irl-gear

[coarse laurel]

who you with

[blazing salmon]

you a ranger medic?

or a medic working with rangers

[coarse laurel]

medic working with rangers, im not 75th

[blazing salmon]

still cool tho sarge

[coarse laurel]

i like this assignment but it kills you

try 48 hour shifts in camp darby, then working the dz in airborne school and RSLC on the side

but i get all the schools opportunities

[blazing salmon]

hey sarge i got a good idea

[outer hollow]

Chill with the sarge dawg

[blazing salmon]

steal the ranger guidon

[coarse laurel]

funny enough

[outer hollow]

1-2SBCT

[blazing salmon]

biiiig fucking force of habit

[coarse laurel]

some folks here stole WTC's guidon which is the pre ranger dudes

[blazing salmon]

not intentional man

[coarse laurel]

and people got their pp slapped

[blazing salmon]

yeah

if i ever work with rangers im grabbing the guidon and fucking running

[coarse laurel]

they fucking stole that shit and planted it on the bridge outside of post

[outer hollow]

Oh yea ranger community has absolutely 0 tolerance for those games

[blazing salmon]

article 15 speedrun

[coarse laurel]

theres a reason why i take down the giant ranger tab in darby before we close down camp

because 75th dudes would steal that shit

[blazing salmon]

lmfao

[outer hollow]

75th dudes have this hatred for dudes that are tabbed but not in regiment lol

[coarse laurel]

lol they seethe because we wear tan berets but at the same time they cant complain because we do so much for them

[outer hollow]

We do training all the time with 75th here, cool ass dudes but they hate guys that are tabbed but not in regiment

[coarse laurel]

3/75 specifically

since im in moore/benning

[outer hollow]

I know they pressure you to go to ranger school since you’re there

[coarse laurel]

yup

not just that but JM

im studying for JM

[blazing salmon]

what’s JM

[coarse laurel]

jump master

[outer hollow]

I’m tryna go JM, I re up later this month for airborne

[coarse laurel]

going to liberty?

[blazing salmon]

i thought about going airborne

[outer hollow]

That was the plan, but think I’m just gonna drop my drill packet later this year. Prob do JM after drill

[blazing salmon]

air assault or airborne which one is better

[coarse laurel]

also 2ID is icky lol

im trying to stay away

from anything 2ID touches, ive had my fair share of experiences especially korea

[blazing salmon]

my instructors liked korea

[coarse laurel]

ESPECIALLY 2ID-ROK

[outer hollow]

Airborne is definitely harder to get, air assault almost every unit will send you.

If you have the option to go airborne do it. Air assault will always be around for you to go to

[blazing salmon]

heard there’s a lot of rucking tho

[coarse laurel]

were getting people straight from AIT here lately and they get sent to jump school after a few months

[outer hollow]

In what?

Airborne?

[blazing salmon]

yeah

[outer hollow]

Lmao no bro

[coarse laurel]

no

[outer hollow]

Just running

You run everywhere but even then it’s a slow ass pace

[coarse laurel]

airborne is easy rn, but it will test your patience because you will sit in that chute shed for a long time

[blazing salmon]

tf you runnin for ain’t you jumping out a plane

[coarse laurel]

we are 2.5 classes behind on jumps

due to weather

[blazing salmon]

my current 2 mile is 16 mins

[coarse laurel]

you'll be fine then

[blazing salmon]

used to be 21 mins beginning of basic

[outer hollow]

That’s good improvement

[blazing salmon]

def is

im happy since i do wanna be good at running

[coarse laurel]

Ft Sam gets you fit because you are in kit all day everyday

[blazing salmon]

my physical strength is not the best

i have no idea how much i can bench and im afraid to find out

[outer hollow]

Good thing the army gives you access to 24 hour gyms

[coarse laurel]

I probably wore kit more in fort Sam than I did doing osut in Benning

As a 19D

[blazing salmon]

my 5’4 ass could not carry some 6’3 infantry dude

i can however carry a 6’0 170 pound dude

fireman carry that is

[outer hollow]

Man I have a soldier who is 120 pounds, can’t even bench 45 plates and we’re in the infantry.

Don’t be intimidated if you’re weak

As long as you get better

[blazing salmon]

yeah that’s probably my strength as well

i can prob bench like fucking 60 lol

i can ruck and run

[outer hollow]

You’re a whisky yea?

[coarse laurel]

Iykyk

[blazing salmon]

yeah

[outer hollow]

Then think of it this way to improve yourself. One day you may have to carry someone who weighs 200+ pounds with their kit. Don’t be the reason for that person to die because you didn’t want to improve your strength

[blazing salmon]

you sound a lot like my infantry drill

[outer hollow]

Us infantry dudes get drilled the same mindset

[blazing salmon]

yeah we got a single drill here who was infantry

he be yelling the most

[blazing salmon]

ight im gunna head to bed, got a day of ISV’s tomorrow

im either gunna pass, or be recycled to charlie company beginning of whiskey phase

[coarse laurel]

This is me on a daily, sitting in the middle camp Darby in a truck

[blazing salmon]

seems relaxing

[outer hollow]

Boring af dawg 😭

[coarse laurel]

Ikr

[blazing salmon]

ight gn

[outer hollow]

That’s miserable

[outer hollow]

Night bro good luck

[coarse laurel]

Better than walking with the companies, I used to do that a lot

I walked with the companies and the walker RI’s. What sucks is my shift is 48 hours and the RI’s themselves only have 24 hours

Also I do my Med checks at 02:00

Doing it under nods suck

[outer hollow]

Yea that’s trash

Honestly thinking about reclassing, my knees and back hurt too much

[coarse laurel]

im looking into EOD myself, im honestly sick of medicine

ranger shit ruined that for me

[outer hollow]

Plus this is all I wanted to get before I reclass

[coarse laurel]

better do it soon before you rack more TIS

you'll end up at the point of no return

[outer hollow]

I know bro, I keep delaying it

But I do wanna go to drill but I ain’t tryna be a pog drill

[coarse laurel]

what u wanna do

[outer hollow]

Need that blue disc

I’m thinking like in the aviation field

[coarse laurel]

times tickin then

15T i heard is stringent when it comes to reclassing, im friends with 2 of the crew chiefs we have in this BN

and they told me this when i told them 15T interested me

[outer hollow]

Yea, I wish I knew about aviation when I first joined, would’ve went to be a door gunner

[coarse laurel]

they are busy as shit but they are having fun for sure

[outer hollow]

Ik their asses ain’t rucking anywhere

[coarse laurel]

4th ranger training BN has 2 flight companies so we're spoiled aviation-wise haha

our jumps are only uh-60 jumps and we do alot of spies/fries

and helocast training

[outer hollow]

Sounds fun

[coarse laurel]

the trick is getting that pog mos and going to group

even though they cut down 2k support jobs in group

still a good place to be in

i was trying to go to 7th group after this but my branch manager told me im going recruiting

[storm peak]

It's funny how you say pog but never deployed 💀

[coarse laurel]

everyone is a pog these days, the gravy train of deployments are over, welcome to peace time bois

[outer hollow]

I don’t say pog as an offensive comment. Don’t get so butthurt bro

[coarse laurel]

im lowkey hoping someone does some false flag shit so we end up in the sandbox again.....jk

ngl though rather go to war in INDOPACOM

than the desert

[outer hollow]

Just out of curiosity though how do you know I’ve never deployed?

Not like I took this picture of the Afghanistan pull out or anything

[storm peak]

Eib

Also spending a month in a combat zone doesn't really mean anything

[outer hollow]

So you don’t know what deploying means? Got it

Look it’s not a dick measuring contest. If you’ve never been deployed or have any badges or schools, it doesn’t make you less of a soldier. Maybe that’s how you’ve been treated idk.

Sorry if you’ve been hurt in the past by NCOs who’ve tried to boast their achievements/ experience on you.

[muted gate]

the fuck did i miss @storm peak

[muted gate]

no, fuck that

im not dying in some jungle of foot rot and bugs eating me alive

[coarse laurel]

I thrive in those conditions haha

[muted gate]

yeah but you are a psycopath

[coarse laurel]

I just hate sand

[muted gate]

currently waiting for a school date

i wanna die

[coarse laurel]

For what

[muted gate]

reclass

[coarse laurel]

What you reclassing to

Dude everyone is reclassing this year

This ARSTRUC is hitting everyone

[muted gate]

check DMs

[storm peak]

Guy calling peeps pogs

[muted gate]

dafuq

[outer hollow]

Didn’t call anyone a pog lol

Just said I want to go drill but don’t wanna be a pog drill. Want to have the blue disc when I do it

Gotta stop being so upset over a word man.

[rain hearth]

gear good for USEC ?
:3

[thick jasper]

[muted gate]

Get rid of the mc black

Just ew

Oh what the fuck i just saw the reflection.

[empty sorrel]

#airsoft is one more down

[rain hearth]

I know mc black is kinda mid but I like it

[rain hearth]

PGD ARCH is very airsoft

:3

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1192151536231526532/1216429626075644014/IMG_20231013_135112094.png?ex=66005b5f&is=65ede65f&hm=ba0132df9b0b3aa2865ac5ad0dd1605d043d441d053c2de9bff505be3797a7e2&

[thick jasper]

Doesn't it hurt when moving fast. Like the weight.

Or does it fit snuggly like a backpack

[rain hearth]

entirely plate carrier weight less than 6kg
it fits my figure well so I don't have any issues at time wearing this

[plush topaz]

It's the predator language self destruct sequence on his wrist Gauntlet

[naive maple]

i hate those mechanix gloves so much

awful when its cold or wet

[naive maple]

what level are these?

made where? does it say?

[thick jasper]

Ohhh I remember that scene now thanks

[rain hearth]

This is all I know
NIJ IV

[naive maple]

[snow scarab]

god damn yall get to keep your phones now?

[snow scarab]

why does that matter? it really doesn’t. being a drill is bad as it is, why tf would you wanna do if for infantry?

also calling someone a POG in and of itself is supposed to be an insult.

i know lots of non infantry types that are far superior at doing infantry shit than our own infantry

that blue cord doesn’t mean shit anymore

[chilly anvil]

Which unit?

[outer hollow]

Wdym do it for infantry? lol. You don’t “do it for infantry”. You can have infantry drills at non infantry units for basic or ait (I say non infantry because y’all get hurt by the word pog)

[snow scarab]

pog is literally an insult. that’s its origination

however 99% of what infantry does, all other combat MOS can also do

however infantry can not specialize as well at what other MOS do

[coarse laurel]

He’s in medic AIT

[chilly anvil]

That's sick, but like you can't expect a whole tactical rig for a medical-core, I mean that's just my view tho

[coarse laurel]

It’s training so they get outdated stuff

[chilly anvil]

Oh, so that's just a whole other story

[coarse laurel]

Makes sense because the blood labs can get messy, when I went thru I went with the same shit

[chilly anvil]

Are you in the army?

[coarse laurel]

Yup

[chilly anvil]

That's nice

[coarse laurel]

I’m also a combat medic

[chilly anvil]

How much do you usually carry with yourself in the field? Like with the medical stuff as well

[coarse laurel]

When I was in the line I carried close to 80lbs or more because of my aidbag and I had to carry the same combat load as everyone

But overtime I managed to shrink it down

I work at the ranger school down in fort benning right now so I normally just walk around the woods with my mystery ranch 3 day assault pack and my AVS chest rig

[chilly anvil]

That's pretty cool tho, idk why, but a part of me says its very heavy and impossible to carry, but another part of me says with some practice over time it'd possible

[coarse laurel]

You kinda just get used to carrying heavy loads

[chilly anvil]

That's sick, do you guys still carry the M4? With the Sig side arms?

[coarse laurel]

That’s why everyone develops some kind of back issue

Lol I carried both but here I’m supervising ranger school students so no weapons

[chilly anvil]

Oh damn, still pretty sick tho 😂👌

Btw, do you carry the AVS rig or the plate carrier?

[coarse laurel]

Both lol

[chilly anvil]

Oh damn

[chilly anvil]

Oh I get ya 👌

Clean set up

Which medical Bag/med kit do you carry?

[coarse laurel]

I keep mine as slick as possible, I only add shit depending on what I’m doing

[chilly anvil]

Ifak?

[coarse laurel]

Mystery ranch RATS

[chilly anvil]

Tbh, everyone should do that, over carrying can get you lacking in the field

[chilly anvil]

Damn, it looks at least like 15 lbs

[coarse laurel]

It’s 50lbs

Lol

[chilly anvil]

Damn 💀

I underestimated it

[coarse laurel]

It’s just packed super tight

It’s comfy to carry because of the back support

[chilly anvil]

What helmet do you rock?

I've seen rangers doing alot of em

From Ops core FAST to Mitch

So I wanna know like what's the standard that you usually see

[coarse laurel]

I have an opscore

[chilly anvil]

Ah, so it's ops core

Is it lvl 3 armour?

[coarse laurel]

Should be IIIA

Unless you have bump helmets

[chilly anvil]

What's the difference?

[coarse laurel]

Bump helmets aren’t ballistic and they are super light

[chilly anvil]

Hm, so like what's their use beside protection? Nods?

[coarse laurel]

People prefer them for airborne operations

[chilly anvil]

Oh alr, more lighter, easier to keep your head up

What's your rank, if you don't mind me asking

[outer hollow]

It’s an insult if you take it as one I guess. Sorry your vagina gets upset over a word bro bro

[coarse laurel]

e-6 lol

[snow scarab]

the original meaning of the word doesn’t change bro 😂

you’re the one reading too much into what people are saying and trying to be like “oooo army soft now”

nothing i said involves feelings, just a fact lol

[chilly anvil]

I added you as a friend,

[grand mountain]

Anyone lurking the chat rn active duty US army or was?

[empty sorrel]

Personally I would have told you to get one from mehler

And not Chinese plates

[grand mountain]

Also anyone have recommendations for a mini dot for a glock 43x in the 100-200 range for concealed carry

[coarse laurel]

Lol literally me and the rest of the folks that’s been talking since yesterday

[grand mountain]

I need patches for my kit and was wondering if these look like anything that people would actually use in the army. For flags, name tape, and the US Army tapes

[coarse laurel]

That’s really it, special units or certain jobs have identifier patches

And ofc unit patches

[grand mountain]

Yeah, moreso asking if those specific patches are something you'd actually see

[night mural]

Are you guys still allowed morale patches

[grand mountain]

Like if they look like real ones or ones that someone in the army would actually use

[coarse laurel]

Hell nah

[night mural]

or did they decide it wad too much fun

awww

[grand mountain]

I also need a rank patch but idek what the fuck rank I wanna larp as

[coarse laurel]

Yes except the flag, not a lot of people use those IR flags

[grand mountain]

Anything above like E-3 is too much for me because Idrk shit about the army lmao, I thought about E-4 just for fun

[grand mountain]

Are they AR compliant and some people actually use them or is it just not allowed?

[night mural]

“idrk shit about the army”
pfc lol

[grand mountain]

I know the combat shirts use the subdued patches but I am somewhat a fan of the IR ones

[grand mountain]

I could larp as a butter bar

Basically the same knowledge level kek

[night mural]

actually that’s better yeah

[coarse laurel]

Availability

[grand mountain]

I don't have the ego to larp a butter bar tho

To be a butter bar you have to think you know shit

I freely admit that I don't

[grand mountain]

Gotcha, I'll grab those then I suppose

What do the subdued flag patches actually look like? I need a larger one for the front of my PC

Also how many name and "US Army" tapes do you actually need? Just 1 for the shirt or is there usually one on a plate carrier/helmet too?

[coarse laurel]

Just for the shirt

[compact dagger]

While talking about patches, i got bamboozled by getting a KFOR patch

On pics it looked small, like an actual uniform patch, but i got one size of a coaster

[night mural]

congratulations

you got a coaster

[compact dagger]

if it wouldn't be a nice memorabilia patch i'd just use it as a coaster

[naive maple]

huh? you were in KFOR?

how old ARE you

[coarse laurel]

My patch wall is full

[compact dagger]

im young

KFOR is still a thing yknow

[naive maple]

[compact dagger]

?

[naive maple]

in my head its a thing people did in the 90s

[compact dagger]

Also I love how Americans don't care about "thank you" plaques, they just copy pasted Polish contingent one, except 1 line

The line right below it mentions Polish Warsaw batallion

[naive maple]

kek

[compact dagger]

which we were in no way affiliated to

[naive maple]

yesthank you for your valuable contribution

we value it so much we copypasted and didnt check

[compact dagger]

except both of us being under american command

[naive maple]

but theres always that undercurrent, like thanks for giving a token force contribution, we couldn't have done it without you (we could have with our hands tied behind our backs)

[compact dagger]

and by the time i told it to our LT, the company commander said "meh they wont bother printing out another one"

[compact dagger]

yea, but at least we get to "deploy" somewhere

and do stuff that is kinda meaningful

and not just running around forests wasting blank ammunition

[naive maple]

yeah i guess so

i could have gone to lebanon in 2006 if i had tried to

but tbh i didnt

[compact dagger]

That and you earn more than double the money when you are deployed there, and on top of that you have a ton of time to go to gym and whatnot

On one hand it would be interesting, to say the least, to deploy somewhere where you get actual danger to life

But on the other hand, you might aswell die on first mortar strike to the base

[naive maple]

this was a maritime deployment anyway

[compact dagger]

plus NATO ain't involved in any actual conflicts where we could deploy to

[naive maple]

they were in no real danger

[compact dagger]

so no way we'd get deployed

[naive maple]

the only possible danger was if hezbollah mistook them for israeli boats

[compact dagger]

except KFOR there are a few others that i've heard mentioned, but those are mostly for Captains and up

but if anything goes up the main military base contingent of the country will get first dibs on it

i just hope to be able to deploy on next rotation to KFOR again

at least now we got combat belts where i can put most of our shit onto

[flint helm]

Vityaz-S Helmet, tarkov needs more russian visor helmet

[blazing salmon]

it’s called AIT

[blazing salmon]

A co 232

[coarse laurel]

Lol long AIT’s have a lot of freedom

If you think that’s wild you should see the 35 series folks

[blazing salmon]

i knew a few 35 series back at Sill

from basic

miss Bravo Battery

[snow scarab]

lucky bastards

[coarse laurel]

Dude I did osut and AIT

That shit sucked haha

Medic AIT kinda sucked because you spend all that time studying

[tiny ruin]

Damn that looks cool, but for some reason since the glass is separated - it almost looks like a nerd version of the helm lol 🤓

[marsh flint]

I said this same thing

[blazing salmon]

@coarse laurel passed my ISV’s today

[thick jasper]

What's that?

[flint helm]

lol

[night mural]

oooo

[untold scaffold]

Anyone know where I can sell this for 900k?

[shut escarp]

Impressive but ultimately kinda worthless.

[untold scaffold]

I was joking 😭

[last moat]

LOL

[shut escarp]

The joke is you xD

[untold scaffold]

😢

[cobalt bramble]

Where did you get that

I want one

[night mural]

It’s the website pic

https://badgerhoundsupply.com/product/kino-gondola-patch/

[cobalt bramble]

Thank you

[slow pendant]

lmao, gruppa gond

gondola group

[naive maple]

arch?

[last moat]

?

[naive maple]

i was asking if it was the pgd srch

arch

[last moat]

i don't understand i don't speek inglant amerika

[naive maple]

[plush topaz]

Great tank

[last moat]

betah!

Bro that thing big

[blazing salmon]

individual skill validation

example, packing and wrapping a gunshot wound, applying an SJT, performing a surgical Cric, converting a tourniquet to an emergency bandage

[slow pendant]

Is it an SF or an XR???

[worldly orbit]

Why not simply enlist?

[compact dagger]

because then it isnt larping anymore

[crisp crystal]

@jovial lynx

[grand mountain]

i couldn't enlist if i wanted to

i'm ineligible for both enlistment and the draft

[slow pendant]

Same lmao, my eyesight is crap

[coarse laurel]

You can do both

[compact dagger]

Well if you roleplay as yourself is it really roleplay ?

[vague mesa]

Based

[chilly anvil]

Ngl, Shi looks straight outta tarkov

[plush topaz]

🤮

Sayeret haruv gtfo

[low mulch]

sheket golanchtick

[blazing salmon]

@coarse laurel passed CCA. now only camp bullis. im chillin now

[coarse laurel]

Grats

[blazing salmon]

yessir

[plush topaz]

Nahlawi

[last moat]

lol

[last moat]

lo evanti ma lo kaha akol beseder lo?

[plush topaz]

Kfir is kaki

[shut escarp]

??? the plane or?

[plush topaz]

The infantry brigade

[shut escarp]

ah okay xD whenever somone mentiones Kfir i first think of the fighter jet

[marsh flint]

I think of that drink

Kefir

[shut escarp]

that's my 2nd though tbf xD

[low mulch]

golani wishes

[sudden depot]

It’s very high quality

A lot of the more elite Russian units are starting to get them

[muted gate]

yeah

VKBO 3.0

its being made in china so its ending up in vietnam

so funny story

we found out about VKBO 3.0 really quick cause like the first production was making its way into vietnam

my buddy who i get granite B from was like "the fuck is this shit" and we found out it was VKBO 3.0

nah

[plush topaz]

That is more because of heat

[last moat]

ata mesahec be tarkov? anahnu yaholim beyahad

[plush topaz]

Ani be miluim ahi

[last moat]

woow toovv

[ashen edge]

Want some for a better vatnik kit

[last moat]

mehace otha)

[ashen edge]

Already got a Amazon/ Ali express EMR soft shell just need some similar trousers

[muted gate]

i need to get some

but i have no gun to use

i really need their 416 handguard

[sudden depot]

There’s some funny patches

[muted gate]

i know, i just need to A. get a supplier and B. get a gun thats kosher

[slow pendant]

is the quality good?? they look sick asf so i might buy a shirt lmao

[muted gate]

no clue

[slow pendant]

hmm i guess we'll see in 6 months when they end up on ebay

[low fox]

Multicam is replacing every nation specific camo at this point

Very sad!

[naive maple]

@plush topaz ordered a cadex mount

[tawny bane]

Multicam only in special operation territory

EMR still is official ruaf camo

Its hard to explain but we have army who fights this is who sign a contract

And 18 years old guys who must serve in army for 1 year

[tawny bane]

This guys use EMR

[tawny bane]

This guys use multicam

[coarse laurel]

Fucking copycats, now IFF is harder

Just gotta aim at the Z’s now

[shut escarp]

O's, V's and anything orange

[naive maple]

no no that's normal

you have conscripts and professional soldiers

same in many other countries

[marsh flint]

They are adding/activating conscription in many european countries

For some reason

[plush topaz]

My man. How much is it in USD?

They're so expensive in Canada. Like $600?

[naive maple]

i bought it from canada

cold harbor asupply

[compact dagger]

yea, some reason

Probably the same reason our government is planning to put up mines on our eastern border

[plush topaz]

Beauty

They're the best

[marsh flint]

Jesus 😅

I understand

[compact dagger]

I was wishing for mines for when another country similar in name to the first one I was alluding to was sending illegals through their border into EU, if some legs were popped off then they would not come here, but then again, international scandal and other stuff like that would arise

At least allow us to hit them with batons from our CRC equipment boxes

But maybe my methods are too "cruel" and that's why i probably won't get into positions of power

which is a good thing for some other people

[marsh flint]

You are not the only one jokingly recommending solutions like that

What Ive seen online

[last moat]

I made it by my self with plastic bottle (taglia hammer)

[naive maple]

aaand it shipped

theyre so fast

[compact dagger]

who said jokingly ? At the point where we were stopping 30 people a day it got annoying and it wasnt a joke anymore

At least allow us to use batons, don't let Sigma squad have all the fun

[marsh flint]

They were transported to our border too. And given bicycles (??)

[compact dagger]

bicycles would be useless here since the ground is soft, and they'd just sink down

[marsh flint]

Like arabs would cycle their way from siberia. With kids bikes. In the middle of winter

[compact dagger]

and if you get on the roads youll get spotted instantly

[marsh flint]

Oh they werent trying to hide

Poor people.

Now there are hundreds of bikes at our border stations

[compact dagger]

Unlimited bike glitch

[marsh flint]

Not even kidding

[compact dagger]

Let border guards to sell the bikes to sponsor the bortder guard more

[compact dagger]

what class and how much

[naive maple]

level 4 standalone of course

https://protectiongroupdenmark.com/shop/6-hard-armor/20-side-plate--nij-level-4-iv--pgd-u-line/

[compact dagger]

184 for 1 or both ?

[naive maple]

1

[compact dagger]

the pics make it look thicc as fuck

at least compared to the ones i have

[naive maple]

yeah its pretty thicc

[marsh flint]

Wait what

Very inexpensive

[compact dagger]

well they are just the side plates

[marsh flint]

I paid half that price for my rubber training playes

Yeah

[compact dagger]

if wouldn't be lazy to take them out i'd take pic of mine

[naive maple]

take pic of your setup instead

[marsh flint]

👍

[compact dagger]

pretty sure i sent it before

yea its this

still no pouches on

once again, cant be fucked enough to transfer from old carrier to this

[marsh flint]

It looks very clean

[compact dagger]

brand new

[marsh flint]

Yeah

[compact dagger]

im just happy that we got the belt issued too

[marsh flint]

Oh

Id be too

Gotta buy me a belt soon

[naive maple]

i was about to say but hwere was pouches

[compact dagger]

this thing also has kevlar inside, so even better if/when war starts here too

[naive maple]

yeah it looks like a BALCS cut or something

[compact dagger]

idk tbf

dont even know what that is to be completely honest

plus now i'll be able to put a pistol holster on the belt

[plush topaz]

Wow. That's serious side armour

[plush topaz]

Unless it's shot show. Then they're Mia for a month lmao

[snow scarab]

it’s just soft

[plush topaz]

But thicc

[snow scarab]

maybe

[naive maple]

it's level 4 ceramic...?

[snow scarab]

the carrier itself is just soft

[plush topaz]

But the side plates?

They're huge

[naive maple]

there's not any padding, there's just a textile wrap on the plate

actually

there's some kind of anti spall thing on the front

weird, the front/back plates don't have that

[marsh flint]

Side plates too Gucci

I wonder how much fully plated carrier weighs

[snow scarab]

i’m talking about soft armor numb nuts

[naive maple]

okay, well, this isn't soft armor, they're level 4 standalone plates

[snow scarab]

holy shit nevermind

i guarantee your carrier has built in soft armor

that’s the initial shape of the armor, is the soft armor

hard plates are add ins

and that’s just a standard BALCS cut

[marsh flint]

Why my autocorrection is so shitty

[compact dagger]

after you said this I went and weighed mine

Just the carrier is 10.9kg

[marsh flint]

Hmm okay

👍

[compact dagger]

well "just the carrier" as in with all the hard and soft armor inside

[marsh flint]

Yeah

Then adding some mags and pouches

[compact dagger]

yea

i'm not looking towards some training where we will also get radios, batteries for them, maybe some ammo for the LMG guy

and bunch of other stuff

cant remember the weight of a full mag of 556 tho

[naive maple]

no it doesn't

you're looking at the wrong picture

[compact dagger]

according to quick google search 200r is 2.5kg, so another 3kg on top in just mags for the gun

[marsh flint]

I got 2,5 kg rubber plates for training. 1 kg plates seem to be typically sold out.

[naive maple]

he replied to my pic of a couple of side plates

not the soft carrier pic from the other guy

[marsh flint]

I mean what good it is to train with unrealistically light plates

But then again some get them just to keep the carrier on it's form

[compact dagger]

throw in some car brake disks

close enough weight

downside is that its a big circle

[marsh flint]

Yea I mean 1 kg plates are kinda stupid

2,5 is a bit closer to real life

But then again there are people just larping

And airsofting

Not even training for real combat

[compact dagger]

not that many ways to train for real combat tbh

Unless you're an american and have enough land on your property to fit a small country in it

[marsh flint]

True

We have good ranges here though

They are planning a 2 km range too

I just hope eu doesnt fuck everything up with lead ban

[compact dagger]

well just point shooting at targets or maybe a bit of running and then shooting isnt really it

Unless you got some si-munnitions that are less lethal and are fine with getting shot at you won't really learn much after some point

[marsh flint]

Oh you get to train combat here.

Even as a reservist

[compact dagger]

well you mean as going to big unit(or other size group) training ?

Or youi mean as some random guy can go sign up with other random guys to train at X thing

[marsh flint]

All kinds of stuff

[marsh flint]

I mean military instructed stuff

[compact dagger]

ah

[marsh flint]

Remember we have conscription and active reservist action

With gov gear too

[compact dagger]

to be fair would be nice to have that here, but whenever someone talks about remotely connected to civillian readyness a lot of bots and bitches come there and start spewing shit

[marsh flint]

But I get your point

In many countries it's just unorganized fooling around

Or shooting from prone position at circular targets

Well you can do that also

But that's not combat training

[compact dagger]

yea youi just go to the range and shoot at static ( very rarely moving side to side ) targets and people call it a day and think its enough

Like no dude, learn how to dig/make proper trenches

actual squad tactics and whatnot

[marsh flint]

It's better than nothing ofc but far from adequate

[compact dagger]

just shooting at paper which doesn't even fire rubber bullets at you aint training because you never notice yourself when you are in a bad position

yea

[marsh flint]

Rubber bullets would be a nice addition you are right

But they are semi hazardous

[compact dagger]

Multiple times during our trainings, especially if its something new, personally i think im doing good and doing stuff properly, but when an instructor comes he explains to me what im doing wrong

well yea, just something going towards you

like, you wont be sitting in a prone position shooting half of your mags out, because at some point whatever is in front of you will shoot back

even if not accurately, they still will

[marsh flint]

Yea you are blind to errors many times. That's why there should be multiple instructors and even instructing the instructors

[compact dagger]

yea

[marsh flint]

There are basic firing drills i've gone through like over 20 times

And still not perfect

[compact dagger]

like on the training i mentioned some time back when you get instructed to (Left Right Front Back) and have to return fire and get into the position, personally i thought im doing good, but turns out instead of using my hips to dig my feet in, im just dragging them

But for me thats a problem because I feel like I can't physically do that

whenever i try to do it with my hips it just doesn't work out for whatever reason

[marsh flint]

Hmm

So it must be a bit more exhausting

But if you perform the task still it's ok

[compact dagger]

Not "a bit" its very exhausting

[marsh flint]

Yeah

There are techniques

[compact dagger]

like 5 minutes of that, feels like half an hour

and after you check your watch you just want to die

[marsh flint]

I mean I'm not a drummer. Banging drums would be very exhausting for me cos I have 0 technique

But id probably manage to play for a while

[compact dagger]

especially hate when near the end of the "lesson" they start saying "hold" and shit just sucks, especially with g36 since its quite front heavy, and before i added foregrip my hand always slipped to magwell at the end, so had to do extra pushups for that

[marsh flint]

Oh

Oldschool training there man

I like that

[compact dagger]

I like it afterwards, like a few months/years down the line

Not during the training

[marsh flint]

[compact dagger]

Like when I was in basic training it felt like hell

looking back at it im glad it happened the way it did

[marsh flint]

It's not proper training If you don't hate it 100%

You're not gonna love combat either

[compact dagger]

except fucking sleeping in bags and heavy trenchfoot for everyone on the last few days of the "forest" phase

we literally couldnt walk the next day we got back to camp

[marsh flint]

Haha

Training the misery

[compact dagger]

yea, and that has been the worst one in my 3 and a half years so far

nothing has gotten even close to the last days in that phase in BCT

[marsh flint]

I was on one Squad leader camp for one week. It was late winter/very early spring like now. The first Day I dipped my foot into a sinkhole full of icy water. Groin deep

That fucking foot+boot didn't dry up whole week

That was shit.

[compact dagger]

yea can imagine

Also love how they scared us with going into water at the end

Where they tie you with a rope, you have to jump into a lake, say whatever needed to be said for them to let you out

most of us actually believed that youll have to jump in, but in reality they got you like knee deep in water, had to repeat to them what you have to say, but as you went into the water they just pulled the rope so you dont actually jump in

but to be fair at that point noone really cared about jumping into the water

[marsh flint]

Hahaj

Yeah

They train jumping from helicopters to water

Reservists too

It's harsh

[compact dagger]

damn wish we'd have that

at least for full time soldiers

[marsh flint]

Yea those are special troops

Not basic infantry

[compact dagger]

ah

i just understood that everyone gets that, even reservists

[marsh flint]

But yea reservists still

Depends on training too

I mean position

[compact dagger]

ah

I'm still debating on weather or not I want to change units

If I do I got offered better position

But on the other hand in this unit im in right now I got offered a comms position, but idk which one is better \

[marsh flint]

Oh

[compact dagger]

Only downside to going to a different unit is that i'll lose contact of people from the bigger town, and so far i dislike the town i have a chance to rotate to

since i've lived here my whole life and there's nothing to really do here

so it'd go fully from being at home, going to work, go home, sleep and go back to work

[snow scarab]

this is the picture i’m talking about. the only reason it would be shaped like that is internal soft armor as it’s BALCS cut

otherwise it’s just extra shit for no reason

[compact dagger]

wdym shit for no reason

[snow scarab]

ok yeah i realize now i was looking at something different lol

[snow scarab]

if it wasn’t soft armor then it would be useless

[compact dagger]

ah

yea its full of real shit

[snow scarab]

i was reading the wrong messages

[compact dagger]

not into larping myself

[snow scarab]

also not really. looks about an inch which is what ours are

[compact dagger]

only thing the other guy was talking about from my picture was about the cut

[plush topaz]

True. I wouldn't be able to close my vest with those lol

[snow scarab]

that just means you adjust the cummerbund lol

i’ve done it with both my issued vest and personal

[plush topaz]

I moved my side armour as far forward as I could so it basically overlaps the front plate

I had to find different tubes that stuck out enough to close it

[naive maple]

why

[plush topaz]

So I have better front coverage

Chances are I'll be facing the enemy when I'm shot

Not the side or back

[ashen edge]

also i would imagine if you are gettign shot in the back you are kinda cooked even if your plate stops it if they can get a second shot on you

the viginia militia member i mentioned yesterday ****

[low zodiac]

His larger weight means he can store more blood in his body

You aren’t on his level of operating

[ashen edge]

never will be sadly i want the built in 2A NIJ

built in shrapnel vest

[low zodiac]

He’s just big boned

You can achieve that body style, I believe in you

[ashen edge]

thank, i will try my best🙏 😔

[low zodiac]

Gotta get on that grind 💪

[muted gate]

ayyyyy its sturmi

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/539860515233464320/1050121092532031569/IMG_6782.png?ex=6604697a&is=65f1f47a&hm=9895e1e5484662e41508209c9c7d2f64d57d498a4c2baf4847a4a58d7be23c4d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=418&height=671

(not really, this dudes a german)

[last moat]

bro don't even need the gear XDD

hes fat will stop any bullets

and rockets maybe

[marsh flint]

lol

[regal grotto]

No wet kit or cold kit (will be dying in a cold trench)

[muted gate]

dude, sturmi is a fuckin meme

[regal grotto]

I wish I had that much money for a kit like that

[muted gate]

this mans is obsessed with DPCU

so he pays a shitload for bigounce sized DPCU

like in that pic he has 3 types of DPCU on

[regal grotto]

Crazy larp

[regal grotto]

Accurate representation to what would happen

"I have DPCU its good cam-ACK"

[marsh flint]

2k on gear is not that much lol

But it is a relative question

For this guy it's 2k too much

[hollow kelp]

https://www.ar500armor.com/rittenhouse-bundle.html

😂

[marsh flint]

What the fuck

Blue gloves and a market ar?

[low zodiac]

I drew what happens when he gets hit by a rocket

[naive maple]

thermobaric combustion from all the instantly rendered fat

[marsh flint]

My thoughts too

Man we are fkd up

[naive maple]

@plush topaz how did you fit your pgd arch

my fit is shit

[marsh flint]

I'm sure cannoli has seen a scenario like that irl

[marsh flint]

https://youtube.com/shorts/hP3PFooes0c?si=6gA77wLjL4GEQYgu

@coarse laurel agrees?

[coarse laurel]

Yes this is the only way to take care of that type of wound and you have to act fast

I say this because not everyone has SAM Junctional tourniquets

What I would personally do is use an Xstat if I have it just because it’s quicker and double secure the packed wound with an ETD followed by a pelvic binder, a belt maybe used as an alternative because if you get shot in the groin it also would mean a possible pelvic injury

[marsh flint]

good info

thanks

[grand mountain]

How I be gaming on Ready or Not (earpro and JPC acquired)

[plush topaz]

Like, on my head?

[low fox]

The power is out in my town right now for repairs, I’m totally gonna run around in the dark with my PVS-14 lol

[naive maple]

yeah

[plush topaz]

I barely made any adjustment.

Or you mean the pads?

I'll be home later and can show you how I did the pads

[naive maple]

both pads and harness

feels awful and wrong

like the pads are too big and it sits too high on my head

[tawny bane]

No plates?

[grand mountain]

There are plates in it yeah

[tawny bane]

Ah, ok

[grand mountain]

They're just foams tho

And I had to cut them down to fit since they were mediums so they look all fucked up

Those plates aren't leaving the plate bags till I get better ones because I don't want anyone seeing that Frankenstein shit

[plush topaz]

High cuts always look like they sit high

But the pads break in after you wear them a while

[grand mountain]

It is a high cut

[grand mountain]

I wish I was born into a billionaires family

I'd have such a good kit

[tawny bane]

Get a job

No negative

[grand mountain]

I get paychecks

Just not enough to do everything I want to do

I sadly don't make enough to buy real plates, comtacs, a ballistic helmet, nvg binos, etc all at once smh

[tawny bane]

Go to the army, you will get all shit for free

[grand mountain]

Couldn't enlist if I wanted to or I might lmao

[naive maple]

not look like but feel like

like the boa system sits too high

like a ballistic kippa

[plush topaz]

@naive maple send selfie

[plush topaz]

Me too

[plush topaz]

Doesn't high cut just mean the helmet sides are cut higher for ear pro? Or the helmet itself sits high

[regal grotto]

REAL!!!!

[cobalt bramble]

I think high cut generally just means the ear pro thing, but I could be wrong

[low fox]

Thermals > NVGs ngl

[compact dagger]

both have their uses

[plush topaz]

Yeah same

But he's right. I feel like mine sits higher than a normal cut helmet

It's the padding. Very thicc

But it helps with sweat. Keeps your head far away from the interior of the helmet

[naive maple]

[naive maple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5V9qYxITW0

[snow scarab]

well that’s just a problem with the pads. it should sit in the same area as a low cut helmet. eyebrow

[naive maple]

yeah i dont like the pad design

its too bulky

[grand mountain]

Yeah I was just making a funny

[naive maple]

my solution for now

[tawny bane]

No zenitco perst((((

[naive maple]

wrong!

there is a perst 3

[plush topaz]

Yes that's what I said lol

[tawny bane]

Oh dude

My bad

[naive maple]

i also finally figured out the harness, should really have fiddled more with this before complaining

its just i never use it so..

finally realized why people rave about this harness, it actually is really smart

[plush topaz]

Teach me.

What adjustment should I do?

[naive maple]

it's too stupid to even write, it's something probably you and everyone else realized as soon as you put it in

put it on

take the back part that has the boa dial and pull it down below the bump on the back of your skull, then the helmet sits like a comfy beanie

i just left it vaguely at the back of my head like on my team wendy helmets

which was terrible

[plush topaz]

Ok so loosen the dial first?

[naive maple]

yeah

[tawny bane]

I want balistic helmet so much, but idk i need it or not

[plush topaz]

Pull down then tighten

[tawny bane]

I am civilian

[naive maple]

pull the back part down and then also adjust the cables that go forward from it so that they sit in a natural path

then dial down

adjust it like the brim of a hat

instead of thinking helmet

[plush topaz]

Is that every time you put it on? Or initial proper fit

[naive maple]

idk i just figured it out now

[plush topaz]

True

[naive maple]

now im wearing it around the house to see if i can tolerate it

with a gopro extended all the way on the front to simulate the expensive toilet roll thats supposed to be sitting there

[plush topaz]

Ya keep doing that. Get your neck used to the weight

[naive maple]

need is for communists, you want one so you should have one

[tawny bane]

Damn, thats is good reason

I will buy a centry one

Not ops core

[naive maple]

[tawny bane]

Russian made lol

[plush topaz]

Everyone should have a ballistic helmet

[tawny bane]

WW3 soon

[compact dagger]

Do what 715 guys did, and hobo-mod it

they got 6b47 and justr cut the ear covers off

[tawny bane]

Cut the 6b47?

Thx no

[compact dagger]

glued the rails to the sides and they got a highcut helmet

[tawny bane]

Nonono

[compact dagger]

If we would be allowed to get our own helmets for use in the military i would've bought my own highcut, since ours don't have ear part going outwards as much so hard to put on earpro

but after cannoli talked about pads i remembered that i should take some of mine out

maybe it will make wearing earpro more tolerable

[compact dagger]

why not

[tawny bane]

Because of this, the helmet will lose its ballistic properties

[tawny bane]

For modern war you need helmet with ears

Or centry

Modern war is artilery war

A lot of fragments wanna kill you

[compact dagger]

I'll die anyways, so i'd rather hear what kills me, than have a shit helmet where i can't get earpro on with

[tawny bane]

With this logic you can fight without armour

Only chest rig

[compact dagger]

With that logic i can put a bullet in my skull as soon as war gets announced

[tawny bane]

With centry you can use headphones and have good protection

[tawny bane]

[compact dagger]

with what now

[naive maple]

to be honest im not sure why we're still doing the high cut helmet shit

its something they started doing 20 years ago to fit ear pro while wearing a helmet

why, in 20 years, do we still not have helmets with integrated ear pro and proper coverage

it's not that hard

[compact dagger]

plus I doubt that 64 square centimeters of additional material it would decrease chances of survival that much

well some helmets are made to fit earpro, if you compare those with just some highcuts then only difference is that you can flip up the earmuff

since in some situations you wont be able to hear through it compared to with them on

[tawny bane]

This is not shit

This is good when enemy dont have artilery

Maybe i talking shit, all my battle experiense it a tarkov and squad

[plush topaz]

My Howard leights fit very well under my old idf rabintex helmet

But the new harness on the high cut prevents that

[naive maple]

[echo jay]

probably because you are talking about integrating continuously evolving electronic technology into a ballistic helmet

[naive maple]

so make it a standard with replaceable electronics

ear pro hasnt changed physically for the last 40 years, it's just electronics, mics, and speakers

[pure tartan]

Cowboy-ish kit I'm missing the Big Iron and the Hat

Also a lever action would be better

[shy charm]

Twink

[ashen edge]

Out of pocket as fuck

[paper roost]

Looking for a NIR compliant plate carrier pack/modular assault pack. Needs to fit a 3l (preferred) or 2l water bladder, and enough space to fit a ponch and other items like extra ammo. LBT has one buts it’s 250+ and most everything is Chinesium stuff that probably glows under IR

Pic for reference

[grand mountain]

the $4,000 plastic twinkie

[grand mountain]

why would you want to carry a water bladder is my question

[paper roost]

Humans need water to survive?

[grand mountain]

nalgene

[paper roost]

That not enough

[grand mountain]

extra water bottles in your pack

bladders are extra weight, harder to fill, have to shift all your shit around to fill them, you can't filter them nearly as easily, bladder condensation can get your gear wet, they get dirty easily and can be hard to clean

and they can burst

also if temps drop the hoses like to freeze

[storm peak]

You know there are molle bladder holders right

[grand mountain]

Yeah

[storm peak]

https://atstacticalgear.com/slimline-100-oz-hydro-carrier/

Got this from work and it's uber nice

The issue with having like 10 water bottles in your ruck is that you have to fish them out everytime you want something to sip on

Nalgene carriers make the Nalgene bottle water slosh around alot which is ass for 12milers

[plush topaz]

Bladders all day

[storm peak]

Bladders and camelback all day

[plush topaz]

Where tf am I going to put a 3L nalgene on my vest

[cobalt bramble]

Eagle industries map pack

The go for about $90 on average for the khaki ones

But can for for as low as $70 for the coyote and as high as $350 for the aor-1 variants which are exceptionally rare

Ranger green ones very heavily

[tardy berry]

Looking like a would be school shooter

[pure tartan]

You should see my other kit also Its a 22

Not going to do much damage with that

It's more of a shift kit for camo although I would be wearing my multicam pants

[tardy berry]

You don't have the capabilites to even hurt a fly. And in a real gunfight situation, you would most likely fumble with your firearm.

[pure tartan]

That's why you train with your kit

[tardy berry]

lol

[pure tartan]

And yeah you're right the 22 is really more so for hunting purposes

[tardy berry]

bro, you are living in lala land

[pure tartan]

Until I can buy a more capable firearm with an AR or pcc

[naive maple]

someone get this kid some tren

[pure tartan]

I bought that gun when I was 16

I don't really care what you say I'm still going to train with my kit no matter what gun I have or what gear I have

[grand mountain]

Guys don't diss his "training", you civilians wouldn't understand

[pure tartan]

Lol wym I'm a civilian

[tardy berry]

Train what? On your own? If you are actually serious about becoming well versed in firearms and how to use them. Then join a group/range, with a trainer.

[grand mountain]

I'm making fun of you

[pure tartan]

Oki

[pure tartan]

I mean yeah I don't have a group right now but I do go to the range with some friends and shoot their guns and stuff

[tardy berry]

aiit

[tardy berry]

Do you have vids?

[grand mountain]

That makes a lot more sense for training yeah

[pure tartan]

No sadly recently I went to the range with three other guys and we shot an Aug, 50baowulf ar,some 45. Pistols, some 9mm pistols, .300 mag, and a shotgun but it was at a flat range so not really dynamic still a lot of fun

[tardy berry]

Aug

Jelly

[tardy berry]

What version of the Aug?

this or this

What you want is this

AG-3 F2

AG-3

[pure tartan]

A3 I think it had a eotech on it

[tardy berry]

we used ag3 from 1967-2021

no eotechs used on that afaik

the f2 build is the lastest one, till we switched over the to hk platform

Old

New

Talking Guns

Thicc boys moving on a rat hold out

[pure tartan]

Ok yeah 2 out of the 3 guys that I went to go shoot with where in the military

It was this or looked just like it anyway

Felt vary nice in the hands I was surprised

[grand mountain]

G3 my beloved

[grand walrus]

g3 is nice

i got an airsoft one that looks like the real thing

[plush topaz]

Post

[grand walrus]

was thinking either get a cheap real one or get expensive airsoft

airsoft better

I wanted the olive furniture but out of stock

i was looking also at a CETME american clone but people said they break

[plush topaz]

Nice. I say get cetme

[tardy berry]

sexy

[low zodiac]

brotha most domestic "gunfights" a law abiding citizen would get into consist of finding the most hidden spot in your house and waiting for the threat to walk into your line of sight

[empty sorrel]

So like playing tarkov?

[low zodiac]

No in tarkov the servers are so bad that ambushes don’t work

[left hatch]

'post "domestic" gunfight' i gotta surv-12 this crackheads bullet! :(

[snow scarab]

gross

arcteryx

[snow scarab]

texas? looks very similar to ranges i was just on earlier this year

also cyclic better

[snow scarab]

you norwegian military as well?

[hollow kelp]

https://lapolicegear.com/la-police-gear-level-iv-ballistic-armor-plate.html

Thinking of getting these plates they good?

[quasi chasm]

maybe get one and test its durability or something before you get em for an armor rig.

[plush topaz]

Those are Chinese plates fyi

[hollow kelp]

Yea but from videos they seem to be just like any other level 4 plate

[hollow kelp]

I’ve been watching a lot of videos on them and they seem like regular plates

[quasi chasm]

by the way, wtf is that pfp

[hollow kelp]

🤣

[plush topaz]

They could be. But it's important to be aware.

[snow scarab]

no

[fair acorn]

Get ESAPI 💯

[hollow kelp]

Shits expensive 😭

[hollow kelp]

Tru

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Not really

It's Chinese

If you are really destitute, go for an RMA 1155

But you can get sets of esapis for less than 700 that mog 99% of civilian plates

Just make sure that you get revision G or newer

[slow pendant]

Universal armor plates mog everything else for the price

Generic chinese plates really arent bad rn, they're legit level 4

[empty sorrel]

Let me guess, cheat ringed

[slow pendant]

What

[empty sorrel]

Cheat ring, where the outer inch of the plate is actually just foam

Either way, there's exactly zero reason to buy 8 lb Chinese alumina plate

[slow pendant]

Yes

I found footage of the factory

The ceramic doesnt cover the whole plate

[slow pendant]

Ye

[empty sorrel]

Literal garbage then

Wouldn't touch with a 10-ft pole

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The parts where the ceramic covers are legit level 4 tho, the other part is just foam

They weigh 5.7lbs per plate

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You have to take into account that it's 5.7 lb for what essentially an 8x10 plate, not a 10x12

If you take into account the coverage, it's actually heavier than an RMA 1155