irl-gear

[snow scarab]

this is actually decently modern

[pulsar tusk]

I said looks like not performs like

[snow scarab]

doesn’t look like it either

“the most up to date body armor available” lol

[pulsar tusk]

I have one of those

Just the chest part

Thats why i said it looks similar

I mean to be fair it will all look similar they use the same size kevlar inserts right

[snow scarab]

nooo

the IBA is front closing

and is one complete piece

[pulsar tusk]

You are aboutta make me pull mine out

[snow scarab]

this is it “disassembled”

the entire thing is made of kevlar

[pulsar tusk]

The inserts come out though

[snow scarab]

the woodland one? that’s a PASGT

[pulsar tusk]

No

I have an iraq one

Its empty though

[snow scarab]

sure, but they don’t look similar. the IBA has full protection. every single inch was covered. vs the IOTV has a shaped insert

so traditional soft body armor look for the IOTV vs just a fuckin square of kevlar for the IBA

[pulsar tusk]

So without the original plates its hopeless

[snow scarab]

what?

the kevlar is what i’m talking about here

[pulsar tusk]

By plates i mean kevlar

[snow scarab]

yes

[pulsar tusk]

Kevlar panels or whatnot

[snow scarab]

the actual body armor plates are similar

[pulsar tusk]

I have some iiia kevlar that would fit in the iotv

All i have is a plate carrier with esapis and a kevlar vest

[sand rover]

shit looks like garbage

[snow scarab]

it is

[pulsar tusk]

Wait, esapis are ceramic???

[snow scarab]

yes

almost every single country uses ceramic plates

[snow scarab]

what revision are they?

[pulsar tusk]

Then my plate carrier has ceramic plates damn

[pulsar tusk]

No clue

Ill send i guess

[snow scarab]

why would that be a damn?

that’s a good thing

[pulsar tusk]

Damn as in gah damn

They are a bit old

[snow scarab]

oh those are like original ESAPIs

still good plates

i’d recommend a kevlar backer though

enhances its multi hit capability

[pulsar tusk]

I have tiny solar plexus kevlar sheets

[snow scarab]

idk much about the older ESAPIs but the newer ones are dope as fick

[pulsar tusk]

Good to know i got good plates

Is it unoptimal to run 2 esapis because theyre kinda heavy

Should i have something else in the back

And then i have 2 carriers

This is in a family situation

Not solo

So like having more is probably better

[snow scarab]

you should always be running front and back plates

weigh one plate if you can

[pulsar tusk]

Yes i meant a cheaper one that is lighter but still iiia

Like a steel with spall coat

[snow scarab]

fuck no

steel with a spall coat is heavier and shittier

also your plates are level 4

not 3a

[pulsar tusk]

Then a different ceramic

[pulsar tusk]

I meant 4

I was still thinking of kevlar

[snow scarab]

if you wanna buy more plates, RMA

cheap and gtg but heavier

[pulsar tusk]

I want something lighter

Because 2 plates, battle belt, guns and 45l bag is a bit much

Ill have to get used to it

[snow scarab]

lmfaooo

[severe ember]

[pulsar tusk]

One i said for the back plate

Two spall coating lasts as much as ceramic does

[storm peak]

early 2000s dude

[sand rover]

You just pinged me 3 hours and 20 minutes after what I posted

[storm peak]

i was playing stardew valley with the wifey

nts complains about the early gens of mass produced body armor as if he has ever used it

majority of yall have never been issued gear

seems quite silly goose to me

[twilit cape]

Uh I have been

[sand rover]

I only commented on appearance, not gonna go into more than that

Either way, I sleep

[timber fog]

Not worth the risk

Steel is for targets

Don’t be a target

[snow scarab]

no. if you take an edge hit with a steel plate, you get shrapnel. you take an edge hit with ceramic you are fine

[twilit cape]

there is this bag thing you can buy to put steel plates in to stop that

but id honestly go with ceramics

[granite tartan]

The projectile hits the plate and it explodes

[twilit cape]

I know this

[thin apex]

How many times do you plan on getting shot?

[plush topaz]

[pulsar tusk]

My point was spall coating can take as many rounds as ceramic in most cases before it starts spalling vs before the plate becomes useless in ceramics case

Its like 6 rounds for both aint it

[pulsar tusk]

Is that not just a blank ar500 plate i dont see any coating

Also most cringe reaction image ever

[misty mango]

no clue but meme funny

[pulsar tusk]

Most ceramics take 1-3 rounds to 6-8 rounds before shattering

🤨

[thin apex]

Still better than blending your neck with metal shards

[pulsar tusk]

Id rather take metal shards than a round to my heart

[thin apex]

How many times are you gonna feet shot square in the chest before you seek cover?

[pulsar tusk]

I said most

[thin apex]

If you get shot 6-8 times directly in the chest that’s your fault

[pulsar tusk]

I dont even own any steel im simply observing info

[thin apex]

Well according to my calculations ceramic is better

[pulsar tusk]

No doubt

Like i said spall coating and fraglock

[thin apex]

Just use this

[pulsar tusk]

Fraglock can take 6 rounds before spalling

[thin apex]

Let the guy behind you deal with it

[pulsar tusk]

That top one actually sends it back at the enemy

Lmao

[snow scarab]

no. modern ceramic plates can take a dozen+ rounds

[snow scarab]

not even most. most plates will take a dozen rounds and be fine, especially military plates

[snow scarab]

edge protection. spalling will happen if you get hit on the edge

[sand rover]

which is funny too

cus that's something ar-500 shit tries to use as an advertising point

"our steel plates have full protection ratin right up to the edge, trust me"

[snow scarab]

i mean it does

just the spall happens lol

[sand rover]

so you die anyways

yaaay

[sand rover]

so like half a second of somebody holding down the funny button

[plush topaz]

Yep

Soft armour too. Only smaller rounds obviously

Aint nobody getting shot 50 times in the chest tho. You're bound to get hit in other extremities too

[sand rover]

and/or dropped to the ground already

[misty mango]

almost guaranteed that unless youve experienced it before
you will fall over

your body will shut down temporarily

[plush topaz]

I was hit once and I fell

[granite tartan]

The problem isnt spall from the plate

Its from the round

and it doesn't matter how much copium you put on the plate

It still doesnt stop the round fragmentating

[misty mango]

thats one thing that i always see people talk about
"bullets knock you over"
no
your reaction to the shot does

[plush topaz]

You hit the fcking dirt

You have no control

Your brain forces you

[misty mango]

yummy mud

[granite tartan]

why you ping me

[plush topaz]

I don't know

I think I meant to reply to @misty mango

[misty mango]

ive been shot before
probably by accident but i had some buckshot hit my arm
i was just completely confused

hopped into the ditch next to me

[grand portal]

I shot myself with birdshot once, too close to a steel target and got peppered lol.

Almost lost an eye, thank god i wear glasses

[sand rover]

I heard a story once of gun range where they put the outdoor pistol range downrange from the clay shooting range

and some guys in their 20s were getting peppered, and complained to the range officer and all he said was "uh huh..."

and then walked away

[wind cave]

do you mfs ever think about how lucky you were to get shot and survive

like all the people that caught a shot to the one wrong spot by accident or just being the unlucky one

[misty mango]

nah

i just tell people that its a skill issue

[sand rover]

lol

[twilit cape]

yea “skill issue”

[misty mango]

if you get shot and die its a skill issue

dont know how else to say it

[proud hazel]

too bad its aluminum and wont hold up to much more then airsoft

[twilit cape]

Fucking lol

[empty sorrel]

Steel is only suitable for helmets, where the reduced bfd is actually critical

Though other materials so it better

[empty sorrel]

Gotta love it

with or without visor?

6lb without

visor is 2.45lb

bout a pound is probably the harness

if it takes an extra 2lb to not cave my skull in from 44mag, ill take it

[twilit cape]

I mean how many Americans are gonna be running those type of nods ?

[empty sorrel]

shell weight =/= helmet weight

[snow scarab]

i felt my neck compress just reading that

[empty sorrel]

are you gonna pull out the spec sheet for some ops-core helmet

[snow scarab]

my back hurts now

[empty sorrel]

its actually pretty comfy, but yeah its meant for doorkickers not soldiers

[twilit cape]

I mean can always use it to build your neck muscles

[snow scarab]

then wear an ACH? im confused

ACHs will eat 44 magnum

for half the weight

[empty sorrel]

eh.. still definitly a TBI,

[snow scarab]

nope

[empty sorrel]

but probably not fatal

[snow scarab]

i’ve seen the BFD on a 44 on an ACH

it’s pretty fuckin minimal

like 20mm

[empty sorrel]

like 40

[snow scarab]

that’s an ECH

[twilit cape]

To be fair in that pic it Dosent even have the pads in there

[empty sorrel]

so the better version

[snow scarab]

not really

it’s UHMWPE

they deform more overall

[empty sorrel]

valid

mostly its just a novel collectors piece

dont intend to take it to war

my previus one was only 2lb lighterr

no issues other than the lack of a counterweight

[twilit cape]

I just have my one main helmet with my nods

[empty sorrel]

this one is a much lower cut so its naturally more balanced

[twilit cape]

A steel helmet would be kinda sketch I could imagine

[empty sorrel]

every country used em for decades

they have their place

[twilit cape]

That was before what helmets could be made of now

I imagine if they could have done it how we do now they would have

Unless your Russia

Then you probably would have stuck to steel

[granite tartan]

Opscore doesn’t even reccomend wearing their rf1 helmet for extended periods of time

Yeah Ik

This is how you can tell people don’t sit in their stuff for extended periods of time

Lmao

Longest I’ve been in a helmet was 6 hours

My helemt is comfterable so it’s cool

That sticks

[snow scarab]

jesus fuck

[granite tartan]

Isn’t that when you iced that dude

[snow scarab]

and almost lost your nuts

[granite tartan]

Ain’t too bad

[snow scarab]

ah

[granite tartan]

We do a lot of pickups here with sled

Cause we have that federal building

Same with the Marshall service

[empty sorrel]

if you take into account that this thing is an XL, and is also an ultra-low cut, its not that much heavier

Ive got more where that came from

this thing is more than a standard low cut

versus

usefull for the average boot? no

useless? absoloutly not

[misty mango]

mfw i try to aim and hit my stock because the ear covers are fucking huge

that shits 8.5??

💀

ive worn 4lb helmets for a few hours and wanted to shoot myself

💀

8.5lbs

no counterweight

yeouch

[empty sorrel]

no issue for me

[twilit cape]

I mean your gonna die 90 percent of the time from a head shot even with a helmet

[empty sorrel]

how long would make you happy?

[twilit cape]

Probable not

[empty sorrel]

bout an hour so far

[twilit cape]

But I’m using combat or an “shtf” scenario as an example

[empty sorrel]

oh wait my bad

forgot I was in the no memes allowed server

Ive played beat saber in all my kit

as an experiment

cardio is cardio

cant wear the helmet

its a vr game

You seem to enjoy not having conversation

Ive had enough for now

"mostly its just a novel collectors piece"
"dont intend to take it to war"

[echo jay]

The last line of your about me checks out pretty well

[empty sorrel]

how dare you take an interest in and collect novel weapons and armor systems instead of consooming name brand overpriced gear to larp in

pretentious prick

[echo jay]

Meanwhile ilose actually uses this shit for a living and knows what he's talking about

[empty sorrel]

oh? your a tool? cool dont care

[echo jay]

Then shut up and go away lol

[twilit cape]

I mean to be fair he’s a cop right ?

[twilit cape]

Are those like shoes ?

[snow scarab]

that’s me

[snow scarab]

war vans pretty much

[twilit cape]

But there 500 bucks ?

[twilit cape]

Jeez

I personally like what I get

Don’t get me wrong there cool but I would put that towards boots or some nice hiking style boots

Dam

That’s pretty good

I recently sold of some guns

Yea also only have like two pairs of shoes

One for exercise another for everyday

[snow scarab]

GBRS sells a 320????

what size?

fuck

oh wait i thought you meant an m320 i’m fucking stupid

[pulsar tusk]

fellow militaria collector

i ran around in my helmet for the first time it was real good, the cushions were comfortable

it kinda actually was back heavy

without the nvg stuff

im sure it wont if i take off ir illuminator

[snow scarab]

abusing it to abuse it or abusing it to show boat it? lol

lol

oh fuck you

me high speed

you’re just extra unga bunga

[twilit cape]

Why aren’t parts sold publicly just curious?

[snow scarab]

pretty much

we all are unga bunga

you’re just advanced unga bunga

[twilit cape]

Hmm

[raw river]

Grug buy bug vision for when big chief stones pet wolf for unregistered spear

[pulsar tusk]

Big chief exiled multiple arrows per single draw of bowstring, grug give extra food for permission to use

[raw river]

big chief ignore stone tablet

tablet say shall not be infringed

[pulsar tusk]

Big chief entered cave, found obsidian arrow tips i purchase from thog, i go away long time from village

[raw river]

grug wear hardened leather, big chief spear no hurt grug

[twilit cape]

@raw river but there insane and a lobotomy will solve the issue

[raw river]

huh

[twilit cape]

You know who I’m taking about

[low fox]

New ruski drip

[plush topaz]

I hate to break it to you but Fort is Ukrainian

[low fox]

I hate to break it to you, but you're both right and wrong

[plush topaz]

[low fox]

They're two separate companies lol

Fort is a Russian company known for making armour such as the Redut and Defender, Vant, etc etc

Dunno what the ukranian Fort company does

Armour too I'd assume

[plush topaz]

They make guns

[low fox]

That's it!

[plush topaz]

They build the Tavor under license for instance

[low fox]

That's the one yeah, dunno if Russian Fort has dipped their toes in the firearms industry

I believe they made a pistol

Fort also makes a vest called the Korsar, which is confusing as there's a Ukranian vest under the exact same name

[novel valley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5YWXrZdNpA&t=933s&pp=ygUXVGhpcyBzY29wZSBhaW1zIGZvciB5b3U%3D

[snow scarab]

you’ve seen the irony right?

[plush topaz]

No

And I love bratwurst

[snow scarab]

lol

[plush topaz]

I have the receipts

[strong jetty]

There was some antiteror drills with a CBRN threat element in my city and i saw in the photos theese interesting backpacks which seem to be conected to the gasmasks of the operators. I cant seem to find anything on google about it. Do you guys know what this is or how it works?

[snow scarab]

they are pretty much giant filters

normal 40mm filters are good for around 4-24 hours in a threat zone depending on the threat

those backpacks can go for a couple days. also gives more oxygen and filtered air for better breathing overall

[strong jetty]

interesting, thanks!

[plush topaz]

@strong jetty where?

[strong jetty]

warsaw poland

[plush topaz]

Cool. Mira makes a back respirator. Not the same as the one you saw tho. https://www.mirasafety.com/products/mb-90-powered-air-purifying-respirator-papr

Love seeing guys doing work in full CBRN kit

So cool

[snow scarab]

fuck yeah. i guessed polish lol

[pulsar tusk]

Mira safety try not to make the most expensive stuff possible challenge

[plush topaz]

Their back respirator seems fairly priced tbh

All their masks are too expensive though

[pulsar tusk]

I have one of their filters and a canteen i got off of a friend

Filter is still wrapped new

So decent to have

[plush topaz]

I have their c7m mask

[pulsar tusk]

That mask is pretty ugly

[plush topaz]

Ugly is good. Means it's scary

[pulsar tusk]

Scary means lack of empathy

Nobody will think twice killing you

[plush topaz]

Definitely true

Spooky

I'll put rainbows on it so people don't kill me

[pulsar tusk]

I wish i had a gas mask that wasnt horrifying

[compact dagger]

Just call it a hatecrime if they do kill you

anti lgbt or some shit

and sue the fuck out of them

[fluid plover]

They look like tactical toilet paper rolls

[plush topaz]

I'll come back from The dead to sue them

[compact dagger]

or sue them when they get killed

idk

[compact dagger]

Good for tactical shitting

But in a position where your teammate is braced against you from the back and not the handshake version

[fluid plover]

lmao

[compact dagger]

ngl to me looks like swedish fasheda 2

[plush topaz]

Similar

The forsheda has angular lenses

Is angular even a word lmao

Probably a better mask too. 6 straps?

[compact dagger]

For F2 yea

Downside for the F2 is that it doesn't have a little loop like the newer masks we have on the back side

so sometimes it might be harder to pull it down to properly fit the mesh

[plush topaz]

What do you mean loop

Like for your hands to grab?

[compact dagger]

Basically on bottom part of this mesh there is also a small loop/tab or whatever you call it

so you can grab it easierand pull it down properly

or pull it up i guess

[plush topaz]

I see

[silk oracle]

Shit i was there few days ago.

[stuck hazel]

Intimidation>everything else

you got your pants yet?

[plush topaz]

Yes. But they were shipped to my buddy's place. He's the cop that ordered them for me

Gotta grab from his spot

[stuck hazel]

theres always something when you order nice shit lol

[plush topaz]

Every time

[storm peak]

@snow scarab since i know you all into the gear thing, could ya find me a spiritus mk5 with the 556 and 308 insert please, preferably in multicam

also i need to figure out a barrett magazine solution for my kit

[snow scarab]

spiritus website?

i don’t get what you’re asking 😭

like something similar?

[storm peak]

they oos

out of stock for multi which is the issue

as i have the maritime setup

[snow scarab]

mf im working

[storm peak]

and im playing mw2 campaign

i need solutions while im drunk

otherwise i wont buy

[snow scarab]

OG or 2022?

[storm peak]

2022

new campign

[snow scarab]

it’s a banger of a campaign

[storm peak]

just started

[snow scarab]

you can switch all guns to single fire for ultra realism if you want lol

[storm peak]

i dont have have that unlocked yet

never played

now only if this actually had realism

missles dont fly like that

[snow scarab]

lmfao

[snow scarab]

no i mean like in all modes you can do that

and then do it on realism mode

shits hard as fuck

[storm peak]

i mean ive cleared every single cod that has had realism, am a cod completitionist...

fucking al qaeda having full kits is rich

this campaign is rich

qods force is not anywhere equiped to be giving dual tube nv

ask me how i know

[snow scarab]

lmfao

it’s supposed to be an even type fight

that’s how it’s always been

you’ll find out how they have their shit in like 20-25 minutes

[storm peak]

and/or marsoc using achs

[snow scarab]

i think they are just marines

i deleted the game, im ngl

[storm peak]

no according to the first cutscene its marsoc

[snow scarab]

wasn’t having fun with MP

loved the campaign tho

[storm peak]

marsoc with ach and 15s

[snow scarab]

ah

they also caught rounds to the plate

[storm peak]

ye

[snow scarab]

which is a cool addition

[storm peak]

i can see that tho

[snow scarab]

they don’t just get shot and die

[storm peak]

somewhat more realism than any other cod

[snow scarab]

yeah

[storm peak]

still theyre missing some stuff

[snow scarab]

just wait

you realize they have weird ass m4s and m16s yet? lol

[storm peak]

dog when they said how they found this dude i nearly alt f4ed

[storm peak]

ive only ever played rank mp so far

[snow scarab]

i’m talking in the campaign

[storm peak]

m16 best gun

[snow scarab]

how far into the first mission are you?

[storm peak]

just got to the heli

[snow scarab]

the one as soap

[echo jay]

I wish mw22 wasn't shit cause I refuse to buy a cod for the campaign

[storm peak]

i only buy cod for the campaign

[snow scarab]

yeah the AQ have a fuck ton of weirdly fucked m4s anf m16s

just like MP

[storm peak]

like i get this game was made after the taliban took over afganistan, so they should have a ton of 15s and m4s, but when i see new new kits i question it

[echo jay]

It would be nice to have a good cod game in my life rn but they killed mw19 and mw22 has too much sbmm bullshit for me to be willing to touch it

[snow scarab]

keep playing bud

you’ll figure out why

[storm peak]

honestly it trips me out seeing modern video game characters having the same exact gear i am issued

[snow scarab]

lol

you realize that ghost is wearing a bump?

[storm peak]

i see that almost every char is wearing a bump

when the fast sf helm can stop an ak round

[snow scarab]

no it can’t

the RF1 can

the SF can not

it’s pretty much a ballistic bump

also that’s not an SF

that’s an MT

[storm peak]

https://gyazo.com/663464f3294cc1236407fabc7de5d48f

there needs to be an unrestricted gun chat

with discord new rules, a verified gun owner chat

[snow scarab]

well the civi is dumb, as always

[snow scarab]

sent one

[snow scarab]

fr

[wind cave]

it really is

[wind cave]

how do they fly

[wind cave]

nah mw19 and 22 are both pretty solid

[raw river]

You see the missile knows where it is bc it knows where it isnt

And it uses where it isn't to know where it should be

But by also knowing where it isn't it also knows where it is

And it knows it isn't where it should be bc it both knows where it is and isnt

[wind cave]

yeah thats not confusing as a programmer

[raw river]

Make sense?

[wind cave]

pretty cool ima have to research it more

it actually does make sense

so then whats the difference in how it flew in the game vs real life?

[raw river]

Idk

[pulsar tusk]

Bro wtf is this link

Windows Shift S

Bro use a whole software for a basic feature

[idle helm]

that or the dedicated keyboard button printscreen

[alpine wasp]

based. love webgear

esp bundeswehr webbing

[sand rover]

just needs some kind of plates so he doesn't have to shove his hands in his armpits to make it look fleshed out

[timber linden]

My mom won’t let me use our dishes in my body armor unfortunately

So I’ll have to buy my own dinner plates from Walmart

Or maybe put a pan in there

Everyone says ceramic is better than steel tho so

[sand rover]

it is

if you're not gonna get real ballistic plates

just get airsoft plates

bulks up the rig, and adds rigidity

but remains lightweight and breathable still

[stuck hazel]

It’s true

I prefer floor tiles over dishes tbf

Cover more surface area and have better ballistic properties

[misty mango]

macbook >>

[stuck hazel]

Dell monitor is lvl 4+ on god

[misty mango]

so trueeee

them things be unbreakable

[stuck hazel]

Nokia of desktop equipment

[plush topaz]

Poor fella is prolly Chilly

[cold ledge]

On god all you need

[lofty nebula]

Can someone give me Tipps on budget range/ shooting clothes pls DM me

[pulsar tusk]

Get knockoff crye and amazon “tactical pants”

Amazon has good clothes to be honest

[lofty nebula]

Fr?

[pulsar tusk]

I mean thats all i use

That and random camo surplus tunics from countries

I wear a dutch one all the time

[lofty nebula]

In Germany we can't wear camo on shooting ranges

At most of them at least

Don't ask why nobody knows

[storm peak]

blue jeans

also like if youre trying to get budget tactical gear, 511 is a decent option

[crude oriole]

fr

[plush topaz]

Yep. Agreed.

Or proper

Rothco even

[stuck hazel]

pentagon

[misty mango]

everything is budget if you steal it

[plush topaz]

Ayo

[misty mango]

am i wrong?

[muted gate]

depends what you want

specific camo in mind?

flat range larping, hiking larp, etc?
Flat range larping, rothco is great, bootleg chinese crye clones, etc

[granite tartan]

5.11 is alright

Like a decent option

But I’d prefer jeans

[granite tartan]

Jeans

Most people just use jeans, I use jeans for the range

[granite tartan]

Dude is German, he’s not showing up to the range in tactical kit

[muted gate]

And

Germany has comp shooting.

[granite tartan]

They still prolly all shooting in jeans or shorts

Or cargos

Damn tactical cargos 🙏

[muted gate]

I love the rothco jungle pants

Feels like wearing sweats with a shitload of pockets

[granite tartan]

Even when I’m larping in kit I don’t wear combat uniforms

Or even my 5.11

I’m switching them to crye fields

[storm peak]

i have some 511 stuff but after seeing how the kurds wear '511 for their combat uniforms it had me think

but normally i just wear blue jeans to the range and my pcus for work

[granite tartan]

5.11 stuff I’ve seen blown out a lot

I paid like $170 for two pairs of my 5.11 pants

[storm peak]

they are really comfy but very ugly

[granite tartan]

Comfterable, not durable

[muted gate]

iraqis love 511

[granite tartan]

That’s just my gripe

[muted gate]

ISOF wears the fuck out of em

[granite tartan]

Also, if you want knee pads

I love knee pads

[storm peak]

i dont bother with knee pads

[muted gate]

kneepads are great

[cinder stream]

Blew two out doing DT, wouldn’t recommend.

The pants

[granite tartan]

Got fuck DT

[storm peak]

i was talking more ypg than iraqi

but good to know

[muted gate]

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NrcAAOSw1oNajc7w/s-l500.jpg

these are goated tho

good repop jungle pants

and the a light as fuck

[granite tartan]

Crye g3 fields are my next pants

@cinder stream gotta get a pair or two for BDU

[storm peak]

get pcus

they much more comfy

[muted gate]

whatever clone crye gen these are is my next

https://currahee.pl/userdata/public/gfx/9505cb979658de07ec6de33cd4de8a7c.jpg

[granite tartan]

Crye pants are overbuilt

[muted gate]

In WZ93

[granite tartan]

Look like g4s

G4s fall apart super fast

[muted gate]

i dont rock crye so i dont care about their gen system

[granite tartan]

Crye G3s are my personal favorite

[muted gate]

i hate crye not doing buttons

so much

[granite tartan]

It’s fine

[muted gate]

nah im a button guy

[granite tartan]

That is a interesting argument

[muted gate]

i usually swap all my velcro with buttons

[granite tartan]

That is a lot of effort

[muted gate]

yes

but worth it

[granite tartan]

That I wouldn’t do

I’ve pulled so many buttons out of combat clothes

[muted gate]

i dont do it to shirts

[muted gate]

its how you stich em

[granite tartan]

Usmc Cammies

[muted gate]

strong thread and overstiching is how i do it

[granite tartan]

I used to sew, pockets and buttons back on peoples clothes

For like food and shut

[muted gate]

thats par for the course for issue shit

[granite tartan]

True

[muted gate]

I remember seeing a whole bunch of the ACU pants having the thigh draw string pocket modded with buttons

cause hte velcro sucked and the string was ass

[coarse laurel]

For anyone looking for a safe

@snow scarab I had to switch to rac links

[snow scarab]

what

why?

dumbo go brrrr

[sand rover]

if you're gonna go jeans route, and aren't like hiking, get these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000A2K9FE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1&psc=1

[coarse laurel]

Lol I damaged a piece while rappelling off a Blackhawk

[snow scarab]

numbnuts

[coarse laurel]

Not the arm but the 3d printed peltor adapter

[snow scarab]

why did you have a 3d printed adapter lmfaoo

[coarse laurel]

Because it was free lol

[snow scarab]

buy the AXL omes

those are supposed to be really good

[coarse laurel]

That is the AXL one you fuck

[snow scarab]

oh

[coarse laurel]

Don’t judge lol

[snow scarab]

wait the 3d printed on was or these ones are??

i’m so tired and confused lmfao

also plates get here saturday

[coarse laurel]

No the 3d printed one was tan

I threw those away already

Funny enough they didn’t really fully break I just noticed a small hairline crack after I inspected my shit

I must have hit something after rappelling

[raw river]

Imagine needing a gun safe leave loaded firearms around the house at all times

[coarse laurel]

its a requirement in certain places

like living in a military base

lol

[raw river]

I had to give my personals to the armory

[coarse laurel]

talkin about onbase housing

[raw river]

Oh I never had my own house

[plush topaz]

Pants came in! Yesssss

[raw river]

You nazi how dare u own that hat

[plush topaz]

Guilty as charged

[granite tartan]

What those

[plush topaz]

Arcteryx

[timber fog]

Picked 2 pairs of these up at a thrift store a while ago for less than $15 total and now they’re some of my favorite pants

Could’ve got a 3rd pair, sad I didn’t

Surprised nobody’s mentioned truspec too

[pulsar tusk]

Should i add more strands if so what colors

I ordered some dry grass and more woodland colors

[nocturne ivy]

https://www.amazon.com/Veinlite-LEDX-Adult-Transilluminator-Finder/dp/B00B0ZM034

[granite tartan]

Ghillie suits should literally be like 80% natural foliage

[sand rover]

that's also the pain of having a good one though

it's basically just a webbing net with like 10% covered in cloth strands

and you gotta re-do the rest every time you change environments

[stuck hazel]

Lmk how you like em

[pastel cipher]

https://youtu.be/DkZPI5m9SIE looks cool still not convinced of these thing’s practicality but they sure do seem to work well now

Although the shoulder mounted glocks are adorable

[plush topaz]

I love

Bit big around the legs. But otherwise fits very well

[pulsar tusk]

I was able to successfully hide standing and prone 3 times from a friend, and the colors dont even match my environment perfectly, i let it pick up a bunch of leaves on the back so i blended in more

Its super lightweight compared to how many strands i had

So ill definitely get some more vegetation in

[granite tartan]

It’s about breaking you up

[empty sorrel]

Wish it wasn't multicam

[plush topaz]

You wish my pants weren't multicam?

[empty sorrel]

Yeah

I like aor2

[plush topaz]

I'm not sure they come in aor2

[empty sorrel]

They wouldn't sell it to you if they did

[plush topaz]

I needed some drippy pantaloons. I generally don't wear camo anything

[empty sorrel]

I would have just gotten some desert marpat

[plush topaz]

Why

Top secret camo?

[empty sorrel]

No, but the newer camel patterns are actually regulated

[plush topaz]

Oh cool

[empty sorrel]

If they have government contracts for them, they can't sell to civilians

[plush topaz]

I don't think these pants come in marpat either

Although desert anything in Canada doesn't make much sense. I'd still rock it tho

[empty sorrel]

You'd probably have to go with crye

[plush topaz]

I have a marpat rothco shirt but I gave it away

[empty sorrel]

Good, Rthcoe is pretty cringe

What type of climate are you in

Well, rather what type of vegetation are you in

[plush topaz]

Canadian shield. Boreal forest my g

My rothco stuff was awesome!

[empty sorrel]

Eh, I just wouldn't trust made in China stuff

[empty sorrel]

AOR2 would actually be pretty good for ya

[plush topaz]

It's just clothes

I probably wouldn't take it to war lol

Ya aor2 would be sweet. Most of my stuff is olive green or ranger green

[empty sorrel]

Check ebay there's a decent amount

[plush topaz]

Multicam Tropic carrier and noveske green (bazooka green) Tavor

[empty sorrel]

You're Canadian?
Might need someone to be a proxy for you, most sellers won't export

[plush topaz]

I have my ways

But I'm ok. I'm not buying anything right now.

Aor2 looks a lot like marpat no?

[empty sorrel]

Ofc, are you looking for cold weather gear, or just standard fatigues

[empty sorrel]

Basically the same pattern, different colors

[plush topaz]

I'm not looking for anything

Oh

I just used my cop buddies discount on LEAF pants

Couldn't pass it up

[empty sorrel]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/401926401924

The standard fatigues are pretty cheap

[plush topaz]

The only fatigues I'll ever wear

OD forever baby!

[plush topaz]

Ya I see US only

[empty sorrel]

Yeah

Might be the NIR compliance

Think that stuff is technically ITAR regulated

[storm peak]

why did you put normal every day wear uniform

like

why would literally anybody buy dirty work uniforms when your installation should of given you some and/or got initial issue at basic

[plush topaz]

@storm peak because they're cheap

And washing machines exist

[pulsar tusk]

Yes I literally got it same day i took pic im gonna upgrade it

[plush topaz]

I'd rock it he fugazi Chinese stuff. Just for larping

[empty sorrel]

We aren't in the military we're just larpers

[pulsar tusk]

God i wore my plate carrier bag and helmet for an hour yesterday and my whole body is sore

I think my shit is too heavy🙁

[misty mango]

gotta get stronker

[storm peak]

How much does it way?

My lower back and knees always hurt after wearing kit for some time

[pulsar tusk]

No clue but my helmet has just the headphones and the counterweight on it which is just a small power bank and a few batteries and idk if it was the bag or the helmet that killed my neck

My bag is atleast 50 lbs

The plate carrier has 2 IV plates so around 40 aswell

[storm peak]

I'm a lil sus when you say kit with sapi plates is 40 lbs

[pulsar tusk]

Its my estimate maybe im wrong

It felt like 40

[storm peak]

Ruckin around does that to you

[pulsar tusk]

Its ceramic

[storm peak]

Stretch before and after

[pulsar tusk]

How much should it weigh

I havent worn a backpack since sophomore year of highschool so maybe thats why

[misty mango]

its one of them things you kinda just get used to

i remember hiking in full kit for 3 days

camping in between

was hell first day

once you get used to it and manage to adjust your stuff perfectly for you it gets better

[storm peak]

What ruck did ya use?

[pulsar tusk]

What, the bag? Its like a standard 45L

[storm peak]

Ye that bag

Whats the bag

[pulsar tusk]

Im not home and dont have pics of it but ill take one when i get home

It looks just like this

A little smaller i guess

Same thing though

My main issue is how the straps rest

Its kinda restrictive

[storm peak]

That's not a good bag for weight distribution

No wonder you're sore

[plush topaz]

I use something similar for work. Smaller. Cross body.

[pulsar tusk]

I also have some abu and acu bags if theyd be any better

[marsh flint]

I have this

In khaki

[pulsar tusk]

Yeah thats like the same thing

Mine is khaki too

[snow scarab]

yeah. even a fully loaded IOTV is like 35 or sum

[pulsar tusk]

All i know was it was heavy

Ill weigh it when i get home

[stuck hazel]

yeah that is the case with them

ive learned to like it tho

[stuck hazel]

L camo

arc doesnt do anything like that

[misty mango]

based arc

[coarse laurel]

I just got put in charge of ordering gear for all the medics, everyone is getting mystery ranch bags lol

They gave me 40k dollars of the unit funds to spend on new medical bags and supplies

[misty mango]

based

[wind cave]

true COD end game picture

[stuck hazel]

slip in a few for me please xx

[plush topaz]

It makes sense. Less restrictive.

[plush topaz]

[stuck hazel]

i dont see why you wouldnt have it like that

the knee pads sit perfect either way so it just works great

what people dont talk about with arcteryx is the cut

fuck the materials everyone else has similar enough shit, the cut is the reason their stuff is so cut

[plush topaz]

I just see so many people in skin tight fatigues

Like why

I wore them with my Maga hat to the grocery store like a boss

[granite tartan]

Crye>Arc’teryx

Well atleast their combat pants

Unless you steal them

[plush topaz]

Maybe. I don't have a crye plug tho

[granite tartan]

Terrible!

[plush topaz]

Maybe the worst. Ever.

[stuck hazel]

controversial statement but again

cut on LEAF assault pants might beat out crye

but yk

crye is cheap as fuck with the used market

[plush topaz]

I can't comment. Never used crye anything

[stuck hazel]

used them for a month. Very good.

i didnt like the knee pads as much as these arcs though

[muted gate]

Buy once, crye at price, buy bootleg crye, still crye at its price, then become enlightened and use jeans with kneepat inserts

[misty mango]

the most correct take right there

[muted gate]

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/18199276_1368703876499930_5492251249202367736_n-660x438.jpg

DSI has the best fit of all

https://i.redd.it/7tuaro3uzsq61.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJagKvuXkAAn4FO.jpg

[stuck hazel]

CTFSO>

[muted gate]

Bruh, they are running skinny jeans

you are wrong

CTFSO looks like a swat team

DSI looks like undercovers with plate carriers and jackets

[misty mango]

because theyre off duty until they get the call

[muted gate]

i know

thats my point

Best tacti look is "Ah fuck i need to go shoot a guy"

[misty mango]

what is it with european CT's and jeans anyways

[stuck hazel]

drip is unheard of

[muted gate]

not skinny jeans

[muted gate]

incorrect answer

[stuck hazel]

skinny jeans are an L

[misty mango]

those guys are 100% undercover ops that geared up

low profile holsters and shit

[misty mango]

lucas has stained skinny jeans fr

atleast they make my ass look good
(i still dont wear them)

[muted gate]

I hate wearing skinny jeans

but they look cool as fuck

[misty mango]

hittas💯💯

[stuck hazel]

the guy facing to the right is built like he came to arm wrestle all of the suspects at once lol

[misty mango]

bro aint the long arm if the law

hes the strong arm

[stuck hazel]

hes just the strong

[timber fog]

[timber fog]

I’m diggin’ the lego guy patch

Shit’s hard

[plush topaz]

I slipped 3 discs just looking at this pic

What if he has to cartwheel somersault rear triple axle flux into battle?

Or a double twisted draidle spin?

[plush topaz]

Thank you.

My friend designed and made it

[empty sorrel]

I like European SWAT team drip

[cerulean flower]

The bois

[snow scarab]

@empty sorrel my plates get here sunday

errr saturday

[fast fiber]

i hate the jeans so much

[granite tartan]

Interesting

[plush topaz]

Same

[empty sorrel]

whatre the other ones

look tan

[snow scarab]

no clue

not mine

XSAPI maybe?

[empty sorrel]

oh lol

[snow scarab]

yeah that pic is from the guy sending tjem to me

[empty sorrel]

eh they arent the right shade

[plush topaz]

Shut

[devout verge]

HAPPY 420

[pulsar tusk]

Max cringe

[devout verge]

to the mod that warned me that was my gear

[plush topaz]

I attempted to warn you

[echo jay]

Fuck off. I had to work on my day off today because of fuckheads like you

[marsh flint]

Tactical jeans

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/sarma-tst-tactical-jeans/58865?_gl=1*14rvmkn*_ga*OTg0Mjc2NTQ5LjE2NzY2OTk0OTc.*_gid*MTQ4MjI3NDM4Ny4xNjgyMDM4Mjgy*_fplc*TWVIU0ZRSiUyRmRSb1o2QnB6ZHU1SG8wZEpiU2hwaUFId0NYWmtNQlRMbXU0eldva0wxMzVZSVpZSk84QnBMcnN2TkViMEl1T2g0ZUVHTHV6NFYwaTJ4SVJnNk1HM3JrVDVvY1NidUM1NlM2SmEzR0o0c1dCMUFYWlJQOXg1akElM0QlM0Q.

[plush topaz]

I don't wear jeans anymore

[marsh flint]

(not me)

[plush topaz]

@marsh flint damn you sexy AF.... Oh

[marsh flint]

I could grow a beard though

and it would be a bit reddish

I really love this company

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/page/varustelekas-sarma-tst/65131?_gl=1*1abwzuc*_ga*OTg0Mjc2NTQ5LjE2NzY2OTk0OTc.*_gid*MTQ4MjI3NDM4Ny4xNjgyMDM4Mjgy*_fplc*TWVIU0ZRSiUyRmRSb1o2QnB6ZHU1SG8wZEpiU2hwaUFId0NYWmtNQlRMbXU0eldva0wxMzVZSVpZSk84QnBMcnN2TkViMEl1T2g0ZUVHTHV6NFYwaTJ4SVJnNk1HM3JrVDVvY1NidUM1NlM2SmEzR0o0c1dCMUFYWlJQOXg1akElM0QlM0Q.

[devout verge]

sucks to suck honestly

[echo jay]

🖕

[plush topaz]

In Israel it's new years day. All the Russians get the day off because of Novigod

And there's a lot of Russians in Israel lol

So we had to pick up the slack for them

We don't celebrate Gregorian new years

[proud hazel]

@granite tartan box aquired

[granite tartan]

Dope

You going to add more stuff to your belt?

[proud hazel]

Some day yea

Waiting to finish this thing tho

[granite tartan]

I have a uh

Bfg MTKN

That I am not using

[proud hazel]

Yea that would be good but I hate things on the back of my belt

[granite tartan]

I do as well

[proud hazel]

Yeah wanna sit in my truck

[granite tartan]

We did a lot of ground work in belts a few weeks ago

And landing on your shit is painful

And makes it hard to roll

Yeah, learned a lot of interesting concepts

[proud hazel]

I played airsoft and loved all my kit, except for the placement of pistol mags

[granite tartan]

Idek i index everything off my rifle pouch

[granite tartan]

Also I’d bring that eotech in

The further they’re out the larger they appear

[proud hazel]

I am well aware

[granite tartan]

I wasn’t a fan of the eotech

[proud hazel]

It was fine on ak and way further out

[granite tartan]

New one already delaminated

And just was heavy as balls

[proud hazel]

New ones shouldn't have delam issues

[granite tartan]

Was a new one

[proud hazel]

I know

[granite tartan]

Hunter has it

[proud hazel]

I am saying it was either a lemon or abused

[granite tartan]

Idk, I have been impressed with the performance

I shoot under binos, so light transmission wasn’t that big of a factor for me

And the daylight performance either, I think they look good under nods. Work well under nods. Just vastly prefer my t2 over it

[proud hazel]

They are both really good

But I want to magnify it and eotech does that way better

[granite tartan]

I used a coworkers magnifier

Hated it

I’m going to try to use a night force atacr for my next rifle and see if I like it

[proud hazel]

They are a prisim scope they work I guess, I hate all optics

[proud hazel]

They suck too

[granite tartan]

Have you used an atacr?

[proud hazel]

But they also work

Yes

[granite tartan]

Hm

[proud hazel]

And an elcan specter

[granite tartan]

Yeah, magnified optics mab

[proud hazel]

No acog yet

[granite tartan]

The only thing I’ve liked was the acog

The 3.5x acog 🙏

[proud hazel]

I mean they still need a diopter

[granite tartan]

If you fit outside the eye, thing yeah

But ittl fit the vast majority of people

[proud hazel]

Sure and the parallax?

[granite tartan]

Realistically, non issue sub 600

It’s also not aprecision optic

You’re not justifiably using it anywhere past like 20 yards

If that

[snow scarab]

anybody got any recommendations for magazine pouches to run in my cummerbund?

[sand rover]

ar mags?

[snow scarab]

ye

[sand rover]

kywi ?

esstac makes laminate pouches that take their kydex insert, or you could just run them empty and I bet they'd collapse just fine

[granite tartan]

No

[snow scarab]

need something more soft and slim

[granite tartan]

@snow scarab bfg tenspeeds

[snow scarab]

that was one idea i had

[granite tartan]

@sand rover the quality of kywiis is horrid

Idk what happened to them

[sand rover]

you'd be the first to complain

[snow scarab]

i’m debating between putting more magazines and pouches on my SPC or put money into a velocity rig

[granite tartan]

It’s getting pretty common with the new laser cut ones

[snow scarab]

or buying some of the new sordins

[granite tartan]

I just don’t think you’re in a lot of great spaces

[snow scarab]

they are supposed to be pretty nice

[granite tartan]

I’ve heard about the new ones

I’d still get comtacs

[snow scarab]

if they were 350, definitely

[snow scarab]

but i can get the brand new sordins for 250 and make them comms capable in 200 more

[granite tartan]

It’s a really shitty comm setup

[snow scarab]

they are designed for comms

[sand rover]

how top dollar does it need to be even

lol

[granite tartan]

It doesn’t

But if you’re running comms on expensive radios you can’t cheap out on this stuff

[sand rover]

yes you can

should is the word you're looking for

[granite tartan]

All the stuff that doesn’t use the built in thick u94 stuff

[granite tartan]

Okay, what’s your comm setup?

@snow scarab I’m going to get another side radio pouch and a PTT adapter for my work radio

I also used the old sordins, I thought they sounded like ass

The Hear 2 idk enough about them

[coarse laurel]

@snow scarab or just save up for an actual peltor

Since you can actually use that with your work stuff

Peltors are definitely the best thing you can invest in in your line of work and it’s not at the mercy of some dumbass Commander or CSM’s uniform standards

[snow scarab]

that’s the thing, 3s aren’t cheap anymore and idk if i can even save that much for new 5s or 6s

[granite tartan]

You’d want VI

[snow scarab]

yeah IF i have that kind of money

[granite tartan]

I thought you made more than me

And live at home

[snow scarab]

i make around 19 an hour dude

after taxes i take home around 2200 a month. 415 goes to my parents for various payments, 200 for car payment, 200 for car insurance, 2-300 for ammo a month, 200-250 for gas

[granite tartan]

Damn that’s crazy

Get a cash back card

[marsh flint]

😄

[granite tartan]

Cash back credit card

Save you some money

I get like 20-100 back a statement on one card alone it helps

[marsh flint]

how do those actually work

they pay you for using their card?

"Every time you use a cash-back credit card, the card issuer "pays you back" a certain percentage of the purchase amount. For example, if your card earns 2% cash back on all purchases, and you buy something for $80, then you would earn $1.60 in cash back."