irl-gear

[granite tartan]

I already have tinnitus

And hearing damage

[raw river]

So do I

[granite tartan]

Well

It sucks

@snow scarab post nods

[snow scarab]

that what i think it is?

cavity

[raw river]

Tf is that

[granite tartan]

Fuck happened to him

[raw river]

Nah that a tumor

[snow scarab]

ooooo

[raw river]

That made my toes curl

[snow scarab]

shrapnel + bang

bad mix

[raw river]

Is he dead

[snow scarab]

sounds about right

[granite tartan]

Based

Yikes

[raw river]

It's probably illegal

[snow scarab]

probably not the worst thing i’ve been shown

[raw river]

The mods don't even like me posting my feet with my guns

[granite tartan]

Dm it to me

[snow scarab]

uncle is a flight medic, shown me some fucked up shit

[snow scarab]

freak

[granite tartan]

@snow scarab ilose26 is my best friend

[raw river]

When I was a emt I saw a dude get cut in half by a semi

[raw river]

Traitor

[snow scarab]

ooooh

[granite tartan]

I key up on his comms to jam it

Every other day

[snow scarab]

i saw a dudes whole ass brain while missing both legs

they had to cut his skull open on the hawk

[raw river]

I watched the newest Ghostbusters film

[snow scarab]

yikes

easily the worst

[plush topaz]

It wasn't bad

[raw river]

It really is as bad as people say

[plush topaz]

2016's was terrible

[raw river]

@plush topaz strawberry hummus

[raw river]

That's the one I'm talking about did they make a new one?

[plush topaz]

Yes

[raw river]

Cringe

[raw river]

@granite tartan this the right radio right?

[mossy tartan]

Dm

[stuck hazel]

same tbh

aww shucks

[raw river]

anyone know what attachment type the LBX 0300 uses?

on the item description it just says modular

[stuck hazel]

sounds like a gnarly photo though

6 inches could of been 0

so theres that

[raw river]

@obsidian wolf what kind of attachment should i get for my mag pouches for the lbx 0300? doesnt say on the site

ah

and ofc the pouches dont have molle

[granite tartan]

👍

Make sure it’s p25

[raw river]

its from the link you sent me

[granite tartan]

Hold on

[raw river]

yea its p25 in the description

[granite tartan]

That doesn’t come with battery and chsrger

[raw river]

how much are those?

[snow scarab]

anybody used an esstac belt

[snow scarab]

3? might be a little overkill

[raw river]

Im only gonna run 2 the 3rd is gonna be at the top of my pack incase i need mags fast

[snow scarab]

have you already purchased it?

[raw river]

yea

[snow scarab]

feck

[raw river]

why

[snow scarab]

should’ve bought a 3 flat and then added one in a side or sum

[raw river]

eh its whatever

[mossy tartan]

Bruh

[snow scarab]

what

[granite tartan]

That is going to be goofy

[snow scarab]

that sounds painful

ngl

[misty mango]

downward facing mags go extremely hard unless youre short

[raw river]

or just dont run side mags

[granite tartan]

I run side magazines

[misty mango]

bad take

[raw river]

them shits suck

[granite tartan]

The lbx sucks

Literally airswos

@low fox where in myrtle beach isn’t awful

[raw river]

golf courses

wherever old rich white people are

@granite tartan get a gas mask so i can pt your ass in MOPP gear

middle of august

[snow scarab]

hell yeah

[raw river]

i used to have to do 12 burpees followed by 3 back to back Mozambique drills

with the fucking rubber boots

[granite tartan]

@low fox night shoot

You want to come

Since you ain’t doing nothing

You have a handgun?

Then come

We start at 7

[stuck hazel]

WORTH

go

night shoot>>

[granite tartan]

That’s my commute

[snow scarab]

how tf

yeah

[granite tartan]

Dang

@low fox dang, how far is the range from me

[raw river]

@granite tartan hold up that radio I bought doesn't have a battery at all? I gotta buy that shit for it to work?

[granite tartan]

Bout an arrow

[stuck hazel]

i mean thats how electrical devices generally work

[granite tartan]

I literally told you

[raw river]

[raw river]

How much is a battery

[misty mango]

6 million

[granite tartan]

$70

and you need a charger unless you want to use mine

[raw river]

Ight I'll just bum your charger

[stuck hazel]

bum his charger

[granite tartan]

Lol you’re blastlisted from images

[stuck hazel]

i feel like there are militia comms going on in the tarkov discord

lets go

[raw river]

No

[granite tartan]

Let them dogs out

[raw river]

The carpet is white tho

[stuck hazel]

the carpet was* white

[granite tartan]

It’s now yellow

[stuck hazel]

prior to the dogs being released

[raw river]

If you put bare skin on carpet you a fiend

[granite tartan]

iPhone is 9mm proof

[stuck hazel]

worst take

[raw river]

You shot your phone?

Wait that isn't even the model u have

[misty mango]

shot on iphone

an*

[stuck hazel]

que music

[raw river]

With how much dead shit is in them things? Thank God I took all the carpet out my house

[stuck hazel]

dead shit vs feet

feet win

[granite tartan]

We got a box full of stolen or confiscated electronics

[raw river]

Wear slides

[granite tartan]

We had to destroy them

[stuck hazel]

lol

[granite tartan]

Me and buddy opted to shoot them

[raw river]

Lemme get some

Damn nvm

[granite tartan]

There’s a ps4

We’re going to blow up

[misty mango]

[raw river]

Just say you stole it and bring it to a pawn shop

[misty mango]

best way to dispose

[granite tartan]

Listen

I’m going paid 20 something an hour just to shoot shit

Life is good

[stuck hazel]

i cant think of a better job

[granite tartan]

I can

[stuck hazel]

same.

[granite tartan]

Military dependent

[raw river]

Onlyfans foot model

[stuck hazel]

bu yk i was being nice no need to shoot it down

[granite tartan]

I dream

[raw river]

Same thing

[stuck hazel]

i get paid 25 an hour to chat shit about guns

no you cant take my job

even if you're more qualified

[raw river]

I wanna work in a gun store but all the decent ones require previous firearms sales experience

[stuck hazel]

just sell some on craigslist and stick it on your CV

[raw river]

[raw river]

@granite tartan this post right here

[stuck hazel]

whats po po gonna do

im long gone

cant stop me now

[snow scarab]

c2 lel

[snow scarab]

i fuckin wish

[stuck hazel]

fuck euros tho

[granite tartan]

We have a bunch

[snow scarab]

well yeah

[granite tartan]

Someone was worried if we set it on fire ittl detonate

Lol

[snow scarab]

lmfaooo

[granite tartan]

[stuck hazel]

mhm mhm

how c2 works

[granite tartan]

Set an anthill on fire near the explosive locker*

[snow scarab]

i fucked with an entire infantry squad like that

[stuck hazel]

lol

[granite tartan]

It has to be electrically stimulated

[raw river]

I used to throw my cigars in diesel fuel

[granite tartan]

I’ll show you guys the range

When I finish this bs video

[stuck hazel]

please

[snow scarab]

giving a class on c4, told them it wouldn’t go off, 3 minutes later i lit a block and tossed it

everyone scattered

[granite tartan]

Hahaha

[granite tartan]

That is hilarious

[raw river]

Hehe funny clay go

[snow scarab]

this giant SFC got in my face tryna say i tried killing them kek

[stuck hazel]

[granite tartan]

Bruh

[snow scarab]

told him he should’ve gotten his head out of his ass and paid attention to my class

[granite tartan]

Hahahah

[raw river]

Did you smoke him

[snow scarab]

pffft no

[raw river]

Wait what rank are you

[snow scarab]

my PS did

[granite tartan]

A Sfc?

[snow scarab]

e4

[raw river]

E4 mafia

[granite tartan]

Shovl is like an e2

[snow scarab]

sergeant first class

[granite tartan]

I know bro

[snow scarab]

e7

[granite tartan]

Bruh

I know

[snow scarab]

he tried getting me in trouble lol

[granite tartan]

I’d blast your ass too

[raw river]

Your sgt?

[snow scarab]

nah the one who yelled at me

[granite tartan]

My boots are getting nasty

[snow scarab]

my PS laughed

told him to grow up

and pay more attention

[raw river]

Smoking a vape near c2 is more dangerous than lighting it on fire lmao

[snow scarab]

c2 is just better than detcord imo

better for breaching as it’s more malleable

and safe to use indoors

[stuck hazel]

i see minimal nastiness

[raw river]

"Safe"

Not for your fucking ears

[snow scarab]

no it is

c2 is good for indoors due to its yield

c4 however

is not

[raw river]

The day someone breaches with c4 by accident is the day a marine squad dies

[snow scarab]

oh yeah

i saw a video of guys who uses a concrete charge on a giant wooden door in iraq, the whole wall came down 😂

[stuck hazel]

funny shit

needless to say

[raw river]

Have you seen the videos of soldiers taping ammo and grenades to rpg warheads

[stuck hazel]

explosives are cool as fuck

[snow scarab]

oh yeah

[stuck hazel]

still time yet, i do cool shit but i could be doing cooler shit with my life

[snow scarab]

i saw one dude that took the warhead out of his RPG netting on his buffalo and fucking yeeted it for it to go off

[raw river]

I saw a video of like 3 grenades tied to an rpg and I sat there for 5 minutes wondering what I just saw

Doesn't the rpg have a minimum arming distance of like 40 yards

[snow scarab]

should i buy anything else for the belt? @low fox @granite tartan

[stuck hazel]

something like that

[snow scarab]

apparently the esstac belts are pretty good

[raw river]

Sign that man to the patriots

[stuck hazel]

why not just get a BFG belt

[snow scarab]

well yeah, it already flew that far

[snow scarab]

doesn’t have 40% off rn

[raw river]

Oh it was a live one

[snow scarab]

yeah. you know the anti RPG shit on the outside of big trucks?

[raw river]

I thought this Chad spiraled a warhead 40 yards by tossing it

[raw river]

Yea the netting

[stuck hazel]

shit i thought BFG was that price normally my bad

[snow scarab]

no need for pistol mags rn, GP pouch-where do you recommend? and ifak i’ll look at BFG

if i can remember my password for my account

[raw river]

Go to like 3 Walmarts and steal the first aid kits in the bathrooms that's all u need

[granite tartan]

I wouldn’t get that belt

My coworker thinks he’s funny

[snow scarab]

why not? i’ve had a dozen people tell me it’s amazing and they love it

[granite tartan]

Get it

Take my axl

[snow scarab]

it’s too small

you thin hipped little fuck

[timber linden]

Send feet

[granite tartan]

It’s the same size as the belt you’re buying

[snow scarab]

you said it was 28-32

[granite tartan]

What size are you

[snow scarab]

32-34

[granite tartan]

Get an Aws smu

[snow scarab]

i don’t have that kind of money right now

this is still quality

[stuck hazel]

too late

[raw river]

You claim to be against Gucci setups but recommend expensive shit

[plush topaz]

It's a good basic belt. I run basically the same one

[snow scarab]

it’s all i need is basic

[raw river]

90% of people here

[snow scarab]

do either of those IFAKs come prepped? or they empty?

[timber linden]

“It’s real guns and armor what else do I need?”

-Usec larper from yesterday

[snow scarab]

what would you recommend i throw in it?

[timber linden]

Bandaids and q-tips

[snow scarab]

i’ve got a TQ pouch that imma throw another TQ in

i’ve got one on the SPC as well

[granite tartan]

What?

[raw river]

Idk I'm tired

[snow scarab]

maybe some immediate need stuff? gauze and a chest seal maybe

[stuck hazel]

youtube is your best option in that regard

[raw river]

@snow scarab do you put your tourniquets on each limb?

[snow scarab]

wdym?

like one on each limb to use or trying to stop bleeding on muself

[raw river]

Do you have a lose tourniquet on each limb

[snow scarab]

normally yeah

both shoulders and left ankle

but that’s not for my use

[raw river]

What about right ankle

[snow scarab]

shooting hand

[raw river]

You shoot with your feet?

[snow scarab]

as in it’s my shooting side

they aren’t for my use

[stuck hazel]

@snow scarab ask izurumi he does medic shit i believe

[snow scarab]

the belt and PC are for my use

oh yeah

the TQs i keep in pockets is to give out to other people/use on others

[raw river]

I'm saying do you put tourniquets on your limbs for your use

[snow scarab]

no

[raw river]

Do that

[snow scarab]

for others

and then i have 3 for myself

[raw river]

Put them on your limbs

[stuck hazel]

again you're talking to the wrong people about this

[raw river]

But you need gauze, elastic wrapping, shit for a sucking chest wound, painkillers if you can get your hands on the good shit

[stuck hazel]

izurumi or youtube

[raw river]

I was an emt for a year

[snow scarab]

so i should have 6 in my pockets?

[raw river]

No

[snow scarab]

i have 6 on me in total

[raw river]

Put 1 on each limb for you

[snow scarab]

3 on limbs 3 on gear

[stuck hazel]

fair enough then lol

[raw river]

Actually put them on your limbs so you don't have to BS around putting it on incase you have to do it yourself

You can just tighten and go

Or at least treat the bullet hole

Also you need a bag of safety pins

[snow scarab]

oh

wtf

sounds like an extra snag hazard

[raw river]

What did u think I meant

It isnt

[snow scarab]

i thought you meant in pockets

[raw river]

No

Takes too much time to get out

And adrenaline makes your hands shake

You can keep extras in your pockets all u want for others

But keep 1 on each limb for you

[stuck hazel]

ive never see that

do you have any images of people running like that

[raw river]

Idk what to even look up to find photos

[stuck hazel]

i mean ive seen people put on their tourniquets after being shot, ive never seen anyone running around with them hanging off their limbs

[plush topaz]

Because it doesn't really happen.

[raw river]

@snow scarab burn cream, neosporin, absorbent pads, gauze, elastic bandage, garment scissors? Moleskin

[stuck hazel]

i didnt think so.

[snow scarab]

all of that’s on my PC

or most of it is

scissors yes, gauze yes, i need to make a boo boo kit

[stuck hazel]

yk what

[raw river]

Hold up aren't you issued an ifak

[stuck hazel]

@coarse laurel do you have a minute?

[coarse laurel]

yea

[snow scarab]

yes but that’s on my IOTV

[coarse laurel]

whats up

[raw river]

Just buy what's in that

[stuck hazel]

whats your opinion on people running around with TQs already on their limbs

[raw river]

Er, what you're legally allowed to buy

[snow scarab]

i’m building a belt, LBT or GBRS pouch, what should i put inside?

[stuck hazel]

as in, ready

[plush topaz]

So many pics of dead Russians and ukes with TQs on

[coarse laurel]

lmao

[raw river]

Snacks

Dip cans

[snow scarab]

everything

[coarse laurel]

ok first of all, no thats not a fucking thing, there are however certain combat tops with a built in TQ but no thats stupid

[raw river]

Condoms you'll never use

[snow scarab]

thays what i thought

[snow scarab]

hey

[coarse laurel]

dead russians and ukes with TQ's on means someone put em the fuck down

[snow scarab]

they are kept at her house 😭

[plush topaz]

Not necessarily

[raw river]

They ain't for you chief

[stuck hazel]

yh didnt seem like a great idea

[coarse laurel]

i mean honestly unless the dude died of hypovolemic shock

[snow scarab]

anyways, LBT pouch is smaller and more built for a belt but more expensive, GBRS is cheaper but requires the certain kit

[coarse laurel]

but no thats fuckin sus and its already wrong to begin with

[snow scarab]

so in the end is more expensive

what about the BFG IFAKs with the pull outs

confixs shut up

[stuck hazel]

good

[coarse laurel]

main reason why you have TQ's on your pouches is so you can literally apply it to the affected limb, putting it on preemptively is dumb because anyone whose worn a TQ know that it limits your range of movement, there's also a possiblity of getting caught on shit and entirely just straight up losing and compromising said TQ

[raw river]

You don't tie it tight

And it really doesn't limit movement

[coarse laurel]

you loop it on the extremity through a buckle, super fucking tight then tighten the windlass

[raw river]

Yes ik how to use one

[coarse laurel]

its literally in the way, its fucking flopping about

what are you gonna do to the slack? either you tighten it so it doesnt fall off or its too loose and it falls the fuck off

thats why im saying it doesnt make any sense

[misty mango]

it will also make you look stupid

[raw river]

Loop it through the band? It takes less than half a second to undo it to twist it

[stuck hazel]

the most important thing

[misty mango]

and probably get uncomfortable after a while

[raw river]

Who cares how you look

[misty mango]

real gamers

[raw river]

[coarse laurel]

also anyone with up to date TC3 training knows to start applying deliberate tourniquets 2-3 inches above the wound nowadays rather than a simple high and tight. granted high and tight is still done by alot of people for simplicity but its literally more of the limbs to save

[snow scarab]

@coarse laurel imma send you the BFG pro kit, see if that’s a good starter or not

[coarse laurel]

and yes i know what im talking about, im a fuckin combat medic lol

[misty mango]

also pretty sure if someone youre serving with sees you with your TQ's on like that will point and laugh

[raw river]

Never said u didnt?

[plush topaz]

Or had other wounds. Or improperly applied.

[raw river]

Or his commander shot him

[snow scarab]

i still think about the zip tied TQ to this day

[raw river]

Knowing russia

[coarse laurel]

i wouldnt be surprised this stems from their ignorance when it comes to life saving measures like a TQ

[plush topaz]

But ya most likely ate a grenade dropped from a mavic pro

[coarse laurel]

there's a reason why we are training ukranian medics in fort sam houston atm

[misty mango]

you guys got ukes dragged all the way to the states for training?

[coarse laurel]

the freaking mortality rate in ukraine is so high right now because half the folks there dont know how TC3 works

yes

we also have ukes in fort sill for artillery training and bliss for patriot missile training

[misty mango]

damn
i expected US guys to be in Europe
not the other way around

[raw river]

I heard all the bases around San Antonio merged into JBSA or some shit

[coarse laurel]

i mean we have 3 brigades there right now, always been there on rotation

[misty mango]

ive met a few of the guys training in the uk

[coarse laurel]

yup, the air force did that now everything is technically theirs even though sam houston is army

[misty mango]

pretty cool bunch

didn't look a day over 18 though 💀

[raw river]

I fucking hated Lackland I got stuck there my entire contract

[coarse laurel]

sam houston is literally a bee hive of medical personnel, navy, army, air force, coast guard too

[snow scarab]

interesting

[raw river]

The animals are mutants

[coarse laurel]

we used to fight with the squids

[raw river]

Yea SAMMC is massive

[snow scarab]

that’s Leonard wood but engineers and MPs

[coarse laurel]

but yeah mortality is a big issue in ukraine. we use ukraine as a case study to further medical knowlege

[raw river]

Everytime I look at Leonard I have a stroke

In my head I say it as leon-ard and lennon wood at the same time

[coarse laurel]

lol the battle of fallujah was one of those big case studies where people learned alot

[snow scarab]

damn

[misty mango]

wasn't fallujah also a big case for cqb training?

[raw river]

Yes

[misty mango]

and maybe shorter rifles

[coarse laurel]

GWOT literally taught people in the combat medical circle that immediate MEDEVAC isnt always a thing so we trained in delayed evacuation which means having to sit on a patient for 24 or so hours

[raw river]

Fallujah was just a cluster fuck

[coarse laurel]

also the whole thing about carrying plasma and blood products with us on patrols

came up with a weird solution carrying some expensive ass Molle'd up coolers

[raw river]

You didn't carry blood on you until after fallujah?

How fucking old are you

[coarse laurel]

no one did, all blood is in the role 2 at least

role 2 meaning like a forward surgical site

or a MASH in the old days

then recently we started using walking blood banks

as medics we had to keep track of O negs in our companies so we can just hook up a transfusion line on them on the casualty collection point if needed

[raw river]

Just steal it from dead combatants

[coarse laurel]

blood loss is a hell of a thing

we cant take blood from foreign nationals because they never got tested for HIV/AIDS etc

[raw river]

Ik I was kidding

[coarse laurel]

just pointing out the reason, even our allies we cant get blood from them but we can give blood to them

[snow scarab]

isn’t AB pos like the universal receiver

[plush topaz]

Take their organs

[snow scarab]

confixs shut up

[plush topaz]

[coarse laurel]

lemme just check their wallet to see if they got their donor card

[raw river]

They don't have oil in them

[coarse laurel]

[plush topaz]

Sprinkle a little donor card on them

Oop. Free kidneys for all

[coarse laurel]

we also stopped using morphine, that shit lethal

[raw river]

I mean why wouldn't we harvest organs from combatants?

Literally free organs

[plush topaz]

Depleted uranium rounds

[coarse laurel]

because "some" assholes got lazy and not document doses and casualties ended up getting overdosed and just straight up dying

[raw river]

If you get shredded by an a10 there aren't any organs to harvest

[plush topaz]

Maybe some hair for the bald G's out there

[coarse laurel]

ketamine is the go to now since you can literally afford to overdose someone and the worse thing that can happen is they get knocked TF out for a couple of days

[raw river]

My grandpa bitched about that

[plush topaz]

Interesting! I think we still use morphine in Israel

[snow scarab]

really?

[coarse laurel]

israeli medics are pretty thorough from what i observed i trust them enough to use it

[coarse laurel]

yup lol

[snow scarab]

i thought ketamine was super easy to OD and die from

[coarse laurel]

usually we titrate for effect meaning we use whats needed but in a pinch we can just push a fuckton and just knock someone out

[snow scarab]

also, which package

[coarse laurel]

thats fentanyl

[snow scarab]

advanced kit i don’t need

so it’s between basic and pro

[coarse laurel]

get the essentials

and ask a medic for a chest seal

[raw river]

Isn't quikclot powder really bad for you

[coarse laurel]

lemme lay out my ifak real quick

[raw river]

I mean so are bullet wounds

[snow scarab]

is that what the dressing is?

oh yeah

i might get the pro

[raw river]

No it's a powder you pour in the wound

[snow scarab]

it’s everything i need plus i’ve got a chest seal on my PC

[raw river]

Hasn't been used in awhile cause iirc the chemicals can fuck up your blood or something

[snow scarab]

if i’m needing more than a set of chest seals i need to get tf out of dodge

[raw river]

@coarse laurel prob knows better

[snow scarab]

cause something is blowing through body armor

[coarse laurel]

This is literally all that’s needed

For an IFAK

[raw river]

What do hajis have that beats level iv?

[snow scarab]

is that belt?

[coarse laurel]

Yes

[misty mango]

jokes on you i can get ket from my neighbours

[snow scarab]

i’m not worried about hajis. i’m worried about russians and chinese

[raw river]

Dshks

[coarse laurel]

The tactical burn dressing is extra, it’s for white phosphorus and burn injuries

[snow scarab]

they have high powered rifles grenades remember

[raw river]

Is 54r ap rated for iv

[coarse laurel]

NPA is for people who needs an airway

[raw river]

Does Russia and China even use the svd anymore

[snow scarab]

the ET dressing, what’s that?

[coarse laurel]

It’s the Israeli bandage

[snow scarab]

oh

[stuck hazel]

To an extent, yes

[misty mango]

rarely

[coarse laurel]

NAR Emergency Trauma Dressing (ETD) - 8" x 10"

[misty mango]

its more specialised now though iirc

[raw river]

I mean there's photos of them using Mosins but idk if that's propaganda or not

[misty mango]

that was the DPR in Ukraine

the broke boys

[raw river]

Is that the penal unit

[misty mango]

donetsk peoples republic

[raw river]

I've actively tried ignoring the Ukraine bs

No idea what that is

[misty mango]

the ruski loyalists

[raw river]

Ah

[misty mango]

basically just have the shit you can dig out off ww2 museums

mosins
ssh helmets

all that shit

[raw river]

Shopping cart kord

[misty mango]

iirc they got picked up by the RGF part way through and actually have "equipment" now

[snow scarab]

that’s the big ass one right? little plastic tab to wrap back in itself?

[coarse laurel]

Yes

[snow scarab]

gotcha

i might just buy the pouch itself from BFG then throw a chest seal, israeli bandage, and quikclot in it rn

and then imma make a boo boo kit too

[coarse laurel]

yeah all the small stuff like bandaids i just toss them in my admin pouch

[snow scarab]

yeah might put them in my dangler

ah shit, i might not have to buy any thing for thd kit

pretty sure i have extras in my car kit

@raw river i get a whopping 9 dollars off with MIL discount lol

[raw river]

Thank you for your cervix

Why didn't u use MOE40

[snow scarab]

i did for the esstac stuff

for the BFG pouch i mean

[raw river]

Oh

What is it originally

[snow scarab]

also i said that exact thing to my gf when she got her IUD lol

[snow scarab]

89.95

[raw river]

[raw river]

Can it fit beans

[snow scarab]

idk

[raw river]

What's the volume

[snow scarab]

6x3.5x2.5

[raw river]

BRB gonna do some math

[raw river]

2 regular sized cans of bush's baked beans

If the cans were square you could fit 2 regular 1 small

[snow scarab]

lmfao

[raw river]

Why are cans round

We could pack more square cans in a box

[snow scarab]

opening is easier

[raw river]

Wym

Spam cans

[snow scarab]

those have rounded edges

[coarse laurel]

i like putting vienna sausages and spicy olive oil sardines in my sustainment pack

its small enough

[raw river]

Sardines?

[coarse laurel]

these things saved my life

lol

[snow scarab]

tuna

best protein to weight ratio you can really get

i carry a bunch of the star kist ones

[coarse laurel]

i started carrying rice as well

i figured out some shit after eating alot of korean mre's while i was with them in the dmz in 21

i rarely eat our MRE's unless im super desperate or im doing a school

[raw river]

The new obsession of the average 20-32 year old male is lockpicking

MREs don't even taste bad

Depending on the flavor

[snow scarab]

apparently nobody likes tuna, so anytime there is one i get it for something in my MRE

[coarse laurel]

its not the taste, its the after and longterm effects

[snow scarab]

shits based af

[whole vault]

I have never encountered anyone outside my field interested in lockpicking. What are you talking about? Lol

[coarse laurel]

here in ranger school its all these fuckers eat and im seeing alot of GI issues

among the ranger students

[snow scarab]

lmao

i’ve never had problems with not shitting

[coarse laurel]

dude the amount of preservatives on some of these mre's is insane

[snow scarab]

imma check my car kit when i get off to see if i need to buy extra gauze and shit

[coarse laurel]

especially the beef meals

[snow scarab]

oh yeah

the chicken ones aren’t too bad about it

[coarse laurel]

@snow scarab loadout

[snow scarab]

over is

nevermind

i see now

i was gonna say the over is wrong 😭

and completely missed the anime

[raw river]

Southwest beef patty is the best one tho

@snow scarab I have a fucked up joke for you

[snow scarab]

bet

[granite tartan]

@low fox demo went good

They want an AOP report for l3 Harris units and uh lasers

For like 1-200k

From me

Bruh we don’t have the crime

Nor the population size besides that one festival

Man I really liked the team Wendy helmet

@snow scarab I loved the team Wendy

[snow scarab]

ha

[granite tartan]

I preffered the suspension over the opscore like

[snow scarab]

i might get the ballistic SL one in the future

[granite tartan]

Night and day

I have to get a Wendy

They have fast mt and exfil

I have a fast SF

[snow scarab]

probably the SL for y’all

[granite tartan]

But yeah

@low fox the Sf3p performed as well as the deadair cans lol

Uh terms of flash reduction

Kinda funny

Ya know what’s funny

Our swat team has the same ones

[snow scarab]

is that a fucking standalone 203

[granite tartan]

Well they’re black

And have our insignia on them

[snow scarab]

that is wack af

also custom vans are dope

i’m a hi top hore

[granite tartan]

That you in the picture?

Cringe and gay

[snow scarab]

boutta buy some

[granite tartan]

Why vans?

The Sf3p is a kick ass device

Eotechs are fantastic under nods too

[snow scarab]

may 27

sold to civilians

multicam, arid, black

and tropic

it’s sk8-hi’s in a partnership with defcon

so it’s probably in the ball park

[granite tartan]

Not everyone has nod experience

[snow scarab]

basic bitch model style

might need to adjust the cummerbund here soon 🥲

@granite tartan

and yes i’m working on the back panel

lmfao

i’m tryna sell some shit so i can buy better plates

maybe

i’m tryna sell my old carrier and plates

[raw river]

What size are your feet

[snow scarab]

to buy new plates

[snow scarab]

12/12.5

[raw river]

Damn nvm u can't pass as a woman

[granite tartan]

@low fox the spc is great

[snow scarab]

💀

[granite tartan]

Leo/mil discount on hesco is 50%

[snow scarab]

wait seriously???

hold up mike

are you shitting me

or is that true

[granite tartan]

No I’m lying?

It’s 40-50%

[plush topaz]

Lol. You got altamas?

[snow scarab]

?

[granite tartan]

Ngl

[plush topaz]

The shoes

[granite tartan]

I wear a lot of boots

[snow scarab]

oh the slippers

idk

[plush topaz]

No lol

[snow scarab]

i’m wearing socks rn

and then the slippers are visible

[granite tartan]

@low fox ima come visit y’all soon

[plush topaz]

Altamas

[granite tartan]

We do the federal meet annual

Fuck I’m not going to be home till 10

[misty mango]

this

[muted gate]

Imagine clearing a house instead of making the house go bye bye

[misty mango]

literally

image so i dont get cuckmodded

[snow scarab]

@granite tartan just found out that LTC is based in wichita

[granite tartan]

Imagine OTG

[snow scarab]

are .04 plates still gtg? i know they aren’t technically drop safe but i’m also not throwing my plates around

[granite tartan]

No idea

Again I’m a new hire

I hate CQB

We have the throw drones

Heh

Literally they’re configured to take explosives and blow up

[snow scarab]

hescos lvl 4 plates are iffy right?

kek

[granite tartan]

Their 400-600 yeah

Their 800s are good

[snow scarab]

gotcha

then i might get these LTC plates

it’s their .04 ones

480 for a set

i don’t have 3-5k laying around lmfao

[granite tartan]

Make sure you buy sapi plates

And not 10x12

[snow scarab]

i’m only finding the stealth

[snow scarab]

yeah it’s mediums

[granite tartan]

@low fox escort me around your town

[snow scarab]

where could i find the -2

[granite tartan]

I do really be liking 14.5 length

I chipped my scalar mount too

Baja blast vision and Baja blast

Mid length gas

Is the big one for me

12.5 im not a fan of period

It doesn’t run well

12.5 is too much dwell for carbine and too little for mid length

13.9/14.5 because NFA Reqs

[snow scarab]

if 12.5 is too much dwell for carbine then 14.5 must be WAY too long

[granite tartan]

No shit

14.5 carbine is dumb as hell

Imagine not using a work lower

But that 14.5 mid length is just so smoothe

[snow scarab]

i love the 16 mid length

[granite tartan]

What you run

[snow scarab]

mcx probably

ooo

i’m tempted to get one

[granite tartan]

Fucking lol

[snow scarab]

i was boutta fucking say

[granite tartan]

Lol

[snow scarab]

just the .300

[granite tartan]

There is nicer guns that don’t suck

[snow scarab]

true

[granite tartan]

My surprise from my coworker

Thought it was funny

[snow scarab]

i don’t get it

donuts?

@low fox i have an old condor dump pouch, should i throw that on my belt

[granite tartan]

Man you run a gbrs belt gross

[snow scarab]

pig deltas, based

[granite tartan]

Pig deltas are great

The black and multicam belts are mine

Probably

[snow scarab]

lmfao

[granite tartan]

I don’t sleep a lot and I’m going through some shit

[snow scarab]

he has had like 2 concussions in the last 6 months

[granite tartan]

Prolly that

[granite tartan]

Unironically yeah

Forgot that happened

I wrecked at fort Jackson and downtown Florence

[snow scarab]

make sure you are a little further from explosives than everyone else lol

lmfaooo

just randomly found my pinks and greens belt lol

been looking for it

@calm stone @worthy heart i found them

[worthy heart]

Oh no

[calm stone]

Kek

[snow scarab]

bought it as a joke last year

put them on my ACH for a range

i’m looking for shit to sell lmfao

and i stumbled upon them

[granite tartan]

I might actually replace my t2 with an eotech

Or I might do it on my next gun

I wish the eotech had a better battery

[snow scarab]

@low fox @coarse laurel @storm peak oh god flashbacks

[coarse laurel]

Lmao

Man how often do you go to the field

[snow scarab]

not very often rn, but my next units gonna be pretty much every month. i’m going through a bag of shit from BCT

finding shitty gloves, my engineer book, little blue book

[coarse laurel]

My god you are literally a baby still

[snow scarab]

yes

i just hit my 2 year in november and same with my one year AIT graduation

[coarse laurel]

At least ur in the guard you don’t have to go through 2 month field cycles

[snow scarab]

guard does stuff weird

[coarse laurel]

Living in the woods or desert the whole time

[snow scarab]

oh we still do NTC and JRTC

i just got lucky to miss em

[granite tartan]

Make it rechargeable

[coarse laurel]

NTC/JRTC ain’t that bad

[snow scarab]

actually i’m pretty sure we are doing NTC this year

end of the year for pre mob

no clue yet

[coarse laurel]

My previous unit is doing pre NTC shit and they are literally working 15 hour days right now lmao

People are texting me how shitty it is

Meanwhile I’m working 24 on 48 off in Darby right now

Within the 24 hrs I spend 6-8 with the RI’s the rest I just sleep in the cadre break room or play Xbox haha

[snow scarab]

lmfao

sounds like a dream

[snow scarab]

found someone willing to buy them

[proud hazel]

what the dumb ass take is this

literally false

its not even a take

its just factually wrong

wow it has like 200fps more

you prove your own wrongness

m193 is good

and if you go up to 77gn you gain more too

but yes you gain more fps with 14.5 just because its longer

its generally better

but the gas system is kinda wacky

12.5 is just not as good a gas system idk what to tell you

no its better on every round

some only 20 or so

its not but its really cheap and works well enough

its within margin of error

[snow scarab]

i’d imagine 55a1 is pretty major change in a 14.5

simply cause it’s designed for it

[proud hazel]

i dont know that i would believe that

[proud hazel]

idk they are really similar lengths, and it is an sbr optimized round so it should have a really fast burn rate

[snow scarab]

fair

[proud hazel]

12.5 should come pretty close with heavy bullets and 14.5 should pull away with 55gn

so 14.5 is a better generalized length

i am surprised mk262 did as that chart says

idk if i believe it, i would have to test for my self

@long hinge am i missing any thing

plus again the gas system on a 12.5 is not as good

[long hinge]

Hmm?

[proud hazel]

mans is claiming that 12.5 is better then 14.5 and that 14.5 has no ballistics advantage

wrong

m193 is pretty decent

[muted gate]

i have a copypasta for this

STOP DOING SBR M4 MODS
-M4 BARRELS WERE NOT MEANT TO BE CHOPPED IN HALF
-YEARS OF MK18 and URGI development yet NO REAL-WORLD USE FOUND for CIRCUMSIZING THE GAS SYSTEM
-Wanted to clear a room? We had a tool for that. It was called A 220 POUND MARINE WITH A FULL LENGTH M16.
-"Yes please give me HALF OF A GUN. Please give me INEFFECTIVE RESULTS PAST 45 YARDS." -Statements dreamed up by evil RANGERS

LOOK at what BATT BOYS have been demanding your Respect for all this time, with their 10.3 inch BARRELS & CLOSE QUARTERS OPTICS we built for them
(This is REAL URBAN OPS done by REAL INFANTRY MARINES)

"Hello I would like WILD AND CRAZY 5.56 CARTRIDGES TO SUIT MY SHITTY BARREL LENGTH please"
They have played us for absolute fools

[long hinge]

@proud hazel heavy bullets work best in shorties not because they have similar velocity but because they perform well at lower velocity.

14.5 is superior in every way to 12.5 except maneuverability in tight spaces.

Just like 20" is superior in every way to 14.5 except maneuverability in tight spaces.

[proud hazel]

it is the cheapest easiest to find and its very effective

to write it off is dumb

[muted gate]

193 is great

me

[long hinge]

13.9 is probably the best midpoint simply because you get near 14.5 while still being shorter with a supressor.

[proud hazel]

there are better but its a great round

[long hinge]

M193 is a pretty good round for many purposes.

For any gun with a barrel longer than 12.5"

[proud hazel]

if i am to stock up thousands of rounds of one kind i would chose m193

[muted gate]

I rock 193 as its what 95% of what my guns are made for. Galil, Ar 70/90, my 8 m16 clones

etc

[proud hazel]

its great, and 55a1 sucks

its over pressure even

fuck that

it pen holes

what is this guy on

acid cus he straight trippin

[long hinge]

M855a1 eats bolts and feed ramps, requires specific mags, and does not perform better on soft targets than any other round in current use.

[muted gate]

im 95% sure they did fix the feed ramp decimation issue

[long hinge]

@muted gate that's why you need the specific mags.

They change the feed angle.

[muted gate]

inherently that isnt bad, it just requires planning

[long hinge]

It's a pointless round that's trying to push 5.56 to do things it can't, which they had to drop the pressure on and made it questionably effective at the job it was designed for.

[muted gate]

855a1 when it first was intro'd had a habit of breaking the feedramps in the barrel extension. It was a massive issue when it was in the XM phase

[long hinge]

People who shoot guns in the military very rarely know anything about guns.

[snow scarab]

12.5 with a carbine length has the same dwell time as a 14.5 mid does it not?

[muted gate]

or, hear me out

we dont run shorties with an inch of space post gas block

it carried over into the adoption

[long hinge]

It was solved by replacing the magazines entirely.

Not by fixing the problem.

[snow scarab]

AHA no. the ballistic testing says otherwsie

[proud hazel]

wrong again

[proud hazel]

similar but has higher portpop

[long hinge]

I can pull a trigger 75,000 times and not know a fucking thing about the gun I'm shooting.

[snow scarab]

considering it yaws, fragments, and tumbles in flesh at basically my velocity

[proud hazel]

nope it does not, show proof

[snow scarab]

that was quite literally one of the tests done by the army

[long hinge]

I'm not gonna speak to the ballistics gel effect of 855a1

[proud hazel]

then post it

because it does not

[long hinge]

But I will say it doesn't work on the armor it's designed for.

[snow scarab]

barrier penetration and ballistic capability

[snow scarab]

it’s the military, they don’t post every test they do

[long hinge]

The only thing it does well is not be m855

[snow scarab]

but i’ll try to find it

[proud hazel]

yes and its terminal ballistics suck on soft targets

they said fuck it good enough

[snow scarab]

yes, because if performs nearly twice as good as m855 at lower velocities

[long hinge]

If you knew anything about what you were talking about you'd know they literally do have problems with the guns. For one thing they are ABSOLUTELY not making 75,000 rounds of m855a1 between parts swaps.

[proud hazel]

ah yes better then a turd

[long hinge]

The best AR15 bolt heads on the market die in less than 30,000 rounds with normal m193 spec ammo

M855a1 pushing at a higher pressure is going to reduce that.

[proud hazel]

i should mention he is a cop and thinks that makes him an expert

[long hinge]

M855a1 problems are the reason the new mag followers were adopted.

[muted gate]

it is largly a mag issue, but the problem is that 855a1 and 995 to the same extent damage the barrel easier than standard 855

not to mention that old mags can stay in the supply hut for years without being binned

[long hinge]

@muted gate it's the penetrator tip, it digs into the feed ramps. The fix was they just changed the mag follower.

[muted gate]

i know, thats what i said

[muted gate]

but again, the problem is that old mags can stick around in the chain for years

[long hinge]

But they haven't universally switched to these mags and likely never will

So you're going to see m855a1 eat barrels alive for years to come.

[snow scarab]

https://smallarmssolutions.com/home/the-m855a1 individual testing, shows improvements in solid metal penetration, destruction of tissue. yes i realize it shows the problems too

[snow scarab]

the new EPM just works better with all rounds tbf

[long hinge]

It's performance is superior to m855, yes.

But m855 is literally worse than m193

[snow scarab]

out of an m16, sure

855 out of something like the SAW produces much more improved results over an m4/m16

[long hinge]

It can cause bolt overrides.

Far more often.

I have seen ARs just straight up push the round down and fail to feed.

On an empty chamber.

[snow scarab]

never seen it happen. whether it be with m4s and 55a1 or civilian firearms

and i’ve used them… a lot

[proud hazel]

bro this shows a1 doing worse then 855

[snow scarab]

how

[proud hazel]

look at how much bigger that wound is on the top

[long hinge]

I repaired 10-20 ARs a day for five years, and spent every waking hour for three of those years on range. I have seen it happen.

[snow scarab]

look at the actual numbers. it’s taller, not by much, while 55a1 is much wider of a wound

[proud hazel]

ah its zoomed out too

[long hinge]

The problem is the bolt face has less surface area touching the case head.

It's a big issue with things running 18-20 inch barrels.

[snow scarab]

yeah. 14.875 MPD vs 22.75

[proud hazel]

yea i see now

that is good for an ap round

[snow scarab]

were you an armorer?

[long hinge]

Not military, but I am an armorer.

[proud hazel]

but its still not as good as other options like m193

or my favorite 73gn critical defense

[snow scarab]

193 would preform arguably much worse due to being so velocity dependent

wouldn’t it?

[long hinge]

M193 is more velocity dependant.

And doesn't perform well on light cover.

[proud hazel]

yes but no

[snow scarab]

and you worked with rifles using EPMs?

[proud hazel]

a 14.5 would get it there but not for long

[long hinge]

Plenty.

The main things to take away from m855a1:

The mags they need may not work well for longer guns.

The round performs better than m855 at everything, while it is superior to m193 at lower velocity performance, barrier penetration, light armor, etc.

The tradeoff is it will wreck your gun faster than anything else will.

And it's lead free.

That last one is important.

[proud hazel]

now may i say that civs cant even buy it

[long hinge]

Yeah that makes it practically a non starter for most here.

[proud hazel]

critical defense or mk262 is the way

[snow scarab]

when i found out the lead free i found it kinda funny

“we need to keep our ranges green”

not like it’s only used to burn powder

[long hinge]

That's Hella important. Someone has to clean that shit up.

And primers also contained lead up until recently @snow scarab

[proud hazel]

any way sorry to bug you cipher

[snow scarab]

i didn’t know that

[long hinge]

So someone spending day and night firing machine guns, in enclosed spaces, like, say, a door gunner? Lead poisoning is a BIG risk @snow scarab

The new "green" rounds don't use lead in any part of the cartridge.

[snow scarab]

that’s true, i didn’t even think about that

[proud hazel]

i just find it ignorant that some one thinks they can outsmart physics

[snow scarab]

the range was what they listed as a major issue is the only funny part

[long hinge]

@proud hazel to answer your question, a longer barrel always better.

Trivially better maybe

But better.

Except when doing CQB shit.

Or jumping out of trucks.

[proud hazel]

doesnt 12.5 have worse gas system too

[snow scarab]

also door gunner maybe not. however a joe in some kind of static gunnery would benefit more

[proud hazel]

like more portpop etc

[long hinge]

12.5 carbine is good, 12.5 mid can be sketchy unsupressed.

[snow scarab]

that’s what i thought

[long hinge]

It's all timing. If you decrease dwell time you increase flow.

[proud hazel]

pretty sure it has way higher port pressure

[long hinge]

14.5 carbine kinda fucking sucks.

Because the amount of dwell time on that is unnecessarily long.

[proud hazel]

how does 20 in get away with it

[long hinge]

The pressure drops as it reaches the gas port and drops as it travels down the gas tube @proud hazel

[proud hazel]

makes sense

[long hinge]

The longer your gas system, the lower the pressure at the BCG

[proud hazel]

makes sense

[long hinge]

It's why a midlength 11.5 and 12.5 runs flawlessly if timed right but a rifle length 16" doesn't work worth a flying damn unsupressed.

There's just not enough to work with.

Despite them having the same dwell time, all things considered.

[proud hazel]

dissy

[long hinge]

Yeah the reason you never see Dissys is because they're not super reliable, they need hot ammo, and usually supressors.

[proud hazel]

based

all guns should have a can

[long hinge]

The AR world has kinda figured out that midlength is perfect

There is almost no barrel length above 11 that you can't run midlength well.

[snow scarab]

mine is a 16 and i love the impulse

[long hinge]

11.5, 12.5, 13.7, 13.9, 14.5, 16, 17, 18", all work great with mid gas with very little fuss.

[proud hazel]

try a 20

20 is so smooth

[snow scarab]

oh i know

[long hinge]

20" rifle gas is still the king for a reason

[snow scarab]

but the 16 in mid-length is the perfect in between

[long hinge]

It's almost like it's what the gun was designed for or something idk

[long hinge]

I like 13.9 mid

[proud hazel]

i like 11.5 13.9/14.5 and 20

16 does fine

[snow scarab]

i plan on doing a 12.5 maybe

[long hinge]

Carbine gas is awful on every length.

[proud hazel]

idk mine is a carbine 11.5

its pretty solid

[long hinge]

Yeah and it's gonna eat it's springs in about 5K

[proud hazel]

oh shit

[long hinge]

Less if you run that high back pressure can on it a lot.

[proud hazel]

i am past that

send springs

[long hinge]

Swap your springs.

[snow scarab]

fuck me, i wanna buy these plates rn

but i can’t until i sell my current ones