irl-gear

[coarse laurel]

Basically slice a hole in the throat and force a tube in

[compact dagger]

Ah so you were just explaining what crico is

[coarse laurel]

Yeah we had to do it to ourselves too but in combat I personally wouldn’t do it to a fully conscious patient

[compact dagger]

thought you were explaining a scenario where you wouldn't put in NPA

[old portal]

I distinctly remember it in Stryker First Responder course pre deployment

[compact dagger]

Upside of doing that in training, if you have stuffed nose it clears it up quite good

At least it did with me

[old portal]

Oh no this was training and very conscious

[coarse laurel]

Jesus Christ lol they had funny names for CLS back then

[marsh flint]

@compact dagger so you are a full time soldier or do you have like periods of service

[compact dagger]

Full time

[marsh flint]

Yeah

I bet mate is in good shape

[coarse laurel]

Yeah that’s what I mean we had to do it to ourselves while conscious during training as well

[compact dagger]

But currently, since coming back from deployment my whole time at base/training was like 3 weeks total

that's in past 3 months

[marsh flint]

Okay

[old portal]

Bro it was Ranger Batts brainchild. It was a couple week crash EMT course called Ranger First Responder. They gave it to us and they literally changed the name and opening PowerPoint slide ha

[marsh flint]

Hot days are over for a while

[compact dagger]

who, me ?

[coarse laurel]

I teach RFR every Thursday after the RAP week ruck haha

Queue me updating the slides every month

Because some shit changes

[old portal]

Ha I imagine it’s changed a lot now but it was just a copy of what they had going on in the compound

[coarse laurel]

Always changing

[compact dagger]

Question for Izu

Cuz I remember some of them are just squares with adhesive, but some brand also had like Y shape inside without adhesive so blood can go out

[coarse laurel]

Yes

[old portal]

I just remember the NPA training well cuz it sucked and we also did IV training in low light under NODs in it.

[coarse laurel]

I remember the ones with the silver package does and some of the newer green ones

[old portal]

Getting a line in under PVS14s, not an easy task

[coarse laurel]

We stopped teaching IV’s to regular 11B’s and stuff

You can guess why

Someone fucked up

Lol

[compact dagger]

I hope we will get some more training with Brits or Americans sometime soon, but I feel like if it's gonna be CLS stuff I won't be able attend

which sucks, because I like to learn side stuff aside from my main role

[coarse laurel]

Bro when the Australians saw us stick each other with IV’s with fluids and all during training they were mortified

[compact dagger]

Just in case i'd ever need to transfer to different unit and maybe get sent to CLS training i'd at least know some shit

Stuff has proven useful before, since when we were learning some new stuff it was easier because I at least knew something about the subject

What counts as "and all"

And by training you mean just general military training or just CLS ?

[coarse laurel]

Like general training

We would do it while inside a vehicle on bumpy roads during Evac etc

I also have to say this, as a combat medic I’m not the type to want to sit on a patient like some of the younger medics are, my main priority is getting the dude off the X, stabilizing them and getting them Evac’d instead of doing alot of procedures that would take me out of the fight

[compact dagger]

For stuff like that i'd like to be present, because if I don't learn how to do it, it's nice to see people actually doing it,

[coarse laurel]

I try to impart this to my soldiers but some of em wanna be fucking wannabe battlefield surgeons and shit

Watching too many movies

If you start doing invasive procedures and shit it will take you out of the fight as a medic or first responder and in the case of someone else going down you are cooked

I tell em save it for the role 1

[compact dagger]

Well, personally as a stupid grunt that's sometimes a radioman I get both sides, on one hand, you are doing everything you have to to better the odds of the patient surviving and getting him the fuck out, but on the other side the guys want to "get him better"

Shit wording but I hope you understood what I meant

[coarse laurel]

Priority is always get them to the next level highest of care

[compact dagger]

Fuck I need to start playing ArmA again to boost my English back to the level it used to be

[old portal]

Bro all the IV training days for 11B was scarier than combat.

[coarse laurel]

This is why they stopped teaching regular infantry dudes IV’s

Also we stopped giving regular saline unless required or if we are pushing meds and TXA.

Hextend isn’t a thing anymore

[compact dagger]

And another reason why i'd want to go and train with those guys is that they ain't poor, so we wouldn't have to play pretend with some of our shit

[coarse laurel]

What ends up happening is giving a GSW patient just straight up normal saline doesn’t do anything, if anything all it does is dilute what blood remains

[compact dagger]

From what I heard, even for the AFA course they didn't want to give old fucked up uniforms so they could put wounds with blood and allow to cut clothes

Without a mountain of papers

[coarse laurel]

This is why we carry whole blood now

And for Ranger first responder we have walking blood banks

[old portal]

Ya it’s definitely changed a lot

[coarse laurel]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trauma_triad_of_death

Hypothermia feeds into not being able to clot and not being able to clot feeds into acidosis which feeds to hypothermia

[old portal]

I just remember the term saline and ringers being used a lot. I don’t really recall the context tho. I do know it was pretty common to rehydrate with saline bags on Sunday nights after a hard weekend.

[coarse laurel]

It’s a cycle

[old portal]

Doc always having to replace the CLS bag inventory

[compact dagger]

Luckily my only interaction with a CLS was when we were bored as fuck on a patrol and he did IV access and one IV fluids

[coarse laurel]

Hypothermia = trauma blanket
Coagulopathy = 2g of TXA (Tranexamic acid)
Acidosis = blood infusion

If you can get on top of these 3

You can save them with a 90% chance

[compact dagger]

by trauma blanket you mean the foil/space blanket ?

[coarse laurel]

Yup

Hypothermia affects clotting

[compact dagger]

had a question about those, which I forgot to ask yesterday in class

Won't the patient overheat ?

[coarse laurel]

Every GSW patient needs to be warmed, losing blood makes you cold because blood regulates your temps

[compact dagger]

If you do it in summer

[coarse laurel]

Doesn’t matter

[compact dagger]

Or the bloodloss will make him cold anyways

[coarse laurel]

Correct

[compact dagger]

okay

Was just wondering, if it wouldn't cook the guy inside because it insulates him, and he'd just overheat

[coarse laurel]

If he had blood loss you wanna warm him up either way

[compact dagger]

Yea now I get it, for some reason didn't think about him being cold because of bloodloss

[coarse laurel]

On top of this monitoring vitals is important, on the off chance he does get too hot like body temp of over 102F then bring back down by taking it off

[compact dagger]

I was about to say that giving him colder IV saline could also work, but remembered you saying that saline isn't that good for bloodloss since it'd dilute blood

[coarse laurel]

Yeah

Not giving saline unless I’m pushing meds via IV

Like ketamine

We don’t use morphine anymore

And fentanyl is very uncommon now

[compact dagger]

We got our morphine taken away, at least in KFOR becuase some morons decided to chill when back at base

Not in our rotation, but some time beforehand

[coarse laurel]

I have to write a sworn statement everytime I break the seal for ketamine

It’s a pain in the ass because I use this for airborne injuries

[compact dagger]

what do you mean airborne injuries ? As in after jumping with parachute ?

[coarse laurel]

Yup

[compact dagger]

What would be most common injuries/causes ?

Improper landing ?

As in not preparing correctly, not tucking legs before landing, or whatever was the proper way for good landing

[coarse laurel]

Always

Bad PLFs cause injuries

[compact dagger]

Had any injuries that wasn't the jumpers fault ?

[marsh flint]

yea

[compact dagger]

fuck no

I'm in a terrible shape

[marsh flint]

oh

well don't they say nato soldiers are coca cola soldiers haha

[compact dagger]

okay maybe not terrible, but just mid at best

[marsh flint]

everybody gets into decent shape during fdf conscription. At least those who serve full year, NCOs, Officers and special positions

[compact dagger]

For me it's that because i'm lazy when I don't have to do shit

And I can't force myself to do something without company

[marsh flint]

but those who serve only half a year its quite rough six months

[compact dagger]

Like, when deployed I was going to the gym, but after 2nd month I stopped, becuase my roommate stopped going

[marsh flint]

yeah

[compact dagger]

I don't even need him to work out with me, it's more of him actually going there with me, he can be on the other side of the gym doing whatever

I just need someone to go there with me

[marsh flint]

I see a lot of 40+ in good shape in active reservist events

year-olds*

dont know if its encouraging (it actually is)

or depressing 😅

[compact dagger]

well encouraging if you are looking up to them, and depressing if you ( like me ) don't have motivation to go to gym or just do any type of activity

then you start thinking, wtf, even this old guy can do more than I can

[marsh flint]

yeah

[wooden elm]

Oh, I know this think. I saw it in our school camping

[muted lynx]

[real thorn]

sovietskaya sobaka

[robust elk]

always love seing some ifakporn

[empty sorrel]

I don't think so, but probably frowned upon since it so easily devolves into bickering

To catch a ban you'd probably have to post a successful drone strike

Laser cut mollle 🤮

[grand mountain]

laser cut molle is fine it's just a pain

[wet geyser]

I got a good parody Wagner patch

[tiny meadow]

Cope and seethe

[empty sorrel]

It's an ugly way to save three cents and two ounces

[orchid pendant]

I got a ronin tactics plate carrier. Thing is pretty nice

[tiny meadow]

Ew

That thing is fugly

[orchid pendant]

Eh I guess?

[wet geyser]

I like it real mini map?

[tiny meadow]

It’s a Shaw concepts pcp but I do own a legit minimap

[tiny meadow]

Crye spc with fallout deformity

[orchid pendant]

Thats the new one mine doesn't look like that

I got mine in like 2018

[cobalt bramble]

Nice Shaw gear

[cobalt bramble]

The JPC rip off?

[orchid pendant]

Pretty much lol

[deep atlas]

just had a couple buckets of chicken and decided to get out and do some airsoft with the pals rate the kit

[orchid pendant]

Sheesh average pmc on reserves rn

[tiny meadow]

Oh you got one of the old gen carriers

[wet geyser]

Ok. I got a repro mini map on mine cuz I can’t afford the $400 real one lol

[orchid pendant]

Yeah, the new one looks a little silly. Couldn't find a crye so I went with that one

[tiny meadow]

Yea honestly not worth it besides the novelty

I got mine in 2022 and it didn’t even include the patch

I upgraded from an fcpc to the Shaw arc

Best investment I’ve made

If you want structural integrity out of a jpc looking carrier just get an spc

[grand mountain]

jpc 1.0 fucks too

if you get this id replace the bund with a 3 band skeletal

[tiny meadow]

Good carrier, just hate when dudes overload it for more than it’s able to carry then call it mid like no shit

It’s not an lbe

[grand mountain]

very few people are overloading a jpc

boys it's so joever

I felt a bump on my leg and thought it was a pimple or something and ended up pulling a fucking tick off

I gotta make sure its head isn't still on

fuuuuuck

update: doesn't look like the bastard's head came off on me

[empty sorrel]

Am I the only one that doesn't like the shoulder strap design of the JPC?

Just doesn't look like it would be particularly durable

[grand mountain]

it is

[empty sorrel]

I assume it's not removable?

So if it gets damaged you're just SOL

[grand mountain]

i dont think so no

[low fox]

nikita??

nikita brother

[deep atlas]

it may be

[plush topaz]

Yep. For larp it's great.

Best option

[tepid ingot]

LYME TIME

[wet geyser]

Looks like fun

[plush topaz]

Crye AVS

I use an agilite k zero for the army

None of the above

That movie was so bad lol

I just mean none of that will happen any time soon. There are no signs that precede a civil war.

It would probably involve gross violations of the constitution

With many many instances of civil unrest

But this isn't a topic the mods like us having

I just think y'all need to secure that damned border

Europe

Go to any major Mediterranean city. It's wild

Barcelona wow

You have to step over dozens of migrants just to get to the subway lol

[low zodiac]

Self sustainment will carry you further than body armor ever will

Plates are made to save your life, not keep you in the fight

Food water and shelter

Watch a channel called “the outdoor boys”

That’s a good example of what to prep for

[plush topaz]

Outdoor boys is the best

[low zodiac]

Inspires me so much lol

[plush topaz]

I love his Alaskan cabin

[low zodiac]

I want to do that type of stuff

Like truly remote

[plush topaz]

Love me some back country camping

[low zodiac]

My truck is a great adventure machine but a setup that can be carried on your person is just so much more versatile

[plush topaz]

You have a power bank yet?

[low zodiac]

Not yet

I’m working on my offroad stuff more for now

I bought sliders a few days ago but have had some trouble with the install

[plush topaz]

I have a jackery 1500 with 2 panels.

So nice

[low zodiac]

CBI trails

460 bucks off Facebook marketplace

[plush topaz]

Beauty. Good deal. My sliders were like $2,000+

[low zodiac]

Very good deal

[plush topaz]

You save so much buying used

Shipping those things are wild

[low zodiac]

They are 1400 bucks new before shipping

It has a little rust but is mechanically sound

[plush topaz]

They're aluminum don't worry

[low zodiac]

You’re sure?

Actually I guess that does make sense

[plush topaz]

Mine are

Less than $400?

[low zodiac]

They are 120 pounds between the two of them

Actually no I just googled it, it’s steel

Definitely needs a new coat

I’ll wire brush it and spray some coating on it

[plush topaz]

True. Stronger

[low zodiac]

Yep

They’re DOM tube

Cali raised sliders are DOM standard but CBI needs that as a spec

Mf GOOGLE IT

If you are this out of the loop around carriers you probably aren’t the guy who would actually get use out of a system like that

[magic thistle]

You’re gonna want the harness as well

[low zodiac]

Get a cheap TAPS, FLC, or some other cheap but real vest and train with it and learn what you need before dropping thousands on something fancy

[magic thistle]

An AVS without the harness is just a subpar jpc lol

Buy used and you’ll save some money

[plush topaz]

@low fox check out the agilite k zero with war fighter cummerbund

[plush topaz]

Ah mine are also steel lol. I always thought they were aluminum

[low zodiac]

Usually sliders, skids, and bumpers are steel for the extra strength

Aluminum is better for bed racks and such

Well, in your case roof racks

[plush topaz]

There goes your 500,000 property

I love lego

[plush topaz]

Star wars died years ago

But Lego star wars is dope

Did you watch the new show

It's the worst piece of televisiom I've ever watched

It's so bad I don't even have words to describe

Yes but the writing just makes no sense

Boba fett sucked. Mando seasons 1-2 was great. 3 it fell off.

The best Disney star wars IP was rogue one

And even that was close to being terrible.

That show only got better and better

It's amazing how many fans haven't seen it yet

Can't get past the cartoon thing

The series finale

Wow

Speaking of tear jerkers

You ever play gears of war?

Man. The trailer for the new one

Hits the heart strings

It won't mean much to you if you haven't played the old ones

I'll finish it sometime

@low fox this is a jedi in the acolyte

Qui Gon chins

Night

[snow scarab]

what the fuck??? rouge one is fucking dope as shit

as someone who has been watching star wars literally my entire life

saw ROTS in theaters at the age of 2

[plush topaz]

Like I said. It's the best Disney star wars product yet

I said it was very close to being shit due to some wild choices during production. Watch the making of it. Very interesting

The Vader scene was added like a month before release lol

[compact dagger]

Imho clone-wars/bad batch were better than any of live action ones

Especially early seasons for clone wars, as a cartoon you'd imagine it would be tame, but no, people dying left and right

[timber fog]

Yeah, the Clone Wars animated series was heavily overlooked

Super underrated

[timber fog]

It has some of the coolest action scenes out of any SW media for sure

But as a film? Mid at best

Any of y’all seen Andor? I heard that one was actually really good

I couldn’t get into Mando, the choreography during fight sequences was too “school theater production”-y for me

[plush topaz]

Yep

What didnt you like about it?

[marsh flint]

rogue one is one of the best spinoffs though

better than new trilogy

[plush topaz]

It's true. It didn't. But it still made for a good film.

[plush topaz]

The best spinoff! Film that is. Andor is the best show

[marsh flint]

[digital tiger]

Sent you a pm

[marsh flint]

[dry valley]

wtfffffffff

[plush topaz]

[plush topaz]

Sleeping beauty

[golden garden]

💪

[slow oriole]

raid backback way to overpriced in this game to irl price

[plush topaz]

Cool

[digital tiger]

What pack is that?

[plush topaz]

Agilite AMAP 3

https://agilite.co.il/products/amap-iii-assault-pack

[exotic widget]

Nice. Ship to us?

[plush topaz]

Agilite has a US store

[exotic widget]

Very nice. Good looking gear.

[exotic widget]

[low zodiac]

How do you remove or add layers when in the field? I understand the principle of “comfortably cold” but sometimes it has failed me

At my FTX we didn’t really have enough time to drop our packs and remove our gear to change layers before walking up mountains or something

Seeing you in a warm looking jacket with full gear reminded me of that, and I’m wondering if there’s some sort of niche clothing type that allows for more efficient layering in the field like that

[exotic widget]

Any hearing protection?

[low zodiac]

Earplugs if you think you’re aboutta fight

[plush topaz]

Take off your kit add or remove as needed. Obviously you won't be changing your underpants while getting shot at lol

My Arcteryx leaf cold wx is excellent for cold but I don't overheat if I'm active.

I tend to avoid long John's entirely unless I'm Doing something static. I always overheat in them when active

[low zodiac]

It’s very possible I just have shitty gear

FLC, medium molle, fleece top thing, waffle top, and a beanie

Dropping the medium molle kinda sucks, it’s a pain to fit over the FLC

[low zodiac]

I wanted to buy one of those so bad but you literally can’t

Boils my blood

[plush topaz]

A good tencate balaclava trumps a beanie any day

[plush topaz]

Just ask a cop buddy to buy for you.

[low zodiac]

Perhaps

[plush topaz]

No it's very common to overheat with layers or freeze from lack thereof

Planning ahead is the best way to avoid

[low zodiac]

It was very cold on my FTX, -7c and very mountainous terrain

It was hard to find a good balance in the layers

[plush topaz]

Oh that's tough

Thankfully I don't have to deal with extreme cold here lol

A cold wx wouldn't keep you warm in - 7

[low zodiac]

It was a very eye opening experience lol

I’m trying to prepare for it, we do one FTX a semester and there have been way colder ones than the one I experienced

Snow is almost guaranteed for the fall semester

It lasts 3 days so 2 nights

[plush topaz]

What is ftx

[exotic widget]

What kind though?

[low zodiac]

foam ones (im joking)

[plush topaz]

Just wear a gaming headset like that idiot from last week

[low zodiac]

field training exercise

we go onto a military base and play pretend for one weekend a semester

they give us like 30k rounds of blanks and we practice movements and attacks

its for rotc

[plush topaz]

Sounds fun

[low zodiac]

It was

The more it sucks in the moment the better of a memory you’ll have

and they had helicopters

[plush topaz]

Infantry in a nut shell

Unless your memories induce PTSD

[old portal]

Just stop having memories from combat traumatic brain injury. Problem solved

I don’t think I’ve had a dream in probably 15 years

[old portal]

You guys got some high speed shit in 4th RTB

[old portal]

Is that a dual plug headset?

[coarse laurel]

yeh

[old portal]

Very nice

[digital tiger]

They’re fine dude. Just ask him.

[old portal]

Definitely recommend attaching a Turtle Beach from GameStop to that bad boy

[muted lynx]

wait

what?

lmao

[old portal]

Someone posted a video of themselves at an indoor range and their earpro was a gaming headset with mic still attached… scariest part there was range cadre standing next to shooter…

[grand mountain]

LOL

[grand mountain]

yeah you might have to yell the question at him tho

[stone lark]

army strong lol Ft. Bragg/Liberty?

[compact dagger]

Before I say what we are wearing for when it's like -20 outside, what do you mean with medium molle and fleece top ?

Just so I don't end up saying the same exact shit with different words

[low zodiac]

Medium molle is the bag, and the fleece is known as the “fleece”

I don’t know it’s real term

It’s a black fleece jacket

Can be green if you are cool

[compact dagger]

basically something like this ?

[low zodiac]

This

[compact dagger]

Interesting that you can wear that stuff above the uniform

But for what we wear for like -15c to -20, is basically just a shirt, then a long sleeve shirt and waffle top, and uniform on top of that, or scrap long sleeves and waffle top for the fleece

[low zodiac]

The problem is less raw insulation and more the ability to shed layers rapidly without much notice

[compact dagger]

If we know for a fact that we will be staying there for longer time, like 3h+ we just throw a snugpak jacket under the uniform to keep you comfortably warm

Well if you have too much insulation or just too many layers you will sweat a bunch when active and then start freezing as soon as you stop for longer than a few minutes

[low zodiac]

I can be bundled up in my blouse, waffle top, and fleece, but if we suddenly need to pick up and do a 5 mile movement with intermittent defensive stuff it gets really challenging to manage the layers

Dropping the pack, removing the vest, and then fucking with the ruck to store or get more layers was very hard for me to do

To the point where I had to just thug it out most of the time and just be sweaty (cold)

It was around -1c during the day which wasn’t terrible, but at night it was pretty chilly

This is the terrain

[compact dagger]

seeing that you can wear stuff over the uniform top, if I were you i'd get the snugpak jacket ( I just know that brand and they are good, can get other ones ) , or something else that's warm, keep a bag pocket open so you can quickly dump it there if you have like 5 minute warning before leaving

And in open fields like that the jacket keeps the wind away, at least our one does, so it also doesn't chill you as much

[low zodiac]

Yeah the wind is real bitter in the mountains

Dry and cold

[compact dagger]

As I said, for me it's different because we live in a flat country with a ton of forests, so the wind is the least of our problems

[compact dagger]

but still, wearing that stuff while in Germany for an FTX was good for us

sadly don't have a pic of bags we have

but from the picture alone it looks more massive than yours

[low zodiac]

Our load is about 40lbs plus the weapon and ammo

And water

Add 20 more if you need to carry the radio

It isn’t terrible but my cardio sucks lol

[compact dagger]

old harris boxes ?

[low zodiac]

The mountains kill me

[compact dagger]

radio i mean

[low zodiac]

I’m not sure, the more senior cadets lug them around

[compact dagger]

idk the correct term for them, we just call them mempack

or smth

[low zodiac]

It’s a huge box

Like two shoeboxes big

[compact dagger]

Not this exactly but i guess something along these lines ?

[low zodiac]

Sorta

It looked older somehow

Maybe it was just more beat up

[compact dagger]

similar to ours, we have 45, plus weapon, ammo, food and water

nah this is a new one, just first image online that was similar to what we used also

[compact dagger]

Also, this an FN mag ? It just looks like ones we have, but at the same time it's different, because you have a handguard/just rails and the bipod is further back

and ours is on front of the weapon

or its a 5.56 lmg ?

[low zodiac]

It’s a 240L I think

No mag in when I got the photo

[compact dagger]

To me everything looked like an FN MAG except that bipod and rails

[compact dagger]

Mag ?

You mean belt or those things also accept mags

[low zodiac]

I thought by mag you meant the magazine 💀

[compact dagger]

nah FN MAG as the weapon

[low zodiac]

We have 240s and 249s for machine guns

[compact dagger]

nice

[low zodiac]

Though someone gave me their blanks so I basically became another machine gunner with the m4

Nobody told me not to put it in full auto lol

[compact dagger]

Never got to try and shoot 556 LMGs, guys from the larger base got to shoot with minimis

why not full auto ?

[low zodiac]

Feeding issues is what I heard, but it was feeding fine

[compact dagger]

interesting

[low zodiac]

Very low fire rate for a ar though

[compact dagger]

We can't put our piece of shit guns on full auto just because leadership doesn't like it

that we go through whole mag in a few seconds

[low zodiac]

💀

[compact dagger]

But, at least when noone is looking we tend to "drop" some of our blanks

[low zodiac]

I was doing 5 round bursts to try and be realistic

[compact dagger]

One time we "accidentally" misplaced like 2k of them

even tho to this day I remember the approximate location of the stash

so unless something was built over it I feel like it should be there

[low zodiac]

The blanks are worth like 40 cents a pop or something

For 556

[compact dagger]

well here they are worthless

[low zodiac]

I looted a spent smoke grenade off the ground lol

[compact dagger]

If it would be possible to sell them to anyone I doubt there would be so many burried in the sand in our ranges

or polygons, idk whats the proper name for that stuff

[low zodiac]

Loaded machine gun belt links are pretty cool to have

Some guys took home small chunks of them

[compact dagger]

lol

[low zodiac]

Like 5 rounds chained together for the 240

Cool souvenir

Two people found antler sheds which was pretty cool too

[compact dagger]

Coolest thing we found on the field was like 155 round lodged in the ground

and a bunch of smaller ones

[low zodiac]

Loot

[compact dagger]

Our guys are super happy when they find antlers, they just take them home and sell them

[low zodiac]

I’d never sell one

That’s trophy loot

I have some leftover MREs on display above my fireplace lol

Next to my smoke grenade

[compact dagger]

imho its a trophy when you kill the animal

when you just find them meh

unless they are huge

then i'd understand

found the picture

after seeing it again I doubt it's 155

idk tho

[plush topaz]

Get more and make a sweet ashtray

[marsh flint]

One of our guys found a huge ass bomb shell from firing zone

It was like from some cartoon

You know, round and bulky

He lifted it on a tree stump to be on display. Staff didn't like it because you should not touch those.

[compact dagger]

well we fucked around with these since we know they are mostly harmless

[marsh flint]

Yeah but it's a common order not to touch old shit in fireing zone. You never know what they are. But yeah it was clearly detonated

[compact dagger]

in our case it's safe because it got fired into the zone where people and vehicles walk around

so they wouldn't shoot explosive stuff into non UXO zone

[marsh flint]

I don't question that hehe

[compact dagger]

would be different if it was near an uxo zone

except those training GMG rounds

they don't like that we tend to kick them time to time

[marsh flint]

Haha

[coarse laurel]

Benning

[old portal]

Gonna be a sad day when it’s only known as Moore and Liberty because so much time has passed

[coarse laurel]

It will always be Benning to me

No disrespect to Gen Moore but Benning’s name should be associated with the suck fest

[old portal]

This exactly. Too much history has been made at these places by units assigned to it.

[timber fog]

Who cares

Benning was a loser

[timber fog]

This is the only correct take for not changing the name

[wanton lodge]

V

[thick jasper]

Oh hey I've used that before

Not American so I've only used it by other names

[tawny bane]

Actual setup

[plush topaz]

Is that Russian

[tawny bane]

Ars arma yeah

[plush topaz]

Looks nice.

[tawny bane]

Thanks, your agilite is nice too

[storm peak]

Looks like a solid copy of AVS

Where atak

[tawny bane]

Platebag same, but its not a avs

Scanda plate carrier

[plush topaz]

I was just writing that

Nice thick and wide shoulder pads in the rear. Low profile front shoulder.

The cummerbund is gigantic however

@tawny bane is there space to insert side plates?

[tawny bane]

Yeah

[plush topaz]

Why is there so much hook and loop on the rear of the bags?

[tawny bane]

I have soft armor for side

[plush topaz]

That would ruin my uniform lol

Can you put sapi plates in those?

[tawny bane]

This?

[tawny bane]

Its universal

[plush topaz]

Here

Tons of Velcro on the back of the bags

[plush topaz]

Amazing. Straps inside to tie them down?

[tawny bane]

one telescopic handle for evacuation, the other for carrying a vest

[tawny bane]

Yeah

[plush topaz]

Feature rich. I like it

How much is it?

[tawny bane]

One strap

[tawny bane]

About 220$

[plush topaz]

Wow.

[tawny bane]

In international shop price high af

[snow scarab]

why tf is it so blocky

@plush topaz got the full norarm set

top and bottom

bottom is a lil tight tho 😂

[tawny bane]

Idk

[snow scarab]

looks uncomfortable as shit

[plush topaz]

Pics

[snow scarab]

i’ll take one when i get back to my room

actually hold on

[muted gate]

find the BST groups on facebook

or the middleman sellers on insta

[low fox]

k0 spotted

[tawny bane]

[tawny bane]

insta/facebook banned

i dont have a good vpn

[plush topaz]

Duh

[snow scarab]

lol

[scenic lotus]

Any one have any good cheap steel target recomendations?

[marsh flint]

Caldwell uses AR-500 hardened steel

[low fox]

Was very tempted to buy one of these prior to getting my SKD PIG plate carrier

Here’s the plate carrier currently, missing a radio pouch and 2 banger pouches, (still in shipping)

[tawny bane]

looks nice

[plush topaz]

Cute

[flat solar]

Fr Bro

Body armor is for sissies

[small pine]

Plate carriers 2nd day outside starving because they could have only brought 2 twinkies

[jagged shoal]

Felt cute, might kill scavs later

[scenic lotus]

Thanks for the recommend. I'll check them out.

[small pine]

Hey guys can yall say if thats worth getting?

This one is technically 20 euro but in my currency its about 40 bucks, second use rig and its from MFH which I have no idea if its good or not

Apparently made from 1000D Cordura

[low fox]

@plush topaz IDF Puffer jacket

[plush topaz]

We get those?

[low fox]

no lmaooo, i found one thats ranger green in the civil market

[plush topaz]

And you're wearing it. In June.

[wet geyser]

It’s called LARP lol

[empty sorrel]

Does it get cold over there?

I'd tell ya to get an ECWCS lv7 jacket, assuming you are mostly static.

[plush topaz]

Yes.

Can get below zero in some places

Celsius that is

[plush topaz]

My Arcteryx jacket is the best for this winter climate.

[empty sorrel]

Yeah, if you're moving around, a lighter jacket is better, particularly one that still has some venting to let it breathe

If it's only barely below freezing in the worst of cases, not really worth going for the high loft jacket

[burnt roost]

Altyn's on top

[empty sorrel]

#airsoft is one channel down

[plush topaz]

That eotech is faker than CNN

[burnt roost]

I aint spending 400 bucks 🙏

[plush topaz]

If you know who sells new eotechs for $400 spread the word my g.

That's a steal

[burnt roost]

XD Sorry I ment 629.00 USD

[empty sorrel]

What you do is you buy an old busted one, then when you send it in, they'll tell you they can't repair it, and give you a 50% off code for any optic on their website.

[rustic patio]

c3po curtains are hard

[burnt roost]

I had those since I was 4 🗣️ 🔥

[plush topaz]

And you're how old?

[burnt roost]

Im 15 now

[plush topaz]

With real guns?

[burnt roost]

They are owned by my dad

[plush topaz]

Ah.nice

[opal karma]

im have gun?

[plush topaz]

Sure. Take mine

[opal karma]

you war?

[plush topaz]

Actually my name is Cannoli

[opal karma]

i abdul

[plush topaz]

Hi Abdul

[glossy pebble]

please dont become a all black kit bruh

[opal karma]

guys im play war tuned in chat

[jagged shoal]

Maska supremacy

[echo jay]

Wtf the medic made you put that you have ED on your carrier

[cinder stream]

Could be for eating disorder not the other ED

[marsh flint]

[formal onyx]

Did a RAID Mod for the first time

This blouse was already a bit scuffed so it didn't bother me to mod it

[timber fog]

Hell yeah

Looks good

[formal onyx]

Thanks

[plush topaz]

[cobalt bramble]

What’s the chest rig the groin pad guy is wearing

[plush topaz]

Old idf issue infantry vest. Hes just fat so it doesn't close

The three buckles keeps it secure though. The Velcro on those wore out super fast anyways.

[cobalt bramble]

Looks like a neat vest

Outdated sure but it reminds me of the old LBV the US guys got issued

[plush topaz]

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/256448223435?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=QbAABfqjS1m&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=YAO6VH6xQ-C&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[cobalt bramble]

$350 usd 💀

I get it. It’s a collectors item, but good Lord.

[plush topaz]

I still use mine on occasion. It's a good vest. Tough

[cobalt bramble]

Nice

[tall aspen]

bussin

[glossy heath]

Garandthumb Rogue Boss at Lighthouse wearing 'USEC Woodland Infiltrator' clothing and 'Eagle Allied Industries MBSS plate carrier'~~?

[ashen edge]

raid mod W

[snow scarab]

the difference in these pictures is obscenely funny 😂

[snow scarab]

what?

it’s a crye m81 top and a crye JPC 2.0

[low fox]

its look like russia "lies" camo pattern

[formal onyx]

Whatchu mean by this

It's just M81

[plush topaz]

Which pictures

[snow scarab]

that and the first one you sent with you and the fat dude

[plush topaz]

Ah different kit entirely. Different mission.

[formal onyx]

I need to get a Small Long blouse to do this to next time

[muted gate]

Raidmod and its consequences has been a disaster for the human race

[plush topaz]

Do you wear heels with your blouse

[storm peak]

Why those chest pockets so large

Makes everything look disproportionate tbh

[formal onyx]

Because they're the pockets from the waist of the blouse

[formal onyx]

Only with fishnets

[ashen edge]

please untuck your blouse

also invest in a belt

[plush topaz]

Go on

[formal onyx]

A, it's a RAID mod so you can tuck them in, B I have a belt but didn't feel like putting it on these pants

[magic thistle]

I agree tho untuck them jawns

[formal onyx]

Nah

I'm doing it out of spite at this point

[magic thistle]

Ok

[timber fog]

Would look better with a better fitting shirt

[snow scarab]

so many skinny bastards

@plush topaz i’m finally outside of the realm of skinny bastard

around 197 every morning rn

[formal onyx]

140ish last i checked, lol

[snow scarab]

like i said. skinny bastard

[plush topaz]

Nice. You're my weight!

[snow scarab]

wanna see the difference between when i graduated basic training to now? it’s wild

[plush topaz]

Ya

[snow scarab]

i’ll dm you it

[plush topaz]

I'm about 20lbs heavier than when I was in the army

Mostly fat

[grand mountain]

im 120lb

[plush topaz]

You're also super young

[grand mountain]

im also on hrt so i dunno if im gainin much past this point

since that just kinda evaporates upper body mass usually

[shut escarp]

Aren't you still in technically speaking?

[plush topaz]

I'm a reservist. Not currently deployed. I was referring to my mandatory conscription

[shut escarp]

Ah fair enough I guess different cultures treat it differently.

[plush topaz]

Everyone in Israel, unless exempted, does reserves until they're in their 40's

[shut escarp]

Ah fair I can see how you don't count it as being in.

[plush topaz]

In peacetime you'd do maximum a month service a year. Sometimes less.

[shut escarp]

In most of europe reserves are voluntary. (I think only Switzerland and Finland being exceptions)

[plush topaz]

Yes volunteer armies would be different than conscription

[shut escarp]

Yeh

Then again apart from heavy equipment and nods most civilian shooters have better guns than military xD

[plush topaz]

And shoot better too

[shut escarp]

Well duh xD
Spooke to an army guy a couple of years back that said
Oh ye we get to shoot plenty once a month we go to the range and shoot one battle kit (that being ~150-250 rounds)

I don't have a lot of ammo rn and still shoot ~400 rounds last big range trip xD

[old portal]

Gotta remember since the end of GWOT it changed a lot. Training budgets significantly decreased. Before this it wasn’t uncommon to go to a platoon level range and shoot 2000 or more rounds a day per weapon system. This was often in a weekly basis.

[shut escarp]

Oh I don't mean US specifically.
(I'm Europoor)
A lot of smaller EU armies spend most of the budget on salary soon very little gets allocated for maintenance/training.

[small pine]

Thank you for the response

2 mag pouches that store 2 mags each I think

Yeah it has 2 bigger pouches for anything else so I think I can store stuff in them too

45 bucks in my currency

Yeah

Is that an MPLCE British rig or smth?

Yeah and its def cheaper in comparison with other rigs from the same website

I have an Alpentarn m70 jacket as well but wearing that terrarium on me in the summer would be hell

Yeh I should try and research more abt that rig

[small pine]

So I think the rig will be a nice addition for hotter weather

Yeah their newer variants seem more streamlined as well

[ashen edge]

Alice better

[pseudo marlin]

I am 128 currently trying to get my weight up while still eating healthy and going to the gym :[

I don't fit into a lot of clothes I would like to wear from 5.11

[mossy bolt]

how the weather up there?

fr. this summer sucks

[marsh flint]

I like it a bit chillier

[plush topaz]

Nice man. Keep at it

Lean af. Good stuff

[low fox]

Do any of you guys know how to make chest rigs or plate carriers from scratch

I recently bought a sewing machine and want to start making tactical gear so if anyone has suggestions or tips they would be appreciated

[plush topaz]

Plenty of videos and guides online

It's pretty easy from what I've seen

[low fox]

Finally done with adding stuff (for now…)

[muted lynx]

what rigs yall recommend?

[low fox]

I’m personally a plate carrier guy, but I absolutely loved running the Crye AVS detachable chest rig. It’s an absolutely solid rig.

[muted lynx]

i want something lighter weight, have armor taken care of

i'll look into it, i appreciate it

just want something for a different use case

[plush topaz]

Spiritus Lv-119

Light as a feather

[muted lynx]

so ya'll are just running PCs without plates as rigs?

fuck trex

but was thinking something like this

maybe a little bigger

[plush topaz]

I have plates in there

Ultralight lvl3+

[muted lynx]

i see

[plush topaz]

But yes. You can use it empty

[muted lynx]

that could work, but still may be more weight than im looking for for hiking/rucking and such, i'll have to look into em

[plush topaz]

Yeah I didn't realize you meant chest rig.

I also have a spiritus rig. I just never use it

You want it? Lol

[muted lynx]

i doubt i would either, but i've been looking at them, seems like it could be nice for the woods type stuff around here. seems to be what most people are wearing to classes and such

[muted lynx]

lemme look into em

i could just use my PC without plates, but i keep it ready to go. almost feel like i would be better suited with a different set up.

[plush topaz]

Yeah. I never really walk in the woods armed. If I do I just have my rifle and one magazine.

At classes I always use armour.

Important to train with that extra weight

[muted lynx]

we have alot of great areas like red river gorge available to us here. a group of my buddies will go spend 2/3 days rucking out there. im hesitant if i would want to bring my plate carrier, with a ruck, and a rifle

[plush topaz]

Yeah too much weight.

[muted lynx]

seems like a rig would fit the bill better

[plush topaz]

But would be a nice challenge lol

[muted lynx]

i agree, but don't want to get caught making the realization that it's to heavy a day in and then im stuck with it

i was just thinking it would be nice to have one to grab instead of my PC

different use cases/etc

[plush topaz]

Ya good idea

Also gives. You good access to some stuff like flashlights knife whatever

[sand rover]

that's a micro rig anyways

not a PC

but also, f* T-rex

[muted lynx]

yeah, i put it as an example saying i didn't want another PC

[sand rover]

ah

[muted lynx]

was looking for someting more in that realm

[sand rover]

well get an expandable microrig then

there's about 3 options taht are solid, I did research like 7 months ago

the ones I looked at can be run standalone, or be run on a PC

and expanded, or trimmed down

[muted lynx]

yeah, was looking for brand recs

the spiritus ones look neat though

[sand rover]

I'd have to look again, but I know spiritus was one of the solid ones

for sure

[sand rover]

that's the one I got btw

the MKV

pretty great

(I accidentally got sent two ssshhh)

[sand rover]

there's also haley strategic

and I know the defense mechanism carrier system is pretty good

that one is as modular as it gets

[plush topaz]

@muted lynx you can swap placards between rig to carrier

Super quick

Inserts pouches and all

[sand rover]

ye, I have a MEPC with a spiritus MKV and all it takes is unclipping 2 clips, some velcro, and redoing 4 clips

and it turns the placard to a microrig

takes like 45 seconds

that reminds me I should set up that second rig sometime

[sand rover]

I need to get outdoor pants that won't make my wallet weep

lol

[timber fog]

Any pants are outdoor pants if you’re man enough

[sand rover]

mostly I just don't want parts that will soak in water n sweat, get heavy, and are rugged enough to bush hike in

[small pine]

You could try some of those alpentarn pants that went with the m70 jacket

A lot of those came with a type of material that prevents the pants from getting wet

Or just get long boots

[plush topaz]

Good pants are worth the wallet weep

My Arcteryx leaf pants are the shizzz

[sand rover]

Probably, but at the same time I've found so.e awesome edc pants here and there for less than 100 usd

While on the subject

0% cotton the play?

Or is a well formulated mix way better

[plush topaz]

Ripstop is always a mix I think

[snow scarab]

me with two 250 dollar plus pair of pants

[low fox]

Crye G3s will forever be worth the money

[coarse laurel]

I use crye G3 fields for garrison wear

[real thorn]

guys

to use with ranger green gear

what camo/color combat shirt to get?

i was thinking ranger green, DNC or DFL

[muted gate]

look at buying used too, its so much cheaper and most people arent hard on their gucci shit cause its mostly larpers

[muted lynx]

[tiny meadow]

So real

[snow scarab]

@plush topaz i don’t understand why y’all wanna stay here so bad. this area of the world fuckin sucks 😂

[plush topaz]

Where ya at

I'm in Jerusalem today at the wailing wall

[snow scarab]

kuwait

hotter than satans ass

[plush topaz]

It's illegal to drink in Kuwait. Obviously it sucks.

[snow scarab]

apparently they serve beer in the chow hall for 4th of july

[plush topaz]

But believe it or not the gulf states are some of the safest places on earth..... When they're not murdering each other lol

[snow scarab]

still a shithole 😂

[plush topaz]

Not looking forward to my August deployment. I'm more scared of the heat than Hamas

[snow scarab]

lol

[plush topaz]

Absolutely. Israel is nothing like those places

[snow scarab]

i got to drive a bradley for about 25 k through the desert today

that was kinda dope

[plush topaz]

That's sick

[snow scarab]

it’s still hotter than shit and a terrible climate

we had an apache fly over us mid drive too

my gunner didn’t get a video tho

[plush topaz]

No hotter than some southern US states. Should specify I was referring to Israel not Kuwait. Kuwait is death

[snow scarab]

i mean true, but not this early in the year

when i lived in cali it wasn’t 110 in late april

[plush topaz]

Ok you're in Kuwait bro. Peak desert lol

[pseudo marlin]

I don't know how people manage to survive in that kind of heat 😭

[coarse laurel]

Acclimitaztion

It’s not too bad when you get used to it

But it does suck

[pseudo marlin]

Its not normally real hot were I am from but recently we did get a heat wave of 110 and I was dying

[coarse laurel]

The shit that gets people are hot and humid places

[plush topaz]

They wear pajamas

But ya it's brutal. I'm Canadian I can't handle it

[pseudo marlin]

Mainly cold over there?

[plush topaz]

Depends where. But no matter where it cools down September to may

[old portal]

They kept us in Kuwait for about 2-3 weeks for “acclimation” on every deployment prior to sending us into Iraq. It was a miserable time. I’m convinced it was just to piss is off and making us want to fight anything and everything once up north.

[low zodiac]

💀

[worldly orbit]

anyone ever tried earmor M32 milpros MK3?

[worldly orbit]

agilite k19

[coarse laurel]

Hot off the press

Bruh wtf

[worldly orbit]

what

you cant show war in training?

[coarse laurel]

Meanwhile I show clips from “The outpost” when I teach ranger first responder

Haha

[worldly orbit]

here we watch ukraines videos

from 3rd assault

[worldly orbit]

fuck yeah

u know the latvian in it

janis laķis?

[coarse laurel]

Yeh

[worldly orbit]

he was my glock instructor

[coarse laurel]

Hell yeah

[worldly orbit]

dude is a fucking unit

sad though, he lost his family due to ptsd and shit after

i mean imagine going through something like that there

[old portal]

OMG

[plush topaz]

He meant chest rigs

[marsh flint]

Chest ribs

[muted gate]

Wait is he saying that they can't show war movies to ranger classes?

or is this BCT?

[coarse laurel]

Funny enough 30th AG

It’s just circulating around Moore

[muted gate]

brother what

[marsh flint]

Funny that our fucking staff instructors recommended us to see like Full Metal Jacket and other war movies

[coarse laurel]

Fr

[marsh flint]

We also watched one Finnish classic and analyzed the leadership and different type of leaders

Because the classic was based on true story written during war

And filmed less than 10 years after the war

Many of the actors participated

[tiny meadow]

Non trainers and quitters is wild, like do you not know what you’re signing for or are you just going ranger to get the little tab to fuel your brittle self esteem

[marsh flint]

It's a bit different there

We have a mandatory service

[coarse laurel]

This is why I didn’t do drill

I would probably end my career when I lose my shit

Thankfully the context behind this came from 30th AG and nowhere else

We don’t entertain this bullshit here in ranger

Most of those fucking kids who claim they wanna be ranger or whatever are usually the first ones to chicken out

[old portal]

Love it

[marsh flint]

I'm not too familiar with the different units. Rangers are like a bit tougher guys than basic infantry? Or are rangers the basic infantry

[old portal]

It’s light infantry with an amazing budget for training and equipment

[marsh flint]

Like we have infantry and jaegers

[coarse laurel]

Rangers are the premier light infantry unit for the US Army and is a part of Special operations command

[marsh flint]

Yeah I guess its pretty much same as the jaegers

[old portal]

Or synonymous with small unit leaders course. Both “ranger” but not the same

[marsh flint]

Yeah got ya

That's what I thought basically

[coarse laurel]

If there’s anything I learned not all units are equivalent to each other even though there are parallels

[marsh flint]

And USMC is like completely different army. And different tactics. I guess many Europeans don't know the difference.

But iirc usmc was established for the island warfare

The Pacific

[coarse laurel]

USMC is weird, they formed their own identity of being shock troops

[marsh flint]

Yeah

[coarse laurel]

Don’t let them fool you though they aren’t first to the fight like they want you to believe

MF’s still salty they never participated in the largest amphibious operation in Us Military history

Haha

[marsh flint]

And then you have navy troops. But like their only "infantry" is devgru/seals?

[marsh flint]

Hah oh yea

[coarse laurel]

They really don’t have infantry really, USMC is also under the dept of the navy

[marsh flint]

Yeah that's what I thought

Navy seals is just a small group, not too much related to actual navy?

[coarse laurel]

USMC maybe first to whatever location they are deployed to but they aren’t like Rangers/SF and 82nd/101st where they can be deployed anywhere in the world within 16-24 hours

[coarse laurel]

Small group with not a lot of oversight hence the reason why they are in trouble lately

[marsh flint]

Yeah

[coarse laurel]

They were able to operate without much scrutiny during GWOT but stuff is starting to come out

[marsh flint]

Yeah...

Like I said, the world was different 10+ years ago

Much different

[coarse laurel]

Green berets and delta are considered more professional because they don’t act like cowboys

Unlike seals

[marsh flint]

I know what you mean hah

[old portal]

Those dudes always on the shit list

[coarse laurel]

USMC is very good with PR not gonna lie

They convinced people about the whole first in last out thing

[muted gate]

so yeah, 30th AG reception had to put a memo out, because trainees were quiting after realizing what they signed for?

[coarse laurel]

More like a guidance, no memo as of yet

[muted gate]

im fucking flabbergasted

[coarse laurel]

Dude I remember when I went thru 30th AG they just had Blackhawk down on repeat

[old portal]

My god the world is soft now. I hope we never do have to initiate a draft. The ones scared of rated R war movies are the hardened warriors of today’s society…imagine the soft batch

[muted gate]

we didnt have shit, it was terrible

literally didnt sleep for like 5 days, got to our actual BCT unit, then didnt sleep for another week

[coarse laurel]

I spent a total of 3 weeks

At 30th

[muted gate]

i was done quick

[coarse laurel]

Shit drove me insane

[coarse laurel]

What were you?

I came in as a 19D

[muted gate]

dmd

[old portal]

I sat in 30th AG for 3 weeks. All day sitting in the floor of the bays in the old gray PT sweats not allowed to touch the bunks til lights out. No movies…just sitting

[coarse laurel]

They had us watch movies because when we got there it was technically still new year block leave

[old portal]

Homemade playing card decks crafted out of pen and paper

[coarse laurel]

And there were no civilians and a skeleton crew of drills and other cadre

[old portal]

That was our only entertainment for 3 weeks. Ya you only saw a drill when it was time for chow hall movement.

[coarse laurel]

Lol when they resumed regular operations we only had the blue book

[old portal]

The excitement was spray painting name and last 4 with stencils on duffels

[muted gate]

We had duct tape And printed labels

[coarse laurel]

My favorite was when they forgot about us about our initial OCIE draw, just lined up outside of the barracks with 2 filled duffels on our back and front in the rain wearing summer PT’s

For 8 hours after dinner chow

We weren’t allowed to move

[muted gate]

Did they have guys not get glasses for the entirety of BCT?

[old portal]

You have the gray/black PTs?

[muted gate]

Because we had guys like that

[coarse laurel]

And no drills or anything came for us

[coarse laurel]

I didn’t get mine until 3 weeks in

[coarse laurel]

I had the black PT’s

[muted gate]

We had guys go through the entirety of basic without ever being issued glasses and dog tags

[coarse laurel]

Lol that’s ass

[muted gate]

I didn't get gas mask inserts

[old portal]

Oh shit. We got the OLD all gray sweats. Got the gray/black at first unit

[muted gate]

See I really wish we had like an actual sweatshirt

not this stupid polyester piece of shit

[coarse laurel]

Fuck dude I have 4 more hours hopefully before I can go home

[muted gate]

give me like normal sweatpants and like a normal sweatshirt and I'd be happy as a fucking camper

[coarse laurel]

We are doing urban insertion techniques for RSLC right now

Shit is super slow

But we’re down to 25 students

[muted gate]

How long has left right now?

And out of a class of what

[coarse laurel]

52

Advanced land nav knocked out half

[old portal]

I’ve been in Arizona for 2 weeks for my new job certification. Took the final today. Fly home in morning finally. Miserable here. 114* today

[coarse laurel]

The star course is RSLC is harder than SFAS lol

[muted gate]

yeah I didn't pass mine, I'm dreading because now it's part of blc

[coarse laurel]

I’ve done the ranger land nav at least 6 times now

[muted gate]

So whenever I want to go for 5 I have to pass land nav

[coarse laurel]

Yup

It’s not hard

Honestly

Just learn to plot your points, don’t just dead reckon and know your pace counts

[old portal]

This to the T

[coarse laurel]

My job has me doing land nav in the dark every day

I got so used to it

[old portal]

If breaking brush go left of one obstacle go right of next.

Rinse and repeat

[muted gate]

My job fucking won't

in all actuality I probably just iterations down At some point

[coarse laurel]

I also take into account terrain hazards

[muted gate]

Oh trust me I already know that

[coarse laurel]

I plot waypoints if I have to go around shit like rivers and or whatever

[muted gate]

I refuse to ever follow a fire break ever again because that dotted line that said it was a fire break just emptied us into a fucking swamp

[coarse laurel]

Sometimes the juice isn’t worth the squeeze when ur forced to choose between getting wet or adding time to your trip

Plus I don’t know how deep that wet gap crossing is

Lmao

[muted gate]

Bro I was not having a fun time

it was a shitty photocopy map that we got, and basically 4 of my points were in one area then I had to basically follow a dirt road into the 5th point and then basically I thought I could follow a little firebreak directly N and it would get me to the main road where I could just get to the gathering point

yeah that was a fucking lie, the fire break that I saw abruptly ended and then continued with a printing error

so I was just trudging along the swamp basically just following grid north

Because I knew at some point I was just going to hit the road but it would have been quicker to literally just backtrack because it took me probably an hour to get through that swamp

[coarse laurel]

So the land nav course they use for BLC are self correcting

So it should help you

[muted gate]

Yeah ours weren't

self correcting I can do okay i've done it before but man bct landnav sucked

they put three points right next to each other i'm talking like 20 meters away from each other, and then didn't make them self correcting

I had one of those points

[coarse laurel]

Lol when I did BLC majority of my class were from 7th group or 3/75

[muted gate]

yeah I'm in the guard guy

they are not that high speed

[coarse laurel]

They made it slightly harder so there’s a learning moment there

Night land nav was fun

[marsh flint]

I'm glad we have conscription

All of europe should have

[old portal]

I remember night land nav at PLDC but I think we only did day at BNCOC/ALC or whatever they call it

[coarse laurel]

@old portal if they bring back conscription we’d probably have to start beating people again

[muted gate]

The more you two talk the more I am glad I did not go infantry

Or combat arms in general

[marsh flint]

You should be glad lol