irl-gear

[marsh flint]

I only need jesus. Thirsty for wine now

[fast fiber]

shooting each other with real steel isn't pleasant either tbh

[misty mango]

can confirm

have been shot

would rather get his with a bb

[coarse laurel]

@snow scarab lol the airborne school gave me a free MOLLE 4k randomly

Still in plastic and everything

[fast fiber]

no way

[twin creek]

That’s cool

[snow scarab]

that’s the new new ruck isn’t it? the one that’s basically just a modern alice

[coarse laurel]

Yeah it’s usually what’s given for airborne

[snow scarab]

oh nice

to keep i’m guessing?

[coarse laurel]

Yup

[fluid ridge]

Is it confirmed about what kind of bag we're getting with lmg's? Is it this one and if there's more bags like this can you ping me there names.

[coarse laurel]

For who?

[fluid ridge]

There's alot of talk about a ammo feeding bag for lmg's. Has it been confirmed?

[coarse laurel]

It’s dead in the water

[fluid ridge]

So it's been denied by nikita?

[coarse laurel]

OH wait

You meant for tarkov?

I wouldn’t know I thought we’re talking about real gear

[fluid ridge]

oh lol i meant for deathkov

[plush topaz]

Lol. This is in real life gear

[marsh flint]

:--D

[fluid ridge]

And i made it known, and the pic is irl gear

doesn't state it needs to be my gear though

also used it as an example for my question about the game

[plush topaz]

Nobody here plays the game dud e

[ancient grail]

Wtf is tarkov

[misty mango]

tarkov is when gambling

[fluid ridge]

Then why be in the server? there's other server's that focus on it better.

[plush topaz]

Nah we good

Hence the IRL weapons and IRL gear.

[misty mango]

the other servers suck ass

[plush topaz]

Nothing to do with the game

[misty mango]

atleast here is tolerable

minus the mods

[ancient grail]

Let me make it worse

[plush topaz]

[fluid ridge]

i'm being serious, and i showed irl gear to ask a question about a game about irl gear/realistic tendencies

[ancient grail]

Irl gear

[twin creek]

Real

[ancient grail]

I believe you mis understand the purpose of this channel

[fluid ridge]

Doesn't state needs to be your gear.

Just irl, meaning real life pictures

[ancient grail]

You %100 misunderstand this channel

[fluid ridge]

could be a over sight though

[snow scarab]

yes but if you’re gonna ask about something in game, we’ll tell you we don’t give a flying fuck

[marsh flint]

Battle diaper

[snow scarab]

now post kit or leave

[fluid ridge]

No, I'm using the channel as it's intended, irl gear which was the picture. Just not my gear, also made it known and also added a question about tarkov in a tarkov server that just so happens to be in a channel about irl gear in a tarkov server.

[snow scarab]

wrong

[ancient grail]

This is under the off topic community tab, if you have any questions about game stuff go to the actual game tab lmao

[snow scarab]

it’s intended to discuss IRL gear. not just post pictures of IRL gear and then ask about the fuckin game

[fluid ridge]

i understand, just forgot if i can post gear pics in other channels asking those questions

[snow scarab]

case in point, actual fuckin gear

[twin creek]

What is the t3 wraith modeled off?

[snow scarab]

the what

[ancient grail]

This

[barren kettle]

why are you guys blasting this dude for asking one question 💀

[twin creek]

It’s a Airsoft pc

[snow scarab]

it’s probably it’s own thing

they make that shit all the time

[twin creek]

https://www.evike.com/products/30923/

[fluid ridge]

Right, i simply posted gear and also added a question.

[twin creek]

About the game

Not irl gear

[snow scarab]

and didn’t explain that you were asking about the game lol

[fluid ridge]

then you clearly can't read

[barren kettle]

maybe he wants to do research on the real life examples of it

[snow scarab]

this right here

doesn’t explain its in the game

[fluid ridge]

because i did state it was a question about the game

read after that

[granite tartan]

You’re a dork

[snow scarab]

AFTER you asked the question and somebody answered it

[snow scarab]

after someone said it’s dead in the water and you said “oh it’s confirmed by nikita”

[fluid ridge]

And i think how i worded it makes sense for a question about the game.

[snow scarab]

lol no

[granite tartan]

Then go to general chat

[snow scarab]

obviously not

[ancient grail]

In a tab not related to the game?

[snow scarab]

cause nobody else BUT you understood it

[fluid ridge]

since the next update is gonna add lmg's for people who do play the game...

[granite tartan]

Then go to a chat this is related to the game

[fluid ridge]

Can't post pics there.

[granite tartan]

The.

Simple solution

[snow scarab]

yes you can lol

[granite tartan]

Anywhere else that is game related

[barren kettle]

you cant in eft chat

[fluid ridge]

canm you?

[snow scarab]

literally go to the general right here in community

[barren kettle]

thats off topic though

[granite tartan]

@fluid plover how long is my image restriction

[barren kettle]

so by your own admittance he cant talk about the game there

[fluid plover]

∞

You can appeal via appeal server

#rules on the bottom

[granite tartan]

Really?

[fluid plover]

yis

[granite tartan]

y’all mods are dogshit

Sorry

[fluid plover]

wot

[granite tartan]

But it’s true

[snow scarab]

except that part literally says you can 😱

[granite tartan]

I posted a reactionary image

[fluid plover]

Ok.

[granite tartan]

You cool tho @fluid plover

[barren kettle]

god youre such a fucking cornball

[fluid plover]

You offended me

now you shall die

[granite tartan]

[granite tartan]

Listen

[fluid plover]

[granite tartan]

You the only cool mod

The rest are abysmal

[fluid plover]

Everyone nice people

[granite tartan]

Yeah, but they suck at moderating

It’s not about being nice

[misty mango]

mike
can you not post images?

L?

role doesn't effect me

[twin creek]

Opinions of aglite pcs?

[echo jay]

Untrue, the singular cool mod is kaminsky

[fluid ridge]

Actual fucking gear, not my gear tho.

[plush topaz]

Post gear

[fluid ridge]

it is gear though, what's wrong? is a backpack not gear? i'm shocked your not complaining about the gun being there.

[granite tartan]

Dogshit gear even

[fluid ridge]

how'd you get the role black listed from images?

[granite tartan]

Being based

[plush topaz]

Post your gear

[stuck hazel]

this is a channel thats unrelated to tarkov, hence "off topic"

[fluid ridge]

Then what is #general-chat if it's also off topic

[stuck hazel]

to answer your question, the ammo bag is confirmed as far as we are aware

riot shield is dead in the water

[stuck hazel]

its general chat, eft chat is eft general chat

[fluid ridge]

Thank you, that's all i wanted to know.

[stuck hazel]

why have you argued this for so long

[fluid ridge]

instead i only had karens pinging me

[stuck hazel]

it doesn't matter if youre wrong

[fluid ridge]

I enjoy when someone talks big but shows no proof of this channel stating it needs to be your gear, not here or in the rules

[stuck hazel]

(also it is not going to be player equip able)

[misty mango]

its common sense tbf

[fluid ridge]

FUCKKKKKING CHRIST

DAMMIT

THAT'S NO FUN

[stuck hazel]

we never said you couldnt post gear, we just said this isnt really what goes on in this channel

which is true

just so happens i watched some shit about it back before i stopped playing

[fluid ridge]

i mean, nothing states i can't post irl gear without attaching questions about the game. ect...

[stuck hazel]

we never said you couldnt

it just isnt advised

because the likely hood you get an answer is slim

[fluid ridge]

see, i like you. your cool and don't drag it out like a karen. ty for existing, didn't waste my time and got straight to the point.

i'm done here, no need to continue

[stuck hazel]

no worries my guy

sorry for the confusion

[fluid ridge]

There was no confusion on my side. Just some people think these channels are meant for gear you own.

[granite tartan]

Oh my god

Shut up

[plush topaz]

Post gear

[granite tartan]

Please dear god

[viral quarry]

[stuck hazel]

man i was doing exactly what they meant by "hearts and minds"

it was the perfect example

[granite tartan]

It really was

[barren kettle]

🫡

[muted gate]

@stuck hazel the fuck i miss lul

[stuck hazel]

guy came in here asking shit ab the game

which yk

we dont provide that service here in irl-gear

and bc everyone here is "super cool operator men" we had to give him the "super cool operator response" of being just vague enough whenever we responded to him and never telling him exactly why hes wrong to make him feel stupid

then it got boring and i gave the customer service explanation of why we didnt want him here

[muted gate]

luuuuuuul

am i an opr8er

[misty mango]

hot

[plush topaz]

Several people explained to him succinctly and concisely

He just needed it in crayon

[ancient grail]

I am super operator man

Cag force recon delta seal

[fluid ridge]

Imagine dragging out the drama/harrassment instead of giving direct answer's from the very start. And making it there fault

[plush topaz]

We all gave you direct answers. You're just an idiot.

Now stfu and post gear

[ancient grail]

I mean you sorta did get a direct answer

[fluid ridge]

Key word sorta

and mostly shit talk/harrassment

[fluid ridge]

i'm sorry, where exactly did you give any proof on this channel being for gear you own, or again a channel unrelated to tarkov. Community -off topic doesn't mean you cannot ask questions about tarkov while also using the channel how it was intended by posting gear, And again gear is also in tarkov. And there's only 2 channels you can post pics related to tarkov in gear and irl weapons. Instead, you start problems, harrass and go on a round about bs rant on how this part of the channel is only for people who don't play the game ect.... Because your a pmc/operator.

[plush topaz]

Yawn

Post gear?

[fluid ridge]

post proof on why i can't mention tarkov here?

[plush topaz]

Huh

[granite tartan]

*signal

[plush topaz]

Is this guy stupid or trolling

I can't tell at this point

[twin creek]

both

[fluid ridge]

I'm being dead serious

no trolling

where does it state that you must own said gear/guns in either channels. Where does it say we can't chat here about gear going to be in the game ect..

[ancient grail]

Actually a cook

[fathom sparrow]

He's obviously an idiot just ignore the poor guy

[plush topaz]

GABAGOOL

[fathom sparrow]

[plush topaz]

[ancient grail]

[fluid ridge]

Nice transportation vehicle, you use this with your opertator gear?

or do you have 1 specifically for the gear?

[plush topaz]

Only pasta

[ancient grail]

Pasta mobile💯

[muted gate]

Its IRL

Gear

In real life

[fluid ridge]

and i posted irl gear with a question

about said gear that will be in the game, only thing that was answer'd was that it's not useable

and that's after the toxic round about way of saying this channel is purely for gear

[ashen edge]

Real gear. channel is fixed no arguing

[granite tartan]

I kinda think you’re right

Why you still arguing tho

[pulsar tusk]

You mfs did act high and mighty about it

[fluid ridge]

Because people are dumb and they think there always right/know what your talking about. But it's all done and over with.

[granite tartan]

K

[fluid ridge]

insults were unneeded and just delayed my gear post that had a question.

[granite tartan]

Okay

[pulsar tusk]

Reddit response

[granite tartan]

You’re literally from NJ with a shit broken ar-10

Cope

And 18

And have steel plates

No bitches

[plush topaz]

[plush topaz]

I'm mighty high rn

[pulsar tusk]

I dont even own steel

[granite tartan]

Canadian

[pulsar tusk]

Is it my fault my gun came broken from the store

[granite tartan]

Can cops spoke weed in Canada

Yes, you bought a stag arms

That is entirely your fault

[pulsar tusk]

There were literally no other ar10s, i even asked you guys if stag was good and nobody said shit of it

[muted gate]

Im just mighty. Do some cardio

[plush topaz]

Yup

[granite tartan]

Honestly

Smoking weed is gross

Sorry

[pulsar tusk]

Only mike w ever

[granite tartan]

Cope?

[plush topaz]

Ya. I quit 15 years ago

[granite tartan]

@plush topaz how fast lowas dry is extremely impressive

[plush topaz]

Nice

Even in wet climate?

[granite tartan]

Yeah, I’ve soaked them completely

Submerged

Dried

[stuck hazel]

Fuck me as we said, not once has anyone said you cant, we have just said don’t

[muted gate]

gear

[misty mango]

silly gear🗿

i am the silliest person in this chat

(i wont be accepting criticism because i already know how stupid it is)

[barren kettle]

jesus man that thing cant even breathe!

[misty mango]

only way to mount it

[barren kettle]

[misty mango]

that "thing" doesn't deserve the ability to

[barren kettle]

[misty mango]

before mods delete

[barren kettle]

abuse!

[misty mango]

the creature

must atone for its sins

[storm peak]

not even a squish

Shame

[misty mango]

i forgot to squish

i shall recreate in the morning

[ashen edge]

goob

[proud hazel]

Most light weight boots do the same

[low zodiac]

What a cool patch

[ashen edge]

The world’s dumbest looking fragmentation helmet: the UK’s mk6

Why is it so fucking large

[final panther]

My boy you need sfera

Goofy ass huge helmet

[ashen edge]

Titanium lined diaper

[final panther]

Yeah but so authentic

[ashen edge]

alsom bought one for 200 but skipped mfs are like 600 now 😢

[final panther]

Ey are like 65$ here lol

[ashen edge]

oop

im am very gelly

[ashen edge]

helmet, just new to repair it a bit

[worthy heart]

Just shrimply don't be a cringe cringe baby man

[plush topaz]

@worthy heart careful he gonna cry about toxicity again

[worthy heart]

Welcome to the internet

[pulsar tusk]

Bro why do you keep bringing it up

The argument will never end

[worthy heart]

I literally just got here

Plus funny

[plush topaz]

Very funny

[worthy heart]

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/various/molle-energy-drink-holster-ajinomoto

Also this is a required piece of kit

For all your moxie needs moxie soda it's distinctly different

[plush topaz]

Print one for me thx

[worthy heart]

[ashen edge]

Lower abdominal plate arrived for the 6b23-1

[empty sorrel]

Steel armor

[ashen edge]

It’s a shit tier Russian vest from the early 2000s ofc it’s steel

[plush topaz]

It's a pelvis plate?

[ashen edge]

More like the stomach area

[plush topaz]

True

What does it fit into?

[ashen edge]

6b23-1 vest

[plush topaz]

Got a pic?

[plush topaz]

Nice

[ashen edge]

About there

The larger breast plate is still in transit

[misty mango]

love breaking state laws

[ashen edge]

Shush

I bought it when I was legally able to, it’s just taken a while to get here

[misty mango]

fair enjough lmao

[empty sorrel]

I thought the NY law only covered soft armor

[ashen edge]

Got changed a month later but I was active military when I bought it so I was on the approved professions list

Also it’s not federally illegal so customs won’t take it and internal shipping doesn’t catch it

[empty sorrel]

Based ignoring unconstitutional (state) law

[pulsar tusk]

What state is buying armor illegal

[pulsar tusk]

Ny?

Thats so corny bro

In NJ you can buy armor for now, they’re trying to make it illegal

Anyone can sell armor too

Just not for protection purpose

[empty sorrel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I own a lot of body armor

[pulsar tusk]

Same

I own so much soft armor

[pulsar tusk]

Only 2 plates though

[empty sorrel]

Gotta pump those numbers up

[pulsar tusk]

Im realistic unlike all of these larpers

Soft armor is 100x better than plates for what id even use it for

[misty mango]

dont you own a ballistic helmet for the range

[pulsar tusk]

Covers more, lighter, more comfortable, more form fit, doesnt restrict movement, at the cost of slightly underperforming, most of crime is with pistol calibers anyways

[pulsar tusk]

I own a ballistic helmet because i can, if youd like to continue to cope about that too

[empty sorrel]

Helmet gang

[pulsar tusk]

Owning a helmet isnt larping

[misty mango]

bit of an oxymoron son

neither are plates

[pulsar tusk]

Using plates as your body armor is totally larping

Thats a last case scenario

[misty mango]

what are you supposed to do

[pulsar tusk]

You arent wearing plates in public

[misty mango]

shit on them

[pulsar tusk]

You look like a shooter

[empty sorrel]

I've done it before

[pulsar tusk]

Have fun with your 911 call for a suspicious person with armor on

[misty mango]

and soft armour doesnt?

both are concealable

[pulsar tusk]

You have to agree soft armor is much easier to conceal

[misty mango]

well yes

it is

thats the point

but its very possible to conceal plates

[pulsar tusk]

Try wearing plates in the summer

Have fun concealing that

[misty mango]

i have lmao

[pulsar tusk]

In a tshirt

[empty sorrel]

Is your T-shirt bulletproof?

[misty mango]

youre not wearing soft in a tshirt either

[pulsar tusk]

Fair enough

But plates will definitely stand out more

If you have a non broken in soft armor it will be as hard to conceal as plates

Worn in soft armor is like form fit

[snow scarab]

hard armor is realistic

especially when most people buy body armor and train for the reason the second amendment was written

to be a militia

[ashen edge]

Helmets, ignore the bag of paintballs

[ashen edge]

Is the one on the lower left a osprey plate?

[pulsar tusk]

Aka LARP

[pulsar tusk]

How are you a collector and pile your helmets like that

[ashen edge]

Cos I have limited space and I like to fiddle with my shit

[snow scarab]

uhhh if you actually have to join and be a militia it’s no longer LARP you trog

[misty mango]

remember kids

its all roleplay until its not

[snow scarab]

^^

[misty mango]

the military roleplays all the time lmao

OPFOR larp is peak

[cerulean kayak]

larp is cringe

[ashen edge]

A militias are larping until they actually fill their function, which is never

[snow scarab]

so is the military

[cerulean kayak]

fr fr

[snow scarab]

the military larps all the time

more often then not actually

[cerulean kayak]

i’d take an army of untrained rednecks over a small group who thinks they’re special forces

[ashen edge]

Except one is endorsed by the federal government and gets payed to do it and the other does it cos they want to

[pulsar tusk]

Training is larping

Fact not fiction

[snow scarab]

it’s still fucking larping 😂

[pulsar tusk]

You should have the covered helmets on the bottom atleast

Until you have more space

[cerulean kayak]

all y’all greasy couch goblins out there larpin

[snow scarab]

it’s called training to be proficient. firearms training doesn’t only apply to the military or police. a civilian can and should know every same tactic that military guys do

[snow scarab]

damn dude, guess my CAC is fake

[cerulean kayak]

guess so

[snow scarab]

definitely. cause you can always trust the government right? right?

[ashen edge]

I just wanna play dress up and shoot trash in the woods

[ashen edge]

totally!

[cerulean kayak]

the government has never lied to us

[ashen edge]

The government has NEVER done anything by wrong!

[cerulean kayak]

except when the CIA killed jfk

[ashen edge]

He was later found in his home with a self inflicted gunshot wound to the back of his head

[misty mango]

3 times

[ashen edge]

💯

Ima get a UN helmet cover

[pulsar tusk]

I have one but its for m1 or ach helmets

It was like $15

Its funny

[proud hazel]

https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/kelty-coyote-105-internal-frame-backpack?hvarAID=shopping_googleproductextensions&ds_e=GOOGLE&ds_c=BPS|Shopping|PMax|Camping|General|NAud|NVol|NMT&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9deiBhC1ARIsAHLjR2Ag4xj3VLdN7LwjBz0WPn14FS-PM8yJjX8-ACllx0cRjd5LLe09VPUaAvw2EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds @granite tartan

[ashen edge]

A M88 pattern one should fit my PASGT

[ashen edge]

Also p sure you put it sideways on the helmet

I have ordered one

Anyone want a Chinese UN peace keeper vest for 50 buck found an eBay seller selling one

[plush topaz]

Make sure to get matching helmet

[ashen edge]

i already have a PASGT ill prolly replace the woodland cover i have on it right now

[plush topaz]

Smart. Just a cover or paint really

And a UN stencil

[empty sorrel]

No, special issue

Made for British officers in north Ireland
To protect from the south Armagh sniper

[ashen edge]

What system is it for?

[empty sorrel]

It was custom made for the plates

The front plate was actually cut like the top right

Only 200 sets made

[ashen edge]

damn

[proud hazel]

is idogear any good?

[snow scarab]

no

amazon quality

[proud hazel]

perfect

[snow scarab]

oh god

[proud hazel]

what

i am sure its fine

[snow scarab]

oh that

i thought you were gonna get their crye knockoffs

[proud hazel]

they do look close

[snow scarab]

personally i bought all that shit from evike

[proud hazel]

probably fine

what are good alternatives to crye btw

[snow scarab]

do you require knee pads and are you tryna get something other than multicam?

[lean gale]

Tbh bro I’ve wore pc with hard and soft plates in summer and both are just as shit

[pulsar tusk]

I didnt say PC

A soft vest

Vs a PC

I should’ve clarified

[lean gale]

Yeah like covert under vest

Yeah

[ashen edge]

PC's with soft armor seem silly given their lack of coverage

[pulsar tusk]

Full size kevlar panels not plate sized ones

[pulsar tusk]

For real

Unless its level 4

[ashen edge]

with hard plates i get it i suppose but i would rather have a full wrap vest with Kevlar and a plate

[lean gale]

Pc is just purely for fighting capability unless you have a gun belt

Covert vest can’t rlly attach ammunition to

[pulsar tusk]

Gun belts are so fire

[lean gale]

Word

[pulsar tusk]

Thats why you wear rigs over it

[lean gale]

Yeah

[ashen edge]

basically the modernized ALICE belt

[lean gale]

That’s a combo that’s good but it’s stripping it off if you go down

Trying to chest seal a dude who has 2 vests on and clothes

[pulsar tusk]

Same as a mf without a quick detach PC

[lean gale]

That’s why ya gotta go for a nice pc

[pulsar tusk]

Mine is 1000d and quick detach but people here would still make fun of it

[lean gale]

I don’t understand ppl who spend like 60 bucks on one

Looking to bleed out in their own gear

[pulsar tusk]

Mfs with black kits when they realise black hides blood

[ashen edge]

me with a 2007 interceptor as my only modern(ish) armor

[pulsar tusk]

Well you’re exempt you collect surplus right

You dont have that as like your personal gear

[stuck hazel]

Arcteryx leaf lol

[ashen edge]

maybe the front opening flap would make medical easier

who knows, i hope i dont find out

[pulsar tusk]

You mean the like two piece kevlar panel things on the interceptor vest

[stuck hazel]

This your kit?

[pulsar tusk]

Yes

[ashen edge]

it opens like a flak vest, yes

[lean gale]

It’s good to be able to strip your gear off faster than you can put it on

[pulsar tusk]

I need some panels for that style of vest i have one thats empty

[lean gale]

It will save ur life if you ever use it

[stuck hazel]

Intended to be used during real life and death situations?

[pulsar tusk]

If i had to use something in a situation id be wearing a kevlar vest

[lean gale]

Good luck

[pulsar tusk]

More than half of crime is with pistols

[stuck hazel]

You mean you’d choose Kevlar over plates?

[lean gale]

Yeah but it’s being able to strip it off

As I said

[pulsar tusk]

Yeah

[ashen edge]

the only vest i have with plates is a 6B23-1 💀

[misty mango]

kevlar over plates

[pulsar tusk]

Kevlar is like 2 straps holding it together

[stuck hazel]

I’m trying to hard to give you a chance why can’t you just be normal…

[lean gale]

If someone shoots you gives you an arterial bleed you will die pretty quick trying to find and stabilise a wound on ur own

After stripping 2 vests off

And ur clothing

[pulsar tusk]

“Why arent you wearing plates🤔☝️🤓 officer… why do you use soft armor mr police you should use this tactical awesome body armor”

[misty mango]

police use soft armour because sitting in a car all day sucks ass in plate carriers

[stuck hazel]

What?

[lean gale]

Police use soft armor because their uniforms where as some wear PC

[misty mango]

they live in that shit

[lean gale]

Depends where you are

[misty mango]

and not everywhere issue plate carriers

[ashen edge]

apparently its can stop just shy of m2 ap (according to oxides tests)

[misty mango]

depends on what

[pulsar tusk]

Id rather have more coverage + more round stopping than higher caliber stopping

Even then i can use a fras

[lean gale]

Rifle threats

[misty mango]

my brother in christ
plates will stop more rounds

[pulsar tusk]

Which i have fras

[lean gale]

Some states more rifles

[ashen edge]

the PD here wears 3a vests and have PCs to wear over the uniform

[lean gale]

Yup

[stuck hazel]

Ask any police officer who actively is prepared to be shot at, they don’t use soft armour. Soft armour is used by police who are aware they could be shot at but they don’t want to be uncomfortable in their vehicles wearing actual armour

[pulsar tusk]

A ceramic plate wont stop as many rounds as kevlar

[misty mango]

when facing a rifle threat they tend to up armour if they have the ability

[misty mango]

it will

[pulsar tusk]

Yes, like most people

[stuck hazel]

Soldiers don’t rely on soft armour

[misty mango]

especially in the same spot

[pulsar tusk]

If i knew i was getting shot at, sure, id throw on my PC

Id still rather have soft armor

[ashen edge]

most casualties are from shrapnel -_-

[pulsar tusk]

I feel vulnerable in pc

[misty mango]

thats literally the topic of converstaion

getting shot at

[pulsar tusk]

Id rather use kevlar

In all honesty

Knowing my area

[ashen edge]

use both

[pulsar tusk]

Nobody would be committing crime with a high caliber

[misty mango]

MBAV inserts

[pulsar tusk]

I have solarplexus inserts

[ashen edge]

any standard issue OTV from the past 25 years

[pulsar tusk]

And some super low level steel plates i was using for target practice

[misty mango]

IOTV's are ass tbf

[lean gale]

But you gotta Understand you are going to struggle to strip off a chest rig, soft armor underneath, any load bearing equipment and clothes, plate carriers with a quick release system is a must for any life threatening situation IF You fall in water with a vest on you will drown,

[pulsar tusk]

Could be a good backing plate, or in this case front plate

[misty mango]

muh spinal compression

[ashen edge]

i miss mine

[pulsar tusk]

Dude kevlar vests are held together by 2 velcro straps

[lean gale]

Ur equipment

[pulsar tusk]

A zipper

[misty mango]

your clothing

[pulsar tusk]

Its the same shit as a PC

[misty mango]

a PC is one piece

[pulsar tusk]

there are kevlar vests rhat have mag pouches and stuff too

[lean gale]

Nah it’s hard to drag you to a safe spot with soft armor

[misty mango]

this

[lean gale]

When everything falls off you

[misty mango]

dragging sucks ass

but

[pulsar tusk]

Again im not in a warzone

Im in new jersey

[misty mango]

(a warzone)

[lean gale]

That’s not the case

Active shooter

[stuck hazel]

Soft armour doesnt work as well

[ashen edge]

my 2003 6b23 has the same attachment system as a PC

[stuck hazel]

You get get very similar coverage with plates and side plates

[pulsar tusk]

I dont walk around with a PC in my car or on me

[lean gale]

Home defence

[pulsar tusk]

I dont have a conceal permit either im not even old enough

[lean gale]

You would do it anyway

Lol

[twin creek]

i dont care what you or anyone says, never use kevlar. the most purcahsed gun in the u.s is the ar-15. Kevlar aint gonna do shit

[pulsar tusk]

Most purchased gun does not mean most used in crime

[stuck hazel]

Why would you consciously make yourself vulnerable to bullets that civilians have just because you don’t think those will be the bullets used against you

[misty mango]

i mean
you are more likely to get mugged by a guy with a pistol

but

3a is still meh

[ashen edge]

just wear both -_-

[pulsar tusk]

Again there are backing inserts to increase protection

[twin creek]

yeah which they will shoot you in your legs cause who wants to risk murder

[pulsar tusk]

Bro thinks hes a juggernaut

[misty mango]

more likely to die to a shot to the legs

arteries

[lean gale]

Facts

[twin creek]

pray they miss if you religious

[ashen edge]

kevlar isnt that heavy bro...

[misty mango]

thats why police dont shoot for your legs

[pulsar tusk]

You guys seem like the type of people to bring tourniquets to an airsoft match

[lean gale]

Lol

[misty mango]

i carry TQ's because 1. it goes with the kit and 2.
i have seen arterial cuts at my site before lmao

[pulsar tusk]

💀

[twin creek]

in my area of the u.s they are trained to dump a mag into your chest, i dont think it matter where they hit

[misty mango]

[ashen edge]

detroit airsoft

[misty mango]

mfs cut themselves on glass

way too often

slip and slash your thigh

[pulsar tusk]

3 center mass one to the head is what cops are trained in NJ

[misty mango]

and yet in reality
they shoot center mass

[ashen edge]

they just blast you till you stop moving here lol

[misty mango]

because after that first shot
the head will move

[lean gale]

Nah bro you really seem like the type of guy to get armor and expect to use it but never have any reason or under just because soft armor is good in tarkov it’s good in real life

[misty mango]

and youre trained to shoot til you stop

[lean gale]

Who wants to get shot in soft armor

[misty mango]

not until you die

[lean gale]

Who wants to not be able to strip it off

[twin creek]

not hpd

[misty mango]

wearing soft armour sucks in heat aswell lmao

[pulsar tusk]

Bro genuinely thinks wearing kevlar is like being in a straightjacket or something

[misty mango]

shit wraps all around you

keeps heat in

[lean gale]

Go die in ur kit then

[misty mango]

also not super breathable

[ashen edge]

you are all making this way more complicated than its really is lol

[misty mango]

this guy just generally has the most ass takes

[twin creek]

its simple, kevlar doodoo

[pulsar tusk]

“Uh… the reason police and military use kevlar is because… THEY DONT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR PLATES!!! THATS WHY”

[lean gale]

When your slumped over and having people try strip things off that they don’t know how to take off of you

[misty mango]

the military wear plates tf?

[lean gale]

Like if EMT was to try help you

[misty mango]

what do you think is inside IOTV's

[lean gale]

They would struggle to get it off you

[misty mango]

ESAPI's

hard ceramic plates

[ashen edge]

both -_-

[twin creek]

the cops in my school run lvl3 some thats some ps

[misty mango]

yes i know bandit

[lean gale]

Get a plate carrier with quick release

[misty mango]

but the kevlar is for fragmentation and as a backer

[pulsar tusk]

The quotations mean it is not my opinion

[twin creek]

i mean tbf cops wear both kevlar and plates in most cases

[ashen edge]

indeed because ESAPI and XSAPI plates are ICW plates

[twin creek]

fair enough, but my statement stands

[misty mango]

thats why when the fancy guys get AVS's theyre MBAV versions

with the kevlar backer insert

[pulsar tusk]

I own esapis

So stop crying that i dont run plates

[misty mango]

youve literally said you wouldnt

we never said you dont

[pulsar tusk]

I wouldnt, i have it, but i wouldnt use it

[misty mango]

then why do you have it

[pulsar tusk]

Its situational I should say in better terms

Theres not many situations id use it*

If i had to go somewhere i knew id be getting shot, id wear a pc, like police do for the same reason

Which will most likely never happen

Because i am a CIVILIAN

Which is impossible for people in this server to understand

[ashen edge]

me when i must have have EXACTLY what spec ops is using

[pulsar tusk]

I got cyberbullied for not having $2300 nvg

State of tarkov discord

[ashen edge]

XD

i like Kevlar vests, i love combined vests, i do not like plate only PCs

[pulsar tusk]

Id have to agree

I would probably run my PC if it was more concealable and had side panels

[ashen edge]

if im getting shot at i want a combined OTV with a fragmentation collar

and a helmet but whatever

[pulsar tusk]

Do you have any real kit or just surplus

Some of that russian shit you have is gotta be expensive as hell

I just hope its not from kills

[ashen edge]

like 200 for the 6b23-1 and another 200 for the 6b45

[ashen edge]

im p sure one is posthumously acquired tbh

:/

[pulsar tusk]

Thats pretty cheap actually unless its empty

[ashen edge]

kevlar was intact the seller has more if you dont mind pilfered gear

but from what i know you do

[pulsar tusk]

I do not want anything from unnamed conflict

I dislike ebay war profiteering

[ashen edge]

far as i see people collect and use shit used in wars so i personally dont see a huge problem with it

[ashen edge]

i can understand that

[pulsar tusk]

This is really the first time in history this kind of selling and buying of active front gear is possible

[ashen edge]

i saw some shit coming out of Afghanistan and the middle east but recently the war profiteerign market has been flooded with shit from the unamed war

[pulsar tusk]

Yeah but you didnt see people selling helmets blown to bits by artillery and rifles back then

Atleast not that i recall

[ashen edge]

True, I think it’s mainly due to the geographic location of the intended buyers

[pulsar tusk]

People scoop up anything, call it orc or something, and write Z and sell it for $200

[pulsar tusk]

Fair plus both sides have people who can loot and ship things much easier

[ashen edge]

The history of corrupt military sales and surplus sellers def had something to do with it

Just the entire region in general

but i think the conversation should stop here lest we enter server inappropriate topics

[snow scarab]

lol

no

[snow scarab]

wrong. any ESAPI H and past and all XSAPIs are standalone

fr

he’s tryna be like you my boi

lol

[misty mango]

its because theyre so comically big

torso diaper looking ass

[snow scarab]

actually

with plates in, it fits amazingly

it’s pretty snug and all the weight is on my chest and hips

[ashen edge]

Thanks, I didn’t know that

[snow scarab]

the IOTV is apparently one of the highest quality RBAV plate carriers around

[ashen edge]

Bro got the BCT camelbak on it

[snow scarab]

i ain’t gonna buy another one lol

[ashen edge]

$60 at the exchange

[snow scarab]

it works, it’s decent quality

[ashen edge]

No I just don’t like the idea of having shrapnel blow through my arteries

[ashen edge]

They do indeed work

[snow scarab]

in reality, if shrapnel is close and fast enough to cut arteries, you’re dead by the concussion anyways

[ashen edge]

If you are trying to tell me shrapnel isn’t lethal I’m going to have to disagree, I’d rather not get hit a spot I can’t tourniquet

Like the neck

[storm peak]

nothing is stopping you from putting a hasty tourniquet around your neck habibi

[ashen edge]

I’ve seen artillery shrapnel (not in person) pierce someone’s skull through the high cut helmet ear cut

I think I want a fragmentation collar

And a full size helmet

[ashen edge]

FR

[snow scarab]

sure, i have too. most likely it was right god damn next to them. cause i’ve seen guys have grenades go off right in front of them and the shrapnel cut them sure, but it didn’t pierce an artery in his neck

[ashen edge]

Nope, landed in a field 50yards away, everyone else was fine

dude got unluck and caught shrapnel behind the ear

[snow scarab]

oh, you mean the softest and most vulnerable spot of your skull??

[empty sorrel]

Of note though, they may not pass nij standards for BFD against their highest threats without the backer

[granite tartan]

That is frankly the dumbest thing you’ve said

[ashen edge]

If it can go through a skull the it sure as hell can go through soft tissue

[snow scarab]

you know jack about shrapnel and how it functions. quiet.

[empty sorrel]

Not really. Small explosives aren't going to have lethal shockwaves outside of point blank, (not to say you'd be having a good day) while their frag range is like 15-30m

[ashen edge]

Please stop, none of the shit you are saying makes sense

The human skull< soft tissues and arteries

Like bruh

[empty sorrel]

Just wrap yourself in soft armor. Problem solved

[granite tartan]

You serious right?

[ashen edge]

That’s what I’m saying

[granite tartan]

I also took the fema anti terrorism class

[ashen edge]

Based fema enjoyer

[granite tartan]

It’s stupid all of it

I had to take is-300 500 and 700

All nonsense

[ashen edge]

Lol indeed

[granite tartan]

The anti terror class was interesting tho

[ashen edge]

Lesson of the day from fema: don’t die

[granite tartan]

It was coordinated disaster relief

[coarse laurel]

@snow scarab still in plastic

[snow scarab]

that the ruck?

[coarse laurel]

Yea

[ashen edge]

What model is it

[snow scarab]

the new new one

[ashen edge]

Looks like a hip crusher from basic

[coarse laurel]

It’s the MOLLE 4k

[ashen edge]

I got stress fractures from one lol

[coarse laurel]

Wow I’ve never gotten a new one before and I didn’t realize it came with the straps for rigging

I got it for free from the airborne school, I knew some people since I sometimes work there and we are in the same brigade

[ashen edge]

There might be a reason it was free 💀

[coarse laurel]

They just ordered too much

[snow scarab]

it’s not issued to him

the lucky fuck

it’s literally just a modernized alice pack

[coarse laurel]

I actually was issued another one but it’s worn

[snow scarab]

ah

[ashen edge]

at fort sill they stopped issuing them cos of the increased hip fractures that coincided with their use

[coarse laurel]

Since I’m in a airborne/ranger unit

[snow scarab]

i’ll buy the new one from you

[ashen edge]

All the graduates got to keep theirs

[coarse laurel]

Lol

[coarse laurel]

What’s your mos

[snow scarab]

fixed the positioning of my plates

used to have them wayyy too low

[ashen edge]

I was going to be a 68W

then on the ruck back from the forge i annihilated my knee

[coarse laurel]

I’m a 68w right now at ranger school lol

[ashen edge]

Wish it was me

[coarse laurel]

As In I work there

Damn you got Med boarded?

[ashen edge]

I spent 5 months waiting for a surgery before the army told me to suck it and kicked me out

[ashen edge]

“Existing prior too service, your tendons are to long”

Only a little mad lol

[snow scarab]

they still use live pigs at whiskey school?

[ashen edge]

What?

[snow scarab]

in terms of organ size, functionality, and their position inside the body cavity, pigs are used for medical training

[coarse laurel]

That’s for BCT3

We do use pig throats

And usually it’s live goats

[snow scarab]

ah

[coarse laurel]

Not pigs

[snow scarab]

i’m thinking organ transplants

never mind

you can get a pig liver, kidneys, and spleen iirc

if for some reason you need a spleen

[granite tartan]

Still too low

[snow scarab]

lol

no it isn’t

it’s on top of my collar bone/sternum

any higher it’s in my throat

[snow scarab]

idfk. think he’s just being a dick to be a dick

[pulsar tusk]

I dont personally think the capability of hearing better is all that much worth the 30% head coverage lost when wearing high cut, which is why im buying an ach and gonna slap it with some mich rails

You can still fit headsets in those helmets anyways

[pulsar tusk]

Your plate carrier should be providing protection to your crotch via the bottom of the plate, any higher and you’re losing protection on vital spots

[snow scarab]

💀

[pulsar tusk]

I just readjusted mine too to be super tight, how tight in reality should PCs be, like 0 movement? Because its a little restrictive

Its not squeezing me or anything

A tiny bit i guess if i sit or fully breathe in

I should probably loosen it

[ashen edge]

i agree, i have a very large dome and i would like it not to be perforated with shrapnel

i would pose that a standard sized vest with plate and Kevlar backer dont hinder you mobility as much as people think

[snow scarab]

ehhh

shit like an IOTV can really hinder side to side mobility

@low fox is it bad that after actually putting plates and fitting it properly i’m ok with this thing now? lol

[ashen edge]

i used one for a bit and never had any issues

[pulsar tusk]

First off you replied to a joke comment, second off, if that were true, people wouldnt tape tourniquets to their helmets and belts and rigs and everywhere they can fit one

[snow scarab]

you also only did basic. i’m guessing you didn’t do shoot houses or clearing streets and shit

wha

[snow scarab]

that’s kinda the point? proper care measures and all that

the only thing you really need to worry about is hitting a bone

ohhhh

[pulsar tusk]

Fair point i didnt think you were taking it into account for some reason

[snow scarab]

it’s actually pretty hard to mess this cummerbund up

[ashen edge]

and i would gander you haven't done any of that either, tell me mr operator what combat experience do you have, have you done any propper training?

[snow scarab]

i’m a 12B

[pulsar tusk]

[snow scarab]

i’m properly trained in clearing houses and streets, know how an IOTV feels when having to use it around a corner or trying to retain any kind of stealth

it sucks at that

it really limits mobility in your side to side motion of your upper body

[ashen edge]

i have some doubts tbh given the shrapnel comment

[snow scarab]

that’s just something that happens when wearing any kind of vest retaining kevlar on the sides

[snow scarab]

what do you need? my cac? how about the IOTV sitting next to me right now? what about my unit patch? also got plenty of uniforms i can send a picture of

your choice

[pulsar tusk]

Pretty sure he just served but didnt tour

[ashen edge]

i only did basic but i would think that the danger of shrapnel would be pretty basic

[snow scarab]

even got that shit ass wallet still. although it’s breaking apart now

[pulsar tusk]

Raggedy desk

[ashen edge]

i wanna see the IOTV tbh havent seen one in a bit

[snow scarab]

yep lol.

[pulsar tusk]

Im avoiding signing for selective service till unnamed conflict ends

If it ends by then

[snow scarab]

i took the etool off

cause fuck it

[pulsar tusk]

I dont like seeing the camo mixing

Hurts my head

[snow scarab]

i don’t either

[ashen edge]

why was it upside down?

[snow scarab]

easier for someone else to take out for me either way to dig a shit hole

[pulsar tusk]

I have one in my 45L

[snow scarab]

someone else was grabbing it no matter what, might as well make it easier

[ashen edge]

also whats with the UCP pouches we got OCP ones in basic?

[snow scarab]

it’s technically not. going over seas i’d get something a little different. lemme find a pic of all 3 carriers issued right now

[snow scarab]

i did too. i’m NG so we get fucked in the pouch department

everything else is OCP pretty much tho

[ashen edge]

bro larps on paycheck, nice gig

i wish i had gone guard tbh

[pulsar tusk]

What national guard?

[ashen edge]

all the guard dudes from basic already had 6month promotions before basic

[pulsar tusk]

Did you know ROTC makes you an officer

My mind was blown

[snow scarab]

@low fox gen 4 version of the IOTV. much shorter and thinner plate bag and the kevlar is moved to the cummerbund. much nicer to wear and easier to do basic shit with

[snow scarab]

college ROTC. not high school

[pulsar tusk]

Yeah ik

I didnt really put two and two together

[ashen edge]

did you know i cant post the word sh!t

weird

[snow scarab]

and this is the latest issue shit. MSV plate carrier. utilizes a super dumb plate system, completely laser cut. however it’s way more modular and can take shit like tubes

[ashen edge]

anyways im a proper sh!tbag i couldnt have been an officer

[snow scarab]

can also be easily modified to take placards pretty easily

also gets rid of the kevlar in the cummerbund but keeps it in the main plate bag per army regulation

[snow scarab]

i just realized this guy has his mags super far up @low fox

[ashen edge]

he tastes his mags to see if they are loaded

[snow scarab]

apparently

[pulsar tusk]

Its ok his sidearm is an AR pistol

[snow scarab]

hey, at least m855A1 is lead free

fr 😂

but honestly, once it’s sized properly and has plates in it, it feels amazing

just wouldn’t be my first choice

would rather the gen 4

allows for much better movement and capabilities

[ashen edge]

chamber looking like a emo girls arm XD

[snow scarab]

and has overall better protection while giving less weight

[snow scarab]

with the old mags sure

the EPMs and gen 3 pmags feed it properly

[pulsar tusk]

Try to shoot old steel mags without the last 3 shots failing to feed challenge:

[snow scarab]

lol

i got issued a 30 round magazine with a black follower for OSUT

[ashen edge]

the dudes trying to qual with the old grey mags

one chicks magazine base plate fell off mid qual

[snow scarab]

little bit of 550 cord later @low fox gets rid of most of the kevlar on the sides but allows it to fit the exact same.

need a GP pouch

[cerulean kayak]

bro he obv special forces

[pallid depot]

oakley si sunburn kind of day

[storm peak]

the whole ass basic training wallet

[granite tartan]

I’m kidding

[granite tartan]

He works at a gas station

[low fox]

Anyone need some gear london based dm me got lots of flavours

[granite tartan]

Breaking rules

Tsk tsk

[low fox]

Nah im just selling gear

[granite tartan]

not allowed

[low fox]

Oh my bad

[wind cave]

bezos quality is the best quality

dont insult the 'zos shovl

this lvl4 plate i got off amazon is just as good the RMA

[granite tartan]

@snow scarab academy sports has mil discount

I am ROLLING

[snow scarab]

oh fuck yeah

[granite tartan]

It’s 10%

Ain’t toooo bad man

[coarse laurel]

He’s a guardsman

Kinda late to the party

Hehe

@snow scarab you need to go to ranger school my guy

[ashen edge]

so i learned lol, seems a better deal than active

[coarse laurel]

Depends

On what you do

[snow scarab]

would love to lol

[coarse laurel]

You need to go while I still work here

I’m here till 2025-2026

I got a minute

[snow scarab]

jesus

maybe if i switch to active

[plush topaz]

I watch those ranger competitions

They're pretty wild

[viscid vector]

@snow scarab you got some nice kits. Personally I hated the IOTV’s just too bulky

[snow scarab]

it’s bulky yeah, but it’s the best BALCS carrier around

the gen 4 is where it’s at though

[viscid vector]

True. Haven’t had the pleasure of trying out the 4’s. I got out January of 22.

[snow scarab]

ah gotcha

the MSV is the newest shit now but i’ve heard anything from it’s amazing to it’s hot ass

[viscid vector]

They look more comfortable though

Shit, that’s military gear 101, pay out the ass for contracts on dated/shit gear unless you’re hi speed lol

[snow scarab]

meh. more optional side kevlar protection but otherwise it’s still kinda meh at best

[ashen edge]

Mmm expired Kevlar

[pulsar tusk]

How much

Pasgt vest based

[ashen edge]

Like 75

eBay auction

Very neat

[empty sorrel]

I need one to go with my m81 Kevlar pants

[ashen edge]

The EOD suit?

The OG one?

[pulsar tusk]

W price

I paid $100 for mine

[ashen edge]

Indeed

My collection of US gear is growing

[pulsar tusk]

I want an eod suit so bad

If i could get one id be set for life

[ashen edge]

I’m working on my ALICE WEBBING SET UP

[pulsar tusk]

Did you see that russian helmet that was on ebay

The zhs or something

Zhs 1

Ill see if i can find it

[ashen edge]

I’ve seen a lot

[pulsar tusk]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295679967932?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=OWl__FP9R4-&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=LvkiuGjbTDG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I kinda want it

I might go for it because every time he relists it, he drops the price

[ashen edge]

Hmm

[pulsar tusk]

If its $300 ill buy it

Rn its like $360

[ashen edge]

Oh god

[pulsar tusk]

I wanna verify its legitimacy first

[pulsar tusk]

Chinese

[empty sorrel]

Yeah

[pulsar tusk]

I wanna get one of these, shoot it, if its good results ill keep one for myself and swap the screws with flatheads

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304886914125?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Q_gmMktpRXq&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=LvkiuGjbTDG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[ashen edge]

Fucking awesome

Got pics?

[vagrant forum]

How is the Ferro Concepts rigs compared to Tactical Tailor when it comes to quality?

[plush topaz]

Ferro much better

[granite tartan]

Please don’t buy ferro

Buy Jpc or something ffs

@plush topaz holy dear god

[plush topaz]

Sup

[granite tartan]

Wearing armor is awful

[plush topaz]

First full day of armour is awful yes

You gonna be sore

[granite tartan]

It’s my first summer day in armor

80 something degrees out

I was cooking

[plush topaz]

The chafe is real

[empty sorrel]

I can get some later when I get home

[ancient grail]

Thank you for the listing im buying it

[coarse laurel]

Tactical tailor just feels outdated

I used to run around with the fite light

[ancient grail]

300 starting bid 💀

[coarse laurel]

It was great at the time

[snow scarab]

lol

shit sucks

at least it ain’t raining

[pulsar tusk]

He keeps relisting it lower

It was $365 last time he had it listed

[granite tartan]

It was supposed to

[snow scarab]

hot AND rainy sucks dick

that’s when the real chafe/weight hits

[ancient grail]

Yeah because they're worth 100 bucks max

[obsidian wolf]

Send me a photo of what you got and I’ll recommend product to help

I’m familiar with 2 kinds for both overt and covert armor

[obsidian wolf]

Yeah these suck Monkey penis in the heat

[obsidian wolf]

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