irl-gear

[plush topaz]

That is an m4a1 lol

Not professional.

But I've seen a few idiots with stuff like that.

[lime abyss]

Yeah I was up till 3am running off 3 hours of sleep was not functioning properly lmao

[plush topaz]

This is hilarious!

[storm peak]

Stay away from usarec

I tried telling izu the same thing but he ain't listen

[old portal]

Ya stupid shit like this just kinda erodes away at any legitimacy or good standing at already controversial operations. IMO it potentially does more harm than good for the overall objective in exchange for one individual’s entertainment

[lime abyss]

I agree

[lime abyss]

Ahh okay

My apologies

[plush topaz]

Nothing to apologize for lol. I just hold myself to a higher standard

[storm peak]

You learn regs, mainly 601-210 for first 3 weeks, then last month is literally how to do phone calls, initial army interview, and social media prospecting. You'll spend a week at some random place for your live fire. I've heard of people going to Miami, Hawaii, and the what not. I went to nash for my live fire because uncle Sam was broke because of the surge

[snow scarab]

how so?

they are just wearing their cold weather stuff

[lime stag]

oh trust me, I know

[lime stag]

make your bed, operator.

well man, when the going gets tough you can call me 6 times a day and ill give seperate names and addresses so you can meet your quota

[old portal]

Marines, you’re lucky they’re not eating the yellow snow

[marsh flint]

Hehe

[plush topaz]

Airsoft is the next channel down

[storm peak]

The r series m4 jump flap just arrived and I don't know if I like it more than my spiritus mk4

[grand mountain]

you fucking beat me to it

[lime abyss]

Airsoft is down the hall and to the left

[lime abyss]

Wow this guy is cag

[storm peak]

nah im not anything important, i just like having comfy kit that looks cool

looking cool is half the battle

[lime abyss]

I just get something that holds magazines

I have a JPC 2.0

That's about it

And a belt but I use my shitty 30$ chest rig more lmao

[storm peak]

i got sold on crye when i was issued an avs, this is my first jpc type plate carrier

[lime abyss]

I'm getting a load bearing belt of sorts sooner or later

[lime abyss]

Sweet

What did you do to get issued an avs?

[storm peak]

not really sure if i really like the jpc series, but money was already spent trying it out

[storm peak]

last unit issued me spear issue

[lime abyss]

Oh sweet

What unit? In what branch

[storm peak]

ill dm

[lime abyss]

k

[plush topaz]

[grand mountain]

im cag's numba wan pipe hitta actually

[grand mountain]

i hate you sometimes lmao

hey didn't you say you were getting new ink? That happened yet?

Or was it ragged?

[storm peak]

cag's number 1 bottom

[old portal]

Damn you and your comfy kit

[storm peak]

tbh, i see why people like the jpc stuff, it isnt as comfy as the iotv

i dont like when i can feel the plate

but i hate bulk more

[old portal]

IOTV was at the end of my time and I never had one. Very limited supply. All my time was IBA

[storm peak]

iba is more comfy than this with the neck pad

[old portal]

My first IBA was as first gen woodland with the 1/4 front molle only

[storm peak]

old man alert

iba was comfy though

[old portal]

My first issued kit with it was ALICE LCE lol

[storm peak]

lce has unmatched aura vibes

and it made sense, im still a very big fan of the taps systems

[old portal]

It wasn’t horrible. We deployed with Tactical Tailor plate carriers made last trip in Recce platoon

I loved ALICE. Still gave medium Alice ruck/frame in garage

[storm peak]

to be honest i dont like alice's frame

the lower back support on it was ass once the pad wore down

the army did a good job with the molle 2k and 4k

[old portal]

I liked it better than that shitty molle pack. No matter how you packed it it humped like shit

[storm peak]

you must of been packing it wrong lol

weight goes to the top

[old portal]

It just never felt good. Only thing I liked was the big spot in rear fit sleep gear

[storm peak]

the problem with this new kit is cable management is impossible

[old portal]

Just always felt like you couldn’t get the ruck tight enough to frame

[storm peak]

that do be true for the molle 2k

will always have some slack from the bag to the frame

they fixed that issue with the new molle 4k/airborne ruck

[old portal]

That was definitely the issue. The ruck seemed like it wanted to bounce all over the frame

[storm peak]

i am biased for the 2k though, i got alot of miles with mine

perfectly broken in, even got it used from cif back in 2016

[old portal]

Still have my cif issued woobie from 02 lol

All camo pattern faded off. Looks like Vietnam OD green now

[storm peak]

thats sick im not gna lie

ill buy it from you if you dont want it anymore

[grand mountain]

false ask my gf

[grand mountain]

if you have trauma pads or anything behind the plate you probably wouldn't be able to

but idk for sure cause ive only ever rawdogged the plates lol

[storm peak]

i just gotta get use to not having the padding from the avs and iotv

[old portal]

Never. Thing will be buried with me

I use it every night on couch to watch tv

[snow scarab]

what’s even different about it minus no molle and some velcro?

[storm peak]

no front accessory pouch to put another mag sleeve in, gna have to adjust my belt to add move my gerber. less slots to route cables through, too much velcro

[snow scarab]

so it’s just worse?

[storm peak]

it feels super nice

its only for m4 mags as well - no new army rifle with this flap

cant adjust it

[snow scarab]

it looks confusing

i’m ngl

[storm peak]

the r series as a whole is super confusing

[old portal]

@storm peak

Still some faint black pattern

[storm peak]

bro 💀

she needs to be put down

buried and burned like a viking pyre

[old portal]

It’s lost some of its woobie magic for sure

[sterile bough]

Wrong place for selfies

[old portal]

lol. I post a 23 year old issued poncho liner followed by rando selfie

[grand mountain]

imma come steal your woobie

[old portal]

I don’t think you have the firearms or tactics to accomplish this task

[grand mountain]

what if i ask nicely

[old portal]

Will realistically probably be buried in this lol

Just wrap me up and roll me in my fighting hole

[plush topaz]

Gib woobie

[grand mountain]

gonna TP your house until you surrender the woobie

thats a high level strategic asset right there

[lime abyss]

I love woobies

[river juniper]

those who know

[queen dock]

I feel like only a small amount of people would know what this is about.

[plush topaz]

My guess is. Nobody

[flint finch]

Yo how did you manage to make it so that we can count the pixels

[marsh rock]

Red rebel

[brisk zenith]

oh didnt see thanks

[ancient grail]

Guhhh

[neon crow]

fucka u kong
It's new L3 M914A posting time.

[grand walrus]

loot irl

[twin creek]

Free car

[prisma lintel]

What do you guys think of meshtastic radio along with ATAK?

[storm peak]

niche overall

unless you got alot of buddys camping out in the woods it aint worth its salt in setup headache if you want that to be your main comms

fun thing to learn, especially if you have a TAK account

[prisma lintel]

I think meshtastic by itself would be worth it for just comms that are near impossible to intercept

And atak just as a continuation of it. As long as you have the devices and the software on a drive then it should be easy to set up for other devices on the fly.

And by easy I mean maybe an hour or two.

[old portal]

The real question is who’s trying to intercept your comms? Is it worth the time money and effort?

[vivid cove]

I've resorted to hatchet running

A mf down on his roubles 😔

[grand mountain]

this was fake

it was a random pic someone photoshopped the SK broadcast stuff over

[vivid cove]

Reminds me of my first JRTC when I got to my unit

Everyone was tearing down tents and moving their shit in the dark and I just seen a ground loot mk19

Needless to say I my leadership was not happy

It was not being watched at all when I found it lmao

[prisma lintel]

In a shit hit the fan scenario, government.

Military.

Such as Ukraine. If you use a radio, then Russia knows where you are and generally shells the area. So you use this meshtastic shit and they can't detect it

Since it's on the same band as a cell phone and it uses less power than a cellphone too, it is very well disguised

Not only that, it's also useful for when power is down in an area. Such as a hurricane or tornado.

You can use this device as a means of communication when cell phone towers are down

[vivid cove]

You can get kinda get around that depending on the comms you have

[prisma lintel]

Not particularly well. They don't give a fuck what you're sending, they just know where you are.

[vivid cove]

If you have satcom you can use a scuffed foil wrap around your antenna to direct radio traffic directly upwards

Also can use the same method with relays

[prisma lintel]

Sounds janky at best

[vivid cove]

Basically an emitter that is shielded 3/4ths the way and relays the info in a directed path

But that's not really achievable for civilian applications

[prisma lintel]

With meshtastic you can also use atak which is immensely helpful for organization

Since meshtastic has a GPS in it. You can create a live feed of your position to other members who are also using meshtastic/atak

[vivid cove]

Never seen meshtastic

Will have to look into it

[neon crow]

it should have been me...
Then I wouldn't have had to have just spent 3.5k on these.

[old portal]

So no one

[real whale]

Mesh is only good with a substantial amount of prep in advance though, that's the biggest catch. Plus it's only over text. There's a time and place for most forms of comms

It's also not like the Russians triangulate and zero out every uhf/vhf signal they catch wind of. That would be a hell of an easy way to bait out arty and then neutralize them with counter battery fire

[prisma lintel]

I mean that's what's happening so idk what you're getting at here. @real whale

And yes, most "prepping" is typically prepping before a disaster.

Not during lmao

[real whale]

Sorry but prepping is meaningless when you have nobody to talk to

[prisma lintel]

@real whale some of us have friends and wives we would like to talk to during disasters lmfao

Quit projecting

[real whale]

And be honest here. How many of your friends and wives actually use meshtastic as a regular means of communication?

Again, I'm not dissing meshtastic here, great idea, interesting system. The problem is that for a country like Ukraine, you can't just mobilize a few hundred thousand guys and start handing out open source electronics and expect them to pick up on running all their comms through it over night.

That's why IM apps like telegram gets so heavily used in Ukraine by both sides. Meshtastic and the advantages it offers in lsco is mostly meaningless when cell networks and end to end encryption exists

You don't own the cell tower, you don't own the network, sure. But how powerful are the nodes you setup and how much coverage do you actually have with them?

[prisma lintel]

It's line of sight communication. The current record is 200 miles, but you're typically looking at less than a mile for realistic comms.

Cell phones can be jammed easily, same with sat phones. Not only that, but traced and located.

If power goes down in an area, then there goes your cell phone too.

So id like to be able to have comms regardless if power is around or not

Saying it's not worth it is pretty close minded.

[real whale]

Line of sight ranges are usually meaningless as a metric for practical comm ranges. By those metrics, you could talk to the ISS with a handheld and the right antenna setup. Nobody lives in or is talking about your shtf fantasy world and people are fighting an actual war in Ukraine. Nobody said anything about worth or not worth it, I explicitly said there's a time and place and a lsco setting is not the time or place for what are mostly still open sourced hobbyist toys. Just because you can get it to work in theory doesn't mean it's effective.

So again, shitty range, still vulnerable to jamming, transmission sources still can be triangulated, still requires power and maintenance. It has most of the vulnerabilities of a cell phone with the extra steps of you or someone else having to dedicate energy and resource to maintaining a system where more efficient alternatives exists.

[storm peak]

whatcha mean by near impossible to intercept

i think you need to research rf theory and how signals modulate overall

before you make the assumption that decentralized mesh networking has small risk of intercept

which quite conversely, its the opposite

[real whale]

That's very funny of you to suggest that the average chronically online person knows how to read

[storm peak]

ive done quite alot of "what is my rf signature" analysis for alot of teams and i will directly tell you that mesh network has you glowing like a red glowstick on any spectrum analyzer

the intent behind a mesh style network it so you can communicate with a large number of devices without having singular conduit/medium to act as medium for all the devices to connect to

and how its done is by using each connected authorized device to act as the medium for one another

what that means is that you send one message to the chat, and that message is therefore repeated and sent to every device on that network until the ack message is sent back from the intended recipient. each connect device acts as a repeater on the same set frequency. you literally see on a spec A a giant red blob when that network gets activated

to take it even a step further, even the extremely expensive trellisware radios that the military uses has the same fundamental issue of having a giant rf signature. unironically i discovered this issue for my team during a deployment validation exercise

meshtastic is cool, very cool concept, very fun to learn. do you want it as a "shtf" setup - no. is it a fun hobby with the bros - yes
i would suggest keeping any sort of low power $55 mesh tools as the E in your communication PACE plan

@prisma lintel

[old portal]

Haven’t heard PACE in a long time lol

[prisma lintel]

@storm peak give me 5 reasons why I shouldn't spend 200 dollars on emergency comms?

I have ham. I have hand held radio. I have plate carrier. I have food and water for a month, I have ammo

I have fire arms. I have night vision for fucks sakes.

Give me 5 good reasons not to invest in decentralized communications for my own town.

Shit I even made my own faraday cage for solar flare

I also find it funny that you're saying it's a bad comms device because it's limited, but the whole point is it's suppose to be limited so it's not detectable

Like the band is the same as a cellphone but has less power than a cellphone

[storm peak]

i think you missed the whole case i was trying to tell you about the detectability of mesh networks

i can tell you as an authoritive source on this subject, its not what you think it is

[prisma lintel]

So you think it's not worth it in a hurricane or whatever scenario?

Lmfao

[storm peak]

i think youd be much better off getting your ham technicion license and legally using hf radio

your whole case in point of mesh being on the same frequency as 2g GSM networks is extremely disingenuous

[prisma lintel]

I have one, but again, that's some that generally requires power

[storm peak]

as your mesh will be programed to the public domain freq given that is free to use for everybody

[prisma lintel]

You can keep it private

[storm peak]

how so

[prisma lintel]

It's in the app lol

You can receive data but choose not to repeat it

[storm peak]

how is it private

so choosing not to be a repeater is making it private?

[prisma lintel]

Absolutely. If I am only receiving data, how could it possibly be trscked

Unless I am actively sending a signal

Like a hand held radio does

[storm peak]

words means thing, deciding not to be a repeater is not the same as not transmitting

[prisma lintel]

And since it's such low power, typically it's not picked up and generally is disguised as regular cellphones are more powerful

That's why it's hidden

[storm peak]

no no this is a wrong statement

rf modulation is wayho different between radios and cellular devices

[prisma lintel]

Yes you can be picked up, but only if law enforcement or whatever is actively looking for meshtastic and even then, it's such low power, it is typically gone before to long

As in it doesn't have range.

Gtg.

[storm peak]

anybody with a spec a or hell even a $20 sdr with chopped up tape measure shaped can intercept that...

[storm peak]

have you done a network anaylsis of your area

do you know what the avg db of the noise floor is at times of day

do you even know how GSM networks work, specifically talking a-link, since youre stuck on believing that youll obfuscate your communications by operating on 850mhz

do you know what the bandwidth that your mesh device would be operating on

im by no means trying to gatekeep anything comms related, but your understanding of how any of this works is fundamentally wrong

in fact youll just be better off buying the cheap motorola camp radios from walmart

[storm peak]

you mentioned low power, do you know what the wattage your mesh is pushing?

actually now that i think of it, t-mobile - the last cell carrier to operate 2g towers here in the states, has been phasing out 2g entirely since i think 2020?

US 2G towers operate on 850 and 1900mhz

[storm peak]

actually time out, serious blowing the whistle on this, if you already have a ham license, why dont you know literally any of this

[prisma lintel]

Because low power means it doesn't have range.... @storm peak

And since it's not constantly broadcasting like a hand held radio then it means it isn't easily seen, and since it has a lower power than a cellphone, it would be hidden because there are many cellphones around constantly broadcasting

How does this not make sense?

It's a 915hz which means, trees, building and other obstacles would greatly reduce the range.

Which would be difficult to pick up unless law enforcement specifically was looking

[prisma lintel]

.5 watts

I find it funny you are saying I'm wrong and you don't know what I'm talking

About

[old portal]

Professional v. Larper. This is turning out better than Tyson v. Paul

[compact dagger]

This is the type of talk I missed for ~2 months while I was gone

Happy to see that OEFT's IRL Gear and weapons chats have stayed the same

[real whale]

Did it seriously take you a full hour to google that?

[prisma lintel]

People work

I can't be on my phone 24/7 at work homie

Lmfao

[real whale]

Man this is awkward. Your own arguments aren't even internally consistent with itself. So meshtastic good because signals are easily blocked. Have you never heard of directional antennas and repeaters before? Hard to pick up unless people are looking for it, yeah, if troops all started using it, would people not be looking for it specifically? What point are you even trying to make?

[prisma lintel]

The meshtastic uses the nodes as repeaters.

It only sends packets that aren't constantly being sent. Only a text.

It has low power so other people won't pick up on it

Since it repeats it it can go long range as well, depending on how many nodes you have

You wouldn't use ham and this meshtastic stuff for the same thing. Different use case.

That's like saying a plate carrier is stupid to get because it's not good for hunting

Like, obviously it's not good for hunting, that's not what it's for

Anyway, obviously you are against this mesh stuff for some reason, despite it being extremely cheap to get into.

And have a specific use scenario with my friends and family.

I'm pretty sure you just don't want to be wrong. Lmfao.

[real whale]

No, your suggestion was that it should be used in war zones because Russian arty shoots at everything that transmits and mesh somehow magically gets around that. Two false premises and a horrible take later, here we are.

[prisma lintel]

Yes because it's low power, it's not picked up by Russian surveillance 200km away

[real whale]

Are you even reading what you're typing? Mesh is good because short range, but it's also good because you can transmit over long ranges with repeaters. Yeah, no shit, sherlock. Does that not have the same problem as any other radio?

[prisma lintel]

Yes it's an issue with hand held and ham radios

Because they are high power at 2watts or more likely more.

And you're constantly transmitting on a push to talk. Not a data package like a half sentence text

[real whale]

Yeah, cause your baofeng can easily beam a 5w signal 200 clicks out over terrain. What are you even saying?

[prisma lintel]

Less data, less power, less range means stealthier

Why is it that military uses it if radios are just as good

Why do law enforcement use it

Why does Ukraine use it

Why does special forces use it

Why doe all these people use it if a radio is just as good

Infact it was military only for a long time

[real whale]

Well... The "special" forces definitely would use toys as their primary comms

[prisma lintel]

It's only in recent years this atak tech is civilian use

Because it's shitty tech right?

That's why they hide it?

Lmfao. You're ridiculous

[real whale]

Worried about government tracking. Uses literal government software published for civilian use.

[prisma lintel]

"every government agency uses this because it's shitty tech"

• u

Lmfao.

[prisma lintel]

You mean like a publicly broadcasted radio that goes hundreds of kilometers vs decentralized radio that goes 1 kilometer max?

You're right. The public radio is much more stealthy, what was I thinking? You're right. I'm wrong. You're so smart too. @real whale

[old portal]

@storm peak When the larper tells the SF B team guy how it works in SF…love to see it

[coarse laurel]

@old portal @storm peak idk why people here love to argue with actual SME’s

[prisma lintel]

Anyone can claim to be SF

Tell me why mesh isn't good compared to a ham held radio. considering this "SF" guy was asking me questions about it on one hand then saying it's shitty when he's asking about it. Lmfao.

He obviously have no idea what he's talking about if he's asking about it

[old portal]

🤦‍♂️ if that’s how you read how that conversation went

[prisma lintel]

"what's the power on it, btw it's shit"

Lmfao

How can you say something doesn't or won't work and on the other hand be asking questions about it

I think the only "SF" people here are "special" forces. Lmfao

[old portal]

It’s because guys like this live in a fantasy world in their head. Spends money on crap and talks about needing secure comms to stay off the grid so the government can’t track or locate. Pure fantasy.

Hey but he has a plate carrier firearms a couple handheld radios and NODs He’s definitely a SME now lol

[prisma lintel]

@old portal I'm not the one claiming to be special forces.

I'm the one claiming a meshtastic is more secure than a public ham

Tell me I'm wrong and you're laughable

[coarse laurel]

He isn’t SF but he is SF adjacent, he is an SOT, if you don’t know what that is they handle signal intelligence and electronic warfare stuff

Basically he works with SF and that kind of shit is his bread and butter

[old portal]

Exactly why he’s a B team guy…

[coarse laurel]

^ yup

[prisma lintel]

Tell me I'm wrong then

Tell me ham is more secure than meshtastic or similar devices

Fucking say it

[old portal]

Maybe if I’m a good boy this guy can teach me how to operate under NODs in a combat environment

[prisma lintel]

I can't help but notice you wont

Pretty funny

Speaks volumes.

Don't let your pride get in the way

Tell me I'm right.

[neon crow]

Oh boy drama

[old portal]

At the end of the day you have zero need for secure comms. No one’s trying to “get” you. You are the least of anyone’s worries even with your high speed plate carrier helmet and NODs. You play dress up. Tell me I’m wrong

[neon crow]

Be a man. Spend 3k on a RF-7850M.

[prisma lintel]

I will. Ham is less secure than meshtastic devices.

You are wrong.

[old portal]

Never seen that. Ran a Harris PRC 152 my last Iraq trip in 09. They were just starting to replace the Thales PRC 148s I was running previously at the time

[coarse laurel]

We still give the ranger students here 148’s

[old portal]

The brick

[coarse laurel]

Since it’s old and they will break it

[neon crow]

It's a dope radio with ALOT of features and as rock solid secure as you can get on the open market.
It's in the same Falcon line as the PRC-152, but this is a export version which can be legally owned. Really advanced little (big) radio it's dope as fuck.

Well. Secure if you get a unit with the right software. You either get a brick with Citadel 256 and AES 256 or you get a brick with none.

[old portal]

That thing would have been an excellent impact weapon as needed

[neon crow]

REAL.

Got a buddy who'd sell me two. But they're OLD fucks. Only DES for non NSA type 1, pretty worthless to me.

148/PRC-6809 CLEAR have a soft spot in my heart.

[real whale]

it's the average day when someone from the tarkov side of the server wonders into the irl channels

[prisma lintel]

still over here asking you all to tell me meshtastic is less secure than a public ham radio

Nobody is doing it

I wonder why hahaha

[old portal]

Literally no one is saying it’s less secure. Everyone is saying it’s not as simple as you think it is but at the end of the day once again you have no need for it. You’re not important enough to need secure comms. You could go sit on a mountain top with a spotlight and waving VS17 panel. No one would care. Do what you want but don’t expect anyone here to play along with your fantasy.

[neon crow]

I like MANET systems for data packages. But everything has it's flaws.

Big reason I want the 7850M is since it has Quicklook 3. Properly encrypted ECCM freq hopping radios have more of a place in my eyes if you want to be secure and hard to track.

[old portal]

And let’s be real. That’s only needed if you’re fighting a near peer enemy

Not really a necessity if a storm knocks out power

[real whale]

what's a civilian's near peer adversary? your local crack addict?

[old portal]

The guy breaking into your unlocked car in your driveway while you upstairs asleep lol

[real whale]

but you're forgetting, in canada, you're suppose to leave the car near the door for those guys

they're not breaking anything, just driving off

[old portal]

Is that where they suggested leaving car keys near the door so the intruder has no need to enter into the domicile any further?

[real whale]

yes

https://globalnews.ca/news/10359055/leave-car-keys-the-front-door-to-avoid-home-invasion-toronto-police/

[old portal]

🤦‍♂️

[real whale]

cop from toronto

[storm peak]

Ima keep a buck with you homie

You're misintrepting everything that we all have said

Atak is an android phone application, mesh networking is radio

Do you have a tak account?

[prisma lintel]

Yes. There is a plug-in on the atak program for meshtastic

[storm peak]

Like an official tak.gov account

[prisma lintel]

Nope. I'm a civilian.

[storm peak]

You can't even get the software to program both your atak app and meshtastic with server apks

I'm not trying to be rude with this, I want you to get into the hobby

Atak is awesome, I love it to death

I run it

[prisma lintel]

Well when I get my radios.

And set it ip

I'll post here. Deal?

If not then you all were right.

[storm peak]

You still need the server files to setup your mesh

[prisma lintel]

Hold on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvOBl53EcOI

[storm peak]

I have all the 5.0.0 tak software on a Google drive for people to take as I have a socom tak account

[prisma lintel]

Feel free to watch.

[storm peak]

Please study on how rf modulates

[prisma lintel]

Watch it. Tell me what's wrong in that video. Explain to me

[storm peak]

Let me drive home first habibi, I just got out of the office

[prisma lintel]

I gotta work anyway. Be back soon

[storm peak]

Military radios are mainly quater watt btw

If you're rocking 3 watt on a handheld you're going to blow your radio

[snow scarab]

@storm peak did this guy just try recommending you watch a video on how to set up atak?

that’s hilarious

[old portal]

He’s a warfighting SME. He’s teaching me lessons too

[snow scarab]

lmfao

[storm peak]

I'm no developer by any means but I would say that I'm pretty spun up on atak 🤷‍♂️

[neon crow]

100%.
ECCM and evasion methods are only needed against near peer. It's just a nice to have with the instability of the world ofc, as is with NOD's/Thermals/Etc.

[storm peak]

@prisma lintel now that I'm sitting on my couch reflecting on this conversation, I think you missed when I said that meshtastic should be your E (emergency) in your communication PACE plan. Primary, Alternate, Contingency, Emergency

Will it get the job done? Sure yeah, it has its limitations. Is it a secure form of communication? No, by any sort. Will it obfuscate your comms more than than a handheld? Absolutely not. Is it a fun hobby item? Hells yeah it is

Like seriously, though standard HF radios are legally unencrypted here in the states, they are significantly harder to direction find to as you're talking giant footprints that require multiple simultaneous receivers to "get a fix on" the signal

Please by all means, continue to pursue meshtastic, just don't be spouting that it's more secure than any other radio when it's signature is much worse than Walmart camp radios

[low zodiac]

@prisma lintel hey have you showered in the past couple of days?

[prisma lintel]

Explain to me how a meshtastic radio which doesn't constantly send data in the open, and has a .5 watt power, that is also encrypted is less secure than a hand held radio

When it operates at 915 hx

Hz

I'm willing to listen if you can explain how this is less secure.

But right now everyone here is saying "it won't work" with no explanation.

I don't see how this is less secure than a hand held radio that is a ptt system that operates at like 2 watts or more on a lower band

[storm peak]

Meshtastic isn't encrypted, it's illegal to have encrypted communications in the states outside of federal government. You maybe mistaking digital packet vs analog packet as encryption. 915 mhz is the public domain free to use without a license frequency band, it's always massively over cluttered and generally unstable when you're pushing low power

Yes .5 watts is lower power when talking high mhz, but the aspect of distance for anything rf related is entirely area dependent. I was able to have handheld vhf back and forth comms at .25 watt for elements 4 miles out in the deserts of Nevada

That same frequency and power output would get me tops over a mile if I'm lucky back at base

To tie back into the signature piece, as I typed out earlier, the core aspect of any mesh network is using other devices to act as a repeater for everybody on the network - to bypass not having a central medium

Viewing it through a spectrum analyzer, both a very cheap SDR spec A and a big military contract $30k one, it's seen as a giant massive spike in rf usage that floods the noise floor as a single message is being sent to every device as a daisy chain

It's super duper easy to notice when a mesh is nearby. Hand held radios on the other hand is a single transmission broadcasted at a time. Message gets broadcasted and it's the end of it

The TTP for anything radio related is lowest power at all times. Military radios, PRC-148/152/163/167 and SINGCARS all have options to set the radios at .25 watt or lower but with the ability to push higher. If I remember correctly, I think the 152 can push up to 5 watt? It's been a minute since I had my hands on them

But like if you're in receiver only mode on any form of communication, you're not transmitting, and therefore have no signature. With mesh you have to disable your repeater setting to achieve that

Let me tell you an experience I had. I was out on a training exercise with a whole sf company all using trellisware as the main source of comms and using a single prc 152 for each team to act a conduit to have combined mesh networking across all dispersed elements

Even with the $8k leave behind devices to extend their mesh range, my spec A was so red from their traffic where I was able to pinpoint each teams location within 6% of accuracy just by the sure volume of repeater activity

Mesh networks are a literal death sentence in a wartime environment. What the teams were told is that trellisware mesh comms were as safe as traditional 152 solely because it operated on a higher frequency band than traditional VHF comms. Anybody with a receiver that can detect and process up to 2ghz (can literally program a $20 raspberry pi to do that) can easily trace yo shit to the very centimeter of where your antenna is with enough time

Sorry for the long messages, I know too much of this stuff for my own good

@real whale @coarse laurel Am I wrong in any of my statements made?

[real whale]

"Meshtastic provides AES256-CTR encryption for the payload of each packet when sending via LoRa, with a different key for each channel. The packet header is always sent unencrypted, which allows nodes to relay packets they can't decrypt as well." https://meshtastic.org/docs/overview/encryption/

[storm peak]

Interesting, so I was mistaken on my statement. Radio communication encryption is illegal outside of gov use, but meshtastic uses generic IP packet encryption as it's wifi based comms

[real whale]

as for getting the attention of an opfor, there is a significant issue of rebroadcasts in any mesh network being targeted. you can technically operate meshtastic devices in receive only or transmit only modes but again, patterns they produce would make them easy targets. just because a device is mesh doesn't magically make them possible to target by radio triangulation

directional broadcasting is one of the very few ways of helping mitigate that. as long as there are drones in the air, open broadcasts can always leave you vulnerable

[storm peak]

So meshtastic is no different than a Skype message just without going through an ISP. Which ultimately means you're tethered to a local/regional server

Meshtastic the device, not mesh networking

Still doesn't change the aspect of overall signature that befalls all mesh networks, but protect the content from being exploited from non state actors

Assuming the security keys arent grabbed during the auth process

[real whale]

i can't remember if you can configure broadcast hierarchy into meshtastic devices but from what i remember, the rebroadcast system is pretty similar to IP unicast.

all that aside, the point that was brought up was that meshtastic somehow makes you far more difficult to track and target by long range weapon systems which isn't really the case. sure it offers a degree of encryption but so can cellphones. and the argument that "when the cell towers die, you'll still have comms" makes very little sense as you're essentially operating a bunch of your own smaller cell towers. there's no free lunch when it comes to physics

[storm peak]

It's been a minute since I've looked into meshtastic specifically, I've been away from the community for a while.

Still doesn't change the fact that you glow like a giant red beacon when using any mesh network from your rf output alone. Content maybe protected but you can't hide from your signature if you broadcast

[neon crow]

It is not illegal to have encrypted communications in the states.
It is illegal to have NSA Type 1 Encryption in the states.
AES-256/P25 (NSA Type 3) is perfectly legal to own, just hardly any radio manufacturer will sell civs encryption equipped radios. Which is why we all buy P25 radios 2nd hand.

[lime abyss]

Pretty dumb that we always have to be listened too and be monitored

Oh well

Is the crye AVS any better than the JPC?

[storm peak]

Yes when you include the bridal

[neon crow]

Always. Crye AVS/CPC ontop

🥵

[coarse laurel]

this tracks

[frank wyvern]

best budget rig from crye? (400$)

was thinking this and using the rest of the money for pouches

https://www.cryeprecision.com/Jumpable-Plate-Carrier

meant to send the jpc2

[lime abyss]

Alrighty

[neon crow]

Crye SPC

[frank wyvern]

whats the difference between swimmer and normal?

[neon crow]

Plate cut. Normal is SAPI plate cut. I preferred SAPI so there’s no gaps in vital coverage

[frank wyvern]

not sure what the cross compatibility is with the avs would these side plates work

https://www.cryeprecision.com/AVS-6x9-Side-Armor-Carrier-Set

[neon crow]

You mean on a SPC?

[frank wyvern]

yea

[neon crow]

https://www.cryeprecision.com/Modular-Side-Armor-Carrier

[frank wyvern]

oh does the spc not use molle?

[neon crow]

It does

[frank wyvern]

nvm

[neon crow]

One I linked is Molle. One you linked is AVS harness attachment only

[neon crow]

Anyways SPC beats JPC. It’s one solid piece of laminate. The JPC’s hypalon laminate shoulder straps being sewn to the normal Cordura fabric is a weak point. ( R series adds reinforcements to it but no experience with it yet )

SPC does not have this weakness.
It better integrates structurally.

And if someone tries to say shit about the plates being exposed through the Molle laser cuts. You’re not going to damage your plates. And if you’re worried buy Plate Socks to cover it from UV.

I must go for now. GOD SPEED.

[frank wyvern]

who should i go to for plates perferably level 4

[grand mountain]

ltc

[frank wyvern]

ok thats what i was looking at

[grand mountain]

dont go cheap on level 4s

the cheaper ones are heavy as fuck lol

[coarse laurel]

@storm peak I’m glad it wasn’t my turn to do SPIES today, it’s cold as fuck

[snow scarab]

no

everything that is AVS compatible that is pouches should be useable across all new crye products

[nimble spire]

hey do you guys know if PSA ships in unmarked boxes or do they have logos on them?

[old portal]

@raw river

[muted lynx]

IIRC they ship in a normal box with the contents being in a PSA box

atleast for uppers and such

smaller items are probably just in a normal box

[nimble spire]

what would the legal consequences of me being caught trying to ship about 700$ of AK parts to a university?

[raw river]

Unmarked

[nimble spire]

ok tahnks

[old portal]

That’s between you the school and the post master

[snow scarab]

i mean it depends on the university

probably not smart to order and display firearms on university property though

[frank wyvern]

that is an interesting idea

[sharp flume]

Anybody else rock an osprey? It came with all the extra bits and pieces to make it just like it is in game, but since I don’t have the soft inserts for those, I didn’t really see the point it kind of makes it a pain in the ass to take on and off.

[snow scarab]

no because most issued vest like the osprey sucks

[outer leaf]

Fix it sticks are lowkey nice af

[empty sorrel]

Use em on my bike.

[dense nexus]

quick question why do some fast helmets have holes on the top?

I'm planning on getting a rig but I'm having a hard time choosing a helmet to start on

[coarse laurel]

Those are bump helmets

They aren’t ballistic

[dense nexus]

what's the main difference between bump and fast?

[sharp flume]

Bumps have 0 ballistic protection. Basically kinda like a bike helmet. Has padding and such if you hit your head but not “bullet proof”

[dense nexus]

oh damn

[sharp flume]

That’s why bumps tend to be a hell of a lot cheaper

[misty mesa]

Bump helmets < Gentex CVC

[empty sorrel]

Bump helmet > Opscore fast sf

[misty mesa]

Not for poors like me

[empty sorrel]

Fixed

Ops core is overrated as fuck

[misty mesa]

I can get a helmet with up to 9mm ballistic protection with built in comms for 600$

[misty mesa]

For most civilian applications ballistic helmets are overrated

[empty sorrel]

I have five

[misty mesa]

I’m sorry to hear that, I think your wallet needs couples counseling

[misty mesa]

I dig the face shields

[empty sorrel]

The centerpiece there is an ulbrichts C1300H

Used by German SEK

[misty mesa]

Is that the big ass German helmet that can stop 7.62x39

[empty sorrel]

That's the new one

[misty mesa]

I’m not familiar with German and none American nato stuff

[low zodiac]

Counterpoint: they’re cool

If we went by gear being useful we’d be limited to firearms and camping gear

[empty sorrel]

This one can do it with the add-on plate though

[misty mesa]

I’m into combloc and militia stuff and American stuff

[empty sorrel]

Its heavy

[misty mesa]

I bet

[empty sorrel]

But will also take a 44 mag, without caving in your skull

[misty mesa]

Like a modern altyn

[empty sorrel]

Yeah

[misty mesa]

Except not dog shit

[empty sorrel]

Yeah

[misty mesa]

God I hate how terrible every version of the altyn style helmet is cause they look so cool. But I can’t justify 3k for a helmet rated for 9x18

[misty mesa]

I’ll grant you that

I am looking to buy a galil arm and lord knows there’s better out there

[empty sorrel]

Just get an airsoft clone for the aesthetic

[misty mesa]

True

I already do dpr milita kits

Probably need one

[real whale]

Ssh68 best helmet

Ballistic rating is meaningless when you're buying a meme item

[misty mesa]

I own one, it’s neat

Not an ssh obviously

[proper condor]

Love the kit

[storm peak]

Of course the bottom like Russian gear

[proper condor]

I do indeed

[misty mesa]

Russian 90’s is peak aesthetic

[proper condor]

Fr

[grand mountain]

haiiii :3

[proper condor]

Hai :3

[harsh crown]

Rate my EDC

[proper condor]

It's beautiful

[plush topaz]

Yeah too much internet for me. I think I'll go throw up now.

[neon crow]

very good

[neon crow]

Jack it* fixed it for you

[harsh crown]

Yes there is a picture of my in the loin cloth, no im not posting it

[grand mountain]

in the discord server

straight up "jorking it"

and by "it," haha, well... lets justr say

[kind fog]

Bro pulls up naked to take a pic of his homosexual attire.

[harsh crown]

My dad took the photo

[finite geode]

nice toes

[vocal loom]

ur gunnit is showing

[coarse laurel]

hmm what should I ask for

[ornate shell]

JPC 2.0

[old portal]

You should definitely ruin the relationship with your ask

[ornate shell]

That’s a thick piece of glass or plastic

[empty sorrel]

Yeup, just about an inch

[ornate shell]

God damn 😭

Is it an actual ballistic helmet?? Or a replica

[empty sorrel]

Its real. Ulbrichts c1300h

[ornate shell]

Oh shit

That’s cool

How much does it weigh?

[old portal]

You’ll probably have better advice and conversation in #airsoft

[flat solar]

Yea fair

[twin creek]

https://www.narescue.com/military-products/refrigerator-autonomous-portable-refrigeration-unit-apru-6l.html

[marsh flint]

Found yall

https://www.instagram.com/share/reel/BBGAiXZsEc

[empty sorrel]

Without the visor, about six pounds. With it, a bit over eight.

[empty sorrel]

Ask them if they have that new hemostatic gel.

[ornate shell]

Oh

[empty sorrel]

https://cresilon.com/traumagel/

[empty sorrel]

Yeah, titanium is heavy, but that's the price of pay for not getting your skull caved in.

[kind fog]

$15k for my robotics team

[snow scarab]

fuck ton of tqs

[tepid field]

all bottoms like russian gear me included

[low fox]

Any other ffl licensee’s get this voicemail?

[earnest totem]

yummers

[grand mountain]

I wonder if perhaps this relates to any recent events

[spiral elbow]

Yes

[inland thicket]

What kind of helmet is that

[foggy comet]

IHPS

[coarse laurel]

It’s an IHPS

[foggy comet]

google it

[coarse laurel]

Also fucking ironic seeing the Russian flag on it

[foggy comet]

It can spot Tagilla

[coarse laurel]

Fucking heresy

[foggy comet]

lol

[inland thicket]

why

[foggy comet]

I have TONS more but digging thru bins is alot

[inland thicket]

Also thank you for telling me

[coarse laurel]

It’s the newest US Army standard issue helmet

[foggy comet]

np

[inland thicket]

oh

[foggy comet]

I can source gear if needed

[inland thicket]

that;s why i dont know it

[foggy comet]

aslong as it doesnt break ITARS

I can get russian gear I have a connection

[inland thicket]

maybe one day

[foggy comet]

I stopped buying gear not enough space

[inland thicket]

first i want to leave this shitty village and get a gun

[inland thicket]

literally my stash situation rn

[coarse laurel]

Envg on a IHPS

Only reason I wear it, I normally wear an opscore

[old portal]

That 42s?

[coarse laurel]

Yea

[old portal]

I would like to try it. We combat tested the 1st gen 20 in 2009 Iraq for big army. Wasn’t a fan of them

[snow scarab]

how you gonna have an IHPS but then put russia on it lol

[low zodiac]

russia patch
look inside
american

[old portal]

Confused larper

[neon crow]

Gaming.

I secured a Elbit PVS-31D/ 5032 LW-BNVD housing today for a good price. I’m shoving the L3 1610 IIT’s in it. Gonna be a fucking sweet project, best 31 housing. Best L3 IIT’s (outside Supers)

[coarse laurel]

Sheesh how much did that set you back

[neon crow]

Cheap surprisingly. 2,640 before fees. Complete unit with glass. Covers, factory front/rear Sac Lenses

[coarse laurel]

My personal non issued nods is a PVS-14 with Elbit tubes and a RIX RNV-31 dual tube

[neon crow]

Also the glass is top tier I believe

[coarse laurel]

I had my doubts about the RNV-31 since I’m used to 1900+ FOM but it’s fun to use

[neon crow]

That’s what my 1610’s in for now. L3 M914A till I get a 2nd tube.

I am having problems finding a 2nd M914A or 1610 tube. I need it to match my 2,758 FOM tube.

[coarse laurel]

Its rough trying to find parts rn

[neon crow]

But honestly might just take any 914A. They’re 2,376+ min FOM with 33 SNR, 72 resolution mins. So it’ll still match fine even if it’s a lower SNR than my 38.3

[neon crow]

Yeah L3 cutoff on unlimited high FOM is end of the month. No more shipments to any dealers period

[coarse laurel]

My 14 vs the envg

We were doing airborne ops in the dark lol

It’s pitch black no natural lum

[neon crow]

I think the ENVG’s have the same tube as mine. They’re so fucking good. It’s incredibly clear it’s insane (blue vid isn’t white balanced)

[coarse laurel]

Yeah it uses the same L3 tubes I think

[neon crow]

It's great shit.
I've been blessed with deals for this build. Paid 3,500 for the complete 914A unit, I could have got any L3 tube from 20UM to 24UA in this unit from what I've seen posted of inside M914's. Turned out to be the highest min spec 1610 tube specific to L3 builds.
Then the 31D housing now for cheap. And hopefully a 2nd tube. So total cost will be 8,300 for the 31D's built with these tubes. Alot cheaper than 31A's or D's from either Elbit or L3.

[coarse laurel]

lol I feel like I have to retire from the army before I can afford honest to god 31’s

[neon crow]

After I sell the Northrop PVS-15A housing I was gifted total cost will be 5,800 for the built unit for me. Since the 15A's just free money.

Nutty cheap

[coarse laurel]

Or even if I did it might cause my wife to divorce my ass for spending that much on nods

[neon crow]

Gotta full send bro. NOD's are forever.

I just hope they still sell contract 31A's that are high spec. Since L3 is doing away with buyable high spec probably.

[coarse laurel]

True

My cop buddy in Vegas makes a decent amount building starter nods

Like 14’s and RNVG’s with decent tubes

I bought a 14 from him for 3k

2 years ago

[neon crow]

Green 14?

[coarse laurel]

Yea

[storm peak]

why not wear on opscore?

[coarse laurel]

id have to remove the whole shroud

and its a pain in the ass

[storm peak]

does the new nods now come with a special shroud?

[coarse laurel]

yeah

it comes with the powered mount

it has data cables running towards the back into the battery pack

[neon crow]

Yeah. There's a few versions with a few different powering methods.

It's jank as fuck

[storm peak]

so its kind of like we're upgrading the 90s era shroud

im surprised the army didnt go with how opcore does data cables

that mug must be heavy

[neon crow]

Do you mean the Rail Link?

[storm peak]

yes

the very expensive rails

[neon crow]

AFSOC buddy just got issued it.
He hates it.

[coarse laurel]

looks like this

[storm peak]

looks heavy

alot of forehead pressure

[coarse laurel]

@storm peak whats crazy is in line units they make you sign these out and you permanently wear the damn shroud because its a pain in the ass to put on every time

[storm peak]

they need to just ocie it

[neon crow]

Ah... Yeah you got that version.

[coarse laurel]

the first ones ive worn in 2021 in korea were black im not sure if theres a difference

[storm peak]

speaking of which @coarse laurel is it on anybody's mtoe yet?

[neon crow]

I forget why he hates the Rail Link.
But I will try and find out why again.

[coarse laurel]

yeah

[storm peak]

it wasnt on 5ths when i left

[coarse laurel]

most line units have it now, xviii abn corps especially, i had it in bliss when i was with 1 ad

[coarse laurel]

i personally never seen SF groups use it, ive only ever seen 31's used

by group guys

and i dont blame them because it is heavier than the 31's by a huge margin

[neon crow]

ECOTI's are more popular with SF.
Alot less bulky of a system.

TAD's coming into full swing now too. Better ECOTI

I've seen a 10th MD guy and another guy with ENVG-B's so far.
10th MD guy was a stolen valor guy though. 10th MD. But talked up himself and said he got deployed to like 4 more places than he actually had. Said he got shipped to Iraq and Afghanistan. And said he had two CIB's for Afghanistan

[coarse laurel]

they are getting more and more common within the rank and file

[neon crow]

(He was sent to Germany or some BS)

[coarse laurel]

normally scouts and infantry got priority to use em

until they phase the 14's out slowly

[neon crow]

Probably better suited for the Infantry tbh. For a combined fusion system. Not so much SOF.

[coarse laurel]

its handy as fuck

being able to see my casualties in pitch black

@neon crow the 42's also integrates with nett warrior

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nett_Warrior

[neon crow]

Trust me I know. Hybrid's fucking dope. Used it a good chunk.
I'm going to experiment with the RCOTI when it comes out. No tube burn in. And a full color image.

[coarse laurel]

its like land warrior 2.0

[neon crow]

Yeah wish I had integration like that.
ECOTI's also data link capable.

[coarse laurel]

remember from the mid 2000's, ghost recon shit

[neon crow]

Yeah I know em

Shit's dope. I'm getting a radio which is capable with interlinking to TAK like that. I just need more of the system and it's shit I'm not gonna be able to get.

[storm peak]

im glad the army is upgrading but like when most people arent even given a radio - they dont need anything nett warrior

[neon crow]

More so for battlefield tracking and accountability.
Decreases chance of blue on blue.

[coarse laurel]

the army is so wonky when it comes to pushing out equipment

some fucking units still uses 148's

like ffs

[neon crow]

It's a good integration system for combined arms warfare aswell.

[storm peak]

thats why blufor tracker is in all vehicles

[coarse laurel]

ive seen a BSB use pvs-7's

[neon crow]

I LOVE THE BRICK.

[coarse laurel]

meanwhile XVIII ABN corps has some gucci shit

[neon crow]

Yep. Think of it like Blue Force Tracker but for individuals.

Well

[coarse laurel]

everyone in III Corps looks like they are still fighting the last war

[neon crow]

BFT can be done individually. But it's going to be more common than that.

[neon crow]

i love ACU issued iotvs

[coarse laurel]

lol i remember our BFT/JBCP's/JCR were always fucked up

so fucking dangerous too especially when ur in an armored unit that needed that situational awareness

had a PL throw me a grid that didnt make sense

[neon crow]

Hopefully the new system will be better.
Fucking TAK is a little behind on new devices though. So TAK kits need to catch up some. Think it's S21.

[old portal]

Is this a revival of land warrior?

[coarse laurel]

ended up going to said location and my platform got stuck

[storm peak]

its s23 now

[neon crow]

Ah based!

[coarse laurel]

yeah somewhat

[neon crow]

Just as god intended (We can't modernize worth shit for electronic backend)

[old portal]

When will they learn…

[neon crow]

no

🙂

[coarse laurel]

@old portal so these goggles are also a part of it, ive seen them demonstrate this thing on strykers where it had sensors outside so you can see through the stryker from the inside

you can also control the CROWS via the goggles

[neon crow]

I SEE HIM! ENGAGING! Starts blasting in the Stryker

[coarse laurel]

the issue with this headset is it gave people motion sickness

its cool for situational awareness also with all the overlays and informations but they need to do something about the motion sickness shit

[storm peak]

only legs get motion sick

[old portal]

One of our battalions took it to Iraq in 2007. Said it was pointless trash that just encumbered the NCOs with an extra 25lbs

[neon crow]

Army try to make streamlined warfighting system challenge impossible

Defense contractors doing it without trying when they're to their own devices

[coarse laurel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Visual_Augmentation_System

[neon crow]

😭

Looks like something out of Tron

[coarse laurel]

its basically a ground pounder's version of the F-35 helmet

i think thats what they were going for

[storm peak]

this dont sit right, lets put a constant glowing beacon on each person

[neon crow]

Except the F35 helmet's not shit

[coarse laurel]

"in September 2022, the US Army began accepting 5,000 units of the IVAS and was planning to field them, even though these units were still early versions of the IVAS and would require future software upgrades.[19] However, in November 2022, the US Army announced a "course correction" to the program, due to soldiers reporting physical ailments after using IVAS in the field. [20] The main symptoms were headaches, eye strain, and nausea."

sheeesh

[old portal]

That’s exactly what the land warrior system was. 25lb dismounted blue force tracker that SLs were forced to wear

[neon crow]

Ehhhh. We'll see. It's not a iPhone it's not gonna look like disco lights with LIDAR.

[storm peak]

its a beacon that announces hey the americans are here

[neon crow]

We alr got that with MANET

To a degree.

[coarse laurel]

technology is scary now

[neon crow]

Very

DRONE

[coarse laurel]

imagine getting shwacked by some dude controlling a remote operated MG using a steam deck

[storm peak]

like seeing this from an intel/ew perspective, its a fuckin gold mine for targeting

[neon crow]

[coarse laurel]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AVIC5gvA37s

its a fucking thing

[neon crow]

Unfortunately it's almost a unavoidable certainty in todays battlespace.

[coarse laurel]

Ghost recon made UCP, the XM8 and land warrior look cool

[timber fog]

Hell yeah it did

Shoutout to Advanced Warfighter

[neon crow]

Ghost Recon, Jungle Storm, Desert Storm, Island Thunder, Ghost Recon 2, GRAW 1, and GRAW 2 were my childhood.

[coarse laurel]

I liked the XM8 it’s just sad the program died out

The Malaysian military is prob the only one who adapted it

[neon crow]

That and the XM25

The XM8 was a pretty decent rifle. And the XM25 I think had one or two incidents and the army scared it off if I recall correct

[grand mountain]

Back when the army did cool shit

I'm still sad they canned railguns

Every futuristic weapon the army makes brings us closer to Titanfall and infinite warfare

[plush topaz]

Our remote control D9's and M113's use Xbox controllers lmao

[quiet stone]

Stim i made in like 5 minutes

[stiff dune]

Here gear

[snow scarab]

gross, lefty

[stiff dune]

Oddly enough

I shoot w my left, my strong hand is my right

[snow scarab]

in the opposite lol

[neon crow]

Ambi power

[storm peak]

What's the patch

[storm peak]

ye send pic

tracking the wings

was curious of the words

i can already tell what unit

mr i wear my combat boots in blue jeans

is there a difference?

ya just need to get a pair of solomons

be like the rest of us

[hot cradle]

alot of air soft gear in here lol

[coarse laurel]

What airsoft gear

[old portal]

Why yours of course

Larp

[coarse laurel]

Far better than the 14’s

In a pitch black room

[old portal]

Ya for pitch black that’s really good

[coarse laurel]

Small issue is the battery life, I need to get some lithium ion batteries

[old portal]

Most houses overseas the first call out inside a house was going whitelight so everyone threw nods up real quick.

[coarse laurel]

They use the same size as the ones you use for vape mods lol

[old portal]

Lotta ppl don’t understand a really dark corner in a house is just a really dark fuzzy corner in nods lol

And PEQ2 flood is just too bright and washes them out with the splash

[coarse laurel]

The new peq’s are def an improvement

I need to test it with my IR laser later

[old portal]

I really don’t remember the PEQ15 performance that well. Spent majority of my time with the 2 and all my heavy combat fighting was with the 2

My first engagement ever of a man was with a 2

[coarse laurel]

Some units have peq-16’s and MAWL’s

[old portal]

Those are way above my wheelhouse

[coarse laurel]

The guys in Hawaii are getting some cool stuff

Wait till I tell you about them using E-bikes for recon

They are making jungle cav into a big thing

[old portal]

I was amazed when we got the PSQ18 then we immediately realized it was bulky piece of trash and never used them

Look at that giant stupid thing on the tube

https://cdn-fastly.thefirearmblog.com/media/2024/05/19/14584024/psq-18-grenade-launcher-sight-night-vision-ir-illuminator-on-a-budget.jpg?size=720x845&nocrop=1

[coarse laurel]

What the hell

[old portal]

It was a IR sight for the 203. Complete waste

[coarse laurel]

Kentucky windage all day

[old portal]

Yup. My boys didn’t even run the flip up leaf sight. They were really good at eye balling it

[coarse laurel]

It’s like basketball

[plush topaz]

We use tritium sights on ours. They sit behind the red dot

[empty sorrel]

I've heard some people claiming you can 3d print the cartridge/case with a pistol shell for the primer. What're you loading yours with?

[coarse laurel]

this is an issued m320 so actual 40mm rounds lol

[empty sorrel]

So, a bunch of chalk then?

[coarse laurel]

chalk, HE and smoke

ive probably shot smoke the most

[empty sorrel]

Where ya stationed?

[coarse laurel]

Fort Moore lol.

[empty sorrel]

Only ever seen HE when feilded

Huh

Well, I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. That explains how a guy I know somehow got his hands on an HEDP.

[coarse laurel]

i work at the Ranger School, chalk is mostly used here ive only ever used HE when i was in fort bliss for the 320 range there

and korea

[coarse laurel]

rounds go missing all the time sadly

[shy charm]

Are current russian winter jackets(used in ukraine) warn enough to go hiking with in cold weather? (-10c)

With not much layering I mean

[empty sorrel]

Sadly? I think it's cool tbh

[vivid cove]

I remember I was at a 320 range on Campbell and we were nailing our windows target and the mf got blown in half. I am almost certain we had a live accidently in with our chalks lmao. It was range 36 for those that know the layout

Also now they have the HEDP rounds for forward units which is cool but never got an actual chance to sight in and shoot the digital sight on the 320

Think you have to have the digital sight for the HEDP rounds

[coarse laurel]

What brigade were you in

[vivid cove]

5-101 hhc

I am a pog

[coarse laurel]

CAB huh

[vivid cove]

Yerp

[coarse laurel]

Nothing wrong with that

lol

[vivid cove]

I like my job so can't complain

[coarse laurel]

Aviation is fucking awesome

[vivid cove]

Quick photo I got last week going through CLS

[coarse laurel]

Ranger school demo

We have our own flight companies so the in the BN

[vivid cove]

You doing spies during that mf?

[coarse laurel]

We do spies/fries every month for the ranger school graduation

[vivid cove]

Good shit

[coarse laurel]

And for basic training grad

[vivid cove]

160th does spies for Joe's out here sometimes

[coarse laurel]

We also did it for college football games at Auburn

[vivid cove]

I'd imagine they do it a fair amount for public events

[coarse laurel]

Civilians love that shit

[vivid cove]

Yeah

[coarse laurel]

Oh yeah

The braves games too

[vivid cove]

Not bad at all

You combat arms i take it?

[coarse laurel]

People here got sick of doing it it’s like getting put on staff duty when your name is on the roster

[coarse laurel]

Combat medic

[vivid cove]

Nice

Yeah I just finished cls with one of our 68w and dude was a great teacher

[coarse laurel]

The last one we did for this year was so bad, 29 degree weather

It was cold AF

To be that high up in the air

[coarse laurel]

Nice

Glad someone likes CLS training, some people don’t pay attention

[vivid cove]

Having more classes on things like cric's when we go forward

[coarse laurel]

Or want a pencil whipped test

[vivid cove]

We had the written and lanes for pass or fail

But as someone mostly in an office I like doing actual soldiering tasks every so often

[coarse laurel]

I teach Ranger first responder here from time to time

But it’s abbreviated so I’m only teaching what’s relevant to the POI

Like having to deal with medical emergencies for ranger students

[vivid cove]

If you are in a line unit I'd honestly swing through your S shops and ask if anyone wants to do some lanes

There will be a few in there that would jump at the opportunity

[coarse laurel]

I was with an MP unit and Then Armored before that

As a line medic

I taught a lot of TC3

In Korea I certified like 300 something ROK soldiers

[vivid cove]

That's what we covered mostly in my class was TC3

But more into the NeedleD, NPA's

Just more into the march-paws

[coarse laurel]

They struggled with the English written test so I asked one of the KATUSA’s to rewrite the exam in Hangul

[vivid cove]

That's pretty solid

[coarse laurel]

Turns out it’s just a language barrier

[vivid cove]

Yeah, the katusas from what i heard are pretty smart dudes when they want to be

[coarse laurel]

Yeah when teaching medicine you wanna teach it in their language

Oh yeah

These dudes are in college or finished college already

[vivid cove]

Also absolute party animals

I'm close to reenlistment for Korea or Japan

But I am also so close to getting out

[coarse laurel]

Not reenlisting?

[vivid cove]

Not at the moment

[coarse laurel]

Gotcha

I’m waiting to go to recruiter school right now lol

[vivid cove]

Basically getting out and spam applying for jobs relating to what I do now

[coarse laurel]

thats the move rn honestly

[vivid cove]

Just had a SSG go to recruiting and depending on where you go it's easy work

[coarse laurel]

i only chose to reenlist because my family is stable right now

[vivid cove]

Just get a big city and chill in your office

Ngl the military is solid for family stability

[coarse laurel]

my wife works remote so we can move anywhere no issues

[vivid cove]

But I'd probably go for OCS if I came back to the military just to get paid more

[coarse laurel]

go warrant

[vivid cove]

Yeah I was shooting the shit with people on cq in my mos and a guy already has a job lined up at 80k a year remote

He gets out like next month

Dude is set

I'd go warrant if I was going for aviation but it's a 10 year ADSO

That starts after you finish your pilot training

If I stick in my MOS I'd honestly just go officer and stack the money

[coarse laurel]

oh yeah im tracking, i lowkey wanted to go that route after recruiting

[vivid cove]

To take it back to gear tho got some sordin supreme pro-x

Will give an update soon

[old portal]

Fast rope much cooler lol. Never did spies/fries

[vivid cove]

Spies is fun because you are literally dangling from a helo

But don't be afraid of heights lmao

[coarse laurel]

fries would be fast rope

[old portal]

Never knew it was referred to as that. We got the unofficial training on the 2/75 fast rope tower for pre-deployment cert

No official schooling

[coarse laurel]

yeah

its not really a school per se, you just need a guy who is certified to teach it

the tricky part is getting the aircraft

[vivid cove]

Yeah

Ngl if I did stay in going rappel master would be cool

[old portal]

makes sense then we got instructed by one of the ranger batt guys...our CSM grew up in RRC so he had all the connections

[storm peak]

leg

i miss campbell 😦

[outer leaf]

Finally ordered a D3CRM

[stiff dune]

Surprised you didnt go for the Ready Rig

Since you havce the AC1

[outer leaf]

Tbh I like the D3CRM. I also have beef with the AC1

The AC1 is a perfect minimalist plate carrier minus 1 issue

The shoulder straps are perfectly vertical and cause nasty hotspots after like 2-3 hours if you aren’t built like plank from Ed, Ed, and Eddy

[stiff dune]

Swear bro; brought it out to an event and my shoudler were sore

I still have mine, upgraded to a JPC now, w the ARC shoulder pads

[vivid cove]

Ok

These are fucking epic

Going from razers to these is night and day (should be for the price) they do have an ambiance amplifier (haven't taken it to a range yet but think your clinking of metal or even the door locks shifting when you open them)

Advertised 400 hours off of 2x AAA batteries but will have to test

If you DONT have a high/mid cut helmet they will work under ACH with the head band

At least for me with a large helmet

Pads are super nice but manual says that if you are sweaty or get them wet to take the muffs off and let air dry over night (only mention this because I seen a review where a guy was upset about rust on the internals -shoulda read the manual nerd-)

And to remove batteries for long term storage. Now to find a molle protector to hold them on my carrier

[warm glacier]

with the gelpads there are much more compfy

[coarse laurel]

@vivid cove I own 2 peltors because I hate having to take it off my helmet lol

Never considered sordins

[vivid cove]

I considered the peltors but IDK if they are under any export regulations

Like, I've seen people selling nice ass helmets (team Wendy's for example) on marketplace because they got turned away at customs

I know they are good if issued at the unit level but idk for personal use. Same with the safariland hp 2.0's

[vivid cove]

Mine has a gel pad. Idk if it's the same but they are soft as fuck.

These

[warm glacier]

oh thats great. think it doesn't matter if you have sordin or peltor, if your coms work 😄

[formal skiff]

I have new earpro too

[vivid cove]

Noice

[old portal]

Barracks bed 10/10

[coarse laurel]

Can’t wait for my Supressor to get out of ATF jail

Hopefully it gets back to me quick

[old portal]

What’s wait at now?

[coarse laurel]

Some folks get theirs back as early as 32 hours

Depending on the state

[old portal]

My local shop said their avg turn around been 2 weeks

[coarse laurel]

Or if it’s filed individually or a trust

[old portal]

I haven’t did one since it was all paper and it was 18 month turnaround lol

[coarse laurel]

Yeah that was ass

[old portal]

Still run an old school AAC M4-2000 here at the house on the 5.56s in the safe

[snow scarab]

same

[formal skiff]

Sordin are very good quality earpro

[vivid cove]

Barracks bed goes hard. As long as the barracks management turns on the heat for winter.

[coarse laurel]

lol the struggles of barracks living

I feel sorry for my soldiers because they are being forced to move barracks buildings 2 days before block leave

[vivid cove]

F

[plush topaz]

I'll be doing this soon as well.

[cunning cradle]

woof~!

[ashen edge]

?

[plush topaz]

Woof woof mf

[formal skiff]

Are Peltor comtac 27db ?

[empty sorrel]

Depends on the model and wether gel or foam cup

Iirc, 21-24 db

[low fox]

Dunno my ears still ring a bit after shooting with comtac’s

Outdoor shooting

[formal skiff]

👍🏻

[flint helm]

based sordin user

[vivid cove]

I was gonna go the rout of safariland but sordins so far are epic. Getting a high cut soon so I can fit them comfortably.

[flint helm]

Yeah the sordins are very nice i believe there is helmet mounts for them too

[low pecan]

@white harness

[flint helm]

yes exaclty

I need a proper helmet

gotta stop buying old russian shit

I cant

i have problem

I want to do a opscore build but god expensive

[plush topaz]

Pvs7 are pretty rugged but man. Outdated as hell

10k.

[low pecan]

that isn’t a pvs7

i was wrong i’ll admit, my apologies

[plush topaz]

The housing is. The tube isn't. Pretty cool retrofit but definitely wouldn't pay 10k

[solid rune]

We getting cheeki breeki w this one.

[empty sorrel]

Drip check

[prisma lintel]

Who were the people getting mad at me for saying meshtastic is good?

Getting hits at 100km with my meshtastic t-echo device.

[rugged elbow]

Picked this up

Along with some MREs

[real whale]

getting ready to blow up your toilet?

[rugged elbow]

Yuh