irl-gear

[snow scarab]

not to mention m855 smoking steel plates out of m16s

[proud hazel]

Maybe a machine gunner in a defensive pos

[coarse laurel]

Maybe in the last war

[snow scarab]

ceramic technology has evolved too much for steel to even be in the same category of armor

issued ESAPIs are tested to stop 6 threats on one strike face. ON A MEDIUM. 3 shots of M2AP, 3 shots of 5.56 995

[narrow fulcrum]

ar500 is a joke but

have you heard of the ceradyne north ireland plates

there are whispers they made an xsapi for delta in 2020

and its the north ireland plates but much smaller and lighter

pretty sure its soft armor around a metal plate

[snow scarab]

i can guarantee you it is not lol

no portion of the US military uses metal body armor unless it’s a vehicle

[timber fog]

I love being a walking frag grenade too

[naive maple]

[narrow fulcrum]

@naive maple @timber fog @low fox @snow scarab

actually, spalling isnt that bad

[snow scarab]

no it is lol

you should watch a video on spall using ballistic dummies lmfao

or do it yourself

[naive maple]

I hope for your sake this is a bit

it's not funny though

[narrow fulcrum]

the multihit capabilities of most steel plates are superior to ceramic plates outside of select few contract only 10,000 dollar a set plates

ceramic and most composites also degrade with severe weather and can be compromised from falls much easier than a metal alternative

[ancient grail]

Is this satire?

Oh it's not satire😭

[raw river]

anti spall spray cant beat physics no matter how thick it is

isnt it just sprayed on rubber

[naive maple]

it is truck bed liner

psa owner tiers of cope

[narrow fulcrum]

u r running around with fine china on your chest dont @ me

oh no i dropped moms crockpot! guess ill die

[snow scarab]

fine china? are you stupid?

no need to answer, you run an airframe with comtac 4s on amp arms

that gives me my answer

[raw river]

@snow scarab watch this

@narrow fulcrum how far is an 11.5 ar effective to

120m?

[narrow fulcrum]

idk with mk262 it should be effective to 600m according to ussocom but 5.56 has a tendency to fall on its face at 500-600m no matter what you do

:^)

[raw river]

@digital tiger What did you take your ar to

1000m?

[narrow fulcrum]

its probably 6.5

[timber fog]

Yeah I heard if you microdose it enough you start to build immunity

[raw river]

Nope

[narrow fulcrum]

if i am about to see some mega autism ulr handloads hitting a 2ftx2ft target 1 out of ten shots i will sacrifice you to ba'al

[snow scarab]

out of an 11.5? lol

[narrow fulcrum]

actually with a 10.3, apparently

thats what the 77gr projectiles were designed for

extending the range of the cut-down mk18 mod 0 barrel

[digital tiger]

Which AR?

I took my 11.5” to 700 and my 18” to 1200

Both 556 by the way

11.5”

[raw river]

Oh I thought u just did it with your 20

[digital tiger]

My 20” is a Grendel.

[raw river]

Cringe

[digital tiger]

I’ve also taken that past 1000

[raw river]

Yea it's 6.5

[digital tiger]

It was back when I could use a rifle caliber to hunt. I wanted a long range semiauto

[raw river]

What are you hunting at 1000m

[digital tiger]

In Washington I could get shots on deer and elk out to 8-900

I wouldn’t. But 5-600 was very feasible

[digital tiger]

I went 9/10 with 77s on a 66% ipsc at 1000. Your info is incorrect. If went 10/10 with 55s at 520 on the same so the info you’re spitting is old military misinformation.

@raw river I do have a 20” bolt gun in 556…

[narrow fulcrum]

77s out of what and 55s out of what

the 77 is built for shorter cut-down government profile barrels

the 55 is for rifles with 16+ inches of barrel

[digital tiger]

Ran the 55s in the 11.5, 16 and 18 out to 520 but went 10/10 with the 16”.

[digital tiger]

The 77 is an amazing precision round.

[narrow fulcrum]

ive seen dudes use them for less wibbly wobble at longer ranges

[digital tiger]

But I took the 11,5 to 700 with 77s consistently. 1200 with the 18”

[narrow fulcrum]

yeah the 11.5 being able to go a bit further with the 77s is the point i think, m193 for 16in+ barrels and mk262 for everything smaller

[digital tiger]

You do realize all of the SPR types are running 262?

The shorties only run 262 because it will actually open up like it’s supposed to at lower velocities unlike the 55s

[narrow fulcrum]

isnt that a different thing than the mod 0

the mod 0 is the weird hollowpoint but not a hollowpoint that was originally designed for the mk18 mod 0/cqbr or whatever they called the upper conversion at the time

mod 1 was the precision match round

its also the most common sold now

[digital tiger]

The only difference is nosler bullet vs SMK

[narrow fulcrum]

point is i think 600m is a reasonable idea for where an 11.5 or similar sbr falls off

[digital tiger]

See now you’re going to make me take the 11.5 to 1000 just to prove a point

[narrow fulcrum]

yeah but there's tests and plenty of anecdotal and video evidence of 600m being the limit for effective incapacitation with that cartridge

in that barrel length

[echo jay]

Do it and post it you know you want to

[digital tiger]

It’s definitely going to happen at some point

[tiny meadow]

Lighter than I expected it to be

[rotund abyss]

@crisp basin

[neon gust]

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[real nebula]

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[narrow fulcrum]

actually now that you said it, possibly

but i swear the whole point of 262 was cause of the weird twist rate + cut down government profile original mk18s

but yeah I did a little more research and everyone and their mom uses it for long range spr type stuff now

also thanks for telling me the airframe and wendy is shit my mind is now full of fuck and ive gone full circle to believing the ach is the best helmet ever after diving down a uhmwpe is shit rabbit hole, dickhead @low fox

i dont even know what to buy anymore

i just watched a bunch of tests of the mt and sfs and while they seem to have slightly better ballistic protection the bfd is horrendous and many units dropped them for a no-name kevlar composite helmet made by busch

drilling my g24 into a pasgt as we speak

ok ok MAYBE ill consider an opscore if i can find one cheap

but the wendy and airframe look cooler

thats half the battle

[marble cairn]

Exepensive

Backplate deformed to hell but no pen

[tardy wagon]

https://www.flir.com/products/boson-plus-cz/?vertical=lwir&segment=oem

[tiny meadow]

Peltors on my current setup were crap so got a replacement

[snow scarab]

wdym they were crap?

fucked audio or what?

[tiny meadow]

Dead headset

Didn’t even turn on

[snow scarab]

you change the batteries? check the internal wiring?

i imagine you can just send it to 3M and they would fix it

instead of buying a whole new product

[tiny meadow]

Checked the wiring and switched out too new batteries

[snow scarab]

3Ms warranty is pretty fucking good

[tiny meadow]

They were dual comms so I can probably sell too someone tech savvy

[snow scarab]

just send them to 3M dude

[tiny meadow]

Specifically comtac 3’s

[snow scarab]

if they were USMC issue they would’ve been 5s i thought

[tiny meadow]

I got single comm comtac 5’s

[snow scarab]

5s are the only ones being issued across the entire military

as of like 2019

i mean, you can try that. but i would also give the seller hell for sending you dead peltors

[late turret]

^^^^^^

[left grail]

I want you.

[timber fog]

For US Army?

[tiny meadow]

68 jungle Jim goes hard

[storm peak]

nah dude

i got issued comtac 3s

[snow scarab]

you’re also SOCOM. most guys that need them while deployed are getting Vs

[rain hearth]

PGD ARCH + M32HC

[tiny meadow]

33rd black glass goes hard

[rain hearth]

[fast fiber]

new russian strelok combat equipment, russian multicam at last

[fast fiber]

apparently vkbo 3.0 had multicam too nvm

[timber fog]

They wanna be STALKER irl so bad

[fast fiber]

fr calling it strelok even

[timber fog]

Perfect for those trenches they dug in Red Forest I guess

[timber fog]

Had to look that up, it really does go hard

But if you mean my pfp thank you but it’s actually from something else

[snow scarab]

get better hearing protection

[tiny meadow]

Yea I thought it was that series

[signal horizon]

they lack enough ratnik kit so this will be interesting

[fast fiber]

yea

this ones by kalashnikov concern

[keen ocean]

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[real nebula]

Codes are to be redeemed on the Game Launcher.
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• IAMMIGHTY ||Patrol Rifle, SBR, T4 Armor||
• ARMORPLATES ||2x Armor Sets||
• RICHANDEXPENSIVE ||Assortment of Stims||
• LEFTHANDHEADEYES ||Assortment of Valuables||

[rain hearth]

no sir

[keen harbor]

didnt know i couldnt post memes sorry

[narrow fulcrum]

peltor isnt being issued by anyone now

3m is discontinuing the entire line

[snow scarab]

yes it is lol. it’s the basic issue hearing protection for literally everyone

[snow scarab]

LMFAOOO

[narrow fulcrum]

they got a massive lawsuit and now there is no more peltor

no joke

[snow scarab]

quick google search says otherwise

along with the comtac 7 being released

what lawsuit would they have faced?

they had an earplug lawsuit

[narrow fulcrum]

my 3m distributor told me about it a while ago when i was gonna buy my peltors new, theyre dropping the entire PPE lineup because they are facing a 7 billion dollar hearing lawsuit from the us mil and half of nato cause apparently people still went deaf with their earplugs and theyre being forced to nuke the entire earpro lineup and a bunch of other shit

the 7s are apparently the last ones and they are going to have warranty and support prematurely dropped once lawsuit is over

https://www.vfw.org/media-and-events/latest-releases/archives/2023/9/3m-lawsuit-ends-in-victory-for-veterans

eek

already ended

6.1b payed out

[snow scarab]

it’s just that specific line of ear plugs

your distributor is stupid

[narrow fulcrum]

tldr from how that case went down it basically made all earpro manufacturers at risk for being sued at any time

buy your peltors second hand

and dont expect a warranty or support

if you buy new

[snow scarab]

that’s not what that means

at all

it was just earplugs

jesus christ, calm down

[naive maple]

are you a troll or something?

the list of galaxybrain takes just keeps growing every day

[narrow fulcrum]

i mean, im correct and you guys dont happen to be in contact with 3m on a daily basis like me so its perfectly normal you guys dont know anything about this

i know it may be mind boggling to the average person, but typically when a haliburton-tier liability lawsuit thunderfucks an entire division (3m ppe) with a fine bigger than any amount theyve ever made on said product(s), the division gets shutdown and liquidated immediately

which is what 3m is doing

from the horses mouth

but im sure my 3m connect is lying and missed out on a 12,000$ ppe sale last month and convinced me to buy peltor, speedglas and papr products second hand because "he's stupid"

[naive maple]

[snow scarab]

lmfaooooo

sure bud

lemme call 3m right now

you would think it would be a pretty big deal, also 3M has made tens of billions from US government contracts alone since the 90s

plus other countries

including the majority of NATO

[narrow fulcrum]

you mean you're going to call the service department for equipment repairs ie; the only publicly avaliable phone number you have access to, and you wont get past the robot board

[snow scarab]

i get past it pretty often

i regularly talk to people that work at 3M

[narrow fulcrum]

for reference these are the heads at both the meridian and stafford springs 3m facilities stating this

and its getting past down to everyone including sales staff

[snow scarab]

then customer service should tell me the exact same thing right?

[marsh flint]

Oof

Peltor is fine

Sordins would be Gucci but I'm happy with my sporttacs

@naive maple what do you think about this headband cover

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/923935180916424774/1148313324828762132/20230630_025221.jpg?ex=6589c01f&is=65774b1f&hm=d2274d70e7d09877f875bfabbf67ce5cc2194350a2ad0b2862bd0354db55abaf&

[narrow fulcrum]

they literally stopped producing the 7s and everything being sold right now is distributor stock

if youre being issued peltors its probably because those are the last ones that everyone has unlimited stock of

[marsh flint]

So theyll be cheap in the future

Goooood goooooood

[snow scarab]

they might’ve stopped producing 7s, sure. but IV, V and VI are still regularly being produced

that’s also because nobody is buying the 7s

[marsh flint]

If the price is right

[naive maple]

fincam cool

[marsh flint]

[narrow fulcrum]

i hand that same thought

but people like them so much

it'll probably have the opposite effect

until us mil and nato is forced to liquidate their inventories of them

and then there will be 50$ comtac 3s galore

[narrow fulcrum]

no, thats all distributor stock

[snow scarab]

yes… that’s how 3M has operated their website for literal years

[narrow fulcrum]

yes but 3m isnt actually producing them, what you see there is the distributor stock and once thats gone its gone for good 3m isnt producing them anymore

[snow scarab]

3M rarely sells items to civilians or personal buyers

[snow scarab]

lol ok dude

still doesn’t make sense why 3M would fuck up earplugs and then discontinue their most popular product that’s the only reason they are open

lol they made 8.6 billion in quarter four of 2021 alone

i’m sure they are fine

[narrow fulcrum]

yeah and most of that is probably adhesives and scotchbrite and abrasives and tools

ppe is a massive risk after that lawsuit

and thats sales, not profit or even revenue

[snow scarab]

no it isn’t

they haven’t had a single lawsuit about peltor products

[narrow fulcrum]

once the precedent is set that end users to whom 3M has no association with can successfully file suit against them -despite 3M fulfilling their contractual obligations and despite the subsidiary admitting to designing the concept in the first place while also being denied to file it under bankruptcy next on the chopping block comes the entire peltor lineup and 3M is not waiting for "the largest mass tort multidistrict litigation in U.S. history." to become "the even larger largest mass tort multidistrict litigation in U.S. history."

not only that but your idea of sales, revenue and profit vs paying out a liquid cash waterfall at the drop of a hat is horribly fucked and not at all how a massive multinational business who has all of their cash in semi-fake smaller businesses and the real estate they sit on thinks or works.

6.1b RIGHT NOW is a company shattering shitstorm and they have been ordered to pay it immediately which requires liquidating assets because nobody has 6.1b lying around for the off chance the thing meant to eat the liability (bankruptcy courts and multiple companies and subsidiaries to take the hit before 3M) are rugged out from under them

[naive maple]

[narrow fulcrum]

ok speedsofter next time ill post a garand thumb short to keep you engaged

[snow scarab]

ummm, you know 3M has been sued before for earplugs right? also they are just the parent company to peltor. peltor is still its own company. just like gentex is to opscore

[narrow fulcrum]

which is just like how aearo was to 3m.

literally the exact situation

and now they have a precedent setting case that says those companies and their liability pools no longer matter

are you starting to see the problem here

the only possible solution to this problem for 3m is prematurely ending the peltor line and declaring bankruptcy for peltor before the liability lawsuit hits so they can't be snaked out of bankruptcy courts like with aearo

[snow scarab]

stop selling their single most profit earning per piece item and the thing that gets them the most government contracts and made them worth 60 billion dollars?

like i said, they’ve already paid out billions before

i think it would be a pretty big deal if they liquidated and shut down peltor. it would be fucking everywhere and companies would be killing each other to get government contracts

[naive maple]

okay, fine, since you want your drivel to be taken seriously so badly

they have reached a settlement, they will be paying out this suit regardless of whether or not they sell the peltor business or not

why the hell would they sell a wildly profitable business unit because of a suit regarding ear plugs sold 20 years ago

the settlement has been reached either way

[narrow fulcrum]

peltor is one of a million products, the company does everything from vinyl wrap to epoxies to water filtration also they only revenue 32b annually which means god only knows how much they profit probably something like 1-5b realistically

[marsh flint]

What were the earplugs?

[narrow fulcrum]

not peltor

[marsh flint]

Another reason not to fucking wear only earplugs.

[naive maple]

there is a negotiated settlement, those 6b dollars will be paid out over many years

they're not going to go bankrupt over this settlement

[marsh flint]

I used peltor combat arms earplugs under my sporttacs and I felt that I should have foam ones under them instead lol

Muffs were enough safety wise

Been thinking about surefire but then again not sure of the sizes with those cone type plugs

Pine cone

[narrow fulcrum]

of course there is a payment plan but within the confines of a business like 3m you are talking a state mandated payment plan vs how that money would be typically generated or loaned which is a business loan or bankruptcy and those are much easier to deal with financially

its a massive hit and theyve basically been told outright peltor could easily be next

l3 is also kinda small, 3m is a different animal in comparison

Nah def not

You want to see 3Ms biggest profit earner?

this

[timber fog]

Exactly. And with all that profit, they’re not trippin off a $6b lawsuit. Drop in the bucket for a megacorp like them

That said, mil contracts still make them too much money to stop taking them up

It wouldn’t make any sense to quit because they took a relatively small L in comparison to the grand scheme of things

[lusty birch]

Breach/pvs14 there is no hiding

[naive maple]

based

[feral monolith]

Le SE 5

[obsidian lion]

heyy i got dat

[narrow fulcrum]

have u considered a jerry

if so why did you decide on breach

[deft pond]

cringe hearing defenders

if your dropping that coin just get a comms capable one

[lusty birch]

I got the breach for like 600 off on sale I was wanting an i-ray but for the price I couldn't say no the the flir

[night moss]

Hello

Anyone follow me here?

[snow scarab]

probably not. bye bye

[atomic jungle]

Found out one of my family members has a golden star irl

So small

[marsh flint]

[atomic jungle]

Backside

Pharmaceutical factory Hanoi

[marsh flint]

Cool

[harsh crown]

What spells will he cast?

[marsh flint]

Oh that silly rod

Japanese used em

[ashen edge]

Boom stick fr

[wind cave]

tuff

[ornate panther]

Damn… kindergarten has changed from stickers to golden star buttons

[ionic forum]

Casts 1 grain of sand into your AR bolt group

[open forge]

.357 magnum and .45 acp

Makes fun and its not that expensive like my .50 or mauser 8x57js cartriges. And then some. 22lr. .22wmr and 308 guns but thats standrat stuff. .357 magnum is not that often used in my near ranges

Zhe leaver is a winchester made in japan

[harsh crown]

He counters by having one already in the chamber

[open forge]

hups i see wrong channel iam sry

[slender lintel]

virginuis infinitus

[open forge]

Looks like a combat mage with some heal abilitys

[wind cave]

Nodsicus homoerectus

[sturdy sparrow]

planning on getting one of these 9mm rdb cmmg subguns, and i was just thinking about how cool one of these would be in tarky

[tawdry pine]

9mm ar's are useless, only to have fun shooting HANDGUN rounds that can be shot in a HANDGUN and train with it, in a rifle wich makes no sense instead get a 300blk sbr

[sturdy sparrow]

but sir, you see, 300blk ammo is 1$ a round, where as i can train with 9mm for 20 cents or so, even 5.56 is is 70 cents a round unless you buy in bulk, in which case it's still about 50 cents

good 300 blk subs are like 1.70$ - 3$

[tawdry pine]

yeb but shooting 9mm isnt the same as 300blk

or 556

so when you get a stanag mag in hands is not the same

it depends on what you wanna do

fun = ok

training = no

[sturdy sparrow]

the 9mm mags from cmmg are stanag mags

also i can use my ar lower and practice not recoil control but weapon manipulation

not to mention you can shoot steel up close without ruining it

[tawdry pine]

weapon manipulation do dry fire

https://mantisx.com/products/blackbeard-the-auto-resetting-trigger-for-ar-15

[sturdy sparrow]

you can practice a lot more with real ammo, 1 to 1 drills, longer drills that incorporate mag changes, not only working on accuracy, but footwork, weapon manipulation and the combing of it all to practically train

dry firing is great, but not the end all be all

and if my ammo budget is 50$ a week, then i can have 250 rounds to train with instead of 60 or so 5.56, or like 30 300 blk

[tawdry pine]

no money = no fun

[timber fog]

No, but it’s the same platform with all the same controls. It’s not hard to see how it would transfer

[naive maple]

9mm pccs are great for shooting indoors and indoor matches

[marsh flint]

Kinda tempted to get a foliage green belt

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/us-combat-belt-foliage-green-surplus/75164

The color is so funny

[barren pebble]

FG goes hard

[marsh flint]

Haha

[full musk]

joi the army get some for free :D

[sharp vector]

Cheeky breeky

[snow scarab]

lol

[full musk]

its a great recommendation

enlisting is slept on fr

[naive maple]

no one should enlist in the united states armed forces in current year

[snow scarab]

no you should. realistically you are way more likely to do your job within the next 4 years lol

[naive maple]

[timber fog]

All the more reason to not join

I’ll wait until someone makes a move on US soil

I’d rather die for my people than for some lobbyists’ foreign interests

[marsh flint]

Yea Ill enlist because of that exact belt

[snow scarab]

lol what

if you enlist and aren’t prepared to do your job, don’t join in the first place, you aren’t wanted

[wind cave]

Can you explain?

[snow scarab]

just look at the world climate

that’ll tell you everything you need to know

[wind cave]

But why would it make you more likely to do your job

I just hear all types of different things from family of when to go so im asking

[wind cave]

I just mean in response to this

By do your job do you specifically just mean deploy

Or do you mean do your job like any other job you have in the military

[snow scarab]

if a war breaks out, you gotta do your job hard and good as shit

i’m mostly speaking about combat MOS

[timber fog]

I thought Starship Troopers taught us that there’s more to life than just “doing my part”

[winged sorrel]

GUYS

[snow scarab]

yeah? but you shouldn’t join a military and then be scared that you might have to do your job. you should be 100% prepared to do your job

[timber fog]

Or you should just not join the military

And not put your life on the line for a politician’s personal gains

My own opinion personally

[full musk]

It’s not all for a politicians personal gains

You are simple minded if you think those are the only people involved in decision making

[full musk]

Truth and to be honest with what’s going on rn it’s gonna be game time soon enough

[full musk]

The day another country has boots on ground in United States land there will be nothing civilians could do to stop whoever it would be, Red Dawn is a great movie but they don’t have air superiority in that movie ❗️

[full musk]

Hey man I mean buying uniform items is one step closer

Your almost there

[timber fog]

As a civilian I wouldn’t have to worry about air superiority, everyone in the military that was at least smart enough to stay stateside will have that covered for me

I just have to worry about myself and my community

[tiny meadow]

Thought that was grey 😂

[full flower]

Anyone know if 5.11 trainer shoes are good budget option?

[wind cave]

I think everyone agrees with that but also knows it’s not that simple

It is also is for your family, neighbors, etc all that corny stuff it’s still true

[naive maple]

it isn't

you can help your local community directly in far better ways than signing up for the armed forces, which have been reduced to a blunt instrument for questionable national politics and being involved in irrelevant foreign conflicts

sign up for the local search and rescue volunteer group

volunteer fire fighters, forest fire fighters

[cinder stream]

This is rich

[full musk]

You don’t understand what im saying here, by the time a country has deployable assets in another country the war is over it’s done.

In a full scale invasion with conventional forces

[full musk]

“Smart enough to stay stateside” mf the military tells people where to go and when you aren’t smart for staying stateside you just are where you are

😭

[full musk]

I’d think more people in “irl-gear” would be more pro military

Hot take ig

[snow scarab]

lol what?

[full musk]

He was saying he would rather just like defend our country if it got Invaded

And I’m saying that like if China invaded us fully it would be over at that point

[snow scarab]

which for an american citizen is pretty easy and likely to be able to do

[full musk]

Yeah I mean China isn’t that capable

[snow scarab]

sure thing bud

[full musk]

Idk man

It would never happen obviously

But same goes for China if we were fully into their country we would be winning

If there was a conflict

[timber fog]

Thank you

[timber fog]

I’m saying I’m defending myself and my community if something like that happens, which - let’s be honest - probably never will

So no point in joining either way

[wind cave]

All westerners are selling out nowadays

[timber fog]

If by “selling out” you mean “not trying to die over an oil field”

Then call me a sellout

If we have a border situation that’s like Russia-Ukraine (which we won’t), I’d maybe reconsider

[full musk]

I think what I was saying above was u clear

Unclear

The United States wouldn’t ever let a country come close to our borders

So something really bad would have to be happening to have an invasion

We would have to have like our whole navy wiped out before that happens

[full musk]

I get it I mean the military isn’t for everyone we def ain’t dying over oil fields but it’s also not what everyone wants or needs to do

[timber fog]

The coast guard does more for the direct security of our citizens than any active duty member is doing overseas

I’m not going to sit here and pretend we just don’t need a military

But you aren’t doing shit just by joining

[tiny meadow]

Real, I literally sit in an office here in Okinawa

[timber fog]

Especially not deploying

[full musk]

All depends on ya job

[full musk]

Every branch directly supports our citizens conus and outside the continental United States

The CG included

Just depends on your job

[timber fog]

Wouldn’t rather have my tax dollars spent any other way 🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[timber fog]

They got you good, didn’t they?

[full musk]

No I’m just saying it’s how it is

[tiny meadow]

Thanks btw, enjoying my free bachelors

[full musk]

It all depends on your job

[full musk]

Ty I’m enjoying my room rn with free food

[timber fog]

Only real reason to join tbh: taking advantage of the benefits

[tiny meadow]

I hate people who join for that

[full musk]

I don’t enjoy the water quality of my room but that’s a different story

[tiny meadow]

They usually end up being ghetto trash who have no other future

[timber fog]

If only our country didn’t hate poor folk and provided them with alternative solutions to escape poverty…

But then, who would join?

[tiny meadow]

I came soul searching and ain’t find shit lmao

[timber fog]

I could’ve told you that

That’ll come with life experience

It’s hard

[full musk]

Idk man I joined to do a good job and I’m doing a good job

It’s pretty solid Ngl

I’ll make a lot of money getting out and now I’m pretty set so

Military is pretty good in my books

[tiny meadow]

Yea then they try bringing their shitty past lives and low self esteem and build an ego creating toxic leadership

I hate the pog fleet 🥸🥸

[full musk]

😔 aye aye petty officer

Idk navy is chillin my leadership is great rn

No complaints

[timber fog]

You can say this about any institution in the US and it would be true for just about anyone of any background

We have an ego problem in general

It isn’t just with hood dudes

[timber fog]

Union electricians be like

[tiny meadow]

Fair, I just hate how indoctrinated in “tradition” the Marine Corps is for the most part then you have legitimate troglodytes being enforcers while being negligent hypocrites

[full musk]

Are you in the marines?

[tiny meadow]

Yea

[full musk]

Oh I thought you said CG earlier

You a combat or non combat mos?

[timber fog]

USMC’s especially notorious for that

Should’ve went army

Suppose everything’s easier in hindsight though

[tiny meadow]

Joined to be an 03 cuz grunt spirit de corps seems actually cool cuz units are embedded with actual history and achievements

And here I am a pog ass admin in Okinawa within headquarters and support with copium driven nco’s and overly indoctrinated snco’s whose only pinnacles in their careers were being drill instructor’s

[full musk]

Marines 364 days a year until the 10th comes

[tiny meadow]

Waiting for the next recon screener to come cuz holy shit this is purgatory

[timber fog]

Tbh still better than getting deployed to an active combat zone only to get your shit pushed in by a dude in civilian clothes and sandals, all in the name of profit incentive

[tiny meadow]

I like the contrast but I don’t get why people reluctantly refer to the Middle East as if we’re still there

[timber fog]

It’s like that everywhere

Middle East, Africa, Southeast Asia

And we are still in the ME

I don’t get why people think that just because we pulled out of Afghanistan, they think we pulled out of the ME entirely

[tiny meadow]

We’re still not door kicking and going pb to pb

Most at this point is admin workers especially in the Marines just dudes sitting at an embassy

[coarse laurel]

0311 huh?

Maybe you can try your luck at ranger lol. Too many marines fucking failing up in here

[coarse laurel]

What’s your rate

[coarse laurel]

What oil field are we talking about, I’ve been at this for 6-7 years now and I haven’t seen a single oil field. Me thinks you are conflating early GWOT and the gulf war images to us just defending oil fields lol

Also majority of the US military deployed right now are sitting in Europe

The army takes up most of that number

[timber fog]

“Name every oil field” isn’t an argument I’m going to entertain when it’s pretty established as a metaphor for the general lobbyist interests that the military gets exploited for

Thanks to said GWOT days, no less

Funny to see how we still haven’t learned this lesson

[timber fog]

Grunts aren’t, contractors are. Why do you think we still maintain bases in the ME? Hint: you can’t have shit like air superiority or medevac as a contractor if you don’t have air support. The point is, we still have people occupying places overseas, putting their lives at risk so some politicians and their executive buddies can give themselves a yearly bonus bigger than what you’ll make in your entire military career, when you could be home and actually doing something for your people. If you’re cool with that for yourself, good for you; if you can’t see how it’s a bigger problem in the grand scheme of things, I’m sorry to hear that

[coarse laurel]

And yet you are pumping the same gas gained from that venture

Lol

[timber fog]

If only we invested into other forms of transportation and making cities less auto-centric…

If it were up to me, I wouldn’t be pumping gas much at all

But that’s not what our society’s set up for, is it?

Terrible point to make imo

We’re only pumping gas because of those lobbyists that caused the GWOT to begin with

[coarse laurel]

Whose getting their shit pushed in btw? Motherfuckers complain that we are overkill when it comes to these same motherfuckers.

I also don’t understand that claim that contractors are kicking doors and shit

Personally I don’t care about politics and rhetorics but I do take offense when people make dumbass claims and try to cheapen our military service like that by saying we are just doing this to serve politicians

People join the military for all sorts of reasons but the benefits can’t be underestimated either.

[full pecan]

👍🏽

[coarse laurel]

I’ve served with a lot of motherfuckers who turned their life around when they joined. Or those kids who needed a head start in life

My personal experience is I’ve helped people to just Americans but foreign nationals too medically lol, I’m serving a purpose higher than myself

Right now I’m helping train the next generation of leaders and rangers and I’m proud of that shit.

If y’all got a problem foreign policy don’t shit talk the military, shit talk the people you put into office.

[full musk]

currently doing intel

i enjoy it

[coarse laurel]

Nice

[full musk]

hopefully i can go HUMINT later down the line once i get older

actually do something i can see the results of

or a JSOC position

but for now im just tryna get good at intel yk

[full musk]

i havent been in for very long but ive seen alot of people already have a huge positive change in their life being able to get away from where they were before and just put a structure in their life

people wanna talk alot of shit on the military but at the end of the day whatever you put into something youll get out of it I enjoy the work here too its all just perspective

[coarse laurel]

A lot of people don’t understand this concept

[full musk]

Yeah and i guess i get it i mean not everyone is meant for the military too, its just crazy to hear people shit on the military cause of some stuff they've heard

[coarse laurel]

Because it’s easy to do so

[full musk]

true true

[coarse laurel]

Low hanging fruit and all that

[full musk]

yea

honestly intel has helped me gain a pretty big perspecive pretty fast on how fucked up this world is though

seeing alot of crazy stuff goin down at 19 its a little shocking lmao

[coarse laurel]

It’s a werid love hate relationship for me, I can talk shit because I’m actually putting in the hours but at the same time I’m proud of the results

I hate the fact that I do 11 ranger cycles a year

And do 48 hour shifts in the woods following ranger students around

But I’m proud of the fact that I’m helping train these rangers and future leaders

[full musk]

your gonna have a impact on future rangers though too

yeah

thats solid asf

[coarse laurel]

Not to mention it’s not just rangers, we have marines, airmen, sailors, space force

Who go thru this course

And allied military

We just graduated a space force guy a few months ago

Also some soldiers from lebanon, Brazil, Singapore, and Germany

[full musk]

wasnt it the first guy to go through the course for the space force?

i think i saw an article on it

[coarse laurel]

We had a couple

He was the first to make it

[full musk]

thats awesome

space force has always seemed mysterious to me lmao i dont know too much about it rn

[timber fog]

Same motherfuckers that secured and protect those oil fields we pump our gas from. If you’re going to switch subjects so blatantly, can you at least not play dumb in the process?

[timber fog]

But that’s exactly what it is. What do you think SF’s been doing in Africa all these years? Lol

[coarse laurel]

Taking casualties doesn’t mean you are getting your shit pushed in. Getting your shit pushed in implies you are fucking combat ineffective because you got beat

[naive maple]

wasting blood and treasure, and american lives, on grand politics without any meaningful end goal

[timber fog]

Training the next generation of it and proud 🙏🏼🦅🇺🇸

[coarse laurel]

It just sounds like you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about

[timber fog]

I’d say the same of you

If you’re going to be a cog in the machine, you should at least pay more attention to what that machine’s doing

[naive maple]

i would not possibly recommend joining the armed forces when the general officer corps OF-6 and up not only hates your guts but hates your entire culture and upbringing, not even talking about the political class

[timber fog]

How can you ignore politics when the military is inherently political?

[timber fog]

And then you have post-service life, a glorious and respected lifetime of VA rejections and untreated PTSD

[coarse laurel]

It’s called obeying the lawful orders of a democratically elected government that you clowns voted in.

[naive maple]

[grand walrus]

No politics

[full musk]

absolutely insane that yall know nothing about what the mil does

[full musk]

there is a plethora of bad shit constantly happening in africa, the united states not only acts apon things that can defend our homeland but also helps out foreign governments too

you are genuinely so narrow minded if you think the only thing in africa is "defending oil"

[full musk]

what do you know about O6s and up

the Os at my command are great people with far more experience than most at my command, you cant slap a label on everyone you are just being stupid man.

[wind cave]

What’s the point of anything you’re saying

To say shit is wrong

Do you truly feel like every single person in the military none of them do anything positive for themselves or others

[snow scarab]

lol

[snow scarab]

ehhhh, O4s and above pretty much have to push their men to the brink in order to promote

[coarse laurel]

So he claims the military is political and yet we aren’t lol. We don’t do politics but we do have politicians dictating foreign policy and even if we execute it it doesn’t necessarily mean we agree with it

[full musk]

Not you lmao I know you know about the military

We’ve talked about the army and navy before

[full musk]

I guess it all depends on branch and job too, there is officers in navy the who don’t give af about their people and then there is Os who are prior enlisted and def are great leaders

[coarse laurel]

Also it might sound old fashioned but there’s some folks like me who still do it because we do it for our country and to serve a purpose higher than ourselves. I wouldn’t expect people like him to understand the meaning of selfless service.

[timber fog]

Boutta be a the way chat’s looking post-warning

If you really care that much take it to my DMs

[coarse laurel]

I’ve had more issues with senior NCO’s than O’s in my career and I interact with alot of O’s lol

Mainly because it’s a bunch of salty dudes stuck in a weird middle management position

[snow scarab]

main reason i joined too

[full musk]

this isnt politicing

i joined for the same reason my parents both did it and they got to help people cause they were both corpsmen

hopefully i get good opportunities to do good things too

[timber fog]

Whatever helps you sleep at night, friend

[full musk]

Whatever keeps both sides of the pillow cold 🙏

[coarse laurel]

It’s a hard concept to grasp apparently.

[wind cave]

youre being dumb

even if you dont think thats what it is, you're saying no one joins for that reason / does that

[timber fog]

Well, as long as we’re still throwing ad hominems around…

[wind cave]

that's just not realistic

[timber fog]

I thought SEALs were supposed to be the self righteous ones?

[wind cave]

its like when people say big businesses are ruining the world, they are, sure militaries are just furthering rich politicians interests

at the same time those business give tons of scholarships internships etc, like you can only seee the shit in anything if you want to

like its never as simple as "oh military bad"

[timber fog]

You can think you join for whatever reason you want. Reality doesn’t care why you joined

[wind cave]

but your reality is also biased lmfao

[timber fog]

Wah wah

[wind cave]

what you're saying is not the reality

[timber fog]

Dm me

[wind cave]

but you're making it that anyone who disagees is a coping patriot

[timber fog]

I’m not doing this here

I’m willing to have the conversation

Just not here

[wind cave]

why

[timber fog]

Gee, I wonder

[wind cave]

im gonna be honest im more in this just to engage, i dont actually care enough to have it one on one

i had a good day

im about to chill

[timber fog]

I figured

[wind cave]

um yea lmao

youre not really in it for real either

if you were you wouldnt be so biased on one side

we'd be having a more realistic level discussion

[timber fog]

You and I are not the same, and you do not speak for me

[coarse laurel]

He seems really invested

[wind cave]

ok punisher

[coarse laurel]

For some reason

[full musk]

yo dirty guerrilla

keep buying cammies and then hate on the military

larping and hating on the military dont go hand in hand

[full musk]

you are insanely naive

[coarse laurel]

Did you ever serve? It sounds like you haven’t.

[full musk]

yeah he is just a little kid man just shitting on the military

[coarse laurel]

It’s not black and white at all.

[timber fog]

I’m sorry I hurt your guys’ feelings

[full musk]

it seems like you have absolutely no perspective at all on what the military is really like

[wind cave]

I don't feel like it's even that. @timber fog I've seen you talk other times, so I feel like you can acknowledge what I'm saying,
Not a single person in here has disagreed with you on the points you've made

[timber fog]

If you want to keep talking we can DM

You can even group DM me to keep the circle jerk going

I don’t mind

[coarse laurel]

Not gonna talk shit about firefighters and the way they do their jobs when I’ve never done their job

[wind cave]

no ones banning anyone for politics

i dont think they really care or else they woudlve

[timber fog]

Fire fighters actually do something for our people

[wind cave]

no one wants to start a new talk to talk to you

[timber fog]

[wind cave]

we're all here its not that serious

i've seen you talk other times. just acknowledge what im saying ebcause i know you're intelligent

none of these guys have said you're just wrong about the points you've made

[timber fog]

Then why do you keep talking? You already said, you don’t even care

[wind cave]

but you're arguing like a redditor

like everything has to be black or white

why can you not just concede that its not that simple

[timber fog]

Oh nooo, the hard R word

Anyways,

[wind cave]

like the military can be furthing politicians interests and also have lots of good

[coarse laurel]

You keep telling yourself that, have you done anything for your community at all? Because I have.

[timber fog]

Bet you felt badass dropping that didn’t you?

[wind cave]

bro but look at what you're doing

you're literally trying to argue with me

[timber fog]

I have and do

[wind cave]

rather than just ahve the conversation

[full musk]

what do you do for your country

[wind cave]

it doesn't matter about feeling badass, it's true

[full musk]

fill me in

[wind cave]

you are just making it black and white knowing it isnt

[timber fog]

Take care of the elders you neglect

[full musk]

i wanna know what your extensive service has done

ok man

[wind cave]

bro what is going on with you

seriously

this isnt a circlejerk

[full musk]

well how about you ask old people what the military does for our country

[wind cave]

youre just being unreasonable

[full musk]

theyve gone through enough to know

[coarse laurel]

What a psycho. Dudes just lashing out now

[full musk]

yeah man

its whatever

[timber fog]

As far as you’re concerned, I work in healthcare, specifically senior care

But again, whatever helps you sleep at night

[wind cave]

can we just talk instead of the passive agressive comments on both sides

[timber fog]

Evidently not

[wind cave]

can you just respond to straight up questions and make your points

[timber fog]

Rich coming from you

[wind cave]

you're the one doing most of the passive agressiveness

i asked you straight up questions withoutn insulting you

conceded that i agree with your poijnts

literally just asked you to concede that its not that simple

but you wont

[full musk]

ok cool man, my family has worked in healthcare for their entire careers in military. Done multiple deployments to third world countries providing care and also doing stateside medical too. What we are trying to say is you cant just shit on a career field because of a negative aspect that you view is inherently tied to the military. Widen your perspective and grow up a little man just think.

[timber fog]

I have a better idea. Let’s post gear, and if you want to have a real conversation or keep attacking me personally, you can dm me

[wind cave]

you are in fact arguing like a redditor, but then get mad when i say it

bro but HOW AM I ATTACKING YOU PERSONALLY

what has been PERSONALLY said

[full musk]

Post Gear!?!?!

[timber fog]

Came in swingin’

[wind cave]

thats fair

[coarse laurel]

I’m a literally a fucking combat medic and my patients does t just end with soldiers but I’ve treated foreign nationals, civilians during a disaster, and retirees lol

[wind cave]

i forgot about that, being honest

[full musk]

bro nobody cares about your gear man your shitting on the military

[wind cave]

i stick by it

but i agree it was coming in hot

and i apologize

[coarse laurel]

Don’t talk to me about healthcare.

[timber fog]

No point in backpedaling

[wind cave]

im not backpedaling

i said i stick by it

you were being dumb

[full musk]

your "gear" is shit people wear that serve in the miltary absolutely insane concept

[wind cave]

i dont fear you in real life + we're speaking on the internet

i have literally no reason to backpedal

i stand by what i said

i can stand by what i said and admit i was wrrong for saying it

[timber fog]

Become an EMT and maybe I’d be interested in doing so to begin with

[wind cave]

things are not black and white

[coarse laurel]

I’m a nationally registered paramedic bro.

Wth

[timber fog]

Got me there

That’s not your title though is it?

[full musk]

you are being so naive man

holy shit

[wind cave]

this is pointless

once i admit to points someone else makes and they cant even admit to their own obvious wrong

[coarse laurel]

F2 identifier for combat medic is earned when you have your paramedic license. Yes I had to do time at an ER and an ambulance civilian-side as well.

[wind cave]

theres no ppoint

you win

[timber fog]

Nobody even asked you to join and you haven’t contributed anything of substance

[wind cave]

nothing you've said has been substantive this entire time

not a single thing

you've literally just picked and argued the entire time

makign little gotcha points

and no one said any of them were wrong. they literally onyl said theres much more than that

but you continue to ignore that

[timber fog]

How many times did I say take it to my DMs? Go back and count

I’ll do it

Not here

[wind cave]

nah im good

ok cool

[timber fog]

Exactly

[wind cave]

exactly what though dummy

like what point are you proving

[timber fog]

Bro

[wind cave]

is it a power move

[timber fog]

Why are you still talking

[wind cave]

that to get your genuine opinion i need to dm you

[timber fog]

You don’t need to dm me for that

You can read chat history lol

If you want to try and debate me or change my thinking or whatever weird shit you’re trying to do here though

You can dm me

[wind cave]

nope im good

you got it

[timber fog]

Exactly

[full musk]

no gifs

unfortunate

[timber fog]

That’s actually cooler than what you do now

You should do that again and actually help people here

[full musk]

💀

ok man

at this point stfu and walk away man

[wind cave]

just stop

hes just baiting obviously

[grand walrus]

Anyone want mutes?

[timber fog]

Yeah mb for the late response. I got distracted

[full musk]

we chillin

[timber fog]

Boolin, even

[coarse laurel]

@full musk If you are intel you can transfer over to space force btw

[wind cave]

i want one

[coarse laurel]

There’s spots open

[wind cave]

you mods love your internet power man

[full musk]

Rn i wanna work towards a special screening program

later down the line

thats my main goal it allows intel to work boots on ground

[coarse laurel]

Shoulda gone Army for that lol

Intel nerds here go to the field especially the ones attached to a BN

[full musk]

im thinking about Blue to Green

Army would allow me to go straight into HUMINT

[coarse laurel]

I know a fair bit that got SF group assignments

Also helps knowing another language

[full musk]

yea i mean if i can get some good experience under my belt then go into the army i think id be able to do some good work

i wanted to learn either Pashtu or Mandarin

something thats useful rn

[coarse laurel]

My wife yells at me in mandarin every day

[full musk]

haha your halfway there

[coarse laurel]

I’m starting to pick up some

[full musk]

lmaoo

[coarse laurel]

I speak Tagalog

Which is funny

[full musk]

oh shit you get any extra pay for that

the navy has horrible admin for getting people extra pay for languages

[coarse laurel]

Same for the army unless you are in a position that actively uses it

Like the WHINSEC guys who gets paid for speaking Spanish because their school involves teaching South American militaries

Funny enough green side seems to treat its people better than the navy

Navy seems to be stuck in the old British Royal navy tradition of segregating officers from the enlisted

Meanwhile we eat at the same table as our commander

Being in a joint base with the navy and Air Force was wild

[full musk]

yeah its heavily seperated

they are in their own world

like i said good leadership, but they are completely different

[coarse laurel]

I play airsoft with 2 LTC’s

And a command sergeant major

In the same brigade as I do

[full musk]

im tryna get into airsoft but like

idk if i can have a airsoft gun on base

[coarse laurel]

We have our own field in fort Moore/fort benning

[full musk]

there is an amazing field here in virginia

and im here for like 6 more months

[coarse laurel]

Where to next

[full musk]

idk yet

i got a C school

so additional schooling after i get my job

then ill probably end up in bahrain or dc

[coarse laurel]

Lame

Get into airsofting when you end up in San Diego

Or back to VA

[full musk]

yea true

if i ever end up in san diego

[snow scarab]

unironically the best place the navy can station you

[full musk]

Shore duty yes, sea duty definitely not 😭

[worldly orbit]

what sort of a rig is that

[formal onyx]

Old Point Blank AVS

All of that stuff is for my 90's force recon Larp

[midnight owl]

Goes hard

[snow scarab]

@low fox @coarse laurel @storm peak

[low fox]

Take them socks off

[worthy heart]

Let's see them grippers

[snow scarab]

😂😂

[graceful bramble]

should've added a censor bar dog

[storm peak]

Um sir, where

You can't post anything gear or gun related without toes

[snow scarab]

i will disembowel you

[mental vessel]

any advice for my first plate carrier/

[low fox]

my first one was a jpc

but nah i switched to webgear

[mental vessel]

mine is a Valken plate carrier laser cut black,it was 50$

[low fox]

Wtf

Dont go cheap on your damned plate carrier

This aint a admin pouch bro

It saves lives

[mental vessel]

its all i could afford

[low fox]

Fuck

My bad bro

[mental vessel]

plus its for airsoft

[low fox]

oh yeah fair enough

i do home defense and larp

[mental vessel]

i wanna larp and do home defense but i cant buy a real gun and idk where to larp

[low fox]

Good idea? The forests

But always stay close to your neighborhood

I go maximum 50 meters in the forest

[tiny cedar]

Is prewipe event going on?

[low fox]

If you have land nav and experience sure go ahead and go far in

[low fox]

Under 18?

[mental vessel]

yep

and no land at all, nearest forest is a national park

[low fox]

Bruh

You in city?

[mental vessel]

im kinda fucked but no not city just farmland no trees

[low fox]

your relatives own that farmland?

[mental vessel]

nope neighbors

[low fox]

try to get on their good side

then ask for permission to use some farmland they dont use for training

(they probably dont understand what LARP means)

[mental vessel]

ill ask lol,iv got some airsoft guns so i can do some reading drills and what not

[low fox]

oh by the way

[mental vessel]

i got a m4 and a baretta

[low fox]

just like

practice cqb

you'll eventually get old enough to get a gun

then you're gonna have a family

you need to train well before youre 18 so youre well prepped

that family will be your responsibility

[mental vessel]

bet cqb is my fav anyway, and i plan to get trained on gun safy and all that bc i wanna protect the ppl i love

[low fox]

gun safety is EASY bro

just practice trigger discipline

and always renember this

"keep that gun on safe at all times"

oh yeah please dont have a round chambered in, it can malfunction + if someone is in your home it takes less than a second to reload

second unspoken rule

dont point that gun to anyone

[mental vessel]

first rule of gun safety is keep your finger off the trigger untill your ready to shoot, know whats behind your target, dont aim at something unless you plan to destroy it

[low fox]

You actually have a brain unlike some of the adults in my neighborhood

After you are 18+ youre gonna be responsible as fuck, and stay safe out there mate

[mental vessel]

both my parents are prior military so they tought me some things

dad was marines and mom was coast guard

[low fox]

fair enough

Well good luck man

[mental vessel]

good luck to you too man

[low fox]

imma go play some horror game, have a nice day

[mental vessel]

you too

[river frigate]

My LBT6094

[tiny meadow]

lol the cif pouches

[naive maple]

just save your money, get a small job if you have the energy for it

you have your whole life ahead of you

and can buy so much cool shit eventually

[naive maple]

airsoft guns are fine for dry practice, not dry firing with trigger control but everything else (95% of dry practice)

watch ben stoeger videos

[naive maple]

i hate that ultra bulky... lamp? camera? thing on the left

[stiff nacelle]

Flashlight with IR, flashlight itself is 1×3,3 inches, the mount is bulky

Need to find some lower profile mount

[low fox]

Never seen a helmet settup like that before

[naive maple]

i feel like it's gonna snag and bump on everything

especially in structures

[stiff nacelle]

Yep definitely an issue

[low fox]

[marsh flint]

Yea basically trigger control, Weight (this depends on quality)

[naive maple]

yes the weight is wrong but not a huge deal for rifles

worse for handguns

[marsh flint]

Yup

I have an Airsoft plastic Beretta longslide. Pretty useless

But a kwc metallic p226 blowback is ok:ish

[narrow fulcrum]

what the fuck is this

[timber fog]

He’s innawoods

[low fox]

Local USEC Operator

[worldly orbit]

Whats wrong with fog

[tiny meadow]

The fan base and hype goon culture all around becoming cringe and stupid

[worldly orbit]

Its like the skaters

[timber fog]

It’s all just poser culture

FOG in particular is too edgy to take serious

[low fox]

I invoke the fifth

[signal horizon]

nasty

vermin

[serene sierra]

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[carmine vault]

Should I change anything? (Im aware of the knife placement). My goal is to go for something versatile and adaptable but from a foundation of comms and navigation.

I feel like I'm done with the set up but i also feel like I'm missing stuff so idk. Please give me any criticisms and recommendations. Thanks

[muted gate]

Why do you have a shotgun cord with no breacher shotgun

Sharpie will get lost

Get a proper leatherman pouch

[misty mesa]

I’d get a eese junglas if your nav

11” survival knife will be a lot better than a 2” stabber

[muted gate]

Also that tq placement give me bad vibes

[carmine vault]

Shot gun cords was told to have "in case" the sharpi is for writing on maps or utility, and the small kabar knife is more for self defense and weapon retention, nothing offensive but I was looking for a bk18 knife

[muted gate]

You go down, that windless is going straight into the mud.

Just looks wrong to me

[carmine vault]

Yeah I was thinking about running the tq on my sides but I'm running outta space on my belt

[muted gate]

(god i missed this)

[misty mesa]

I’d really recommend a standard ka bar or jugalas

[muted gate]

Fuck the kabar

[misty mesa]

I mean yeah

But bro needs a survival knife if he’s nav

[carmine vault]

Was told to keep the back clean as possible for no back Injurys and better seating in vics

[muted gate]

What is this even for

[carmine vault]

I could get a benchmade

I hear their really good,but also a pricey knife to lose, and their holsters are almost non existent and I want a good click sheath like kabar I have

A Eickhorn knife was recommended to me as a alternative

[snow scarab]

that is not a shotgun cord

also hi woo

[muted gate]

Yeah im back for a bit

[snow scarab]

also this doesn’t really matter

[muted gate]

Looking into auto loans atm

[snow scarab]

as long as the elastic is good to use, it’s fine

[snow scarab]

NO

bad woo

bad

[muted gate]

Gaz 24

Like 8 apr for 2

12k loan over 72 months

[snow scarab]

that TQ is fine

[carmine vault]

The elastic is good but I might switch to a kydexs holster

[snow scarab]

i was working in heavy mud the other day doing quals and other shit, and i just brushed it off

[snow scarab]

no need

[muted gate]

Its more that he is having a tq in an area of contact

[snow scarab]

i use an esstac holder for mine

[snow scarab]

i have mine in the exact same area

it’s not that bad

[muted gate]

Mine is covered tho

Atleast 80% of it

[snow scarab]

can you do a layout pic?

like this is mine

belt is different

i had to tear the SPC apart too sadly lol

[brazen orchid]

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[carmine vault]

I dont have one rn but I got a side pic if that helps

[snow scarab]

yeah that works

[snow scarab]

is this mostly for airsoft, larp, or work?

[muted gate]

Other aside

[snow scarab]

or a mix of them

[muted gate]

Not digging that left side high mag pouch

Seems akward

[snow scarab]

i can see it being good use

[carmine vault]

A mix of both

It's a admin pouch

I made sure to keep it off my right side so my pistol is more accessible

[snow scarab]

as you should

[hidden copper]

First thing I noticed, that's a super awkward, maybe try lowering it if possible

[snow scarab]

lemme lay out my current set up of issues and personal gear

[carmine vault]

I might get a blurforce gear dump pouch, mine feels a bit to big but im not sure ,yall thoughts?

[naive maple]

too much crap dangling/hanging loose

[muted gate]

Put it opposate side and low. Or atleast try it

Its what I have on mine

[naive maple]

the shears and knife on the outside of the placard poke out and will snag on everything

sharpie will get lost as he said

also not a criticism but just a question, what the hell is the carabiner and shock lanyard for

[muted gate]

Breacher cord

I put mine on my shoulder tho

[naive maple]

i dont get it

[snow scarab]

i love mine

[snow scarab]

i agree with this, but not the other stuff

[snow scarab]

it can also be a helo hook in

[muted gate]

Shortie Shotgun hookup

[carmine vault]

The shears are there until I get the shear extension for my ifake where it'll be attached to in on my back, the knife I wanna put it ok my inner belt but again it's getting abit to filled up so I'm conflicted

[snow scarab]

my issued IOTV but most of these pouches are personal

[naive maple]

if it wasnt for the EUD i would say put the knife on the inside of the placard instead of outside

[snow scarab]

this isn’t necessarily a plate carrier, but if you got some questions, ask away

[naive maple]

but i guess its not practical with the EUD

[naive maple]

but why

[muted gate]

I HATE THE IOTV SO FUCKING MUCH

[carmine vault]

Yeah the sharpi is just there for quick use, if I know I won't use it alot it gets thrown into the admin but since I use it alot lately it goes upfront. Don't care if it gets lost tbh.

[muted gate]

FUCK THOSE BUCKLES

[snow scarab]

the gen 4 is good

[snow scarab]

to allow for easy breach access

[muted gate]

Nah i got issued one.

Those shoulder buckles suck

[snow scarab]

a gen 4?

or a gen 3

[muted gate]

Might be a 3

[snow scarab]

if it’s got the wide cut then it’s a 3

and yeah those suck

the gen 4 is an amazing compromise tho

[muted gate]

All i know is the shoulder straps are a hot spot

Hurts so fucking much

[carmine vault]

Was given by a friend and told its "essential" to have so I just put it there, dosnt cause any issues since the bison belt was built for it in mind

[naive maple]

i wouldn't put anything on my gear that wasn't there for a specific purpose i actually knew about myself

[snow scarab]

it’s only essential if you have a shotgun to use it with