec cap feels good

[honest meadow]

usec more like usuck

BEAR ON TOP

[limber flame]

SO TRUE💪💪

[lost dove]

no vest

only absorbing bullets

[limber flame]

we die like men💪

(fragmentation from friendly artillery)

[lost dove]

yes

[smoky socket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890385110959005747/1103077853299486800/VID_435500201_071941_1221.mp4

new plate carrier arrived

Agilite k19 + Hanger 6 pouch

[nocturne spindle]

outfit looks great

[smoky socket]

Danke

I want to get the same belt I'm wearing in this clip in black

[old solstice]

why do you have a tv from the 80s

@smoky socket

[smoky socket]

Don't worry about it

[sullen bronze]

Like a butter

[rapid wolf]

what are some decent cheap pcs

[humble token]

I assume airsoft?

[rapid wolf]

ya

[humble token]

how cheap?

[rapid wolf]

id prefer $100 or below

[humble token]

I think 5.11 or condor makes one

[rapid wolf]

its on evike right

[humble token]

probably

[rapid wolf]

cool ill take a look

[humble token]

oh hey

youtube recommended

google overlords listening in again

https://youtu.be/4QwDWBLLu1E

[rapid wolf]

they always listening

a buddy of mine told me he wanted to get raising canes and not an hour later he got an ad for them on yt

[humble token]

lol

if you're also building real kit

might even consider a good legit carrier

and just use it for a bit of both

[rapid wolf]

nah im just building airsoft kit

dont plan on getting into real steel

[humble token]

fair enough

[elder anchor]

Emerson gear are ok

Viper tactical are mid

A real PC holds value and will last you indefinitely removing the possibility for it to break and for you to be out of $90

I’d advise hunting eBay for surplus PCs or JPC 1.0s

If not then I’d honestly just say buy a BFG ten speed chest rig as opposed to a plate carrier

That or a ferro bank robber

[limber flame]

unobtanium gear dank robber

just a better bank robber

[elder anchor]

Never seen that before

Does look truly dank

[limber flame]

420 blaze it brah

[elder anchor]

[rapid wolf]

eh id rather not spend real pc money on something thats gonna be used for airsoft

[elder anchor]

Look at this way, RS stuff is objectively better in every way you can think of

You end up paying at most $50 more for something that holds its value and does it’s job better

[rapid wolf]

i do agree, but for things that i put on my gun

i wouldn’t necessarily get a rs eotech, but i would get a rs sling and qd attachment

[humble token]

could always get a spiritus micro rig

it's a modular system that lets you use a variety of kydex mag inserts to have positive retention on just about any kind of mag

and you can run it just as standalone rig

an expended system

or as a placard

also, it's intended as real kit

so it holds value really well, and is sturdy as hell

[humble token]

btw do you mean the condor rs carrier?

[limber flame]

RS as in real steel

(legit gear)

condor is considered real steel

but are absolutely dogshit
arguably worse than some airsoft quality stuff

[elder anchor]

Why not for gear?

[elder anchor]

Condor are just tragic

[humble token]

Generally speaking yes

[rapid wolf]

if i were to go rs for all of my stuff, i wouldnt have money for other things

gas is very expensive

rigs could be an option, but i want something more rigid

[elder anchor]

Well you’re already planning to spend around 100 on an airsoft rig

A little bit more money gets you a lot further with a legitimate rig/PC

[rapid wolf]

how much more

[elder anchor]

You can find JPC 1.0s state side for around 120-150

Which are exceptional plate carriers

[dapper elk]

Corny milsim

[honest meadow]

bois im wondering as i am doing a tagilla loadout but am not sure on whether to do the welding mask with some cardboard or actually go out and get the mask beacause all the ones that you can buy that are the correct ones are in the US and have like 40 dollar shipping ontop of the 40 for it

[dapper elk]

Idc

Corn ball

[honest meadow]

cool

[honest meadow]

👍🏽

[dapper elk]

Corny milsim

[river bison]

@elder anchor lol finally I got my hands on a TM MP7 with an HPA engine

[humble token]

kydex inserts for mag inserts do wonders

[humble token]

could always just get the cheapest in kinda the right shape off amazon

and then paint, of course

[rapid wolf]

for the whole thing? or just the mag inserts

i want to put in fake plates so that the whole thing is solid

and what i meant by spending $100 is that its max 100 im willing to spend

[humble token]

How many mags you need?

And what kind of mag?

[humble token]

Little bit of both

[rapid wolf]

4 total, lm4 mags

[humble token]

Wouldn't be as rigid as a hard plate

But buying a carrier would require you get seperate mag holders

[limber flame]

not necessarily

again
a JPC 1.0 has a built in kangaroo pouch

[humble token]

But that's also already he over budget

Also, with a traditional carrier these days, unless you're going double deep, or run side pouches 3 mags is pretty normal

[rapid wolf]

maybe ill just get mag holders for my belt then

[humble token]

Depends on how many you want to run

[rapid wolf]

i wanna have 3 extra

but id prolly have to put 2 on my left and 1 on my right cuz of how heavy they are

[humble token]

Reloading off a belt with the mag on your non-dominant side is ass

[rapid wolf]

why so

[humble token]

Grabbing a mag off your left hip with your left hand has your palm towards your body

With a noce short reach

[rapid wolf]

i still dont get it

im comfortable with reloading my pistol from my left hip belt

i dont see why a rifle would be any different

[humble token]

Put an m4 mag in your back pockets, left and right

Both with your left hand

And take em out with your left hand

Then try it crouching, or prone

[humble token]

Also, you misunderstood what I meant

I think I mistyped, but I meant it sucks to cross draw

[slate leaf]

just got the mk47 mustant

[limber flame]

what is blud waffling about

its not cross drawing

https://youtube.com/shorts/HN058JPKDO0?feature=share

basic ass idea

will work better with the GBBR aswell

can depress the bolt release with your thumb as designed

[humble token]

Not once does he do the thing that I'm saying sucks

[limber flame]

youre making no sense

dont reload with the mag on the right

admin load with it

replace an expended mag that you reindexed

[slate leaf]

i just get my other gun

like if im out on my m4 i switch 2 my other m4

[limber flame]

i carry a spare mag on my right

[slate leaf]

or my mutant

[limber flame]

what

[humble token]

Are you right handed?

[limber flame]

yes

reload from your weak side belt
swap mags around with your rig and backup mags

[humble token]

Ah, so inefficient, uncomfortable, and time consuming

[limber flame]

whatever you say

practice and train with your kit and nothing is slow

because you learn what is

then adapt

[frozen raven]

Working on a 90/2000’s US army kit

[rapid wolf]

i just tried this, i have no problem reloading from my right hip after sticking the mag in my belt to see how it would feel

theres no reason for me to try sticking a mag into my right back pocket bcuz its a lot further than how i would place the mag on my hip

although it is possible for me if i needed to for whatever reason

and as for my left hip it feels super natural still

also i wanna get a dump pouch so whenever i need to grab a mag from my right hip i can just drop it into there and grab a new mag from my right hip without needing to worry about reindexing at that moment

[humble token]

Training can make a shit setup less shit

[limber flame]

because you learn that the shit setup is shit and you change things