irl-gear

[radiant glade]

send it

[low fox]

yeah but i rant with purpose

you're at this point a literal schizo

[coral pivot]

Ok

[radiant glade]

eat yo meds

[coral pivot]

You see my name, yeah?

[radiant glade]

Manic

[coral pivot]

I coulda sworn that shit was obvious.

[low fox]

sent

[radiant glade]

Deadman

[low fox]

change the dead to tardman

and we'll be cooking with gas

[radiant glade]

thx

[coral pivot]

Fuck, I might.

[low fox]

i know you will

because i've beaten you into the ground and now you've submitted to me

[barren kettle]

i applaud him for sticking around so long though, i would have turned my computer off 30 minutes ago

[radiant glade]

teabag him

[coral pivot]

Oh man, you really believe that?

[low fox]

this is one of my few pleasures in life

believe that?

i know that for a fact

[coral pivot]

lol

[radiant glade]

he is like
"I may be an idiot but I still have my tough guy attitude!
Grrrr!"

[low fox]

that and choosing the inferior AR platform

[coral pivot]

Tough guy? Wasn't aware I was doing anything tough.

[low fox]

you're doing the toughest thing of all

being a literal monkeybrained idiot

[radiant glade]

Bruh its all in the pfp

[low fox]

and then doubling down on the stupidity

[coral pivot]

Talking to you? You're right.

[radiant glade]

Taking his pounding like a champ?

[low fox]

i guess talking to me would be difficult for a chimp

but even chimps can learn

[radiant glade]

taking it like a chimp

confused and in pain

[coral pivot]

I'll admit there were some things I was wrong about but you're over there beating your chest like you won something here.

[barren kettle]

if only harambe was wearing ceramic instead of steel that fateful day, he would still be with us

[coral pivot]

If anyone is monkey brained, it's you dude.

[radiant glade]

ook ook gorilla mode

[radiant glade]

[coral pivot]

Though, you did say polyethylene wasn't plastic. It absolutely is.

[low fox]

?

i literally didn't

[coral pivot]

Also, AR500 is a company, not a type of Armor.

[low fox]

you do understand

that AR500

[coral pivot]

I don't.

[low fox]

is in reference to the STEEL

right?

AR500 is a kind of STEEL

[barren kettle]

🤣

[coral pivot]

They make several different kinds of armor though?

[low fox]

AR1000 is also a kind of STEEL

hey i sold armor

you know what the AR in AR500 steel means?

i await the google response

[coral pivot]

Enlighten me.

[radiant glade]

Eating cotton candy from yo hand cuz you a circus clown

[low fox]

oh nothing?

word

[barren kettle]

armalite rifle?

[low fox]

abrasion resistance

lmao

it's referring to the steel's abrasion resistance

which is why there is also AR1000, etc

[radiant glade]

my sponge has an abrasive side

[coral pivot]

What does that have to do with body armor?

[low fox]

Yes, AR500 is a company

But it's a play on the kind of steel they sell

lmao

[radiant glade]

it is the type of steel it is made of

bruh

[low fox]

AR500 the company is "armored republic"

the kind of steel they sell is also ar500

how do you not understand this

it's cool wordplay and marketing

[radiant glade]

they also sell AR600 now, I was just on their website

[low fox]

people do it literally all the time

[coral pivot]

This all started because I asked what you thought of the company and you jumped into some tirade about metals and fragmentation.

[low fox]

you didn't ask me anything

you just spouted garbage that i happened to see when i got back

[radiant glade]

fragmentation decapitated Harambe cuz of his steel plates

[coral pivot]

Sorry, "you" as a general term.

I figured that was implied when you were the one that responded though.

This has been a rather decent conversation though. I've learned a fair amount, I appreciate your time.

[low fox]

cool, as long as you stop shilling shitty armor

[radiant glade]

Based on what he said I dont think he sells anything

he sells his FIR armor in Tarkov

[coral pivot]

I sell archery stuff. Bows and arrows etc.

[radiant glade]

haha bet

What straightness is on gold tip brand arrows?

their better stuff
they probs have some crap I dont know about

[coral pivot]

.003"? Better stuff? It's gold tip, gross.

[radiant glade]

bruh its .001

[coral pivot]

Get Black Eagles.

[radiant glade]

I havent shot in a minute but I bought the .,001 stuff

[coral pivot]

My dude, pretty much every arrow is offered in .001 to .003

[radiant glade]

my dad has the .001 black eagles

[coral pivot]

That's just the spine stiffness between the other arrows in the box. Like match weighted ammunition.

Sorry, spine deflection.

[radiant glade]

What was the name of the bowtech bow made for Jim Shokeys Daughter

if you sold any bow to a woman she bought it

[coral pivot]

Oh god, I have no idea. My store doesn't sell bowtech or Mathews, we're too close to another dealer.

[radiant glade]

Mathews?

[coral pivot]

They were jsut there sooner, we have another location that does sell them though.

Is it Matthews? I can never remember.

I prefer Hoyt/Prime over anything else.

[radiant glade]

You know Ive nevver had a Hoyt

[coral pivot]

I've got the Ventum 33 80#, no complaints.

[radiant glade]

I believe him on this one guys

[barren kettle]

you sell bows and arrows? name every bow and arrow

[radiant glade]

lol

[coral pivot]

The body armor thing was a drop shipping store I started when I was like 17 for a quick buck.

Fuck, Easton has like 40 different arrows alone. Screw that noise.

[radiant glade]

that explains a bit

[coral pivot]

I really don't understand why it became such a big problem, I was wrong about a couple things and just going off of what I had learned back then. I'm sure ceramics and fibers have come a long way since then but steel (with an antifragmentation medium) has always stopped bullets as far as I remember. My bad for not knowing as much as I could have about the Poly plates. Only reason I asked about AR500 was because they has a buy one get one sale on plates and carriers today, figured you guys would be the ones to ask.

[radiant glade]

Lol thats the internet for you
Limitless knowledge, limitless trolling

[coral pivot]

Fair enough.

I do work for a company that has DoJ and LE programs though, I will try to get the Ceradyne and LTC catalogs.

[radiant glade]

I think that guy ripped into you so hard is because before you knew about the modern stuff you were giving people outdated info

[coral pivot]

Understandable, I did learn quite a bit about the new stuff. Can't help but fuck with someone who gets that worked up over something though.

[radiant glade]

good time was had by all

[coral pivot]

Oh, did you know Ted Nugent made a set of Gold Tips that has a Zebra pattern on it? Like, wtf? So weird.

[radiant glade]

He made them or was it an arrow wrap?

[coral pivot]

The arrow shaft itself is a Zebra print, they're mass production.

I know we're way off topic of gear but, yeah.

So, full circle I guess, would you EDC armor if things got much worse? I've got an old 80s style kevlar vest that I've debated wearing in public, just can't get over the whole "if it penetrates then you have kevlar fibers inside of you" thing.

[low fox]

if i had a dollar for every time someone has said "i was only pretending to be a chimp to mess with you xDDD"

man..

i'd be a wealthy man

[coral pivot]

Oof, maybe stop being a dickhead on the internet bud.

It's possible to have an actual conversation with someone.

[low fox]

you do not converse with fools

[coral pivot]

Then I'

m done talking to you.

[low fox]

perfect, perhaps the brain cells i lost talking to you can rest in peace

[mossy obsidian]

Ooh nice

I need to get a new bow

[coral pivot]

Prime Inline 3

I'm getting a Hoyt RX-7 myself but that's, ahem, a perk of the job.

[mossy obsidian]

Yeah well, any new bow would probably be an upgrade

I’ve got a Mathew’s solocam

Shoots great, but it’s 15 years old now

[coral pivot]

Oof, yeah. Great for the time but, that time has passed, lol.

[mossy obsidian]

I’d love to go and shoot a few, but my bow shop shut down last year

Out of business, covid restrictions killed it

The guy there was super knowledgeable

[coral pivot]

My shop is right outside of city limits so we were only forced to wear masks for like 4 months as the state made it and only for one week since then when that whole OSHA bs was going around.

[visual rune]

Gotta pay to play

[radiant glade]

It's funny you said so because I'm actually shopping around for an EDC vest

I think if you get shot by a pistol with level IIIA you wouldn't have any crap getting inside you but even if you did get shrapnel from your armor it is far better than eating a hollow point bareskin

Even if the round beats the vest I'd rather get hit with a round that my vest ate 80% of the energy and have a bunch of splintery crap in my flesh than have a round go straight in and my vitals absorb 100% of the energy

[low fox]

Mine were free :^)

[vagrant rock]

Made armbands for my kits for airsoft

[acoustic harbor]

are those the fuckin gayshop suits?

[left flax]

Looks awesome dude

[left flax]

Bruh, shut

[acoustic harbor]

nah

[left flax]

:(

[acoustic harbor]

At least GreyShop has discount so I don't have to pay those outrageous prices for some pouches

[cinder stream]

greyshop is overpriced repro surplus

[acoustic harbor]

repro

some surplus

whole lotta commercial stuff

especially that mordor tac and bastion stuff, horrendous

also the worst 6B2-5 replicas I've ever seen

[left flax]

Tbh I just want a wartech 102 from them

And now is a good time with that discount

[acoustic harbor]

I need some pouches, shovel and sling, maybe a plash palatka too

[left flax]

I just hope they aren't sanctioned by the time I'm paid

Or I'll have 0 hope of getting wartech, nobody has them in Scotland

Only one I have sourced, and will use as a plan B is a atacs fg 110

[low fox]

@acoustic harbor help me get an omon/ loadout done. Since grey is on sale kek

I know they are shit but i dont wanna pay stupid money for omon gear

Id do the marines but thry dont do summer VSR

[acoustic harbor]

VSR unis are easy

also Marines uaed Butan unis for a time

[low fox]

I know, but im talking VSR 6b12

[acoustic harbor]

6B13s are designated Marine armors normally

[low fox]

its a 12

[acoustic harbor]

although 6B12s have been seen

[low fox]

Me and bip brainstormed it

https://preview.redd.it/jz1boeci1rx51.jpg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eefb6fc3c8f89b9a572cd40f0eebb7a2b001d587

[acoustic harbor]

ye that one is a 12

[low fox]

I still have yet to figure out what the damn flap on the side of the 6sh is

[acoustic harbor]

by Kirasa

you mean the VOGs?

[low fox]

No

[acoustic harbor]

on the 92?

[low fox]

ill show you its on the shoulder strap

its fucky

[acoustic harbor]

you mean the tootsie rolls?

[low fox]

No

its on the mag vest

https://airsoft-forums.uk/uploads/monthly_2021_02/4519683F-6F8C-4E61-88D8-5F92CFCA49F4.jpeg.b69ea2eb25a2a9ad0af5f41964f5f00e.jpeg

See that square patch on the suspenders

centre right of the pic

right above where the H straps meet on the pic

[acoustic harbor]

could just be fabric

or maybe for a mic

[low fox]

I dont fucking know

It isnt mic i dont think

[acoustic harbor]

radio

i meant radio

[low fox]

i know what you meant

becasue again

these shmucks dont put it there

https://preview.redd.it/jz1boeci1rx51.jpg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eefb6fc3c8f89b9a572cd40f0eebb7a2b001d587

they just clip it on the straps

[acoustic harbor]

then no fuckin idea

[low fox]

Exactly. Thus im thinking of swapping to maybe a degistan rosguard

[acoustic harbor]

if you want

[low fox]

I just hate gayshop

Its out of stock on the shit id actually buy

Like the holster and mags

[compact dagger]

The only store that had genuine stuff for fair price is sadly out of order for now from the mastercard/visa/paypal ban

bet the guy got a lot more gear recently

at least i do hope so

Damn, just checked my room, can't find paper from Agilite giving me access to owner's catalogue which has their stuff for cheaper

to give to my mate

since he wants to order some stuff from them

[urban cove]

Who in here does all 3D printing stuff? I cant remember who it was

[low fox]

Wot u need

Its me neko and seb

[urban cove]

I've really wanted to get into printing but I really dont know where to start

[low fox]

Ender 3 v2

[urban cove]

what sort of filament?

[low fox]

Pla

You can expand from there

Ender 3 is really upgradable

[urban cove]

are there any decent forums that would be good to reference for any questions?

[low fox]

Creality has a discord

[urban cove]

cool cool, you guys use defcad or printed stuff off of there before?

[low fox]

I avoid it

@calm stone

[calm stone]

Sbr it

[low fox]

@worthy heart

Talk printed guns

Not my thing

[calm stone]

I refuse to work with defcad

[urban cove]

any particular reasons? moral? just sketchy?

[calm stone]

If you want a good site to use. Use the Gatalog

[low fox]

I avoid cause of sketch.

[calm stone]

Defcad requires you to pay

Lot of illegal shit

[urban cove]

ive noticed lol

[low fox]

Alot of giggle stuff which can get you for intent

[worthy heart]

Fuck defcad

[calm stone]

I won’t support them because they want to be payed

[worthy heart]

I def don't recommend it

[calm stone]

That’s not what printing is about

[worthy heart]

🥁

[urban cove]

gotcha, so immoral and sketchy lol

[calm stone]

Yeah

[urban cove]

besides pla, any other materials that are good for that kind of stuff?

[worthy heart]

Pla+

[calm stone]

I personally mostly use PLA+

From Esun for myself

Polymaker is good too

The Polymax

[worthy heart]

Glass infused nylon works aswell if you can get your settings right

[calm stone]

ABS is good but need a ventilation setup

[worthy heart]

As much as a hate it PETG is decent

But didn't great for shock

[echo jay]

PEpsi manTG

[calm stone]

PETg is more elastic but has better heat properties

[urban cove]

appreciate it guys, you gave me more info in 15 minutes than i got in an hour of "rersearch" last night lol

[calm stone]

Lol

Well seb prints a bit and I’m a designer

I get a lot of fun info to work with from all the big names and such

[low fox]

I just make cosplay

[urban cove]

i have a few specific things i want to print, but i've wanted to get into it for so long and just never took the step

[low fox]

Its gets tedious sometimes

Im on my 4th or 5th soapstone bird print

[urban cove]

trust me, i have the patience and interest, but i feel like 3d printing falls victim to the same unintentional gatekeeping that plagues a lot of niche hobbies

like the information is out there, but its sorta hard to find

[mossy obsidian]

Just got to know where to look

It’s not difficult to find stuff

People will share even blatantly illegal files

(Don’t do anything illegal)

[urban cove]

of course not!

[calm stone]

What you lookin to make

[urban cove]

well when i was looking at defcad i was interesting in the new version of the BPNVGs, just as a novelty

[calm stone]

Hah

Stubbs

He’s the designer. We all know him personally

[urban cove]

but mostly just printing my own stuff that P80 takes too long to ship

nice

[calm stone]

There are a lot of neat glock frames to most people

Not my think but a lot of people like em

[urban cove]

plus, just general knick-knacks and gadgets for shiggles

i just think its cool

[calm stone]

Yep

[urban cove]

again, thanks yall

i appreciate it

[calm stone]

@spring oar

:)

[spring oar]

[dusty fiber]

are these worth 62€? (EARMOR M32 MOD3)

[low fox]

no

[dusty fiber]

why

[low fox]

because its airsoft garbage and airsoft garbage isnt worth nearly 70 USD

[dusty fiber]

any good headsets you can recommend for a good price?

[low fox]

what's your definition of a good price

[dusty fiber]

not gucci price

[low fox]

that isn't a number, nor useful information

[dusty fiber]

200 or less

[low fox]

at 200 euros, the only thing you might find worth a damn are sordins

save your money and buy something useful

[dusty fiber]

ive actually been looking at some sordins, found ones for 95€ near my town

might buy them

[low fox]

not bad, id say go for it

[dusty fiber]

aight

ill buy em

[left flax]

I had a pair, they suck

[dusty fiber]

what problems did you have with them?

[left flax]

They stopped working after like 40 hours of use

Sounds quality sucks too

[dusty fiber]

fuck, then ill just stick to buying sordins

[left flax]

Good choice man

[acoustic harbor]

be a chad

buy comtacs

[left flax]

Be an actual Chad
Just use your ears and shout at people

Or wear beats and just listen to music

[acoustic harbor]

depends on where you shoot

indoor will fuck your ears into nonexitence

I shot a shotgun some time ago outside, wasn't bad

[coarse laurel]

Got my agilite

Came with stickers and a prayer lol

[low fox]

😔

i dont know anybody in any of our, or any organizations we work with who would recommend an agilite tbh

and for the god damn life of me

why the fuck is the top molle that's actually gonna be exposed tan

but the molle velcro that will be covered is multicam?

[coarse laurel]

Appearance aside what’s wrong with it

I heard issues with the V1 but they came out with this V2 last year ish and idk what the issue is

I might upgrade the cummerbund to first spear tubes tho

[low fox]

too much padding, tubes on both shoulders are known to impede shouldering weapons, not to mention apparent structural issues with those tubes, the quick adjust system being some weird system that could be way better, etc

[coarse laurel]

I don’t mind the padding, I just tested shouldering my weapon and it wasn’t an issue for me with medium sapi plates

The tubes on the other hand are iffy

[wispy echo]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/165325484028?hash=item267e2aaffc:g:4aoAAOSwvQBgxsi1

[acoustic harbor]

is the zip a admin pouch

?

[coarse laurel]

Yup

[acoustic harbor]

seems pretty gucci

especially the qr all over

[acoustic harbor]

do the russian move and put a tootsie roll on either shoulder

no problem with shouldering anymore

and you don't gotta think about what space you need to leave free

[acoustic harbor]

is that a fuckin GPNVG 18 dummy

on a probably bump fast

without even attaching shockcord

11/10 cringys

[modest flame]

Hoplite now has stomach and dick plates

[spring oar]

I too like wearing my weight in armour

[acoustic harbor]

why

and why no side plates

give em unecessary weight but not side plated

like everything in that set is unecessary except the stomach plate

but you could fix that wih just making the plates bigger

[modest flame]

I don't know

They do make side plates actually

They just not in the picture

[acoustic harbor]

like

for a good all round protection the gladiator is a perfect example

Has main and side plate set and I think the Gladiator Plates are actually pretty big, and just layers kevlar ln the whole thorax with availavble collar/neck, groin and deltoids and depending on model an ass protector (A and B) or a soft armored belt (C)

and isn't unecessarily heavy

[runic root]

Israeli garbage 👃

[coarse laurel]

Ok what do you run then hero?

[left flax]

Love this

[acoustic harbor]

if they want to play in that

[spring oar]

Let's not, yeah?

[acoustic harbor]

what?

it's true

[spring oar]

Truth or not, Rule 2 still exists

[left flax]

I think it looks pretty sick tbh

[acoustic harbor]

still ironic

[acoustic harbor]

k

I will not get into detail

[spring oar]

I mean, I agree. But neither here nor there.

[low fox]

i mean, i just dont like agilite that much

it being israeli or not has no bearing on that

[cinder stream]

Femoral plates make more sense than stomach plates imo

[coarse laurel]

I don’t really see the point in all of these just because it hinders mobility

Lol imagine trying to dismount a vehicle with all that shit on

Also the footages of Russians wearing all this chonky shit getting shwacked because they can’t move fast enough apparently isn’t enough to prove that trying to go for a juggernaut type armor set up is such a bad idea

[acoustic harbor]

russian shit isn't even chonky

a 6B45 is like 8 or 9 kilos at most

most normal carriers here weigh that much because shit plates

[coarse laurel]

By chonky I’m talking about it hinders mobility

It doesn’t have to be heavy

[acoustic harbor]

it doesn't trust me, I've worn my 6B45 so long

the 6b23 is another subject

[coarse laurel]

If u can’t articulate you arms because you have deltoid pads on

[acoustic harbor]

that shit is awful

[coarse laurel]

Then u are fucked

Also you legs and your crotch strap and ass pads

[acoustic harbor]

I've seen no deltoid pads

yet

no glads with them

[coarse laurel]

Lol the IOTV we are issued has the neck pads and the deltoid pads and the crotch and ass pads

We took them off

[acoustic harbor]

and 43 deltoids were like already discontinued in testing phasr

[coarse laurel]

I personally kept mine In plastic so I can turn it back in when I leave the army

[acoustic harbor]

crotch strap?

ass pad?

do you mean the sitting mats?

[coarse laurel]

The video I’m referring to are also the guys who tried dismounting their BRDM during an ambush

[acoustic harbor]

you got the vid?

[coarse laurel]

And a lot of them got hit trying to get to cover on the side of the road

Because they were floundering around

Lol it’s NSFL I can’t share it here

[acoustic harbor]

Send it in pm

wanna see what gear they were using

[coarse laurel]

Lol fuckin YouTube took it down

God damnit

[acoustic harbor]

was it conscripts? or trained soldiers?

so the ukrainians got attacked and shot?

being them in the BRDMs

[coarse laurel]

The Russians had BRDM’s later on

[low fox]

do you have the helmet cam

[acoustic harbor]

I've only seen them in very small numbers, more BTRs and BMPs

[low fox]

or do you have a file drop of ukraine footage you can send me

[acoustic harbor]

by far more

[coarse laurel]

I saw it on YouTube I’m trying to find a reuploaded version of it

[low fox]

i need footage

[coarse laurel]

It was such a cluster because I saw these poor mofos having issues trying to move to cover

And dismounting their Vics

[acoustic harbor]

well there isn't any

and BRDMs are crammed as shit

when where they first issued? 60s?

[coarse laurel]

Yeah

[acoustic harbor]

also they would need to run uphill giving them a huge disatvantage

[coarse laurel]

Lol also you were asking about the pads

[acoustic harbor]

yes

the deltoids right?

[low fox]

here is the thing donut

Specifically the current ratnik is a fucking chore

[coarse laurel]

Lol for us

It has all of that shit

[acoustic harbor]

I heard IOTV is very shit

[low fox]

IOTVs are basically gone

[coarse laurel]

Hahahahah HELL No

We still use em

[low fox]

IOTV was made for vic survivability from what i remember

[acoustic harbor]

the 6B45 is a fucking luxury in weight compared to an IOTV lmao

what plates were used with them?

ESAPI?

[low fox]

Sapi

[coarse laurel]

We use ESAPI

[acoustic harbor]

because 5A Granits outperform ESAPI

[coarse laurel]

With the IOTV’s

I personally don’t wear it

[acoustic harbor]

a guy I know tested them

[acoustic harbor]

what you wearing then?

[coarse laurel]

I keep mine clean for when I turn it in

[acoustic harbor]

own plates?

[coarse laurel]

I wore this

[acoustic harbor]

oh I thought you meant the plates

but yeah being a medic running around in that thicc mess must be pain

[coarse laurel]

I was talking about how I didn’t use that shit because it sucks

The Gen IV IOTV’s are good though but they gave my unit Gen 2’s

Even though we are a deployable unit

[low fox]

mfw i have a full IOTV in ACU because some guy dumped his with the point blank plates for 50 bucks

[acoustic harbor]

Would like to see how a Gladiator Compares to a IOTV, they have a similar philosophy but the glad can be way smaller

this is a basic glad kit with no attachments for reference

[coarse laurel]

Lol idk if u can see it but it’s on the top of my closet next to my stetson

I don’t use it, those assholes in Ft bliss CIF gave me a UCP one

[acoustic harbor]

Universal cringe pattern

[coarse laurel]

After I turned it my Gen 4 OCP IOTV in Korea

[low fox]

guy didnt want his anymore

[coarse laurel]

Lol a lot of people in my unit wear plate carriers for this reason

[low fox]

so i got it for cheap

[coarse laurel]

Half the infantry dudes run with JPC’s

[acoustic harbor]

Platecarrier with kevlar support or just plate itself?

[coarse laurel]

Tankers run with other assorted plate carriers

Everyone has backers

[acoustic harbor]

i mean like thorax not only behind the plate

wrong ping

[low fox]

I need to find a good backer for some plates once i order the Greyshit Shell

[coarse laurel]

What do you mean

[low fox]

Yes, im going to use a greyshit carrier

because why not

[coarse laurel]

Grey shit?

[low fox]

greyshop

[acoustic harbor]

Like on a Gladiator just to say, those habe full upper body coverage of kevlar, especially As and Bs (that's a C) even in their most basic form

[coarse laurel]

U mean Russian shit from grey shop?

[low fox]

shitty russian repro shit

[coarse laurel]

Lol like the wartechs

[low fox]

nah the Shell

[coarse laurel]

Bro someone in my unit is running around with a war tech

[acoustic harbor]

not everything

[low fox]

Dagestan impression

[coarse laurel]

Some crazy military intelligence guy

[low fox]

HA

[coarse laurel]

In multicam naturally

[low fox]

thats gotta be a sight

[left flax]

I'm getting a 110 lol

[coarse laurel]

People are none the wiser

[acoustic harbor]

well wartechs are cheap and pretty higj quality foe their price

[left flax]

Can't get a 102, 110 next best thing
Kinda

[low fox]

I mean i was gonna order some more shit but payment is fully fucked ATM

[coarse laurel]

Ayy my mystery ranch assault pack is here

[low fox]

so im getting an IO 38/44 build kit

[acoustic harbor]

here's what I mean @coarse laurel

with kevlar support

[coarse laurel]

Fuck no

We don’t do that shit

[acoustic harbor]

would be practical though for a infantry man, most casualties are frag

[low fox]

not worth the tradeoff of cost

[coarse laurel]

Fight light, don’t get hit. Also even if someone does get shot the medics do a great job so survivability is up

That’s what our doctrine is during GWOT

[acoustic harbor]

Kevlar is mostly for frag, not gwtting shot

[coarse laurel]

Even still

The vehicle crews on the other hand

[acoustic harbor]

and I think you can't outrun a funny grenade

[coarse laurel]

Wear Kevlar vests

[low fox]

IOTV is great for vic crews

[acoustic harbor]

don't they have their own shit

[low fox]

anyone else

[coarse laurel]

Tankers wear their chicken vests

[low fox]

HA

[low fox]

im talking MRAP gunners specifically

[acoustic harbor]

also I wouldn't say so, becuase being that fat in a cramped Tank is kinda shit

i imaginr

[coarse laurel]

Lol I wear my plate carrier in a tank

[low fox]

hence why they have the vests

[coarse laurel]

As a medic I’m also a loader

[low fox]

i still find that funny

[coarse laurel]

I keep mine low profile that’s why I don’t wear double stack pouches

[acoustic harbor]

Imagine having a loader... and not have your turret fly some meters when getting shot

[coarse laurel]

Keep most of it in my war belt so I can toss it in the hatch in a hurry

Well we’re undermanned

[low fox]

they're dying because they suck

the greatest PSYOP of all was the russians convincing us they were an actual force to be feared

and here is LMT, the god of this chat

and they got us god damn fuckin' good

[coarse laurel]

I mean why would I have the supply clerk as my 113 driver sometime? Because we don’t got enough people lmao

[low fox]

from the top to the bottom, we were all fooled

[low fox]

MFW i made a shit ton of money due to raytheon and other defense stocks going brrrrr

[acoustic harbor]

how many mags you normally carry

?

[coarse laurel]

Standard loadout 240

Is my unit SOP

Also 3 pistol mags

[low fox]

I just wonder what this means for Chinese analysis as if we were this wrong about the russians

[low fox]

i thought about it

i was a fool

[acoustic harbor]

so, 8 mags?

of 30 rounds

[coarse laurel]

Yes

[low fox]

7+1 in gun right?

[acoustic harbor]

damn, same as the russians

[low fox]

or 8+1

[coarse laurel]

Also extras in my assault pack

7+1

[low fox]

we all were fooled

me when stetson

me hen cav

[coarse laurel]

And 2+1 for my M17

[acoustic harbor]

ah okay then 1 mag less than teh russians

[low fox]

gluck gluck gluck

[acoustic harbor]

they do 8+1

[coarse laurel]

@acoustic harbor I have extras in my flat pack or my assault pack

[acoustic harbor]

I thought you were a medic not a supplier?

[coarse laurel]

Or in my vehicle

[acoustic harbor]

/ammo bearer

[coarse laurel]

Lol everyone has extras

We also crossload

I have people in my PLT carry medical supplies

[low fox]

line units are so fuckin' weird

how many belts

1 or 2

[coarse laurel]

1

With 2 placards

[low fox]

they literally send rangers to every line unit to try and unfuck the line units

[coarse laurel]

1 medical focused and the other for shooting

[low fox]

and they're somehow STILL fucked up

they dont learn jack SHIT

[acoustic harbor]

line units?

[low fox]

so what, 12-16 belts floating about give or take in a tank platoon

line units = conventional maneuver units

infantry, cavalary, artillery, etc

[acoustic harbor]

ah

[coarse laurel]

Lol not everyone runs war belts though

[low fox]

LMT, shut you psyops spook

our ranger regiment has a doctrine that forces its officers and i think some NCOs to go back to the regular army

[acoustic harbor]

also what is the US doctrine like? it doesn't seem to be as speed and vehicle focused as the Russians

[low fox]

to share their knowledge there

[acoustic harbor]

especially with tanks

[low fox]

and it works for like 2 years

and then they go back to being a bunch of tards

[coarse laurel]

My HHC commander is a ranger and he is kinda meh

Being a ranger doesn’t make you a good manager necessarily

[low fox]

no, but they're not there to be good managers

[coarse laurel]

By ranger I’m talking tabbed and scrolled

[low fox]

they're there to effect conventional army doctrine

[coarse laurel]

Not just tabbed

[low fox]

only rangers are scroll boys

tab does not count

[coarse laurel]

We are also an armored unit so we have more leeway

[low fox]

but i digress

i mean, you're also in a cav unit

and cav is not something that exists in batt

obivously

the most they have are strykers

[coarse laurel]

LOL hell no, I had a Stetson because I was a scout before

[low fox]

oh

i thought you were in a cav unit or something

[coarse laurel]

I’m in a fucking Combined arms battalion right now, 2 tank companies, 1 IN company, HHC then FSC

In 1AD land

[low fox]

that entire concept is garbage

they need to go back to regiments

[coarse laurel]

Lol we out perform everyone in this brigade which is funny since we are a jack of all trades

[low fox]

i mean yeah, but the concept still sucks cock

theres a ton of talk of abandoning the BCT concept entirely

[coarse laurel]

If it means we dont have to go back to Korea everytime I end up in a heavy unit In forscom then so be it

Idk about you but I’ll be in tradoc in ARTB for 4 years while this all blows over

[coarse laurel]

We have light units and heavy units, even the heavy units are more mobile than the Russian counterparts

[low fox]

idk what russia's obsession with armor is

[coarse laurel]

It sucks practicing though because we do it every year in NTC

[acoustic harbor]

obsession with armor?

[coarse laurel]

Fucking moving every 8-12 hours

[low fox]

yes

they literally stack armor at every level of their formations

[acoustic harbor]

they tried to get lighter

[low fox]

and it's just getting fucking exploded everywhere they g

o

[acoustic harbor]

or do you mean vehicles?

[low fox]

yea

[acoustic harbor]

I thought you meant infantry

bodyarmor n shit

[coarse laurel]

Imagine setting up a 1068 and the OE-254 antennas then breaking them down to move the phase line forward in a. Few hours

[low fox]

i haven't set up an OE-254 in years

[coarse laurel]

Also the DRASH tents

For command and medical

We gotta be mobile as fuck

[low fox]

these all sound like problems i cannot relate to, as i am an enabler

i will be with my JLTV if you need anything

[coarse laurel]

It sucks in NTC because it’s the literal desert lol

[low fox]

good talk

[coarse laurel]

We have JLTV’s now too thank god

No more shitty humvees

Except for the mechanics and their contact trucks

[low fox]

What i find funny about russian armor is they knew the fucking turrets like cosplaying burans when hit and yet they have not fixed the underlying issue, which is the autoloader

[coarse laurel]

[acoustic harbor]

doubt, but could be, current invasion is going really shit, dunno who gave the go on that plan, lotta conscripts, old gear, fuel and ration issues

[low fox]

since atleast fucking Afghanistan they have known

[coarse laurel]

We also never outrun our supply lines

[low fox]

yeah but that's because our supply lines are monstrous

[low fox]

cough cough Gulf 1 supply dumps

[coarse laurel]

That’s what they did they thought they can do the same thing they did in Georgia in 2008

[acoustic harbor]

VDV drop in air contested zone without ground support ...

[low fox]

it's cause we learned the hard way what happens when you fuck around with your loggy

god someone did a cost estimate for those gulf 1 dumps

so much money

guys doing supply convoys were getting jumped every run in iraq and early afghanistan

[coarse laurel]

Our loggies are also armed to the teeth now lol

[low fox]

they were seeing more combat than infantry dudes, and they didnt even have shit then

[acoustic harbor]

they use autoloaders to make the tanks more smaller, mobile and harder to hit, also needing 1 person less means more teams, more tanks, mor expendability

[low fox]

i know why, but im saying im shocked they havent tried swapping autoloader types

[coarse laurel]

Which is a stupid idea anyways because it fucks with your fire rate and reliability also it’s one more BS to fix

[low fox]

Im not against the autoloader, im against the specific implimentation

[coarse laurel]

Bro I’m not even a tanker and I can load in 3-4 seconds

[acoustic harbor]

every autoloader does that pretty much, good hit into the ammo chamber everything blows up

[low fox]

not the french

[coarse laurel]

I can send rounds down range 4 times before they can get the next shot in accurately

[acoustic harbor]

but i think they kinda fixed it on the T90M

[low fox]

HA\

no

[coarse laurel]

Meanwhile we can keep shooting while moving at 50mph on uneven terrain

[acoustic harbor]

they also made an extra compartment for extra ammo iirc

[coarse laurel]

With that’s rate of fire

[low fox]

can i post tanks exploded?

[acoustic harbor]

T90Ms weren't deployed iirc

only T90As

[low fox]

swore one was spotted

lemmie check the list

[acoustic harbor]

T90As I know off

[coarse laurel]

Another thing that gives us the edge is how well drilled we are compared to our Russian friends, all we do in armor land is train constantly to the point that it contributes to the massive divorce rates lol

[acoustic harbor]

T90Ms not sure, although a Javelin will fuck them up too

[coarse laurel]

Spending 1.5 months in the desert shooting gunneries at a time

Not fun

[acoustic harbor]

is there any tank that can withstand a jav?

[low fox]

So no Ms, but the improvements were jsut armor

[low fox]

any with APS

[acoustic harbor]

not only

[low fox]

but thats iffy

[coarse laurel]

The M1A2 SEPV2 with the trophy system can

[low fox]

It was armor and Relikt

[acoustic harbor]

better turret, being one with a secured compartment for extra ammo in the back

[coarse laurel]

Which is what we got

[acoustic harbor]

and I think they upgraded the turret frontal armor again

like they did from T72 to T90 turret

[low fox]

its still a moot point, the ammo still goes boom most likely

makign the turret go energia

[acoustic harbor]

Russia would be like: It's a feature, not a problem

[low fox]

we just need some 90ms sent

[acoustic harbor]

lmao

[coarse laurel]

General dynamics and the Jews upgraded our sepv2’s recently

[low fox]

As an aside

or just, I dunno, IR smoke lmao

i heard Armata's were being sent

but no source

they don't even have those

[acoustic harbor]

bullshit

[low fox]

i thought so too

but i just wanted to put it out that its on the vine

[acoustic harbor]

They wouldn't have enough, also no reason too, it's too hightech

for russian standards

[final panther]

Probably not

[low fox]

no shit prolly not, im just saying its on the vine

never got sent the sauce but its on the stupid fucking osint idiot grapevine

FUCKING OSINT

[acoustic harbor]

Source: trust me bro

[coarse laurel]

This is literally what the internet is in a nutshell

[low fox]

nah its I MADE IT THE FUCK UP

Or IT CAME TO ME IN A DREAM

btw that isnt a meme

[acoustic harbor]

especially on the ukraine situation, was active in the first 5 days, it was a shitshow of intel

[low fox]

I had a guy say "I had a premonition"

[coarse laurel]

It’s funny too because half the people who claim this aren’t even in the military or have any firsthand exposure

[low fox]

i am only active for the meme factor

[coarse laurel]

Just some nerds in a computer

[acoustic harbor]

...

[low fox]

TBF they have had some good intel

[coarse laurel]

Looking at twitter and live leak or whatever the fuck

[low fox]

but 90% is shit

[acoustic harbor]

Twitter isn't that reliable anymore

Telegram is lot of propaganda with some good reporters

Live UA Map is kinda good

also didn't live leak get taken down?

[coarse laurel]

When I’m in doubt I just ask my S2 section lol

[low fox]

yeah like 2020

its now itemfix but no gore

[coarse laurel]

They actually compile slides and intel weekly to present

[final panther]

Telegram is a new live leak lmao

[coarse laurel]

S2 underground in YouTube is also good

Dude is a 35 series MOS guy just making weekly updates based on what the US military knows

And he just shared it in public

I’m surprised he hasn’t gotten caught or taken down yet

[low fox]

they're not gonna do that

in fact, legally, they can't even compel him to stop

unless he violates the UCMJ in some way

but the reasons he's in anon mode are probably to shield him from the military being a bunch of shitters who would be mad a bunch of dudes on reddit and instagram can OSINT better than them

[echo jay]

S2U is very goode yes

[storm peak]

funny you should say that, nothing he says is classified as its all osint analysis

from what i can tell hes a former 35d as he knows a little too much about staff officer requirements than the generic analyst

[storm peak]

and to completely add to your take on it, no he isn't briefing us gov derived intelligence, he literally puts all his open source sources at the end of his analysis videos. hes a twitter researcher

[storm peak]

actually pushes glasses closer to eyes
leaking classified information is a legal matter as before you get access to any information you have to sign a NDA

[low fox]

nothing classed has been released, so he cannot be compelled to stop

by anything other than somebody's own personal vendetta with rank anyway

[olive jasper]

does anyone use Peli case to store their gear? would like to know what model you use

[coarse laurel]

Just guns and nods

I haven’t foun a pelican case that can take my helmet and plate carrier yet

[acoustic harbor]

Why a case for platecarrier and helmet

?

[urban cove]

Maybe for long term storage/travel? Not sure why you’d reaaaally need it unless you have a shit ton of gear

Then again I don’t need it for work like some of the guys in here

[acoustic harbor]

you can just put your pc in a backpack and strap your helmet on the backpack

it's not hard

[acoustic harbor]

Combat Pant posting

[left flax]

Ew multicam

[naive maple]

how do you like those uf pros?

i got the "urban tactical" pants and aside from the fly being idiotically small and high up i like them

[acoustic harbor]

HTs are GREAT

even in like -5-10° celsius they kept me warm without the windbreaker inserts, and they are actually meant for hot areas

and the ventilation systems are very nice

also got the 3D impact and hard kneepads and they protect soo well

[naive maple]

yeah i got the kneepads too, they seem okay but i wish they were smaller

for my chicken legs

i need to get another pair that has the double belt loops, just waiting for my size to get back in stock in the colors and models i want

[acoustic harbor]

I currently dunno what belt fits best with the pants tho

thought about the TT Belt that came out

[naive maple]

i want to get these in a few colors https://ufpro.com/pants/tactical-pants/p-40-all-terrain-gen-2-tactical-pants

just waiting for all the colors i want to be in stock at the same time

[acoustic harbor]

they are pretty good as far as I heard

they do have similar/same pouch setup as my Combat Pant

[naive maple]

actually

i think i might get the combat pants after all

since they have the small kneepad pocket on the front that allows for using only the smaller solid pad

the soft pads are so bulky

[acoustic harbor]

wouldn't though

The small ones are only plastic

[naive maple]

yes, i know

i have them

[acoustic harbor]

they can hurt a bit if you fall on them hard

[naive maple]

it won't be comfortable, but it will protect my kneecap from objects

[acoustic harbor]

for the seperate small kneepadss you need XTs or HTs

Xs and ULTs need to have the big ones with the smalls in them

[naive maple]

yes, i'm looking at the xt, which is 60 euros cheaper than the other ones for no discernable reason

[acoustic harbor]

XTs are basic tbh, HTs are for "hot climate" but can be usef allround, Xs are the Military version although they only have small changes snd ULTs are the overpriced minimalist

[naive maple]

i like basic

i dont need even two thirds of the pockets they put on these

i just need comfort (love the stretch material), durability, kneepad compatibility, and double belt loops

[acoustic harbor]

I don't use the calve pouches tbh

[naive maple]

those are the most ridiculous of them all

complete waste of material

[acoustic harbor]

wthey would work for smaller things but I either don't have things to put there or I'll maybe stuff the pant into boots, gotta see how they will look with my new Lowas

but I heard a lotta guys use them actually

[coarse laurel]

Because I like having lockable storage especially when I’m transporting it

This whole time I’ve been just shoving my Plate carrier in the back of my car and my 2 helmets: the ACH and my high cut on a duffel for work

[acoustic harbor]

Well for me a cese seens like extra unecessaey weight

[coarse laurel]

Lol I’m not carrying it, it’s just in the car

Also if I need to fly with it

[olive jasper]

Im thinking about the 1650, but i think its too small so my next option is 1630 or 1640. i just want one where i can throw in my entire kit and all the other necessities but ugh, wish i had a peli retailer close where i could look at one

[coarse laurel]

Yeah

1650 looks big tho

Or at least deep enough

[low fox]

The issue with thrwing gear in pelicans is that the ones big enough weigh a fucking ton

[visual rune]

you're better off with the yuge duffels

even the arcteryx meme

will cost you 10 billion dollars to check a pelican

[trim niche]

I'm a pretty small guy, but I recently got 2 4kg plates that I've put into my JPC. Hopefully my core and shoulders will grow with a shitton of pushups, burpees and pullups haha

[cinder stream]

BEARs, give up!

[acoustic harbor]

what plates weigh 4 kilos each

damn

[devout bone]

I should post my USEC kit to roast you, BEAR

[trim niche]

2 plates

both front and back

i need to make my trauma pads though, cause moving around is really fucking uncomfortable

[acoustic harbor]

still waht plates you got

[trim niche]

oh i got some cheap weight plates off of amazon for training

[acoustic harbor]

ceramic are like 3 kilos if not less

[trim niche]

steel

[acoustic harbor]

steel plates

[trim niche]

i was a bit confused sorry

and yeah steel plates

🗿

[acoustic harbor]

also JPCs don't have trauma paddibg velcro iirc

they are meant for standalone ceramics

[trim niche]

yeah

the jpc is all i have though

so I'll just modify to my liking

[trim niche]

but you can't post images

[acoustic harbor]

for a Bear Kit there would be better carriers that fit more to the aesthetic but if you like you JPC, get better plates and use it

[trim niche]

originally i was planning to get a TV-110 or a CPC clone from Ars Arma

but since the Ukrainian war started, its kinda tough to get those overseas

there's grey shop, but they recently had trouble with payments

[acoustic harbor]

they reactivated or will reactivate paypal iirc

need to get some wartech stuff

and some surplus they have

[trim niche]

yeah same

the jpc i saw was a good steal so i decided to get it for training

[devout bone]

I can

[trim niche]

how it feels to have money

not me

[devout bone]

not me lol

[trim niche]

wait a minute

is that a maid..

[devout bone]

yes

easily

its a dress

but that isnt me

[trim niche]

oh

[devout bone]

me

[acoustic harbor]

the fuck is that earpro my guy

[devout bone]

You joke but its real-steel

its a local company afaik

Xhunters

[acoustic harbor]

ahh

just looked kinda weird

[devout bone]

Im getting proper comm capables eventually

Like, ideally a Comtac XPI

but theyre fucking 1.1k

[acoustic harbor]

very based

Yeah comms setup is 1.1k iirc

[devout bone]

lots of moners

[acoustic harbor]

I'll get em alone cuz i don't have friends so only 400

like without the mic n shit

[devout bone]

normal ones cost 900

[trim niche]

also is grey shop as bad as the airsofters make it out to be

cause i think otherwise

it's pretty good

[trim niche]

I've seen used ones going for £200

even on ebay

[devout bone]

Its fairly alright
its been neutered kinda

Kommandostore is where its at ngl

[trim niche]

ig

here's the listing

it's just the base active hearing proc no mic

[devout bone]

link

[trim niche]

sure

[devout bone]

please

[trim niche]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peltor-ComTac-xpi-NEW-3M-/175198921928?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

[devout bone]

thanks

[trim niche]

np

this can go up though like from the amount of bids rn there's a lot of people after this

[devout bone]

thats a great price

I dont have the money for it now sadly

[trim niche]

neither

i wish i did

my ears are the one thing I'd hate to lose in a war

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3M-PELTOR-ComTac-XPI-/325107686244?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

there's also another listing

but it's spares

[acoustic harbor]

hmmmm

I would have the money...

[devout bone]

Im currently dropping money onto a Soviet Afghan kit

so the comtac XPIs will have to wait

I got a chad chicom

[acoustic harbor]

those aren't working

[trim niche]

yeah ik

[acoustic harbor]

if the mic works maybe

[trim niche]

it'll still be a steal though

mic is worth 100 - 200

if there is anyway to repair the battery compartments as well it'd be cool

[acoustic harbor]

I think I'm gonna bid on the working one

[devout bone]

good idea

[acoustic harbor]

that's a steal

[trim niche]

ye go ahead

[devout bone]

unironically

[trim niche]

gl on the bidding

[acoustic harbor]

thx

[devout bone]

I wish i had that money

XPIs are goated

[trim niche]

same

[devout bone]

also kosher for Ruskie kits

[trim niche]

I've tried them

they're very uncomfortable

[acoustic harbor]

still don't get it why people get comms, or nods as a dummy

or replica

kind waste of money tbh

[trim niche]

because it looks cool to them

[acoustic harbor]

Real NVGs are expensive (except PNV 10Ts for gen 2s) but they also give you a huge advantage

[trim niche]

yeah

[acoustic harbor]

and GPNVG dummies are the most cringe

not gonna lie

[trim niche]

gpnvgs too overrated

[acoustic harbor]

they are good

[trim niche]

chad dual pvs 14s 🗿

[acoustic harbor]

but i think there are some nvgs that already have 120 fov

instead of the 97 of the GPNVG 18

[trim niche]

I'd probably spend my money on a PVS-14 not only cause I'm poor, but for situational awarness

[acoustic harbor]

i would get a PVS 14, but it must have whit phosphor

so that's 5k ...

[trim niche]

agony

idm getting green phosphor or amber phosphor for that matter

[acoustic harbor]

for just shits n giggles I would get a russian PNV 10T, pretty good, gen 2, like 700 bucks

but are bioculars

so 2 entrances on exit

cyclops man

[trim niche]

mythology

you can't exactly aim with the PNV too unlike a certain game...

[acoustic harbor]

well

[trim niche]

you can sort of with the PVS, but very uncomfortable

[acoustic harbor]

if you have IR lasers

or you really awkwardly put it infront

[trim niche]

those are also expensive though

[acoustic harbor]

meh

[trim niche]

:pain

[acoustic harbor]

a Perst 4 is like 4-500

and it is dual IR and Visibile Laser

[trim niche]

well you can't get the perst right now though 😭

no export

[acoustic harbor]

I think some shop near me has one

[trim niche]

does it not have an illuminator?

[acoustic harbor]

nah that's the Perst 3

with the IR illuminator

and that one is like

1.2-1.3?

k

[trim niche]

yeah

i see now

i gtg work brb

[acoustic harbor]

k

[devout bone]

airsoft PEQ boxes actually work

and with enough zip-ties

it holds zero

kek

[compact dagger]

anyone else here has K19 plate carrier ? Just have a question about it

[acoustic harbor]

I think Izurumi has one

[compact dagger]

Just wanted to ask about locks, since mine are bitch to open

they used to be ok with opening, now it barely opens, especially top ones

and i don' t want to break another lock on it

especially the one that isn't as simple to replace as the side ones

[acoustic harbor]

damn

so teh tubes don't work?

[compact dagger]

nah its just hard to open, and after snapping lock on the left cummerbund i try to open them more carefully now

but the top ones are just a bitch to open, doesn't matter if you have plates/ammo in it, its still hard

when it was brand new i didn't have as much problems opening it

i guess it might be the mud/sand that's still stuck there since I was in germany

just the fact that you can't easily replace them is enough for me to not risk it

but i need them to work for when we will be running casualty drills

so the guy that's tending me can remove the carrier

because for now i have left side fixed with LatvianArmy™️ type of fix

i.e zipties

[acoustic harbor]

that's the reason why I don't trust tubes

if they can have defects from only mud/sand in them

I'd rather stay with velcro

[compact dagger]

yea

Idk it was first time advertising worked on me