irl-gear

[old portal]

Only ever personally saw them hit with 7.62x39 and shrapnel. Did see shrapnel from an s vest pen front plate, all the way thru body and full exit rear plate. He survived but didn’t return to Iraq that deployment. That was a shit day

It was a TL in 2nd platoon. All 3 of his guys were killed by the vest with most of his squad also knocked out WIA.

[ashen edge]

That must have been one hell of a bomb and a nasty piece of shrapnel

[old portal]

S vest in a courtyard during structure clearing. My squad was about 50m away on an adjacent rooftop but occurred in a blind spot to our security

[ashen edge]

No words I can say could ever properly address that experience I really appreciate hearing about these things as maybe it can help me make more informed in the future

[old portal]

It was much different probably when I was there. 03/04. The training was really really good at the time. Some of if not the best live fire training I had during my 8 years in.

[snow scarab]

Yeah you already said that. Shut up

[ashen edge]

I’m looking to get some wet weather layers is there any features you guys would specifically suggest to look for?

[snow scarab]

Buy as much of the ECWCS system as you can

Shits great

[ashen edge]

I have the waffles and silks sofar so it shouldn’t be too hard

To get a full set

I may end up being a UCP Ulysses if I’m trying not to break the bank

Might not be the worst given I’m a walking loot piñata for anyone with a weapon

certified civilian for now at least

[lusty kestrel]

what did he say

[snow scarab]

Some shit about wearing a gas mask during airborne ops

Idk

He’s an idiot

[lusty kestrel]

okay

[old portal]

@coarse laurel Is jumping in MOPP even a thing to train on? Who chooses a PLZ in a chemical environment?

[coarse laurel]

I’ve personally never seen, I don’t think jumping into a chem environment is a thing unless I’m wrong

There’s way better methods of insertion

For something like that

[old portal]

Ya i was wondering who wears pro mask doing airborne ops.....doesnt sound like a credible thing

[ashen edge]

I know nothing but a CBRN drop sounds like a huge hassle as you would have to be wearing all that before you hit the ground a mask, filters, suit and decon combined with the normal jump kit sounds like a snag or accident waiting to happen

[coarse laurel]

no one drops into a contested zone like
WW2 anymore

a chem environment also counts as contested

[ashen edge]

Not after the VDV tried it 2 years ago💀

[coarse laurel]

you are right about it being a hassle, alot of shit can go wrong while wearing all that shit

while on the silk

naturally though they will probably carry promasks on their rucks, maybe the whole NBC ICE set will be dropped as a supply drop later on

lol if a DZ gets gassed im sure the jump will get scratched

[ashen edge]

I cannot think of anything worse than watching a possibly invisible kill you in minutes on contact with skin CBRN threat area coming up at you while your tied to some silk strings

[livid perch]

wagan croski you’re cheesin me styll

[coarse laurel]

they issue us atropine auto injectors but wont be much use if the nerve agent gets you first haha

[ashen edge]

Aren’t they also very much not good for you long term💀

[coarse laurel]

naturally

[ashen edge]

(Obligatory not service related comment here)

[ashen edge]

When you talking with your boy about his IRL kit and ifak and when asked if he knows how to use it he says “they seem pretty simple and they came with instructions”

[storm peak]

Nah, there isn't anything in any airborne reg/manual for any organization for jumping with mopp on

There are special suits for different terrains that certain units are authorized, but no mopp

[old portal]

Ya i didnt think that was a thing...makes sense why that random guy kept spamming the same thing with no context lol

[storm peak]

If ya want I can send you the usasoc reg and 82nd CAASOP for this stuff, I've done my homework for airborne stuff as it's required for jumpmaster

[grand mountain]

jumping in MOPP sounds like an easy way to lose your entire airborne platoon

[storm peak]

At most I can foresee jumping with the mask at your hip

[old portal]

Thanks but I have no need for it lol. Reading that stuff now a days would be like a foreign language

[grand mountain]

yeah thatd make sense but for a full chem environment with anything beyond respiratory danger i feel like the rubber ripping is too much of a risk

[old portal]

I probably still have my old Ranger handbook in a box somewhere but that’s about it for me manual wise

[storm peak]

It's crazy to think that people don't know that most filters can only sustain 3-5 minutes in the most common chem weapons

[grand mountain]

yeah, 10-20 if you're very lucky

i think in a situation where i need a gas mask i would simply just die

[ashen edge]

I don’t know definitely but I think those numbers are a scenario where the agent is a formally devised weapon at peak density and assumes that there is no change in the environment

Doesn’t change anything though I think it’s just worth taking into consideration

[ashen edge]

I was curious and went looking and the only number I could find was 8hr or until smell/air resistance from the filter in CBRN but my sample size is way to small , would you be able to suggest anything specific searches/terms to find more detailed/differing numbers

[old portal]

The problem is there really is no real quantitative number you can put in a filter life other than up to this many hours brand new from manufacturer. It’s always going to to be dependent on numerous factors to include the type of threat it’s filtering, the saturation level of said threat and the overall work environment determine the amount of breathing that it’s having to sustain. Could be hours could be minutes depending on many variables.

[tidal forge]

funny thing i found Clin from tarkov in my bathroom when i was shitting ngl i wanted to loot that thing cuz i needed it to quest for peacekeeper lol

[ashen edge]

That is my impression now as well. MIRA has a formula that allows for an estimate as accurate as you can get but it is relatively complicated and the the metric it uses are not really measurable without specialized equipment

[formal skiff]

Clint East-woods

[empty pilot]

Does anyone know what these gloves are called?

[lusty kestrel]

master chief

[plucky sphinx]

Those are emerald web specialist gloves from CS2

[atomic mirage]

I'm surprised they didn't change the name in game

[blazing glacier]

Fucking cool man JPC 2.0 and Strandahog?

Fuck it we self promo on here
I make gear Cool ass Gear
my ig and website and all that is cryptid observations

[tidal forge]

yeah

[meager isle]

They did. They replaced the C with a K.

[tiny meadow]

Usurper v2 finally arrived

[lusty kestrel]

osprey mk4 okay?

[compact dagger]

New patches acquired

[lusty kestrel]

yo

osprey mk4

or just ospreys in genera

okay/

[manic spade]

hey yall, i wanted to buy a surplus jacket, hopefully not camo
any suggestions on where to find good ones?

[livid perch]

A: What does this mean. B: Surplus store

[ashen edge]

I’ve not heard any good things about them the one I have is to big for me but the panels are stab resistant this also makes them stiff and hard to move in

Also they use proprietary plate shape idk if sapi style ones will fit

[ashen edge]

The osprey plate might be cheap if heavy though

[lusty kestrel]

oh okay

so it just looks cool i guess?

[ashen edge]

Yah and it should be protective just not nice to wear

[lusty kestrel]

alr

id rather get a olv

but well

you aint getin a olv wit kevlar

[lusty kestrel]

what

[severe prawn]

$360 straight from Ukraine

[old portal]

$300 for an empty plastic tube…seems like a good investment lol

[dusk violet]

Might be empty tube

Or used

[old portal]

That M136 has 100% been fired and just a hollow plastic tube

[severe prawn]

Just gonna write fiberglass tube on the shipping manifest. Customs don’t care

[old portal]

Ya literally nothing to care about. I just can’t understand why anyone would pay $360 for one

[severe prawn]

because it's legitimately the cheapest you can get them. I'd probably just put it on my wall next to my M72 LAW and NLAW

they do RPG 26/22s for like 50 bucks as well

[wild vessel]

New mouse is great, comes in at ~41.17 grams (with grip tape on sides)

Magnesium construction, 8k polling rate

[low zodiac]

link?

[severe prawn]

server won't let me send it, want me to DM you?

[low zodiac]

Yes

[craggy merlin]

won the OIP holographic night vision

will be here if im lucky in like 2 weeks

[empty sorrel]

Certainly looks interesting.

[lusty kestrel]

ok but why woudl u want
it

[empty sorrel]

Do you have the proper power supply for it?

[lusty kestrel]

https://allegro.pl/oferta/plyta-pancerna-kuloodporna-armox-3-5mm-iii-kl-sapi-17296399615

on a scale of 1-10 how poopy are thesae plates

for the price

[craggy merlin]

uses standard batteries of some kind

in the first pic that little finger tightenable cap holds the battery or ies

[old portal]

Brave as hell buying non refundable outdated night optic tech from Peru for $1800 my friend.

[craggy merlin]

1200 😎

[craggy merlin]

its 1 of those things i probably wont find for sale ever again and had a chunk of money saved for spending on dumb shit 🤷‍♂️

[empty sorrel]

That's what I figured buying my old armor plates

[real whale]

sauce?

[wild vessel]

What in the heelll

[wild vessel]

Never seen a device like that, p cool

[craggy merlin]

apparently they probably wont work due to the holographic lenses delaminating, but im hoping that hasnt happened to these yet or its fixable

[wild vessel]

I'm over here just rocking my katana housing + dual l3 white phosphor unfilmed tubes

[wild vessel]

Is it for a vehicle or something

Or peronsell

[craggy merlin]

both

[wild vessel]

I can't really tell how it's use

Oh

Like where it mounts

[craggy merlin]

oh just on face

[wild vessel]

Oh that's dope

[craggy merlin]

but they were used by drivers and pilots along with on the ground

[wild vessel]

Hoping you can figure it out and get it working, that would be a fun project

[craggy merlin]

yea would love to have them working, i cant imagine lenses that were made in the 90s are tooo complex for this thing compared to how far AR stuff has come in recent years

[craggy merlin]

mmm old shitty russian night vision that atleast is hard to kill

the 1pn34 works surprisingly well considering the last owner used a 9v instead of a 3v battery

[lusty kestrel]

@cloud stirrup did u order the plate

[lusty kestrel]

its so goofy given how big it is

[lusty kestrel]

whats a good weight for a helmet

1kg?

[lusty kestrel]

is dyneema kevlar good

[marsh flint]

With all the cushionings etc yes

[lusty kestrel]

wdym

oh

ok

[lusty kestrel]

is dyneema good

[marsh flint]

Don't know

Get a pgd

[lusty kestrel]

idk what that is

[hoary ember]

Type shi

[lusty kestrel]

what is thatttt

@marsh flint

[real thorn]

protection group denmark

[lusty kestrel]

so what does it do then

[lusty kestrel]

is it kevlar

or what

[snow scarab]

It’s a helmet manufacturer. Google is fuckin free guy

[lusty kestrel]

ok cool

but i didnt ask about helmets

[snow scarab]

Except you literally did

When you ask about helmet weights and then ask about Kevlar, most people think you still mean the helmet

Also same thing applies. Use Google

[lusty kestrel]

true shouldve phrased that diferent

[wild vessel]

amazing

[quasi wing]

Hat

[plush topaz]

Ya

[tidal forge]

irl looks better

[vale forge]

Probably does

[snow scarab]

Is that an actual SF carbon?

[upper sandal]

no i aint that kind of money but the NODS are real

[empty sorrel]

It's a glorified bicycle helmet anyways. Does it matter?

[violet ether]

Original 6sh118

[lusty kestrel]

does a osprey mk4 with camo that doesnt resemble their teeth exist

[lusty kestrel]

how many pkm boxes can u fit in here

[vale forge]

Wdym that's just a couch

[snow scarab]

I mean yeah. In terms of the durability and proper affects of the harness and shell

[coarse laurel]

@storm peak I got my assignment, got assigned to AMEDD recruiting out west, 6th MRBN

lol

Apparently they didn’t have slots for recruiters out west

[storm peak]

Fuck you

I'm jealous

You're going to have that good good life

[coarse laurel]

I’m gonna convince the CSM to try and let me stay in Vegas when I do the interview

Since the HQ is in Vegas

Kinda bummed I wasn’t doing normal recruiting but I’ll take what I can get lol

Also means extra schooling in Fort Knox at a later date

[storm peak]

Nah man, you lucked out, you don't want the drama of highschoolers

Thats some good stuff

[coarse laurel]

Would I still be eligible to go 79R at a later date if I’m an AMEDD recruiter?

Just in case my injury doesn’t heal

[old portal]

What’s considered out west for recruiting? Like CA?

[coarse laurel]

Colorado, NV, Arizona, Utah, Cali, Oregon, Washington

[old portal]

And WTH is AMEDD

So entire west region. Got it

[coarse laurel]

Army medical department

Basically I’m gonna be recruiting doctors, nurses and other medical specialists

So I’m basically dealing with smart and professional dudes instead of high schoolers

While it’s gonna be chill it’s gonna be an adjustment for me since I don’t identify with hospital types that much

[old portal]

So you’re first assignment is get me back in but Active Guard as a recruiter so I’ll just do my remaining years and retire from that lol

[coarse laurel]

I’m competent enough when it comes to the medical field but it’s easier for me to relate to regular army stuff given my experience

[coarse laurel]

Let’s get you a DA civillian job

Haha

Much more $

[old portal]

Too risky these days with federal cuts happening

[coarse laurel]

After the hiring freeze it should free up

A lot of the dregs are getting dragged out kicking and screaming and we both know there’s a lot of useless MF’s working some bullshit job and hiding out

[storm peak]

79r is going away but yes

42T new hotness

[violet ether]

Maybe almost 20?

[ionic badger]

I'll hit you up as soon as I finish my BSN, anything to help your quotas

[coarse laurel]

Bet

[cloud stirrup]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/115939393946?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1foKaoMIXQs6ZKDnNKwhQdw1&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=115939393946&targetid=2320093655185&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9012644&poi=&campaignid=21222258394&mkgroupid=164713660992&rlsatarget=pla-2320093655185&abcId=9408285&merchantid=110310228&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg9KHxd64jAMVWjAIBR066jifEAQYASABEgJK2fD_BwE

[cloud stirrup]

https://www.thearmybox.com/mtp_osprey_mk4_grade_1.html

This one looks good^

[tiny meadow]

We’re so back

[lusty kestrel]

nah

kinda mid

[ebon drum]

im black

[lusty kestrel]

ok

[craggy merlin]

arrived and are functional lenses still catch the tube light

hard to take pic through them tho

[vivid cove]

Baller

Better than 19th airborne corps. 12 miler and a 4x36

[lusty kestrel]

what that

not the boots

wait is that still part of the boot or like some extension

nvm im

dm

dum

[old portal]

@coarse laurel only took 10 years to do…https://youtu.be/0kVeM20ubLA?si=09AfHA2P30HK3CWy

[ashen edge]

Good to see the DOD Liquor budget finally putting in work 👊🇺🇸🔥

[old portal]

That’s the exact reason they needed someone like Hegseth as SecDef. Someone that was still in touch with what’s actually happening and effecting units at the lowest levels. NOT a general that spent the last 10 years shaking hands with contractors trying to land a board position at retirement.

[ashen edge]

I don’t think that he is a good candidate for the position he was a national guard supply sergeant that got out what on earth does a desk bound pencil pusher with only low leadership offer other than a yes man to insane ideas of attacking allies

[old portal]

He was literally an active duty infantry platoon leader in combat with the 101st…not sure what the hell you’re even talking about. Go do an enlistment then maybe your opinion on how the military actually works and functions might carry a little weight

Until then 🙄

[ashen edge]

I know you can do better than that man it’s public information

Just look it up

although i was wrong about his rank he got out at major before going into entertainment news

[old portal]

I did do better. Your public information is completely incorrect. You should try looking it up. This is him on deployment to Iraq as a platoon leader wearing 1st LT bars and a 101 combat patch screams NG supply sergeant. Thats why maybe after you do an enlistment you’ll have an inkling of knowledge to share. I wouldn’t call reddit a great source of public information since everything you called public information is factually incorrect.

[ashen edge]

Sorry that you don’t believe that a drunkard entertainment news host is not the most stellar choice for the secretary of defense

[old portal]

Come talk to me and tell me what it’s like in the military after your ETS date hero. Until then good luck did take care.

[ashen edge]

You too buddy, hang in there.

[coarse laurel]

You act as if people in the military especially officers aren’t alcoholics

[old portal]

It’s hard to actually know what it’s like in the military when your only experience is Reddit, airsoft larp and ARMA

[coarse laurel]

Also first sec def I’ve seen that did PT with the troops, most people in higher echelons won’t even do the bend and reach

[ashen edge]

Yah that whatever but a guy who’s known for coming to work drunk and entertainment news and who can’t keep top secret shit top secret builds zero confidence

Btw while a member of that chat was in a foreign nation who threatens to nuke us every couple of months

[coarse laurel]

I have experience in all

I’m what you call, well rounded

[old portal]

I have a little. Even in the alcohol department. I was a raging alcoholic every night after work my last cpl years in self medicating to deal with mental and physical injuries. But please let me be judged by someone that’s that’s never had those experiences

[ashen edge]

If you can give an example of another sec of Defence that drank at the podium sent classified strike plans in insecure chats while recipients where in nations considered hostile to us I can let it pass I suppose

[coarse laurel]

I can give you one who technically went AWOL and failed to notify the chain of command about a surgery while being sec def

Never said they were perfect

Also ultimately the timelines posted in the group chat doesn’t mean much. It fucking reads like my work chat lol

[ashen edge]

Ah yes detailing strike platforms, weapons, times and targets is a completely acceptable leak

if anyone else did this it would be bedlam but the last couple admins have been fuck up after fuck up and nobody cares

Everyone just goes “oh my guy did it so it’s ok everyone pipe down it’s old news” and moves on

it’s sloppy as fuck and will bite us

[old portal]

Bro this kids not worth any time for a discussion about this stuff. He has absolutely no clue what he’s even talking about but you’ll never convince him of that. Right out the gate he calls him a National Guard supply sergeant and tells me to do better research because it’s public knowledge when everything he said was factually incorrect. He probably doesn’t even know that the comms channel they were talking in was put in place by the previous administration and they just continued to use the platform. None of that matters tho because it doesn’t fit his narrative.

[coarse laurel]

He seems super invested lol

[old portal]

Not quite enough to actually experience tho. Just enough to present himself as an SME

[ashen edge]

Because our president threatens any nation he doesn’t like at the time and i like to have living friends and having a sieve for a DOD brings no confidence

[coarse laurel]

A lot has changed, now a lot of government related group chats goes through signal since it’s encrypted unlike WhatsApp compared to a decade ago

[old portal]

Oh ya I know that. I worked for the govt for almost 22 years. Don’t try to convince him that tho. He already knows how things work. He’s been there done that.

[ashen edge]

Except it’s been explained multiple times that it is not secure enough for classified information by our intelligence agencies

it’s good enough for small time shit like your info but it’s nowhere secure enough to have actual targets put there

Also the freedom of information act requires that written communications be recorded and signal “deletes” everything after a delay

But fuck transparency we love secret war chats

[empty sorrel]

anyone have recommendation for custom sewing/fabrication, need a custom helmet cover.

[rancid prairie]

Tried a thing and I low key think it's working

[vivid cove]

I don’t think people understand how bad physical and digital security is at the higher echelons of power lol

I think once you hit O5 or higher derivative classification and cyber awareness training is a suggestion

I can only imagine how bad it is for non military members of government unless you are a worker in an agency then maybe you actually have good security managers worth a damn

[grand mountain]

Alcoholism sucks

I stopped drinking like 2-3 years ago and I still want a drink now and then

[old portal]

I was killing an 18 pk every night for a long time. Couldn’t tell you kart time I had a drink now

[grand mountain]

Yeah I had a whiskey problem for a couple years

I started drinking at like 15 or 16 or something

[gleaming meadow]

any advice and insight you can give on someone considering either army or air force enlistment?

[snow scarab]

Get a bonus

[old portal]

I’m pushing my son toward AF. Much better quality of life with a lot of technical job opportunities. I’ve been out so long I’m sure the Army is not recognizable to me anymore and I only know a wartime period. Peacetime military service is completely foreign to me. Army was one of greatest choices I made overall but I’m still paying for it with permanent injuries and issues for the rest of my life

@coarse laurel and @storm peak are both currently still serving on active duty and could probably give much better insight about todays Army.

[coarse laurel]

Go Air Force definitely

[storm peak]

Nah brother

Big ol difference

You do not get to pick your job picking any branch but army

No other branch let's you pick

Air force doesn't offer shit for bonuses, army has the highest tuition assistance, more duty assignments, better skill bridge program, more in service school opportunities

Promotions are significantly faster in the army

[old portal]

I know I was always jealous of those guys when overseas. They typically did 4 month deployments and lived on massively large FOBs with lots of comforts and amenities. When we had AF personnel attached to us they got hardship pay for substandard living conditions even though we considered it luxury living lol. But like I said I only know wartime/deployment stuff. Everything else is foreign to me.

[storm peak]

It's the time ol tale of "go airforce because my time in the army sucked" when in reality it's always best to go in the biggest branch just due in nature of how vacancies greatly make your career

[old portal]

Promotion opportunities in the infantry and probably a lot of other MOS were super fast at the time but school opportunities were nearly non existent for big army unless you were on orders at non deployable units. I’m sure both have significantly changed since.

[lusty kestrel]

what injuries do you have

[old portal]

TBI with chronic migraine and short term memory issues

[lusty kestrel]

wowzers

[snow scarab]

Who are you again?

[old portal]

lol

[gleaming meadow]

i know of a Green Beret that transferred to AF to become a PJ. Is it just that easy to transfer?

[gleaming meadow]

Might sound like an odd question, but during your time were individuals recruited by the CIA/FBI for bigger assignments?
How could one pivot into that type of work straight from the military - I have a feeling it one would need background in Intel work.

[fathom mantle]

Navy does indeed let you pick actually

[old portal]

No, the way guys got into CIA type stuff was networking. For instance if you were with CAG you often worked closely with CIA assets and once you retired you typcally had an easy "in" with that network of contacts but they dont just come grab rando guys like on TV

[storm peak]

It's a wishlist based off of vacancies

Not a guarantee

[fathom mantle]

Nope. Navy for the longest time was the only branch where they were contractually obligated to give you the job you pick. You’ll get that job unless you fail A-school

[earnest drum]

Completely wrong. Your job is guaranteed in the Navy as long as you pass all appropriate schooling.

[grand mountain]

Yeah lol, I kinda doubt something like the CIA is desperate enough for manpower to yoink people off the street

[old portal]

Ya that’s some Hollywood stuff. CAG guys spend A LOT of time working directly with CIA assets so naturally they tend to gravitate to that line of work post military and often because they are well known within that small circle of CIA

[jagged reef]

Hey does anyone know if home depot (HDPE) buckets can be used for dying nylon gear?

I don't wanna ruin any nice kitchen stuff with clothing dye.

[worthy quest]

I have been gifted from an old friend a Molle Plate carrier with a bunch of things on it and if someone would want to dedicate time to tell me any proper care routines and or handeling instructions (As well as what some of these things are for) I would be incredibley gratful

[lusty kestrel]

idk but home depot is good for finding soldiers

[snow scarab]

Pretty much every branch has swapped to giving you your first pick

[real whale]

handling instructions??

[south breach]

If yk yk

[spiral elbow]

I don’t know. Enlighten me

[lusty kestrel]

i dont know either

[steady marsh]

Siiiick

[prisma dawn]

A little bundle from work today.

[gentle mauve]

Oo lithuania

Who are these guys, military police?

[lusty kestrel]

nice

do they shoot illegal people

[near iris]

Thermal connoisseurs of discord, tell me why I should not pick the AGM Taipan V2 15-384 as a budget monocular.

[prisma dawn]

Unfortunately we ain't Poland

[lusty kestrel]

Smh

[prisma dawn]

I'm in the Military, doing co-op work with VST force, Public Safety Service, tough to translate but it's the equivalent of SWAT, but not full on Police

It's like the national guard mixed with swat, idfk

[gentle mauve]

Huh interesting

Now turn into poland

[empty sorrel]

adding to the collection

[lone nacelle]

Sometimes you gotta wish that you were🥲

[gentle mauve]

Need help with IDing the plate carrier

[old portal]

My brothers SWAT kit is very similar carrier in ranger green. I’ll look at it and get back to you tomorrow

[gentle mauve]

Ight thanks

[strange lion]

[vivid cove]

Security clearance

Go intel and bag that TS/SCI

[old portal]

Really good advice. Get that TS if possible Secret means nothing. Complete and up to date TS looks good for future employers because it can be an expensive and long process and I had an interim TS when I was our recce PSG but they said they would only do the full TS process if I reenlisted lol. No thanks.

[vivid cove]

Lucky to even get offered it as a reenlistment bonus. That's a tough string to pull.

The company would have had to fund the investigation at that point

[old portal]

Wasn’t even part of reuup bonus. It was a job requirement. It was kinda like a carrot dangling. I was the acting recon platoon sergeant with interim TS and needed a full one but they wouldn’t approve it if I was planning to ETS lol

[vivid cove]

Fair enough

You used to get them when the US had unlimited budget for individual soldiers certs but not anymore

[old portal]

I completed a metric shit ton of paperwork for it but it never went anywhere lol

[vivid cove]

Yeah it takes a long time to process

You're in a big ass que for the sf86 to be reviewed

[old portal]

It’s been a long time but if i remember correctly they had to at least give me an interim TS for the SCIF access I was privy to

[vivid cove]

Yeah

[restive stratus]

does anyone in here ever just go on night hikes with their nvg

[vapid turtle]

Bulgarian?

[lusty kestrel]

the lithuanian flag on his arm:

[vapid turtle]

Oh sorry mb

[gentle mauve]

Ah, thank you

[rain thicket]

[plush topaz]

Looks Ali Express asf

[gentle mauve]

Sob

Fortunately, not mine

[vestal vigil]

Any tips for finding irl plate carrier same as troops from a certain country filled with wood plates

[gleaming meadow]

google snapshot or anything that can AI search the carrier and match it

[earnest grail]

good m'

[quasi wing]

Gators

[steep parcel]

Witness my strength

[lusty kestrel]

you look like that one guy from captain america

the swiss guy

also you look like a aliexpress add

like these photos do not look real

[snow scarab]

Just saw you on my Reddit home page lol

[steep parcel]

lol

[ancient sandal]

made an investment

[ancient sandal]

joyful and filled with glee and malice

[snow scarab]

What kind of investment? I’ll tell you if you’re stupid or not

[dense blaze]

mmm Bulgaria

[lusty kestrel]

what

[dense blaze]

nothing, i see Bulgaria, i like

im a simple man

[lusty kestrel]

thats lithuania

[prisma dawn]

ain't Bulgaria xd

[dense blaze]

oh i see, its just that on the pics u first sent the badge is very far away and the yellow looked like white on 2 pictures

i see i see mb

[ancient sandal]

Tons of Pouches, just a lot of plate carrier accessories

soft armor and plates comes soon

[low fox]

All I need is a baseball cap and a pair of black jeans

[plush topaz]

Awesome!

[midnight owl]

Got my first AR coming in boys, PSA w/ MOE furniture. IMO, though, the MOE grip looks like it won't be that comfortable to me. What do you guys run if not just A2 factory grips?

[snow scarab]

k2xl

[lime abyss]

Gaiters

I should get some

[marsh flint]

B5

[lime abyss]

Nice

[misty mesa]

Off to a milsim event, this is my ruck.

I hope to carry a entire house

[tepid ingot]

all that gear and a blank 74u. i respect the larp🔥

[dusk igloo]

I got an Italian Air Force helmet from the 80s

[lusty kestrel]

i can buy a polish steel pot for like 10 dollars

[empty sorrel]

Where's the kit?

[runic meadow]

That’s a oof my friend

[misty mesa]

Mae

Naw

[young stag]

Yall have any recommendations for affordable reloading equipment?

[loud wraith]

My Setup Sub $8,000 in equipment😬

[lusty kestrel]

Nobody gives a fuck

[obsidian moss]

Wont increase pp size

[random crow]

Anyone know what these panels go to?

[plucky sphinx]

Groin and butt plates maybe

[random crow]

Prob

[snow scarab]

Specs

[loud wraith]

9800X3D

[snow scarab]

nice

i'm just the gen before for both lol

4080 super and 7800x3d

[loud wraith]

We have the same raw performance basically so on this game both our GPUs are relatively identical. What I’ve noticed is my FPS drops when my GPU is 50-60% usage. So I maxed out all the graphics and 75-89% usage I get much better frames because my GPU is overclocking. Since the game is not optimized it’s weird how it works but works at the same time

[lusty kestrel]

8000????

for a 980x3d and a 5080?

you got ufcking scamed lmaoo

[loud wraith]

The whole setup, speakers headset keyboard mouse etc., I have PS5 Pro, Duel Sense Edges, that don’t account for the steam purchases or PlayStation purchases

[lusty kestrel]

cool

a ps5 pro si like 800

at best

[loud wraith]

Nah that was cheap actually

[lusty kestrel]

also wtf are dual sense edges

no fucking weya

rog keyboard 😭

why

[loud wraith]

Midnight black and white

[lusty kestrel]

whyy the fuck are these so expensive

anyways 8k is stil absudr

[loud wraith]

Honestly knew nothing about keyboards, saw $200 and swiped the card

This my first PC Gang

[lusty kestrel]

damn man if you have that much excess money buy me a 5700x3d

[loud wraith]

100% customizable buttons/sticks/triggers. can change the stick modules, comparable with PC with app or steam

[lusty kestrel]

ok cool

most controlers are compatible with pc

[loud wraith]

PlayStation has something so you can customize it without having to boot up a PlayStation, it has hardware presets with the function buttons that are also customizable to keybinds

If you want reload to be a FN button sticking off the controller you can bind it to that

(Left FN)=R

Etc.

[lusty kestrel]

ok cool

still that is not 8k

[broken horizon]

8k for that is crazy

[plucky sphinx]

Yeah no possible way that’s 8k

[timber fog]

It’s possible if you get scammed

$8k for that is bonkers tho

Prebuilt or not

[plucky sphinx]

It’s his whole “set up”

[timber fog]

I know, so sad

$8k just to end up with a ROG keyboard and JBL speakers smh my head

[ancient sandal]

those are sitting pads

back of belt / back of carrier to sit on so you don't have to sit on rubble / glass / mud

At least they look exactly like technikom brand sitting pads

[ancient sandal]

It won't let me react to this so "❤️"

[random crow]

They're Technikom brand. Got them from an Unclaimed mail store.

[random crow]

Yea, same here. So 👍

[ancient sandal]

Yeah they're probably sitting pads then if I'm not mistaken

[random crow]

Got yea. What exactly is Technikom btw? Russian Airsoft?

[ancient sandal]

Main producer of modern standard issue Russian military equipment

I.e this vest and its contents aside from the ATACs pouch (which is sso sposn)

[random crow]

Oh. Well looks like I'm set then.

I also got level 8 winter top/bot and the Ushanka hat

[ancient sandal]

4 of those pouches I can't ID but most of them appear to be standard issue technikom

2 pistol pouches 2 frag 1 mag and 2 canteen

[ancient sandal]

Nice, I'm going to buy my 8th layer jacket soon

[random crow]

I was at an unclaimed mail store and they had some Russian stuff come in. I thought it was Airsoft tbh

[ancient sandal]

Interesting

[random crow]

Lots of belts and wet weathers.

[ancient sandal]

A lot of those look like real BTK layers

so good haul

[vivid cove]

Anyone actually used the safariland headsets?

Im looking at some HP 2.0's

[past knoll]

who tf is gonna use a controller tho

[lusty kestrel]

idk

[snow scarab]

I use them for certain games. Most games ported to PC

[formal onyx]

NGL I've wanted to see more older US kit in tarkov for a bit

Retro gear is Peak

[carmine shale]

When mounted to the jarm these tuck away and dont rattle

[worthy heart]

Retro is peak

[lusty kestrel]

what is this

[formal onyx]

Agreed

[lusty kestrel]

wz93 peak camo

[lusty kestrel]

wz 89 wadaheck

goofy looking

[worthy heart]

That's not wz93

[lusty kestrel]

i know

[formal onyx]

It's M81 woodland

[lusty kestrel]

but just saying

[worthy heart]

You guys legit just copied our design

[lusty kestrel]

wz93?

[carmine shale]

Its just a hard cover that stows on board and out of the way

Super cheap

[lusty kestrel]

no the fucking sight bruh

[worthy heart]

No I'm talking about greek lizard camo

Yes I'm talking about wz93

[lusty kestrel]

wow didnt know such existed

[worthy heart]

The US is very influential on other countries designs

Because everyone feels the need to either copy our weapon designs or camos

[carmine shale]

Its a pvs14

[lusty kestrel]

wow thats expensive

[formal onyx]

I like this so far

[faint wing]

[restive stratus]

If you guys are shooting matches, what kind of pants do you like to wear? Preferably something with a nice amount of pockets and rigid enough my belt doesn’t sag with the weight of a holster

I honestly just need some good outdoor pants for this type of stuff

[storm onyx]

Any ideas what this would be used for or name of this bag?

[vivid cove]

5.11 is my go to

[lusty kestrel]

dumb monkey this isnt fucking facebook marketplace

go fucking sell your dogshit 2009 things there

[real thorn]

gork

[lusty kestrel]

where olive vest

[real thorn]

wdym

[lusty kestrel]

whys it black

[real thorn]

dark blue btw lmao

[lusty kestrel]

iit looks like its black

ngl

maybe cuz i kinda color blind

[real thorn]

nah I get it

[lusty kestrel]

like this is black no?

[real thorn]

debatable, but looks like dark blue to me

[lusty kestrel]

nah thatws like black

or dark grey

for me

[real thorn]

here's the thing on its own

[lusty kestrel]

nah thats like half gray half gray blue

lmao

[lusty kestrel]

what is this btw

[real thorn]

FORT defender 2 low profile

[lusty kestrel]

epic

isnt it suposed to be worn under

[real thorn]

works both ways

[lusty kestrel]

what kevlar thign is it

[real thorn]

don't got the actual plates for it

[lusty kestrel]

so basicaly airsoft

[real thorn]

no plates =/= airsoft

[lusty kestrel]

i thought u meant kevlar

or smth

[brave harness]

It looks like what you pack a tent in, but idk

[storm onyx]

I was thinking the same thing. Either tent or sleeping bag.

It fits a mossberg shockwave quite nicely 🤣

[empty sorrel]

I've seen them floating around. They're not that expensive unless you want the really high end ones.

Or is this the one that uses the rectangular plate and then the trapezoid plate separately?

[real thorn]

uses stanard plates on back and front, has an extra pouch for a trapezoid on the back

[empty sorrel]

I'm somebody of an armor aficionado

[real thorn]

maybe also on the front, haven't checked

[empty sorrel]

*somewhat

[real thorn]

relatable, at least when it comes to rigs

[empty sorrel]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/127036757434 @real thorn

[real thorn]

ru**ian 💀

also, EU-based :(

[empty sorrel]

Class br5

[empty sorrel]

I mean, that's a Russian plate carrier, right?

Fort?

[real thorn]

thats equivalent to GOST 4 or 5

[real thorn]

yeah, just the way the guy put it

[empty sorrel]

Or is it just a repro?

I assumed you'd want to put authentic plates in it.

The trapezoid ones are a lot harder to find though from what I've seen.

[real thorn]

no, its actual FORT

[real thorn]

yeah, once again, EU-based, will do if I manage to find some around here

[lusty kestrel]

no thats 6b23 i think

[copper perch]

Finally got my FROG woodland

I was looking for this for like 2 years

[vapid turtle]

Ain't that marpat?

[old portal]

Yes. Flame resistant

[empty sorrel]

You're going a struggle to find any EU-based plates in Russian sizes.

[empty sorrel]

I just settled for AOR1.

Easier to find, ironically.

[worthy heart]

Plate carrier is about ready for dying

[old portal]

I think I’m gonna set up an old LBE harness like I had pre Molle gear for this

[ashen edge]

Alice is pretty inexpensive if that is what you are thinking of

[old portal]

Ya. The 1967 ALICE gear was our issued gear my first 2 or 3 years in still until they started issuing MOLLE in 04 or 05. Gonna set it up same way but probably with 20 round pouches without the frag straps

[copper perch]

yes it is

FROG woodland marpat

[copper perch]

tho I found whole set in marpat with this combat shirt and pants for almost 200$

so very cheap

[empty sorrel]

In person or online

[copper perch]

online

I even sended photos to actual marine to check if that was real

[empty sorrel]

For me, the woodland marpat just isn't actually that good of a camo for my area.

[copper perch]

I am fan of marpat because it is easier to blend yourself in woods where I live there is a lot of dead leaves

[empty sorrel]

I do know they're pretty uncommon though, so that's a decent price.

[copper perch]

I seen like 500$ on ebay

[copper perch]

it is all matter of enviroment

[empty sorrel]

And season

[nimble tapir]

where im from MarPat blows multicam out of the water, very lucky i had a buddy give me some greens and some tans. but thats the most important what works where YOU are lol

[tiny meadow]

Boot captain with a clean shirt

[formal onyx]

I wanna to see more Woodland gear in tarkov tbh

We have the UCP interceptor, so a Woodland one would be nice

[vapid turtle]

Nice

[runic meadow]

Thank god bro

[worthy heart]

?

[runic meadow]

As in changing the color?

[worthy heart]

I'm going to be honest with you. ACU in Abu is not an awful camouflage at least if it was properly used

In Afghanistan in the mountainous regions it actually worked pretty decently

For a winter camouflage it actually works pretty decently

If you rolled around in the dirt, it just kind of made it a little better for other regions

[runic meadow]

Yea, mountain it works fine but not where I live so people dye it with green dye

[worthy heart]

Yep

[runic meadow]

It’s a cool camo besides that

[worthy heart]

Yessir

[runic meadow]

I run mostly Russian camo here so a lot of greens and browns

Flecktarn is the best by far (Pennsylvania btw)

[formal onyx]

Lol, clearly the best bag

Even got a (not so red) Rebel

[torn umbra]

black rebel

[runic meadow]

Shi don’t look red to me

[formal onyx]

Not red yet

Goober

[runic meadow]

I love when you talk dirty

[formal onyx]

IDK what to paint this key like yet

[copper perch]

Cool dangler. You made it by yoursled or bought it somewhere?

[blazing glacier]

I made it

Idk if im gonna sell it or give it to a creator, maybe charity raffle who knows

[lime abyss]

Cattito

[empty dawn]

Does that tactical animal come with the bags

[vernal tendon]

What's actually inside there?

[pastel rover]

It’s a prop but usually there’s a needle and some pills

This is what the Manuel looks like in a real one

[ashen edge]

The painkiller was some form of Tramadol from what I have seen online

[cursive sun]

It is new one, my family member have an allergy on cats, so he give it to me,

[cursive sun]

I remember when in 90's we can find this box in abandoned shelters, and pink anti rad pill cases contains "tarren" drug.

[formal onyx]

1. Syringe: Promedol (Pain killer) or Atropine (Nerve Agent antidote) 1 ML
2. Singular Red Vial next to syringe: 6 tablets of Taren (Phosphate poisoning medication) 0.8G
3. Large white vial: 15 tablets of Sulfamethoxine (Antibacterial medication) 0.2G
4. 2 Raspberry Vials: 6 tablets in each vial containing Cystamine (Reduces effects of radiation) 0.2G
5. 2 Clear vials: 5 tablets in each vial containing Chlortetracycline (Antibiotics) 0.1G
6. White vial: 10 tablets of potassium iodide (protects against radioactive iodine) 0.25G
7. Blue Vial: 5 tablets of Etaperazine (Prevents vomiting) 0.006G

[old portal]

wtf happened to this channel?

Days of 3D printed bullshit from video game…not irl gear 🤷‍♂️

[ancient sandal]

It's medical supplies

[lusty kestrel]

doesnt sound like gear to me

[old portal]

With the context of it being from a video game. Not in the context of it being anything of use irl. Outdated trash at best

[formal onyx]

Fine the red rebel is gone, but tbe AI-2 stays

[lusty kestrel]

yo

does a polish saber count as gear

[formal onyx]

Also, M-1967 gear isn't Alice gear btw @old portal

[ancient sandal]

It's still technically gear though

and not 3D printed from a video game

it's just outright old Soviet medical supplies

[old portal]

It’s a variation. I’m fully aware. I used ALICE gear for years….IRL

[formal onyx]

I've used Alice gear too

[old portal]

Loved it until we fully transitioned to MOLLE issue. Now I don’t wear armor and have no need for it ALICE would be my choice again

[formal onyx]

Not in combat mind you

I like the woodland LBV

I had the wrong belt there but I have the open faced black belt now

[old portal]

Probably early 04 shortly before molle and chest rigs were becoming a commercial thing we were taking the ALICE belt and making clip so it closed on the side of the body instead of center. Tightening up the harness straps to sit chest height and putting 4 of the triple mag pouches for n the front to create a chest rig. Worked pretty well. Shortly after that we started direct attaching the ALICE pouches to IBA snd securing it with 550 cord

[formal onyx]

Nice

Meanwhile

The predecessor to MOLLE

[rugged elbow]

I love my camo pants

I need the desert marpat pants so bad

I can't find them anywhere near me

[ancient sandal]

The voices in my head tell me I need this one day

[lime abyss]

Dude I need some late 80's and 90's gear

[formal onyx]

Good luck

[ashen edge]

In my journey to get some more weather specific equipment I got this (I think) goretex parka shell it’s decently water/rain resistant but it has a small separation of 2 panels on the right side of the nape that let in some moisture after ~25 minutes of standing in decently heavy rain (2nd image)

[snow scarab]

@worthy heart @calm stone

[worthy heart]

Your light switch is faded

[snow scarab]

I know, shut up lol

[worthy heart]

Also looks a little dirty

[worthy heart]

There's also paint smudges around the light

[hot drum]

Your light switch is also js really dirty

[snow scarab]

I rent, ain’t my problem

[ashen edge]

Based make them actually do their job

[lime abyss]

Gotta buy this man

[rancid prairie]

You're a log house

[spiral elbow]

Hey I think your light switch is faded

[low fox]

vononsuka

[tawny bane]

my new ars arma slick

[empty sorrel]

I've got the modern version in AOR.

[lime abyss]

Got my hands on something cool

An old orc industries M81 rain pcu

Complimented with some desert night

I think it's a sexy combo

[brisk zealot]

Anyone here heard anything about the French rayxagon nods?

[fading pawn]

Can anybody help me with finding the plates in Killa's vest? Looking to swap out eva foam ones for the real things in my cosplay.

[snow scarab]

They are Russian based so if you aren’t Russian it’s going to be extremely hard to find

[fading pawn]

😔

[ashen edge]

Even on eBay those plates by themselves are basically nonexistent, Facebook groups are about the best you got. I think I’ve seen a plated 6b13 once eBay for around $500

[lusty kestrel]

6b23 plates fit into 6b13 i think

no?

actualy nvm

[real thorn]

nope, they don't

[lusty kestrel]

what helmet is that on the left

the middle shlef

[hasty vapor]

Slovenian T91 helmet

[lusty kestrel]

cool

[hasty vapor]

ye all that i got is all original

7 years of my work

[lusty kestrel]

what the slovenia helmet stop

3a?

[hasty vapor]

ye NIJ III-A

.44 and 9mil and ofc

22lr haha

[lusty kestrel]

okey

[warped coyote]

whats the name of kollontays riot gear

[wooden shale]

Pussypad

[copper perch]

I love tax free in Japan

[cursive sun]

Nice bag

Swisseye raptor

[carmine shale]

How is the ambient audio on sordins vs comtacs

[snow scarab]

Kits all done

[lusty kestrel]

quick question how much did us pend on the plate carier

no plates

[snow scarab]

I’d have to do the math on it

I’ll get back to you

[lusty kestrel]

@snow scarab how much are u calculating

[snow scarab]

New and old pouches plus other accessories

I’m at work, if I can get it done before I get off I will

[lusty kestrel]

just tell me how much the plate carier costed

[snow scarab]

The plate carrier is a crye SPC

Go look it up, idk the cost

[lusty kestrel]

kinda cheap ngl

but like there is barely any material

[snow scarab]

It’s a medium

[ruby verge]

nice spc

[lusty kestrel]

dayz ass ak

[young field]

Its mouses ak from the raid series

[lusty kestrel]

oh ok

i just meant as in like

you got a short ass ak and big ass mag

[young field]

lol no

I just copied mouses cause bear tarkov larp

[empty sorrel]

Airsoft is one more channel down, man.

[real thorn]

lmao

[ancient sandal]

the camo on the 74U was so good I thought it was just muddy at first and had to zoom in

[young field]

The gear is real. The gun and mags arnt

Im not worried about it lol

[young field]

I rattlecanned it tan and then threw a burlap and put some flat black over

[empty sorrel]

So you've got some pouches and an empty plate carrier then

[young field]

Ill be doing it to the ar-15 and akm next once i get my hexagon furniture

[young field]

Plate carrier has 6 pound trainers in it cause larp event

And for the pouches they are also wartech aswell with the wartech tv-101

[empty sorrel]

And the helmet/earpro

And the g24

[young field]

ts defo fake. Im waiting till my ballistic from hhv gets here and my comtacs so i have to unfortunately use it for now

[empty sorrel]

Personally, I would have gone with anything other than HHV.

Unless they stopped selling Chinese shells.

[young field]

Same with the g24 mount honestly

I wanna get a pvs7? I think is what its called

I might be having a brain fart

I like the idea of the like single mon but for both eyes

Its mega expensive tho to do everything at once so im just focusing on the helmet then the mon/nods

[young field]

Yeah pvs7

[old portal]

PVS7 is absolutely horrible for depth perception when compared to single tube PVS14

[young field]

Good to know

One of the pvs14’s with over 2k fom etc with white phos cause im not a big green phos fan was like 4,100$

But for something im gonna be using for just afew times a year idk how much i wanna make or break the off side savings yk

[old portal]

I have time behind white phos but nothing compared to my 1000s of hours behind green tubes. Green was chosen as the standard tube color because it’s the easiest on the eye with respect to vision fatigue. Not sure how white would be for prolonged use because I’ve never had to run them from a turn to sundown for extended periods of time.

And I can’t give an image quality opinion of white v green 14s. I’ve only ever used green 14s and white in 31s so the image quality was overall superior

[young field]

I cant give my equal opinion with green and white pvs14 cause my friend in the navy bought a gen2+ 1,700 fom green phos pvs14 and that was ok but my other friend white phos gen3 2,300 fom pvs14 was just like seeing pretty much day time but not

But more money less money different quality so it would be wonky trying to justify that

I actually have a video of the white phos one let me find it

Littalay

[lusty kestrel]

whats the worst nvg yall had

[hexed current]

Is that yellow thing in the bottom left a GL??

[young field]

Ye

M302

[hexed current]

You have DD license?

Or you just get clay ones

[old portal]

It’s a knockoff HK M320 launcher

[young field]

Ye

I cant legally own one so it has to be knockoff unfortunately

I can always buy something like iwa’s launchers but with mine i can still use pyrotechnics and chalkrounds so

300$- instead of 800-1000$ and i still get to fire exploding bits

[worthy heart]

It's airshit

[hexed current]

Nah, don't think you can shoot training rounds with an airsoft launcher lol

[worthy heart]

In the states you don't need a license for a grenade launcher it's just a 200 dollar tax stamp and a form 4

[worthy heart]

They make ones that work similarly

It's a chalk tracer

It's not really a 40

Even then 37mm is super easy to get

[young field]

I can shoot chalks

shoot foams

Shoot smoke pyros

Shoot fused and impact pyros

[lusty kestrel]

ok but can u put gasoline in it i mean what

[young field]

Probably

[brisk zealot]

Anyone here tried NNVT tubes for their night vision?

[spiral elbow]

Yep

[brisk zealot]

How were they?

Was looking at getting those for beginner tubes

[lusty kestrel]

What's the cheapest nvg

That's usable

[spiral elbow]

Had a set of duals with NNVT-5 Tubes and they weren’t terrible. As long as you are using some good glass then they are decent for what they are.

Personally if I were still in that position and had to do it again I would just get a set of binos with Omni 7/8 tubes instead over the NNVT simply due to the fact of gen 3 over gen 2

[brisk zealot]

I can get a hold of these here in Sweden in white phos and gen 2+

https://shop.rayxagon.fr/produit/unvb-starter

[lusty kestrel]

how much ist hat

[spiral elbow]

Ah non US, so yeah NNVT and photonis are gonna be just about all you can get

If you think they are worth the money to you then get em

[spiral elbow]

This is a set of NNVT-5’s on a clear night with a good amount of ambient light

[lusty kestrel]

who gives a fuck about the stars

[spiral elbow]

Most sane people

[lusty kestrel]

nah

gays

[spiral elbow]

Yes. Here have some more

[lusty kestrel]

how much does this cost

[spiral elbow]

That set is about 10.5-11.5k new depending on who and where you get them from.

[lusty kestrel]

usd?

crazy

[spiral elbow]

Yep

[lusty kestrel]

wtf

thats crazy bro

[old portal]

One of the most relaxing things about Iraq. Lying on rooftops at night looking up at the stars. With or without NODs. See average of 20-30 shooting stars a night

[spiral elbow]

The one thing I hate living in town limits. The light pollution sucks. Went down to the nearest national dark spot near me a while ago and snagged a pic. Crazy when you can see everything with your naked eye

[empty sorrel]

The camera couldn't catch the sky properly, but my overnight flight over the Pacific really had some nice stars.

[spiral elbow]

The horizon shot is dope af at least

[boreal elk]

Yo those are hella dope

[formal onyx]

Got some more software for my radios

Last time one of these was programmed was February 28th of 2000 or 2009 supposedly

And it was reprogrammed 23 times

[plush topaz]

90% of my nods use is for stargazing

[lusty kestrel]

nice

cool

how much they cost

[plush topaz]

4 grand Canadian

[lusty kestrel]

guh

wtf

life if i could find some gen 1r ussian surplus

for 2 dollars

[lusty kestrel]

man wadafak

isnt there like barely any improvement over 2 nvg things over 1

[plush topaz]

One is a thermal. They're bridged.

[lusty kestrel]

damn

bro rich

[plush topaz]

No now I'm broke

[lusty kestrel]

real

should i buy a old steelpot

for no reason

its like 6 dollars

[plush topaz]

Yes

[lusty kestrel]

ok maybe i will

[lusty kestrel]

do you wana see some mysterious steel platest

that stop ''7.62x39 fmj''

or Ps i dont remember

[plush topaz]

Also Binos have excellent periphery and depth perception over monlcular

[lusty kestrel]

https://allegro.pl/oferta/plyta-pancerna-kuloodporna-armox-3-5mm-iii-kl-sapi-17296399615?utm_medium=product-carousel&utm_campaign=product-listing&utm_content=%2Flisting%3Fstring%3Dp%25C5%2582yta%2520stalowa%2520kuloodporna

mystery meta

metal

[plush topaz]

[lusty kestrel]

theres a few good reviews and then theres this

''plates dont even come close to nij 3''

\

@plush topaz what do u think

[plush topaz]

Reckon you steer clear

[lusty kestrel]

lol maybe

i had decent hopes for it tho

acutaly nvm

[lusty kestrel]

i just want some ok light steel plates

well not realy light

idk

fuck

[spiral elbow]

Why steel

[lusty kestrel]

cheap

lol

well doesnt need to be steel just cheap ig

[formal onyx]

RMA makes good plates

[lusty kestrel]

link?

mayhaps idk

[formal onyx]

https://rmadefense.com/store/body-armor/level-iv-body-armor/level-iv-body-armor-plate-model-1155/

[lusty kestrel]

i thought u meant stee

steel

[real thorn]

looks like steel

avoid

[lusty kestrel]

im in poland lol not usa

[lusty kestrel]

whtys steel this bad bro

acording to you

@real thorn

[worthy anchor]

Steel armor is bad because of spalling. Basically fragments of bullet and steel coming off the plates that can cause injury

[real thorn]

that

and weight

[worthy anchor]

“Anti spall” “anti frag” coatings are bullshit

[lusty kestrel]

doesnt most shit have some kevlar behind it so it doesnt do much anyway?

[worthy anchor]

Weight is secondary to the issue of your own armor killing you though 😂

[worthy anchor]

Your throat and face sit directly over the plate. All it takes is one fragment to go through your carotid artery and you’re toast

[lusty kestrel]

where is the carotid im not good with body parts in english

[real thorn]

each side of the neck

[worthy anchor]

It’s the big blood vessels in each side of your throat

[real thorn]

the thing you check the pulse on

[lusty kestrel]

oh ok

[real thorn]

just use bloody ceramic plates, we're in the 21st century

and I doubt that you even need plates in the first place my guy

[worthy anchor]

I’ve been hit in the chest with spall from a steel target that someone shot about 10m from me. It stuck about 2cm in and had to be cut out at the hospital

[real thorn]

damn

[worthy anchor]

Spall is no joke

[real thorn]

I mean, its common logic that you don't want steel flying at ya lmao

[worthy anchor]

I’m really interested in seeing what can be done with polymer plates

[lusty kestrel]

damn

[real thorn]

yeah those could be interesting

[lusty kestrel]

anyway

should i buy a steel pot helmet for like 50 zloty

[formal onyx]

Ceramics will be better

[lusty kestrel]

obv

but expensive aswell

[formal onyx]

Worth the cost

[real thorn]

^

[formal onyx]

I'm poor but I saved up to get at least a front plate

[real thorn]

yeah, it fully eliminates a risk

[formal onyx]

I'd like to get a second plate soon

So I'm not going all Gothic serpent

[lusty kestrel]

eggsplain

[formal onyx]

Rangers in Mogadishu only had front plate pockets on their vests

[real thorn]

plates were shared between soldiers at the beginning of the GWOT / war in iraq

[real thorn]

and that

[lusty kestrel]

oh

why that name tho

[formal onyx]

The first Gen Ranger Body armor had its flaws, a dude got shot in the back and they added a back plate after the Blackhawk Down incident

[formal onyx]

It was the name they gave the operation

[lusty kestrel]

oh

[real thorn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gothic_Serpent

[formal onyx]

Operation gothic serpent, Mogadishu, 1993

AKA "Blackhawk Down"

[real thorn]

DCU my beloved

[formal onyx]

I have an original DCU top that's correct for Mogadishu

Old school Elvis collar

[lusty kestrel]

anyway should i buy a steel pot helmet

[formal onyx]

For what purpose?

[lusty kestrel]

idk

why not

[formal onyx]

I just wanna know if you actually plan on using it is all

[lusty kestrel]

prolly ont lol

not

[formal onyx]

Depends on the price then

[lusty kestrel]

like 12 dolars

[formal onyx]

Oh dang

I mean for $12 why not

[lusty kestrel]

the military used them up until like the 70s or 80s i think

idk not sure

shit was weird

[formal onyx]

The U.S army used them till the 80's

They got slowly replaced by the PASGT helmet

82nd Airborne was the first unit to get the helmets

[lusty kestrel]

cool

police and riot police here used them up until like 90s to beat civilians of course

guess what ocuntry

[ashen edge]

Beating the piss out of civilians who didn’t like their governments actions was kinda in during The 80s

Prolly gonna make a come back too

[lusty kestrel]

this was very uh promiment in the yknow

warsaw pact countries

yknow why

[ashen edge]

it was a worldwide fad tbh the west is just good at pretending it didn’t happen and when they can’t they make all the pictures black and white so the kids think they happened a lot longer ago than they did

[lusty kestrel]

oh yeah except here they hapened preety much every few months

late 80s ish

[ashen edge]

it was the east near the end of the Soviet Union it was big old murder and beating fest

90s didn’t change much

[lusty kestrel]

eh

here they did a bit

[lusty kestrel]

poland of course

nothing beter then 10 milion people protesting

[ashen edge]

I think we are going for round 2 in the US parts of our government are suddenly unsure as to wether they are bound by our founding documents now that it conflicts with their agenda

[lusty kestrel]

lol

i thought yall guns was the reason to no t do dis

[ashen edge]

it’s not about firepower it’s about information and networks we are suffering from an influx of rich people giving gifts to officials and our current admin runs on industry deregulation as a selling point

[lusty kestrel]

then idk stop him or smht

[ashen edge]

Guy missed the first time XD, and I don’t think somebody will get another chance but either way it’s not the man that’s the problem it’s the movement his campaign planners run an Christian nation idea despite that being completely counter to the founding principles of our nation

[lusty kestrel]

''christian nation idea''
deports people n shit and greed n stuff

100% christian

[ashen edge]

Specifically dogmatic Evangelism and the Christian nationalist movement kinda chucked their book out the window American mega churches are a prime example of this

[old portal]

We still had the PASGT up until around 04/05 when they transitioned us to the MICH