airsoft

[limber flame]

theyve done you dirty there bro

[junior sedge]

Blurry as hell

[sinful agate]

Got this really good deal

Owner wasn't really interested in AK and got the gun extra from another sale so he's selling it for cheap.

[junior sedge]

Very nice

Where's the gas block thing tho

[sinful agate]

That's the only missing part

Which I have plenty of

And mags I guess

So basically a $400 gun for $100 with 2 missing parts

[arctic holly]

Can't imagine that being particularly hard to find

[limber flame]

no pt-1 cheek riser

F

[sinful agate]

Oh yeah, forgot about that

[arctic holly]

even then it's airsoft so you can kinda just run without it

[arctic holly]

that bothers me more

[sinful agate]

Big F, however that's small compared to the money saved

[limber flame]

thats the part thats gonna be a lil more awkward to find

[arctic holly]

half the reason I'm considering a PT-1 is for the cheek riser

[limber flame]

the gas tubes are easy enough

[sinful agate]

They do no sell it separately. So I'll prob need to get a whole new zenit co stock

[limber flame]

the pt-1 gen 2 cheek riser is superior
but the gen 1 is drippier

[arctic holly]

tbf though, with the money saved you could just get a whole ass new stock

[sinful agate]

Maybe I'll get a buffer tube and m4 stock or Zhukov stock

[limber flame]

true true

[arctic holly]

idk I like the screws on the gen 2 more both practically and aesthetically

[arctic holly]

PT-1 is pretty drippy

[limber flame]

pt-1 is peak sex for ak's

[arctic holly]

also if you get like a 5ku repro or something you can just yoink the cheek riser off it and you won't even have to open the gun up

[limber flame]

the zhukov goes on sidefolders?

[sinful agate]

Ye

[sinful agate]

Already have a full zenit co gun

[arctic holly]

fair enough

[arctic holly]

magpul AK's are also pretty drippy

[elder anchor]

"not covered with purchase protection"

[arctic holly]

I'm not sure it can but I think some airsoft versions do

[sinful agate]

PayPal business invoice (never do F&F)

Also never buy from hopup since hopup takes 10% of all profits. So most owner do it 3rd party anyways

[elder anchor]

so hopup is basically just a billboard now

[sinful agate]

Some people still sell using hopup and stuff (seller insurance, better support, actual reviews on your profile)

But yeah, hopup is like airsoft craigslist at this point

[elder anchor]

sick

[slate jay]

tp1 stock pk red dot b-30 handguard rk6 for grip what muzzel tho >?

[junior sedge]

Zenit cola can one

Putnik

[river bison]

some punk shattered one of my eotechs

[slate jay]

then put a bb len in front of it

if yo scope get shot out it aynt thier falt that all on you

[junior sedge]

Mfw real steel sight gets plastered by a plastic pellet

Shoulda bought a vortex

[slate jay]

the put a 4 euro bb len infron it

[elder anchor]

Legit eotech?

[river bison]

Nah it’s a holy warrior one

[river bison]

See above

[junior sedge]

Ah gotcha

[river bison]

@elder anchor final form with the HAO Mk16 rail

It was an undertaking to get it and install it

Out of spec as hell but real steel accurate

@elder anchor @junior sedge

[junior sedge]

Rest in piece

[elder anchor]

Beautiful

[desert current]

I fuck with it hard

[river bison]

the only consolation of today's game is that my urgi performs beautifully

and my MCX is finally getting the long awaited kythera treatment

[river bison]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXWiW8dIITg&ab_channel=AirsoftRumors

[wraith current]

Ain't scared of no USEC

[old latch]

How'd you manage to become a Terragroup employee as a BEAR?

Sick kit though

[wraith current]

Reaped it off some dead bodies 😅

[old latch]

Fair enough

[glacial drift]

man i wish i had the money for one

those look so cool

[round comet]

whered you get the labs patch?

[wraith current]

Tarkov merch store , you can find them on Etsy aswell. The patches are amazing quality

Took about a month to ship from Russia to Canada

[round comet]

thanks brother

[oak bane]

how tf can you loose an AK gas block

[elder anchor]

A lacking frontal lobe

[jagged wraith]

New airsoft helmet I got recently.

[sinful agate]

Can hardly see it

[honest meadow]

the cyma one is for folding stock varients

[slate leaf]

is a tokyo marui mws a good one ?

[proven canyon]

Looks good, but I’m a MICH fanboy so 8/10

[jagged wraith]

Thanks.

[elder anchor]

yes]

[sinful agate]

Yes, one of the best gbbr money can buy

Very gas efficient + Marui's magical hopup

[glacial drift]

Isnt the gas efficieny average but it's praised for the cold weather performance

[sinful agate]

Mws has lighter gbb recoil due to the short stroke. It uses less gas than ghk m4. And from what my friend who does have a tm mws said. When it's full on gas, it can go through 2 mags on a good sunny day

It's good, but it's marui, so be prepared to deal with proprietary parts

[glacial drift]

I mean ghks aren't exactly top of the line in gas efficiency either

Id consider Vfc guns to be really gas efficient though they go through several mags with a single refill if you maintain them correctly

[sinful agate]

Got to shoot the vfc scar-h, big kick but you loose fps super fast due to the amount of gas exhausted

[tribal tree]

Gas blowback users when they break there $90 mag

[sinful agate]

Most oppressed group of airsofters: gbbr users

I'm still waiting for gbbr exclusive events

[zinc bramble]

handguard came in

this is big

[glacial drift]

real

[glacial drift]

yeah the scar h is really old and the only update that i know of in new batches is the built in npas

but most of the other recent vfc guns that ive seen are incredibly gas efficient

its still cool though because its a scar h

[sinful agate]

My friend just recently got a GHK Aug. Looks soooo good

[zinc bramble]

gbbr exclusive event would be cool

[river bison]

Ayyy geissele gang

[glacial drift]

is the ghk aug good

im considering it but it looks like a collectors piece considering the qc issues

[limber flame]

pretty sure the AUG and SG 552 have been spared from the QC fuckery

[zinc bramble]

yeeees

such a pretty handguard

[sinful agate]

My friend just got it last Saturday. I'll be going to his house this weekend so I'll let you know once I get to shoot it

[river bison]

@zinc bramble ikr

Mine is abit more brown

Or bronze

[zinc bramble]

i got the black one

cuz it was a bit cheaper

and i think the black one looks very clean

it was like 40$ less i think lol

i just need smr segments

i hate that they don't include any when you buy it

[river bison]

you can fit mlok on it but you gotta have screws long enough

i also made MOE work

thats how im able to use it

[zinc bramble]

damn

i don't got any on hand rn

im probably just gonna get smr segments

hopefully hkparts carries them

[round comet]

You know EF would be there selling gas making bank Lol

i used to love gbbrs but i got rid of my last one a couple years ago

besides my tm mk23

but its not a blowback, just the last thing i have thats gas

[zinc bramble]

imagine if they prohibit propane

[glacial drift]

imo gbbrs are way more fun than aegs

maybe its that i like the realism from airsoft than the speedshitter aspect

[sinful agate]

Hence why I want a gbbr only event. No speedsofters pre-firing every corner with 35 rps guns with a pistol that uses an m4 mag adapter

Gbbr makes you calculate your shots since most gbbr are between 30-40 rounds a mag. When you run out, you gotta have a buddy cover you while you pack a mag. Gives way more dynamic in airsoft other than run and gun

[glacial drift]

Yeah it's really fun to take on corners because you can't just prefire everything

And to cover for people as they're going around a corner

[river bison]

My field atm is so hard to play in with my set up

I usually use carbine or SBR length rifles and the corners always fucks me

I need to use my SMG’s or pistol length rifles more

[glacial drift]

I tried doing a cqb field with my battle rifle load out scar h that shit was not working out

Thank god i got a ump 45 it's so much ligher

[mild moat]

Anyone have some recommendations for hearing protection/mic combo under $200? I'd love for it to be all in one system versus my 2nd option of going with peltor sports and a code red external mic.

[hazy zenith]

Wait I forgot the usp

[junior sedge]

Tidy your bed bozo tf

[elder anchor]

Imagine having optics

[narrow knoll]

can anyone help me get a tarkov inspired build?
my budget is around £600 and i am new to airsoft

[sinful agate]

Bear or usec?

[narrow knoll]

dont really mind i play differnt each wipe

[sinful agate]

Well... Then I can't proceed unless you know what kind you want

Like you can mimic Russian pmc or western pmc

Or be a homeless scav

[narrow knoll]

any pmc

ther is no l85 in game ?

[sinful agate]

Just the gun for 600 or a whole kit?

[narrow knoll]

£600 for gun

unles the kit is super expensive

[limber flame]

thats one hell of a budget lad

[sinful agate]

If you're using real gear yeah it's gonna be expensive. But if you're using airsoft repro it's doable. Anyways, with that kind of budget, id get something nice like a E&L 74m or 100 series

Lct quality control is pretty shit right now so I'd steer clear till they get their shit together.

U can then pimp the AK out with zenit co, moe, or Zhukov stuff

[limber flame]

pain

[narrow knoll]

ok thanks

[narrow knoll]

you know if cyma is good for ak?

[sinful agate]

Cyma is good on budget

[limber flame]

cyma make very good budget level guns
their internals are pretty solid
but their externals could use some work
and arent always real steel compatable

[sinful agate]

Their receiver is made of pot metal instead of steel so you can definitely see the quality difference

[narrow knoll]

so somthing like this is good or no?

[sinful agate]

Cyma?

[narrow knoll]

yes

[sinful agate]

All cyma ak are built like tanks. But it'll def look more like a toy compare to brands like lct and e&l

[narrow knoll]

full name:
CYMA CM.045A AKS-74U Real Wood Handguard - High-Speed

its real wood and metal

[sinful agate]

Hold up, gonna try and find a list of what to get and what to avoid

In terms of cyma ak

@narrow knoll use this as reference

[narrow knoll]

thanks man

it is on there

[sinful agate]

Good, then it's the right choice if you'd like a cyma 74u

[narrow knoll]

tnh i really like l85s but they are not in tarkov and not cheap

[limber flame]

and there aren't really any good l85's

the ics ones are very outdated

the g&g ones are pretty neat but the EBB system fucks itself

the WE ones are so few and far between
also GBB

the ares is well

ares

[sinful agate]

I don't like aeg bullpups so I don't know

[narrow knoll]

what about a dmr thing or not good for first?

[narrow knoll]

like this guys

[elder anchor]

if youre buying from patrol base and want an AK, that one isnt the one i would reccomend

[narrow knoll]

what do you recommend ak or anything else?

[elder anchor]

well i wouldn't recommend buying from patrol base

and i wouldn't recommend an AK as your first gun

you said £600 budget?>

[narrow knoll]

yes

[elder anchor]

you are based in the UK?

[narrow knoll]

yes

its not for milsim so no super range

[elder anchor]

is the £600 encompassing attachments?

and do you have an image of a gun you like

[narrow knoll]

here

love this

[elder anchor]

ah yes the infamous MK16, courtesy of @river bison

yeah thats very doable

[narrow knoll]

it is

?

[elder anchor]

lemme send you some links

[narrow knoll]

thanks man

[elder anchor]

i have a very similar rifle

and im uk based

[narrow knoll]

nice man

whereavouts you play?

[elder anchor]

Up north

Round Sheffield

[river bison]

It’s a carbine not a dmr@narrow knoll

[elder anchor]

Phoenix airsoft is my go to site

[narrow knoll]

oh my bad

[river bison]

It’s also an LPVO not a sniper scope

I recommend it

[narrow knoll]

how much was it if you dont mind me asking?

[river bison]

It acts as a 1x and I can switch magnification

This one is 250 bucks

USD

The scope I mean

The whole gun is worth at least 800

[narrow knoll]

can i make it on 600?

[elder anchor]

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/specna-arms-sa-e23-edge-2-0-tm

[river bison]

Nvm 950 because of the rails lol

[elder anchor]

you can

bear with me

[narrow knoll]

usec

[elder anchor]

shush

do you want to replicate the length too?

[narrow knoll]

yes

[river bison]

Try to get a Dytac rail it’s a cheaper alternative

It’s the top

[elder anchor]

ignore this then

[narrow knoll]

that it wat atracts me to it

[river bison]

It’s more bronze than FDE

Tho

[narrow knoll]

i dont mind

[honest meadow]

or chad 416

from specna arms 416 seems decent

[narrow knoll]

and you recommend what attachments?

[honest meadow]

depends indoor or outdoor mostly?

[narrow knoll]

outdoor

[river bison]

Start with a grip and a PEQ then get a light and a tap switch

[honest meadow]

a sight a grip

[river bison]

Mine is made with milsim and NVG usage in mind

[narrow knoll]

what couler is the PEQ ?

[honest meadow]

black or tan

no real varience

[river bison]

Either depending on your taste

[narrow knoll]

what is it?

[elder anchor]

his is FDE

[honest meadow]

a light laser combo

[sinful agate]

Why not both?

[elder anchor]

you dont need a PEQ

you can save some money if you just want the aesthetic

and buy a battery box as a dummy

[honest meadow]

but then u gotta look out so u dont accidently buy a battery box

[narrow knoll]

what is a peq and tap switch?

[elder anchor]

the PEQ is the laser box thing

[narrow knoll]

oh

[river bison]

The switch for the PEQ and the light

[elder anchor]

the tap switch is basically a pressure pad

[honest meadow]

if ur looking for cheap good lights WADSN is my go-to

[narrow knoll]

so for £600 you recomend just a sight and grip?

[sinful agate]

"AliExpress is airsofters best friend"

[honest meadow]

ye and then see what u want to do with the gun

[elder anchor]

no

[river bison]

My URGI started it’s life as a VFC Avalon Saber lol

[narrow knoll]

and the gun

[river bison]

So I get that awesome stock performance

[honest meadow]

if it doesnt have a tightbor barrel then get a prometheus

[narrow knoll]

we have same mouse lol

[sinful agate]

Sheesh y'all about to make this man broke

[elder anchor]

https://www.surplusstore.co.uk/bb-guns/realistic-bb-rifles/bymake/vfc/vfc-avalon-urgi-carbine-6mm-airsoft-aeg.html

[elder anchor]

gun

[river bison]

The Avalon saber is literally a reskinned VFC URGI

[narrow knoll]

thanks looks good

[elder anchor]

il send you some attachments now

[river bison]

It sucks they don’t sell the VFC URGI AEG anymore

Only the GBB

[sinful agate]

Gbb is the only way

[elder anchor]

do you have UKARA

[narrow knoll]

have aplied am waiting

[river bison]

Speaking of GBB I can’t wait for my rail s for my MP7 to get here on Thursday so I can dremel the lame foldable grip

[sinful agate]

Is that a uk thing?

[elder anchor]

Uk RIF license

[sinful agate]

You need a license to play airsoft?

[elder anchor]

to own real imitation firearms

[sinful agate]

My condolences

[elder anchor]

airsoft guns that are full black/ milspec colours

all you have to do is get a site membership

[sinful agate]

What are the consequences of not doing so?

[elder anchor]

which i was gonna do anyway

[elder anchor]

blue guns

[sinful agate]

Who enforces that ?

Police?

[elder anchor]

yup

[sinful agate]

💀

[river bison]

@elder anchor

My urgi performance

[elder anchor]

damn solid

[river bison]

With .20’s

[honest meadow]

this is what my e&l ak 105 looks like

cause of that rule

[river bison]

I usually use .28’s so minus 40-50 fps

[elder anchor]

my FPS is tanking on my URGI currently

[narrow knoll]

i can buid this into a "dmr" right?

[sinful agate]

Looks good actually

[river bison]

Check the springs

[elder anchor]

yeah same, i get around 230 lol..

[honest meadow]

aint got my grip or light on but ye

[river bison]

Move to a M120 spring

[elder anchor]

you can but that would be very expensive

you cant build a bad DMR

[narrow knoll]

i get that sight right?

[honest meadow]

lpvo's even for airsoft are quite pricey

[narrow knoll]

man

[river bison]

Don’t get this exact sight, it’s expensive as fuck lol

[sinful agate]

Well, I think you need to define what a dmr is at your local field

[elder anchor]

that doesnt make it a DMR, you can call it that, but when people refer to a DMR in airsoft usually they are refering to a gun that is locked to semi automatic in order to bypass FPS restrictions.

[river bison]

Dmr should be over 1.5 joules with more than 16in

[narrow knoll]

16+ 400fps and semi

that is my sight rules

and min engage of 10m

[sinful agate]

But what are the categories of guns

[elder anchor]

right if you want to make it into a DMR it is going to be very expensive

you wont be able to obtain the attachments you want

you cannot cheap out building a DMR

[river bison]

14.5-16 in is a carbine length rifle normally

[narrow knoll]

so i hould just get a carbide and put a 4x on it/

[sinful agate]

For example lmg has its own jule limit, rifle have their own jule limit, dmr has their own jule limit, and so does bolt action snipers

[elder anchor]

thats what ive done, and its a VFC avalon so your FPS and rage will be pretty goddamn solid anyway

[narrow knoll]

350fps

[sinful agate]

Just because it has a magnified optic doesn't make it a dmr

[narrow knoll]

its not ave 350?

[river bison]

Exactly

It’s default setting is 1x so it’s literally a red dot

[narrow knoll]

wht does that mean?

[elder anchor]

it will have 350

[narrow knoll]

but i can upgrade right?

[sinful agate]

All airsoft guns are upgradeable

[elder anchor]

dont worry about it

[elder anchor]

much more expensive than you think

[sinful agate]

However I wouldn't upgrade it unless something breaks

[river bison]

@narrow knoll this is an LPVO from my real rifle

[limber flame]

sheesh
that true 1x though

[river bison]

1x means no magnification

[sinful agate]

Considering it is a vfc, you won't need to upgrade it unless something breaks

[narrow knoll]

is 250fps bad?

[sinful agate]

It's basically already well built from factory

[honest meadow]

yes

[sinful agate]

Yes lol

[river bison]

VFC’s are best stock, if you try to add into it it breaks something

[narrow knoll]

hmm

[sinful agate]

350 to 400fps is kinda the standard

[honest meadow]

Nightforce?

[river bison]

Sig tango 6

[honest meadow]

ahh just i recognised the reticle from insurgency sandstorm ismc mod haha

[narrow knoll]

so i shouildnt get the VFC Avalon URGI Carbine as its only 250fps?

[elder anchor]

it doesnt

that was a mis type

[narrow knoll]

oh what was it?

[elder anchor]

i edited it immediately

i guessed around 350, it can certainly be made to fire that

[narrow knoll]

my bad

[elder anchor]

you could save some money and get the E&C mk16

and spend some on a better innerbarrel, hop unit ext

[river bison]

It’s 400 stock lol

[narrow knoll]

you reckon i should?

[elder anchor]

https://www.davescustomairsoft.co.uk/e-and-c-mk16-13-5-aeg-black

this one is the correct length and in stock

thw VFC is significantly more expensive

but better performance stock

you want to make something like this correct?

[narrow knoll]

yes man🤤

[elder anchor]

do you mind it being black?

[narrow knoll]

ehh prefer it to be tan

but if it saves me BIG money i wont mind but if its like £50 extra idm

[elder anchor]

there seems to be a shortage of optics

specifically the good victoptics LPVOs

[narrow knoll]

wont be able to get it soon i will be able to get it aroun november(my birthday)

will they be back in stock then?

[elder anchor]

maybe

[narrow knoll]

and what grip do you recomend as in style

[honest meadow]

what length rifle

[elder anchor]

he wants a 13.5

[honest meadow]

also what grip u using

[honest meadow]

k i'd say like in the pic a kac style handstop and or angleds

[elder anchor]

currently something like this would be much easier to make

[elder anchor]

or go all out on a full length kac vert

[honest meadow]

chad

[elder anchor]

they are kind on based on mk16s

[honest meadow]

based kac fullgrip

[elder anchor]

@narrow knoll what do you think to this

[honest meadow]

but ye magpul afg style or a handstop

[narrow knoll]

very cool

[elder anchor]

you dont mind having the red dot + magnifier?

[narrow knoll]

if it saves me the money

[elder anchor]

because that is much more viable at the second

ok

[narrow knoll]

and where i play there are some big maps and some small

we rotate on the differnt maps on the day

[elder anchor]

red dots are usually better for airsoft anyway

[narrow knoll]

yes

[honest meadow]

also red dot isnt exspensive to replace and exspensive usually have lifetime warranty

[elder anchor]

here is what i would reccomend

i got muted for "spam" last time i tried to post there links but lemme try again

most of this stuff is also out of stock

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/vector-optics-victoptics-agn-1-6x24-sfp?pv=15991

optic

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/specna-arms-sa-e23-edge-2-0-tm

gun

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/wadsn-v600-scout-tactical-flashlight?pv=19574

light

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/wadsn-hot-button-for-keymod-and-m-lok-sf-scout-light-plug?pv=18829

pressure pad for said light

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/big-dragon-knights-type-qd-m4-15-16-ccw-silencer?pv=5141 suppressor

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/cyma-pdw-pistol-grip-for-m4-ar15-aeg?pv=18699

replacement grip because fuck the specna arms one

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/big-dragon-slim-ar15-m4-pdw-stock?pv=12955 stock

[junior sedge]

Patrolbase
British person detected

[elder anchor]

yup

i tarkoved the what i imagine the gun looking like for reference

[elder anchor]

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/wadsn-lpvo-30mm-scope-mount-for-20mm-picatinny-rail scope mount

[elder anchor]

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/wadsn-offset-light-mount-m-lok-and-keymod light mount

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/battleaxe-picatinny-vertical-foregrip
https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/asg-m-lok-rail-panel-set?pv=6167 rails and grip

thats just my recommendation for a solid and cool looking gun @narrow knoll anyway, do what you want with this information

oh yeah, and buy loads of cheap mags as opposed to a few expensive mags

expensive mags are a scam

[limber flame]

interesting

[river bison]

I hate those KAC VFG’s

It’s what we used for work for our M4’s

[limber flame]

just get a BCM stubby or some shi

[river bison]

People have the instinct to grip it, a stubby or a VFG is more beneficial

Also it’s just goofy as hell

[river bison]

Man I’ve had this lying around for awhile now

[narrow knoll]

thanks so much man this is a lot of help,btw you recomend that grip you linked or an angled one?

[narrow knoll]

the link shows it as tan but the gun is all black?
is there a tanned version?

[narrow knoll]

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/specna-arms-rock-river-arms-sa-e07-edge-2-0-tm
would this be a tanned alternative or i go all black?

[elder anchor]

You could get that yes, however I would personally look for something mlok

[clear trail]

this gun is fire! i have one, zero one do it in tan#

[smoky thunder]

I wouldn’t, mlok is ass

[elder anchor]

You are wrong and you know it

[smoky thunder]

To each their own

[elder anchor]

That’s just false

[smoky thunder]

I stand on what I said

[elder anchor]

Explain it

[smoky thunder]

It’s mlok

What more is there to say

[elder anchor]

A lot

[limber flame]

quad rail on top

[arctic holly]

It's just straight better than keymod

Quad rails look better tho

[narrow knoll]

what is mlock?

[crystal rover]

Mlok looks better but pic is superior due to most shut being built of pic

[elder anchor]

The small rectangles in the handguard of the gun I sent you

[elder anchor]

That is simply false

[elder anchor]

Mlok acts as a mounting point for devices onto a handguard

[crystal rover]

How do you mount most attachments

You need pic

What do you need if you have mlok

A pic mount

[elder anchor]

Proving my point for me

Well done

[crystal rover]

No

[elder anchor]

Mlok allows you to only have the rails you need

[crystal rover]

You need to buy more shit when you can just get pic rails

[elder anchor]

Or you could just buy stuff that mounts directly onto mlok

There is a lot of that

Means you have an over all lower profile

[crystal rover]

Compared to pic, fuck no

[elder anchor]

It’s not infinitely less by any means

There is loads that mounts directly onto mlok

[crystal rover]

Find me a laser like a peq-15 that mounts to m-lok

[elder anchor]

Why

Just mount it on the top

Like a normal person

Who the fuck would mount a laser device direct onto Mlok

It wouldn’t hold zero

There is no reason to anyway

So you have no point

[elder anchor]

That actually depends on what mlok mount you use but

So what’s your point

Mlok is better than keymod for reasons that are available on the internet for you to go and find yourself

And mlok is better than pic for the aforementioned reason that you don’t have unnecessary mounting points all over your gun

Allows for a sleeker lighter rail

[narrow knoll]

@elder anchor you know where i can get a tan version of the gun you sent?

[elder anchor]

I can get you a link

Sorry for the random question but how old are you if I may ask?

[narrow knoll]

15

but will be 16 this november so i am old enogh for a dmr at my site

Also the place where i play near me looks like this

and this

you recon the 6x is still good or i go for the red dot and a 3x?

[elder anchor]

i mean generally for airsoft the red dot and 3x is better

so heres the deal, you could get a gun and make a DMR

that would cost you around £200

to turn the gun into a DMR

[elder anchor]

maybe less maybe more

looking at the video you posted you could probably benefit from an LPVO

so minimum thats £130

optic + mount

the benifit of the E-23 is the pre installed GATE ASTER mosfet, along with upgraded internals

im trying to think what is the best play for you

money wise if you want to go for the aesthetics of your gun, dont get a DMR

if you want a good gun, send one to get upgraded

[narrow knoll]

alright thanks man you have helped a lot over this day and yesterday

[elder anchor]

no worries my dude, i have far too much time on my hands

[narrow knoll]

how do i tell if a gun is good or not?

[elder anchor]

its difficult if you dont know what youre talking about because it varies heavily

[narrow knoll]

like i want a tan one but not many alternatives?

[elder anchor]

different brands are good and different ones are bad

[narrow knoll]

Specna Arms Rock River Arms SA-E07 EDGE 2.0™ Carbine AEG, Half-Tan

is this good?

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/specna-arms-rock-river-arms-sa-e07-edge-2-0-tm

same price

[elder anchor]

its keymod and the blast mitigator in the barrel is not my style, but yeah its a good gun

[narrow knoll]

i can make it look like the cool ones you sent erlier?

[elder anchor]

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/specna-arms-sa-a34-ht-one-carbine-aeg?pv=16741

[elder anchor]

not the same

[elder anchor]

if you run this gun with a 7.4V battery and use .25s, it will work fine for you

its upgradable and comes in the bronze

[narrow knoll]

thanks

the gun you origininaly linked is there a way i can make it tanned?

[elder anchor]

there is a tan variant, but its more expensive and out of stock everywhere

[narrow knoll]

man

[elder anchor]

tbf the black one is also out of stock everywhere

[narrow knoll]

what you recomoned i do >

just get the build you sent but no tan?

[elder anchor]

well you have a few options

[narrow knoll]

what are they?

[elder anchor]

option A: get the gun i just posted, its a worse gun overall but will still last you and also means you dont have to worry about working the GATE ASTER to get things like active breaking, which would be necessary to run the gun with an 11.1v battery

option B: wait until the black version comes back in stock, buy it and all of the attachments, get it painted a sick camo pattern

option C: hunt down the tan variant, which again is rare and more expensive. the only place ive seen sell it is in europe

option D: go for a different gun

[narrow knoll]

alight thanks man

[elder anchor]

in regards to option A, you can always get the gun upgraded later on if you come across more money

what i would personally do is buy only a few attachments for gun A, and spend the rest on sending it to someone to make it the best you can

by "only a few attachments" i mean literally optic, flashlight, pressure pad, replacement buttstock

is money for magazines included in your budget?

[tawny nacelle]

what’s the cheapest blowback pistol i can buy

that’s not dogshit

[narrow knoll]

idk

what are the differntes in mags?

the rentals you have to wind them up with a wheel

can you pay for ones where you dont have to do that?

what if i just got this and a scope?
https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/ares-ar-308m-aeg-rifle-w-hard-rifle-case

[crystal rover]

https://www.evike.com/products/52008/ I need get these lmao

[crystal rover]

Go try and find a mag for this

You can’t

[crystal rover]

Eu or na

[elder anchor]

its a good gun but too expensive

do you like the .308 mags?

[elder anchor]

yes

[narrow knoll]

no idea what they are

[elder anchor]

the big old magazines

like a ""dmr""

5.56/STANAG/.223 mags are your typical AR15/M4 magazines

.308 is 7.62x51

bigger bullet

"marksman rifles" and "DMRs" are chambered in 7.62x51 in real life, the one you posted is too

I need to ask, do you have a budget for kit

[narrow knoll]

not sure

already have a mask

its the dyi 5 onyx

its not realistic but its prretty safe

thinking of getting a helmet and make them togter

maybey like this

then i just need some other kit

[elder anchor]

Dye masks are solid but you might stuggle with the scope

[narrow knoll]

hmm

[elder anchor]

So do you not have a budget for kit at all? We’re you just planning to run with ammo in your pockets?

[narrow knoll]

yes i would like to carry my mags and thats it really

kit i am not to worried about but at some point i would like to look like a geared pmc

[smoky thunder]

That’s only because anything’s better than dickmod

[honest meadow]

if u wanna use a scope a dye mask tbh isnt the way i'd go low profile face and eyepro is the way to go to get the best sight picture imo

[narrow knoll]

might have to use a red dot then

[elder anchor]

dye masks are easily resellable

keeping stock in mind i would say the way to go is to use a repro eotech (a good one) and a PTS unity riser

looks cool as well

ok heres the deal.

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/cyma-cm-097a-platinum-edition best gun for you atm

best value for money

warranty

people try to shit on the cyma platinum M4s because of the ETU but from my first hand experience its a lot less of an issue than its made out to be

looks cool but its black so if you want the whole tan gig you will have to paint it

or you could be super cool and run minimal tan

besides the point.

if you really really want magnification you could run an ACOG on top of a riser

https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/aim-t2-red-dot-with-qd-mount-dark-earth
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AWETHE-Micro-Sight-Height-Picatinny/dp/B0BCHY78Z8/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2A0XWWL4OV9AI&keywords=PTS+micro+riser&qid=1663181345&s=sports&sprefix=pts+micro+rise%2Csports%2C83&sr=1-3

https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/aim-t2-red-dot-black

alternative if you dont want tan

[narrow knoll]

i think i should stop worring about tan

[elder anchor]

sick

[narrow knoll]

this looks pretty cool

[elder anchor]

makes my life easier

https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/element-dbal-emkii-black

flashlight and laser

[narrow knoll]

can i ask what you have?

[elder anchor]

my gun?

[narrow knoll]

yes

[elder anchor]

one second

[narrow knoll]

thats sick

[elder anchor]

thank you very much#

[narrow knoll]

you reckon i should go with those scopes you linked or a red dot and a 3x or 4x?

[narrow knoll]

what is minimal tan?

like just the stock or somth?

[elder anchor]

usually looks like stock , tan, optic grip, sutff like that

[elder anchor]

due to your mask i suggest a red dot and a 3x

although in reality if you get a good red dot you dont really need magnification

you just need a good gun that is zeroed correctly

the LPVOs are just cool

[narrow knoll]

now that i realise i can use mininla tan you say this or
this?
https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/specna-arms-sa-e23-edge-2-0-tm

[elder anchor]

shit like this

[elder anchor]

if it comes back in stock

at the time a lot of stuff will have changed in regards to stock

[narrow knoll]

looks pretty cool

[elder anchor]

it can have more or less tan

ofc

[narrow knoll]

maybey i can get a tan stock?

[elder anchor]

anything you want dude

[narrow knoll]

how hard is it to swap for a tan handguard?

[elder anchor]

you would need to know what youre doing

[narrow knoll]

few yt tut?🤣

[elder anchor]

i mean thats what i tried and it went right over my head

i really like taking shit apart like that as well so

i can manage it now but back when i was new to this shit it was borderline impossible

[narrow knoll]

the CYMA - CM.097A Platinum Edition you think is good first gun?

[elder anchor]

this is good yes

it wont break on you

it functions well out of the box

[narrow knoll]

alright thanks man

[elder anchor]

its labeled skilled due to the fact that you would need to kind of know what you're doing to mess with some of the features

[narrow knoll]

ahh

[elder anchor]

but you wont need to mess with those features

[narrow knoll]

but if i really wanted to i could just send it to somone else right?

[elder anchor]

yes

[narrow knoll]

alright

and what fps is it?

[limber flame]

on average
most are between 300-350

[elder anchor]

fucking hell

290

thats shit

[elder anchor]

thats got to be wrong

[limber flame]

[elder anchor]

nice mk18

[limber flame]

wtf

[slate leaf]

thanks

[elder anchor]

290 on .2s

thats horrendous

[limber flame]

my 7 year old cm16 still shoots hotter

[narrow knoll]

so its bad?

[elder anchor]

no

[limber flame]

and that has a broken hop

[elder anchor]

thats got to be wrong

[elder anchor]

right so thats interesting

basically if i had to tell you why the FPS is so low it would be because patrol base downgrades the springs to meet UK spec

[limber flame]

they just throw am M90 spring in

[elder anchor]

its a good gun its just with that knowledge combined with the fact that you are new and i dont want to recommend something to you with you would have to disassemble lets steer clear of that for the time being

checking FPS on patrol base usually isnt something i worry about because they usually lie about that shit especially when a gun is really bad but the fact they are actually advertising it as 290 is concerning

[narrow knoll]

the place i play has a onn site shop

[elder anchor]

it would have come with the stock spring in the box, which would have enabled you to make it shoot significantly higher than 290, but again i would rather tell you to get a gun you wouldn't have to disassemble, even if it is easy

[narrow knoll]

this weekend i will take some photos then mayubey could you tell me what is good?

[elder anchor]

sure

[narrow knoll]

thanks man

can i add you on disc?

[elder anchor]

go for it

[junior sedge]

Is that a blm flag behind you

[slate leaf]

fuck nah

sorry for my french

its a saturdays are for the boys and a dont tread on me

[junior sedge]

F word. Sorry mom says I can't talk to you

[junior sedge]

Swag

[true grotto]

You definitely use the n-word regularly

[junior sedge]

All I have is the flag of dispair

[true grotto]

Imagine if your bedding matched!

[junior sedge]

The colours match tbf

My femboy lights make it look different tho

[true grotto]

Kinda cute femboy light tho

Smooth on the eyes

[junior sedge]

Yeah it's nice and easy in here

[true grotto]

I went to America and shot a few weapons full auto. So now I've decided to get into Airsoft :]

[junior sedge]

Good choice

[lime sigil]

ow, didnt know there is an airsoft channel in here

😄

[split steeple]

Picked this up ‘cus I’m just getting into airsoft, and these were cheap + highly recommended to me for beginners

I am looking for something electric though.. any pointers? This is what I picked out myself; ||https://www.airsoftgi.com/product/Classic-Army-ECS-PXG-9-AEG-Airsoft-SMG-w-Auto-Drum-Black-38402/||

[sinful agate]

who recommended you those? 😂 because you should not talk to them anymore

those airsoft are like 10 years old, and they're all springers....

[lime sigil]

my old beast of a cannon

[glacial drift]

Maybe they were recommending it on the basis of "if you don't like it you didn't spend much at least"

[sinful agate]

understandable, Let's hope they weren't the ones that sold him those just because they can't sell it to anyone else

I would've recommended either barrowing friend's gear, or do rental for a day

[river bison]

Upgraded the MP7

No more foldy grip!

[smoky thunder]

🔥🔥🔥

[viral zinc]

dude my green gas glock 17 i shooting like 170 fps w .20

wtf

[river bison]

Hmm

Maybe there’s a leak

Are you sure your mag is filled all the way?

[glacial drift]

I think your mag is near empty

How much seconds did you fill it?

[river bison]

Also relube your internals

[river bison]

@slate leaf its a KWA

i upgraded alot of it so its not stock, also bought the rail adapter, i had to cut the foldable grip

[river bison]

@slate leaf i know how this feels, i have the LCT ZK 74

that zenitco furniture makes it weigh more than my real one

[crystal rover]

Decided to see what was wrong

3 screws out of place

[river bison]

sigh the reality gbb's is i have to maintain my discipline not to over shoot

[crystal rover]

Safe was lose

and I top of that

Shit was wobble af

[river bison]

my mp7 mags freeze up too fast if i shoot more

[crystal rover]

I haven’t even touched the barrel yet

[slate leaf]

Which ak105 is a good one

[sinful agate]

Lct or e&l. Pick your poison

[smoky thunder]

What are the best options for gbb AKs these days? Is there anything besides We and GHK?

I care a lot more about the externals than internals

[limber flame]

for externals
GHK

but stay away from them

their QC is so shitty for the foreseeable future

droopy barrels
broken hop units

bent trunnions

pinched hop rubbers

all from factory

[smoky thunder]

So, stay We in the meantime?

[limber flame]

best bet

[smoky thunder]

Word

Good info

Thanks g

[limber flame]

just sucks that theres no "good" gbb ak

theres only "alright"

[smoky thunder]

A damn shame honestly

[limber flame]

and thats WE

the only GHK guns that seem to be spared from the lottery are their AUG's and SG series

[sinful agate]

My WE AK has lasted me for many months so far on stock internals. Nothing has broken and everything works as intended. However, I still bought steel internal for the inevitable future where trigger parts will break due to wear and tear

[sinful agate]

My friend recently got a GHK Aug A2. And he also agrees that the GHK Aug is one of the guns that don't have qc issues.

[glacial drift]

It's such a shame that tm can't just make accurate guns or good externals either

So you can't use real parts on it and you have to buy proprietary parts

[smoky thunder]

And that’s one of the main things I’m looking for, maximum compatibility with real AK furniture

[limber flame]

only real thing you can use on em is the damn dustcover

[old latch]

First game on the weekend

[sinful agate]

Cuz it's tm. They rather focus on performance and reliability

Don't get me wrong, tm makes some slappin airsoft guns, but it'll look exactly like a toy

[viral zinc]

full way

[viral zinc]

shoulda been BEAR

[limber flame]

tarkov players try to not slap their patches on everything and make their guns look like absolute ass challenge

(impossible)

[tribal tree]

I LOVE COSPLAYING BEAR FROM ESCAPE FROM TARKOV

[sinful agate]

I LOVE COSPLAYING! I LOVE COSPLAY! I LOVE COSPLAYING!

[sinful agate]

easiest way to know you play tarkov without telling them you play tarkov

[tribal tree]

I love cosplaying

This is not a joke

I will use up all the real gear for my bear cosplay

[limber flame]

[sinful agate]

you actually put work into your cosplay tho (props to you)

[tribal tree]

This is not a joke

[limber flame]

the difference between you and them
your kit is drippy
not from amazon

[tribal tree]

I will use all the real ars arma for my bear cosplay

[limber flame]

besides your mutant

[tribal tree]

LMAO

[limber flame]

mutant cringe

[tribal tree]

The mutant is a funny gun

[limber flame]

[tribal tree]

It's actually my cqb gun specific gun

I've also been working on this

[sinful agate]

SR47

[tribal tree]

Putting alot of effort to make this as accurate as possible to ingame

[tribal tree]

(:

[glacial drift]

I'm just waiting for the day Vfc decides to make a GBB akm

That'd be fucking awesome

[honest meadow]

E&L

[sage kite]

Should I get PMAGs for my AK104?

[river bison]

It is time

[smoky thunder]

Thought that was a weed cart on the first glance ngl

[sinful agate]

😂

[low umbra]

yea so unfortunate :(

[true grotto]

Looks like a cheeky tarky build =D

[pastel jewel]

Build it from parts, which i found in my house

0$ ak build

[rocky crypt]

well lol, the parts had to have come from somewhere so it cant be truly 0$

[waxen oracle]

Any airsoft gun is $0 if you steal it

[elder anchor]

Very good point

[pastel jewel]

Really

Painting pek

[pastel jewel]

It anyway very cheap. 3D printed gastube cover, RIS from fma helmet, peq for 3$, suppressor for 5$ from my 1911

[elder anchor]

What

What about the god damn AK

[pastel jewel]

?

[glacial drift]

I was wondering why the handguard looked 3d printed

Is that why the upper handguard has mlok bits?

[pastel jewel]

Only upper was 3D printed. Lower is plastic. Upper is magpul moe, with mlock

[glacial drift]

That's what I was suspecting

[slate leaf]

hi

[proven canyon]

Get palms if you do. Those are really the only ones I genuinely trust that don’t break

I usually stick with steel or bakes

[sage kite]

Im not sure if I can find any that work with my gun

[proven canyon]

Then I would probably settle with Magpul PMAGs if anything. If you want legit mags there are some people that hollow them out for the airsoft intervals

[eager gorge]

petition to make my friend a tarkov boss xd

[sinful agate]

No

Make this guy a tarkov boss

[leaden moth]

^ +1

[limber flame]

no

[true grotto]

Fam your friend needs to start buying food instead of Airsoft gear!

[tribal tree]

I should be a boss with a comically short mutant

[main wigeon]

Bro has less HP than a regular PMC

Debuff - Twig: a light breece can paralyze you

[eager gorge]

So skinny you cant hear him at all

[true grotto]

"Unique Passive: Dead Silence"

[lone wharf]

AR AR AR AR AR

[sage kite]

Bro is so fragile PST will one shot him

[slate leaf]

The tarkov wind will head eyes him

[summer pagoda]

F me, I got more Vector mags

I got 4 long and 2 short ones

[smoky thunder]

Mans posted his friend and got him roasted tf up

Poor kid

[alpine oxide]

It’s the fuck handle on the back of his head for me

[limber flame]

[river bison]

There I finally joined the dark side

[glacial drift]

You bought an aeg?

Also what's that an mcx?

[river bison]

@glacial drift no this is my old mcx thats been giving me issues so i HPA'd it

its literally a pain in the ass because of the wiring

the way the wires have to feed into the magwell causes shorts and the wires get shredded eventually

[glacial drift]

Wait there's an hpa kit for the mcx?

[river bison]

@glacial drift it’s a polarstar kythera

Kythera’s are fairly simple to set up

Assuming you don’t lose pieces

I spent an hour looking for the bolt release spring lmao

Fuckin flew off when I try to put it in

I’m debating on buying another one for the URGI

[glacial drift]

How much do they cost?

[sinful agate]

Kythera is one of the cheaper ones. Prob around $300 for the engine. However they're only semi auto version

They're very good, only downside is the whole semi lock thing

[tribal tree]

@sinful agate you have experience with crye or ufpro?

Or both

[sinful agate]

I don't have either, I'm a broke boy

[glacial drift]

Wait if you're already putting that much for a hpa why not go for a gbbr

[river bison]

i own a crapton of crye shit

[river bison]

GBBR is different

im gonna end up tapping my magazines when i get deep into GBBR's

im planning to do that with my GBB Mp7 actually because im not a fan of the cooldown time and the inconsistencies

[sinful agate]

Isn't Texas good for gbb since it's hot there?

[river bison]

you would think right

my MP7 mags love to get cold

[odd quartz]

he looks like tagilla if he didnt take roids and shave his head

[true grotto]

MCX are so beautiful to look at

[river bison]

I’m trying to get a new stock and the airsoft artisan Supressor and handguard next

[true grotto]

Your pistol grip kinda ugly but it looks beautiful how it is

[glacial drift]

What you live in a cold area?

I mean if you're going to tap your gbbr mags might as well stick with hpa kits

[river bison]

I have an HPA setup tapping my mags for HPA makes sense

[river bison]

I stuck the VFC QRS pistol grip on it because it’s comfy

[zinc bramble]

Crye is fantastic

They are probably the best go to brand for gear

Ufpro is not bad but everything they sell to civilians is neutered

Literally dyed with it reflective dye so it glows under night vision

[elder anchor]

For some reason I don’t think that’s true

Actually I know that’s not true

[limber flame]

kwa moment

[summer pagoda]

Not only MP7, Vectors too

Can't do a full mag dump

[slate leaf]

Yo guys whats an good cqb aeg gun under 500 euro’s/dollars

[elder anchor]

Cyber gun M4A1 $70

[limber flame]

"kwa"

[summer pagoda]

I have too many mags (3 on front, 5 in pouch on side, one in dump pouch and one in rifle)

Also, ik, MCB

[distant sigil]

Okay y’all do this is my Gen 1 Krytac CRB, as you can see I upgraded my inner barrel to a longer madbull inner barrel and when I did so I guess I didn’t quite measure out the length I needed properly so the inner sticks out of the suppressor a little. So I need a new longer suppressor, the one I have is roughly 3.5 inches, anyone have any they recommend around 4 inches?

[elder anchor]

ACM dummy halo

[elder anchor]

I used to run 10

On my person

+1 in the gun

+3 on my buddy

[river bison]

That’s literally combat load for us in the army, 7-8 mags is the standard

1-2 more in our pack

If ur doing a milsim event then it should be good

[main wigeon]

That's average

8-9 mags

Also why the fuck are you using a dump for mags

Except it's the one that has a built in magpouch

[glacial drift]

I forgot he had a kwa

I thought it was a Vfc and was wondering how the cool down was that bad after a few shots

[river bison]

That’s why I’m gonna tap the damn mags

VFC is good and all but I chose the KWA because of the magazine availability

I managed to snag 5 all at once

[limber flame]

a small price to pay for more mag

[glacial drift]

I mean the kwa cracks across the entire body instead of just the backplate

So it's like a time bomb

Mp7 rental if you will

[glacial drift]

Isn't the kwa mp9 one of the only passable kwa guns

I missed a chance to buy a used one cheap I'm just waiting for another one to pop up

[river bison]

This is why I did my upgrades

I added the angel custom recoil spring and loading nozzle also the QD mount that wraps around the end of the receiver

The main reason it cracks is the back plate can only take so much abuse from the recoil

Also the low power jet valve helps

I’m getting to a point where I should write a guide

[viral zinc]

my fuckin glock 17 mag has terrible gas effeciency

normal mag with gas lasts me 1.5 mags

what lube should i be using on o rings too o

[river bison]

@viral zinc you need silicone oil

[viral zinc]

what type or brand?

[river bison]

If ur having gas efficiency issues check the o rings to see if they are worn or the gas valves

Like I use the elite force one

Also green gas is supposed to have silicone built in it as well

Are you using propane

Or something

[limber flame]

you dont need the silicone in the gas

propane is perfectly fine

aslong as your o-rings and seals dont dry up its better

since youre not getting oil inside your hop and barrel

[rough ibex]

i want to build my airsoft gun up like this. thoughts? also can anybody give me a rough estimate on cost i dont know much about stuff like that

[river bison]

Does it have to be a skeletonized pistol grip?

[rough ibex]

no, i just like the way it looks

[river bison]

The stock is worth 67 bucks, base rifle is 350 in Evike, the eotech clone costs 50-90 bucks and that HERA CQR grip is 40 bucks

And that muzzle device can be a 90 dollar acetech Supressor

So about 500-600 bucks

[rough ibex]

thanks

[zinc bramble]

go buy their ufpro combat pants and take a look for yourself under nv, they really do it

if you can get the mil or le stuff good

but their civilian side things are not dyed for ir remission

[zinc bramble]

how did u do this btw

[slate leaf]

Vfc or tokyo marui

[glacial drift]

That would be ridiculous to hold in person

Id say if you're going for a light weight build go for a different handguard and lose the foregrip

[glacial drift]

It depends where you buy the eotech from

If you're buying a cheap Chinese one they can go for as low as 30 bucks including shipping

For the best quality eotech clones they can be around 100-130 dollars

[river bison]

I’m trying to give him cheaper options

I personally use holy warrior stuff

[glacial drift]

If he wants the very cheapest on Ali express there's a listing for eotech knockoffs with trades for 15 bucks

I use one on my scar because it holds zero

[river bison]

I love my eotech

But last week I lost one and ended up buying a new one

Because someone shot it

[glacial drift]

Is that RS?

[river bison]

RS?

[glacial drift]

Real

[river bison]

No

My real steel is this one

[glacial drift]

I keep on forgetting to put one of those plastic shields on mine

[river bison]

It’s wonky at best

Some eotechs with those one will make the sight picture look warped

Some don’t even fit

[glacial drift]

I mean most of the people i see with a shield just cut a piece of polycarbonate and put it on their sight

[viral zinc]

is lube not supposed to get inside the hop up

cause like i dont spray it on it but t just kinda gets there

[zinc bramble]

Most of the time a bit of lube in your barrel is not the end of the world

[smoky thunder]

Weird way to twist your arm

[limber flame]

but its not the greatest thing to have

[glacial drift]

Is it possible to remove the front rail and use a mp9 foregrip instead?

[limber flame]

especially if you dont clean constantly

[zinc bramble]

Fair enough, but like I got like black chunks in my barrel and i can still make shots out to 100m

6.05 barrel goes kinda hard

[sinful agate]

You can get away without cleaning if you have a good inner barrel

[short bough]

you should get a sight protector, they can be really low profile and cheap but protect a shot from cracking your sight

[river bison]

Wonky AF

[short bough]

yeah but its better than buying a new 60 sight in my opinion, unless you are going for that super realistic look

[river bison]

This is why I started to use LPVO’s

Good luck shooting that shit out

[short bough]

nice