irl-gear

[real thorn]

he's like, 15

[lusty kestrel]

nuh uh

[high vector]

TRVTHNVKE

[drowsy kelp]

Average*

[magic thistle]

Buddy you are NOT cag

[high vector]

You wouldn’t get it

[magic thistle]

Cag would never

If yo slick ain’t slick, what are we even doing here

[plush topaz]

Slicc

[lethal dawn]

I do fucking love some slick ass MBAV

I always switch between slick and not slick 🥴

[glass lance]

It has arrived

[real thorn]

the better MBAV

[magic thistle]

The best mbav

[lean crow]

how low profile is this

[glass lance]

Too low 😭

[lean crow]

never such thing as too low

[glass lance]

That’s a scav rig if I’ve ever seen one

[lean crow]

3 slot

[glass lance]

😭

[lean crow]

just a tad low profile

[spring lava]

you complaining about nasty ass tan and thats a nasty ass brown

[potent garden]

thats an M/98 helmet cover bruh

[spring lava]

i got some black fabric dye or spray paint if you want it

[potent garden]

im not gonna spray paint it

whyd i do that

defeats the purpose of the camo

hold on, ill dig it out my shed and take a better pic

[spring lava]

camo dont do shit these days in real world applications when everyone country has thermal and NV drones

[potent garden]

also, yes camo still does something

saying anything else is being ignorant

[white pagoda]

[lusty kestrel]

enough plates to armor up an americna classroomk

[formal skiff]

Color pattern

[shell tide]

Exactly

[lusty kestrel]

whose

[shell tide]

WHAT is going on in this channel

scam plugs and propaganda videos

[restive blade]

elite larping if you ask me

[drowsy kelp]

Against thermal no but there is definitely something called NIR compliant

[plush topaz]

💯

[gentle mauve]

Cannoli how goes the islamic republic of canada’s navy

I cant believe canada bombed the shut out of iran for calling canada’s navy a terrorist organization

[plush topaz]

[high vector]

RRV 🥴

[rain hull]

I busted when I saw all those plates

[shell tide]

those jus me esapis

i got regular sapis in another pile

[rain hull]

Can I have one

[empty sorrel]

Not bad, but the newer (rev g) give marginally better protection at reduced weight

Quick maths, I think I've got five sets myself right now, plus a handfull of collectors items

What's the first in that stack, quite a deep green. Don't recognize it. Maybe very early ESAPIs?

[shell tide]

First Gen ESAPI

[shell tide]

ohh wait

1990s 75th Rangers SAPI front plate

[empty sorrel]

Nice

My oldest is one of the 30 cal sarvip plates

[shell tide]

ohh sick

i got a buddy that has the vietnam chopper pilot aircrew vest that has a front and back chest mold .30 cal plates that kinda looks like the plate to the left in ur pic

[empty sorrel]

Plate to the right is more rare though. Ceradyne 80571

[glass lance]

Holy shit it’s here

[livid thistle]

i have a local store that sells a bunchs shit, alyonka included

its probably my favorite chocolate

[glass lance]

It’s so GOOD.

[zenith raven]

Rate my setup

[lusty kestrel]

shiver me timbers/10

[tight condor]

pretty dope pc case

[lusty kestrel]

hehe

[graceful yew]

is it good

[drowsy kelp]

Yeah alyonka is good

[real fog]

I wanna buy a plate carrier but I dont know what to look abt them can some1 help me

[glass lance]

It’s probably the best chocolate I’ve ever had. I know that American chocolate is just junk now

[plush topaz]

Always has been

[empty sorrel]

Lbt6094

[drowsy kelp]

Depends on what purpose you have for a plate carrier

[lusty kestrel]

larp

[rain hull]

I had had a stroke trying to read that

[rocky lion]

Not mine, I stole it

[high vector]

Just get a JPC 2.0

[amber harness]

Got a pair of Specs

[real fog]

I dunno I just want one

[hardy heath]

Just got these in yesterday

[drowsy kelp]

Okay cool for what purpose

[topaz bridge]

because its cool why else would you get one

[drowsy kelp]

I use one for my job 😑 it’s fucking pointless unless you absolutely need one

[topaz bridge]

well i am unemployed and i have one so i use it to think "woah that is awesome" when i see it in my closet once a week

[drowsy kelp]

Lmao 💀

[real fog]

what you do for yo job

[real fog]

you sound corny ash

[drowsy kelp]

Military

[drowsy kelp]

You sound dumb as hell asking “what plate carrier to buy” when you’re probably fat and can’t run a mile without being out of breath 💀

[lusty kestrel]

lol

i may have shit cardio but atleast im not fat

[real fog]

yeah fs mister tuff guy aka militay guy

[real fog]

who hurt you this much

[drowsy kelp]

Accurate cag moment

[lusty kestrel]

i wish there was a fat version of that

lol

[drowsy kelp]

Your question is intentionally ambiguous and meant for engagement 😂 plate carriers aren’t a one size fits all and need to be worn in to work out the kinks. Most of you fuckers are going to let it sit in a closet and it never gets used 😂

[lusty kestrel]

ye thats why a vesti s better

fr

[real fog]

why are you so hostile

I suggest you to read more so you can understand what you read if I know that I wouldnt ask it here would I

[drowsy kelp]

I suggest you use the super computer in your hand to find a search engine like google instead of asking a dumbass question on discord.

[empty sorrel]

😂 240p digital taobao special

[empty sorrel]

IMO the 6094 is a good catch-all.
Won't get as light as a modern scaleable plate carrier, but is actually recently equipped out of the box, and very well built.

[drowsy kelp]

Qore ice plate exo gen 3 is my beloved

[real fog]

you still cant answer my question

who hurt yo fragile ass

you are a grown ass man getting angry about a question are you a janitor at a military base or some shi is that why u get angry so fast 🙁

[old portal]

😂 😂

[drowsy kelp]

What’s your question 😂

Janitor probably has better pay and deals with less bullshit honestly

[old portal]

@coarse laurel i finally fixed the couple ribbons that were glued in the wrong place lol

[opaque lintel]

🤣

[high vector]

Iraq? OKAY UNC 🥴

[old portal]

Ya. Almost 3 years worth many years ago lol

[high vector]

I was talking to some new dudes and they called me unc 😔 im not even 30

[old portal]

Shit I been out 16 years lol

[high vector]

I’ve been out for 5 and they STILL had the nerve to call me old?!?!

[drowsy kelp]

Yeah age will do that unc

[rain hull]

Anyone know any good Russian surplus stores

@ me if so

[opaque lintel]

Where are you in the world

[rain hull]

USA

[plush topaz]

Yeah they call me saba. Means grandfather in Hebrew. I'm 38

[high vector]

😐

[white pagoda]

We love wasting money on shit we dont even need :) i thought about carriers but then im a grown adult that try to buy things that i actually use and not keep in closet

[grizzled bolt]

IM DEAD

[fluid plover]

I'm stealing your cheese

[ancient sandal]

sorry your not cag

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/909634382061502525/1252448670675370025/attachment.gif

[drowsy kelp]

Your name sounds like the 7th one in line to be bombed

[ancient sandal]

that's quite literally the point yeah he was blown up

Incredibly observant of you

[dry nimbus]

Ngl the antifrag glasses over the gas mask would look hilarious in game

[grizzled bolt]

Asian-Scav

[hardy heath]

Tarkov with NVGs

[spark prism]

bro u sound gay af.. can some1 help me... hahahaha

[amber harness]

Shellback tactical has some good one's if you haven't checked there yet

[formal onyx]

Got me a SPEAR fleece jacket used by special forces

Despite being XL-Long it fits me pretty well, i wear Small long BDU' s or a Medium field jacket

[white pagoda]

That kinda look like the regular fleece that the navy issue out to everyone

[broken arch]

Was doing some errands running with a friend today and saw this in their car. Thought yall would get a kick from it.

[old portal]

I was in just a regular infantry unit and we were issued those around ‘03

[lusty kestrel]

shit so shiny not only light is bouncing off

[random sequoia]

you got finessed everyone got those, hope you didn't overpay for that

[formal onyx]

No, not everyone, these do have differences to the standard issue fleece

And I paid $40

The SPEAR Leps Level 4 fleece is different

The 2nd one is a normal Polartech

I saw like a half dozen or more of those on the racks, only one of the "DAAK" stamped SPEAR fleeces

[lusty kestrel]

whats so special

at the end of the day its just a hoodie lol

acting like you got the mona lisa

[formal onyx]

TL:DR its got elastics on the waist and cuffs unlike the Standard Polartech, and it was limited issue to Special forces guys, it's not a Mona Lisa but it's a pretty cool find

Task force Dagger guys famously used them in the GWOT

And this one was used well into the ACU era since there's Velcro sewn on despite it being a 96 manufacture date

[lusty kestrel]

wow so cool

its just a hoodie man

[formal onyx]

I mean, it is. But to me it's a pretty cool jacket

Another item for my green beret kits

[old portal]

We definitely had the SPEAR version issued in ‘03 as a regular grunt for specialized winter equipment

[formal onyx]

I see

[white pagoda]

yeah i was gonna say, the fleece that was issued to me has elastic waist and cuffs as well, the only main difference is the loop area for name tag

i dont like wearing it tho, i like the condor jacket more that our supply acquired for us for free

[old portal]

I just remember that version of Fleece from early in Korea. I remember the polartec ninja gear after that

[white pagoda]

i had that too, its the new meta plates

sosig

[formal onyx]

Tbf that was added by the previous owner, cos this thing predates the name tapes

[formal onyx]

I also have the SPEAR Ninja suit funnily enough

Level 1 and level 2

[high vector]

Easily overshadowed by the PCU L5

[jade cape]

My favorite patch

[real fog]

I will turn you into a vegetable if our paths ever cross

[real fog]

thank you

[old portal]

What more do you really expect from a person that calls themselves Lil Crip lol

[high vector]

youre so real for that

[rain hull]

Lowkirkenuinly think I’m getting 6b45

[real fog]

Idk I just wanted some recomends for a plate carrier lol some guy called me gay and otherone dumb fat cant even run a mile without being out of breath lol

[ancient sandal]

as someone who's ran one in all weather I would not wish it on my worst enemy

[rain hull]

Oh

Yeah but it looks cool

So at least there’s a drip factor

[worthy heart]

Summer paint job done

[lusty kestrel]

is this green or grey i can tell

cant

[worthy heart]

Are you slightly colorblind?

[lusty kestrel]

ye

[worthy heart]

That makes sense

It's green

[lusty kestrel]

okay

i thought u were geting a winter camo for sumer lol

[worthy heart]

Lmao no

This was the before

Which next time I paint I need to rub sand on it

I had to sand down the old texture so I lost my rough texture

[lusty kestrel]

okay

i luv like olive green

[worthy heart]

Pretty much what it is with some lighter green added

I printed out a bunch of paint stencils

And used the klmk pattern

[lusty kestrel]

klmk awesome

is

[old portal]

We used to use that textured spray paint and then hit it again with a flat coat over top

[worthy heart]

Id buy it

But I really don't want to spend 20 bucks or more on paint

[old portal]

Ya we went thru quite a bit. Also another way is that water based texture wall spray in a can. Then flat paint over it

[worthy heart]

I'll have to look into that stuff later

[icy pecan]

Are BD using Integrated Stealth Harness' in this kit/what exactly is this? Or what would yall recommend to achieve this look for a kit?

[brazen estuary]

E220 riggers harness

LEAF

It's not 1 to 1 but it's designed for belaying

And is actually gucci unlike whatever that temu shit probably is

[plucky sphinx]

Lame

[spiral elbow]

Holy moly this dude is rich

[lime abyss]

We have Colonel Ali express over here

Airsoft channel is down the hall and to the right

[spiral elbow]

Damn I was waiting for his reply to make this punch line

[lime abyss]

[empty sorrel]

Its all airshit

Where's my reaction image...

[spiral elbow]

See my additional comment above

[mystic spindle]

Should i buy a ledx irl

[empty sorrel]

Are you a registered nurse?

[lusty kestrel]

no hes fat so he needs it

[high vector]

weird

[topaz tusk]

brokies when they cant afford what you have 🤓

[topaz tusk]

you´re broke

[high vector]

fake quads and a set of earmors? yeah buddy

[topaz tusk]

Imagine spending 3000 USD on quads for Airsoft

You prove you are broke and also stupid

[high vector]

calling people broke when youre posting up some garbage is interesting

[topaz tusk]

you are broke you cant even afford this garbage dude

[high vector]

this channel is "irl-gear" not "weird airsoft trash"

[topaz tusk]

now you are broke, and stupid

and mad

[high vector]

youre broke, your gear is chinese and youre probably fat tbh 🙂

[topaz tusk]

3 in 1

mad

[high vector]

prove me wrong

[topaz tusk]

mad

why are you mad

[topaz tusk]

Totally did not see that there thanks for pointing it out

[high vector]

Anyway, here’s a single plate that costs more than your entire kit.

[topaz tusk]

Happy for you budd

haha

[high vector]

We need an airsoft only channel to keep these brokies out of here

[plucky sphinx]

2 dollars a box of twinkies take it or take it

[topaz tusk]

You can keep up with my content here #airsoft

But please dont be mad there too

[old portal]

no one is impressed with airsoft gear here…

[high vector]

thanks, but i wont. keep the chinesium posting there pls 🙂

[topaz tusk]

okay and btw i wouldnt wanna miss on the 2 dollars offer if I was you

the guy is still being generous

[spiral elbow]

Ok brokie

[topaz tusk]

wouldnt carry that shit for free

[topaz tusk]

200 USD clones of Idogear

im outta here

[high vector]

later lmao

[spiral elbow]

Airshit club is 2 channels down

L8r

[high vector]

thanks for the help gang

[old portal]

Real…$11k

[plucky sphinx]

Gib

[spiral elbow]

I go back to binos every single time

[old portal]

Pairs nice with this PEQ16 FP…also real

[lime abyss]

Does a pack of rip its and some zyns work?

I’ll trade!!

[old portal]

Haha last time I had a rip-it I had a haircut like this and was nearly 20 years ago

[lime abyss]

Dude that’s sick, love me some rip-its

Still wanna know who thought changing from m81 to ucp was a good idea

[livid thistle]

the dod

[old portal]

Loved my first few years in M81. It was top notch

[lime abyss]

Top class camo, I have a set I wear all the time for work or hunting, still cool to see some marsoc guys rocking crye M81’s

[white pagoda]

Wait i didnt see the airsoft gear in irl gear

I think he deleted it

[amber harness]

Got a flag patch, some Marpat pants in medium, and added a funny sticker to the back

[empty sorrel]

Platemogging

[worthy heart]

What you need for that helmet

[amber harness]

they do have that strobe at my local surp store I just gotta wait a week for I can afford it

[worthy heart]

Lmao I'm talking about the modern warfare 2 helmet cover

But that works too

[amber harness]

beleive me if I had the money I would ahve gotten it

[worthy heart]

I just got the patches

But I ordered the set on drop

I watched it sell out within 5 minutes

[amber harness]

this is what I got so far.

[worthy heart]

Based

My helmet started out as a ach

Where its at currently

[white pagoda]

Qore flask spotted

[amber harness]

[ionic oriole]

are these walkers any good?

They seem good for the price and I can get another for free
they seem a decent first headset

[worthy heart]

Walkers are generally going to be pretty decent for the price

Just don't expect the greatest sound design

Cause being able to tell direction with walkers are generally not great

But for a range trip headset it should work fine

I'd pick up some gel cups off Amazon to replace the foam ones they provide

Like my Walker razors I bought back in 2018 2017 and they still run but I need to replace them at some point

[ionic oriole]

buttt like as a good first headset?

I do want a more high end set later on but
Im stuck with muffs and ear plugs

Is there anything else at this price point worth it?

[plucky sphinx]

Yes

[ionic oriole]

they’ve also got
this

which might be the better deal

[old portal]

If you shoot a ton for a solid electronic muff I recommend Sordin

[ionic oriole]

yeah I was looking at their stuff
they released a new line of headsets not long ago
the supreme x2

A bluetooth one is in the works so I may as well continue saving money and buy one when they come out

[worthy heart]

Yes

They have a cheaper model too

Then there's impact sport I remember being solid

And like what ragged said sordins

Or the cheaper peltor electronics are decent too

[ionic oriole]

im not entirely sure
I dont want to spend too much on a headset since theres other things I need to pay for
I gotta do stuff to the glock and buy an optic for it
get a light for my rifle
I gotta build out a pistol/battle belt and get some other gear

[worthy heart]

Get the Walker razors then

Like 30 40 bucks

They are cheap fairly decent

If you don't want to blow too much money on it that's the better choice

[ionic oriole]

yeah fair but
the other walkers headsets what would you say
like the recons or the firemax?
they seem very cheap right now and I can save 35% more with a code

[worthy heart]

They are probably going to be fairly decent

But I'd swap the muffs for gel

It's more comfortable long term

And keeps a seal better

They don't have front and rear mics so expect directional hearing

[ionic oriole]

Yeah all I really want is just to be able to hear voices

[worthy heart]

Then you set

Standard will be fine

[near iris]

Sordin is for audiophiles with too much money, buy peltor.

Dude is looking at 130dollar ear protection and get "I recommend Sordin" as a reply smh

[worthy heart]

Sordins are still cheap

[near iris]

Pffffffff

[worthy heart]

You can find them on sale for the same price

It's not hard to get sordins at 100 to 150

Peltors tend to cost more

[near iris]

I reject your reality and substitute my own

[worthy heart]

Than most sordins

[near iris]

Can you send me a link of a 100 dollar pair of sordins?

Or are we talking like used?

[worthy heart]

Used

Buddy of mine got 2 of them for 200

[near iris]

Oh well that's a completely different story yeah you can find anything for great prices if you look long enough and are willing to take a risk

[worthy heart]

Fairly recently I think on tacswap

Plus for new prices like these

With addition of a coupon code

Sordins are budgeted

Like if you compare them to peltors with the contac series peltors are way more

Twice the price

Same for mic vs no mic

[near iris]

It's double his budget if we just go off a picture of 130 dollar firemax whateverthefucks, you'd be looking at sportac not comtac in that price range.

[worthy heart]

If he waits for a sale then why not

Cause the firemax is on sale

[worthy heart]

But also

[near iris]

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry fucking christmas

I'm just bored tbh there's nothing wrong with sordins they're fantastic, just tend to be very expensive imo

[old portal]

That’s why I said if you shoot a ton it’s worth the investment…I paid 250 for brand new sordin x supreme…but I also shoot a ton

[near iris]

Do you do earplugs or no with them?

That's pretty much the only drawback I've heard on sordins is they cancel less noise

[worthy heart]

That too

[rain hull]

Does anyoneknow of any head phones I can use with a bubble helmet

[old portal]

No. I’ve never doubled up earpro but I have super fucked hearing already. Proudly failed every hearing test after my first OIF deployment

[worthy heart]

I only double up in doors

[near iris]

Same, probably wouldn't hurt to double anyway though hahaha

[worthy heart]

Indoors is necessary

For doubling up

Outside I don't care

[near iris]

same in completely fucked hearing not being deployed I've managed to avoid war zones

[ionic oriole]

My ears are still good so I definitely want to keep my hearing

[worthy heart]

I run suppressors most the time now

But my hearing is definitely not as good as it was

[old portal]

I didn’t wear earpro in Iraq as a TL or SL because we used the Thales speaker mics. Didn’t use any til my last deployment and used Comtac 2

[near iris]

Some claim that doubling should be done no matter what, if you still have good hearing then it probably doesn't hurt to keep it that way, I'm at a point now where I got 2 different tinnitus frequencies going on

Didn't even know that was possible before getting a second one

[worthy heart]

Ooof

See when I was in highschool my buddy and I would wear cheap ear pro and any time we saw one of us without one of our ears covered

We made it a game a shoot when we noticed it

[old portal]

I have the typical full time tinnitus but every couple weeks I lose complete hearing in my left ear for about 30-60 seconds. About 3 weeks ago I woke up completely deaf in left ear that lasted about 8 hours before it came back 🤷‍♂️

[worthy heart]

Ooof

[old portal]

At this point I think it may be a neurological issue related to the TBI

[ionic oriole]

oh shit
well we are in the 21st century
stem cells show extreme promise to reverse that kind of stuff

idk much about about them though
read a snippet about them every so often

[worthy heart]

For hearing idk

Most of the work now for that still I think will be hearing aids

Unless we can make replacement eardrums and such

[ionic oriole]

yeah
but it’s being heavily looked into and shows big promise from the stuff im looking at
if I were in your guy’s shoes
why not like volunteer for a clinical trial to get hearing back through stem cells?

[near iris]

Stem cells are great yeah but I don't know how relevant they are to the average dude at this point without being wealthy or traveling to mexico after a lot of research

[ionic oriole]

yeah thats fair

[near iris]

Hearing is probably the least of his worries if he's an active combat veteran with tbi, should probably focus on mental health at that point, but then again I don't know the dude.

tbi isn't that bad though, cte is a completely different story.

[topaz bridge]

theres lots of stem cells in your pee

[white pagoda]

If u save up 400-500 dabloons, you could find some brand new comtacs 5 and above in tacswap, just gotta be patient

Oooorrr a certain fb group, saw a few 5/6 between 400-600 dabloons brand new

[lusty kestrel]

just try something cheap adn see if it fits you 🥀

[white pagoda]

Razor was my first earpro and it was a good starter :)

Def get the gel cups from amazon especially if you wear glasses

[empty sorrel]

Love my V's

Took em out to the range for the first time. Started to rain. I could hear the plastic thud of the raindrops hitting Shotshell's on the ground.

[ionic oriole]

I wonder what the newer ones are like

comtac IX’s released recently

[stark oar]

@sour ivy

[rain hull]

Don’t be dissin the Mosin

[empty sorrel]

the like second worst ww1 rifle?

[rain hull]

Yeah?

So what it’s the second worse don’t be dissin it

And if it was the second worse why would it have been used up until the Cold War?

Before you say yes there cheap 🙄

[empty sorrel]

literally couldnt afford anything better

[old portal]

This. It was cheap and available

[rain hull]

I’m not saying it wasn’t shitty just don’t be mean to it

It is a shitty rifle

But it’s my favorite shitty rifle

[empty sorrel]

dont be dissin the mosin
It's shit

-you

[rain hull]

Yep

[lusty kestrel]

The 1917 enfield was one of best ww1 rifles

[rain hull]

I don’t care about the best wwI rifle

[hallow viper]

Anybody wanna go to labs?

[gentle mauve]

Fellas i need some input

Do i buy L7 or L8 EMR jackets

and yes I’m going to probably mix MCT and EMR

because why the hell not, whos gonna stop me

[shut escarp]

They are still used in Ukr by ruski troops doesn't make it good.

[shut escarp]

Why not both.

[gentle mauve]

Ah see this guy gets the meta

L7 PCU under an L7 EMR jacket

Under a layer 8 EMR jacket

And then top it off with the multicam 6B23

[lusty kestrel]

isnt it just militia

like in donbas

[lusty kestrel]

why 😭

[gentle mauve]

And then kryptek highlander boonie on top

:3

And then customized desert tigerstripe vans shoes

[lusty kestrel]

multi slop

i love olive green

[gentle mauve]

Specialist multislop reporting sir.

Sob

No gifs

1984

[gentle mauve]

Zzzzlava

[shut escarp]

Still counts as russian troops

[lusty kestrel]

nah

its donbas troops

donbass army best army fr fr

t62 is best tank

[shut escarp]

Russian troops are down to using those too 💀

[lusty kestrel]

yea

[lusty kestrel]

they could give some to armenia smh

i want them tod estroy azerbaijan

[shut escarp]

Nah they can't afford to none left 😔

After all they lost ~1200 T-80s alone. Truly that became an endangered species

[lusty kestrel]

😔

[lusty kestrel]

i dont believe that bro lol

that is an insane amount

like do they evne have that many

[vague pier]

Does anyone know where to get a pair of the ice axes that inspired the "red rebel"?

[calm pebble]

Kind of a weird question, but what chest rigs would y'all recommend? I was looking into a used taps with aftermarket fat straps (around 85 USD), but I was just wondering what other options are out there for less than 150 USD.

[livid thistle]

via the wiki: Easter eggs and References: This is the same ice pick used by Lara Croft of the Tomb Raider game series. Both models are based on the discontinued 'Rebel' line of ice tools produced by DMM Wales in the early 2000's.

[old portal]

https://ebay.us/m/P7dsOB

Pair of discontinued picks

[mental mortar]

Is there a buy/sell option here? Or is that not allowed? Cause my RMR HD won't fit in my holster. Dont need it

[old portal]

Not allowed. Take it to tacswap, ar15 EE or the new GAFS

[mental mortar]

For sure

[shut escarp]

check Orynx those are only visually confirmed they have like between 250-500 left

mind you Russia lost over 4000 TANKS alone in the war that's not counting IFV/SPAA

[plush topaz]

That's insane

[shut escarp]

For any western military it would be ye.

[empty sorrel]

In a guess you could get a non-discontinued version that looks 95% the same for less that 2g

[old portal]

🤷‍♂️

[lucid plaza]

WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY OTHER 6 SLOTS???? SMH this game isn’t even realistic

[deft minnow]

you obviously got 3 tarcolas in there too

[lucid plaza]

That’s 6 Tarcolas and 4 Alyonka, I’m supposed to have 6 slots left like wtffffff

[fluid plover]

Imagine if it was real form fitting

Gamma holding 20 alyonkas

[wide ginkgo]

You’re welcome for the Kappa #Carried

[formal onyx]

Planting My Markers on a customs night raid be like

[white pagoda]

Hello frens

[delicate aurora]

henlo

[amber harness]

MS2000 acquired

[wide ginkgo]

This shit is SO god damn strong.

I understand the concussion effect when you use this now

[elder fog]

Yep, i've used it too.

Its INSANE.

[wide ginkgo]

It’s like you threw Vicks in the Pack A Punch

Whew my sinuses are so clear and I’m not even sick

[lusty kestrel]

is this like a opiod

or what

or is it like one of those thigns you smell

[wide ginkgo]

It’s Golden Star

From the hit game Escape From Tarkov

Real shit though it’s like Tiger Balm.

[lusty kestrel]

yeah i know

but like is it just like cream u apply

[wide ginkgo]

Ah, more or less yeah

Same as in-game

[delicate aurora]

have you figured out the truck to opening it

[wide ginkgo]

No gloves it’s not hard

With gloves? I understand the long ass animation

[delicate aurora]

i have big ahh hands it’s next to impossible for me to open until i figured out the finger nail trick

[muted lynx]

not here, or in this server in general for that matter.

[wind rain]

does anybody know what boots are used for BEAR URON pants?

they look very similar to these salomons but they're different at the same time

[white pagoda]

Salomons comfy af

[formal skiff]

Solomon are good but new products are little bit sh*t

[plush topaz]

Does it still work

[plush topaz]

Yeah. Not the best.

I've been trying to find non goretex Lowa Zephyrs forever. Impossible!

[amber harness]

Yep!

[plush topaz]

Amazing

[formal skiff]

Yea I cry about it

[plush topaz]

[wind rain]

Do they even exist?

[plush topaz]

They do. It's just north Americans and Europeans for that matter generally buy waterproof crap. If I wear waterproof boots In Israel id die

My Lowa breachers are non goretex and they took forever to find.

[lusty kestrel]

Why Die?

[plush topaz]

Too hot

Waterproof boots don't breathe as well

[lusty kestrel]

okay

[stray torrent]

Sweet

[visual rune]

those are just the old version of what you posted circa 2015

[acoustic spindle]

?codes

[solemn carbon]

They make actually high quality shit fr

[white rover]

Anyone know where I can find Knights arm pads, already got the shoulder pads which was a pain in the ass but I can't find the arms.

[gilded shell]

Guys I'm trying to make the injectors in real life but I need the labels
Does anyone have injector labels and the details

[lime abyss]

Wasabi Vicks

[wide ginkgo]

There’s a page on Etsy that does them 3D printed with labels

[icy pecan]

On the topic of boots from earlier. What do y’all recommend? Willing to shell out good money for smth good quality but not abysmally expensive

[old portal]

I wore Merrell Sawtooths on a couple Iraq deployments. As a cop I typically wore Solomon’s.

[amber harness]

I use timberlands that I got as a gift and they’ve been holding up well for a few years now

[plush topaz]

what kind of boot? low/mid/high cut? waterproof? Purpose? Hiking? Rucking? Running?

[unkempt needle]

Alfa Pilot M/77s are unmatched but they are a little on the pricy side. If you take care of them they last for 10+ years.

Salomon, Alfa, under armor, Haix and belleville are good brands

Just go test some and buy the ones that feel the best.

[gilded shell]

Thx

[bleak cloud]

lowas or haix

zephyrs are the goat but haix has been making amazing boots as of late

[amber harness]

Got a new patch. Helmet is bassically done now besides nods and needing to change out the light cause the one on there doesn’t work

[white pagoda]

Got issued iotv and an ach :) hopefully we get to keep it

[alpine agate]

I love my Danners

[old portal]

🤦‍♂️

[sour badger]

truth

[plush topaz]

Zephyrs are quite light. They get ruined quick in tough terrain. I use Lowa Breachers in Gaza.

[spiral quail]

You are awfully brazen for being a war criminal

[plush topaz]

Hey a good war criminal needs good boots.

[old portal]

🤦‍♂️

[spiral quail]

Posted from tel aviv but unironically

I'm surprised the mods haven't banned you yet

Which they should

[old portal]

You’re the one trying to start a politicalal debate…they’ll mute or ban you before anything

[delicate aurora]

😈

[spiral quail]

Nothing political it's crime

Sorta like having a MAP pride flag for a PFP

[shut escarp]

my guy as someone who had to study international law of armed conflict... Don't claim its a crime without proof. There are many things that are gray areas in law of war especially when dealing with non state actors.

[spiral quail]

get a loada this guy

💀 😭

[old portal]

Wouldn’t even try to reason with this kid…randomly attacking someone for serving in their military because they don’t like it. Seems pretty unreasonable

[spiral quail]

if we're going by that metric would you attack a palestinian for being in their military?

[shut escarp]

Palestine doesn't have a military.

[plucky sphinx]

This guys stupid

[shut escarp]

Unless you mean Hamas in which case they are a terrorist as it is you know designetated a terrorist organization

[plucky sphinx]

Intelligence of Luke warm rock just wanting to pick fights

[shut escarp]

and as such a legitimate target

[spiral quail]

terrorism is defined by ethics not law

[shut escarp]

oh c'mon at least a rock listens.

[old portal]

Yes he is. Never posted here…comes in attacking someone for serving in the IDF…confirmed unreasonable and outright dumb

[plucky sphinx]

You’re right I apologize to rocks

[spiral quail]

being open about being in the IDF is a direct parallel to admitting you're a nazi

[old portal]

@muted lynx can we solve this guys problem.

[shut escarp]

UN Security Council Resolution 1566 (2004): Defines terrorism as criminal acts with intent to cause death or serious injury, to provoke a state of terror in the general public.

[old portal]

Post your gear and not your political discontent

[plucky sphinx]

I’m all for freedom of speech and freedom of opinion but something’s you keep to yourself, go ahead and do us a favor by departing

[shut escarp]

soo being open to serving in a military of an internationally recognized state is? nazi?

do you even know what a nazi is?

[spiral quail]

the UN is an illigitimate council funded by the US and Israel, they don't get to make up their own rules and claim it's the baseline

[visual rune]

Cope

[plucky sphinx]

Lmao what a guy

[spiral quail]

ethnic purity and ideological homogeny by force, nationalism and imperial overreach

which are all tenets that israel abides by currently

[old portal]

99% it’s a 15 year old from a shithole EU country

[plush topaz]

@spiral quail dude we are here to chat about gears and guns. I've been in this server for years and I'm not going anywhere. If you don't like me you're free to leave. Otherwise you continue to act like this you won't last long.

[old portal]

🫡

[shut escarp]

i mean he has german in his bio

[old portal]

Thanks to whoever stopped his chaos

[plucky sphinx]

More than likely, absolutely no idea what they are talking about or valuable input

[ionic badger]

Quite a take

Anyway

[shut escarp]

''enthauptung'' in his bio

(also may i point out he has only joined this server in december of 2025 soo not even 4 motnhs)

[plush topaz]

He's right about one thing*. I'm definitely a war criminal. I littered in Gaza once or twice. I promise to plant a few trees to offset my carbon footprint

[visual rune]

he's never felt the comfort and traction of a nice pair of Salomons and it shows

[plush topaz]

[plush topaz]

4 months and already muted. Epic.

[plucky sphinx]

How dare you, you scum

I can’t believe scum like you would litter

Should be ashamed, no bread and reasonably priced equipment for you

[shut escarp]

kek pretty sure that's not even a crime in civilian circles at least judging by how dirty most EU/US capital cities are.

[old portal]

I sprinkled the Tigris And Diyalah Rivers with thousands worth of AK and Dshka…still waiting on my littering and polluting the waterways citations in the mail

[plush topaz]

Hahahahaha

[shut escarp]

soo sad you sould have brought them home!

i'm sure a dshk would fit in a carry on if you try hard enough

[old portal]

That guy can’t respond but can read this….his head is probably exploding right now that I single handedly poisoned and destroyed the Iraqi commercial fishing industry with destroyed weapon receivers and magazines

[plush topaz]

[shut escarp]

wonder how long his mute is

1h? 1 day?

[plush topaz]

Best I could do was a loaded AK magazine off a Hamas naval commando from Zikim

I still have it. In all its rusty glory

[old portal]

No amount of time would suffice

[shut escarp]

i mean with the mental capacity it showed its not exactly the smartest being out there.

[plucky sphinx]

I wonder if they are still there

[old portal]

Some ppl just have broken brains…can’t be fixed

[old portal]

I would imagine they are for sure. It’s been nearly 20 years since they were sunk

[plucky sphinx]

Gonna book a ticket rn and find out

[plush topaz]

I have no issue with people who don't agree with me or what I do. But like we are in a guns and gear server lmao.

The rules are pretty clear about politics

[plush topaz]

Stay away from the Iraqi PMF. USAF A-10's been having fun around there past few days.

[old portal]

I wonder what it’s like to join a server about guns and gear…own neither and attack random people at a random time over hurt feelings

What a sad life

[plush topaz]

[old portal]

Do you think my GWOT gear triggers him?

[plush topaz]

War criminal

[old portal]

Probably caused him to smash his keyboard

My warcrimes are boosting his local electronics economy

[plush topaz]

Or write a Reddit manifesto

[old portal]

God I wish I knew his Reddit name. Now that’s some good reading

[vernal pelican]

🙃

I’m free now

[plush topaz]

Yo my tiny hat is sick tho

[vernal pelican]

It got removed it again

This server is wack and the mods suck

[delicate aurora]

😈

[vernal pelican]

Fun police

[old portal]

Yes it’s completely their fault you can’t follow the server rules…

[vernal pelican]

Keep following the rules

Good little boy

[delicate aurora]

i will thank you

[old portal]

🤦‍♂️

[vernal pelican]

🤓

[somber charm]

As one should

[vernal pelican]

🤓

[somber charm]

https://tenor.com/view/so-good-wink-smile-oh-yeah-its-true-gif-7639977825704256527

[vernal pelican]

Can’t even send a smiley face GIF

Hell yeah

[delicate aurora]

[worthy heart]

What I miss?

[shut escarp]

A (I assume) German kid? Judging by the way it acted accused Cannoli of being a war criminal for being in the IDF.

[worthy heart]

Cannoli is a cannoli

Smh

[shut escarp]

If you scroll up the "Yaz" individual

But I go afk in life now soo bye

[old portal]

Just a complete moron that thinks anyone cares about his pro Palestine views

[worthy heart]

Everyone keeps talking about this pro name Palestine but he must not be that good cause I don't see his name in any sports

[old portal]

lol. Never drafted

[worthy heart]

Lmao

[vernal pelican]

No politics follow the rules

[delicate aurora]

thank you

[plush topaz]

[deft minnow]

anybody got boots not used for stompin on kids?

[plush topaz]

I have some size 11 Lowa breachers. Brand new never stomped.

[left delta]

I have a pair of Nike SFBB1

[plush topaz]

Super comfy. Super light. Love these.

[left delta]

extremely comfy. I was just shocked when I googled pictures about the price. I found mine at ross for like 30 bucks. the store I got the picture from has em for 200

[delicate aurora]

i have these in black

[hidden copper]

Danner Tachyons

They're fantastic, light weight and good drop on them

[shut escarp]

here too @muted lynx @ionic badger

[somber charm]

!ban 851863179607801856

[echo rapids]

✅ Banned jellcrab (Case #204322)

[somber charm]

cheers.

[obtuse oxide]

[somber charm]

prime example as to why these channels shouldn't (exist) have image perms

[calm stone]

Cringe

[lusty kestrel]

what he do

[somber charm]

absolutely nothing, plain and shrimple mod abuse

you might be next!!!!!

[lusty kestrel]

glup

[somber charm]

-# scam bot

[delicate aurora]

reported

i have done my job

[shut escarp]

@muted lynx @ionic badger if you would

Thank you!

[fierce shell]

ig its a gear?

1 week of 3d prints (cause i gotta reprint the petals like 5 times)

[rain hull]

“Finna Nut” I’m dying 😭🥀

[stray torrent]

😂

[shell tide]

Found some pretty epic equipment

Vietnam era pilot plate armor

Funny how the huge plates mold to the body

Also if anyone could help me figure out some info about these plates and what they were made for/worth please let me know as there is like nothing online about them.

[ancient mango]

sick dude

[lusty kestrel]

how heavy?

[shell tide]

like 25 pounds heavy

very heavy

[lusty kestrel]

not that bad given u just sit on ur ass

[shell tide]

lmao true

pretty sure it was for heli pilots due to direct fire to heli pilots was very common in Vietnam

[somber dew]

ready for irl shooterborn

[plush topaz]

Awesome

[real thorn]

@river olive

not the only channel

[warm shell]

entire apfsds 😭

[warm mason]

78000 rubles

My workplace got that tarkov paper 🔥

[fierce shell]

yuh

[white pagoda]

Hello frens. Is there a group or server where people sell gen 4 iotv ?

[nocturne ether]

my shirt setup is complete finally

[real thorn]

romania 🔥

[shut escarp]

@muted lynx @ionic badger same here

[magic lintel]

yall seen what the sectary of war said about having firearms on post

[old portal]

No commander in their right goddamn mind is ever going to sign off on Joe carrying his Glock to the PX on payday weekend

@fluid plover

[potent garden]

Its still technically secretary of defense given the bill to change the name of the DoD hasnt actually passed through congress

[magic lintel]

you think they'll pass it?

[potent garden]

What they do or dont in that regard doesnt affect me as im not american, but if you ask me its a waste of time

[rancid sequoia]

Tbh I’m scared of guns…

[ionic oriole]

then why'd you put yourself in an environment filled with them

[rancid sequoia]

Idk its so scary

[craggy merlin]

old interceptor vest with old expired but basically new ESAPI 30-06 AP rated plates (NIJ4)

[wheat warren]

Thats actully sick

[frozen hawk]

is that a fucking tank shell 😭

[fierce shell]

yes it is

[jagged cape]

killa tracksuit done

[plucky sphinx]

Let’s find out if they hold up

[craggy merlin]

they arnt cracked at all so id imagine other than being outa warrenty they are probably fine

[plucky sphinx]

Well I got some 30-06 ap if you wanna test em

[craggy merlin]

id rather not mostly b/c i dont want broken ribs

just b/c it can doesnt mean it will be enjoyable

[gentle mauve]

Some E-4 carrying like a homebrew flintlock to the PX buying like a 12 pack of monsters

[old portal]

If anything this was my TLs when I was an SL many years ago. Excellent combat leaders…goddamn hellions stateside

[gentle mauve]

Some E-1 carrying a hellcat in his left pocket

(Not even the Springfield handgun - the dodge car)

[old portal]

Only 950 a month for 84 months and it can be all yours

[shell tide]

I got 1 or 2 of em

[lime abyss]

Tactically acquired from the pawnshop nearest to the base 😂

[shell tide]

What 200 bucks can get you on marketplace is crazy if you look hard enough

[lime abyss]

Highway robbery

[shell tide]

literally

[lime abyss]

Lucky mf

😭

[shell tide]

if anyone in the US wants it lmk

ima do you a favor

[rancid sequoia]

I don’t want it but it looks cool

I think

Type shit

[shell tide]

Ucp is dogshit

But the plates are like 70% of it’s value lol

[old portal]

What size plates?

[shell tide]

medium ESAPI

like in the pics i sent

with the standard 8x7 side plates

[lusty kestrel]

you can just paint it green no?

[shell tide]

I mean yeah you can dye it fairly easily

[ashen edge]

very jelly, in perfect condition too I would even say good enough to get some beat covers and dye those instead

some dork with hyper fixation on 2010s us military kit might need it for his basement museum

[naive vortex]

do you think the tarkov server could pool enough money to afford a cessna

[lusty kestrel]

I mean if IT was like every one gives 30 dollar

Then prolly not

Idk

[naive vortex]

maybe some day

[amber harness]

I fw the flannel

[old portal]

What about the Hi-Point? lol

[amber harness]

It’s one of the pistols of all time

[old portal]

All yours for $189.99

[warm snow]

tks

i thought it would combine with the gear

and tomorrow I will buy This shit

[amber harness]

next time throw on some khaki's or brown eddie bowers and it'll match better with the rest of your gear

[warm snow]

yeah but i liked more “urban”

but I have some clothes like that

i have a cargo pants

[amber harness]

You’d be surprised how well plain brown works in places like that

[warm snow]

I could try but tomorrow

[amber harness]

That reminds me

[warm snow]

now I’m at bed

[amber harness]

I replaced the fuck ass LWH chinstrap with a hard head vets one and now putting on comms isn’t a bitch anymore

I used to have to loop the headset through the strap and put on the comms and helmet at the same time and it was a pain.

Now the helmet just slides on no issues

And my peltors get here tomorrow

[warm snow]

I had one helmet like that

and i used to had one Comtac 2 headsets but they Broked

[warm snow]

an ulach

tan

[amber harness]

Ah damn that sucks

[warm snow]

Yeah…

but now i will have a new one

and I’m buying the helmet and the headsets only for 35 dolars lmao

[honest cipher]

Two scavs

[lusty kestrel]

bro playing american reserve

[honest cipher]

?

[lusty kestrel]

its a desert

[amber harness]

[warm snow]

I just bought new headsets

They look and fit great

[amber harness]

Nice nice

[amber harness]

New comtacs and chinstrap feel great honestly

[stone niche]

30 meter zero with an ak47, 4 in the center the others I pulled, still though I think it’s a 3.2 or so moa not bad for a standard civi ak

[warm snow]

That nikes fits fkn cool dude

I want to buy a tracksuit

for Killa clothes

[keen spear]

It turns out that if you give the cat figurine to the cultists, they bring a green card.

[lime abyss]

I just know some guardsman pawned that

That shits worth like close to 1000$ if I remember

New

Or at least I saw one going for that

Without plates as well

[warm snow]

final results

[shell tide]

dayum

[lime abyss]

However this is with soft armor

Idk if yours comes with that

[shell tide]

mine does not come with soft armor

but mine also has plates

i dont think that one does

so

im kinda still figuring out its value

[stone niche]

You might wanna make sure it isn’t government issue cause they might want that back

[shell tide]

uh

and how do i figure that out

[lime abyss]

Don’t tell anyone

🤫

I’d take if off this channel as well

[stone niche]

Usually has a serial number and what not on the back of the plates and the soft armour as well as the tags of the plate carrier

A lot number as well

[shell tide]

yeah it does

[lime abyss]

I just know someone pawned that thing

😆

[shell tide]

as well as inspection stickers

[lime abyss]

What size is the piece itself

[shell tide]

size small

[lime abyss]

Damn

Unfortunate

[shell tide]

with small esapis and 6x6 inch side plates

[stone niche]

I mean if you don’t wanna have that on then I’d just return it keep in mind you might or more than likely get anything in return but if you don’t tell anyone or if the soldier gets investigated you might get tracked

[shell tide]

lmao

[stone niche]

Had a guy get to levenworth cause he sold a plate carrier he found

[shell tide]

ill just digitally scratch out important info

[lime abyss]

“Found”

[stone niche]

Yeah

[lime abyss]

[lime abyss]

Best to do that

Or remove the tags straight up

Good find I’d say

[shell tide]

ight

[stone niche]

Definitely a good find but the plates I’d say sell them ones you get the tags off cause they are doo doo, u less you got a small body they will only protect your lungs and hear that’s it, I picked up a lot of shrapnel around my body cause the plates don’t cover much

[shell tide]

yeah the plates dont fit me

this is purely for a resell

[lime abyss]

LMAO

Dudes selling everything

[stone niche]

The armour and the rucksack are the only thing I wouldn’t sell

Those things get you tracked

Some national guard guy judging my the odd unit patch

[lime abyss]

I saw a pristine USMC FILBE ruck

For 150

FB marketplace is the way

[lime abyss]

Yep

And the old ass flak vest

Def a reservist or gaurdsman

[stone niche]

The iotv

[lime abyss]

Yeah

[stone niche]

Yeah that hunk of shit sucks

[lime abyss]

Couldn’t be as bad as wearing those old IBA’s in the desert

[stone niche]

Joined in 2020 and they where still giving peices of it for the iotv

[lime abyss]

Old PASGT for 150$

And pasgt vest

[lime abyss]

Wow

That’s rough

[stone niche]

Switched to the msv ones I deployed tho

[lime abyss]

Do you guys get the new IHPS or do you wear FASTs

[stone niche]

We got the fasts around 2024

Keep in mind I was in a armour unit

[lime abyss]

Ahhh that makes sense

[stone niche]

Some people had it back then a lot earlier

[lime abyss]

What do the infantry units usually get

Same thing?

Tbf if I was an infantryman I’d prefer a helmet with more coverage like the IHPS

[stone niche]

Same thing basically we don’t have dual nods yet tho

[lime abyss]

Yeah, the marines are getting all the shit now

[stone niche]

We got like a weird fasts tho it had ear covers which got in the way of using walkers and other muffs

The only ones I’ve seen work where sordins and peltors but unless you a officer I don’t see a Joe buying that

[lime abyss]

Ohhhh those ones yeah

I know what your taking about

That’s strange

Can’t you fit comms under those though?

[stone niche]

It’s hard most ear mufs are too bulky but some do fit,

[lime abyss]

I have an older mich helmet

I can fit like

[stone niche]

That had enough space to fit tho

[lime abyss]

Slimmer profile comms underneath

[stone niche]

Yeah

[lime abyss]

But the conmtacs with the larger battery storage that poked out could be troublesome

[stone niche]

Those would maybe fit with the new helmet cause they are somewhat shaped like the conmtacs but cheaper options won’t fit

[lime abyss]

Either that or high cuts with rails and you can mount your comms on the rail clips

[stone niche]

The armour unit was and has always been too broke to buy high sped stuff like that

[lime abyss]

Do they make you buy your newer gear

[stone niche]

No but they only issue it when nessesary

Such as deployment

[lime abyss]

Makes sense

I was interested in doing airborne, just need to finish up my last bits of school and weigh my options if I were to do something like that

[stone niche]

Dude just try ranger

If you fail atleast make it almost to the end that way you can give and keep some of the gear they give

A guy I served with had a lot of crye gear cause he was put on issuing detail and kept atleast 2k worth of clothes

[lime abyss]

Damn lmao

[lime abyss]

Option 40

Yeah

I was looking at that as well

if I do fail though I’d be sent wherever

It’s not like how it used to be to where if you failed you were just sent to an airborne unit

[stone niche]

Depends

Option 40 is hard to get

Very rare

Most go to a airborne unit and go for ranger joe there

[coarse laurel]

The cut most of the jump slots across the army so it doesn’t help

[lime abyss]

Yeah that was what I was thinking

[coarse laurel]

They decimated airborne classes starting FY26

Never seen so many people get dropped on day 0

[stone niche]

Airborne ain’t as hard anymore airsault is a little more respected now days, airdault airborne and eib are pretty common sight now days

Having your ranger tab is like a right to shut anyone up who doesn’t have it sometimes even those above your rank

If you get pathfinder you have a high IQ

If you go ranger don’t let the sand worm get your ass, I’ve seen a lot of people dislocate their shoulders

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They changed it so there’s a PFT and they removed the slip trainer so if you can’t hold that pull up you are gone

Before that it was so easy you can fall out of runs and they won’t drop you

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Yeah I guess they compensated cause it was fairly easy when I was in service

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As of last year

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Gang gang

I’m on medical recruiting duty now tho

I left last year

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And a medic at that too, sarn I salute you 🫡

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I miss working there lowkey, granted I worked mainly the RSLC side of the house

Worked ranger for 2 years, part time ABN school then RSLC for my last stretch

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Must have been a good time the people are what make it harder to forget

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😂😂😂 good times

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@turbid marsh

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What’s that radio on the side, it isn’t an mbter

I’ve seen it but my initial didn’t have them

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152

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Probably a newer version of the mbter

Never seen these

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It’s a generation or 2 behind

They got very fancy radios now

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Was put as radio op for a while I got to see some weird wizard stuff as well as performed some my self

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As cadre I used this Harris

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Ahh yeah, we had to turn those in on the unit I was on cause we had no chargers for them