irl-gear

[snow scarab]

for some stuff yes

[sand rover]

if that your radio pouch on the right side then

that is also a valid point

unless you want an ifak on both sides, lol

[snow scarab]

it’s on my left side

i’m going to have one on my belt as well

Already have a TQ holder on my belt, and i just need a chest seal, israeli, and quikclot in the belt

that is true

i currently have 3 TQs on the external

[sand rover]

there a lot of merit to a cellphone holder on the rig?

[misty mango]

depends if youre running drones or an atak system

if not
just use your pockets

[sand rover]

I'd probably just use it for nav stuff

so an admin pouch would probably be fine

they do, however, look very convenient

[misty mango]

they look pretty nifty but the price on the kagwerks or juggernaut ones are a lil silly

nearly 300 for a mount and case

[sand rover]

sand precision has one too

[misty mango]

yeah

[sand rover]

still 85 usd

[misty mango]

im thinking of getting the s&s one

bit more universal aswell

[sand rover]

I've been trying to navigate their website to find their placards for like 12 minutes

lol

[misty mango]

ah

[sand rover]

do they even sell them separately?

[misty mango]

sounds fun

i believe so

the phone mount?

[sand rover]

no, placards

[misty mango]

ah

im not sure

i dont think s&s make placards do they?

[sand rover]

they do

I finally found them

they don't have what I'm looking for though, so I'll be going elsewhere

lol

spiritus systems is kinda expensive

oh, my mistake

I was looking at the haley strategic site

on the tab next to the spiritus systems one

spiritus system mk 4 looks versatile af

[snow scarab]

what are you looking for?

like what kind of placard

[sand rover]

I currently run an ak

[snow scarab]

any of the haley stuff will be good for that

[sand rover]

haley has good stuff, but not at the price point I'm looking for

[snow scarab]

i personally really like the TRMP

[sand rover]

I'm either gonna wind up with a 3 mag for 7.62x39

[snow scarab]

it’s what i’m running

[sand rover]

or an open pouch that supports inserts

[snow scarab]

what’s the budget?

[sand rover]

right, but for me this would just work better https://defensemechanisms.com/ak-mag-placard/

[snow scarab]

the TRMP allows you to use anything

[sand rover]

I would prefer to stay under 100 for the placard

[sand rover]

is it double row pouching

[snow scarab]

no

the front side two is full go through elastic

while the middle one is kind of like a pocket

see if you can’t find it somewhere else

that would be perfect, especially if you get an AR or something larger

[sand rover]

why wouldn't I get this though?

https://www.spiritussystems.com/micro-fight-chassis-mk4/

and then put whatever inserts I want

[snow scarab]

you could go with that

[sand rover]

oh, what about esstac

I just like looking at my options

good to know

[misty mango]

minus the d3 micro

(it doesn't like ak mags)

[snow scarab]

yeah

never seen those

[misty mango]

and the same for the spiritus mk 4

even the mk5 doesn't like ak mags

too close together

either won't fit or will keep snagging

[raw river]

https://www.sovietarmystuff.com

[sand rover]

there's an insert that fixes that

[snow scarab]

will that take inserts?

[raw river]

get some shitty 80s russian gear

[sand rover]

the idea is that the kydex goes side to side instead of front to back

[misty mango]

i tried running 5.45 polys in my micro
try to grab one and they all come out

[sand rover]

https://hugoindustries.com/products/snag-free-ak-magazine-insert

[misty mango]

don't know how easy that would be to get to the uk (for cheap)
otherwise id grab one

[sand rover]

couldn't tell you actually

[misty mango]

if you want it
might not be a bad call

[raw river]

Anyone got recommendations for a decent multitool

[sand rover]

that's a very open question

[raw river]

Budget 100 bucks

[sand rover]

it depends on what tools you want in it

[raw river]

I can't cut string with c4

Or use it as pliers

I can't cut string into usable strands

[misty mango]

can if you believe

[raw river]

I hate all of you

[misty mango]

any leatherman or Gerber is pretty solid

[sand rover]

leatherman, gerber, sog, and victorinox

[raw river]

Eh last time I used a Leatherman it rusted after a 6 day hiking trip

[sand rover]

might have been an old one

[raw river]

11 years ago

Fuck I'm old

[sand rover]

yeah, these days most multitools are pretty robust

let me find a video real quick

[misty mango]

take care of your tools

[sand rover]

@raw river https://youtu.be/Q9E2PjjdCAM

[raw river]

i did

[sand rover]

btw, sub to project farms

do it

[raw river]

it wasnt even wet where we were hiking

it was in fucking arizona with the boy scouts

[misty mango]

project farm fr be my chillout channel

love binge watching his content

[sand rover]

I found my favorite jeans thanks to him

personally though, I don't like multitools

I'm a big dedicated tool guy

[raw river]

dont wanna carry the extra weight

if something tough needs to be cut i got a buck knife thats harder than arnold's abs in the 70s

[sand rover]

if you do it right, it's actually just as light or lighter to do seperate tools

[sand rover]

here's a basic example https://youtu.be/eXVJXCpI1Lo

[raw river]

the fuck is this music

[sand rover]

royalty free

almost guaranteed

[raw river]

smh back in my day we had unregistered hypercams and disturbed for our tutorials

[sand rover]

also from experience, knipex fucks

just as a side note

[sand rover]

https://youtu.be/7TkRkeG8eaI

this is neat

[muted gate]

usecase dependent

i have a box full of the standard 60 buck gerber

[sand rover]

Hey, is there any vendor that keeps the defense mechanism mepc in stock so I wouldn't have to get a made-to-order?

[rapid elk]

[ashen fossil]

is this in america or europe

[misty mango]

murica

[plush topaz]

How is @verbal karma muted lol

[plush topaz]

I've had the same Gerber multitool for 18 years.

[grand portal]

I had a cheap one with loose grips that worked great for about 10yrs, then i lost it in the mud.

Now i got a wave, works good.

[timber fog]

#FreeMocha

[twilit cape]

What happened to him

[sand rover]

got muted

dun know why

[muted gate]

thanks dicktracy

[sand rover]

but if they got muted they earned it

[stuck hazel]

Nah nah

Free up mocha

[echo jay]

Someone isn't very familiar with how mutes go around here lol

[fast fiber]

on the internet in general

jannies stay jannies

[fluid plover]

Literally 1489

[plush topaz]

Literally worse than January 6

[night rock]

literally December 12th 1993

[stuck hazel]

Some of the new shit, ignore the airshit blasters

[plush topaz]

Nice pants bucko

[stuck hazel]

cheers

got the UF pro knee pads in them currently

dont fit great

gonna try some slickers knee pads tomorrow

[raw river]

https://www.mysteryranch.com/gunfighter-24-pack****
https://tacticaltailor.com/malice-pack/

[plush topaz]

@stuck hazel I think I made a serious error getting the mediums lol

I can always exchange tho

[stuck hazel]

too big?

[plush topaz]

They're gonna be too small

[stuck hazel]

oh shit

waist wise or length wise

[plush topaz]

Waist

Length will be ok

[stuck hazel]

oh shit

wanna sell them to me?

[plush topaz]

No I'll exchange them for a larger size lol

[stuck hazel]

Lol ok fair enough

[silk halo]

Snagged a mystery ranch ASAP, holy crap have I been missing out, hands down the comfiest and nicest day pack I've run

Price tag is a bit hard to swallow, but I had a hookup

[plush topaz]

Nice. They're on sale by me. Tempted

[silk halo]

I paid 120usd for mine, good value for that price... But msrp of 365-399 USD is a bit much for a 20L backpack

[plush topaz]

Whoa nice deal

[silk halo]

Like new.. still had tags on it

[plush topaz]

@silk halo

[silk halo]

2day assault is a better value, if you don't mind foreign made and slightly less quality

Also 2dap has a laptop sleeve, and water bottle pouches

[sand rover]

I need a 2day pack

so expensive though

cheaper than asap for sure

but I'm cheap

[plush topaz]

@silk halo the 2 day assault is pretty small

[silk halo]

Asap is smaller

Asap: 20L
2dap: 29L

[plush topaz]

Yes

But I pack my entire house. 30L for 2 days?

Fuggetabatit

[sand rover]

what kinda stuff do you need to take with you for 2 days?

that takes up more than 30L

[silk halo]

External punches exist

[sand rover]

also, it's 27L

[plush topaz]

17 changes of clothes

[sand rover]

just to keep the numbers straight

[silk halo]

It depends, I'm going to get a stickit to carry my jacket/helmet on the outside

[sand rover]

only thing you need two of is socks

[plush topaz]

I've always wanted to try the saw tooth

[sand rover]

you do you

[plush topaz]

Or the 3 day assault

30L is too small for me

I use 30L packs to drive 5 minutes from my House

[chrome sleet]

Charge your phone.

[silk halo]

Wool socks

[plush topaz]

Darn tough socks. All you need.

[silk halo]

I'm downsizing from a 30L, it was to big/ pocket layout didnt work for me

[silk halo]

Darn tough or legend, pick your favorite or what's available

[plush topaz]

I'm joking of course. I have a bunch of 30L but I ditched my 80L in Israel. Need a new large ruck.

Gonna get an eberlestock or mystery prolly

[silk halo]

I went a month on 3 pairs of darn tough, wore one, 1 set in bag as backup, yesterday's socks hanging on outside of pack to air out and dry

[plush topaz]

I have no joke 20 pairs of darn tough. Everyone knows to buy me Darn tough as a gift.

[plush topaz]

Yup. The dry so fast

[silk halo]

And wool is self cleaning/deodorizing

[sand rover]

not because you need to clean them, but because you cycle to keep your feet dry

[silk halo]

Yup

[sand rover]

I starting getting wool socks again about 8 months ago and haven't worn cottons since

[silk halo]

I'm a crossfire ruck fan for larger packs, but a MR overload is tempting me...

[sand rover]

I don't have any great packs

yet

I also have to re-buy my layer system cus I haven't done any hiking or woods stuff in years

[plush topaz]

I'd love one. Nearly a grand tho lol

[silk halo]

...quality gear is expensive

[plush topaz]

No shit I just bought nods lol

I'm broke

[snow scarab]

bullshit

[plush topaz]

Ok I'm not broke

[silk halo]

I need to find a hookup for a pair of crye gp 11x6x4 to use as sustainment pouches.... Emphasis on not paying full price or anywhere near it

[proud hazel]

how

[silk halo]

Buddy was clearing out some of his excess gear

[proud hazel]

oh nice

[sand rover]

anybody got some budget minded wool base layers they'd recommend?

[silk halo]

Wool, budget... Pick one

[plush topaz]

Costco

[sand rover]

was just wondering if somebody had a super secret find or some shit

not expecting miracles, just would be interesting if that were the case

[silk halo]

Super secret find is knowing people

[sand rover]

true

[silk halo]

https://eberlestock.com/pages/spring-cleaning-sale-2023

Big sale happing rn, great deals on good packs

[sand rover]

ooo

[muted gate]

unironically just grab some surp snivle gear

[sand rover]

I don't know their line up, what's their version of the 2 day pack

[muted gate]

or if you want some thin ones nab some skivvies

[sand rover]

since I know I'll be delving in surp at some point anyways

any reputable vendors?

[silk halo]

https://eberlestock.com/products/renegade?variant=42911661523180

[silk halo]

27 liters

[muted gate]

ebay

[silk halo]

About the same size as the MR 2day,
Or grab the KITE which is 39 liters for something bigger

[sand rover]

sounds good to me

[silk halo]

I will say eberlestock packs are great and don't get the recognition they deserve... I thinks it sbc they focus more on hunters and hikers than government contracts

[sand rover]

why do people recommend mystery ranch over them?

just public knowledge?

[silk halo]

Mystery ranch packs play nice with body armor as a rule... Also vett peoples backgrounds... I have miles under both USGI rucks, MR rucks, and crossfire rucks

I like the way crossfire dg16 frame fits me and moves with me on fast pace rucks, mystery ranch is a close second, no personal mileage with eberlestock, but I have heard good things. USGI rucks bounce really bad and suck for going fasg

[sand rover]

now the question is kite or renegade

or vapor even

122 liter bag, jesus

idk if I need that much space

[plush topaz]

Definitely not

[sand rover]

the funny thing is all 3 are about the same cost atm

between 112-150 usd

[sand rover]

sounds like it's time to go shopping?

[snow scarab]

i like the medium MOLLE II

[plush topaz]

I know. I'm overdue. I've been taking my 5.11 rush 24 everywhere and it's just not ideal as an outdoor pack in wet weather lol

Or any weather

[sand rover]

now is the time

sales sales sales

lmao

[plush topaz]

I should see if any eberlestock is on sale here

[sand rover]

just check the website

I guess?

[plush topaz]

My god the drip

[misty mango]

mp7

[sand rover]

looking like they've been keeping up with their crayon diet as well

[plush topaz]

That navy dog Digo has done some wild stuff

[granite tartan]

@sand rover mr is comically overpriced

[sand rover]

how so?

quality not meeting price point?

[granite tartan]

It’s a $5-600 backpack

[sand rover]

which one?

the 2day pack?

[granite tartan]

You’re looking at a full rig or a small one

The 2 day pack is really small

Even a 45 liter I struggled to put stuff in but I also carry a tent

[sand rover]

I'd only carry a 1 man tent if I did

and it'd be strapped to the pack

not in it

so for what it's worth I think I'd have a smaller pack than you

[sand rover]

eberlestock is doing a sale atm

I'm probably gonna grab either a kite or renegade

undecided

[granite tartan]

You’re going to have a sleep system in a two day Bag?

And leave your equipment outside?

[sand rover]

a quilt or sleep bag compresses pretty well, and a matt doesn't take up too much space these days

[plush topaz]

Thank you. Finally someone gets it

[sand rover]

sounds like a packing issue

[plush topaz]

That’s exactly what it is.

Glad I’m not alone.

[granite tartan]

I literally shove extra mags, and pants and a jacket and it’s full

[plush topaz]

Yep

I don't know what these people are packing for 2 days that it's sufficient space. Air?

Dust?

[sand rover]

don't need 2 or 3 of everything

is a jacket, pants, and some mags is too big for a 45 liter pack

you gotta work on that

or get a smaller jacket

then again

you got a big pack, and are fine with the clunky size

fuck it

[silk halo]

I've done a NTC rotation out of a 45L pack comfortably

[silk halo]

Last time I packed for 3 days, I had a plate carrier, helmet, winter sleeping bag, full change of clothes, towel and hygiene stuff in a 45L pack, all internally carried... Operationally I would be wearing all of that and using a thinner sleeping bag so 20L would be plenty

[snow scarab]

my buddy packed his fucking large ruck for his NTC rotation

[silk halo]

I mean it works

[plush topaz]

45L is a bit better

20L is like the size of a purse.

[granite tartan]

When you’re bringing a sleep system change of clothes and ammo

It diminishes fast

[silk halo]

You can leave out the sleep system if your actually in the field, a woobie+poncho is more than enough down to 30 degrees...

[granite tartan]

@snow scarab you know if LTC makes Esapi a

Rev J

[snow scarab]

i wanna say yes, but i don’t know for certain

[silk halo]

I can ask

[granite tartan]

Yeah cause I thought only 3 did

[silk halo]

@granite tartan is this a new account?

[granite tartan]

Hm?

@silk halo why you ask

[silk halo]

Your screen name seems familiar

[granite tartan]

You the Florida cop

[snow scarab]

@granite tartan no they do not

they just make the SPEAR and less than overt plates now

ceradyne still makes all of the ESAPIs

or i guess avon now

[granite tartan]

@snow scarab this a fake plate theb

Doesn’t even have the mil markings

[snow scarab]

nevermind

i stand corrected

just looked up the NSN

it’s correct

yeah that’s legit

i’m an idiot

i was looking at SAPI not fucking ESAPI

why you got someone selling some?

[granite tartan]

Yeah 675 for the set

[snow scarab]

don’t buy those

those are the old ass ones

2004

those require a kevlar backer

[granite tartan]

Rev j is from 2018 ya dingus

[snow scarab]

no

i’m literally looking at the official national stock number website

that NSN was first created in 2004

unless they’ve used the exact same NSN for every single plate which i highly doubt

[granite tartan]

It’s a new plate

[snow scarab]

either way, why are you even looking at new plates?

didn’t you spend like 2 grand on yours

[granite tartan]

Buddy

[granite tartan]

And no

I paid half that for my 3810s

[raw river]

always have backups

[plush topaz]

Meh

Not imperative imo

[raw river]

at least 1 backup set

cause hopefully if you get shot it hits the plate

[silk halo]

Not florida but yes cop

I need new plates

[plush topaz]

So when I get shot I can go home and swap plates

[raw river]

I'm not talking about swapping them immediately you donut

[plush topaz]

Or maybe swap them on the fly like in call of duty

[plush topaz]

Going home and swapping isn't immediate

On the fly is immediate

Also don't steal my insults

It is unbecoming

[raw river]

You're gonna make me put the ketchup on the shawarma

[plush topaz]

Do it in the dark. For light discipline

[raw river]

Also name 1 bad reason to own backup plates other than money u act like any of us will see retirement

Well u might for like...3 years before everything goes to shit

[plush topaz]

I have no bad reason. But unnecessary comes to mind

Money could be better spent on other important kit

[raw river]

I'd rather have em and not need em than not have em and need em

[plush topaz]

But spare armour is otherwise 100% a great idea

I don't see a situation where I'd need a spare set other than a job requirement

[raw river]

SHTF

[plush topaz]

Spare armour would be the last thing I carry in such a scenario

[granite tartan]

Cops are gay

Clete

[raw river]

You don't carry em with u

MAYBE 1 plate in your bag for extra protection

[plush topaz]

Where do I keep them. In my bat cave?

My secret lair?

[raw river]

Your home base?

[plush topaz]

You're really stretching here

Hey guys just bought extra armour for my future home base

[raw river]

Maybe wouldn't suit Canada's climate but where I live I've got fertile soil

[plush topaz]

So you plan to grow ceramic armour trees

[raw river]

No food you donut

[plush topaz]

Might be good with ketchup

[raw river]

I do have tomato seeds

[plush topaz]

Tomatoes require a lot of water.

[raw river]

Purified piss

[plush topaz]

[twin creek]

are 3a plates worth it?

[plush topaz]

Depends. Are you police/security/EMT? Low profile armour in plain clothes?

[twin creek]

i am not leo or mili, and its for a pc

[plush topaz]

Then don't use 3a. Get level 3 minimum. 3a is soft armour for pistol calibre.

[twin creek]

ah ok

[plush topaz]

What plate carrier?

Chances are it isn't designed for soft armour plates.

[twin creek]

currently they are gonna be in a airsoft pc, but i will be moving to a k19 in the next year or 2

plates will be esapi medium

[plush topaz]

Good choice.

[twin creek]

i am going to go to msw in 2025 and you get bonus for runny rs plates, also just want a pair to train with the weight

[plush topaz]

Level 3a weighs nothing.

[twin creek]

https://www.evike.com/products/30923/ this is my current pc

[plush topaz]

Throw that in the trash and get the k19

[twin creek]

k19 is gonna be abit till i get it

prob gonna be bought coler to the event so i can get it to match the camo

[misty mango]

i love my k19
just hate that i got a gen 2

gen 3 Released shortly after

and the k zero now

got me acting stupendous

might snag the zero at some point

[plush topaz]

I hate when that happens

[misty mango]

the gen 4 is supposed to be coming out soon

[twin creek]

there is a give away fpr the k0

[misty mango]

they finally did away with the cummerbund

[misty mango]

yeah im in it

[plush topaz]

Long overdue

[misty mango]

but odd of winning are slim

[twin creek]

same

[misty mango]

i stopped using it on mine and managed to jury rig an airshit JPC bund to it

[twin creek]

i have like 3-4 entrees rn

[misty mango]

then cut it down to 2 band

as god intended

[plush topaz]

It's so bad you had to use air shit instead

😂

[plush topaz]

Inshallah you will win

[twin creek]

i hope i do

tho tbh imma sell it

i dont like mc

[misty mango]

stole it off my buddies shitty rig that broke💀

muh £30 airshit jpc💀

it works though atleast
its just an ass material

[granite tartan]

Please don’t buy a k19

8 beg you

[twin creek]

Why

I know many ppl who have it and they all like it

[snow scarab]

he’s anti semetic

[sand rover]

there's a bunch of options on the market, might as well get one from a vendor you'd actually stand by

[twin creek]

I want mmac

But they fucking 500

And bundeswehr don’t use em

[sand rover]

get a mepc

that's what I'm gearing for

it's almost the same as a ferro concepts

but actually in stock

[twin creek]

Doing a bundeswehr impression for Msw, the k19 sees some use by them so that’s what I am going to use

[sand rover]

I big portion just use privatized carriers

which means use whatever you want as long as it fits the camo

[twin creek]

Yeah don’t know if we are doing torpentarn of flectern yet tho

[sand rover]

really though ranger green, fde, coyote brown, or multicam fits with either fine enough

[twin creek]

It’s gonna be ranger green or some kind of tan

Tbd

[proud hazel]

Crossing this one off the list it's not dark enough

[twilit cape]

@twin creek get a k19 they are good

[granite tartan]

stop

[twilit cape]

No

I have one myself and there great

[granite tartan]

Reee

[granite tartan]

If you’re going to reccomend a $300 carrier reccomend something a little better is all

That doesn’t use bike straps to adjust the cummerbund

[stuck hazel]

They are not value for money

Would take a JPC 1.0 over it any day for half the cost

[granite tartan]

The cummerbund design is also just vad

[stuck hazel]

Yeah but people don’t care

[granite tartan]

Frankly, true

[stuck hazel]

Idk for the life of me why

[granite tartan]

People who are not geardos love marketing

Eat that shit up

[twilit cape]

I got mine for 220

Also people will buy 500 carriers so I don’t wanna hear about price

[granite tartan]

The only person you’re referring to is me

I resell them

Reminds me I gotta get more stolen DOD stuff

[stuck hazel]

Would rather drop 500 on an AVS or CPC than 300 on a low-mid end carrier

At least I’m getting what I’m paying for

[granite tartan]

True!

The k19 purely was from marketing

[misty mango]

theyre good
if you get them under retail

[granite tartan]

They aren’t good

Now stop

You are supposed to be my disciple

[misty mango]

"under retail"

such as

drop fuck all on it

[granite tartan]

They aren’t even a good buy at $100

[misty mango]

in comparison to other things of that price

[granite tartan]

The cummerbund is so wack

Like what’s under retail

[misty mango]

swapped mine out

[granite tartan]

It’s a $300 carrier

[misty mango]

i git mine for about what
£190 ish

thats a reasonable price

[granite tartan]

Worst trade deal

Jpc 1.0 that price

[misty mango]

not anywhere but the US

[granite tartan]

Didn’t think of that

[misty mango]

if i could get a jpc 1.0 for under 300 i would

[granite tartan]

Based

Crype percession

[misty mango]

even the SPC is stupidly priced in europe

fucking nearly 300

[granite tartan]

Man, I’m not crazy about the spc still

Like people will shill for it so hard

But it be entirely like aftermarket

[misty mango]

people shill for it because its a quote "better, lighter JPC"

yet its not

[granite tartan]

It’s not slightly

[misty mango]

honestly what cracks me up with plate carriers and people wanting the lightest ones

are you not running plates?

[granite tartan]

Frankly, light plate carriers are fine

[misty mango]

that extra 200 grams will make zero difference

[granite tartan]

I run an ultra light plate carrier

My carrier loaded is like under 15lbs

[misty mango]

makes sense for concealable with lower weight plates

[misty mango]

but not what people that say theyre using em for

mine comes out to about 22 - 24 ish lbs💀

fully loaded with some sustainment stuff

kinda the reason i decided to grab a k19

just because 1 it was cheap at the time and 2 its comfy

good for weight

[muted gate]

the dude wants a k19 for the larp

let him get a k19

[granite tartan]

Never

[misty mango]

[granite tartan]

FUCK YES

[misty mango]

it actually goes hard asf

[muted gate]

those stripperclips are gonna suck to use

[granite tartan]

I want the grenade frankly

[misty mango]

the custom holster is amazing

[misty mango]

da malice clip clip holders💪

[muted gate]

also i figured out that a 92FS holster fits a CZ75BD really well

[misty mango]

fr

i always forget just how big ww1 stick grenades are compared to the ww2 ones

not as long

[muted gate]

they are the same size, just different head types

[granite tartan]

True!

[misty mango]

i swear the handles are shorter aswell

[granite tartan]

Honestly

The amt of mags I can carry on me

Is 👏

[muted gate]

yes and no

[misty mango]

carry more mags in a backpack aswell🙏

[muted gate]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/MWP_Stielhandgranate.JPG

[granite tartan]

So true!

[muted gate]

stick grenades kinda suck

[twilit cape]

I’ll stick with what I got

[muted gate]

the problem was they are really unwieldy to carry

snag on shit

etc

[twilit cape]

I’ll fuck with it

Plus I like the fit with it as well

[stuck hazel]

They exist my brotha in Christ

Check eBay more often

[twilit cape]

Honestly run what ever works good for you

[misty mango]

damn
i guess my luck is ass then

[twilit cape]

@misty mango just keep an eye out if you want one it will eventually pop up

[timber linden]

Damn those are some cool looking maracas

[wind cave]

is the reason i see that people who seem to devote more time to this put more on the belt than plater carrier?

is it because its easier to carry weight there longer?

[snow scarab]

hips vs shoulders pretty much.

but most people have more on their carrier

the belt just had less space, therefore it looks like it has more

[plush topaz]

When I play the maracas I go chickchikeeboomchickchickeeboomboom

[fluid plover]

You should get them inspected

[plush topaz]

https://spotify.link/V8sZoGwgpyb

[fluid plover]

I don't have spotify lol

[plush topaz]

Skill issue

[muted gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8VqdhNnwdY

Cannoli in Redacted during the early 2000s kicking in doors

[carmine night]

I usually check this chat to see cool gear and shit but do you guys go and camp with all this stuff?

[obsidian wolf]

Absolutely

[plush topaz]

I don't camp with body armour no lol. Gun yes

[carmine night]

Sick

[sand rover]

some of the best places to camp in my state are on state property

[granite tartan]

That is tragic

[sand rover]

so no guns then

[muted gate]

Yeah. Both with old gear and new gear.

[jade flame]

Slowly bringing together the ouch pouch

[fossil viper]

Hello im currently making some Hoodie designs with the focus of military/outdoor themes and wondering if anyone has any feedback on the design?

[plush topaz]

What's on his helmet?

[fossil viper]

actully thx for pointing that out i deleted a shade of tan from the image altering that i didn't notice

ima fix that rn

[jade flame]

Got a Canadian version of that soldier

[plush topaz]

No, like. It looks like he has a solar panel on his head lol

[fossil viper]

yea it does im working on it

[plush topaz]

Oh ok

[fossil viper]

there was details on it that got deleted

[snow scarab]

i’m ngl, i would buy one

[fossil viper]

I appreciate that rn LMAO i went into some like fashion designated discord and i got "I mean, it seems pretty awful, but since you're targeting a tasteless audience you might be fine?"

people were not such a big fan

lmao

people called me a trumpy and shit then kicked me

[fossil viper]

which one did u like more?

[snow scarab]

first one

[fossil viper]

this look like shit?

[plush topaz]

Looks better

[misty mango]

looks pretty good tbf

[fossil viper]

thank you thank you

[oblique plover]

Looks like something military or vets would eat up

[empty sorrel]

New helmet boys

[jade flame]

looks prty good

[muted gate]

Chad shamag poster

[plush topaz]

Cause riots

[empty sorrel]

[oblique plover]

Test it with a 7.62mm NATO

[empty sorrel]

Funny enough they actually make an add-on plate for that

[oblique plover]

Lawls

NGL, got to be a complete idiot if the person who buys it actually thinks it will protect you

Airsoft helmet?

[snow scarab]

i mean the SLAPP plate is a thing

[plush topaz]

Probably. Kid is like 16

What's the issue

[muted gate]

What yall run for gas mask holders on your PC.

[oblique plover]

Pro mask?

[plush topaz]

I don't wear it on my pc.

[muted gate]

I need a mask bag and my belt is full lol

[plush topaz]

Do you wear a dump pouch

[muted gate]

Yeah. What ive bee using but it kinda sucks

[plush topaz]

Why

[muted gate]

I use a foldaway low profile one. Its just a hair too small

Hence why im looking for a bag

[oblique plover]

What for?

[plush topaz]

A lot of dump pouches have tie down clips inside. Throw the mask in a nylon drawstring bag and clip it in the pouch

[oblique plover]

You can buy pro mask carriers, there's lots of places that sell it

Not exactly sensitive equipment

[muted gate]

Fair

[plush topaz]

It's what I do to reduce bulk and useless pouches

Mostly just keep in my Pack

[muted gate]

I have le tiny waist so my space on my belt is tiny

Dump. Admin. Mags. Ifak. Tq. and holster leave me ittle space

[oblique plover]

Why are you buying it?

What's the purpose?

[snow scarab]

tiny man

[muted gate]

Im tall. Just think waist

[snow scarab]

so a stick

i see

[muted gate]

What do you mean purpose. Le shiggle and cause i can. Im asking as I hate the dump pouch method for carrying a gas mask.

[oblique plover]

What's the point of carrying one?

For your personal use

[muted gate]

Because A. I can. B. It doesnt hurt to have a better method since I hate the one im using. C. Because I can

[snow scarab]

better to have and not need than need and not have

you of all people should know this

[oblique plover]

For personal use, got it

Google

[muted gate]

My guy. I know google exists. I posted here for active damn feedback.

@snow scarab the Fuck is with this server today

[oblique plover]

Civilians normally don't ask for pro mask carriers

Seems like a weird request

Your money, you do you

[muted gate]

Weird request. You havent been here long enough then

[plush topaz]

@oblique plover why are you such a pompous prick

[snow scarab]

he’s infantry bro. he’s better than all of us

[misty mango]

mfw zero transferable skills into civvie life

[plush topaz]

I was a cook

[muted gate]

God its like "wierd for a civvie"

[misty mango]

can you cook?

[empty sorrel]

Civilians don't normally collect .50bmg rated body armor either but here I am

[muted gate]

You also were an anti tank gunner

[misty mango]

probably cooked meatballs that could pierce steel

throw em hard enough

[muted gate]

God that was such a wierd exchange. "Why promask carrier for civvie"

[plush topaz]

I peeled so many potatoes I could peel the reactive armour off a t-80 tank

[muted gate]

Because fuck you thats why

[empty sorrel]

That implies that it has reactive armor and not just empty boxes

[plush topaz]

You shut up. T-34 with reactive armour and cope cage when

[misty mango]

slap ERA on ural trucks

[muted gate]

Hamas has no ERA

[lusty lintel]

Ha, i have the coyote variant with my IFAK

[misty mango]

women and children

[plush topaz]

Oop

[empty sorrel]

T55 with arena APS when?

[plush topaz]

Truest thing spoken all year

[misty mango]

[muted gate]

I cant wait for my tshirts to be done

Heheheheh

[empty sorrel]

Old versus new

God I never realized how shitty it looked until I got my new one

[jade flame]

Doing a grey-black kit for my stuff

[lusty lintel]

Oh yeah i do SAR, I have a 24 hr pack thats coyote so i decided to go with that lol

[jade flame]

nice

I'm deciding wether or not to join EMT, Reserves or Fire rescue

[pseudo fossil]

I have a noob question sorry I got a medium AirLite Crye spc what plates would be a better fit Highcom 4sas7 shooters mc or the 4sas7 SAPI In large.

[snow scarab]

shooters cut. they are 10x12. medium plates/10x12 fit those bags

[pseudo fossil]

Thank you I was going for the rma 1155 mc but apex armor support reccomend those for better fit have u heard about the Highcom 4s17M would those fit or be better?

[snow scarab]

all of the mediums on apex armor will fit perfectly

all armors that apex sells are good to go

[pseudo fossil]

Yea they seem legit the customer support is pretty awesome

[muted gate]

whoever made molle the standard for tac gear can suck my entire stick and nuts

IVE FUCKED UP MY MOLLE THREADING 3 TIMES

FUCK

[misty mango]

respectfully

how

[pseudo fossil]

What about the 4s17m vs 4sas7 what’s better if u had to say

[snow scarab]

isn’t really a difference

both weigh about the same

one is thicker and .06 certed while the other is .04 and thinner

[pseudo fossil]

I’m curious if I should upgrade my order to those instead of 4sas7

[muted gate]

postitioning

[pseudo fossil]

I had the rma ordered and he told me they’d fit like crap so he let me upgrade to those I can probably upgrade again I just wanna get what fits best and protect the most

[muted gate]

im setting up a new belt

m4 mag hits m4 mag on my carrier

so im swapping shit about

then i put it on upside down

because yeah

[snow scarab]

either one works really

like i said, isn’t that big of a difference

[pseudo fossil]

Ok thanks for clearing it up I think I can just stick with the 4sas7

Are Highcom pretty good vs other I seen only 1 test video on em not a lot of video

[plush topaz]

Trial and error my g

Builds finger muscle

[muted gate]

i can do molle fine

i just hate the malice clips

[lusty lintel]

Reserves

100

[jade flame]

Anyone here have experience with the new agilite K-Zero carrier

[plush topaz]

Didn't it just come out?

[misty mango]

yeah

i kinda want one

cannoli
give me a donation and ill help give your brothers ammunition to use against le funny people

[plush topaz]

[misty mango]

im so gonna get banned one day

[plush topaz]

I will not allow it.

[raw river]

Malice clips work too well

If you fuck up gl undoing them

[sand rover]

Just use velcro one-wrap

[granite tartan]

No

[sand rover]

Why

[granite tartan]

Because you can rip it off if it gets snagged

[timber fog]

Lmao, mods gave me a warning here one time saying “no begging for money” because I made a similar joke

[sand rover]

Gotta yank reeal hard to undo molle webbed velcro

[sand rover]

I assume that's your belt

[granite tartan]

No, I don’t use one wrap

Actually, that’s a lie

I have a one wrap fucking

Dump pouch it sucks

But I think it’s more from the uh, one wrap integration on the bfg than it is the one wrap

[sand rover]

so your belt is iffy in this case, not the one-wrap

am I following right?

[granite tartan]

It’s not my belt

It’s the design of the dump pouch

[sand rover]

at least it's just a dump pouch

[granite tartan]

Dump pouches are great

I’m going to replace the bfg mtkn

[sand rover]

almost mandatory part of a belt

[granite tartan]

@muted lynx you the guy with the LMT lower

[muted lynx]

i just snagged a coyote tactical dump pouch, i really like it

[sand rover]

I've only got a cheap no name brand

I could use a better one

[granite tartan]

It’s just a bag to hold stuff

[muted lynx]

i have a full LMT, but yeah i have a lower

[granite tartan]

Doesn’t really matter

[granite tartan]

I have some wack QC on mine too

[muted lynx]

what's wrong with it?

[sand rover]

mine's kinda small on dump space, and large on belt space

so less than ideal

[granite tartan]

The ambi Paddle machining

[muted lynx]

i had to send my first lower back lol, but they made it right and payed all transfer fees.

[granite tartan]

Missing a chunk

[muted lynx]

the gun runs so good, i give them a pass when i shouldnt lol

[granite tartan]

Not going to deal with it

Yeah I’m interested in an upper

But I like Daniel

And I’m getting a kac

I haven’t heard anything good about cobalt

I need to get my hands on one

@proud hazel was it you who didn’t like the cobalt stuff

[sudden karma]

https://s42814.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Edited_IMG_8323-scaled.jpeg.optimal.jpeg

[covert tinsel]

Yes

[rugged mauve]

going customs hiding in tree

[low fox]

Does work gear count?

[snow scarab]

i’m sorry for your loss

that’s the USMC carrier ain’t it?

[low fox]

i didnt choose it i got issued it but ya a gen 3

[snow scarab]

yeah i’m sorry

the whole two vest system is stupid af

[low fox]

its definitely special they said we can take it back to gear issue and get older velcro style ones

[snow scarab]

i mean if you are able to wear it without the slick it would be way better

from what i’ve been told the outer vest is actually pretty good

[low fox]

it feels alright but not alot of wiggle room with changing things, im just wondering if ill be yelled at for even adding an admin pouch

they are petty

[snow scarab]

yeah that’s stupid af

[low fox]

the marines liked it more then older vests atleast that im with, im navy but im attached to a marine corps security force battalion so i get their gear

[plush topaz]

100%

[plush topaz]

Pics

[low fox]

Got my own rangefinder from tarkov even though it's a 1400 and not a 1500 it's still cool

[plush topaz]

Nice

[coarse laurel]

are you a corpsman?

kinda weird seeing a aor2 helmet cover lol

[raw river]

The black in the navy camo always confused me, better than the blue stuff tho never understood why you'd want to blend in with the ocean

[low fox]

Master at arms

[coarse laurel]

gotcha

[snow scarab]

@coarse laurel you wanna see opscores solution to mount amps to the IHPS?

[coarse laurel]

huh

[snow scarab]

so this is how you would normally have to right?

[coarse laurel]

yes

[snow scarab]

they made this weird ass contraption

[coarse laurel]

eh

[snow scarab]

both options suckkk

[coarse laurel]

the shit that pisses me off is they always show off amps being used with the ihps

while comtacs are the ones thats standard issue

[snow scarab]

ong

apparently they MIGHT look at a way to do it

they issue comtac vi’s now? or still v’s?

[low fox]

its just hella dark brown, but its for shore duty, and ships in port, underway is the blue coveralls and such

[raw river]

yea that makes no sense why would you want to blend into the ocean if you go overboard

[low fox]

exactly lmao no idea im happy to be on shore

only reason i have marine gear is because im apart of a marine battalion as a MA anywhere else i believe its just black helmets if you even get them

[raw river]

still a better camo than the weird fucking tiger stripe/army acu shit i had

[low fox]

type 3's are basically just light skin marpat

[raw river]

[sand rover]

any new or surplus recommendations for a hiking/outdoors/recce usage pants?

[raw river]

OCP pants

or any military surp pants

but take em to a tailor and replace the velcro with buttons

[sand rover]

is that a preference thing

[raw river]

its a preference literally anyone who uses em has

the velcro is fucking horrible

[snow scarab]

there is not velcro?

[raw river]

in the modern ones?

[snow scarab]

not in the pants at least

other than patches and the regulars having some velcro to hold it together a bit more, 0 velcro

the pants are buttons only

[sand rover]

got a favored surplus vendor?

[raw river]

ebay

[granite tartan]

That is horrid

[snow scarab]

gimme a sec

[granite tartan]

Wonder if the earpro would keep a seal

[snow scarab]

i’ll get you a website

[snow scarab]

it does apparently

[granite tartan]

Source?

at That point id just run it under the helmet

[snow scarab]

https://tacticalgear.com/tru-spec-hot-weather-ocp-uniform-pants-ihwcu-ocp~1 @sand rover

[raw river]

@granite tartan steal me some TQs

[granite tartan]

tru spec 🙏

@raw river Auh

[snow scarab]

i would rather buy my own fuckin helmet

like fuck

[granite tartan]

do it

[snow scarab]

i’m tempted to

probably gonna buy a galvion high cut ACH

[granite tartan]

Cool

[snow scarab]

💀

[misty mango]

why is your holster on thr front

and the damn fake GP's

[plush topaz]

Good lord

[hasty jay]

I feel comfortable with the holster facing forward

[granite tartan]

Lol

[snow scarab]

flexin on children 😎😎

god damn your neck is thick af 😂

[kindred scroll]

Don’t listen to them the gear is cool

[granite tartan]

Gear is cool

Good gear is also cooler

ilose26 is also a nato deathsquad member

[kindred scroll]

oh i thought they were just some real ass haters myu fualt

[cerulean kayak]

it’s interesting seeing Ukrainian fighters with tarkov and stalker patches on

it’s kinda surreal

[granite tartan]

people in here only like good kit

[muted gate]

holy shit you somehow have a worse grasp on spelling than I do

[kindred scroll]

it gets worse the longer you know me

[marsh flint]

should follow this channel more often

[marsh flint]

ffs peltor plugs have different sizes

[naive maple]

https://twitter.com/PKPatchworks/status/1639861077616762881?t=Kdr8ZyeJJwh-wuZ8fsnFzw&s=19

PK Patchworks (@PKPatchworks)

Just got a massive order for 1600 patches for an "airsoft team" based in "Kyrgyzstan" so I'm currently mentally preparing myself to see dudes wearing my garbage anime patches committing atrocities in eastern Europe.

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[sand rover]

now that the eberlestock sale is over, mystery ranch my best choice?

or is teh sale still going on?

[granite tartan]

This is a based post

[granite tartan]

Thank you cadet

[muted gate]

HA, I cant wait to see Ras' patches in ukraine

[plush topaz]

Mystery ranch is so expensive.

Don't ever buy as anything from them full retail.

Even then.... They have day packs that are like $500

[naive maple]

mystery ranch is overpriced

they outsourced manufacturing to asia but kept US made prices

[misty mango]

@plush topaz look at this hackjob

it works though

yes its supposed to be rough

its a place holder because the k19 bund is ass

[plush topaz]

Oh God lol

[misty mango]

[snow scarab]

💀

[sand rover]

Then what should I get eh?

[stuck hazel]

a nice osprey and a backpack cover

[cerulean kayak]

why were they discontinued?

[empty sorrel]

What plates

I am the plate man

Here to judge your sins

Which model specifically though

Part of their ULV line?

Personally I would've waited for the new adept plate

[sand rover]

what bout rma 1155sc oh plate man?

[empty sorrel]

Adept, relatively new armor manufacturer

[empty sorrel]

One step above steel

[sand rover]

for the price I paid, that's about right

[empty sorrel]

3lb m80 and m855 rated plate

No, that's their standard lv3

This is a different one, not released yet

Iirc it's exactly 1"

[sand rover]

they say almost any plate in your carrier now is better than fancy plates on layaway

[empty sorrel]

In that case it's a bit more reasonable

Comparable to early esapis

Not seeing this on their page

I've got a nice ceradyne plate

[sand rover]

how old?

[empty sorrel]

Bro it's literally printed on there

[sand rover]

on phone, can't see it well

[empty sorrel]

1995

Standard ESAPi, nothing special

How about spear plates?

[snow scarab]

you have your backer?

[snow scarab]

they didn’t make ESAPIs then

[empty sorrel]

I don't run the esapis

[empty sorrel]

That's the one on the left

[snow scarab]

yep, as soon as i said it

lol

[snow scarab]

wanna gimme some?

i’ll pay

[empty sorrel]

Already sold on

Only keep niche stuff

[snow scarab]

meh

not really

[sand rover]

red baofeng moment

[empty sorrel]

😩

[snow scarab]

the newer generation of ESAPI is nice tho

[empty sorrel]

You're telling me I don't need m993 rated plates?

[snow scarab]

really light and meets RF2 standards stand-alone

[sand rover]

red's my favorite color, but it makes baofengs look like toys

[snow scarab]

then with the appropriate backer it’s rf3

[sand rover]

which they almost are, tbf

[empty sorrel]

It meets rf3 standalone

[snow scarab]

the regular issue ESAPIs that they still issue with kevlar?

or do you mean SPEAR

[empty sorrel]

Yeah,

Though there's a decent chance that would fail RF2 without the backer on BFD

[empty sorrel]

Even old ones easily stop m2ap standalone

Newer ones are even better

Better than just about anything on civilian market

[snow scarab]

i want to have the money to buy less than overts

[empty sorrel]

LTC ?

[snow scarab]

yeah

[empty sorrel]

I'm pretty sure those ones aren't standalone

[snow scarab]

they are

the stealth plates are what you are thinking of

[granite tartan]

@snow scarab bitch read my ping

[snow scarab]

i did

[granite tartan]

its old lots

[snow scarab]

that’s not less than overts

apex is out of them it seems

[empty sorrel]

I thought that the LTOs were the alternative to the Spears

The one they used with their soft armor

[snow scarab]

nah

[empty sorrel]

Which model are you looking at then

[snow scarab]

LTC 28791

vs the SPEAR are 28590

[empty sorrel]

That's the old spear

[snow scarab]

no

it’s the gen v

unless you mean the 28791 are the old spear

[empty sorrel]

New ones are 28595 and 28570

[snow scarab]

fuck

do i buy 26605 swimmers right now

or wait until wednesday?

[empty sorrel]

Yeah that listing is wrong

The 590 is the Gen 4

Well, Gen 4B

[snow scarab]

oh well