irl-gear

[low fox]

not the minimums, but the recommended

work out until you meet the recommended standards

go to a recruiter

enlist and get an option 40 or volunteer after basic training

go to RASP

pass RASP

profit as a ranger who will get to do shit and actually train in a useful way

[formal hamlet]

Good job on the promotion

[low fox]

dude its been years

albeit i misbehaved and got knocked down to e5 for a while

[eternal shuttle]

Yeah

Those are the avs ones

I find them great

Their nice an snug

[low fox]

god i hate the AVS

[eternal shuttle]

U don’t have to have an avs

To use it

I have avs pouches on my jpc

[low fox]

uhhh

sure

[eternal shuttle]

What

LOL

[low fox]

AVS pouches are AVS pouches

it's a system that has its own pouches

[eternal shuttle]

if u have a JPC 2.0

u need an avs

[low fox]

but the AVS is still a vest

[eternal shuttle]

slap

[low fox]

i mean i really dont cause the AVS is ass

ive had 3 of them

[hallow compass]

Is spartan body armor any good quality?

[low fox]

no

[hallow compass]

What's a good quality plate carrier and plate kit? Or should I order separately

[eternal shuttle]

for real steal

or for airsoft

[hallow compass]

Real steel

[eternal shuttle]

Ferro or crye

[low fox]

ferro is shit

[eternal shuttle]

Your telling me you have used a ferro slick for real steal shooting

an ur saying

it's shit

[low fox]

i'm telling you that ferro is shit

[hallow compass]

I'm looking for something for self protection, gonna have to live in a super bad neighborhood for awhile

[low fox]

get soft armor then

most gang bangers aren't using rifles

[hallow compass]

Paca💀

[low fox]

ferro concepts gear is ok for civilian use

but most of their products use poor quality laminate that wears down faster than it should after hard use

its not suitable for serious shit

and sure, some guys run it professionally, doesn't change it being shit

[hallow compass]

What's good for say if I was an operator?

Comfortable, good protection, and definitely breathable

[low fox]

how would i know? those guys use whatever they want

[devout bone]

It's up to your own choice lol

There isn't a meta for carriers

[low fox]

id say there's a meta

but it's not set in stone

[devout bone]

Meta for plates but I'd argue that its impossible to have a meta for a rig

[hallow compass]

Quick release I'd prefer, but I can't find many

[devout bone]

FirstSpear ig

[low fox]

there are carriers that are both proven and suitable for the majority of people

the JPC 2.0 is one of them

you can basically do anything you'd ever need to do with it

[devout bone]

Speaking of JPCs
How much are you selling your spare for?

[low fox]

hm? it's just a 1.0 i got from a buddy who never relisted it somewhere

i dunno, i'd have to take a look at it

[devout bone]

Is it multicam?

[low fox]

no

thats why im selling it

[devout bone]

Damn

[low fox]

i know where it is, i just haven't figured out what i'm selling it for

[devout bone]

Fair

[eternal shuttle]

what color

[devout bone]

Probs coyote

[low fox]

^

[eternal shuttle]

I need a ranger green one

[devout bone]

Shit brown

[low fox]

the only ranger green piece of gear i've ever used in my life is my frag pouch

[devout bone]

That's sad

You need more RG in your life

Solid colour

[eternal shuttle]

I am working on a ranger green kit rn

I have all my eagle pouches

I just need a pc

[low fox]

id consider an LV MBAV in RG if i was a civilian

but im not

and ill be damned if i rebuy any gear

[devout bone]

I just buy repro mag pouches
They're really no different from real steel

Atleast the ones I use

[low fox]

probably, but im not gonna be the one who finds out

plus they probably glow in the dark since i doubt repros are IR treated

under nods*

[devout bone]

Depends on the repro company but yeah

If buy BFG 10 speeds but fuck me, $100 for a single pouch makes me cry

Id*

Man I want a VANT

Beautiful assault shield my beloved

[storm peak]

still a useless job at the end of the day

damn wait so you have less than 3 yrs tis?

[low fox]

no, but i did when i pinned E6 the first time lmao

[storm peak]

it be's like that, i never want to go back to fayetteville

[low fox]

that's why SOCOM is dumping its resources into evolving our IO and PSYOP capabilities :^)

[hallow compass]

So my recruiter mentioned Alaska..

Good idea?

He said I can volunteer to go there for my duty station

Or something

[low fox]

almost like you need influence in order to not be fighting against the entire civilian population during a war

why the fuck

would oyu ever

volunteer to go to alaska

[hallow compass]

Well it looks nice but it's in the middle of bum fkd egypt

That's my only reason not to

I rly rly rly wanna be in japan

Like I'll do anything there as long as I can vacay there off duty

[low fox]

did you just say alaska is in the middle of egypt

how old are you again?

[storm peak]

aka you just blast afn on the radio and hand out flyers

[devout bone]

If I'm gonna enlist
I'm gonna do it once I finish Uni
Get some life experience and guaranteed medical roles

[low fox]

i haven't handed out a single flyer or done radio station stuff my entire careers

career*

[storm peak]

thats all what they did in iraq and in nwa

[devout bone]

Do nothing except camp in the bush since we have no overseas bases :)))))

[low fox]

i've never been to iraq lol

i've been to peru

[storm peak]

4pog?

[low fox]

i've been to the dominican republic

and i've been to afghanistan and the phillipines

was once

not anymore

in 8th now

[devout bone]

Yo
What's worse
A boot or a pog

[storm peak]

been a few yrs since ive been at bragg so gotta excuse the lack of memory

[low fox]

they reorganized the groups

[storm peak]

mi guy btw

[low fox]

so however it was last time you were there is probably different

[storm peak]

so my hatred is for your useless mos not you

[low fox]

useful when it's applied properly

[devout bone]

Does psyops have a use outside of the military?
Like what job would that allow you to get

[storm peak]

radio host

[low fox]

intelligence community stuff

[devout bone]

I mean
That's a good job

[low fox]

or state dept

i've seen people do both

[devout bone]

Anyone have experience with the Tarkov merch caps?

They're made with the Russian "Janus" fabric which I have no idea if it's good or not

[low fox]

we've sent a couple guys down to the farm actually

still do

[low fox]

Ive got a few. They are nice

[devout bone]

Awesome

Waiting for mine to arrive

[low fox]

Its like nylon

They are a wee bit tall if that makes sense

[devout bone]

hot

[dusk pulsar]

got smthn similar

[devout bone]

I have a carrier that has a USEC patch
im waiting for my hat and arm patch

[ashen cosmos]

BEAR PATCH > USEC

[devout bone]

cope commie

[formal hamlet]

Hot

[dusk pulsar]

im waiting until i get my own combat equipment because i dont know shit about what to get aka what is allowed in my unit

[daring pike]

This good for tarkov ?

[acoustic harbor]

yes

[daring pike]

Better be didn’t pay 1.9k euros for nothing

[night rock]

your CPU matters more

[formal hamlet]

Is that a tq on your stock

[spring oar]

Wat

[ancient minnow]

Blame crypto for everything

[spring oar]

Yes but patience can get you cards close to MSRP

[daring pike]

Yes but I got enough money and not enough patience

And as cpu I got a ryzen 7 5800x

[small quarry]

anybody trading Christmas bulbs? Looking for some whites.

[runic ember]

christmas bulbs?

[stuck steppe]

I've heard of people saying tarkov is CPU bound and others say it's GPU bound

so what really helps get them frames

[outer quail]

Without knowing definitively, poorly optimized games are usually bottlenecked by the CPU.
I have a pretty old GPU, but a decent CPU and i run the game fine

[tall aspen]

ornaments

[dreamy ether]

IS THERE A WAY TO CHECK TARKOV PRICES?

for keys on the Flea?

[stiff lion]

No sell it to me

[stiff lion]

Yeah google tarkov market

[hallow compass]

I still can't find that fkn armor

[mental burrow]

Anyone know good vest + chest rigs for air soft or cosplaying

[hallow compass]

Depends

On what ur cosplaying or doing in airsoft

[devout bone]

what are you cosplaying and what do you need for airsoft

[low fox]

What fucking country fuckwit

[daring pike]

but can it run tarkov? (3080ti, 48gb ram, Ryzen 7 5800X)

[low fox]

no

[daring pike]

fuc

[low fox]

hesco four plates bro

like large plates aswell

[low fox]

cope

never in my life have I seen such cringe

the irony is that even the Russians buy crye and ops core when they can

and make reproductions of it for their own guys when they can't

also I guarantee you will never be in a situation that requires you to wear armor under a jacket in your life

which is completely different from low visibility anyway so im not sure where that came from cuz covert and low vis are different

and I wouldn't use shit Russian gear for the task regardless

[low fox]

mfw supposed private sector goons are buying shit tier eastern bloc gear instead of high end manufacturers like crye who make superior equipment for the task

sounds like a big larp to me

Russian gear is shit

it's a simple fact

i could not imagine coping this hard

next he'll start saying that Russian ballistic materials are superior cuz he doesn't want to give ops core the money

hesco has the worst track record of any armor manufacturer in the US right now

with more FIT failures and production recalls than just about anyone in the industry

pretty impressive actually

🤷‍♂️

for someone who says they're an armed professional it'd do you well to understand your equipment as much as you're able

but we only run LTC and Ceradyne plates so it's not like that's my problem

it's pretty surprising the Russians were able to cook up a plate that's actually capable of saving someone's life that isn't 10 pounds

as far as armor goes it uses pretty outdated technology, but it's better than just about anything they've ever made in the past as a mass issue armor system

that being said, it's still pretty heavy as far as armor goes, but it'll do the job against most common small arms

for now anyway

you need to find a new fucking employer if you're from a NATO country and you're running granit

there's no contracting companies that I know of that would force someone to use personally purchased armor to begin with, talkless of eastern bloc shit when it's easy enough to procure better stuff

why would you have to bring your own equipment anyway, ITAR is a non issue for entities with authorization from the state department

When I was in Afghanistan this summer, contractors over there literally brought crates full of revision caimans that they gave to basically everyone

that shit was not coming back

every picture from kabul with some dude wearing a revision helmet came from them

but it wasn't a problem because the state department had already blessed off on it

so to have to worry about ITAR

methinks you're doing something you shouldn't be

not gonna catch me doing some sketchy fucking contract for what's gauranteed to not be worth it

you wouldn't be the first person I've met who's unironically done it

i know multiple people who joined Syrian volunteer militias

🤷‍♂️

sucks to be them

right now? LTC 28595s

ceramic is all I've ever used aside from one time where we had velocity ULVs with the titanium plates

• Ceradyne MSAPs

but I need to DX mine cause there's new ones and I never got around to it

issued, impossible to buy these plates at all

unless you're the government anyway

[fiery wedge]

you really like chatting dont you

[devout bone]

Nah
Some idiot deleted there messages because they were being fucking stupid

People should just follow the law ffs

[devout bone]

Cute rig >///<

[acoustic harbor]

No? OpsCores are not used that often morw homegrown shit like LShZ 1+, TOR, etc. Crye is not bough most are copys or some gucci officers afford UF Pro Striker X or XT sets, and I wouldn't hate on russian shit, the current infantry armor the 6B45 has no business being this good as a standard issue, and ye have you seen the New Fort Plates? Those bitches can stop M993, Gladiators are gucci too, full thorax, Shoulder, Groin and Neck protection that only weighs 9-10 Kilos with Plates, Russian Gear isn't shit if you know what too pick

But it is true Russia is behind the US standard, good look at the Ballistic Performance of the 6B47 proves thart, would take an ACH over that any day

(says this but owns one)

[acoustic harbor]

I own the smaller brother of it

lmao

The VM was a little too expensive for me

the Kevlar/Steel Sandwich still weighs a lot the big one weighs around 22-24 iirc

[devout bone]

I love the VANT

Beautiful shield

[acoustic harbor]

Fakel S would be more effective cuz weight but other than that a VM will land in my collection one day

[devout bone]

Russian SOF gear is the same equiv as western units
Russian infantry is however behind US/NATO gear

[acoustic harbor]

I do russian infantry, it may be behind but it COMF

[devout bone]

If I ever make a VANT VM replica for cosplay or paintball or whatever
I'm gonna give it a grey dazzle camo paint job

[acoustic harbor]

and I'm currently have a guy get me a Glad with da Gucci Plates

[acoustic harbor]

if you have enough money get a real one 🙂

[devout bone]

Ha

Illegal

[acoustic harbor]

Wait what

[devout bone]

Ballistic = illegal

[acoustic harbor]

Where do you live again

[devout bone]

Just a heavy wood replica is fine

[acoustic harbor]

oh yeah

cucked gun laws too

[devout bone]

Kinda But nah

Anyway

Vant hot

[acoustic harbor]

yes

fun fact

seller I know titles when he ships a Vant VM as fucking "door"

so yeah, the bulletproof door meme was born

[devout bone]

Door

[acoustic harbor]

Door

[mental burrow]

Cospl, but I may get into airsoft

[devout bone]

I mean like
What are you trying to cosplay

Tarkov or ?

[mental burrow]

Overlord

[devout bone]

SCP Overlord?
Crye JPC in Black or Coyote Brown

Replica is totally fine

Emerson Gear or TMC makes good replicas

Flyye and Viper If you want something that is more sturdy

[mental burrow]

Yea

[devout bone]

You can also use the LBT-4020 in Multicam Black

Or Crye AVS in Multicam/black

[acoustic harbor]

nooo JPC = cringe

[mental burrow]

Tarkov maybe too. I just know what’s a good product line. Definitely multicam

[acoustic harbor]

everything but JPC

[devout bone]

JPC is hot

Basic bitch carrier but for good reason

[acoustic harbor]

CPC and AVS are way better options

[acoustic harbor]

the shoulders are garbage, there are way better options than a JPC

[devout bone]

For tarkov
LBT 6094
Crye AVS
Crye CPC
Ars Arma CPC
Wartech TV110
ANA M1/M2

There is so many

Anything You seen in the game or in RAID show works

[devout bone]

Yeah ik
I love my AVS

[acoustic harbor]

TV 103 is imho the best in the wartech lineup but TV 110 isn't bad

[devout bone]

I like their lv MBAV one

[mental burrow]

Anything lightweight? A good example would be arma 3 CTRG gear(I’m thinking of doing a tanoa thing)

[acoustic harbor]

the 102?

[devout bone]

Hmm
Good luck getting the uniform
You'd have to get it custom made

[devout bone]

Yeah

[devout bone]

Light weight?
JPC

It fits all 3 cosplays

Ig

[acoustic harbor]

Wartech TV 104 rig

would be a good lightweight option

[devout bone]

Tarkov doesn't have a JPC but like, it fits

Ig

[acoustic harbor]

the M2 is like a jpc

[devout bone]

I'm not sure if USEC uses it in RAID

M2 is bulkier

[acoustic harbor]

ArsArma A18 would be an option too if you want to use more ingame assets

[devout bone]

A18? Is it good

I've never seen anyone actually use it

[acoustic harbor]

i dunno I'm a fellow Armorvest enjoyer

[mental burrow]

Thanks

[acoustic harbor]

not full upperbody protection = a big nono

for me

[devout bone]

Clearly
You don't have an air fryer

Daamnit

No gif

[acoustic harbor]

Clearly
You haven't bough a Fort Product

[devout bone]

I have doe

A fort pouch

[acoustic harbor]

og ones?

or the gayshop ones

[devout bone]

Gayshop

[acoustic harbor]

bastion cringe

[devout bone]

Idrc if it's OrIgInAL

It's made by fort

[acoustic harbor]

isn't

[devout bone]

A pouch is a pouch

[acoustic harbor]

bastion makes it

[devout bone]

It says fort on the logo

[mental burrow]

Great. Thanks for the helpful info! I gtg

[devout bone]

It's one of the glad c horizontal pouches

Defender 2*

[devout bone]

Np

[acoustic harbor]

if it's emeral and Black = D2, if Grey or MC = Gladiator

[devout bone]

It's emerald

So yeah
D2

It fits my RG stuff

[acoustic harbor]

I have the Mc one, wanted to see how the quality is

the MC is the most shitty MC i've seen

[devout bone]

The emerald one is really good
Diagonal stitching and good fabric

The zipper is stiff though

[acoustic harbor]

Wartech stuff is great though

would recommend to everyone, got one of their old backpacks, hasn't failed me

[devout bone]

I want the berkut ruck but I'm saving for a bigger 50l pack to go camping with

[uneven fog]

anything on gayshop is 100 percent repro all the time. they even sell shitty soviet belt replicas, when real ones can be found like $5

[acoustic harbor]

no? Wartech, ANA, MBC, etc etc are all genuine stuff

you just gotta know what is what

some things like the Plash Palatka or MPL 50 are genuine shit too

[low fox]

our plates have been able to stop M993 since 2013

10 kilos are double the weight of standard US armor systems that perform similarly or better

[low fox]

i can assure you that it isn't

there are civilian plates with higher performance than the modern Russian SOF armor suites, and being issued current generation SOCOM plates, ain't no way lol

[acoustic harbor]

I doubt that

maybe

but there are rarely NIJ 4 plates that perform this good

[low fox]

it's a fact

Lol

the united states military does not use NIJ rated plates

Our contract specifications are completely different

[acoustic harbor]

ye no shit you don't have to rub it in everyones noses that US Military big and stronk

[low fox]

im providing relevant information to add context lol

but the fact is that we've had plates that stop m993 in service for well over a decade almost

[acoustic harbor]

Defender 2 or similar yes, Glad, Goplit, Sherp, so on and so forth I doubt

with civvies

SOCOM would be a lil funny if they were shittier

[low fox]

LTC produced all plates for SOCOM

They absolutely have publicly available plates that probably perform as good or better than current Russian SOF plates

Russia has proven time and time again that they don't have the research capability to get their armor systems to the same level as ours

[acoustic harbor]

have you seen even the new Russian Plates?

[low fox]

Yeah

And they don't even have a monolithic strike face

Which in itself tells me everything I need to know

[acoustic harbor]

elaborate

[low fox]

The most modern armor systems don't use mosaic strike faces because the weight penalty is usually significant

It's cheaper to produce yes, and you can get good performance

But you'll get much heavier plates

[acoustic harbor]

this is 10-12 kilos so yeah, big weight penalty, definetly

a full set including front, back side, with Deltoids, Groin and Neck including belt weighs around 11-12 Kilos

[low fox]

For reference, the plates I'm issued are rated for a "minimum* of B32 API, and they weight a little over 5 pounds

I think they might actually be 4.8 ish or so

My side plates both way less than 1.5 pounds

Like I said the minimum they're rated for is B32 API, I have no idea what the max performance is

[acoustic harbor]

big plate is about 6,5 pounds

[low fox]

As far as I know current generation Russian SOF plates are made of alumina carbide

[acoustic harbor]

side about 2,5 i suppose

[low fox]

I don't know if they have any boron carbide plates in service

[acoustic harbor]

silicon carbide hexagonal tiles, with a polyethaline backer

rapped in one layer of Kevlar and waterproof layer

[acoustic harbor]

LOOOONGGG time ago

6B5-15 used boron carbide plates

dragonscale

[low fox]

if they don't, they should

silicon carbide is good but it underperforms compared to BE

[acoustic harbor]

the new Fort plates resemble a few higher grade NIJ 4 plates construction

[low fox]

and PE suffers a fatal weakness to API

it's the reason we exclusively use boron carbide plates

Boron carbide can get insanely light while maintaining insane ratings

[acoustic harbor]

if you want to see the capabilitys of the plate i can send a vid of it

[low fox]

If it's the oxide video I've seen them

It's progress for sure, but it's still not on par

[acoustic harbor]

ye then self explanatory

it is nearly on par I say, but yeah I agree the US is up ahead

[low fox]

but it's probably the best eastern bloc armor out there

[acoustic harbor]

but you have to take in consideration the spending of the US compared to Russia

including economy

[low fox]

true

[acoustic harbor]

Russia is still today a shithole of a country in regions

still hasn't fully recovered from the 90s

and doesn't get aid from the west either so yeah, standing pretty much alone but improving to a good degree imho

[low fox]

I mean, they could just not invade people

[formal hamlet]

Damn

[acoustic harbor]

chechnya was like, chechens wanted independece, Russia said no, then war, Ossetia, ye dunno what russia wanted there but that was solved pretty quickly and Crimea, well 1st a lotta Russians live there an 2nd strategic spot for the Black Sea fleet

and donbass there is no Russia, no no, definetly not

nah fr, donbass is mainly just there to keep Nato off Russias borders, and Russia will probably not, despite popular believe, invade Ukraine

[hallow compass]

Ghost ping go hard

[mossy obsidian]

What makes you say that?

[acoustic harbor]

because it wouldn't be anything of use for Putin

1st it would be more international drama

2nd he just wants NATO to back off, not more land

3rd again, no use for him, the 2 People's republics are more of use to him than whole of Ukraine lmao

and iirc they do great, both now lifted sanctions on eachother ( they had conflict the past years, just some little political fights), also DNR and LNR are now able to participate in Russian Political actions like elections

and Russia gets already sanctions like cutting off their export of Gas and Oil to Europe, kinda ret*rded in my opinion though because Russia is one of the EU's biggest Oil and Gas imports

so yeah a full on war would just be a shot in the own knee

[trail shore]

did I just read political talk with the term lmao used in jt

[acoustic harbor]

yes

[devout bone]

I'm not meaning ballistic protection wise
Quality wise it's the same
Very well built kit

VOIN shit is top notch

[acoustic harbor]

I am still preffering UF Pro but ye Voin shit is pretty good

[devout bone]

UF pro is gud
I use Crye gen 2s

Lol

[acoustic harbor]

SRVV is also worth checking out they use original Multicam

GearCraft has some nice custom stuff

[devout bone]

Most top notch ruski companies use og multicum

[acoustic harbor]

like they customized a Glad V for a shield carrier

so the weight is distributed better

[devout bone]

Ars Arma does as well
And Mordor Tac does kinda but I'm not sure if they're a good company

[acoustic harbor]

Mordor Tac is a hate spot for me

they have that weird rubber only molle

[devout bone]

They make a decent looking G3 pants repro for half the price of crye

[acoustic harbor]

ANA, Wartech and MBC is very good

and G99 is fucking GUCCI

[devout bone]

G99 is gucci

I want their summer combat shirt so bad

But $300 makes me cry

[acoustic harbor]

i want their L5 Jacket for demi season use

because my UF Pro Jacket is a little too warm

[devout bone]

I've got a Volcom rain jacket which is essentially a Arceteryx Membrane jacket

[acoustic harbor]

and don't want to spend 500 on the rain jackets from them

UF Pro

how's arceteryx btw

[devout bone]

I wouldn't know
They're good from what I've hewrd

I use Volcom

Kek

[acoustic harbor]

kek

[devout bone]

$25 for the best rain jacket I've had

Looks exactly the same as the Arceteryx

[acoustic harbor]

I use Striker HTs, they keep warm even in -3 Degrees Celcius, and are great in hot enviroments

[devout bone]

I got it for 25 cause it was on clearance from $150

[acoustic harbor]

niiice

[devout bone]

Mhm

[low fox]

does anyone know the real world equivalent to Tagillas armor? tryna find it

[low fox]

Tan 6b13

If you want a repro greyshop and the tark store has it

[low fox]

That's killas armor

I'm talking about tagillas tier 6 Thorax rig

[radiant laurel]

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[acoustic harbor]

bruh, it's stated in the armor itself

Crye AVS

with just the Platebags and the small Cummerbund

[devout bone]

Crye AVS

MBAV variant

I should know, I own the exact variant

His one is beat to shit though

[swift yew]

Damn

I knew military would pick up on that tech soon but didn't think public releases that quick

[willow solstice]

Any homies into backpacking or recce

Looking to buy new pack

Preferably has front access

40-50L

Internally framed

I'm leaning towards the osprey kestrel 48 rn but

Meant for 4-6 day trips

[cerulean kayak]

Anyone recommend Esstac Kywis?

[acoustic harbor]

Ey anyone of y'all got some expertise on the Spiritus system rigs?

[low fox]

thanks, im tryna find the one thats as small as his is for a tagilla cosplay

i appreciate the answer!\

[dull snow]

if youre gonna try to recreate it fully, including the chain, find a cheap chinese copy of it

because have fun spending money on original crye and then butchering it

[low fox]

yeah i was planning to do that

i just figured it would be easier to find a cheap copy if i knew what it was called lol

[dull snow]

theres a lot of cheap AVSs

but not too many mbavs specifically

at least from what I noticed

[mossy obsidian]

What’s the mission

[scenic marten]

well

i mean i might start an arguement but to protect myself from the liberals that are trying to take my guns

[mossy obsidian]

Pretty solid mission

[cerulean kayak]

Sure.

Is a box for only magazines worth it?

[acoustic harbor]

literally the front and rear platebags with the corset

no cummerbund

[devout bone]

Politics crimge

No one cares why you have your kit

[cerulean kayak]

Yep.

[copper zealot]

Not really "gear" but couldn't find an appropriate channel to share this cool Osprey I saw at work today.

[low fox]

thanks!

[late vigil]

groom lake nevada

[copper zealot]

Nah, Buckley AFB, AF1 and Osprey escorts for Joe Byron.

[late vigil]

bideN!!! NO weay

makes sense

[copper zealot]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaa

[keen mason]

usec gang

[scenic marten]

Facts

[tiny hare]

k

[devout bone]

USEC > BEAR

truth

cope harder care-bears

[acoustic harbor]

threw some shit together, what do you guys think of it, pretty much jumping decades here with the gear

[devout bone]

Hot

No mechanix gloves

0/10

[acoustic harbor]

why would I need mechanix gloves lmao

[devout bone]

Because they're fucking great

And look good

[acoustic harbor]

My 6Sh122 gloves are great too, love them

[devout bone]

Gay army issue gloves

Chad private purchase gloved

[acoustic harbor]

Chad Ballistic Shield lmao

who needs gun when you can just bash your enemys heads in with it

[devout bone]

Vant touch this 🎵

[acoustic harbor]

Lmao

[acoustic harbor]

I still want it's big bro

love the amogus shield

0.5 ones?

[devout bone]

Yeah

They're a bit big on my hands

I have XS hands

I need PIG Charlie's

Women's cut gloves are perfect for me

[acoustic harbor]

child hands

[devout bone]

Ladies hands

I've got nice long fingers

So after I buy new earpro

I'm.gonna cop Ladies PIG Charlies

For the finer fit

[acoustic harbor]

what model u gonna buy?

[devout bone]

M32 Earmour Mod 3s

Since every other earpro is 1k +

And the Earmour with peltor gel cups is good from what I've heard

[formal hamlet]

Thats dope my man

[acoustic harbor]

Peltor ComTac XPIs? Sordins? XPIs are like 380-420 (Euros) here

I'm gonna get XPIs in the near future, have seen them tested and they're great

[devout bone]

XPIs are 1.1k aud

[acoustic harbor]

the fuck

[devout bone]

Yep

Sordin are 800

Honestly
Fuck that
Is rather get the airsoft comms suite and just double up earpro

Tho Mod 3s are real steel quality according to guys I watched review it

[acoustic harbor]

The Russian 6M2s may be an option they're quite okay for the cheap price

[devout bone]

Yeah but they don't mount to my peltor connectors

So I'm fine with just doubling up earpro for guaranteed arrival and modularity

[acoustic harbor]

you do helmet mounted earpro?

[devout bone]

Ye

[acoustic harbor]

wouldn't do that tbh

[devout bone]

Sits more comfortable than under helmet

[acoustic harbor]

if you need to get rid of the helmet quickly you have to dissasemble it and the earfit can get worse

[devout bone]

Meh
I'm definitely not going to worry about that kek

It just fits and looks cooler

I want 6M2s if I'm going to do a ratnik kit

It's on my wishlist

[acoustic harbor]

get 6M2-1s than the normal ones

the normal 6M2s are allright like i said but they aren't really used

[devout bone]

Dash 1s come with comms

Yeah?

[acoustic harbor]

Soldiers use earplugs

if you want to get Ratnik earpro, get the 6M2-1s but if you don't want to get aids by searching for the Azart PTT and paying the price for it get Baofeng connector modded ones

[devout bone]

Radio is no go anyway

[acoustic harbor]

what?

[devout bone]

I just use comms to connect to my phone

Radio license is needed for radio

[acoustic harbor]

OH YOU GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME

[devout bone]

I can't be arsed

Lol

It's an easy one but I'm lazy

[acoustic harbor]

it's a fucking handheld radio for 30 bucks

[devout bone]

Yeah

[acoustic harbor]

a fucking license?!

[devout bone]

It's too powerful

[acoustic harbor]

are you fucking britian

[devout bone]

Not britain

But close

It's whatever
Can't do anything about it

Except get the license that is

[acoustic harbor]

well anyway, you don't need the earpro

[devout bone]

Yeah but larp

[acoustic harbor]

focus more on armor, LBV and Helmet

[devout bone]

Already got it

[acoustic harbor]

you got a 6B45, 47 and 117?

[devout bone]

Ooh
For ratnik

No

[acoustic harbor]

yea i was talking about ratnik

[devout bone]

I was thinking if I was going to start
I was going to grab a uniform first

[acoustic harbor]

Would recommend 5th Layer VKBO

[devout bone]

Level 3 layer uniform or the 6sh118 reversible

[acoustic harbor]

3rd layer is underwear my guy

118 is the backpack

[devout bone]

The tan underwear is third layer?

Fucking christ
I'm stupid

[acoustic harbor]

the warm one

[devout bone]

5th layer it is then

[acoustic harbor]

VKBO Uniform system:

1st - Summer underwear
2nd - demi season
3rd - cold underwear
4rd - Summer Uni
5th - Demi season
6th - Membrane
7th - warm underjacket
8th - Chad winter uni

Boots: Faradei M906 Summer / Faradei M089 Winter

[devout bone]

Ahhh

Thanks

That should be pinned

It gets really warm here in summer
So I'll either get 4th or 5th

Or maybe that Mordor Tac recon suit to supplement 5th Lauer for warm seasons

And just make it darker to fit real ratnik emr

It's also like $60 cheaper

[acoustic harbor]

the most FARBest quote i have heard in a fucking lifetime

[devout bone]

Meh

FARB shit is fine in small amounts

[acoustic harbor]

no

[devout bone]

I like impression kits as well but $60 is $60 going towards a legit 6sh117

[acoustic harbor]

117 for 60 Bucks where did you see that

[devout bone]

I mean as adding on

I find them $200

Lll

Lol

Excluding shipping

[acoustic harbor]

200 is basic price

got a full set for like 240

[devout bone]

Nice

[acoustic harbor]

but was shitty batch so like 3 pouches are missing so my seller has to work on it

[devout bone]

Hmm
Mountain flora is pretty cheap and modern units still wear that

[acoustic harbor]

mfw Russia again proves to be a cheap whore

[devout bone]

And it's a funky pumpkin camo

[acoustic harbor]

meeeh like Morpeh does iirc

you don't need the 6Sh122 oversuit though

[devout bone]

The oversuit looks stupid comfy

[acoustic harbor]

especially I don't, because I do 15th seperate

[acoustic harbor]

uni and oversuit are comfy

[devout bone]

I could do the most scuffed conversion of my current kit into a FSB kit

Everything is there lol

[acoustic harbor]

what you got?

[devout bone]

Crye G2s? Check
AVS? Check
FAST MT thst I can stick a lszh mount on? Check

Russian IFF armbands? Check

[acoustic harbor]

G3s, AVS i haven't seen that often but yeah goes, Fast not really used outside of training

[devout bone]

I can make it look like a mock Armacom Lzsh

Just need to swap nod mounts and get a LZSH cover

[acoustic harbor]

at least better than paying the price for a real one (even if you can't)

I think they go for around 900 USD low and highcut

[devout bone]

G2s I've seen used with either SOBR or some regional FSBs iirc

Sheesh

[acoustic harbor]

still better than Gladiators

WAAAAYY better

[devout bone]

And I'm so glad FSB uses multicam

So I don't have to swap patterns

Tho ATACS is good

[acoustic harbor]

Multicam/Grey/Black

some units even still use K6-3s

[devout bone]

Based

[acoustic harbor]

wait

lemme get a pic

[devout bone]

Tho a FSB A impression would be hard to pull of with boobs

[acoustic harbor]

you fat or what

[devout bone]

Nope

Not fat

[acoustic harbor]

female then?

[devout bone]

mhm

[acoustic harbor]

here we go, took a while but found it

[devout bone]

K63
Neat

[acoustic harbor]

NewGen Emerald D2

[devout bone]

Spectre SKWO?

[acoustic harbor]

think so

[devout bone]

Hot

[acoustic harbor]

definetly isn't Surpat

[devout bone]

Too much blue

[acoustic harbor]

too much grey

[devout bone]

Those K6s look new

Still being manufactured?

[acoustic harbor]

nope

but they were produce IN MASSES

mint ones are still floating around

mint altyns are a rarety though

[devout bone]

That's actually really interesting

[acoustic harbor]

want to get a Rys-T actually

but they are VERY rare

[devout bone]

Yep

[acoustic harbor]

maybe as rare as my Maska I'm wearing here

[devout bone]

Reminds me of the frag suit

[acoustic harbor]

which one

[devout bone]

The solid grey one
Can't remember the name

[acoustic harbor]

Fortress, Mod T, Mod K, Grenadier?

Raid L?

[devout bone]

Not T

Mod*

[acoustic harbor]

Not that rare

[devout bone]

Really?

[acoustic harbor]

know multiple people who still sell it

[devout bone]

I must be thinking of another

Oxide did a video on it

[acoustic harbor]

that was the Mod K afaik

[devout bone]

Zaslon kits are also baller

[acoustic harbor]

bruh

got it wrong

Mod T is the prototype

Mod K is the full production model

[devout bone]

Fair

[acoustic harbor]

but yeah Ks are easy to find

Ts not so much

https://www.instagram.com/p/CWyFd98M2Le/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link here

demychsbakery

More stuff check in web: www.dgbakery.site

Also me in Instagram: demychsbakery

Fortress mod k, mint condition
Comes with bag, hood included
Size: 54-58/5-6

Price: 1200$

Likes

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[devout bone]

Zaslon kits are super easy to copy because they use so much western shit

[acoustic harbor]

not really

OG Sherps are a pain in the ass to get

[devout bone]

5.11 uniforms
MICHs or 6b47s (Armacom Lzsh or FASTs now)

[acoustic harbor]

TORs if you find them are pretty well priced

[devout bone]

I can't remember what carrier they run now

[acoustic harbor]

47s are only used by Rosgvardia, SSO in some instances and Army (including GRU)

[acoustic harbor]

Sherp

like i said

[devout bone]

Old gen?

Sorry I'm a bit slow

Lol

[acoustic harbor]

or some years back the OD D2

[acoustic harbor]

Slick

[devout bone]

Ah

[acoustic harbor]

the normal version is not that hard to get

but the slick version is

A PAIN

afaik

[devout bone]

I think I'd take the L and buy a normal one

And just run the LBV over it

[wooden shale]

you aint protecting shit with that carrier that low.

[devout bone]

Stomach is vital organs duh

[acoustic harbor]

mfw whole upper lung is exposed

[devout bone]

Fuck you need lungs for
Breathing?

Get real

[acoustic harbor]

lmao

also if someone is interested, under the Name Sherp this weird cursed thing was produced

don't know what Fort snorted back then but it has to be good

[devout bone]

Cocaine

Why does Russian equipment have the tendency to be the heaviest shit ever

Or bulky

This is a major trend until recently

[acoustic harbor]

Fort be like

[acoustic harbor]

it is still

Russian SF units need that Frag protection

because they actually care about their health

and doctrine

SSO for example

[devout bone]

Mum it's my turn on the BTR-80A

[devout bone]

All DA units from SSO and FSB that I've seen recently are all wearing lighter carriers

[acoustic harbor]

more of a support role, not like kicking doors in, so they wear THICC BOI armor, for frag protection

[acoustic harbor]

you haven't seen syria then

[devout bone]

Syria is even more lighter kits

[devout bone]

They've taken a page from western counter insurgency

[devout bone]

That's lighter than heater the fuck fort created

Whatever*

[acoustic harbor]

love this guy tbh

the legendary Atacs glad

[devout bone]

Yeah I don't consider thst bulky

Just like
Cumbersome
But not too heavy

[acoustic harbor]

a Gladiator is like

[devout bone]

Not my cup of tea
Since I'm.small

[acoustic harbor]

between 9-12 kilos per setup

[devout bone]

Yeah that's not bad

[acoustic harbor]

pretty much

when taking in consideration that this piece of shit is like 30

sorry for late reply

Internet was kinda shit

[devout bone]

Yeah wow
30 kg for that

Fuck that

[acoustic harbor]

love the OVR 3SH though

I think the 2-02 variant has the exoskeleton

[devout bone]

Sick*

[acoustic harbor]

but yeah this is about as juggernaut as it can get

again

Fort

[devout bone]

MW2 juggernaut my beloved

[acoustic harbor]

"FORT Technology" (Moscow), which previously reported on its creation of OVR-2-01 general mine clearance kits (for mine clearance teams of general army units); OVR-2-02 (for mine clearance teams of engineering troops); OVR-3Sh (for assault units of engineering troops).

this is like the description of the suits

I've seen some units use it with the K-2 passive exoskeleton

[devout bone]

How many of the Russian gear companies actually direct sell overseas

I think VOIN, ANA and Wartech do

[acoustic harbor]

yes

Fort has contract ONLY with the government

[devout bone]

Ars Arma?

[acoustic harbor]

yes

SRVV

[devout bone]

Nice
so all the actual Gucci quality kit

SRVV yeah

Gsupps 99

Gruppa*

[acoustic harbor]

Gruppa 99 meeeeh

a little harder to get their shit

[devout bone]

I love their shirts

[acoustic harbor]

especially armor

5.45 Design am not sure but i think so too

[devout bone]

So
Safe to say majority of guccier equipment is available from manufacturer

[acoustic harbor]

well they sell oversees but some DO NOT from their website

Gear Craft has some pretty gucci Platecarriers and stuff too

the Training helmets are... allright

[devout bone]

Gear craft is a good repro company as well

[acoustic harbor]

only their helmets are repro

the rest is genuine

love their BCC rig

[devout bone]

Mhm

[low fox]

mechanix gloves suck big cock

outdoor research is the only thing that i like

[devout bone]

Cope

I also like OR gloves

I generally like most gloves if theyre tight on my hands

[plain forge]

90k Q

[mental burrow]

I want it. Badly.

[acoustic harbor]

I know that some people sold like a small number of them outside russia, but the vest alone without plates and Shoulders, Groin, etc. was like 1300-1600, then take that in consideration with the fragsuit, like 3k easily

[burnt ocean]

Irl gear

[runic ember]

Which 556 rifle's that?

[burnt ocean]

Daniel Defense M4V7

[sudden depot]

how much can the AK mags hold

[burnt ocean]

30rds

[low fox]

no plates?

[burnt ocean]

There are plates

forgot my comtacs from the pic tho

No helmet yet, gonna get head eyes anyway

[hushed ether]

you should get one brother

badass ak

[slim flint]

you're practically a loot crate. Thanks for the kit.

[burnt ocean]

I will once i get around to having that much excess money haha.

[burnt ocean]

Good luck

If you think some level 3 A helmet is gonna do much you're sadly mistaken

[acoustic harbor]

it's gonna do much, including frag and they can stop rifles at some range/ricochet, also the only rifle rated helmets I know are the Mehler H5 with the upgrade kit, withstanding 7.62x39, and the Vulkan 5, being BR4 withstanding either 5.45 7N10 PP or 7.62 57-N-231 PS

[jagged plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/923395593672462376/930145780503822436/20220110_110647.jpg

hopefully now i can play at a solid stable fps (excuse my work desk)

[copper sphinx]

amd

so basically, no

jk tarkov isn’t very gpu intensive. it’s a very cpu heavy game though. as long as you have a decent cpu you can run the game. i have a gtx1650 and a shitty cheap cpu and can run it in high 55-60fps

[low fox]

the TBH R-1, ECH, IHPS, FAST R-2, and DiamondAge helmet model I'm forgetting are all rated for rifle rounds

[copper sphinx]

diamond age bastion?

i’ve heard those actually get use a bit

[low fox]

i think?

ive never seen one used in my life but im pretty sure that's it

[copper sphinx]

maybe. it was added to tarkov so i imagine it gets some form of use

[acoustic harbor]

interesting

[low fox]

Bump helmet gang, die like a real man

shout out to mogadishu

Die like a real man

[burnt ocean]

Wheres your rifle rated helmet?

[acoustic harbor]

my ZSh can stop a 5.45 FMJ out of an AKSU from 50 feet

[burnt ocean]

All of those are unabtonium for me, best i can get is 3A and pay 1500 euros for a good one.

[acoustic harbor]

bruh

ACH is like 400

Fast about 500 maybe 600

[burnt ocean]

Yeah i don't live where you think i live

[acoustic harbor]

were the fuck you live bitch

[burnt ocean]

My finances are none of you business anyway but i live in Finland, and fuck off.

I'll buy a helmet when i see it necessary to spend my own money on one. If shit hits the fan i'll get an issued helmet.

[acoustic harbor]

Bruh you got that premium time with russian shit

[burnt ocean]

How about you just worry about your own shit lol

[acoustic harbor]

why u so pissed man lmao

[burnt ocean]

Because you're aggrovating

[acoustic harbor]

I'm just baffled at the fact a 3A helmet is like 1500 in finnland

[burnt ocean]

I said a good one

[low fox]

must suck not having a capitalist defense industry

[burnt ocean]

I can get some cheap shit for like 400

But i'm not interested in wasting my money on that

[acoustic harbor]

ACH is like budget, but decent, like I would go for my steel buckets any time for defence but whatever

[acoustic harbor]

[burnt ocean]

This isn't USA, we're not filled with your surplus crap

[acoustic harbor]

I live in eu my guy

[jagged plover]

@copper sphinx i have a i7 10700k and a 580 8gb right now, until i get home and drop this new card in that is

[acoustic harbor]

I do not deal with the US shit, because muther fucking itar

[burnt ocean]

Whatever, if i'm going to buy a helmet i'm going to buy a good one. Same goes for all my gear.

[acoustic harbor]

what qualifys as a good helmet though

for you

[burnt ocean]

Good padding, lightweight, tested/rated to stop rounds, high cut with mounts for nods, earpro..

[acoustic harbor]

personally, give me some ACH, 6B47 I would be pretty much satisfied, would pefer a TOR though

High Cut, for anything else than fast paste wouldn't use but you do you

[burnt ocean]

Its a compromise

For comfort

[acoustic harbor]

I'm more of the tanky guy, don't care if i have some extra weight y'know

[low fox]

you will when your joints start to hurt

[acoustic harbor]

I hate it though when my whole rest of my upper body is expose, and dickflap is a must

I don't want either my arteries down there or my balls to get injured

[burnt ocean]

Mission dependant..

[low fox]

everything has a cost

[acoustic harbor]

if shit hits the fan there is nothing like "mission dependant, you use that what you have or what is most versatile, you're not in the military

[burnt ocean]

I am..

[acoustic harbor]

I understand when you have like a big kit and like conceal carry small, would do that myself, but mission dependant is in a civvie shtf situation bullshit

[low fox]

oh yeah, pretty sure they have forced conscription

wait that's redundant because conscription is by force

[acoustic harbor]

sry didn't know, but I hope you know what I want tl say

[acoustic harbor]

same here

but we are still stuck in the 70s and 80s

[low fox]

id be very upset if someone forced me to join the army

😔

[acoustic harbor]

except some units

[burnt ocean]

Regardless depending on your unit you can choose to carry less..

[low fox]

i will say

[acoustic harbor]

I was talking about a civilian shtf situation

[low fox]

i met a few guys in the carry less crowd

few of them ran out of ammo

didn't see them ever doing that again

they started carrying unholy amounts of ammo after that forever

[acoustic harbor]

I think at least 5-6 30rnd mags is a must

[burnt ocean]

Especially then, who is going to tell you what to wear? What gear to bring?

Depending on what the fuck you are doing you might be wearing just a chestrig, or a platecarrier, depends what you have.

[acoustic harbor]

because you said mission dependant, in civvie situation you would just use what is most versarile imho

yeah what you have

[burnt ocean]

Sure in some scenario..

[low fox]

that's the doom of most civilians i see building a kit

look

you don't need to make some "do it all kit"

thats dumb, they dont have multiple missions

look around, see where you are, and built it accordingly

[burnt ocean]

Of course

[low fox]

some random dude isnt gonna be changing his kit every 5 seconds

or ever for that matter

there's no need

[burnt ocean]

Just build the kit that works for you, simple.

[acoustic harbor]

yep, just the: what's best for the mission threw me off

[burnt ocean]

Even civilians can be doing different tasks, you don't know.

[low fox]

that is completely and wholly unlikely

[burnt ocean]

You can have a plate carrier and a chestrig and put on the one you think is more suitable for whatever you're going out doing.

[acoustic harbor]

I wouldn't carry just a chestrig ever except it's plinking

[low fox]

if i lived in say

vermont

[burnt ocean]

Nothing is unlikely when you're just imagining SHTF civilian scenarios... its not happening so its all imagination.

[low fox]

you will never ever catch me in a plate carrier

[acoustic harbor]

what is vermont like

[burnt ocean]

Why's that?

[acoustic harbor]

urban?

[low fox]

all mountains

forests

etc

[burnt ocean]

and?

Our country is like 70% forest

[acoustic harbor]

would use some kind of protection though, even if not needed

[low fox]

sure, and you can intentionally limit your own mobility if you want

but it's gonna bite you in the ass

[burnt ocean]

Depends

[low fox]

no

not depends

we learned this lesson

[burnt ocean]

Yes

[low fox]

in afghanistan

the hard way

[burnt ocean]

Right..

[acoustic harbor]

too much weight?

[low fox]

guys in sandals outmaneuvered our own guys

because they were bogged down with shit

[acoustic harbor]

oh yeah insurgency shit

[low fox]

and we only brought some of the fights to a close cause we had JDAM bombs

and they didn't

you don't get air support in a supposed SHTF

you shouldn't even be trying to get into a fight

you should be avoiding every single fight you see

[acoustic harbor]

yeah, I agree

[low fox]

your hope is that you never have to encounter anyone you know for a fact you aren't buddies with because that means you dont get into any fights

and how do you avoid people entirely?

by staying light and moving fast

that means when you're in a forest or the mountains, you ditch the plate carrier

even if you have plates, you take a round to the fermoral artery or something

you're dead

and a plate carrier isn't gonna save you

[burnt ocean]

If thats your objective

[low fox]

in fact most wounds are fatal now

that is literally the most realistic possible scenario

anyone who thinks otherwise watches too many movies

people want to be left alone and live their lives

most people aren't gonna be seeking out fights

[burnt ocean]

I agree

[acoustic harbor]

but when you get in a fight? then what, fe example they just have a pistol and shoot you in the area your plate doesn't cover ,you're incapacitated, I would say find a middle ground between protection and lightness

[burnt ocean]

Like you say, most people.

[low fox]

you're still dead if they hit you in the legs

or any serious areas

[burnt ocean]

There are always ifs and depends..

[low fox]

you don't have an army backing you up

you take a round and odds are you're gonna bleed out or it's gonna get infected

[acoustic harbor]

Dickflap, that's why it is a must for me personally

[low fox]

there's no secondary care to get you too

to*

but you limit your mobility