airsoft

[primal turret]

real

[elder anchor]

gym

[primal turret]

kinda expensive

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doesnt matter

[primal turret]

does

i kinda cant earn money

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why not

[primal turret]

cant get a job

[elder anchor]

is that a hard and fast "cant"

[primal turret]

no im like not old enough lol

[elder anchor]

pub

glass collector

sorted

if your parents can buy you a 417 then can also get you to go gym

[limber flame]

or easier fix
just lift shit

do push ups and that

i really need to get back into doing that stuff again

[elder anchor]

Lift a microwave until you can throw it 15m

Get fit quick tips be like

Lid update

[limber flame]

unity SARA and mounts

stupidly expensive

lid goes really fucking hard though

[alpine oxide]

Tactical zip ties

[limber flame]

cant go wrong with em

[crystal rover]

the gun that i sold got stolen in shipping

dude wants his money back

and i have already spent it

[limber flame]

L tbh

cant beat shipping yoinking shit

[elder anchor]

shipping authorities fault not yours

[humble token]

so close to good drip

and yet so far

[alpine oxide]

My single biggest fear, did you use G&S?

[crystal rover]

G&S?

[humble token]

goods and services

[crystal rover]

Ah

I believe so

[ruby pollen]

thoughts?

[brittle marlin]

Has anyone gotten the new version of 6b47 helmet from grey shop? If so I’d love to be able to see what it looks like before ordering one myself

[oblique laurel]

I have prepared to sink money into building my hi-capa

And then put a holosun red dot on it maybe

[elder anchor]

Amazon airsoft gear<<

[muted bloom]

i hope you have bought a decent aeg before spending money on this garbage

you really don't need a helmet for airsoft unless you are going for a certain look

[oblique laurel]

what gun are you running first

[muted bloom]

probably a lancer

[oblique laurel]

and what kind of airsoft are you doing

[muted bloom]

as far as i am aware, amazon airsofters usually make the mistake of buying a lancer

[oblique laurel]

I used to play IPSC so I wanna ask first

that and I prefer pistols

[muted bloom]

yea i have a hi capa that i have sunk quite a bit of money in too

[oblique laurel]

I am preparing to start upgrading mine

starting with probably a new slide, upper frame and extended slide release

[muted bloom]

the nozzle is kinda fucked up so i need to change it at some point, but it's still too cold to even use mine so i have no rush to do so

[oblique laurel]

I see

[muted bloom]

if it's a TM then yeah get a new slide

[oblique laurel]

pistols are great, they're more intimate and the manual of arms is closer to the real deal

[muted bloom]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1085020567662514276/1087074815602597940/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_3122b2c9-ef5c-4268-aa01-7f8546e9f2ce.jpg

[muted bloom]

it looks like this

[oblique laurel]

stock grips?

[muted bloom]

yeah

[oblique laurel]

nice

[muted bloom]

it's the stainless model, bought it used from some dude for pretty cheap, that explains the fucked up nozzle

[oblique laurel]

my thumb is not super long so I'll probably get an extended slide release

[muted bloom]

yea same, but i don't bother doing so

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1085020567662514276/1087073680472952843/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_881d3fce-dfe7-4f39-91eb-2507b7bba0be.jpg

[oblique laurel]

I think I also need a more powerful recoil spring

it doesn't always return to battery properly

[limber flame]

thats normally an issue of not cleaning/lubricating properly

wipe down every surface with rubbing alcohol to make sure its completely clean then apply silicone grease to parts that are in contact with other parts and springs

but only a very fine coat

should just be able to see it

[muted bloom]

on a stock plastic slide?

[oblique laurel]

I'm gonna buy a new metal slide anyway

[hybrid vapor]

Made in heaven

[primal turret]

💪

not a 417 but still

[hybrid vapor]

Nah i prefer the 416 for cqb

[primal turret]

416 is rather attractive

either way

[hybrid vapor]

This is going to be fully custom

Aprox a GATE titan upgrade, and maybe a custom paint

Feel really sad cause i wanted it in tan color

[primal turret]

oh my god

tan 416's go so hard

[hybrid vapor]

Marks are actually good

[primal turret]

tbh next ill either get a MK18, 416 or more high range scope

[primal turret]

i'd like the get the gbb varient tbh

its just

£650

[hybrid vapor]

I got mine for 510€

[primal turret]

uk inflation

[elder anchor]

416s<

[oblique laurel]

I wonder

Is it worth dropping money to upgrade a Hi-capa Vs buying an AEG or even GBBR

I want to do hi capa more because it's a pistol and much more space efficient but I could use second opinions

[hybrid vapor]

You mean hi-capa 5.1 or what you have in mind

[oblique laurel]

Yeah I have a stock TM 5.1

[hybrid vapor]

For real TM 5.1 is so good for upgrades

You have million options

[oblique laurel]

That and I just like pistols

[hybrid vapor]

Go for it, i was upgrading mine too

You clearly have a good pistol for years

[oblique laurel]

I have a small local IPSC club

But I'll probably go for simpler upgrades

Like a lightweight optics cut slide

Not the crazy slide racking lever and frame mounted optics rail

so that if I want to feel irresponsible I can buy a holosun to put onto it

[elder anchor]

no

[humble token]

real hk guns kinda suck

hope the airsoft ones are alright

[oblique laurel]

Wait they suck how

[humble token]

how many hk guns can you think of off the top of your head?

[oblique laurel]

about a dozen

[humble token]

all of them have varying issues

many were a great design, for the time

but are very outdated

just about any gun HK makes that has big hype has a better alternative now

or even has had a better alternative for years

[oblique laurel]

Airsoft should be fine then it's just a shell

[humble token]

yeah, depending on which reproduction it'll still carry over a lot of downsides sometimes

but mostly fine

a number of hk guns are really heavy and nigh impossible to modernize

so slapping all the attachments on them you want can be quite a bitch

[oblique laurel]

Is it because they use more steel than others

Aside from inherent design issues

[humble token]

it's because they have to use more steel than others in the real world guns

because of the design issues

a bunch of hk guns are designed in a way that requires weight in order for the gun to function right, lmao

reproduction wise you can likely get away with more polymer for sure

[oblique laurel]

I can't speak of their flaws ofc but uhh, I take it that the only good ones are because they created the niche that the gun is good for?

[humble token]

ummm

not really

the "good" hk guns that still worth using are kinda like an alternate design to an existing gun

like the 416 is a short stroke piston version of an m16

[oblique laurel]

It's kinda weird that the MP7 is supposed to be a cheap "give it to everyone" gun and HK being HK somehow added a layer of myth on top of it

Either that or the idea of the PDW is stupid, I don't know

[humble token]

mp7 is the closest thing they probably have to a "this is the best option"

[humble token]

both

4.7 as a caliber was good

not as much so now

so it falls into the same category as most other pdw and smgs

[oblique laurel]

Because we can just use things like the Mk 18 and the AKS-74U instead?

[humble token]

because we can use things that actually go through modern armor

[oblique laurel]

So a rifle Lawl

[humble token]

pretty much

the mythical "small caliber with armor penetration" doesn't really exist

[oblique laurel]

So the AKS-74U is the first and still the best PDW

because it's a rifle

[humble token]

ummm, kinda

it's still an ak, which has it's own downsides

but aks are still a very good design

plus you start getting into a yelling fight when you start trying to label "first" on things

lol

[oblique laurel]

Um acktchually the M1 carbine is the first one

[humble token]

gotta go older than that

lol

[oblique laurel]

Older lever action designs?

[muted bloom]

yea the aks-74u doesn't have that great penetration but no pdw really does, but due to the short barrel the bullet does extra wacky flesh damage for some reason

5.45 is kinda crazy

[humble token]

it tumbles at a faster rate

[muted bloom]

yeah

poison bullets

[humble token]

and spins faster as well, because the aks-74u has a faster twist rate than traditional aks

[oblique laurel]

You'll probably still get better armour penetration with dedicated AP loads than an MP7 or P90 right

[humble token]

it really falls into semantics, I'd rather not jump down that rabbit hole

[oblique laurel]

If you can somehow get your hands on some PPBS for example

[humble token]

likely yeah

it's an intermediate cartridge

instead of a pistol cartridge

[oblique laurel]

Russia's solution to the problem is more funny

Just make a super +P load for 9x19

[humble token]

well given that's what a majority of the rest of the world is also kinda doing

it's not that dumb

the dumb part is think it'll work all that well

[muted bloom]

i don't think i've seen anyone use those russian smgs in any of the footage fsb releases though

[oblique laurel]

Armchair general-ing aside I'm about to go into the rabbit hole of hi capas

So that's fun

[muted bloom]

they make all these cool smgs for law enforcement, then don't use them, from what i've seen, the fsb mostly uses zenit fucked ak105s and stuff like that

[humble token]

zenitco sucks

[oblique laurel]

Because rifles hit harder I guess

[muted bloom]

if you find spending hundreds of dollars, and a bunch of more on import tax, then yea it's fun

[humble token]

zenitco sucks

[oblique laurel]

I think SMGs were only really only that prevalent before we found out how to make short ARs hit hard

[humble token]

pretty much

[muted bloom]

zenitco looks cool though

[humble token]

some parts do

most are large, clunky, blocky, and heavy

and not to mention cheaply made, out of cheap materials, with a very cheap finish

[muted bloom]

you see, heavy means less recoil, and those guys are usually trained to be pretty strong

[humble token]

SMGs and PDWs are basically replaced by SBRs

[oblique laurel]

would building my hi capa into a staccato lookalike be good?

[humble token]

they also glow in the dark

[oblique laurel]

I don't really want to go to race gun aesthetic

[muted bloom]

and not like they need to use it for large periods, just kick some poor dude's door and yell at them or shoot them

[elder anchor]

pointless gun

[oblique laurel]

so like a simpler optics cut slide

[elder anchor]

why bother changing the whole operating system for added weight and a little tincey wincey bit of reliability

[humble token]

short stroke piston is fine

there's just better instances of it now

416 is dated

[muted bloom]

SVR is the Russia's CIA though

[elder anchor]

short stroke piston is good when you dont have a buffer tube to boot

E.G MCX

actually takes advantage of what you can do with it

[muted bloom]

mcx is sig, it's not fine

sig is never fine

[humble token]

you wanna be glowing bright green when you go fight the opposing spec-ops force at night?

[humble token]

exactly

416 is dated

better products exist

[elder anchor]

lol who hurt you

[elder anchor]

...M4s...

[humble token]

the ar platform is not flawless

[elder anchor]

better than a 416

[muted bloom]

nah FSB usually fights against civilians and terrorists

[elder anchor]

and most of all other guns

[humble token]

but it's really reeeeaally hard to out strip it's performance and capabilities

and modularity

and pricing

and reliability

[elder anchor]

its a light cheap modular durable reliable gun

literally about as good as it gets

some might argue its caliber is a set back but...

[humble token]

still pretty shit furniture though

[muted bloom]

eh, looks cool

[humble token]

that's also modular within the ar platform at this point

[elder anchor]

those are people who judge being shot by numbers on a data sheet

[humble token]

lol

[elder anchor]

yeah true

[limber flame]

if you care about IR performance of your gun youre spraypainting it anyways

[humble token]

if you care about ir performance you're not running shit furniture to begin with

if you wind up in a world where you need that

you're using ride or die gear

[elder anchor]

pretend like zenit is shit AK furniture lol

[muted bloom]

yea in most cases you see them spray painted to tan or brown

[limber flame]

its arguably the best on the market for what it does lmao

[humble token]

which is?

[elder anchor]

zenitco

[humble token]

adding weight?

[limber flame]

be a solid mounting platform for optics lights and lasers

if weight is an issue youre a pussy tbf

[elder anchor]

youre adding shit of course youre adding weight tf?

[humble token]

so the slr then?

[limber flame]

its really not that heavy

go ask neko about heavy

[elder anchor]

"ounces make pounds dude"

[limber flame]

with her 14lb carbine

[humble token]

neko c grips an ARMS ar

[limber flame]

im a high speed operator bro you wouldnt get it

[humble token]

that doesn't count

[limber flame]

her arms are literally noodles lmao

[elder anchor]

you aint know what high speed is little buddy

i am speed

[limber flame]

high sped

[muted bloom]

high speed is when you shit your pants

[humble token]

there's nothing I'd want zenitco furniture for

[elder anchor]

yeah but... why

[muted bloom]

they look cool

[humble token]

cus there's better options

[limber flame]

mind if you list them please?

[humble token]

again, some of there stuff

[humble token]

slr

[elder anchor]

right and hows it better

cause mlok?

[limber flame]

1 handguard

[muted bloom]

are you the kind of person that looks at a thompson submachine gun and says there are better options

[limber flame]

one handguard

[humble token]

cus free floating, non-bloated with better construction for a cheaper price and better finish

[elder anchor]

lol like zenit doesnt do that

[limber flame]

zenit is a conjunction of parts

[elder anchor]

the price bit is a consequence of the war

[limber flame]

all made to work together

[elder anchor]

and free float does not equal better

[humble token]

the price bit has always existed

zenitco has always been price inflated

[limber flame]

shturman legoshi is still finding ways to get RS zenit for 150 ish as a set

im gonna go up to scotland and beat his ass

[elder anchor]

lol tf

il buy it off him for 200

[humble token]

that boy has connections

[limber flame]

he sure does

mf got a flir breach for like
stupid cheap

i need to know who he knows

[humble token]

for the purposes of a handguard it kinda does

[elder anchor]

legit?

what the fuck

[limber flame]

yes

[elder anchor]

how so

especially on an AK

[humble token]

do you know what the purpose of a free floating handguard is?

[limber flame]

and adding onto the zenitco stuff
the b33 is the most solid optics mounting platform for aks

3 points of contact

[elder anchor]

accuracy, maybe a little heat reduction

[humble token]

it's not the only company that does that I believe, but I won't argue it is solid

[limber flame]

ak barrel harmonics arent great with free float handguards anyways
unless you get one with that in mind

[limber flame]

theyre the one that makes the most solid
others also do a good job though

[humble token]

then if you could have a handguard that only gives you benefits, for a better price than the alternative

[humble token]

the most solid is a chassis swap

but that's also cheating

[elder anchor]

it applies less so to the AK platform.

[limber flame]

thats a copmplete new system though

yeah

SAG mk3 kinda a little bonkers

[elder anchor]

a little

[humble token]

I think it still using the same piston, trunnion, and bolt as stock

so I wouldn't say complete new system

but close

[elder anchor]

the gas tube on AKs basically means you cant truly free float a handguard

[humble token]

sorta

it can be done

[elder anchor]

so why not just get a really really really solid handguard that isnt going to affect your accuracy anyway

e.g

[oblique laurel]

isn't the AK-12 handguard free float

[humble token]

that is also what the slr is

[humble token]

it tried to be

[elder anchor]

so its not free float

[humble token]

the slr is free floating

but also very solid

I have never heard of one breaking down, or losing zero

and people beat the shit of their aks

[elder anchor]

right and which special forces groups are using the slr platform then?

where has it been combat tested

who is using it

[limber flame]

the only benefit i see out of the SLR over the zenit minus price is that it doesnt have 4 million screws

[elder anchor]

and mlok

[limber flame]

and mlok

but

pic > anything else

[oblique laurel]

zenit has their own basis rail I think

[humble token]

lol, nobody uses the ak platform in a spec ops position unless they're in their own little world anyways

[elder anchor]

russia

[limber flame]

most eastern forces that use the AK do

unless its an already modified version

[humble token]

not for spec ops

to my knowledge anyways

[limber flame]

im pretty sure zenit was popularised by SOF

[oblique laurel]

the basis rail is pretty similar to M-LOK in concept

basically same thing

[elder anchor]

it was

[limber flame]

and the whole alpha ak concept

a lot of chechens in ukraine were using it

[humble token]

so russians?

[limber flame]

mhm

using a B30 + B31 combo with a B33 on their 105 in training

[elder anchor]

russians who would use SLR rails if they were any better

[limber flame]

also add to the fact that its an american company

[elder anchor]

they would still sell them

[humble token]

they wouldn't cus that'd be an import

[oblique laurel]

is that not a CTR lol

[limber flame]

they buy FAB defence and magpul a lot

[elder anchor]

we gonna pretend like there isnt an L3 product on top of that guys gun

[oblique laurel]

that clearly looks like western stuff on the gun

[limber flame]

ex L3
thats en exps
iirc they left L3 before they made the exps series

[elder anchor]

forgot about that

either way

american company

[humble token]

I'll back down on that point to a degree

but I still tend to believe the russian masses are heavily biased if a russian option exists

cus they've been told for decades that's what they're supposed to do

[oblique laurel]

Maybe SOF being SOF they have more leeway to buy what they need rather than what is more politically correct

[limber flame]

sport kits on the ak12 on spetsnaz units in kherson

and thats not a wagner patch btw

just looks like it

[humble token]

their smaller handguards are probably their more attractive ones

[limber flame]

their sport kits are swag tbf

[oblique laurel]

I mean yeah zenitco makes basis only handguards

It's basically like running quad rail shit or M-LOK shit

[limber flame]

for any mods that see this
this is non political and only for reference

(i dont want to get banned)

[oblique laurel]

They also make a sport kit and looks very much like B-30 and B-31

Except it's basis rail only

[limber flame]

yeah

the sport kits are the basis only

[humble token]

I also generally don't like plain handguards that go the full length of an ak barrel either though

[limber flame]

theyre great for lasers and flashlights

[oblique laurel]

Then they make B-10s for short ones

Same stuff

[limber flame]

since you normally want them as far farwards as you can

[oblique laurel]

12 o'clock rail for lasers

[limber flame]

lasers not entirely but it helps

given how dirty perst lasers tend to be

[humble token]

the 12 oclock thing for lasers is an ar carry over

not a bad idea still

[limber flame]

12 o'clock is generally preferred though tbf

[humble token]

but it's a bigger deal on ars

[limber flame]

keeps it out the way

[oblique laurel]

I don't want to pretend to know how their products are like but they also don't look like a super rigid company that cannot adapt to modern needs

They're not stupid

[limber flame]

and most optics can see over them now anyways

[humble token]

zenitco?

[oblique laurel]

Yeah

[humble token]

they've been making pretty much the same handguards for 25 years

[limber flame]

id say if it aint broke dont fix it

but theyve been altering em a good bit

[oblique laurel]

Yeah make the same handguard except cut holes in it like M-LOK

[limber flame]

lightening them with the sport lines

[humble token]

you gonna tell the same thing to eotech, aimpoint, and trijicon?

[oblique laurel]

same stuff

[limber flame]

theyre tried and true

aimpoint is kinda changing things up a lil

[humble token]

and overpriced, and old

[limber flame]

trijicon is stuck in the past

eotech is well

eotech

[humble token]

they're all stuck in the past

[limber flame]

and far too expensive

[oblique laurel]

Aimpoint has to because Holosun is knocking on their door

[limber flame]

but they all work really well

[humble token]

eotech hasn't had a "new" design since the 80s

[limber flame]

holosun is kinda bonkers with their newer stuff

[low umbra]

😩

[limber flame]

its definitely catching up

[humble token]

trijicon has always had problems, and is being surpassed in the civilian

let alone military

[limber flame]

last time aimpoint tried to make something different it kinda was shit

muh acro

[humble token]

they make 3 good sights

and that's all they sell

[oblique laurel]

If my funds allow it I will put a holosun onto my hi-capa eventually

I don't want to buy Airsoft optics

[humble token]

make sure you invest in optic protection then

[oblique laurel]

And I'm Chinese so I might as well support Holosun

[humble token]

lose a $300 optic to a 6 cent bb

[oblique laurel]

Perhaps, I don't know if IPSC requires that though

[humble token]

wanna gamble it do you?

[oblique laurel]

Fair

Yeah it's an eventuality anyway

I'll focus on planning my gun out first

[humble token]

optics are almost completely un needed in airsoft

[oblique laurel]

Holosun will probably have new optics by then anyway

[humble token]

the biggest point to having a fancy optic on an airsoft gun

is if you're cloning your kit gun

for training purposes

[oblique laurel]

It's really just that optics are a different division in IPSC

[limber flame]

i use my optics a lot in airsoft

[oblique laurel]

you have standard and open

standard is iron sights only

[limber flame]

get good ones and work with it and its fine

[oblique laurel]

Open division is optics

[low umbra]

bro almost everything in airsoft is for cosmetic purposes only

[oblique laurel]

Typically you'd use a frame mount for a red dot

[humble token]

or training

[oblique laurel]

But I don't really want to do that so I want a slide mounted red dot

[limber flame]

cut out a sheet of lexan or polycarbonate and put a tiny dab of glue on the bottom

better than the rail mounted ones

[humble token]

you can put a lil more effort than that

[low umbra]

if you want performance get the smallest pistol ever with as much capacity as possible and as high rpm as possible

[limber flame]

in what way

[low umbra]

doesn't even have to be shape of a pistol it could be a fuckint triangle that shoots

[limber flame]

aap01 moment

[oblique laurel]

You only really use hi-capas for IPSC

No machine pistols

[limber flame]

are you actually shooting people?

[oblique laurel]

No lol, it's just paper targets

[limber flame]

if not
you dont need a protector

[oblique laurel]

It's competition shooting

[humble token]

I would personally use a second manner of adhesion

likely friction, depending on the optic

[oblique laurel]

It's not Airsoft wars or anything like that

It's also why people still buy and use dinosaurs like the C-more

[low umbra]

it's a larp to begin with

[humble token]

larping comes first

[limber flame]

tbf if you get a solid optic a bb isnt gonna break it

[oblique laurel]

Because you don't need anything more than a C-more for competition shooting

[limber flame]

ive had my vortex eat a burst near point blank

[low umbra]

💀

[humble token]

aren't those overpriced?

[limber flame]

lightweight and massive window

[oblique laurel]

They're good for what they do

[humble token]

valid

[oblique laurel]

It's a huge window

[humble token]

how much are they again?

[oblique laurel]

I think 300

[humble token]

eh, I'd rather just get a holosun

but if I did comps

I would consider it

[oblique laurel]

We have Airsoft versions but my cousin has a real C-more

[humble token]

I thionk they have hotswappable emittors too

[oblique laurel]

Honestly while I'm building my gun for competition shooting I still want a more practical look to it so optics cut slide and such

It's just for fun

So it doesn't matter

[low umbra]

yea that's what i meant

it's all cosmetic

[humble token]

or training

some people take some stuff serious

[low umbra]

or training

[oblique laurel]

And I don't actually have to put an optic on an optics cut slide

Which is the best part

I can just shoot with irons it's a lot of fun

[humble token]

if you can lower 1/3 cowitness it's the best of both worlds

without having to take it off all the time

but you probably knew that already

[oblique laurel]

Yea

I'm planning to sort of do it like this

It's a real carry gun

But build it in airsoft

[humble token]

I should get an airsoft canik mete sf

or the closest to it

[oblique laurel]

I'm wondering if I should just convert mine to a 4.3

I have a 5.1 and it's pretty huge

[humble token]

if you're refering to bb size start large diameter for competitive stuff

[oblique laurel]

nah it's the barrel length

5.1 has more market support but it's also a good bit longer

this is the race gun version

[honest meadow]

fucking hell just looked through all the messages of u guys arguing about zenitco

[oblique laurel]

@humble token holosun pistol sights use the RMR pattern right?

[humble token]

I think so

Just your research

I need sleep

[oblique laurel]

alright good night

[tulip plinth]

anyone know a beginner setup for airsoft

i got a budget of like 500-600

[slate jay]

Just got a new ak

Witch means more mag for the pile4

[crystal rover]

Jesus

[honest meadow]

brand?

[slate jay]

Lct 😎

[honest meadow]

nice

[hushed yoke]

lct midcaps

[honest meadow]

anyone know if the twi 45 rounders are decent mags?

[elder anchor]

risk it

why not

[limber flame]

apparently theyre solid

[brittle marlin]

Yeah, I got one for my LCT rpk they feel a lil cheap at times but they are a solid mag on a scale I’d give it a 7/10

It’s not where I want it to be but it’s p much the only genuine rpk style magazine that goes in mid cap

Only gripe is it takes some mental adjusting when your using them and going prone if you plan on putting them on a reg ak

[honest meadow]

dont really ever go prone and if i do im on my back covering some stairs at my lolcal indoor field but thanks for the insight i saw somewhere though that theyre actual 45 rnd mags converted are they or r they just replicas?

[brittle marlin]

They are the 45 round AK magazine that’s chambered in 5.45 I think they hold around 160 BBS

[honest meadow]

ik theyre supposed to be the rpk 74m mags but i saw some ppl saying they were actual mags that twi put airsoft parts into to replace the real internals

[brittle marlin]

Oh

Twi has two versions one being realistic

The realistic ones are only 45 rounds and they kinda suck

The others are the most common

Order them from evike

[honest meadow]

my bad if im phrasing this wrong but i mean they take real steel mags buy them get rid of the real magazine internals and replace them with airsoft internals

you getting what im saying?

[brittle marlin]

Nah Raptor doesn’t do that

[honest meadow]

ahh k

just seen some post somewhere saying that

my bad for phrasing it confusingly

[brittle marlin]

It’s no problem my English isn’t the best rn since I’m getting my kit together

[honest meadow]

ah kk

[river mural]

They work fairly well.

[oblique laurel]

I cannot tell if this is a real one

if not then which slide and frame

[honest meadow]

The mag fit but just didn't line up?

[honest meadow]

did u try filing it had to do it when i bought standard lct ak mags

[honest meadow]

it is real look at the mags behind it they have actual feed lips n stuff

[oblique laurel]

mmm ok

[honest meadow]

do u have a pic or nah?

i'd be getting the plum ones anyways

even just of the top

[limber flame]

fugg
i need a rpk

[honest meadow]

r.i.p

[slate leaf]

I think we all recognize this scav

[elder anchor]

I need an M27IAR

[low umbra]

fr

[river bison]

My fucking 416 style guns do not like EPM1’s

I learned this the hard way

During a skirmish

[elder anchor]

I don’t use expensive mags

Cheap mags are the future

I don’t wince when I throw them ten meters onto concrete

[river bison]

I started falling back on the plastic EF mid caps

Just because they don’t break

Also cheap

And reliable

[elder anchor]

Cheap and reliable

Love all that shit

Unless its expensive and cool

Anything along those lines is preferable

[humble token]

What's a cheap and reliable airsoft ak cost me?

[humble token]

That's pretty cheap

But I see varying prices

Would I be able to use standard akm pattern furniture on them?

I got some stuff lying around

[river bison]

man this scar SC HPA is a headache

This hopup setup is causing double feeds with the kythera

I’m about to take it all apart and test it with a N7 milsim to see if it works better

[elder anchor]

Cyma VFC models, the TM models are cheaper but shit

[hybrid vapor]

Need some scope recomendations for a DMR build for this beauty, i was thinking about a Vortex Optics Crossfire II SFP because i see a really budget option here but i accept suggestions.

Might i consider going for a Burris Ballistic Plex but is kinda the double price

[humble token]

monstrum makes cheap optics that are generally pretty tough

they're usually missing a lot of features compared to their fancy brethren, and can be a less than perfect purchase for an actual firearm

but I think they'd fall quite nicely into the airsoft realm

[timid flower]

Tm mtr-16

[elder anchor]

As far as good airsoft optics go, vector optics/holy warrior LPVOs are good, and for budget RS LPVOs you have sig

[honest meadow]

probs not ik u can with E&L but CYMA dont think so it would require quite a bit of modification

[crystal rover]

Wort it

[elder anchor]

Still not sure how I feel about the DNC kydex PC

[crystal rover]

Meh

[west vortex]

ive got an OneSine 32x20 magnifed marksmens optic that might work on it, whats the barrel length + is it HPA Gas or AEG

[late rover]

Hk416

[river bison]

This fixed it

Apparently kythera didn’t work well for this so I switched it to a redline

[crystal rover]

Lmao

[river bison]

It works beautifully

The only thing I hate is the redline’s plunger sound

[crystal rover]

I am at a bst meet

I haven’t sold shit

[honest meadow]

average bst meet experience

[honest meadow]

cappy with tha blappy

[honest meadow]

get kneepads pls for the love of god

[eternal kindle]

Those are my knees pads they work for me

[alpine oxide]

Few things I don’t like such as the gas mask and medical stuff but I see the appeal, I think you can probably swap them out for more practical things in Airsoft like a radio pouch (if you run that) or a dump pouch at least but besides my opinion it’s still a cool loadout 👍

Gas masks are cool why not I guess 🤷‍♂️ if it’s for irl purposes tho I can’t really comment, I just hope you’re medically trained 😂

[humble token]

the worst piece of any kit, is the piece you don't train with

[alpine oxide]

I mean I hope no one trains with Airsoft 😅

[humble token]

I hope lots of people train with airsoft

can you think of many other instances in which you get to work with your normal kit for an extended period of time with and against other people?

and not have the police called on you?

[alpine oxide]

There’s many places that offer training in a safe environment and offer REAL situations that you could be in. Regardless it’s a difference in opinion man

[wise kestrel]

You should not be using what looks like an outdated gas mask for real life purposes

[humble token]

most people should use airsoft to train

just never use exclusively airsoft to train

that is when it becomes a bad idea, lol

[wise kestrel]

I'll take your word for it

[humble token]

personally I'd use a mask with a non-dominant side can bias

or support for belt mounted filter

see if you can use a tube filter or whatever

moves the filter off the mask

so can a rifle sling, or a number of other things

unless you're running specifically low drag

I wouldn't worry too much about it

in a perfect world I'd have two

but masks are expensive

[wise kestrel]

Chances are if you need a gas mask you need a MOP suit anyways

[humble token]

and I'm not made of money

[wise kestrel]

Definitely a cool factor if like that kind of stuff though

[humble token]

most likely instance you'd use one for is eye irritants

like tear gas

[wise kestrel]

Fair enough

[humble token]

or smoke, from fires and/or ordinance

[wise kestrel]

You wouldn't want for smoke as carcinogens require different filters than chemical vapor

Obviously it's better than nothing but dont be a hero and try to get near a fire

[humble token]

there are combination filters that are good for both

more expensive mind you

but they exist

plus filter changing from chem to smoke is easy

[wise kestrel]

Yea filter changing ain't the problem, I assume most people who buy masks for cool factors only have a chemical filter or some nonfunctional filter

Also some masks aren't made with direct smoke and heat to the visor in mind

[humble token]

yeah, regardless of how good the filter is

wading through a fire is a bad idea

unless you're a fire fighter

then it's still a bad idea

it's just your job then too

[alpine oxide]

I’m a man and prefer my filters with asbestos

Adds character

[humble token]

and cancer

[alpine oxide]

Always curious on how to upgrade the kit so if anyone got ideas lemme know

[humble token]

for airsoft specifically, or in general?

[alpine oxide]

Airsoft specifically I guess 🤷‍♂️ however I’ll take any criticism I’m curious man

[humble token]

got a hydration pack?

[alpine oxide]

I do not, however that would add a bit of weight to my rig 😂

[humble token]

not necessarily

all you gotta do is add a water bottle pouch on your hand panel, and then run something like this

https://www.amazon.com/Source-Tactical-Convertube-Bottle-Adapter/dp/B00W9O2Q0W

so you can kinda run whatever water bottle you want

and even run an in line water filter if you wanted

beyond that, you could upgrade your coms, maybe add a tear-away kit, zipties, and gaffer's tape

plus a bitdriver, and a pair of pliers always has a home in any kit really

and if you wanted to get fancy, you could upgrade your cummerbund

[alpine oxide]

Good insight tbf, I won’t invest in hydration or tear away kits as I don’t really have a need for them 🤷‍♂️ i do actually love the idea of carrying some form of tool kit though. Also if you could recommend some comms alternatives that would be dope as I’ve never really looked into that in depth, just got whatever worked for a minimal price 😂

[humble token]

I assume that's a baofeng uv-5r?

[alpine oxide]

Yessir

[humble token]

for just a few dollars more (like 30-40) you can get a BAOFENG GT-3WP

which is kinda a straight upgrade

it's ip67 rated

so water proof

caveat being it doesn't use a kenwood connector

so you'll need a new mic

which you can also upgrade, lol

[humble token]

also this is only a kinda sorta problem

do you use an earpiece?

[alpine oxide]

Yeah that radio would deffo be a needed upgrade, bought the UV5R years ago and was never really impressed with it. But yeah it does look like I’ll need a new mic due to that connector but that’s not an issue if you got a decent brand to recommend. In terms of ear pieces I got sordins I run every now that I plug into the mic however I don’t have anything low profile when wearing a mask

[humble token]

if you run sordins, honestly upgrade your mask

there are a ton of headset compatible options out there

you can also still use kenwood plugs with this adapter https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YY3RKLM/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_6?smid=A39FQA149TJD8E&psc=1

do you have mic or non-mic sordins?

[alpine oxide]

They’re non mic, that’s why I use the speaker/mic

[humble token]

if you want a better mic, there's this guy https://defensedistributors.com/product/multimount-mic/

and they also sell compatible PTT on their site too

[alpine oxide]

Yeah that’s solid that pal, I didn’t think you could buy something to directly connect onto the headset

[humble token]

it's pretty smart tbh

and the mic uses a pretty standard PTT connector

so as long as you get right passive/active PTT

you can run any brand you want

[alpine oxide]

The sordins with the built in headset are like £300 more expensive so upgrading a £200ish headset for about £60 to have a mic is a steal 😂 It’s a dope idea if the mics are built well.

[humble token]

even if it's decent, it fits a niche

[alpine oxide]

I’ve been looking for a reason to upgrade my comms so ima look into everything you sent, solid recommendations thank you 🤙

[humble token]

also, use an antennae re-locater to move it to you back panel

[brittle marlin]

Common misconception with Ak magazines especially lct mags. It’s not that it doesn’t fit it’s that your putting it in incorrectly

Lct mags are designed specifically to eliminate the wobble factor hence the tight fit. All it takes is to play with them a bit and carefully understand how it goes in your airsoft gun

I’ve noticed people have a tendency to put the lip in too far causing the feeding tube to completely miss the magazine hole. Or another is it goes in slightly side ways to where the magazine won’t slide in right

(This isn’t all the time but a majority of cases I’ve seen at the field I work at)

[elder anchor]

I missed this

Don’t do that

[limber flame]

we've all been there tbf

[elder anchor]

We have

I wish to forget

[humble token]

I feel like there's a classy way to do a short video showing off kit

but it's not that

[elder anchor]

Oh absolutely

But it’s not that

Never will be that

[humble token]

lol

[limber flame]

generally
the one i see the most that doesn't look like shit is the MW2019 style ones

yk when you would rotate your operator

[glacial drift]

Airsofters when they don't flag everyone 50000 times while trying to record their cool kit showcase

[elder anchor]

You make the mistake of presuming airsofters have friends to flag

[elder anchor]

As long as your gear is cool then you cant be cringe

[honest meadow]

tactical banana

[slate leaf]

Got my gear mostly together (DEA SRT) suggestions welcome

[buoyant tundra]

Jack boots

[humble token]

hydration

[rapid wolf]

does anyone know how to get the grub screw out of a pts radian model 1

i cant for the life of me get it out so i can unscrew the orange flash hider

[slate leaf]

I’ve thought about adding some form of hydration, any specific types of hydration pack in mind?
(Currently running fake plates and a slick back)

[humble token]

add a water bottle pouch on your back, and then an adapter to hydration tube

lets you run whatever bottle you want pretty much

so you can scale up, or down

depends on match length and field size

[slate leaf]

I’ll look into that

[slate leaf]

I play at an outdoor field, wooded environment and where I live it’s pretty hot most all year around.
I also didn’t mention but I run weighted plates so water would probably be beneficial

[humble token]

swap your cummerbunds too then

something that breathes more, and has a quick detach

you're nopt currently using the molle by the looks of it

[slate leaf]

I use my left side molle, but I keep my right side slick so pouches don’t mess with my sidearm draw

[humble token]

what's on your left side?

[slate leaf]

Radio and a single mag pouch (mag pouch is mainly for the magazine I put in my rifle at the start of a game)

[humble token]

oh, you don't need those on the molle

[slate leaf]

Nah I could make it work with a different cummerbund probably

[humble token]

get a side ride or sidekick radio pouch

it attaches it to the side of the placard instead of the cummerbund

[slate leaf]

Gotcha I didn’t think of that

[humble token]

difference between the two is if it's in front or behind your cummerbund

usually people prefer it behind the cummerbund

particularly if you have a quick disconnect cummerbund

[slate leaf]

Right I’d probably run it that way

[humble token]

what's in the placard mag pouch on the left

[slate leaf]

Sorry I’m a little slow sometimes which mag pouch?

The ones with pistol mags on the front?

[humble token]

well I guess all of them

[slate leaf]

Oh I run mid caps in all the rifle mag pouches, (ares pmags) 1 in each fast mag pouch? (I think is what they are called) the ones with the pistol mag/utility pouches on them
In the pistol mag pouches I keep one spare mag and in the second a multi tool
To the right of those I keep 2 mags in the pouch with the Velcro flap
And then just one last magazine as explained earlier for my first mag I use during the game

[humble token]

for your mag pouch on the cummerbund you could either keep it there if you swap to a better cummerbund

cus elastic style ones have built in pouches, or you could get a hybrid style

or if you get one without a spot for the mag

you could have a side-ride pouch on the other side of your placard or swap the two pistol mag pouches for two rifle pouches

usually you can two pistol mags in one rifle pouch

not ideal, but it works alright

[slate leaf]

Gotcha I’ll consider a new cummerbund, Thankyou lots for the advice

I’m gonna be off for the night though

[humble token]

https://youtu.be/OkHwjok2azM

the convenience is immeasurable

[slate leaf]

Alrighty I’ll give that video a watch before going to sleep

[humble token]

they also make adapters to add quick-detach to existing ones

but it's not nearly as elegant

and winds up adding a lil weight instead of trimming some

[cerulean minnow]

This thing cost me 365k roubles

xD

[limber flame]

mfw bridged optic

shift the scope back
get both rings on the receiver

if you ain't get enough eye relief
extend the stock

[cerulean minnow]

problem is that im a small dude and the stock is already set to my comfort

[steep token]

where is that mutant from?

[cerulean minnow]

cyma, bought from taiwangun

also thx for the advice @limber flame :]

[limber flame]

np

[gray python]

seems sr47

[honest meadow]

some active earpro

[honest meadow]

bro pls get a mount to put the tape switch in

[cerulean minnow]

dw i will

[honest meadow]

and remove the rear iron sight u dont even have a front one on so no point

[cerulean minnow]

its just that i bought the laser yesterday

[honest meadow]

alr

[cerulean minnow]

i took the photo late in the night so i forgor

[honest meadow]

ah k

if u have a look wadsn do some nice tape switches so u can choose what u use the laser or the light thats built into the peq

[cerulean minnow]

cant wait to get back home from work to shoot it in the garden heheheh

[cerulean minnow]

it has ir laser, red laser and flashlight

[honest meadow]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004681923407.html?gps-id=pcStoreJustForYou&scm=1007.23125.137358.0&scm_id=1007.23125.137358.0&scm-url=1007.23125.137358.0&pvid=b7191858-c67f-4e88-ad20-7affb9139b54&_t=gps-id:pcStoreJustForYou,scm-url:1007.23125.137358.0,pvid:b7191858-c67f-4e88-ad20-7affb9139b54,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238115%232000&pdp_npi=3%40dis!GBP!28.48!28.48!!!!!%40211b5db316811671474865790e94a0!12000030083198394!rec!UK!&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.smartJustForYou_2002999589876.3have been looking at this but importing to the uk would look prty sus

[cerulean minnow]

but most likely just laser

[honest meadow]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SBGJMY-Tactical-Flashlight-Pressure-Scoutlight/dp/B09Z84WF5Z/ref=sr_1_5?crid=6F25FJSFY8PG&keywords=wadsn%2Bbutton&qid=1681221919&sprefix=wadsn%2Bbutton%2Caps%2C85&sr=8-5&th=1

[honest meadow]

smth like this would work

[cerulean minnow]

yes please

thats exactly what i needed xD

[honest meadow]

they also have smth called the hot button

[cerulean minnow]

which is?

[honest meadow]

bolts straight to ur mlok

[cerulean minnow]

oooh noice

me likey

[honest meadow]

but anyways id recommend u ditch the thumb stop if ur gonna use the peq and if u look around on airsoft sights or even aliexpress u could find some nicer scope mounts

[cerulean minnow]

i was planning on leaving the thumb stop since i have a little bit of thumb that i can use to reach out to press something

when i had the other flashlight it was comfortable

[honest meadow]

its just preference but play around with it on and off and see what u prefer

[cerulean minnow]

ye

will send a picture later when i change where each thing is placed

also i need a battery for the an peq since it came with none

[honest meadow]

bruh

[cerulean minnow]

noice m4

[honest meadow]

cummod

[strange forge]

Stop bullying my hand guard

[honest meadow]

penismod

[strange forge]

Key mod is gaming

[cerulean minnow]

gaymod

[strange forge]

It’s a Seekins hand guard

https://seekinsprecision.com/sp3rv3-mod-rail-16.html

[honest meadow]

i love gayselle

[strange forge]

Is it real steel tho

[honest meadow]

nah

[strange forge]

The one I have is real steel so extra drip

[honest meadow]

noone but kong and izarumi have that dilla dolla

[honest meadow]

still penismod

m-cock is better

[strange forge]

A lot of good gun systems have key mod

[honest meadow]

m-cock

[honest meadow]

nothing beats good 'ol ductape and a dream

[limber flame]

dickmod bad

stinky

smelly

[strange forge]

Shut up

[limber flame]

no
peenmod cring

[strange forge]

It’s a extremely good hand guard

[limber flame]

mlok better

and pic even better

[strange forge]

It’s a Seekins hand guard so I’m gaming

[limber flame]

should've got the mlok

[steep token]

does it feel good in hand? when i looked at them they were worryingly cheap

[crystal rover]

Goofy ah image

[low umbra]

pretty cool actually

[cerulean minnow]

totally does

you have to get used to reloading an ar15 in an ak way

but otherwise its cool af

[steep token]

i usually play aks so i should be fine but thanks i might consider getting one

[cerulean minnow]

mine was 120~ euro

plus attatchments shown would be 400~

mine has a custom pistol grip btw, but that was only 10 euro

https://www.taiwangun.com/es/fusil-de-asalto-aeg/replica-cm-650b-edicion-mosfet-negro-cyma-3

[steep token]

https://www.taiwangun.com/assault-rifle-aeg/cm-650b-mosfet-edition-black-cyma-3

[cerulean minnow]

sorry if its in spanish XD

[steep token]

im looking at it rn

[cerulean minnow]

damn that was some timing

btw bare in mind it uses T conector batteries

[steep token]

is this the green ones?

the funky looking green connectors

[cerulean minnow]

uhhh

lemme get a picture

this type connector

which essentially connects to this

[slate leaf]

I’m running earmor m32’s (I think they’re the m32’s) right now

[crystal rover]

That’s called deans

[elder anchor]

when I say it’s a good idea to sell them to some kid and buy some actual earpro, I mean it

M32s don’t protect your hearing, are incredibly easy to break and look goofy as fuck

[crystal rover]

Walker razors are based

[slate leaf]

True I bought them a little while back, didn’t want to spend too much on ear pro at the time

[elder anchor]

Yeah try your best to get your money back and grab some walkers/sordins

Money back as in sale on the used market

The best value for money headset on the market right now is the comtac XPIs with the comms suite

[slate leaf]

How would you suggest mounting them to my helmet?

[slate leaf]

How much do those run if you know?

[elder anchor]

Cheaper walkers can be between 70 and 100

Sordin basics are 150 new

But because people end up wanting comms they come up on the used market loads

Sordins with comms are around 300

And the Comtac XPIs are around 400 new, but they are the best headset out of the bunch and give you the most options as far as comms and mounting options go

[elder anchor]

There are loads of mounts online, only one you might struggle with is the sordins

[slate leaf]

I would prefer to have something with comms

[elder anchor]

Took me a lot of time and effort to get this down

[elder anchor]

So just not the sordin basics then

[slate leaf]

Cool so the other ones you mentioned have comms

[elder anchor]

Yeah, other than some of the cheaper walkers

But it’s obvious whether they do or don’t

[slate leaf]

Yeah

Would I need to buy a new PTT?

[elder anchor]

It depends what kid of aux input the headset has

What radio are you using?

UV5R?

[slate leaf]

Yeah

[limber flame]

the newer sordins have an aux jack on the back iirc

plug em into a shoulder mic
audio goes through your headset

speak through the mic

[elder anchor]

There are plenty of PTTs boafengs extremely cheap anyway

Only expensive ones are the earmor one for whatever reason

[elder anchor]

Basically any of the supreme X pros

[slate leaf]

Oh alright I’ll have to look into that

Aside from ear pro is there anything else with the kit you think could be improved?

[honest meadow]

idk maybe an ifak and if u get one some training on using it

[slate leaf]

Yeah I was actually wanting to buy a small ifak, any suggestions on mounting it?

Also I’ve been trying to keep my left side pretty much slick for pistol draw

[elder anchor]

What actually is the plate carrier?

[alpine oxide]

Looks like a condor

[slate leaf]

It’s a condor MOPC I think

[slate leaf]

I know it’s condor

[honest meadow]

do u have a belt

cause if so id recommend the rip away ones u can get

[slate leaf]

I do have a belt

[honest meadow]

like this

[honest meadow]

this is a blueforce gear small trauma pack

[slate leaf]

My torso kinda short so my plate carrier doesn’t ride very high above my belt though so would that cause an issue?

[slate leaf]

Here’s a picture of it (also I want to buy a new holster so if you know any off the top of your head that’d be cool )

That’s look good where about on my belt would you recommend putting it?

[honest meadow]

it opens to the side

u can see its got lil pull tabs and u pull out the bag with the medical stuff in

[slate leaf]

Oh okay

[honest meadow]

id say on the back

[slate leaf]

Gotcha

[slate leaf]

Would this interfere with the ifak?

[honest meadow]

no as with these ones u pull to the side not up or down

u see the grab handles on the side

thats where u pull to open it

or u could go with a more classic style one like this

[slate leaf]

I think that would work with the set up

Any brands in specific for the belt ifak?

[honest meadow]

i mean high speed gear is the brand of the one u like

but make sure u buy ur actual medical equipment from a reputable place not amazon

[slate leaf]

What websites would you recommend

[honest meadow]

gimme a sec

https://meresupplies.co.uk/?v=79cba1185463 this place sells premade ifaks with supplies

and they sell packs with the supplies inside so u can put them in ur own pouch

but obviously if u go down this route get training on first aid and learn how to administer it to urself and others

[slate leaf]

Gotcha I’ll have a look at them

[slate leaf]

I have basic knowledge of first aid and how to administer it to myself, I have an medical kit but it’s not one I’d be able to use on my belt or carrier

[honest meadow]

yea good

[cerulean minnow]

@honest meadow

i placed a little bit of tape around the pressure button until I get rhe actual button you suggested

[limber flame]

looks a lot nicer with thw scope back

looks more natural

[cerulean minnow]

ye

[limber flame]

remeber kids
drip is the most important part

[cerulean minnow]

also realized how much having the rear sight under it sucked

[limber flame]

yeah i only run BUIS with red dots

when i run magnified idrc

[cerulean minnow]

da scope sideways cus its dificult to hold both the gun and phone and sight at the same time XD

[honest meadow]

👍🏽

[low umbra]

always has been

[elder anchor]

You don’t need an IFAK for airsoft, it might be worth getting a repro off eBay if you’re just after the aesthetic

[river bison]

Ok modified it abit only slight issue I have is the hopup which works suspiciously too well

And I have to give up the charging handle and the dust cover

It’s a beast in CQB and can hold itself long range

[honest meadow]

its worth to just have when u know how to use it not essential but if u wanna

[pliant dust]

A man of taste

[cerulean minnow]

yes indeed

the fucking mutant is my baby

i love her

[elder anchor]

I’d never recommend dropping money on a legit prefab IFAK, but I can get behind having some medical utility on your person, however neither of those things are needed.

[honest meadow]

yea its not needed but its worth having if when ur not using it on ur kit on a game day u just shove it in ur car

[pliant igloo]

https://www.narescue.com, https://mymedic.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjwitShBhA6EiwAq3RqA4xJmeQf2NteYhTLoOVUYWi92V0qZGtnDBNh7vYHcJ9Uiy8pEIG9HBoCiuwQAvD_BwE

[river bison]

@elder anchor I’m torn on this when it comes to people carrying IFAK’s in airsoft games

I carry mine because I can’t be arsed to take it off since I use work gear in games

At the same time it’s extra weight

[elder anchor]

I cant justify someone who has no idea what they’re doing carrying one

[river bison]

In the first place if someone gets hurt people usually call blind man and refs or marshals stop the game

That too

[elder anchor]

Yeah it’s not really something that’s needed outside of perhaps very very large scale games where marshals may be few and far between

[river bison]

I’m a big believer in train how you fight but people running around with shit like medical supplies is iffy to me

Hell I can barely trust the infantry guys with a fully stocked IFAK

[elder anchor]

Yeah I don’t really want an airsofter trying to stitch me up with their prefab IFAK

[river bison]

I threw a fucking fit when some infantry dude tried to use combat gauze as a regular bandage

[elder anchor]

lol

Infantry doing infantry things is incredibly funny

Airsofters doing airsofter things on the other hand

Often just sad to watch

[river bison]

Man I just wanna play

I hate it when people get hurt in my field, I always end up having to take care of it since I’m actually a goddamn medic and people know it

Instead of playing the game I’m treating injuries

So many rolled ankles because dumbasses wear tennis shoes

Or scrapes and bruises because someone’s want to play in booty shorts

[elder anchor]

Is this on your bases field?

[river bison]

Yeah

And the field previous to that that I played on

[elder anchor]

You need to get some rules in place

[river bison]

It’s usually the folks who just show up for the first time too

It was so bad in my previous group when we played a game in the mountains with 50 people someone took a tumble

Down a hill

[elder anchor]

Lone survivor style?

[river bison]

Had to get him to the hospital he has to get surgery on his ankle from a bad tear

Yeah

[elder anchor]

Nice

[river bison]

I was so mad

[elder anchor]

Well anything that can go wrong

[river bison]

Wasted my time for sure

[elder anchor]

I can imagine

[river bison]

Shoulda just had him sit and wait until I was done