irl-gear

[stuck hazel]

you cant read is your issue

im writing for people with a semi-decent understanding of english

[plush topaz]

@zenith gust I'll make it easy for you. A lot of us are active or former service. We like to hone our skillsets either by maintaining or learning anew. Not only that, we find it fun to discuss and compare methodology, equipment, and just shoot the shit.

[stuck hazel]

bro you took all the fun out of it

[plush topaz]

Yes, of course some people love to just buy gear and take selfies. Most of us aren't that person.

[zenith gust]

and blood couldnt just say that hed have to find such a roundabout means?

still a huge larp tbh

[plush topaz]

@stuck hazel saving you the time and energy

[stuck hazel]

ive enjoyed your incessant whining

[stuck hazel]

yeah its a good idea tbf, im just tryna avoid doing other shit

[zenith gust]

i mean scrolling up and seeing the images its still kinda cringw

[plush topaz]

Ok

[stuck hazel]

good for you dude

[plush topaz]

Cringe away

[zenith gust]

lmfao

ty for proving me right, this the larp channel

[stuck hazel]

rlly is

enjoy

[zenith gust]

funny how all i had to say was larp channel to provoke this kind of response

[stuck hazel]

asking you about why you think so is a really extreme response isnt it

the funniest part is how you dodged and weaved the question "define larp"

[zenith gust]

it took you forever to say what you meant

clearly you were too busy seething than to just ask me directly

[stuck hazel]

love that

[zenith gust]

if you wanted me to paste the google definition of larp just to refute with "I sErVeD" it wouldnt have ended well for you

[stuck hazel]

lol

[zenith gust]

either way you couldve said im active duty not larping instead of behaving like a woman

[stuck hazel]

definetly what i was gonna do

[zenith gust]

military is the biggest of larps anyways

[stuck hazel]

it literally is

military is sooo cringe right

[zenith gust]

my buddy played laser tag in the desert with blanks and when they ran out of blanks they shaked the rifle to make the laser go off

[stuck hazel]

thats so cringe dude

i hate larp

[zenith gust]

actually hilarious thinking about it

[stuck hazel]

your life must be pretty dull

[zenith gust]

whys that

[snow scarab]

hey now, that shits unironically fun as fuck

simunitions better tho

[zenith gust]

because i dont like signing up for below minimum wage to play in the sand?

[stuck hazel]

simunitions sub 50 meters*

[stuck hazel]

because your still laughing about that dead ass story

[snow scarab]

your loss

[stuck hazel]

"they shook their guns doode"

[zenith gust]

would be if it werent for the whole "im in the military and gotta call people sarge unironically while doing this" part

[stuck hazel]

fuck me dead

[zenith gust]

????? im not laughing

[stuck hazel]

[snow scarab]

wait so structure is too much for you?

[zenith gust]

the only reason why he signed up was because they promised him a camaro

no its just cringe

[stuck hazel]

ahhh ok

[zenith gust]

even worse was the pt belts

[stuck hazel]

your at that point in your life where everything is cringe to you and everyone has to know

[zenith gust]

LOL

buddy you asked

i gave an answer

[stuck hazel]

lol

[zenith gust]

now youre telling me this

[stuck hazel]

you definitely didnt hop into this channel unrequested and call larp cringe

[snow scarab]

sounds like he’s an idiot lol

[zenith gust]

i just said this was the larp channel

only told you its cringe when asked why

[zenith gust]

go army

at least he wasnt my marine buddy

found some single mother dated her for 5 months got married no prenup

[snow scarab]

more like he looked at memes and thought they were true, or you’re pulling shit out of your ass lol

[zenith gust]

nah man deadass fr fr no cap

[stuck hazel]

lol love how i definitely asked

[zenith gust]

you wouldve accused me of dodging and weaving like mike tyson if i didnt answer you

[stuck hazel]

i didnt ask you anything

i stated you didnt have an opinion and you decided of your own free will to let me know its cringe

in your oh so humble opinion

[zenith gust]

bruh

heres my actual opinion stated out of free will: youre cringe

[stuck hazel]

sick mate

got me there

[hollow wind]

Well, i say bad because compared to the rest of euro cars it's way worse. Also the door frames are too small and fitting in is a challenge very much like entering a ford gt40 or something. I know i should be patriotic, but i would take a bmw over an alfa

[plush topaz]

Buddy. I own a viper. Don't talk to me about awkward entry and exit

Maybe you're thinking of the 4C

The Giulia is a practical sedan

[hollow wind]

well the viper is justified, it's a 2 door, the alfa shouldn't be so awkward to be in

considering that the frame of the quadrifoglio is the same as the normal giulia versions, which are widely bought by normal people that want a mid size sedan

versions with awd diesel engine and stuff

[plush topaz]

I have no issues getting in and out of it

Didn't even occur to me tbh

The c pillars are huge tho I will admit. Blind spot is... Well very blind lol

[hollow wind]

yeah.. Also the interior quality is very low. I'm not a high standards guy that wants leather and all that stuff but they didn't even try.

[plush topaz]

I'm very happy with it. I like basic and practical.

[hollow wind]

The interior from a 2 year old giulia of a family friend of mine is wobbly pretty much everywhere, especially the front console

[hollow wind]

Oh yeah same, that's why i wish i was born in the hilux era

[hollow wind]

indestructible car, could go rally without (pretty much) consequences

[hollow wind]

The new hilux is great and i like it, but it will forever live in the shade of the old one

like the new lexus sportscars

rcf stuff like that

[snow scarab]

#vehicles bud

[plush topaz]

Chu cok

[snow scarab]

just remember cannoli, you’re old enough to be my father

[plush topaz]

That's right son

But seriously tho is there a vehicles tab lol

[hollow wind]

pretty sure not

until a mod warns us i think we are fine

[snow scarab]

no lol

[plush topaz]

@stuck hazel went from "I'm not a fan of training in kit" to "actually I just hate the military" real quick eh

[stuck hazel]

yeah cant say im surprised lol

[granite tartan]

4Runner?

[plush topaz]

Ya

[plush topaz]

@granite tartan

Picking tubes

[granite tartan]

photonis?

@plush topaz

[plush topaz]

Yes

[granite tartan]

How much are elbits

Compared to photonis

Photonis is wack

[plush topaz]

I don't know anyone that can even get elbit here

[granite tartan]

Yeesh

[plush topaz]

But you aren't helping. Help me decide.

[granite tartan]

I was seeing what tubes we're avaiable

[plush topaz]

All three are photonis echo

[granite tartan]

This one

[plush topaz]

Why

[granite tartan]

highest performance

.8 EBI

[plush topaz]

But also has 2 blems

See the photo

[granite tartan]

Those are dark spots

They're in every tube

[plush topaz]

Whatever you call them

[granite tartan]

Blems are damage

dark spots are inherent

And you wont notice them under use

[plush topaz]

Ok

[granite tartan]

my tubes have the,

Them*

[plush topaz]

The highest gain of the three

[granite tartan]

is it manual gain?

or auto

@plush topaz

[plush topaz]

The big ol manuel

[granite tartan]

Dank

Yeah get the higher gain

Cause you can turn them down

[plush topaz]

Ok thx

[granite tartan]

they're all about the same NGL

@plush topaz This one is also good too

[plush topaz]

Don't give me options

And confuse me

But ya they're very similar

[granite tartan]

honestly

Fuck

[proud hazel]

why dont they show halo

[plush topaz]

Don't know

I'm sure I could get that stat

[proud hazel]

Its just weird they don't show it

[plush topaz]

True. I emailed him.

[granite tartan]

These are gen 2 tubes

Probably won’t be that great

[plush topaz]

@granite tartan exactly

They'll have bloom for sure

[granite tartan]

Fuck

[plush topaz]

Not bad tho.

[granite tartan]

It’s so hard to reccomend these tubes

Cause photonis is wack

[plush topaz]

Dude they're way better than the others I was about to get

Cheaper too

[granite tartan]

Eh…

[plush topaz]

I dodged a bullet there

[granite tartan]

Based

What intensifier tubes

Can you get

[plush topaz]

Not sure

Can look into that down the road

[plush topaz]

My next nods I’m coming to the states and bringing them back

[pastel cipher]

Im 99% sure that ITAR says thats illegal to do but i wont narc on it.

[plush topaz]

It is illegal but unenforceable

Half my gear is itar shit from the states

Although I never brought it over myself so I never broke any laws.

Only the shipper did technically

[pastel cipher]

Fair, i do hope to snag some less than legal russian ir illuminators at some point so glass houses and all that.

[plush topaz]

Which ones

Breaking ITAR is a victimless crime unless you're sending shit to terrorists

[pastel cipher]

If i can get my hands on a full power perst i would be very happy.

[plush topaz]

If only this was pre Feb 22

[pastel cipher]

Yeah… theres a lot of zenitco stuff i wanted to buy…

Now its annoying, and i still need to find someone to actually build my 105.

Or i need to buy a hydraulic press thats an option as well…

[coarse laurel]

I got lucky and snagged a perst before the war

[pastel cipher]

Hows it treated you?

[coarse laurel]

Very good

It’s abit strong

[pastel cipher]

Nice, ill keep an ear to the ground to pick one up, at least until the eotech lam hits the market.

[snow scarab]

ngl that’s dope af

also i feel like the SPC is coming together nicely

[coarse laurel]

It’s so bright in IR it kinda acts as a IR floodlight in some capacity

[snow scarab]

jesus

i just realized i didn’t blur my name but whatever

the what?

no

it’s the beast of mandalore

or the mythosaur

it’s the symbol of the mandalorians

i’m a star wars nerd

that’s why it was chosen 😂

[proud hazel]

sounds cringe

[snow scarab]

if it’s within the last 20 years, it’s based on the mandalore symbol

it was shown in comics from the late 90s iirc

getting it on my right forearm

[plush topaz]

Where plates 🧐

[plush topaz]

Shut up non nerd

[snow scarab]

behind my dinner

[proud hazel]

no i am nerd i just think star trek is better

[snow scarab]

i’m trying to sell these but people keep backing out on me

and would make my other plates much easier to purchase lol

i can sell my plates and carrier and mag pouches that im trying to sell, i could actually buy better plates than im looking at lol

[plush topaz]

Bruh star trek has been shit for almost 2 decades until last year

[proud hazel]

cap

[muted gate]

ITAR only really counts when shipping out

[proud hazel]

the lore is much better, and the universe is not getting shit on by Disney

[muted gate]

i reallllly hate star trek

[snow scarab]

considering most of disneys star wars has been absolutely amazing

[plush topaz]

No, it's getting shit on by kurtzman

[muted gate]

7 8 9 are shit

[snow scarab]

only 8 and 9

[muted gate]

no 7 sucked p hard

[plush topaz]

Just stop

[proud hazel]

picard and discovery are pretty shit

[whole vault]

7, 8, 9 are not canon

[snow scarab]

bruh what

[plush topaz]

Dude. You see new Picard? It's amazing

[snow scarab]

i’m talking shows as well

[muted gate]

the only things that are good were the clone wars, rebals, etc

[proud hazel]

and only fucking up the lore of the movies its cool

[snow scarab]

how

[proud hazel]

i guess we dont need any consistancy

[muted gate]

but those were started by lucas with filony, then bought by disney

[whole vault]

The mandalorian is the only good disney star wars creation

[snow scarab]

you mean the one throw away line about bothan spies?

[proud hazel]

it wrote movies out of cannon and then used shit from the movies it wrote out for cannon lore

[snow scarab]

S7 of the clone wars, star wars rebels

[whole vault]

Never watched it

[snow scarab]

what movies did it write out of cannon

what

[muted gate]

those are filoni's children, disney had no control

[snow scarab]

there is one sentence in a new hope that gets fucked up cause of rogue one

[plush topaz]

@proud hazel answer me bitch

[proud hazel]

i dont remember as i dont care enough about some gay ass fantasy wanna be sci fi

[muted gate]

filoni basically just got a blank check

[pastel cipher]

Andor is much better, honestly i really dislike the mandalorian, could have been so much better with just a few tweaks.

[proud hazel]

sorry what

[plush topaz]

Picard season 3

[snow scarab]

no they are definitely disney

[proud hazel]

oh no i gave up after mold spores giving us better hyper drive

[snow scarab]

disney wanted a tv show about the founding of the rebels

[muted gate]

disney had no control over direction

[snow scarab]

ok?

[muted gate]

The gave filoni a blank check

[plush topaz]

Please. Watch it. Trust me. They did a 180

[snow scarab]

same shit could be said about the sequels

[muted gate]

no they were heavily involved in those lmao

[snow scarab]

how

either disney owns star wars or it fucking doesn’t

[proud hazel]

fucking star wars also relies solely on fucking the stupidest answer ever of some micro organism gives us wizard powers

[muted gate]

disney can own it, they need to not touch it

[snow scarab]

they are equally involved in everything

people literally only blame disney when something turns out bad

[muted gate]

they need a room full of 10 nerds to write, then just use that shit

which they didnt do for 7 8 9

they did it for rouge

[snow scarab]

i don’t see people saying thanks to disney for mandalorian

[muted gate]

clonewars

rebals

mando

[snow scarab]

no

[muted gate]

what do you mean no

[last jungle]

t.rex ready rig gtg?

[snow scarab]

no

TRA is shit

[muted gate]

better alternatives for a fraction

[snow scarab]

jon favreau didn’t create mando. he created it cause disney told him to create a show about them

[last jungle]

I've been looking all day, mind telling me a few?

[snow scarab]

disney had a direct hand in it

just like without disney we wouldn’t have rebels or TCW

easily two of the best pieces of star wars media

[muted gate]

correct, they hired the nerd to do shit, then gave him a blank check with little imput outside of a few steadfast things

they didnt do that for 7 8 9

[snow scarab]

oh and jj abrams wasn’t a huge star wars nerd?

[pastel cipher]

My dude tcw predates disney’s purchase, they killed the show when they bought it.

[snow scarab]

hell fuckinv no

[muted gate]

ehhhhhh, what season did they buy at?

3?

[snow scarab]

season 4-6 are the best seasons around

after disney purchased it, there was a huge increase in production quality, scale, and story

[muted gate]

Disney got SW oct 31st 2012

Meaning S6 was being dev'd when they bought it

actually no

[snow scarab]

5 and 6 and 7

[muted gate]

no

[snow scarab]

wdym no

[muted gate]

S5 came out Sept 29 2012

meaning they had no dev imput on the season

S6 would have been tail end of writing

[proud hazel]

to be fair it is the one that fucked up what was cannon

[muted gate]

if not animation

[snow scarab]

how?

[muted gate]

In March 2013 following the acquisition of Lucasfilm by Disney the series was cancelled. The unreleased episodes that had already been produced were referred to at the time as "bonus content"

Yeah disney shitcanned the show

[proud hazel]

i dont remember what it did but a lot of people were pretty pissed off about it

[muted gate]

i was right

[pastel cipher]

They literally cancelled the series when they nuked the EU, yes they brought it back years later but my point stands.

[snow scarab]

nothing about it breaks canon

people were mad about grogu is what you are thinking of

[proud hazel]

google it, it does,

[proud hazel]

no thats not it

[muted gate]

yeah it does, they nuked a fair bit of Mandalorian cannon

[snow scarab]

how

[proud hazel]

they fucked up a lot of shit

[snow scarab]

it follows one tribe of mandalorians

[pastel cipher]

Old mando cannon was way cooler.

[proud hazel]

and then pulled from shit they wrote out and used it in the show

[snow scarab]

all comics and games have been EU since forever

[muted gate]

Jango became a pretender as opposed to an actual mando

[snow scarab]

nope

that tribe claims he is

[muted gate]

what do you mean nope

originally jango was an ethnic mando

[snow scarab]

he was always not a true mandalorian, even in canon

in original comic books that explained the life of jango, jango stole the armor

[muted gate]

"Born to a family of farmers, Fett grew up alongside his older sister Arla on the world of Concord Dawn,[1] an agricultural planet in the Mandalore sector, known for being long associated with the Mandalorians."

He was a mando

[pastel cipher]

Kotor had the coolest mandalorians by far.

[muted gate]

NEOCRUSADERS FOR THE WIN

[pastel cipher]

Exactly.

[snow scarab]

ok, even new lore says that actually lol

[plush topaz]

The Boba fett show sucked

Only good eps were with Mando and others

[proud hazel]

yup Disney has fucked a lot of stuff up

[snow scarab]

how

that literally says disney followed old lore

[muted gate]

yes, but they change him from being a mando to a pretender

[snow scarab]

holy shit, fucking how

[muted gate]

BY RETCONNING HIS SHIT

[proud hazel]

no the show has him be a pretender

[snow scarab]

HOW

where does it say that?

[proud hazel]

the show does not even follow what they are claiming

[muted gate]

holy shit im gonna fuckin reee

[snow scarab]

oh you mean, when the one tribe of proclaimed extreme mandalorians claims he is a pretender?

[proud hazel]

shovl have you watched the show

it feels like you have not

[snow scarab]

they called fucking bo katan a pretender

[snow scarab]

yes i habe

in the show they also say bo katan is a pretender

[proud hazel]

i feel like i am talking to some one that only has paid half attention to it

[snow scarab]

no, you are just misremembering

[proud hazel]

i dont do that

[snow scarab]

fucking show me what episode they claim he is a pretender, across all facets

and not just the tribe saying he is

because the tribe saying it doesn’t mean shit

[proud hazel]

that is like the only thing i have in life that actually works for me

[snow scarab]

then please inform me of what to watch

because, once again, mando also calls bo katan not a true mandalorian

[muted gate]

also @pastel cipher Full metal jacket but umbara

[snow scarab]

because they are an extreme group

[proud hazel]

he took off his fucking helmet and had that whole confrontation with the armorer for one

[snow scarab]

oml

[proud hazel]

he can not be a mando now

[snow scarab]

THEY ARE A TINY FACET OF MANDALORIANS THAT ARE CONSIDERED FUCKING EXTREMISTS EVEN BY DEATH WATCH

[proud hazel]

he broke the code

[pastel cipher]

Sounds extremely fun the umbara arc in clone wars was great.

[snow scarab]

they aren’t the entire mandalorian core

[snow scarab]

who did, fucking jango and boba?

why are you talking about mando when the original conversation is about mandalorian somehow retconning jango fett

[proud hazel]

ngl i dont care enough to continue

[snow scarab]

because you’re fucking wrong

[proud hazel]

no actually

[plush topaz]

[snow scarab]

then once again

[proud hazel]

there are 2 reasons

[snow scarab]

please tell me what episode

[plush topaz]

Nerds

[snow scarab]

and i will immediately apologize

[muted gate]

right, i want more clone media

[snow scarab]

you are seeming to think that the one clan of mandalorians is every single mandalorian clan

[proud hazel]

i dont follow it enough to remember what they were mad about, and 2 i really dont care because of the midi-chlorians ruined it

[pastel cipher]

I just want more exploration of military life in star wars in general, id kill for a battlestar galactica but in star wars.

[snow scarab]

@proud hazel @muted gate oh shit, would you look at that. BEFORE MANDO, he wasn’t a fucking mandalorain

and now he is

so you were both fucking wrong

go fuck yourselves

[muted gate]

🍿

[proud hazel]

starwars feels like a sci fi that wanted to be a fantasy so they just butt fucked wizards in to it

[muted gate]

still better than star trek

[proud hazel]

not even close

[muted gate]

God i hate star trek

[proud hazel]

star trek has good scientific grounding and plot development

[muted gate]

Scientific grounding my ass

95% of anything in that is random madeup shit

[proud hazel]

what the fuck are you dumb

[muted gate]

the TNG crew dont act like rational human beings

[proud hazel]

lets do this if its so made up give me one thing

[snow scarab]

literally because george lucas retconned jango being a mandalorian himself, mando fixed it

[muted gate]

off the top of my head, clear aluminum

(Or was it titanium)

havent seen star trek in years

[proud hazel]

we have that actually in fish tanks, and the windows of the presidential limo

like its real and its really good

[snow scarab]

well, it’s the 4th highest grossing franchise ever so they did something right

[pastel cipher]

Yeah aluminum oxynitride.

[proud hazel]

it appeals to morons that like fast and the furious

[muted gate]

fuck it

im going to go drink and pray i win this auction

[snow scarab]

meanwhile spongebob is higher grossing than star trek 😂😂😂😂

[muted gate]

(God please no one bid on this)

[snow scarab]

what’s the bid?

[proud hazel]

yea people dont like factual stuff, going by popularity is not a good metric for any thing

[snow scarab]

i mean sure it is

[muted gate]

still not saying shit till i win

[snow scarab]

if people enjoy it, that’s like the entire reason that media is created

and you’re right, people don’t want to hear shit that’s possible and needs to be explained by science

laser sword go woosh woosh and melt through door is fun

[muted gate]

its just so much nerd shit that i tune out

[pastel cipher]

Quality of writing is the best metric for quality of a fictional work, a well written story with complete nonsense science is better than a poorly written study paper on nuclear physics as a piece of fiction

[muted gate]

my hate is that they dont act like humans

Theres an entire podcast dedicated to TNG and its weird plots that could have been avoided by putting the damn shield up

or listening to worf

[pastel cipher]

I mean in terms of star trek most of them arent humans

[proud hazel]

right but that leads to Michael bay being a good director

which is wrong

he ruined both transformers and fast and furious

[muted gate]

fuck the doc gets knocked up by a fucking star

[proud hazel]

and made them popular

[snow scarab]

transformers was extremely popular before michael bay even touched them

[proud hazel]

he made it more popular and ruined it

all at once

[snow scarab]

how

[pastel cipher]

I mean yeah, weird stuff happens, and frankly i really enjoyed ds9 a lot more than tng.

[snow scarab]

he made it appeal to more people

[pastel cipher]

With shit writing

[snow scarab]

bumble bee and the new movie aren’t directed by him

[muted gate]

TNG is the one i primarily remember

[proud hazel]

omg i cant argue you with it because you like just pure action and explosions

[proud hazel]

right which is not the one i am talking about

[snow scarab]

transformers has never been about the stories 😂

[muted gate]

who remembers burn notice

[snow scarab]

it’s been about two sides of giant robots fighting one another

[pastel cipher]

Ds9 is great, the main character punches god in the face when he shows up.

[proud hazel]

see this is wrong, you did not grow up watching it in its prime

[snow scarab]

that’s like, all if is

neither did you

lol

[proud hazel]

yes i did

[snow scarab]

you’re like 28

transformers g1 came out in 1980

[proud hazel]

thats not the prime

[snow scarab]

my parents didn’t even grow up watching it

your parents might’ve

prime transformers is g1 and the g1 movie from the mid 80s

animal wars was ass

[pastel cipher]

Oh also with racism, the twin autobots were… a thing…

[snow scarab]

most of the early 3d animated ones were so garbage it’s not even funny

[snow scarab]

which twins? the ones in the beetles

[proud hazel]

oh g1 is dinobots, and yes i did, my cousin had the vhs set

[pastel cipher]

The racist stereotype ones.

[snow scarab]

there’s a lot of those

[snow scarab]

g1 isn’t all dino bots

sure, they have them

but they weren’t a focus lol

[proud hazel]

dinobots was great

[snow scarab]

it was, ngl. but the original show, if you go back and watch it

literally had 0 true story

[proud hazel]

there was story

[snow scarab]

it was so back and forth and had no total direction

it was just deceptions trying to get energon from the earths core

but the transformers movie from that era… now that was wack

kid had a suit that allowed him to transform

[pastel cipher]

Transformers armada remains the peak of the franchise.

[snow scarab]

that’s the early 2000s one isn’t it? that went back to being drawn after animal wars or whatever it’s called

beast wars

[pastel cipher]

Yeah after beast wars, which was also good.

[snow scarab]

beast wars looks gives me nightmares

[pastel cipher]

Oh it looks awful, but the writing is great.

Same studio that did reboot, great writing, truly awful 3d animation.

[snow scarab]

lmfao

[pastel cipher]

Anyhow i need sleep.

[plush topaz]

Watch them all again. Ds9 is the best.

[proud hazel]

ds9 is really good, and i also really liked voyager

[granite tartan]

Because external crye pads are just nice

[stuck hazel]

I cant see a reason to justify external knee pads

[storm peak]

Because nobody uses knee pads. Stop being a whip

[shut remnant]

This shit real?

[twin creek]

Ain’t no way

[plush topaz]

Slaap plates aren't that expensive

Buy it

Lol

[shut remnant]

Is that still a decent price

[plush topaz]

Yeah. They've been selling them for that price for years.

[shut remnant]

Dang I wasn’t aware of that

[plush topaz]

No idea why they list the msrp at $1100 though. A whole ass ops core ballistic helmet is a few hundred more

[snow scarab]

yeah it’s gtg

[stuck hazel]

Everyone who has half a brain left uses knee pads as much as reasonable, external knee pads on the otherhand make no sense

[oblique plover]

Depends on the situation, I would argue that by and large, most didn't during OEF/OIF/OND; I can't speak to what people are using post 2010 but I used it quite a bit during my deployment 2002-2003

[stuck hazel]

currently internal knee pads are at a point where you dont have to worry about them at all. there's little reason to use internal knee pads for sure, but hard external knee pads dont make much sense imo

[oblique plover]

I'm sure a lot of things have changed in over a decade, they were cumbersome but most of us used it throughout the deployment--by the time we went to Iraq, most had ditched it

Not sure when it was removed off of RFI requirement

[storm peak]

Ain't nobody using kneepads out here G

I wasted toughbox space bringing em

[coarse laurel]

man i toughened my knees up because i hated wearing kneepads

working on casualties always requires me to kneel

[snow scarab]

just made you prepared for the big green weenie

[coarse laurel]

that only requires bending over

[snow scarab]

😂

how’s this class going?

[coarse laurel]

let me put it this way

it started with 300 something people

scratch that

400ish

now every company is down to 35-50 people

[snow scarab]

damn

[coarse laurel]

this shit is no joke lol

seeing 75th guys and SF guys get dropped tells you something

[snow scarab]

a couple of us were talking about how bullshit we are in the guard cause nobody knows how to do shit

[coarse laurel]

the first space force ranger student is doing well

[snow scarab]

like 90% of the company has to get retrained on every aspect of the IFAK

[coarse laurel]

he should be in swamp phase now

[snow scarab]

most of the company is set to deploy at some point in the next 18 months

and they don’t know how to put a fucking pressure bandage on

[grand portal]

Ok that sounds like my dream job from when i was a kid.

[timber fog]

Drip, obviously

[stuck hazel]

Case and point

[plush topaz]

External knee pads like ones you strap on?

Or the ones that attach to pants

Oh. I wear external pads. Have my whole life. They're now considered to be just for show?

Oh I see what you mean. People who wear external over internal?

I don't own any internal pads in pants

I've never even tried them

Probably such a quality of life change. Wearing externals for days. You sweat under them and the straps. Causes such irritation

[stuck hazel]

Ones that you wear over + ones that stick out of your pants

Crye as per usual is the exception

[thin apex]

@plush topaz @oak gazelle @granite tartan My power has been out for the last 19 hours so Ive been trying to get an actual good video with my night vision for the past hour and I got these. This is on complete darkness with zero external light. This is actually what they look like with your eyes

Don’t mind the breathing noises I had to put my phone against my face to do this

[plush topaz]

My power is out too

It's bad out

[misty mango]

and they said "why would you ever need them"

[thin apex]

Damn no snow here but almost every house in my area is in need of new roofs the wind was brutal today

No rain either

Best vid I could get outside it was cold so I didn’t stay out long

Amazon illuminator is on its last leg I think it’s dying

New batteries too

[thin apex]

Gen0 night vision. I’m surprised by how good they actually are every time I use them

You would expect them to be shit

[misty mango]

wait those are old gen?

wow

theyre pretty fuckin clean

[thin apex]

I think I got extremely lucky with the tube condition considering I’ve never seen someone else with them and they were in a tank

I don’t regret my 350$ purchase

[plush topaz]

@thin apex the breathing is creepy af

[thin apex]

I sound like a heavy smoker

[thin apex]

I was walking in the woods with them yesterday and I heard footsteps like 15yards away in the trees maybe a deer but I’ve never run so fast. I just sprinted like 80 yards up a hill to my porch 😂

[plush topaz]

[hazy spruce]

Don’t worry it lasted

I hope

[stuck hazel]

The drip is unreal

Bad internet will be the death of me

[muted gate]

The pixel count is unreal

[stuck hazel]

you know it

[sour iron]

Amy good camo backpacking tents preferably two people. Looking at lightfite rn what about others

[plush topaz]

All season?

[sour iron]

Preferably. But it can be skipped it doesn't get that cold here

[plush topaz]

@sour iron lightefiter is exhuberantly expensive.

Does it have to be camo? You can just cover it with a lightweight camo tarp

[sour iron]

Honestly thinking about that tbh

[thin apex]

Would it be cringe to casually wear pants like this in public or any other cool looking camo pattern

[plush topaz]

Very cringe.

Why are you wearing rain pants as casual attire

[thin apex]

Yeah I want them but idk where I would wear them

Not specifically those let me get a pic hold up

[hollow wind]

if you wanna wear tacticool stuff just get striker xt's

still cringe, but not camo at least

[sour iron]

Wear the multicam miniskirt from varja and striped panties and be a man

[plush topaz]

[hollow wind]

wearing that kind of stuff in public makes you look kind of attention seeking in my humble opinion

[hollow wind]

Yes

absolutely right

[thin apex]

Fuck my power is still out and cell service is ass. I mean like flecktarn pants just cool camo patterns in general

I’m tired of wearing od green 5.11 pants

[hollow wind]

old is cool

[sour iron]

https://vajraconcepts.com/products/tacticute-camo-skirt-gen-2?_pos=1&_sid=176ccc038&_ss=r

Get this

[plush topaz]

Camo was super trendy the past few years.

[thin apex]

Copping that rn

[plush topaz]

What the fawk

[hollow wind]

Not worn out, but "seasoned" tactical gear looks good. I had some hiking boots i used when i was a scout, dirty and a little worn out, but that looks cool in my opinion

[sour iron]

I wasn't joking

[hollow wind]

life on earth will end before an actual female wears that

[sour iron]

😭

Sadge

[thin apex]

Y’all know admin results how he wears those cool foreign military camo pants and shirts I just want some clothes like that I think they’re cool

[plush topaz]

My work boots today after all The snow melt

Fawqing salt

[hollow wind]

what are these for? No insult intended, they look something a mcdonalds employee would wear together with the pants

[plush topaz]

Lol!

Timberland winter dress boots. I wear them in the winter so my dress shoes don't get destroyed.

I work in executive protection

[hollow wind]

private security?

deluxe private security?

[thin apex]

Bodyguard?

[sour iron]

Gay bar night rear end security

🫡

[misty mango]

i know 4 people that own these

none are female

[hollow wind]

I absolutely expected that. Actually i was waiting for someone to say this.

[plush topaz]

Yes

[thin apex]

That sounds like a fun job

[plush topaz]

With a pre order bonus

[plush topaz]

Can be

[hollow wind]

Nice

[plush topaz]

That's them in the back left. All freshly waxed too. Salt is a killer

[thin apex]

These kind of pants is what I’m talking about I just don’t know where I would wear them if they will make me look like a discord mod that makes military edits on tik tok

[sour iron]

Yeah it would

[plush topaz]

You'd need a very flamboyant outfit to make that work outside of a camping scenario

[sour iron]

The Applebee's shirt

[thin apex]

Flecktarn would probably be better since it’s just 50 shades of shit brown

Tell me that isn’t sexy

[plush topaz]

Why

[plush topaz]

Every hipster in Toronto wears that

Lol the furry ones are for winter. You won't even see the fur my suit pants cover it.

I have another identical pair in brown not pictured

I DON'T HAVE A PURPLE SUIT

I actually want to get a plum suit tho n

Snazzy af

[thin apex]

These wouldn’t be cringe

[plush topaz]

Why are you so dead set on wearing military clothes

Those pockets look annoying as hell

[hollow wind]

If you dont want to stand out in the negative way i recommend you choose some jeans or plain pants instead

[thin apex]

They don’t have to be military surplus I just want some cool pants like that

[plush topaz]

One sec let me undo this snap to get my car keys

[hollow wind]

as someone already said, get some cargo pants then

[thin apex]

I have like 15 pairs of propor and 5.11 pants

[hollow wind]

and you want more?

[plush topaz]

The man is a tactical pantaloon addict

[thin apex]

Yes I want more

[hollow wind]

Why does that remind me of a woman with a full closet saying she doesnt have enough, or 14 year old me with 40 playstation games saying i have nothing to play

[thin apex]

I just like how those kind of pants look

[hollow wind]

yeah but you need to understand that camo surplus is just not for the everyday life

doesnt matter if you live in a city or in a small country house or whatever, you are going to look like a weirdo

[plush topaz]

I wear khakis with the elastic cuffs like that

@hollow wind yep. They don't always fit nicely too. He'll look like a schlemiel (Yiddish for slob)

[hollow wind]

If you really want to wear them, you should try going on trips in the wood or something with friends or new people, so you can look good in the adequate environment

[hollow wind]

yeah

[thin apex]

I would love to but I don’t have any friends that do that kind of stuff I need to find some

I haven’t been camping in years

Or go shooting with some freinds that would be fun

[hollow wind]

not really camping dude, just forest trips, i have groups nearby that often go on trips in the woods and i live in a big city, i'm pretty sure you can find some too

camping would be pretty harsh especially if you start with no knowledge whatsoever and with no one you know coming with you

[thin apex]

Like camping or hiking?

[hollow wind]

hiking, that's the term, i couldnt remember

[plush topaz]

@thin apex I found all my camping and offroading friends via Facebook groups.

[thin apex]

I want to find a group to go shooting with and just hang out for a few hours . @plush topaz yeah I used to go off-roading with my freind in his jeep

[plush topaz]

Now we are inseparable lol

[thin apex]

He had a fully built jeep but sold

[sour iron]

Wat state are u in?

[thin apex]

Tennessee. I need to check out some fb groups

[sour iron]

Hmmmmm.

[plush topaz]

Holy shit dude TN is the best

I was there last year.

Camped in the Smokys, hiked Tellulah Gorge. Partied in Nashville. Shot in Nashville.

[hollow wind]

that looks nice, too bad i live in europe and real offroaders are fantasy and only city crossovers exist

[plush topaz]

Depends where

[thin apex]

There’s tons of really good trails here to camp and off-road

I just haven’t been camping-hiking-kayaking in a long time I miss it

Haven’t been fishing in a few years too

[hollow wind]

Italy. We have laws that discourage people from buying good cars, literally. We pay a lot of money for cars that have more than 250hp and at the moment diesel costs more than regular gas

just 2 months ago it was 2.50 euros here in the capital. Now it's 1.80, and gas is 1.70

[plush topaz]

Insane climate rules in Europe

[hollow wind]

Oh i didnt talk about that, diesel cars are illegal if they dont have the adblue technology now

[plush topaz]

Dumb

[hollow wind]

for that everyone gets very low power cars, and offroading groups or even just car enthusiasts are very few

[thin apex]

That’s crazy. My neighbor was burning mattresses a few days ago the whole neighborhood smelled like a house was on fire and nobody stopped him

[hollow wind]

pretty sure that's illegal tho

or is it

[thin apex]

Idk but that’s probably a lot worse than diesel cars

[hollow wind]

yeah

[sour iron]

The European fears the toxic trash burning American

[hollow wind]

Actually no, i think it's even more common here. Mafia burning trash in the south is everyday new, and here in rome burning buses are also stuff you see almost every month

[thin apex]

I just found this in tik tok lol

[shy bay]

👌

[stuck hazel]

thank fuck chat finally died

we can sleep

[snow scarab]

rothco is now military grade

[low fox]

Good soft amour inserts for ems?

[granite tartan]

Bro what

@low fox where you the fuck you work

[misty mango]

Chicago, Detroit, philadelphia or baltimore

only places i can think of that needs armour for ems

[stuck hazel]

you know shits bad when the EMS rocks up with full Lvl 4

great way for the military to get rid of their IOTVs

arm the Detroit EMS

[pastel cipher]

ah yes, the initial launch sites for docwagon in 13 years.

[coarse laurel]

apparently being a civil servant is an occupational hazard in democrat ran cities, who woulda figured

[granite tartan]

I can promise you

Not the case

I live in an overwhelmingly red state and the ems wears soft vests

[low fox]

@granite tartan I work in city called hazleton pa

We have vests but they are police surplus dogs shit

They are to fucking heavy and hard to work in

But I need some help finding soft inserts

[stuck hazel]

Please

[cinder stream]

I would post my outer carrier, but i remember i got banned from posting images over a doge gunshow boomer meme

[misty mango]

can still post images lmao

my source

me

[plush topaz]

@cinder stream I told you you'd be muted lol

But nobody listens to cannoli

My what

[muted gate]

cannoli gets a pass

[plush topaz]

[muted gate]

and then the other person arguing gets muted

[plush topaz]

What did the 5 fingers say to the face?

[muted gate]

OR EVEN WHEN THEY ARENT ARGUING WITH HIM THEY GET BANNED

RIGHT CANNOLI

[plush topaz]

SLAP

[muted gate]

also cannoli

I won the auction I was lying about the date because fuck you all HEH

Soooooon

[plush topaz]

For what

[muted gate]

Ill snap a pick when it gets here

[plush topaz]

VHS parts?

[muted gate]

No

complete other gun im replacing

[plush topaz]

[echo jay]

I'm guessing he came to visit our chat again

[plush topaz]

The nameless shadow broker

[verbal karma]

There was a pretty high profile incident a while back where a firefighter was killed when an OD call turned into a gunfight with the cops

I sorta blame the cops for that one

they didn't check the guy for weapons while he was out

they narcan'd him, let him leave the public transit bus he ODed on, then tried to pat him down after he'd had several minutes to fully regain consciousness

[steady anchor]

Does someone know these gloves?

Or the brand

[cerulean dawn]

Yeah. They're gardening gloves.

[low fox]

freindship is a blast

[steady anchor]

🙏

[granite tartan]

I’m on the pig supremacy

🙏

[grand portal]

I thought the guy on the right just had really big 80s hair. Then i zoomed in and seen the hemet lol

[plush topaz]

Picking up my pvs-14 tonight whewwww

[raw river]

Mechanix gloves are all u need

[viral patrol]

y'all

i wanna build a themed kit

im stuck between the chechen vdv and the soviet telogreika

[raw river]

wake up and meet the wife gunny

[granite tartan]

Mechanix are wack

[timber fog]

They work tho

[granite tartan]

They still wack

I wouldn’t use them for shooting

I’d use them for like, literally anything else

Pretty much

Cheaper beater gloves

[timber fog]

Exactly

[snow scarab]

i use them whenever we do machine gun quals. little thicker if the 240 ever decides to give me a love tap

[granite tartan]

Pig alphas

[snow scarab]

but i use pig deltas for everything else

[granite tartan]

I’m not crazy about the or research ironsights

I use pig deltas

Great gloves

[snow scarab]

what’s the difference between the alphas and deltas?

[granite tartan]

A lot

Different design

[snow scarab]

alphas are thicker right?

[granite tartan]

The alpha and deltas+ are expensive as dick

[snow scarab]

40 bucks for delta+, wtf

[granite tartan]

Yeah they’re leather

Flame resistant

Which is dank

https://www.outdoorresearch.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0e1a2ecf05b86084f5feaba6f324bd32/3/0/3003060014_1.png

Looking at these

[snow scarab]

oh? might actually make those my new gloves

[granite tartan]

WHAT

FR

@snow scarab it’s deleting flame ret*

[snow scarab]

lmfao

[granite tartan]

I’m pick up a pair of the FR for my supressor

[snow scarab]

i want FR cause i’m an idiot and have grabbed barrels before lol

[granite tartan]

Welding gloves inshallah

I gotta get a supressor cover

[raw river]

my brother in christ we live in SC

[granite tartan]

For supressors

I live in your mind

[raw river]

how often are you taking your suppressor off

[plush topaz]

Get a few pairs

[plush topaz]

Oven MITts bra

[plush topaz]

Yep. Can buy like 6 pairs for the price of one pair of pigs

[snow scarab]

nah

[plush topaz]

And they'll lost twice as long

[plush topaz]

I had an oven mitt for my FN mag barrels lol

[barren kettle]

i use a curling iron pad

[raw river]

and yet all the flat range larpers and @granite tartan forget i did 4 years like i dont know what im talking about lol

[granite tartan]

If you’re training often

So it doesn’t lock on

[granite tartan]

What was your mos?

[snow scarab]

aren’t you waiting on an RC2?

[snow scarab]

security forces kek

[granite tartan]

Sadly

[raw river]

3P0X1

[snow scarab]

he scanned IDs

[granite tartan]

Literally

[snow scarab]

and gave tickets for speeding

[raw river]

security forces arent just mps

[granite tartan]

@raw river I can literally get you a job working with me

[raw river]

air force is fucking weird

we do more combat training than normal MPs but not as much as infantry

[granite tartan]

Mhm

Bruh

[raw river]

@granite tartan ik what ima setup my 300 blk with

[coarse laurel]

Oof

[snow scarab]

we do not lol. which is dumb af but whayever

[coarse laurel]

My brother in law was SecFo in Creech

[raw river]

hold up you have a minimi @plush topaz

[coarse laurel]

He’s in Portugal now tho

[granite tartan]

When do you have drill next

[raw river]

i was stuck at lackland

ALL 4 YEARS

[coarse laurel]

Hahah

I was in JBSA for medic training

[raw river]

I WENT TO BASIC, AIT AND WAS STATIONED AT THE SAME FUCKING BASE

SEE THE WORLD THEY SAID

YOU CAN GET GERMANY NO PROBLEM

[plush topaz]

Just buy your own. $2

[raw river]

INSTEAD ALL I GOT WAS MID BBQ AND FAT BITCHES

[barren kettle]

[plush topaz]

FN mag. Not minimi

[snow scarab]

me?

[raw river]

how can you own an FN mag but not an ar15

[snow scarab]

he’s talking when he was in the IDF

[raw river]

oooooh

[snow scarab]

dimbass

[raw river]

bruh he didnt say when he was in the IDF

[coarse laurel]

I went full circle. Fort Benning, Fort Sam Houston, Camp Casey Korea, Camp Humprheys Korea, fort Bliss tx, the. Fort benning again but as cadre in ranger school

[raw river]

my uncle was in 2nd rangers

hes an alcoholic

[coarse laurel]

@raw river

[raw river]

i need to find my patches

theyre somewhere in my attic

[granite tartan]

Bruh

Everyone at my house is knocked tf out

[raw river]

i did find my name tags in my old bag

[coarse laurel]

It’s weird because we wear this on our other stuff but our SSI is

[raw river]

might get them turned into velcro

[coarse laurel]

Fucking airborne tabs love to fly the fuck off

So I carry a lot of extras

[raw river]

all velcro patches fly off

theyre gone forever

[snow scarab]

hey izurumi, if you were an AR, would you rather a SAW or an m27?

[coarse laurel]

M27 but it will be used as a rifle hahahaha

[snow scarab]

to actually use it as a SAW lol

[raw river]

the only time your old camo worked was when your patch fell off

[snow scarab]

a marine i know is saying that the m27 is better as a suppressive weapon under marine doctrine than a SAW lol

[coarse laurel]

I don’t even wear my OCP top at work, I’m a black shirt here

[raw river]

how

they have 30 round mags

[snow scarab]

600 rounds and 30 round magazines vs 1200 and a fucking nutsack

[snow scarab]

exactly what i said

they don’t even use pmag-40s for some reason

[coarse laurel]

I’ve seen some of them use the magpul drums

[raw river]

even with 4-5 round bursts you go through 30 rounds in no time

[coarse laurel]

Works decently but it won’t last long going cyclic

[raw river]

the day i see a marine with a drum mag is the day i move to alaska

[coarse laurel]

We have M5/M7’s here as a test bed in limited numbers

[snow scarab]

maybe first magazine. but that would be a bitch to carry in terms of finding pouches

[coarse laurel]

Can’t wait for the actual release

[snow scarab]

you’d need like a canteen pouch lol

[granite tartan]

@raw river just got a random check from AT&T lol

[plush topaz]

Stop trolling for 5 seconds for once

[coarse laurel]

Just use saw pouches

[raw river]

you gonna pay me back for ammo lmao

[granite tartan]

Yeah come over I’ll give you some ammo

[snow scarab]

they would have to buy them

[raw river]

i didnt see if you said while you were in the IDF

[raw river]

unfired ammo

[coarse laurel]

Bro they are fuckin issued lol

Have you never seen a pouch for the nutsacks?

[raw river]

or while you were in the IDF

[granite tartan]

Yeah I’ve got a lot of it

[raw river]

ik you were in the IDF

[granite tartan]

Fuck I’m exhausted

[snow scarab]

for us sure, the marines don’t

not from what my buddy is saying

[plush topaz]

Ok I assumed everyone knew machine guns were illegal in Canada lol

[raw river]

yea ik they are

[coarse laurel]

You underestimate how much money these guys have now, it’s also unit dependent

[raw river]

but i also didnt know you work for a fucking protection agency

@granite tartan i gotta adjust my foregrip what size allen keys u got

[granite tartan]

@raw river you coming over?

I got a full set

[raw river]

bet when u home?

[granite tartan]

Now

[raw river]

ight im omw

[granite tartan]

@raw river solid just walk in

[plush topaz]

Lol. I don't work for a protection agency. I'm on an in-house security team. So I'm employed by my boss's corporation which has nothing to do with security.

[raw river]

@granite tartan @plush topaz my neighbor walking with her 2 year old just saw me put a plate carrier and a rifle in my car lmao

[plush topaz]

That's fine.

My neighbours always see me do that

[raw river]

I love America

[granite tartan]

Who cares

[plush topaz]

You try your best not to flaunt. But what can ya do

[raw river]

Buy mechanix

[granite tartan]

@raw river there is a lot of people in my apartment

Sleeping

Fuck em

[raw river]

How many people living in your house lol

[granite tartan]

Whoops

@fluid plover accidentally said a bad word sorry

@raw river I get home and there’s like 3 people passed out

[raw river]

Ima donkey kick the door and sweep the living room

[granite tartan]

Based

[raw river]

Nah I'm in slides

I'm not breaking my foot

[granite tartan]

I am also In slippers

[raw river]

I had to move furniture for like 8 hours today

Was helping my uncle move

[granite tartan]

@plush topaz holy fuck

Dude like literally

Bro

Literally wearing body armor

walking around with a rifle

[plush topaz]

Isn't that not the most uncommon thing

[granite tartan]

It’s not

[echo jay]

that's a far more interesting sounding job than most of us have

[plush topaz]

Yes it's unique.

Very rare to find full time in house CP jobs for 1 principal

[echo jay]

wish I was doing something interesting like that

or even something that sounded interesting

[snow scarab]

nice

[twilit cape]

Nice joined the pvs-14 gang

[plush topaz]

Holy. Shit the tube is a lot nicer than I was expecting

Like zero noise in zero light

[thin apex]

pics

?

[snow scarab]

mans got his dogs out

[plush topaz]

Spooky

[raw river]

THE GRIPPERS
FOR FREE

Call me biden

[twilit cape]

Dam quad nods

[snow scarab]

that mans head is worth more than your car lol

also how’s that helmet treating you?

[twilit cape]

Good

Just need a counter weight

Also I wish I had 40k to blow on nods

[proud hazel]

i didenty get a sticker wtf

lucky

[plush topaz]

Sucker

[proud hazel]

to be fair i did get a free team windy exfil counter weight, ir light, and camo wrap

[plush topaz]

Well fuck you then

[proud hazel]

but i want a stcker

[plush topaz]

@proud hazel I need a counter weight

I'll just tape a magazine to my head

[proud hazel]

its nice to have one tbh

i like mine

[plush topaz]

I think this will let me put one on

[proud hazel]

what helmet is it

[plush topaz]

My helmet? Rabintex ultralight

[proud hazel]

do you like it?

[plush topaz]

Oh yeah

Love it. I stole it from the army.

[proud hazel]

very nice

[proud hazel]

tbh it looks a little old

[plush topaz]

Well yeah. It's the same helmet I used in the army

The one with nothing on it is my other helmet. Same one. Just never used.

Manufactured 2007

[proud hazel]

i think you would find that newer helmets would be even nicer, but yea i am sure its still nice

[plush topaz]

Oh for sure they are.

But this is still one of the lightest level 3a helmets around

1.9lbs

[sand rover]

And also don't have to spend money on what you already own

[plush topaz]

Bingo

[proud hazel]

yea i understand