irl-gear

[low fox]

my for fun kit

and then yeah, do some intense scav larping

its a german pasgt

it's based on the spanish marte, which is yeah a domestic pasgt

even with its age tho it's pretty comfortable all things considered

[left flax]

looks pretty cool

btw what wartech is this one? looks super nice

[low fox]

tv102

[left flax]

that was one of the ones ive been looking at

mmmmm looks clean asf

thinking of getting an atacs fg one

[low fox]

absolutely based

[left flax]

extremely based

[low fox]

i honestly do highly recommend it, it's a very comfortable plate carrier

[left flax]

need to get a patch with the gud boi legoshi on it. sadly no such patches exist

[left flax]

fairly cheap too apparently

[low fox]

rip

it is yeah

i got mine on sale for like $160

[left flax]

plus you get the russian satisfaction

[low fox]

that is true lol

[left flax]

either way pretty jelly

[low fox]

the best price i've ever seen for it is on greyshop

everywhere else is like $20-$60 more

[acoustic harbor]

maybe the Korsar 3M ?

[left flax]

can get them for 130 pounds here

[acoustic harbor]

based airframe user

[left flax]

think thats around 150-160 bucks

[acoustic harbor]

would just be better if it was an original Ballistic one

[low fox]

$175 so yeah you're paying around the same

[left flax]

yah

[acoustic harbor]

oh and about the 102

be quick

they are veing discontinued

afaik

[left flax]

and yeah not toobad. once comic con is done and i put my killa gear away, will get some nice wartech schtuff. cant wait

[left flax]

110 is discounted nicely too

oh discontinued

[acoustic harbor]

yep

[left flax]

not discounted im dumb asf

[low fox]

lmao

[acoustic harbor]

afaik they won't be making them

anymore

[low fox]

i prefer the 102 over the 110, though the 110 is a lot lighter and smaller

[left flax]

102 looks nicer from the front

imo

[low fox]

i do like how it looks yeah, that's what sold me on it lol

[acoustic harbor]

and It got them qr tubes

[left flax]

defo gonna pick one up when i get the chance

[low fox]

and they're honestly really high quality qr tubes

[acoustic harbor]

oh yeah ans does it take XL sapis?

or near XL Sapis

Fort Plates are pretty big boy

as I heard

[left flax]

anyway im sold on the 102 after taking a look

hopefully will get one in april after my long ass hike and comic con

[acoustic harbor]

comic con Killa

Interesting

You got everything kosher though?

[low fox]

i never really looked at which size plates it could take

i run hesco 3611C level 3+ plates in it

[left flax]

My dumbass English 2nf language doesn't know what kosher is

[acoustic harbor]

oh no prob

it's reenactor slang

[low fox]

lmao

[left flax]

Oooh

It's pretty close, only thing that will be different will be the rig as I couldn't get a Triton, got a jhuk

[acoustic harbor]

it originates from the jewish "kosher" food rules, but just means the kit is on point

and if it's sloppy it's called farb

[low fox]

everything always has to be kosher

[acoustic harbor]

farb standing for "fast and researchless buying" as i was told in my early days

[left flax]

Ahh lol

I'm close to kosher tho

Gonna get the tracksuit and helmet this paycheck

[low fox]

based based

[acoustic harbor]

sorry M3-C

there are also normal M3s like the UN version

[left flax]

that thing looks sexy

[acoustic harbor]

was used by Ukrainian army some time

i think it still is

[low fox]

it's ukraine, it probably still is lol

[left flax]

Ukraine using whatever they can find

Scav army

[acoustic harbor]

here the UN version

[acoustic harbor]

not anymore

[low fox]

they're a little better equipped than a scav army lol

[acoustic harbor]

it was more like early war seperatist

fun times

[left flax]

Oh ye forgot we helping em now with gear

[low fox]

since like 2015 they've gone through major revisions

[acoustic harbor]

goddamn like 2014-17 were the fun times with seperatist kit

they were using anything they could find

[low fox]

still as mix matched as ever tho, but there's more multicam out there now, meaning that must be modernizing lol

[acoustic harbor]

even fuckin, wish.com handguards and mods

[left flax]

Can't believe shits been going down in Ukraine for like 8 years

[acoustic harbor]

Meh I think only few here even know about Nagorno Karabakh

funfact, the russians deployed there as peacekeepers are my kit

[low fox]

based russian mps

[acoustic harbor]

gotta love 15th seperate mot. inf. birgade

getting the unit patches though was a pain

[low fox]

i would bet lol

[acoustic harbor]

i think I also have 2nd Guard Tamanskays too

but only field

I'm also getting some original snatched fromDonbass Patches but The post takes a lil too long

[low fox]

i need to get more into patch collecting, my coolest stuff is from obscure Russian recon and intelligence units from the early 2000s

[acoustic harbor]

ahhh 2nd Chechen war GRU

fun times

[low fox]

if u live in the US make sure people know they're not confederate flags lol

[acoustic harbor]

I'm gonna do some VDV/Inf. kit some time, Butan/Oreh M88 Winter, my beloved

[left flax]

i want one of them patch walls

[acoustic harbor]

most patches have Новороссия under the patch

[left flax]

like a giant wall thing for patches

[acoustic harbor]

If i have more patches same

[low fox]

ah ok lol

[acoustic harbor]

I need one of those ikea sharks to put into my Ratnik gear and just put it somewhere in my room lmao

[low fox]

lmao

[acoustic harbor]

for shits n giggles

[low fox]

i need to make a stand for my gear

it kinda just sits out everywhere

[left flax]

y e s

[left flax]

same dude, i have a pile of guns and shit in the corner of my room

[acoustic harbor]

bruh

[low fox]

if it works it works

i have like bad hangers i put my plate carriers on

and my helmets just sit on my dresser

i want a cool way to display them

[acoustic harbor]

what helmets u got?

[low fox]

i have that B826 UN helmet, a BAE ACH high cut, and i just sold my ops core to buy a team wendy exfil

and then like a couple replica russian stuff that i just enjoy larping in lol

6b47 and a zsh

[acoustic harbor]

actual Exfil?

[low fox]

yeah

legit ballistic exfil

[acoustic harbor]

jealous tbh

I want one but 1st nobody sells them here

2nd PRICE

[low fox]

yeah the price is a lot

[acoustic harbor]

1-2/M/MR?

or 1

[low fox]

1-2MR

[acoustic harbor]

ah I got a real one

M

MR i couldn't get sadly

[low fox]

i'm jealous lol

[acoustic harbor]

are like 440 around

[low fox]

that's dope

[acoustic harbor]

normal ones like 285

and I got a transition between Maska and ZSh 1-2, Maska but with ZSh 1-2 Visor and Visor screws

Maska 1-2KL

[low fox]

that's kinda cool honestly lol

i frick with that

[acoustic harbor]

rare as shit, haven't seen it on sale

also paid a small fortune tbh

[acoustic harbor]

Ratnik stays on during sex lmao

[low fox]

for a collector that's worth tho lol

it does and it has stayed on during sex

lol

[acoustic harbor]

3.6 Kilos, exactly 8lb, with visot are also pretty comfy to wear

the ZSh is a lil lighter

at least not Altyn/K6-3 and Maska weights being Altyn at like 5 and Maska at like 6 kilos

though I want a Fishbol maska in the future

[low fox]

i really want a real altyn

[acoustic harbor]

if you know where you can get them as cheap as 1.4k

[low fox]

yeah, i may

[acoustic harbor]

if not you have to shill out like 2-3k

[low fox]

my BAE ACH is worth like $1000 so i may sell it if i want to get one

[acoustic harbor]

also Rys Ts are a pain to get as well

I've seen one for sale in my whole 2 years or so of collecting currently

[low fox]

current goal is an exfil ballistic, but dream is at least just an altyn

[acoustic harbor]

You won't be wearing it though

[low fox]

I saw a Rys T for quite a large fortune once lol

[acoustic harbor]

official reports say that even doctors recommend use of max. 2h

[low fox]

yeah but is it dope... yeah

[acoustic harbor]

it is dope, but i personally wouldn't use it, too inconvinient

[low fox]

i'd just have an altyn for the sake of having one

display it somewhere cool

[acoustic harbor]

or you do beslan kit

Mhhhhh Sbruya Partisan.....

[low fox]

a beslan kit would be interesting, cusp of retro to modernizations

also just an excuse to spend money on awesome soviet camo lol

[acoustic harbor]

I don't like SS leto that much but for beslan kit it's awesome

but it is fairly expensive

[low fox]

for authentic stuff yeah, but would be totally worth imo

[acoustic harbor]

being that a D2 with softarmor is already 280 bucks at least, and Sbruya with buttpack can be 300

FSB Officers sold their Harnesses without buttpack and sold that seperatly to troll us collectors

it seems

[low fox]

they knew they were pissing us off lol

years down the line

i have to decide, after my exfil, i either am going to try to get some very modern german gear, a pvs31, or do some sorta authentic retro soviet kit

[acoustic harbor]

ohhh, kinda getting off topic, but how is your 6B47 replica

[acoustic harbor]

PVS 31s imho

[low fox]

it's honestly not bad at all, relatively light too

[acoustic harbor]

if it's the gearcraft one i'ma just say it heavier than the og

[low fox]

about 2kg and really solid

[acoustic harbor]

bruh

it really do be heavier than the og

[low fox]

i have the older gearcraft one before they changed whatever they did lol

yeah idk how they did it

i think like the current itteration is like 1.5kg

but yeah if you're looking for a replica it's really solid

same with most gearcraft stuff honestly

[acoustic harbor]

Here is mine :)

[low fox]

looking good lol

[acoustic harbor]

Got a full 2020 prod

with newgen cover

[low fox]

that's kinda dope honestly lol

[acoustic harbor]

also Baltex IR Remission meme

[low fox]

i honestly love the look of it

[acoustic harbor]

it's solid, though protection is lackin

[low fox]

that's kinda what i've heard

i guess that's the tradeoff for it being so light

[acoustic harbor]

2A at most i've seen

getting Gost 1+ barely

[low fox]

besides random russian specs, the oxide test on it is probably the best i've seen

and yeah it didn't fair the best

[acoustic harbor]

but for it having still an old non pad suspension system it is very comfy

but I've seen some new 6B47 ish helmet that armokom presented on Army 2021

maybe we gon get an upgrade

[low fox]

hopefully

[acoustic harbor]

the tor is great though

and not even that expensove

[low fox]

i'm a highcut fan lol

[acoustic harbor]

i see it's positives and negatives

but I like both high and lowcut

[low fox]

it depends on the sorta kit in running, but yeah highcuts do have their pros and cons

i used to have like 3 ACHs

[left flax]

Why do yall have all the nice stuff

Donate a 6B47 to a local like me

[low fox]

Cuz i have too much adult money to spend

[left flax]

I have a car I need to buy :((

Once that's done tho 🥵 gonna get some nice schtuff

[low fox]

smh just walk

gear is more important

[acoustic harbor]

get a used one for 175

[left flax]

What if I said I was saving for a tigr 👀 if only, I want one

175 isn't bad

[acoustic harbor]

I'm gonna buy a BTR 80 one day, if my dreams come true

gumme amphibic apc

[left flax]

If I win the lottery, I wanna make an airsoft field full of operational vehicles like that

With the correct safety procedures ofc

[acoustic harbor]

noice

[low fox]

owning a btr would honestly be awesome

best looking wheeled apc out there

[acoustic harbor]

facts

It is outdated but fuckin sexy

especially the 80A/82A

[left flax]

Outdated = sexy

Old is gold ngl

[acoustic harbor]

i agree and disagree

I still se the sexyness in gear nowadays

and the effictiveness on new gear is also way higher

[low fox]

old gear still works and is useable, but new gear continues to just do everything better

[left flax]

I'm talking about the vehicles n stuff lel

But some old gear nice

Buuut modern gear is just hot

[dull snow]

Brdm2 > btr

Same thing but more compact

And still amphi

[acoustic harbor]

BRDM doesn't have 30mm autocannon

and I think it just looks to snubnosed

[left flax]

Sawn off btr

[bronze burrow]

LAV..

[acoustic harbor]

LAV is an IFV

[bronze burrow]

it can be both a IFV or APC, the application of said vehicle is what defines that

depends on the country and doctrine

IFV and APC are roles, some vehicles are more specifically suited for one or the other but that doesnt mean they cannot fill the role, albeit potentially quite poorly

but this is just semantics

the LAV 6 is just really good looking.

[low fox]

LAV my beloved

[acoustic harbor]

It at least is secxier than the fucking steel box aka Pandur EVO our army got

[low fox]

YPR-408 and Ratels exist

[low fox]

The two are separate terms by definition. Its like a square is a rectangle but a rectangle isn't a square.
APC is a big taxi that isnt uber armored and has PDW
IFV is "If the thing is here, let it have a big fuckoff cannon to join the fight"

IFVs are APCs but APCs arent IFVs

[acoustic harbor]

Russian apcs mostly have 14.5mm mg or 30mm autocannons so they are big boy APC, not everyone has teenie weenie 50 cal

also some IFVs are on tracks

[low fox]

That is a moot point as other countries APCs had those

[bronze burrow]

it does not have thermals in 2022, only that upgrade is still planned, so it is very lacking compared to NATO vehicles of the same role

like Stryker

[acoustic harbor]

BTR 82A has

to my knowledge

also NV

and BTR 90, but god knows hoe much they use

[bronze burrow]

oh you are right although only for gunner. https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/3568367

[acoustic harbor]

onyl the gunner needs a thermal imo

the rest are enough with nvgs

[visual rune]

russia/nato forces aren't setup the same way

direct comparisons are tough in a lot of cases

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FK_KFmKXMAMfd_V?format=jpg&name=medium

BMMP is a good example

of something more modern, clean slate

[jaunty sage]

Hello chads who are definitely smarter than me I have a question I’m trying to get ahold of cheap nvgs partially for looks but I also want at least some function out of it and I’m willing to spend like $500 on it and I don’t know if that’s enough money or I don’t even know where I would find it can anyone give me any pointers?

[spring oar]

Good luck

I think Gen2+ starts at 700+ USD

I know you can get 10Ts for around that

[jaunty sage]

Damn well where can I go to at least look at any options is there like a website that’s used more often then others?

[spring oar]

I don't really know sites, sorry. I just know from what I've read in here and weapons

[jaunty sage]

Oh ok well thanks for the tip

[low fox]

Unless you're looking for relatively old and worn gen2 tubes, $500 is not really enough to get into nvgs

most economical choices are usually $700-$1000

even gen2's aren't going to come cheap

[jaunty sage]

That’s not very affordable for me so I guess I’ll just drop it for now

[low fox]

it might be a good idea to just save up for them later, cuz you don't want to go cheap and have something that won't work for you/break

[jaunty sage]

Damn well I appreciate the time

I really want something for night just mainly for airsoft and some other fun stuff but I know someone with a thermal and I’m super jealous

[low fox]

If you really want to look for cheaper nvgs, a good idea might be to check out reputable gear resellers on instagram, usually people will sell used tubes for cheaper prices than other places

[thorny ridge]

even then, ur looking at gen 2s at the most

[low fox]

i've seen a couple gen 3's

[thorny ridge]

for under 1k?

[low fox]

tho they're out of my price range

oh no not for under 1k lol

[thorny ridge]

exactly lol

[low fox]

i've seen 2 or 3 gen 2's under 1k with their full kits and relatively clean tubes

[thorny ridge]

i have connects that can provide p much any itar-restricted/nod-related item all over the world(excluding the middle east), hmu if you're interested & i'll direct you to the guy lol

izlids and mawl's included lol

[low fox]

i got my original pvs14 out of the middle east lol

[thorny ridge]

basado

buying out taliban stock

[low fox]

now that was kinda a deal, like $1100 for an almost brand new white phosphorous pvs14

[thorny ridge]

i kinda wanna try russian toobs

[low fox]

me too, but never gone about looking into actually purchasing them

[thorny ridge]

i've put all gear/nod related purchases on hold now

more important matters to spend money on lol

[low fox]

and considering modern russian nvgs seem to be just western derivatives or actual imports it's not that different from what is availible i feel, at least modern stuff

i should have more important things to spend my adult money on

[thorny ridge]

inb4 u get bridged dual 14s

[low fox]

i'm trying to get some pvs31A's

far off purchase i'm putting money aside for

[thorny ridge]

if you ever get the funds, i'll see what i can offer lol

[low fox]

thank you lol

currently building out a mounting system on a tw exfil ballistic

adult money lol

[thorny ridge]

my kit

[left flax]

taliban gaming

[low fox]

frankly based

[left flax]

beard really makes it stand out

got any tac-goats?

[low fox]

better gear than a lot of american shooters lol

[left flax]

yeah lmfao

[low fox]

why

becasue i can

[left flax]

ayo get me one too

[low fox]

i use pvs-31s and i would never buy them lol

at work*

[left flax]

you get NVGs at work?

[low fox]

yes?

[left flax]

what work? assuming mil right

[low fox]

yea

[left flax]

ah was gonna say damn, american jobs really handing out nvgs for nightshifts or sum

[low fox]

you can just get katanas or something

[thorny ridge]

mall cop

[low fox]

i dont really see the point in getting PVS-31s aside from the flex factor tbh

[left flax]

mall g u a r d i a n

[low fox]

it is kinda a flex factor

dumb reason to spend an extra 5 racks

but do you

it's either that or dtnvg-avs's

[thorny ridge]

Stackin Bread

da bnvd's wit da coti

[unreal temple]

guys, wanna play eft or not really

[low fox]

no

i hate that game

[thorny ridge]

fuck eft lol

[unreal temple]

XDDDD

[spring oar]

You're in the wrong channel

[unreal temple]

LMAO

[spring oar]

You want #pvp-lfg

[unreal temple]

not really

but since its eft server

and they be talking about airsoft and gear

[low fox]

ok but this is off topic

[unreal temple]

i see but still

server is eft

[low fox]

lmao

[left flax]

"irl-gear" channel doe

[unreal temple]

lol continue your debate

[thorny ridge]

yea s ouhhhhh mfin uhhh

eugene stoner

[left flax]

Heh, stoner

[low fox]

stoner my beloved

[left flax]

Dumb question but I'm guessing dats an American gun guy or something

[left flax]

Like mikhail kalashnikov

[left flax]

Why he looking at me like that

[thorny ridge]

so mfin uhhhh stoner worked at kac and armalite

the ar-15, ar-10 and some kac designs were his making

[left flax]

Ooooooh, das cool

[low fox]

kek designs my favorite

[spring oar]

AR guy

Also one of you mfs need to change

Y'all confusing me with your pfps

[jaunty sage]

One last question are there not like really shitty nvgs powered by ir light that work but light up on other nvgs that are cheap that I could use as a placeholder tool I get real ones or are those like really horrible?

[low fox]

u could go for some of the lower end monoculars that have no mounting systems

the only problem is you have issues with quality due to the price, as well as longevity of use

maybe like a bushnell equinox or something

i've never used any of them, but just looking around that could be an alternative

[jaunty sage]

How would I even use a no mount sight?

[low fox]

you could jank it onto a mount or just hold it up to your eye, works like binoculars

or like a sightmark ghost hunter, something like that could be a cheaper alternative

[jaunty sage]

So duct tape

[low fox]

essentially yes

these will be probably all late gen 1 or early gen 2 stuff so just know what you're getting

if u plan to use these like for milsim games, up against gen 2 and 3 nvgs you'll be highly outclassed, however still better than being in the total dark

[jaunty sage]

Now i just gotta figure out where to find these

[low fox]

shouldn't be too bad, they should both be on amazon, both the bushnell equinox and the sightmark stuff

however talk to some other people before u make your decision, and watch/read reviews

gotta make sure you know what you're getting

[jaunty sage]

Do those have mounts or are pretty much all cheap ones mountless

I’m gonna look into them before I buy them but I appreciate you taking the time for this

[low fox]

i wouldnt

why would you waste money instead of just aving money

[jaunty sage]

Bro I’m broke

[low fox]

ok

so save money

that's what i said lol

being broke doesnt mean you waste more money

[jaunty sage]

Fair enough

[low fox]

im not exactly rich either

[cursive gulch]

just collect money , spend it wisely

[low fox]

im just dont buy dumb shit because of instant gratification

i*

do it right the first time and you won't have to buy twice

exactly

good equipment holds value so if you need to sell it you can pretty easily

you could buy a cheaper nvg alternative, or yeah just save your money which is a much better idea

[jaunty sage]

Alright I’ll save for something better

Thanks guys

[thorny ridge]

don't cheap out is all i'll say

[low fox]

quality comes with price especially for nvgs

1400 dollars for a decent PVS 14

go from there

like with other gear you can go for cheaper options sometimes, but with nvgs you really pay for what you're getting

focus on other more pressing aspects of your gear or save for a better genuine night vision monocle, don't try and rush to buy something that'll not last/do what you want it to do

[left flax]

those the mono ones?

[thorny ridge]

most people won't even need nods tbh

get a modlite or cloud defensive

as a uh... sort of inbetween

[left flax]

i want one for my night hikes

[cursive gulch]

light > nods

[low fox]

for most people nvgs are just for fun

[left flax]

and for a cool display

flex value

[low fox]

they're a very cool talking point that's for sure lol

[thorny ridge]

they're an epic flex is what they are

[left flax]

a bigger flex is bringing a real AK to an airsoft field and claim its just a GHK

shell ejecting too foc

[thorny ridge]

i will post my quads if someone gives me a real nice peck on the cheek

[cursive gulch]

bruh

[left flax]

ill kiss you on the lips

post quad

[low fox]

smooches

[left flax]

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[low fox]

i think... you'd get in trouble for this

[left flax]

you reckon? i might be able to get away with it

[thorny ridge]

simply bring a FA blank to ur local field

[left flax]

M67 grenade

this shi realistic asf-

[low fox]

well actually, no

[acoustic harbor]

just use taginns lmao

[left flax]

Don't exist over here I don't think

Or just really hard to get

[bronze burrow]

pov you are suicidal

[low fox]

Or just embrace the fullmoon

[white ocean]

Friend built a mutant lol. Fires great love the thing.

[left flax]

Long boi too

[white ocean]

It’s long but it feels GREAT

Hehe

It has a little more kick (obviously cause the 7.62) but it’s really controllable without a grip we didn’t have one on for testing cause we didn’t know if it would work

[left flax]

Oh it's a real one??

OOOO JELLLLOUSSS

[white ocean]

Yes lol

[left flax]

Omggg

I would kill someone for that

[white ocean]

They were cheap

Only like 200$ on the store I’ll ask him for the store but Ik they sold out (I tried to get one lol)

[left flax]

Cheap, but can't buy cool shit like that in Scotland :'(

[white ocean]

Not with that attitude

[left flax]

Tbf if im sneaky enough...

[white ocean]

And smart about it. Are fire arm restrictions tight there? I’m unaware of any laws

(Also if you look at the mutant it’s charging handles an AK style)

[left flax]

Pretty damn tight
Gotta jump through some annoying hoops even for a small calibre like 22 or whatever

[left flax]

And yah, that's pretty fucking sick

You can buy a HK417 for some reason though

[acoustic harbor]

this is actually better in irl weapons

this is gear

[white ocean]

Wow that’s rough. When I turned 21 I walked into a store and 30 minutes later walked out with a m9...

WHAT

A SCAR

that’s my dream gun

[left flax]

Oh no that's not the scar

[white ocean]

Oh shoot

[left flax]

Uhhh fuck what's it look like

308 M4 thing idk

[acoustic harbor]

HK 417 A SCAR ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

MR308 is better than the 417 though

[white ocean]

My bad. New to the server. Didn’t read before I posted saw irl and thought it was good😬

[left flax]

Super jealous

[acoustic harbor]

doesn't have the tendency to fucking shoot the barrel out the front

[left flax]

I just want a cool gun to fire at metal targets

[acoustic harbor]

can't you own like 22lr?

[left flax]

I've met a ton of people in the Highlands who just have guns for some reason, so maybe it is easy

[left flax]

Gotta get a really annoying to get license

Plus there's a license for like every single calibre

[acoustic harbor]

We need to be 17 to buy boltys and breakaction, because pumpguns are illegal, and we need to be 21 and need a license for semis

not that fucked as britian but still shit

[left flax]

Why is every country so much cooler than the UK

Scotland seems slightly looser though than England

[acoustic harbor]

at least your not auschalian

can't even own bodyarmor lmao

[left flax]

Im German born though 💀

Oh rip lol

[white ocean]

...body armor is like sold everywhere here

[acoustic harbor]

airsofts are illegal too

[acoustic harbor]

I'm not australian

[left flax]

Fr? Fucc

[white ocean]

Glances at airsoft gun

[acoustic harbor]

And I only get my bodyarmor from a trusted source

aka. stealing it from the russian MoD

[white ocean]

Lmfao

AR500 is a very popular company here

[acoustic harbor]

ew

[white ocean]

My buddy has there plates in his rig I’m waiting for a price drop

[acoustic harbor]

AR500, especially their steel plates are garbage

[left flax]

As it should be

[acoustic harbor]

steel is pretty cringe

[white ocean]

But

But

But

We tested them

[acoustic harbor]

Spall

Heavy

[white ocean]

No I didn’t fuckinh shoot him

[acoustic harbor]

They stop a round but are unecceserally heavy and thex spall

the reason why old russian armor has neck and groin protector

or some commercial or military armors still have today

either spall or frag protection

[white ocean]

Russia didn’t have armor really till after the Georgian conflict

[acoustic harbor]

or pistol caliber rounds

[white ocean]

Then the rstnik program took over right

[acoustic harbor]

u are braindead

ZhZL 74 and 71 were early armors for KGB

6B3 and 5 were the first mass issued vests in afghanistan and chechnya

6B5-15 to be exact

[white ocean]

Maybe. They weren’t really focusing on armoring there troops that much until they fought the Georgian war and realized there enimies where

Maybe to the brain dead thing

[acoustic harbor]

bruh

6B5 was widely issued

same as 6B13 later before the conflic

[white ocean]

But wasn’t it not good or something

[acoustic harbor]

the plates were better than the krysat target

[white ocean]

Complaints about it or soemthing was the reason ratnik came around

[acoustic harbor]

at the same time the krysat was tested

[acoustic harbor]

Ratnik was a general modernization AGAIN

The Ratnik 1(Crimea and before) was issued in most of the army before ratnik came

[white ocean]

I’m getting most my info from a video by “Task&purpose”

[acoustic harbor]

being 6B7-1M and 6B23-1

[acoustic harbor]

ahahahaha

that guy is fuckin ret*rded

[white ocean]

Just on this topic tho

[acoustic harbor]

he knows nothing and sells it as something

[white ocean]

Yea my EOD buddy says that to me

[acoustic harbor]

and georgian conflict didn't bring any to no modernization really

the 2nd chechen war insurgencies did more of that

[white ocean]

I love learning about that stuff tbh lmao

Russia’s tactics are interesting to me

There’s a account on Instagram called “battles&beers” talks about soldiers experience in wars etc but one story was about a russian soldier during the Chechen war and he watched his buddy take 6-9 shots to the armor and it didn’t go through somehow. They think it was 9m or something

[acoustic harbor]

if he got issed a 6B5

probably with either boron carbide or 6.5mm titanium

or early 1.25mm titanium plates

could be

Gost level would be like Gost 4? 5?

It can stop some 5.45

[white ocean]

Depending on the Buckley I’m assuming and range but still. That’s crazy he deff cracked a rib or something

[acoustic harbor]

They had shitty to no trauma pads back then but or wore winter jackets

but like Gost 4 can withstand 3 hits from 5 meter

7N10

introduced in 1992

and being the 6B3 to 5 being like Dragonscale they can withstand a lot

[white ocean]

But they counted 6-9 hits it couldn’t have been 7n10

[acoustic harbor]

you don't hit the same spot all teh time

individual platrs

6B5 plate bag

[white ocean]

That’s right

It’s multiple plates

[bronze burrow]

that guy literally just uses wikipedia information and rumours/myths ur wasting your time watching him

[low fox]

his video on ratnik isn't the worst, it's a good gateway into learning about modern Russian gear

https://youtu.be/0x9bPucq8zw

probably the best gateway western youtube video on ratnik

[acoustic harbor]

oxide makes good videos

but for more knowledge, you gotta dig deep

or know people who know

and owning the stuff itself also helps a lot

[acoustic harbor]

fun fact, I know Bean Dzhon personally

and he really is

the Bean King

[low fox]

that's honestly really cool lol

[left flax]

Beaner? 👀

[acoustic harbor]

Ratnik is called Green Bean

because you look like a fucking bean

[left flax]

Yah ik lol

Little Green men

[acoustic harbor]

little green men is crimea

you dickhead

[left flax]

Same thing

[low fox]

green beans are tasty

they look cool too

[left flax]

yah

also just lost 2 thermals today smh, bouta cry

[low fox]

i’ve gone through a couple gear sets today with very little profit, today’s an off day lol

[left flax]

yeah, one of them days

makes a man want to cry

[acoustic harbor]

no and yes

[bronze burrow]

i might have to step in.

[left flax]

🙏

[normal nest]

now how does that work

[dull rapids]

airsoft?

[loud crest]

yes

Airsoft

[sour ether]

looking for an actual working night vision device

Budget around 300 to 600 AUD

Doesn't have to be too fancy, as long as it works and looks cool I'm happy

[spring oar]

Good luck

Gen 2s are like 600 USD

[sour ether]

I talked to some other guys and now I've finally found my life goal

make enough money by 25

Move to america

larp and cag with actual friends who wanna larp

[spring oar]

The grass is always greener friend, don't move here

It's a been a shit show and it's only gonna get worse

[thorny ridge]

don't have to move to the us to larp

simply get an occupation in which you'll larp every day brah

[acoustic harbor]

condor 🤢

[loud crest]

?

[acoustic harbor]

Condor PCs are garbage

It's allright for starting out

but replace it sometime

[loud crest]

It was 50 bucks at “The Army Store”

And its for airsoft

Other plate carrier were like 100-200 dollars

[acoustic harbor]

100-200 are pretty decent to pretty good carriers

Crye and the likes are a lil more expensive

[loud crest]

You have any recommendations

I really like the tv-110 on the tarkov store

?

[acoustic harbor]

tv 102, tv 110, mmac, crye cpc

[thorny ridge]

crye can be had for 150-200 (jpc's, 1.0 and 2.0s

[acoustic harbor]

spcs too iirc

though I still prefer AVS and CPC

but AVS isn't that cheap

and Gruppa 99 makes a Better AVS concept tbh

has integrated kevlar

[left flax]

Mfw gen 2s over here cost 2k minimum

[left flax]

Don't buy it from the tarkov store. You'll get butt fucked with customs fees

[acoustic harbor]

how

aren't decent gen 2s like 1k

[tall yew]

@loud crest using that pistol with a orange grip rather than orange barrel tip is a terrible idea. Hope you’re only using that in enclosed air soft arenas only

[spring oar]

You can get nods that're beaten to hell, I think you can get a surp PNV from 600-800 depending on condition

[loud crest]

Im using it an outdoor field thats technically enclosed?

I did it because a lot of people had only orange grips no orange tips on their pistol

[weak perch]

@ornate knotYO

[low fox]

tw exfil ballistic has been ordered

ranger green and with 2.0 rails

[acoustic harbor]

2.0 > 3.0 rails cmm

[low fox]

that’s what i’m saying, they look cooler too lol

[left flax]

Exfil
Yes

I have a fake one but YES

[acoustic harbor]

though I would've taken it in Desert or Black

With a MCam cover

[left flax]

Multicam :(

[low fox]

i could always paint it lol

maybe

i have a friend i may trade rails with

so the helmet is in ranger green and the rails are in black

black and ranger green is the look i’m going for lol

[ivory creek]

when you order a trooper CAP rescue plate carrier

[trim niche]

soo, i got a question. where is a good place to source night vision tubes? preferably green or amber phosphor since they're cheaper than white

[thorny ridge]

what's your budget

[slim flint]

Night Vision 101 or Night Vision Users 2.0 group on FB

[slim flint]

Good deals come up literally every day almost

There are NVGs at every budget

[zenith tusk]

Greer

[acoustic harbor]

fellow ratnik enjoyer

also nicr 6M2-1s

I hope the gear is genuine and not sourced from fucking gayshop

[zenith tusk]

Served in the ZVO, 6th combined arms army, Argus 2-2, gear is BTK, RUS and Armakom

[acoustic harbor]

Impressive

but iirc aren't the kneepads made by NPP Klass/KlassKom

[zenith tusk]

Was never issued them, so couldn't say

You're talking about the 6B51's right ?

[acoustic harbor]

yep

[slim flint]

How's the invasion going?

[acoustic harbor]

also were you issued 6B38 or the 6Sh118, it seems to my research they are used equally

[slim flint]

You should leave your Snapchat location on so we can come hang

[zenith tusk]

Yeah, was never issued those

[low fox]

Hes in the reserves atm im assuming

[zenith tusk]

Also nah, 6B50’s and Sh117’s

Also I haven’t been active since 6 years ago so uh

[low fox]

*draftable reserves

[zenith tusk]

Time machine ?

[low fox]

Whatever the Fuck its called

[acoustic harbor]

not the goggles, 6B38, or was it 39 is a 118 Backpack with sleep compartment

[zenith tusk]

Oh the fuckin kit bags

118’s are alright

[acoustic harbor]

the big ones yeah

[zenith tusk]

Yeah they’re hefty and comfy

I’ll take a pic of mine after this raid

[acoustic harbor]

I still need to get one for me

[low fox]

See i need some shmuck to ship me a radio set that isnt ebay scalping price

[acoustic harbor]

carrying whole kit in different bags is a pain

[low fox]

I wanna Fuck around with the innards

[zenith tusk]

Yaga

@acoustic harbor

[acoustic harbor]

noice

oh and @zenith tusk how is the Azart system?

[zenith tusk]

Krungo

In all honesty tho it’s kinda fucky but I haven’t worked with it a whole lot, most of out SSrg’s and LT’s worked with that system

[acoustic harbor]

I was just guessing because you got the radio version of the 6M2

To my information it is still unjammable by Western technology

[left flax]

God I want one of these

Can fit a whole mountain lion in that

[acoustic harbor]

120 bucks iirc

but most of the time they are around 200

[left flax]

I know someone selling one for 80 quid, or well, he was selling one

Think it's sold now sadly

[bronze burrow]

im lookin for some baggy ish pants in EMR, like VKBO pants not the full set just pants but i can only find in XXL

like these

@acoustic harbor mayb u can help me out?

[zenith tusk]

LT’s usually took command of the Azart’s, I was a Junior Sergeant so we usually had R-168’s, depending on roles we had them as 1-5 units

Still the standard 7 prong connections hence the 6M2’s

[acoustic harbor]

ah interesting

[acoustic harbor]

VKBO 8th Layer

or 5rh

finding your size isn't that hard and if it really comes down to it get the BTK ones from greyshop

[acoustic harbor]

but do you use the azart ptt with the 168s or does it have its own ptt

[zenith tusk]

Russian sizing to US is strange in of its own so be aware

Also it went from 6M2 to Azart switch then connecting to our 168’s

[acoustic harbor]

ah so you still use the Push to talk like azart?

I heard those shitters are expensive af, I know a guy who has one and paid like 300 bucks for it

[zenith tusk]

Azarts aren’t really PTT’s, they’re more like switches

[acoustic harbor]

ah okay

[zenith tusk]

And yeah I’ve known a few people who’ve paid up to $600USD for them

Kinda krungo lol

[acoustic harbor]

I would want so much stuff from Ratnik still, but the current plan of getting a gladiator is eating up me pockets

[zenith tusk]

Engineering ?

[acoustic harbor]

pardon?

engineering what?

[zenith tusk]

As in like, the gladiator komplekt for the engineer assault unit or ?

[acoustic harbor]

Gladiator Vests are used by FSB and SSO

[zenith tusk]

Ahhhh gotcha

[acoustic harbor]

you probably mean the OVR 3Sh assault and OVR 2-01 and 2-02 mine clearing suits

want onw of those too some time, but they are rare and probably expensive af

[zenith tusk]

Yeah no I thought you meant those because we called them Gladiators because of how it was layered lol

[acoustic harbor]

bruh

well it uses same plates, and collar as Gladiator V and S combined with Kaspiy Frag suit and some extra parts

to my information

oh also, are you currently issued 5A or 6A Granits? and how common are 6As to be issued currently?

I heard GRU prefers the 6As

[zenith tusk]

Oh no, I haven’t been in for a while now but we were only at the time issued 1 5A plate in the front

[acoustic harbor]

bruh, back to only front plates?

6B23-1 vibe haha

[zenith tusk]

6B23-1’s sucked ass until we were issued 45’s

[acoustic harbor]

I can imagine

[zenith tusk]

Literally potato sacks taped to your chest

[acoustic harbor]

Will get one some time for Crimea kit

[zenith tusk]

I feel extremely sad for those chuvaks during that time wearing such a dogshit armor system

[acoustic harbor]

better than a 6B5-15 i guess

Allthough I love that one

Boron carbide plates

[zenith tusk]

Sure, but at the same time it being “modern” at that point and time of a large scale invasion ? Holy shit

[acoustic harbor]

I think teh generalisation for the army was 1st problem, then cam comfort and protection

also you got any information of the 6B13 used by Morpeh? I know it is still seen nowadays in very small quantitys

[zenith tusk]

Yeah I mean I’ve worn a 23-1 before a 45 and those two systems are literally day n night

Also info in what sense ?

[acoustic harbor]

Usage, comfort,y'know the stuff you can't find without first hand expirience

(I'm doing research on this stuff currently)

[acoustic harbor]

imho the 45 is a really great armor bieng very comfortable, not that heavy and has a lot of protectopn, at least better than the ones I have in my country :(

if they even exist

mfw army still stuck in the 70s

or 80s

[zenith tusk]

I’ve worn a 13 once, only because a guy in a rear echelon unit allowed me to when I asked because I was curious, overall ? Not entirely shitty, but it is a bit awkward from not the plate layout, but how the aramid and kevlar mix is weaved together, especially in the shoulder section because how it doesn’t sit on top of but in front of your shoulders

[acoustic harbor]

interesting

:)

45 and 47 are 2020 prod. 117 is 2018

and yeah i got 6B50s but not on the helmet rn

[zenith tusk]

Looks pretty good duder

Especially considering the multiple material manufacturers lol

[acoustic harbor]

am still getting some pouches my 117 batch (08.18) was faulty, missing Azart Pouch, Flask, Gasmask and Vogs

will maybe sell my 2020 45 for a 2019

I still want Baltex Fabric

IR Remission meme

[zenith tusk]

IR WHomST

But uh yeah lol

[acoustic harbor]

15th Seperate my beloved

[zenith tusk]

All my equip shit was issued modern at the time but I was still rocking a 2015 VKBO uni instead of the 17’+ PO

[acoustic harbor]

so still small velcro rectangle above patch one?

[zenith tusk]

Yeah, even wearing the O300 patches lmao

[acoustic harbor]

O300?

the really old ones?

or wdym?

[zenith tusk]

No the new ones with the combined flag and branch

You can see the remnants of the old patch up above the new one, when it was seps

[acoustic harbor]

ahhh interesrting

and are those splav gloves

[zenith tusk]

Yeah, the 6Sh122 gloves were never comfortable to me so I used Splavs

[acoustic harbor]

I have the new 122 ones

love them

[zenith tusk]

If they made new ones that feel good ? All for it, but when they first introduced them ? I’d rather die lmao

[acoustic harbor]

The leather ones?

[zenith tusk]

Yepp

The very same

[acoustic harbor]

I got these:

Oh and If you're interested that would be my full kit

[left flax]

Seeing these makes me jealous

Can't wait to have my SOBR kit ready so I won't feel left out lmao

[acoustic harbor]

as long as it isn't Terek or Halzan you're good

[left flax]

Tbh idk the difference much

I'm getting help from people who know more than me

[acoustic harbor]

Terek and Halzan are the most seen kits and are oftem ade really shitty

I think desert fox made a really farby and shitty terek kit

[left flax]

Aah

Well the stuff I'm going with will mostly be atacs / olive, don't know if that'll mean anything lol

Still grabbing a mono

It might be the Moscow unit I'll be going with

[acoustic harbor]

Moscow uses Black Moss

Granit would also be a nice take

have see a granit pic with a guy that wore a platecarrier as a rig over a korund VMK oldgen

here

5th layer and 8th layer jacket i recommend

and the winter 2nd layer underwear is GREAT

keeps incredibly warm

[left flax]

I wouldn't even look at him, spooky asf

Looks cool though

Chad

[acoustic harbor]

he is even more chad because he's using a 9A 91

[jaunty sage]

Bruh I have a super budget kit and this stuff is making me feel insignificant

[worthy heart]

All you need is Ikea

[jaunty sage]

Bruh

I just need a rig that actually works with banana mags

I have a really shitty one

That gun probably cost more than my entire net worth

[worthy heart]

Gun runs now for 2k

[jaunty sage]

Still checks out

[worthy heart]

With the furniture somewhere over 1k

[jaunty sage]

I have like $400 in bank

[worthy heart]

So let's say 3k

I got it for 1200

[worthy heart]

Oof

[low fox]

based ikea enjoyer

[jaunty sage]

Man I just want a functional rig and some simple attachments

[low fox]

drip check

[jaunty sage]

Bruh the only helmet I have is a killa helmet

Because funny

[worthy heart]

All I need is a hat

[jaunty sage]

I also have something similar to the shattered mask

For drip

[worthy heart]

Boo helmets

[jaunty sage]

Shattered mask is superior

[worthy heart]

Hat

[jaunty sage]

Honestly I’m not super into the gear world I don’t even know where to looks for a half decent rig

[worthy heart]

I don't care enough about gear

I got plates I got a rig

[jaunty sage]

I just want something that can hold a drum mag and a few bananas

[worthy heart]

I should probably get some pouches

[jaunty sage]

Also I need something that can fit p90 mags

[worthy heart]

But I don't really care enough

[worthy heart]

Good luck

[jaunty sage]

Yeah

I got the gun and then realized just how long they were

Not happy about that

So I’m probably just gonna use my SR-47 as my main

[acoustic harbor]

what rig m8

like a TT MK2 holding a front plate?

[worthy heart]

I got a few rigs besides that and some level 4 rmas

[acoustic harbor]

ye but where you gonna put your plate if it isn't in a platecarrier/rig

[worthy heart]

I got a cheap carrier which will be swapped for probably a crye or some sort of slick carrier

[acoustic harbor]

Slick I would use for concealed carry, for open use I would recommend something more hefty like a CPC, MMAC, AVS maybe you also like some Kevlar backed stuff then go for that

[worthy heart]

Rug wise I bought a partizan for fun but planning to get a Haley strategic

[acoustic harbor]

real steel parti

or replicus

[worthy heart]

Replica

[acoustic harbor]

ahhh

but can't blame you

getting a real full set can be a pain and run you around 300 bucks

hunting for buttpack is always shit

[worthy heart]

Not a bad price my friend uses his for hikes and I use mine mostly for pull ups at the moment

Put a little extra weight on me while I do pull ups

[acoustic harbor]

I would do that with my bodyarmor if i could do a pullup 😢 🔫 (I'm working on it)

my arm strength is lacking big time

[modest flame]

Damn I'm a girl and can do pull ups

[acoustic harbor]

ye comes from me sitting infront of pc 24/7 for the last 4 years

[modest flame]

That's all I do

Even at work

I sit at a PC as a job

[acoustic harbor]

also I think you weigh very much less as me

[modest flame]

Probably

[acoustic harbor]

I weigh around 185 lbs, if that is correct

I don't use lbs that much

[modest flame]

Buy me nods so my helmet isn't bare @worthy heart

[acoustic harbor]

bruh

[worthy heart]

I can do both

I do about 30

Sets of 10 different hand positions

[acoustic harbor]

ye 10 at once would be pretty impressive

30*

[worthy heart]

I have the money but I don't want too

[modest flame]

🙃

Need arc rail earpro too

[acoustic harbor]

Headband > ARC adapters

more versatile

[modest flame]

Currently wearing them under the helm

[worthy heart]

Get some comtacs

[modest flame]

I wanna

[worthy heart]

Easy to install

[modest flame]

Contact 5s

[worthy heart]

Some people buy sordans but fucking dont

[acoustic harbor]

I should get some ComTac XPIs (5) some time too

[worthy heart]

Sordans are a pain in the ass

[acoustic harbor]

doesn't Sordin also have less reduction?

in sound

also they are less modifiable then tha comtacs

[worthy heart]

If you want to mount sordans on a helmet you have to open the entire frame and install the mounting piece yourself without ripping wires out

They fucking suck

And they are not the best on sound

They are ok

[acoustic harbor]

ah gotcha, so the XPIs it is

oh and Seb, you ever considered a battlebelt for yourself if you don't already have one?

[worthy heart]

Kinda do

Safe life duty belt

[acoustic harbor]

I would recommend too, it's a good way to mount a holster without having something dangle on your leg and again MORE SPACE

[left flax]

Where lemgoshmi plushie

[worthy heart]

Mostly keep my glock on it

But I need to order some pouches for it

Bought it off a friend for cheap

[acoustic harbor]

maybe a medical pouch like this one could also help, I think one like that should be on every belt

easy acces

a good chunk of storage

[left flax]

I'm still tryna figure out what to slap on my monolith

[worthy heart]

I already have a plan of what I'm putting on it

But currently the money right is being put into guns

[left flax]

I need to get a bog standard ak74m

Dunno if I wanna save for an lct again or just grab a cyma

[acoustic harbor]

cyma cm 040c

budget

[left flax]

If I got a cyma I wouldn't be scared of breaking it painting it

[acoustic harbor]

good

[left flax]

Yeah I was looking at that

160 pounds

[acoustic harbor]

I got the same

[left flax]

Out of stock 24/7 tho

[acoustic harbor]

on taiwangun it's still available

iirc

[left flax]

I don't have muh license so gonna need my mate to buy it for me

[acoustic harbor]

if you need any tips you can ask me, if you consider that an option

[acoustic harbor]

license?

what

[left flax]

UKARA

It's stupid

Can't buy a RIF without a licence

And I'm still 17 but in 6 months I can get it

It's stupid though because I can legally own one, just not buy it

[sudden depot]

How tall are you

[low fox]

operator cap and my comtacs is a cozy fit

[worthy heart]

Baseball hat and earpro I'm good

[left flax]

the cap has to be backwards tho

or you arent a real op

[low fox]

that's too operator

plus i like the sun out of my eyes lol

[worthy heart]

I just wear whatever hat I want

I have one that says wicked pissah

And it looks like a trump hat

[low fox]

that's pretty cool ngl

dripped out for larp

[acoustic harbor]

ca. 175cm

yes I am out of shape

but I'm currently working out n shit

[sudden depot]

Fair enough