#irl-gear | Escape from Tarkov Official | Page 135

acoustic harbor Mar 24, 2022, 8:33 PM

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thanks for pointing it out

zinc apex Mar 24, 2022, 9:20 PM

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bro you sound like such a loser

echo jay Mar 24, 2022, 9:22 PM

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nice bait bro

low fox Mar 24, 2022, 9:37 PM

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zinc apex bro you sound like such a loser

fuck off tankie

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interrupting me touching my penis, which has more value associated with it than your life does

echo jay Mar 24, 2022, 9:38 PM

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eft_What

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I have witnessed a murder

left flax Mar 24, 2022, 9:42 PM

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Call the paramedics

low fox Mar 24, 2022, 9:57 PM

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low fox interrupting me touching my penis, which has more value associated with it than ...

Ha

nova ginkgo Mar 24, 2022, 9:59 PM

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low fox interrupting me touching my penis, which has more value associated with it than ...

average coomer

barren kettle Mar 25, 2022, 12:25 AM

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zinc apex bro you sound like such a loser

seethe and cope harder

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 3:45 AM

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Grabenpanzer?

modest flame Mar 25, 2022, 3:54 AM

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molten plover Mar 25, 2022, 4:28 AM

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acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:15 AM

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low fox Grabenpanzer?

I meant commercially sold one

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I am aware that early prototypes and designs of bodyarmor were made

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the french made an interesting lne

left flax Mar 25, 2022, 6:56 AM

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modest flame

Idk how I feel about this

modest flame Mar 25, 2022, 7:16 AM

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left flax Idk how I feel about this

It's hot

left flax Mar 25, 2022, 7:16 AM

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Yeah, it's pretty hot

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 7:45 AM

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go fish for simps elsewere dennis

compact dagger Mar 25, 2022, 8:35 AM

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Oh no, the guy I know ordered Agi plate carrier

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and Agilite instantly pulled it out of stock as soon as he paid eft_PrapKEK

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 8:39 AM

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Agilite dennis

left flax Mar 25, 2022, 8:39 AM

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What's so bad about agilite

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Never heard of em

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 8:40 AM

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Their jewish kek

left flax Mar 25, 2022, 8:40 AM

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Ah cringe

compact dagger Mar 25, 2022, 8:41 AM

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they were my first plate carrier and it broke on me

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at least it happened after we were finished with FTX phase of training

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would be so fucking bad if it happened during it

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 8:52 AM

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dukttape fixes many things

modest flame Mar 25, 2022, 12:58 PM

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acoustic harbor go fish for simps elsewere <:dennis:824655730064752650>

I don't want any more simps, I cut most off cuz I got a gf

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 2:12 PM

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literally the armor I'm gonna use

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Gladiator best armor fight me

left flax Mar 25, 2022, 2:21 PM

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Too chonker

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I want TV102

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 2:22 PM

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Get TV 102

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greyshop ships again iirc

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The Gladiator is soft armor +Plates (This Model (S/C) also has side plates)

left flax Mar 25, 2022, 2:34 PM

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acoustic harbor Get TV 102

I bought the ratnik remember, will be a while before I buy anything else

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 2:34 PM

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k

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well at least you can use the granits in the TV 102

left flax Mar 25, 2022, 2:34 PM

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For sure

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 2:34 PM

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?

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The gladiator?

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or what

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You gotta find people who have it, It's issued by FSB, and also not cheap

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especially the plates are a pain

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Yes pretty much a bodyarmor system, covers the whole thorax, the first is badic config the latter is with groin and neck extension the set also features a soft armored Belt and Deltoids

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both are Cs

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/S being russian translation

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There are 2 other variants being the A and V(B) those don't issue sideplates but have more kevlar on the side and don't have a belt in the set but ass kevlar flap, also the A uses a weird Defender 2 like Plate setup

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basic config

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like

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set without anything

naive maple Mar 25, 2022, 2:42 PM

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lmfao that travesty

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 2:42 PM

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like a whole set weighs like maybe 25 lbs with side plates?

naive maple Mar 25, 2022, 2:42 PM

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i had forgotten about that

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 2:42 PM

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also the neck isn't that big

naive maple Mar 25, 2022, 2:44 PM

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chaz moment

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 2:44 PM

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Yes especially the plates they are issued, Stop M993 easily

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Ye for me it's the collection factor

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also it's a kinda flex to have one

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just have to get a plateset cuz the one I'm getting is just softarmor, the seller is a little unsure about sending plates because of export laws in russia

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also as I live in europe i do have the problem with availability of good armor

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Would love some LTC plates for example or similar but as they are not available here I try my best with russian stuff

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Also Russian stuff is like way more cheaper than the commercial shit sold here that has the same or sometimes worse capabilitys

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 3:24 PM

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acoustic harbor Would love some LTC plates for example or similar but as they are not available ...

multiple socom issue plates have leaked onto the second hand market

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not illegal to export either, if you can find someone willing to sell you a set

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that's the bigger issue really

left flax Mar 25, 2022, 3:47 PM

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I got offered the funny first choice armour, the one that caused the legal problems

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 3:49 PM

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low fox that's the bigger issue really

question is also, will they fit
Also for what are they rated? and weight, don't wanna get plates above like 7 lbs, 6.5 lbs or under would be perfect as being the issued Plates are like 6.5

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Gotta find out the dimensions of the glad Platebag

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 3:50 PM

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left flax I got offered the funny first choice armour, the one that caused the legal probl...

?

left flax Mar 25, 2022, 3:51 PM

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The brand First Choice

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https://www.courthousenews.com/u-s-may-sue-over-defective-body-armor/

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 3:53 PM

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funni

left flax Mar 25, 2022, 3:53 PM

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Yih

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Serial number 1 too

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Didn't buy it tho

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:07 PM

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acoustic harbor question is also, will they fit Also for what are they rated? and weight, don't ...

lol try 4.5

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2 shots of B32 API

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:08 PM

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how bout M993?

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:08 PM

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there aren't many plates that can swing that

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:08 PM

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So I'll stick to the Glad plates then

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because they can

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:08 PM

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if someone is shooting at you with m993

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they are very much trying to kill you specifically

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it's also not a round that's easy to source

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that shit is like 20 bucks a round

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:09 PM

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How is the multi hit capability then?

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because the Fort plates do have a soft spot if the Hexagon is gone on that spot

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:11 PM

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i dont know the exact multi hit specs

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but it'll take whatever you throw at it

dim steppe Mar 25, 2022, 5:11 PM

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Bruv even uf a plate stops m993 you're completely out of commission at that point.

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:11 PM

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not really

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:11 PM

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not to mention

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:12 PM

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We calculated that and a Bullet even absorbed can't really knock you down

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except it's like 50 cal and up

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:12 PM

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no they absolutely can

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it just depends on how the energy is transferred

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it's not gonna throw you off your feet

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but it can knock you over

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:12 PM

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A good UHMWPE backer + trauma pads can manage I bet

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:13 PM

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and if you're all bundled up in armor anyway

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they're just gonna aim for your clavicle notch and smoke you

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:13 PM

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clavicle notch?

dim steppe Mar 25, 2022, 5:13 PM

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Idk I've talked to people in the military and they've said 7.62x39 is like getting punched in the gut. Not to mention cracked ribs.

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:13 PM

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x39?

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bruh

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:13 PM

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was common with the old SAPIs

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cracked ribs and heavy bruising reported

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ESAPIs are pretty beefed up

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:14 PM

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didn't you have trauma padding?

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or what

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:14 PM

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trauma padding is a gimmick at best

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the majority of soft armor does not have the ability to stop the kinetic transfer of energy

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that's not what it's for

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it's for stopping any secondary fragmentation that may have made it through the plate

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:15 PM

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trauma padding is not softarmor

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it's the hard little pads/pillows in teh carrier

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that dampen the impact

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:15 PM

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🤨

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:16 PM

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this shit?

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here the newgen 6B45 one

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:16 PM

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east bloc sure is weird

radiant shadow Mar 25, 2022, 5:16 PM

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Most trauma pads go directly behind the plate.

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:16 PM

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it's simple but effective

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also increases airflow

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they made those since the fuckin... 6B3s?

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:18 PM

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trauma padding is such a stupid concept

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now that i seriously look into it

dim steppe Mar 25, 2022, 5:19 PM

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Either way as a civi I don't think you have to worry about getting shot at by m993 or even if you're a soldier for that matter, that round isn't very common.

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:19 PM

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low fox trauma padding is such a stupid concept

It isn't cuz even if the plates used have shit energy absorption it doesn't hurt you too much

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like steel

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what the russians had to use due to shit budget for like 14-16 years

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even to today to some units

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kinda surprised the Americans never thought of this

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and again airflow

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so you don't overheat in all the armor you are wearing

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:38 PM

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acoustic harbor kinda surprised the Americans never thought of this

cause we dont need it

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our plates are rated in a way where the acceptable deformation has 0 chance of harming you if it's rated for the round

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:38 PM

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well there is still AR 500 dennis

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:39 PM

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those aren't rated doe

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:39 PM

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low fox our plates are rated in a way where the acceptable deformation has 0 chance of h...

Gost R deformation is 15-20mms dunno about what the American is

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trauma pads are for the energy not the deformation

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:46 PM

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energy transfer generally isn't a huge concern for ceramic plates

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:52 PM

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They don't absorb everything tho

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:52 PM

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no, but they also don't need to

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:52 PM

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of course

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:52 PM

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trauma pads just really aren't that added value

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that much*

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:53 PM

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just like you said the SAPIs had problems you adepted by beefing the plate

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:53 PM

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it was just a materials thing at the time

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they're way better now than they were then

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:53 PM

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also steel is uncommom in the US

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:53 PM

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used to be way more so

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education changed that

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:54 PM

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how did you then never consider trauma pads

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like nowadays it's not that usefull for the US

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but back then

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:54 PM

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because a cracked rib or two was way within fighting parameters

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adrenaline had dudes so juiced up they didn't even really notice alot of the time until after the fact

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:54 PM

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and airflow?

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:54 PM

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airflow wasn't an option innate to the kind of equipment that was used

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it's better now, but back then

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:55 PM

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you mean kevlar everywhere? so you can't get airflow or what?

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:56 PM

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yeah

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those dudes were wrapped in a bunch of shit

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kept them alive

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:56 PM

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the russians used trauma pad like systems since the Afghan war where they were covered with kevlar and titanium

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:56 PM

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but it was hot

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:57 PM

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and you never thought of that?!

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HOW?

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inside of a 6B3

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shit and simple but some airflow

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and padding

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 5:58 PM

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i dunno, i dont work in armor development

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neither do the people who buy new shit for troops apparently

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 5:58 PM

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Just surprises me a lot

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seeing that the US really was behind the soviets in armor development

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when were SAPIs first issued?

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the original sapis

visual rune Mar 25, 2022, 6:02 PM

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there are plenty of plate backers these days

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but they exist mostly for comfort, not for impact

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if you're taking accurate rifle fire you have worse problems than comfort

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 6:18 PM

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acoustic harbor when were SAPIs first issued?

a while ago

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almost been 2 decades

acoustic harbor Mar 25, 2022, 6:37 PM

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damn

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that's nothing against 6B5s tbh

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who were issued like nearly 4

low fox Mar 25, 2022, 8:27 PM

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doctrine was pretty different back then

low fox Mar 26, 2022, 1:19 PM

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modest flame

Gen z soldiers

left flax Mar 26, 2022, 2:12 PM

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My mordor tac suit 💀

timber fog Mar 26, 2022, 3:06 PM

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I'd put a light on my gun before I put one on my head tbh

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But that's just me

left flax Mar 26, 2022, 3:35 PM

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I've got one for my gun too

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Will prolly take off the helmet one as it imbalances it

acoustic harbor Mar 26, 2022, 3:56 PM

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left flax My mordor tac suit 💀

it's not even a 6E2 wojak_empty

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just some random ass flashlight

left flax Mar 26, 2022, 3:57 PM

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Yeah lol

acoustic harbor Mar 26, 2022, 3:58 PM

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pouchsetup seems accurate althoug NewGen pouches are rare as fuck

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and the Medkit is like nonexistant in use

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I can't comment on the RPK really cuz you go for a more AK 12 looking setup

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but RPK 16s are mainly used by SOF

left flax Mar 26, 2022, 4:03 PM

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That's it all there in a better angle if ya wanna comment on how it looks atm

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Radio is on back and med is on right cummerband

naive maple Mar 26, 2022, 5:37 PM

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it looks like you're on the wrong continent

coarse laurel Mar 26, 2022, 5:48 PM

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acoustic harbor Their jewish kek

Lol what’s wrong about Jewish

low fox Mar 26, 2022, 5:49 PM

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eft_GoodUsec

coarse laurel Mar 26, 2022, 5:50 PM

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Don’t think religion should have a bearing in gear quality

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Lol

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On the topic of the shouldering issue with the K19 I haven’t had an issue since I adjusted my shoulder straps

left flax Mar 26, 2022, 5:56 PM

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naive maple it looks like you're on the wrong continent

Nah

twin pecan Mar 26, 2022, 7:12 PM

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echo jay Mar 27, 2022, 2:44 AM

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nice bait

left flax Mar 27, 2022, 2:57 AM

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Cry about it

acoustic harbor Mar 27, 2022, 7:51 AM

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It's not even accurate so yeah, it hurts even more

coarse laurel Mar 27, 2022, 8:07 AM

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There’s no valor to be stolen

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froggyJerry

left flax Mar 27, 2022, 9:44 AM

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coarse laurel There’s no valor to be stolen

On god 💀

left flax Mar 27, 2022, 9:45 AM

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acoustic harbor It's not even accurate so yeah, it hurts even more

My mate is getting me real marine ones soon so

burnt tulip Mar 27, 2022, 10:54 AM

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twin pecan

*multicam

acoustic harbor Mar 27, 2022, 11:52 AM

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left flax My mate is getting me real marine ones soon so

Morpeh dennis

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Overdone af

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I love my Motostrelki :))))

left flax Mar 27, 2022, 11:53 AM

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acoustic harbor Overdone af

im fine with that. its not overdone here in scotland

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never seen ratnik in my whole time playing at all actually

acoustic harbor Mar 27, 2022, 11:53 AM

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15th seperate amazing

left flax Mar 27, 2022, 11:55 AM

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god digi flora is hot

acoustic harbor Mar 27, 2022, 11:56 AM

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Would recommend you getting the 5th Layer VKBO from BTK

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and maybe the 8th Layer Jacket

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that would cover every season

left flax Mar 27, 2022, 11:58 AM

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only got 4th layer atm

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defo got plans on getting more though

acoustic harbor Mar 27, 2022, 12:00 PM

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left flax only got 4th layer atm

Mordor Tac...

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It works for now but I would recommend swapping it for a BTK uni

left flax Mar 27, 2022, 12:02 PM

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In all honestly, it's not that bad, it feels really good, and surprisingly good quality

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Will scoop up the real deal when I see something though

acoustic harbor Mar 27, 2022, 12:02 PM

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left flax In all honestly, it's not that bad, it feels really good, and surprisingly good ...

Will still get you - Kosher Points

left flax Mar 27, 2022, 12:02 PM

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Yes

acoustic harbor Mar 27, 2022, 12:03 PM

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I also would recommend you getting a 117 as Morpeh doesn't usually wear pouches on the vest

left flax Mar 27, 2022, 12:05 PM

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I'm actually keeping my eye out for one atm, I know someone selling one

acoustic harbor Mar 27, 2022, 12:08 PM

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Camden

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lowest he can get you one for is 175

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but those are mostly presets like Rifleman

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I decided myself for the full kit

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most comfortable 117 loadout no cap

left flax Mar 27, 2022, 12:13 PM

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Looks noice

torpid prism Mar 27, 2022, 1:39 PM

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Just ordered a scav vest for an upcoming cosplay convention

compact dagger Mar 27, 2022, 6:28 PM

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because most if not all people here are incapable of doing something on their own or starting something new

left flax Mar 27, 2022, 6:45 PM

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Lol what

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I have my own patch, I'm wearing the Russian flag on it because it's Russian

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It doesn't affect you whatsoever

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You accused me of stolen valour or some shit lmfao

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Like, it's a country flag

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Fair enough

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It's for airsoft tho

acoustic harbor Mar 27, 2022, 6:50 PM

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I do lmao?

left flax Mar 27, 2022, 6:51 PM

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Nono it's fair enough

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But, its for airsoft. I'm not connected to Russia, or pretend to be

acoustic harbor Mar 27, 2022, 6:52 PM

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I am not aswell but I'm already collecting their shit for my personal studies so why not reenact

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I'm not a US Citizen

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I like my chonky russian Carriers

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Currently getting this one delivered to me

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aswell as a New 6B45 with plates, because my Old one wasn't that good for the impression I'm making

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and I didn't have plates back then

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oh the ukrainians

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Most army issued stuff is moszly full thorax coverage

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as well as Police

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But yea I'm the same opinion that kevlar coverage is a must

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I don't want to get pierced by Shrapnell even if it's rare

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i got sideplates so I got delts covered

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obliques

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sry

naive maple Mar 27, 2022, 7:15 PM

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have you ever tried wearing armor

acoustic harbor Mar 27, 2022, 7:40 PM

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not really

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I think a full plated Glad C set (sideplates) is like 11-12 kilos

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and you have full thorax coverage, deltoids, groin, and a complete collar

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a 6B45 is like 8 Kilos with 5A plates

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the times of armor being uncomfortable and heavy are over

low fox Mar 27, 2022, 7:45 PM

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gear has no country affiliation anymore

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you know how you'd tell me from the finnish or danish

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if we were all in full kit

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who cares

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if it isn't an in service patch and not for re-enactment

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literally who cares

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also it's pretty unlikely you're gonna be a shrapnel casualty unless you're in an actual warzone

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when was the last time you saw a bombing happen

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thats not a question even i can answer

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i legitimately don't remember

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there hasn't really been a major bombing incident in the US in a minute

spring oar Mar 27, 2022, 7:48 PM

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Stolen valor is claiming you're a so and so member of whatever military and you've done these things in a active warzone

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Airsoft cosplaying isn't stolen valor

low fox Mar 27, 2022, 7:49 PM

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basically falls under re-enactment

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nothing to trip over some little kids dressing up

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if that's what drives their interest in the military or guns/gear

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go nuts

low fox Mar 27, 2022, 9:04 PM

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Imagine reenactment being stolen valor lmao. Ah yes, this uniform that hasn't been used since the damn ottoman empire existed and Khartoum was under siege from Mahdists is me trying to steal valour sshhdoge .

acoustic harbor Mar 27, 2022, 9:09 PM

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low fox Imagine reenactment being stolen valor lmao. Ah yes, this uniform that hasn't be...

There are 2types of reenactment, Modern and Historical

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And Modern could well fall under szolen valot

low fox Mar 27, 2022, 9:10 PM

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could you not tell the statement was dripping with shitpost energy

acoustic harbor Mar 27, 2022, 9:10 PM

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that's why we don't use Ranks

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oh sorry misinterpreted

low fox Mar 27, 2022, 9:10 PM

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I do living history

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I am literally the Anglo guy here

ornate kettle Mar 27, 2022, 10:26 PM

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acoustic harbor Currently getting this one delivered to me

what is this , i know its fort , but what is the full name of this thing ?

acoustic harbor Mar 28, 2022, 3:48 AM

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ornate kettle what is this , i know its fort , but what is the full name of this thing ?

MTP Gladiator S

acoustic harbor Mar 28, 2022, 4:31 AM

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also called just Gladiator C

ornate kettle Mar 28, 2022, 11:42 AM

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damn , this do be good shit , best i can get my hands on is defender 2 , or emerald but my wallet would suffer

acoustic harbor Mar 28, 2022, 11:55 AM

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On a gladiator it suffers way more wojak_empty

vital patio Mar 28, 2022, 12:48 PM

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Thats a realy small vest looks like its made for a child

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It looks kinda ieuw but i get it

left flax Mar 28, 2022, 12:59 PM

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And probably not functional enough lol

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Rip every other organ

acoustic harbor Mar 28, 2022, 1:08 PM

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left flax Mar 28, 2022, 1:13 PM

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acoustic harbor

Fr

vestal pond Mar 28, 2022, 1:43 PM

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acoustic harbor

https://tenor.com/view/fcdk-boma-ongemakkelijk-gif-24630856

Tenor

gritty goblet Mar 28, 2022, 4:48 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890688078623166509/956976691413131284/IMG_20220323_154101.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890688078623166509/956976692348452924/IMG_20220323_154409.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/890688078623166509/956976692956647465/IMG_20220323_154535.jpg

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Latest find

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New still sealed, with a sealed filter and protective suit

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And some goodies

mental token Mar 28, 2022, 8:26 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT059hCJKFk

YouTube

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▶ Play video

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Idk if this has been posted here but some interesting testing.

shut compass Mar 28, 2022, 9:52 PM

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I just bought it and It feels great

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I might get killed for using multicam black

mossy obsidian Mar 28, 2022, 9:55 PM

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shut compass I might get killed for using multicam black

Why is that

low fox Mar 28, 2022, 9:55 PM

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its multicam black

shut compass Mar 28, 2022, 10:01 PM

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twin pecan

This is why

twin pecan Mar 28, 2022, 10:02 PM

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Lol

void swan Mar 28, 2022, 11:04 PM

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shut compass

dog u so ugly

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im bout to cry

modest flame Mar 29, 2022, 12:59 AM

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shut compass

Cring

echo jay Mar 29, 2022, 1:18 AM

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low fox its multicam black

seconded

cinder stream Mar 29, 2022, 2:04 AM

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shut compass

improperly fitted carrier

low fox Mar 29, 2022, 2:39 AM

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Multicam black is made for people who do not care about camo, for home defense or airsoft it’s fine, if you cared about camo or had reason to you shouldn’t ever buy multicam black, anything black in general. If you want dark, stone/steel gray or blue gray is best

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bruhcat

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Other than that it seems to fit you well, protects your vitals, good purchase, good job getting a plate carrier

echo jay Mar 29, 2022, 2:45 AM

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low fox Other than that it seems to fit you well, protects your vitals, good purchase, g...

this assumes there is plates in it

acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 3:30 AM

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mental token Idk if this has been posted here but some interesting testing.

Oxide made a better one

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also that's a K6-3 not an altyn

echo jay Mar 29, 2022, 3:31 AM

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acoustic harbor Oxide made a better one

oxide is also things I am not allowed to say on this server

acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 3:31 AM

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if garand thumb shot an actual altyn I would've shot him

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also I love how he spend 2k on it

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but K6-3s go in factory mint condition for 700

shut compass Mar 29, 2022, 4:00 AM

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echo jay this assumes there is plates in it

I ordered plates

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But very cheap ones because I’m a kid and I’m probably not going to get shot any time soon

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I’ll be sure to adjust the size im quite the small individual.

acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 4:30 AM

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shut compass But very cheap ones because I’m a kid and I’m probably not going to get shot any...

is it AR500?

nimble hinge Mar 29, 2022, 7:06 AM

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acoustic harbor but K6-3s go in factory mint condition for 700

where are you looking? i can only see $1500+

acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 7:07 AM

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nimble hinge where are you looking? i can only see $1500+

I have contacts lmao

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Buying from ebay is only worth it if you know the priceranges

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here

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they can go as low as 450

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but those are beat to shit

nimble hinge Mar 29, 2022, 7:12 AM

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most ominous thing ive ever seen

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i mean. i guess it is rough with russias armor laws along with everything else, but the handgun png with that line of text was so "startling" to see, i guess

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anyway though thanks, its hard to find sites for ruskie gear that isnt 80% replicas

left flax Mar 29, 2022, 7:18 AM

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acoustic harbor here

My mate got one for 160 somehow

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You can get insane deals if you know people

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This mfer

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Dude has all kinds of shit, has one of those stoopid kevlar suit things too

acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 7:27 AM

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left flax Dude has all kinds of shit, has one of those stoopid kevlar suit things too

which fragsuit?

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Grenadier, Raid L, Frotress, Mod K or Mod T

left flax Mar 29, 2022, 7:30 AM

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Not sure in all honestly

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It's a very dark blue black color, that's all I got on it

acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 7:31 AM

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Fortress

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those are like

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600-800?

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would need a Grey Mod K aswell as a Grey Kiver for my FSB Kit wojak_empty

left flax Mar 29, 2022, 7:32 AM

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800 bucks Gott damn

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My whole kit costs that, dayum

acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 7:35 AM

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the whole USO C fragsuit kit would run for about 3700 cheapest

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up to 5k

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if I get Glad Plates and the other shiz

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But I'll probably do just Glad with Kiver or another helmet + UF Pro Striker XT set it'll be like

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about 2.5 maybe 3k

left flax Mar 29, 2022, 7:40 AM

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Ooft

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Pricey

acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 8:18 AM

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Yes

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wojak_empty

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would love to test the Glad plates but they are fuckin 'spensive

left flax Mar 29, 2022, 8:50 AM

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Rn I just want proper insertions for my 6b45

low fox Mar 29, 2022, 5:25 PM

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Demych and Camden

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Just pray during shipping

acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 5:30 PM

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low fox Just pray during shipping

I do be praying rn

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or 1.7k are down the drain wojak_empty

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dgbakery.site or just shoot demych a dm on IG or Facebook, same as Camden thouth he prefers facebook

stiff nacelle Mar 29, 2022, 5:32 PM

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Got the tarkov vest

acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 5:33 PM

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M1?

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or M2?

stiff nacelle Mar 29, 2022, 5:33 PM

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M2

acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 5:33 PM

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looks nice

acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 5:34 PM

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acoustic harbor I do be praying rn

first part passed

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second part ships this friday

left flax Mar 29, 2022, 5:40 PM

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stiff nacelle Got the tarkov vest

Lmk how it is, been wanting an Ana PC for a while, unsure of how decent it is

stiff nacelle Mar 29, 2022, 6:22 PM

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acoustic harbor looks nice

Yep
Show MVD kit

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Hows AK optic

acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 6:48 PM

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stiff nacelle Hows AK optic

I'm sellin it rn

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need money for GM 94

acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 6:48 PM

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stiff nacelle Yep Show MVD kit

still wip

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didn't get gorka

left flax Mar 29, 2022, 6:57 PM

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Gorka kinda cringe

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And overused tbh

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Comfy and good for hiking tho

dusty fiber Mar 29, 2022, 8:08 PM

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gritty goblet Latest find

please, tell me you didnt buy from mira

gritty goblet Mar 29, 2022, 8:11 PM

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dusty fiber please, tell me you didnt buy from mira

Negative. lol

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Fuck Mira.

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Aint paying that 300 bucks

dusty fiber Mar 29, 2022, 8:11 PM

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gritty goblet Fuck Mira.

based

gritty goblet Mar 29, 2022, 8:12 PM

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Got it from a czech surplus

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Took me a few months to snag one

dusty fiber Mar 29, 2022, 8:13 PM

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gritty goblet Got it from a czech surplus

i am looking foward to getting an italian m90, looks goofy, me like

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acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 8:22 PM

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left flax Gorka kinda cringe

yes it is

gritty goblet Mar 29, 2022, 8:23 PM

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dusty fiber

Hey that's a cool one

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Never seen one

acoustic harbor Mar 29, 2022, 8:23 PM

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but I would still need it for Both MVD 2014 and DNR kit

gritty goblet Mar 29, 2022, 8:23 PM

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I'm looking for a swedish and swiss gas masks now. but they're haaard to find

dusty fiber Mar 29, 2022, 8:34 PM

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gritty goblet I'm looking for a swedish and swiss gas masks now. but they're haaard to find

i can hook u up to a gas mask discord server, they also have a facebook group in which they sell masks, you may be able to find them there (they also do sales in the server)

gritty goblet Mar 29, 2022, 8:42 PM

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Noice, ty

left flax Mar 29, 2022, 8:47 PM

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acoustic harbor but I would still need it for Both MVD 2014 and DNR kit

Tbh I'd only wear one if I'm wearing an altyn and a defender or sumthin

twin pecan Mar 30, 2022, 12:52 AM

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modest flame Mar 30, 2022, 3:12 AM

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Jpc2 cirnohappy

barren kettle Mar 30, 2022, 3:22 AM

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please tell me you dont use that chair for anything other than putting clothes on

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my backpain is screaming

modest flame Mar 30, 2022, 3:23 AM

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Yes

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That's all I use it for lol

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I have a nice gaming chair I actually use

barren kettle Mar 30, 2022, 3:23 AM

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okay good

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jpc looks good tho 👍

modest flame Mar 30, 2022, 3:24 AM

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Thanks babe

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orchid swan Mar 30, 2022, 3:42 AM

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Ok I'll simp for that

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I mean gun

acoustic harbor Mar 30, 2022, 4:32 AM

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left flax Tbh I'd only wear one if I'm wearing an altyn and a defender or sumthin

not even Kosher

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Partisan suit would be better

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I don't even know where the Gorka Altyn Shit even originated from

left flax Mar 30, 2022, 7:28 AM

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twin pecan

Poor dude looks sad

low fox Mar 30, 2022, 12:14 PM

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left flax Poor dude looks sad

he’s going through his robert pattinson batman phase

left flax Mar 30, 2022, 12:24 PM

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low fox he’s going through his robert pattinson batman phase

It's not a phase MOM

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Still warps my brain with the same pfp, kinda got thrown into a wall thought I replied to myself or soemshit

low fox Mar 30, 2022, 5:56 PM

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It has different thermal modes being black hot white hot and rainbow and a 4x zoom with a range up to a 1,000 yards

left flax Mar 30, 2022, 5:57 PM

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Damn expensive thing to donate, but anything helps them

low fox Mar 30, 2022, 6:01 PM

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left flax Mar 30, 2022, 6:12 PM

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Man that's dope

vital patio Mar 30, 2022, 6:32 PM

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No they got the most high tech gear almost every nato country Is donating drones bug copters Javelins all kind of stuff

orchid swan Mar 30, 2022, 6:41 PM

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Man donate me one too

slow zealot Mar 30, 2022, 6:45 PM

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Bruh isn’t that the eyeglasses company

barren kettle Mar 30, 2022, 6:48 PM

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yeah

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they make rifle scopes as well

orchid swan Mar 30, 2022, 6:48 PM

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slow zealot Bruh isn’t that the eyeglasses company

Optics in general actually

low fox Mar 30, 2022, 6:50 PM

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slow zealot Bruh isn’t that the eyeglasses company

I really don’t care, it’s a quality thermal spotter

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0,5x-4x magnification 50hz and a range of 1.000yards

slow zealot Mar 30, 2022, 6:52 PM

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Why’d you get a spotter instead of a scope?

mossy obsidian Mar 30, 2022, 7:07 PM

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You said they requested it right?

low fox Mar 30, 2022, 7:07 PM

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mossy obsidian You said they requested it right?

I did

mossy obsidian Mar 30, 2022, 7:08 PM

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There’s your answer

acoustic harbor Mar 30, 2022, 8:23 PM

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3k down the drain tbh but if you got that money lying around dennis

left flax Mar 30, 2022, 8:38 PM

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If you got that money laying around

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My birthday is in 2 months, Gen 2 PNVs please thanks

low fox Mar 30, 2022, 9:09 PM

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send it to me

subtle cosmos Mar 30, 2022, 11:14 PM

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twin pecan Mar 31, 2022, 3:22 AM

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People act like they never heard of a credit card

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😮‍💨

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What?

twin pecan Mar 31, 2022, 3:49 AM

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I guess not?

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 5:20 AM

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speaking of medical shit, im a combat medic if anyone has any medical questions for combat trauma related shit ask away

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 11:12 AM

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From what I remember in my medical class while in BCT you basically use hemostatic gauze and get the person to safety/surgery

visual rune Mar 31, 2022, 1:46 PM

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AH I FUCKING FOUND IT

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@coarse laurel http://forums.equipped.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=145132#Post145132

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thank fuck he reposted it somewhere else

barren kettle Mar 31, 2022, 2:06 PM

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holy shit

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dudes a walking trauma center

visual rune Mar 31, 2022, 2:25 PM

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man said PULL UP

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like homie stop buying guns and befriend your local trauma surgeon

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 2:36 PM

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In the case of twitch spasming under your rib cage, have you been working out like doing chest exercises lately?

In the case of internal bleeding you can’t do much about it without having to perform surgery. If it does occur you need to get to a trauma ward ASAP. Internal bleeding would also mean like a GSW or blunt force trauma to the thoracic cavity, if it’s blunt force you can’t do much so yeah get to the hospital, GSW-wise I would focus on plugging the holes with a chest seal to prevent total respiratory collapse then get to the nearest hospital ASAP

The solutions I’m recommending btw is for people with no medical experience but as a trained medical personnel I would do certain things:

In the case of internal bleeding one of the ways I can confirm is to use ultrasound if available, the main priority is to get them to the next level of care ASAP since we can’t treat that injury at the point of injury. Internal bleeding isn’t really as big of a deal compared to hypovolemic shock and respiratory collapse in the short term.
In the case of penetrating wound In the thoracic cavity i would use chests chest seals on the entry and exit wound, auscultate the chest to check for equal rise and fall of the chest then apply Needle chest decompression if the lungs are starting to collapse at the third intercostal space just above the third rib mid axillary or the 5th intercostal space just above the 6th rib. I can also do chest tubes I wouldn’t do it at the point of injury unless it’s needed since it’s an invasive intervention, following that I would naturally administer my meds like 2g of TXA slow push via IV or slam it via Intramuscular (this is to help with the clotting factor), and 1g of Ertapenem (it’s an antibiotic), in the case of pain medication I would avoid anything that will lower the casualties’ respirations so I would use 30mg of Ketamine IF it’s absolutely needed. Then Reassess/retake vitals every 5 minutes until medevac/casevac arrives

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 2:36 PM

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compact dagger From what I remember in my medical class while in BCT you basically use hemostat...

You would be surprised how many motherfuckers can’t do it properly

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 2:38 PM

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visual rune <@!154409267514966018> http://forums.equipped.org/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Nu...

Lol that Blackhawk STOMP bag was my first aid bag in my first unit

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That shit weighed like 60lbs

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I left that motherfucker in the humvee and opted to carry a lighter M9 aid bag

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And I carried everything he had with the exception of the laryngoscopes

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I carry this Mystery Ranch RATs airborne bag nowadays

left flax Mar 31, 2022, 2:43 PM

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Oh man, that's awesome stuff dude

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 2:43 PM

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I have traction splints and a SAM Junctional Tourniquet on the side MOLLE and this is what I take on patrols

left flax Mar 31, 2022, 2:43 PM

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If I get wounded in the apocalypse, I'm crawling to you

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 2:44 PM

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Before that though I carried this big mofo

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The difference between this and the STOMP bag is you can take it apart and take the front trauma pack with you and just leave the bigger part of the bag in the truck

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Also it holds more IV bags

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Front panel has my usual trauma shit

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I carried cricothyroidotomy kits too

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And then just OTC meds and random smaller bandages for sick call

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I carried narcotics like ketamine, fentanyl etc on a secured case that’s basically considered a Sensitive Item so it’s always on my person at all times

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Can’t have that shit getting stolen and I have to sign for it and keep accountability on it at all times

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 2:51 PM

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visual rune AH I FUCKING FOUND IT

Lol this shit is from 2008, a lot of the stuff he has we don’t even use anymore

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 2:51 PM

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coarse laurel You would be surprised how many motherfuckers can’t do it properly

you mean civs or military guys ?

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 2:51 PM

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Both

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I have to do refresher class often

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 2:52 PM

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regardless, its stressful as fuck especially if you don't have to do it often ( so not a dedi medic/lifesaver )

visual rune Mar 31, 2022, 2:52 PM

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coarse laurel Lol this shit is from 2008, a lot of the stuff he has we don’t even use anymore

yeah it's a fine vintage

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and just a regular_dude

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to be clear

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 2:53 PM

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Lol when I was a private I had an NCO I was teaching try to treat the casualty at the point of injury

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I was fuckin livid

visual rune Mar 31, 2022, 2:53 PM

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the newer med bags are so fancy

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 2:53 PM

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hmm yes, i too like getting shot at while treating a gsw guy

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 2:53 PM

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Kicked his ass at the back of the line I didn’t even let I’m finish

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You may outrank me but I’m the the authority when it comes to medical shit lol as per 1SG’s orders

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 2:54 PM

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Open field, man down, hmm yes i will now risk my life and maybe put my team in danger to save one life

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 2:55 PM

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I try to keep it simple too but it seems people watch too much movies

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Lol hell even in hacksaw ridge you don’t see him treating on the X

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God damn folks

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Best medicine is fire superiority

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 2:56 PM

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better yet, go out to help him, get shot, and then your team dies because they have infection on their right toe that you couldn't treat because you wanted to save the guy before having him to crawl back into cover

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or smth

heavy fjord Mar 31, 2022, 2:56 PM

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coarse laurel Best medicine is fire superiority

Damn straight

visual rune Mar 31, 2022, 2:56 PM

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https://www.adeptarmor.com/product/rf3-armor-plate/

Adept

admin

RF3 Armor Plate | COLOSSUS - Beyond Level IV - Adept Armor

The Colossus is a future-proofed RF3 armor plate, built strong enough to counter most modern AP threats today's and tomorrow.

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compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 2:57 PM

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@coarse laurel you recon it's necessary to carry the trauma pad that you can put behind the plate ?

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like medpouch thing

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 2:57 PM

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Circa 2019 I was teaching my MP’s my job just in case I go down lol

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 2:57 PM

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some of our guys were planning to buy it

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 2:57 PM

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compact dagger <@!154409267514966018> you recon it's necessary to carry the trauma pad that you...

It depends on the plates

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 2:58 PM

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can only tell that it's ceramic, can and try find pic of it

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 2:59 PM

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Consensus is you don’t

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When it comes to us medics

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Also only time you need something like that is if you are wearing steel and even then you shouldn’t wear that in actual combat

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Not saying you shouldn’t but it’s not necessary

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:00 PM

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yea dis

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:01 PM

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Yeah it’s the same as our ESAPI plates

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Shouldn’t be needed

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:01 PM

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ah ok, cuz always weirded me out, that the stuff in that pack is mostly for thorax injuries iirc, but then you have plates that protect you from that shit

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:01 PM

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Funny thing is it will still fucking hurt and crush your ribs even with the padding

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It won’t really help with the back face deformation

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The only thing I can see those pads being used for is for steel plates like I said

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:02 PM

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I think you misunderstood me

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meant these kits

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maybe bad wording from my side

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:02 PM

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OH

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:02 PM

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most likely*

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:03 PM

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Lol go for it

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I’d suggest the back plate if possible

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:03 PM

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?

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:03 PM

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Putting that pack

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:03 PM

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as in wearing it on your back ?

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ah

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:03 PM

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On the back plate

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Yeah

obsidian garden Mar 31, 2022, 3:04 PM

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compact dagger as in wearing it on your back ?

dont want a bullet going through your medical gear

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:04 PM

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The concern is it might limit your movement

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Also u shouldn’t be getting shot in the back coward

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Hahahaha

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:04 PM

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I don't trust my teammates to not shoot me in the back

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:04 PM

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Oh then that’s different

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froggyJerry

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:05 PM

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that's why i am doing my driving license for C category so I will be in the ~~safety~~ vehicle

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basically nothing we have at our unit is armored

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except old mercedes JDs

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:05 PM

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Plenty of space on the agilite

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:06 PM

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but i'd rather be on my 6wheel ATV than in one of those death boxes

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damn your carrier is clean

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smh HQ rat spotted

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:06 PM

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Lol I threw it in the wash

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Fuck no

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:06 PM

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heh

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:06 PM

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I’m a fuckin line medic

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Also it’s fairly new

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:07 PM

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yea, treating those sore thumbs that they get while making stuff on the computers

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 3:07 PM

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coarse laurel

wot Plates you got?

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ESAPIs?

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:07 PM

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acoustic harbor wot Plates you got?

Yep

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I got 2 pairs

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I use one for work since it was issued then I got my personal ones

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 3:07 PM

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fun fact, russian granit 5As are better in multihits than esapis

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:08 PM

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compact dagger yea, treating those sore thumbs that they get while making stuff on the computer...

I’m actually in an armored company lol

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I deal with crushed hands

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:08 PM

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i'm just teasing you

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:08 PM

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And deglobing

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 3:08 PM

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coarse laurel I’m actually in an armored company lol

Striker?

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:09 PM

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I had a guy lose 4 fingers because the moron didn’t move his hand out of the way of the ammo door

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:09 PM

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acoustic harbor Striker?

Nope

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Heavy so Abrams and M113’s

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 3:09 PM

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Ah the movable heat source

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:10 PM

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Abrams hand hater

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my beloved

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:10 PM

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I ride on both, I have my own crew for the M113 but I also act as a loader for the Hq Abrams as a medic

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:10 PM

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saved me from freezing my fingers off while in display in Germany

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:10 PM

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Damn straight lol

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In Korea we did the same

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 3:10 PM

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germany, freezing? what

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:10 PM

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It was so fuckin cold

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:10 PM

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just step behind it for a minute and you are as good as new

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:10 PM

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acoustic harbor germany, freezing? what

was there mid january

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it was wet and cold

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and I was the one freezing

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 3:11 PM

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don't you guys have gloves?

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:11 PM

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was smart enough to not take the issued winter gloves there

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cuz hated them at BCT since didn't help me from cold for some reason

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:12 PM

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Korea be like

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:12 PM

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also forgot to take 2nd duffle bag, lucked out that we had some spare used MRE boxes so I could just rebox mine, sign it and send it back

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otherwise would have to throw some of them out

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:12 PM

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Fuck I hope I don’t have to go back again for awhile

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:13 PM

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Also it feels that our AT unit will be disbanded soon

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feelsbad

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 3:14 PM

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coarse laurel Korea be like

that's nothing compared to the 20-40cm of snow here in winter with -13° C

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:14 PM

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where's here ?

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 3:15 PM

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Austria

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Kärnten

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:15 PM

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ah

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 3:15 PM

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in Klagenfurt like - 20 degrees is standard afaik

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:15 PM

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Lol we get up to -25 around the DMZ

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At the worst

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 3:16 PM

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damn

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:16 PM

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In the picture though that’s in the southern part of Korea but around the DMZ it gets fucking cold I just take solace at the fact that the NORKS are fucking dying to hypothermia on the other side

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froggyJerry

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 3:16 PM

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probably trolle

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:17 PM

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This is around Pocheon which is like 15 min drive from the DMZ fence

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:20 PM

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this is what we had for most of the time while in Germany

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and even more snow, this was one of the first days of us being there

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but tbf, i'd rather take a lot of snow than a lot of rain

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:21 PM

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Korea was literally all rain and humidity then harsh winter

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:21 PM

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yea fuck that

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:21 PM

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Like there’s no moderation to that place

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I blame the North Korean weather control devices

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:23 PM

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they can't keep getting away with this

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 3:23 PM

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I hated wearing all that cold weather gear

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Makes it a hassle to take a dump

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Lol

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Taking off all those layers

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:24 PM

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heh

naive maple Mar 31, 2022, 3:25 PM

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just stop shitting

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problem solved!

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:25 PM

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while in Allied Spirit I had 6 layers of clothing for top of my body

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and 4 for bottom

compact dagger Mar 31, 2022, 3:25 PM

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naive maple just stop shitting

tbh

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be like me, shit 2 or 3 times in 10 days

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problem solved

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 4:19 PM

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coarse laurel Also only time you need something like that is if you are wearing steel and even...

The US doesn't use trauma pads because they're more or less useless, but you do need soft armor

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anyone saying soft armor is not required for their ESAPIs is not only a massive idiot, but should immediately be stripped of any authority for endangering their troops with misinformation

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 4:20 PM

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Lol this was from the BDE surgeon

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 4:20 PM

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he's an idiot

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i dont care if he can slice people open

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is he a material science engineer too?

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 4:21 PM

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This is why we got the green light from Brigade to wear plate carriers

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 4:21 PM

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sigh..

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someone is ate the fuck up

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ESAPIs are not standalone

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they have never been standalone

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the reason that it'll fuck you up if you get shot wearing an ESAPI is because someone neglected to add the soft armor required for the armor to achieve its rating

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because unless you got slammed, it literally isnt possible to do more than crack a rib

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the specifications were tested to that exact manner

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the reason the BFD cannot exceed X mm is so that x injury is impossible to receive when equipment is worn correctly

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wear your soft armor bro, its not a gamble worth taking

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there are countless soft armor backers out there that will fit in plate carriers

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 4:23 PM

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So we got new plates RFI’d to us, explanation is that New Gen ESAPI’s are standalone plates

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 4:23 PM

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The VTP ESAPIs?

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 4:23 PM

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That was the explanation anyways

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 4:23 PM

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or the actual Rev Js

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id check

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if they're the VTP ESAPIs then maybe, haven't seen any official guidance on those

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if they're revision Js or below

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absolutely not

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check your plates out when you get the chance, it should say what revision they are on the plate

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 4:26 PM

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I’m going to get more clarification when I get back to work on Monday

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 4:27 PM

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👍

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 4:27 PM

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I think they are VTP

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Though

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Since it was RFI’d

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CIF mofos also made us turn in our black and old green ones back

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 4:31 PM

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if they're VTP they might be standalone, haven't actually seen the instructions on the VTP ones, wasn't aware they were even being fielded

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but if they aren't

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https://govtribe.com/file/government-file/spe1c118r0033-esapi-copd-0419-rev-j-dot-pdf

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last revision was J, here are contract and ballistics specifications

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 5:27 PM

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low fox The US doesn't use trauma pads because they're more or less useless, but you *do...

well they do a pretty good job of ventilation and they dampen impact, they are not useless but standalone is standalone

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and wait ESAPIs NEED softarmor?

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BRUH

sturdy hound Mar 31, 2022, 5:29 PM

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Has someone a MON50 Pouch?

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 5:30 PM

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acoustic harbor well they do a pretty good job of ventilation and they dampen impact, they are n...

to perform to spec?

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yes

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there is no telling how they'll perform without the

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m

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i've heard rumors the VTP ESAPIs were standalone

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but theres little to no data on them

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i wasnt even aware a contract had been awarded for them yet

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at least to produce them

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they're also several times lighter than comparable russian plates so 🤷‍♂️

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:02 PM

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my 30$ gun

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the most expnesive part was the tape ;/

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:05 PM

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low fox they're also several times lighter than comparable russian plates so 🤷‍♂️

we literally talked about it and they weigh the fucking same as 5As

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the 5As are even lighter compared to size

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as the size 2 5As are 2.7 kilos and are the size of the large ESAPIs who weigh 2.83

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that's just uninformed Cope

mossy obsidian Mar 31, 2022, 6:29 PM

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low fox

That’s the first airsoft muzzleloader I’ve ever seen

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:39 PM

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acoustic harbor we literally talked about it and they weigh the fucking same as 5As

how much do granits weigh?

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:40 PM

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read

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6As are about 3.1 in size 2

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:42 PM

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garbage

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anyway

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:42 PM

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low fox garbage

?

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:42 PM

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6 pounds for a standalone plate is atrocious

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and we've definitely talked about that before

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:43 PM

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The ESAPI still is heavier

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:43 PM

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yeah for a large

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i have no idea what size 2 equates to in russian anyway

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:43 PM

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lemme get size 1s quick

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:43 PM

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low fox i have no idea what size 2 equates to in russian anyway

regular hight

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:43 PM

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size 1 and 2 means nothing to me

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what are the dimensions

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:43 PM

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i fit size 2 being 175cm

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and about a Large

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:43 PM

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bro what are the dimensions of the plate

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:44 PM

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lemme get em real quick

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314x265

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mm

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:44 PM

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me when i have to convert this measurement to american

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ok

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and thats a size 2?

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:45 PM

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12.36 by 10.4

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:45 PM

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low fox and thats a size 2?

yes

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:45 PM

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10 x 12 is a medium in american sizing

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:45 PM

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yep

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:45 PM

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why would a medium plate be heavier than a large

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large esapis are like 11 x 13

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:46 PM

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I talked with a guy and he said they are more comparible with larges

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:46 PM

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that doesnt make any conceivable sense

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:46 PM

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but then a Medium is 2.5 kilos

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:46 PM

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10x12 is the standard medium sizing

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like globally almost

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theres no possible way a medium is comparable to a large

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:47 PM

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only 200 grams heavier, and that's massively more?

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:47 PM

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try almost half a pound

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:47 PM

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several times lighter i quote

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:47 PM

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and thats before we get into the total system weight

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half a pound per plate for objectively inferior materials

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🤷‍♂️

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:48 PM

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6B45 weighs 3 kilos standalone

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without plates

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add 5.4 kilos

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so 8.4 kilos for a whole vest

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size 2

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:49 PM

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do they have side plates?

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:49 PM

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6B43 was tested with sides but they dropped em shortly

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so no

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but tehinkom sells commercially available ones so it is able to accept some

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:50 PM

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idk what the MSV gen 2 weighs since i wasn't issue one

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but the new ESAPIs about to be issued report a 14% weight reduction maximum over previous plates

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:51 PM

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also are ESAPIs able to withstand 57-BZ-231 7.62x39R API?

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:51 PM

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dunno, they aren't tested for them

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we dont test any of our plates for API

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not normally anyway

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:51 PM

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sorry x39 not 54R

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:51 PM

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they can easily handle 54R

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and boron carbide is heat resistant by nature

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the answer is "probably" but i cannot say yes

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:52 PM

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to the knowledge of the internet ESAPIs are rated up to M80 Ball

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:52 PM

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they simply aren't tested for them

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absolutely not lol

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they haven't been rated for M80 ball since 2008

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:52 PM

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what did they get rated for nowadays?

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I want to take in comparison compability too

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:53 PM

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the last revision was like 3 hits of 54R, and a bunch of other shit

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there's a charge going over the full specs of the plates i posted earlier

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chart*

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well

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not a chart

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but an entire document about what is required of them

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:53 PM

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May you repost?

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 6:54 PM

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https://govtribe.com/file/government-file/spe1c118r0033-esapi-copd-0419-rev-j-dot-pdf

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 6:58 PM

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Damn velocity reports but no actual ammo

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I'm too lazy for math today

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:03 PM

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low fox the last revision was like 3 hits of 54R, and a bunch of other shit

but what 54R?

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Gost R 50744-95 alone uses 3 different kinds, being LPS, 7N13 (MTS-2) and B32

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:05 PM

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i dunno

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there's probably some internal memo

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:06 PM

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wojak_empty

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:06 PM

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oh

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steel cores

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:06 PM

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AP steel cores?

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:06 PM

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yeah

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i think?

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i don't know how russia classifies AP ammo

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7N1 it seems like

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:07 PM

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AP is for example 7N13, having a MTS-2 bullet hardened steel core

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API would be B32

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:09 PM

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gonna have to go through the contract and find out for sure

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:09 PM

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7N1 is 9.8g bullet at app. 820 m/s

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151.2 grains

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weighs 4 grams more than MTS-2

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so it is comparable to it

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:10 PM

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Yeah it seems like that's probably it

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:10 PM

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so it would be between 5A and 6 Rating after Gost R 50744-95

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:10 PM

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There are plates rated for more

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:10 PM

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what's the backspace deformation max?

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:10 PM

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But those are issued on a case by case basis

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:11 PM

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low fox But those are issued on a case by case basis

same with the russians, Granit 6As are used by SSO or VDV and SSO also gets the bonkers Fort Plates

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both plates are rated for B32 as 6A is the max protection level although the Forts have no problem stopping M993

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they should be comparable to XSAPIs i think

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:19 PM

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m993 is an ancient round though

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its being replaced by new ADVAP ammo

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same with M995

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:26 PM

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low fox its being replaced by new ADVAP ammo

ADVAP?

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also to my knowledge M993 and 5 were never adopted

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jusz tested

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:27 PM

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no they were

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both adopted and used

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:27 PM

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But is the advap stronger than Swiss P AP?

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12.7g (196 grains) bullet with tungstencarbide core penetrator at 810 m/s

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:29 PM

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Unknown as of now

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:30 PM

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ffs

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like why tf can't you just give us some damn spreadsheets

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damn you us government

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:31 PM

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Because if they were

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The russians would be developing armor to stop it before it even left production

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:32 PM

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well I'm doubting it would be used as a against infantry ammo, but as I'm aware of the fuckload of military budget (that must be compromising for smth) it will be

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I love how the US just has a military budget of the 26 countrys behind it combined

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:33 PM

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Armor piercing ammo generally isn't

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Aside from in sniper rifles

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M993 was used in sniper rifles and 240s

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:33 PM

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I was just gonna say 240s

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:34 PM

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All of that aside XSAPIs are around for places where we expect to be facing API/AP threats

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:34 PM

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Are 240s even carried by MG gunners anymore?

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:34 PM

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Yeah

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It's the only MMG in our inventory

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Everything else is bigger or smaller

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:35 PM

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so it is like the PKP with the russians (although the PKP being a GPMG)

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:35 PM

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More or less yeah

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We have the 249, the 240 and there's basically nothing above that

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:35 PM

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IAR is RPK, M2 is Kord so on and so forth

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:35 PM

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Well, not conventionally anyway

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The US Army doesn't use IARs

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There is a 338 Norma MG now

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:36 PM

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I thought they were adopting it to get rid of the M249?

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:36 PM

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As well as a 6.5 Creedmoor machine gun

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Nah that's a SOCOM project

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:36 PM

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low fox There is a 338 Norma MG now

why tho

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:36 PM

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I'm not really sure what the need for it was

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:36 PM

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like how heavy is one of those

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:36 PM

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Less than a 240 weighs

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lol

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:36 PM

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I know for a fact a unloaded PKP weighs 8.7 kilos

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:37 PM

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The MG338 is like 21 pounds

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vs the 240's like 234

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24*

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oh 27 actually

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yeah the MG338 is 7 pounds lighter

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:37 PM

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low fox The MG338 is like 21 pounds

9.5 kilos

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:37 PM

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and slings some serious weight

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heat*

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FUCK

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:37 PM

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not bad for a .338 mg

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although the recoil would be necessary to consider?

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like .338 NM makes some serious forces

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:41 PM

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acoustic harbor although the recoil would be necessary to consider?

barrel reciprocates to compensate

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I've put some rounds through it before, it's pretty sick

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kinda reminds of me the ship batteries from star wars

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:42 PM

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low fox barrel reciprocates to compensate

like the GM 6 or Barret?

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:42 PM

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acoustic harbor like the GM 6 or Barret?

Yeah

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:42 PM

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noice

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although it does look a little weird

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in proportions

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:43 PM

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a small price to pay for blowing holes in walls with a machine gun

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:44 PM

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also the Belts seems kinda weird to handle

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:44 PM

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It's not any more difficult than regular belts

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:44 PM

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but why does it look like the mg has a magwell

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but puts a weird belt box unto it

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:45 PM

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not a magwell just a better feed tray

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:46 PM

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also I think the stock could be replaced with a more hefty PKP/PKM style one, would prolly make it heavier but would please the mind

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imho

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 7:46 PM

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i mean

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it's a buffer tube

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you can use whatever stock you want

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that's a CTR stock

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but any stock can be used

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something like a VLTOR IMOD would be better but that's not how they come from the factory

acoustic harbor Mar 31, 2022, 7:47 PM

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still to small for my liking

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also no hole or grip to put your hand unto when firing

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What i especially like on the PK stocks an PT 2

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but if others like it and it works well I can't comment

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 8:03 PM

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You mean prolonged field care?

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Most important thing for a makeshift facility to treat folks is anywhere with temperature control, believe it or not hypothermia is a killer when it comes to trauma

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Everything else I can handle with what I got but only for a day or two

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Yes

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Ready heat blankets are a thing

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Also the foil blankets too

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Yeah

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The main point is to prevent the lethal triad: Acidosis, coagulopathy, and hypothermia

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Acidosis meaning whatever blood’s PH level you have left can’t maintain itself, coagulopathy which is coagulation factors like blood clotting and then freezing to death

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They all go hand in hand in making someone die

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Acute blood loss

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Basically massive hemorrhaging

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Your body tries to compensate and produce something you don’t have (shitty explanation) the PH level of your blood goes out of whack

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Whole blood transfusion

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They started training us to literally use walking blood banks

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Since blood needs temp control

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They taught us to identify a donor beforehand so if someone needs blood I do a direct transfusion

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The Rangers pioneered this shit and we followed

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For coagulopathy we inject someone with TXA, current guy guidance had us giving 2grams straight from a needle or a slow push via an IV

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Depending on the situation

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tranexamic_acid

Tranexamic acid

Tranexamic acid (TXA) is a medication used to treat or prevent excessive blood loss from major trauma, postpartum bleeding, surgery, tooth removal, nosebleeds, and heavy menstruation. It is also used for hereditary angioedema. It is taken either orally or by injection into a vein.Side effects are rare. Some include changes in color vision, blood...

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Yes ish

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Trying to find a good explanation but you are mostly right, the kaolin on those quick clots will help clot external injuries

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The issue is the little gauze left over will be surgically removed later lol

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It’s still kinda invasive

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People forget that for quick cloth you don’t just put it on top of the wound

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I have to shove it in the hole

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It’s gonna hurt

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Haha

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But yeah TXA does the overall work

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You know how quick clot is literally gauze with kaolin?

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That goes inside the GSW

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If u have secondary packing like gauze it doesn’t go inside

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Just goes on top

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What I would do is pack the quick clot in the wound, use gauze for secondary packing then use an emergency dressing or ace wrap for pressure

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Yes

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It is

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Make sure you read the package and confirm it had kaolin

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The green combat gauze

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Anything with kaolin or a chemical that helps with clotting is a hemostat

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If it’s just gauze then it’s just gauze

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Lol

low fox Mar 31, 2022, 8:27 PM

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coarse laurel

what's the SOP for line unit IFAKs looking like these days

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just curious

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 8:27 PM

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https://deployedmedicine.com/ @low fox is my best resource

Deployed Medicine

coarse laurel Mar 31, 2022, 8:30 PM

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low fox what's the SOP for line unit IFAKs looking like these days

Contents are at the discretion of BN medics, usually the bare minimum is:
1-2 Chest seals (Hyfins are preferred)
Combat Gauze
NPA w/ lube
CAT TQ
Small durapore tape
Small ETD

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Oh and an NCD

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Almost forgot lol

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The newer IFAK’s can fit all those no problem

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If u have the old style one with the clip it would take abit of compressing

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As the company senior medic I regularly inspect IFAK’s from my company and replace expired shit and to make sure it’s up to my standard

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Also to make sure fuckers are using the pouch for pogey bait

abstract granite Mar 31, 2022, 8:49 PM

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Here is my dog

left flax Mar 31, 2022, 9:01 PM

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That's a dog for sure

mossy obsidian Mar 31, 2022, 9:05 PM

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abstract granite Here is my dog

What breed?

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He looks part heeler

abstract granite Mar 31, 2022, 9:06 PM

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Ya she is a red heeler

naive maple Mar 31, 2022, 9:06 PM

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bro why did you take a picture of your dog while its shitting

mossy obsidian Mar 31, 2022, 9:06 PM

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Based

naive maple Mar 31, 2022, 9:06 PM

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look at how undignified that poor dog is

mossy obsidian Mar 31, 2022, 9:07 PM

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naive maple look at how undignified that poor dog is

Just mag dumping

abstract granite Mar 31, 2022, 9:09 PM

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naive maple bro why did you take a picture of your dog while its shitting

My wife sent me it I just figured I’d only share this photo with sophisticated individuals like yourselves

left flax Mar 31, 2022, 9:14 PM

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Here's my dog :)

abstract granite Mar 31, 2022, 9:24 PM

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They really need a pets thing in here

naive maple Mar 31, 2022, 9:48 PM

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left flax Here's my dog :)

😭 ❤️

brisk garnet Mar 31, 2022, 10:06 PM

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boreal elk Mar 31, 2022, 10:09 PM

#

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Can confirm this is hard to open.

low fox Apr 1, 2022, 5:52 AM

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no

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unless you're EOD or a gunner

low fox Apr 1, 2022, 6:31 AM

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fuck and no

acoustic harbor Apr 1, 2022, 6:42 AM

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No

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Unless you are like CT or someone stationary full head coverage is just too heavy and cumbersome

acoustic harbor Apr 1, 2022, 8:02 AM

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brisk garnet

Black K6

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Replica I guess?

brisk garnet Apr 1, 2022, 8:31 AM

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Yeah sadly titanium is too expensive to find

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Far too pricey for me atm but maybe one day I'll get one

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Other stuff is real that I wear though. Gas masks and such I mean.

acoustic harbor Apr 1, 2022, 8:34 AM

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brisk garnet Yeah sadly titanium is too expensive to find

ever heard of Demych?

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like a beaten up K6 is like 450

brisk garnet Apr 1, 2022, 8:35 AM

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Not familiar no

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Ah

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Okay shit

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Wish I knew

acoustic harbor Apr 1, 2022, 8:35 AM

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mint is 700

#

brisk garnet Apr 1, 2022, 8:35 AM

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Are they titanium or some form of crappy steel?

acoustic harbor Apr 1, 2022, 8:36 AM

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They are titanium

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why shouldn't they be

brisk garnet Apr 1, 2022, 8:36 AM

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Usually civilian model helmets are not as sturdy cause of price

acoustic harbor Apr 1, 2022, 8:37 AM

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N*gga that's og FSB shit

brisk garnet Apr 1, 2022, 8:37 AM

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Then that's awesome and I may grab one

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K6-3 helms are not altyns they are civilian models that's why I asked lol

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Some of the reproduction ones are not the proper material so if those are original that's dope

acoustic harbor Apr 1, 2022, 9:03 AM

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brisk garnet K6-3 helms are not altyns they are civilian models that's why I asked lol

that's bullshit

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K6-3s are lower cost alternatives to Altyns

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and were more massproduced

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last Altyn version to be produced was the R2M

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that was about 2001-2 iirc

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K6-3s are still seen today in very small quanitites

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The LShZ 2DT and 2DTM also was tested to replace it

compact dagger Apr 1, 2022, 9:32 AM

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brisk garnet Usually civilian model helmets are not as sturdy cause of price

basically all stuff from Demych is the real MilSpec deal

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None of the people that I know that order from him have had problems with the armor

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and that helmet still reminds me that I want to buy a highcut helmet but no money to spare atm

sweet breach Apr 1, 2022, 9:40 AM

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compact dagger basically all stuff from Demych is the real MilSpec deal

Link?