irl-gear

[ionic fiber]

can some1 tell me what helmet this guy is wearing it looks like a ach or fast mt but idk

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036009103018954765/1038517650915086406/unknown.png

[misty mango]

looks like a highcom helmet with ARC rails

[snow scarab]

my man’s got the entire crye AVS set for soft armor 😂

[misty mango]

he looks like an entryman/breacher
id want as much protection as i can get

[low zodiac]

How I’m looking driving through Chicago

[verbal karma]

Looks like either a Highcom Striker ACHHC

or since he's LE possibly an Avon ACH high cut

Avon has an N39 variant that comes with ARC rails but no mount for noodles

[ionic fiber]

ikr whats going on with my county swat

[snow scarab]

not really

shit catches too much

[snow scarab]

plus it’s heavy as fuck and you already got to carry shit like a hooligan or a battering ram

[snow scarab]

@coarse laurel do you think the SPC would fit ar670 if i put a back panel on it?

[coarse laurel]

It’s command dependent

Not ar 670-1 specific

That’s only for uniform items not gear

[snow scarab]

ah ok

damn

i thought it had to have certain requirements

[broken bison]

Hes police. Swat and police tend to ip armor since mobility isnt really a concern for them.

[snow scarab]

till would be a no from me

i’d rather not have extra shit that can catch on wood and metal on an entry if i don’t need to

that’s how you get killed

[broken bison]

The only thing he has to worry about is his shoulder

[snow scarab]

you’d be surprised how easily a dick flap catches on shit

[broken bison]

And most swat or other encounters are in homes and long corridors

Different conpared to conventional

[snow scarab]

or a piece of door hanging down catching the collar

[broken bison]

If u have a hallway fight both sides are going to take casualties.

[snow scarab]

and i’d like to be able to get out of the way of bullets as fast as possible

[broken bison]

U gotta get any advantage so up armoring is a must

[broken bison]

In a hallway?

[snow scarab]

up armoring in that way isn’t gonna do shit

it’s all 3a

chances of going in with that kind of gear on a normal drug bust is slim

[broken bison]

Ur not sprinting marathons ur running like 50m nax

So if ur room clearing

And taking hostages

And ur point man

With no shield

Ur gonna wear light??

And military in general makes u carry more gear

So they dont need half the shit a soldier needs

Like a swat officers gear looks like itll be like 20-30 pounds

And a soldiers gear is closing in around 40 without a ruck

[coarse laurel]

Bruh what

It’s all about light fighting these days, light infantry don’t even wear their plate carriers half the time during a movement

[storm peak]

where? It's a requirement to wear kit outside of the wire

[granite tartan]

I’m wearing some kit rn

Got a day shoot

[keen flume]

Hello does anyone here have any opinion on arken optics scopes?

I saw they have some pretty cheap scopes for sale and I’m thinking of getting the ep5

Wrong chat rip

[coarse laurel]

in afghanistan yes, most light units especially when airborne guys jump and do their movements and rucks without armor on

rucking with your plates is not fun

especially when you are carrying 1-2 weeks worth of shit

they have their armor inside their rucks though

wearing it is another thing

especially with the way our bullshit ocie rucks are designed its miserable

[storm peak]

I am also airborne and have been in airborne units for the last 6 yrs

You don't jump with plates on yes, it'll snap your spine line a twig. Movements are still with plates, ruck, and weapon. Usually you just drop your chutes in a consolidated pile on the dz and chute recovery team snags them up

[storm peak]

Ain't nobody doing static lines jumps out here in the me bro. It's all kit for everything

I'm even talking for iraq/syria

[coarse laurel]

i mean for iraq and syria definitely since no one is really rucking it out there and its mostly mechanized and shit

or jumping for that matter

[storm peak]

Am in syria rn, it's all kit for any movement

[ancient grail]

I love being fa and not dealing with this

[coarse laurel]

meanwhile i have to carry all of that plus my class 8

i have to cross load with folks

[echo jay]

paul harrel is that you

[stuck hazel]

What the fuck is this statement..

“I know what’ll get people killed, tell em they don’t need to be mobile!” -that kid

Damn look at how encumbered they are

[coarse laurel]

lol little did he know thats its easier to get caught on shit the more you have

[snow scarab]

exactly

but nooooo

the mf trained in breaching doesn’t know shit

[coarse laurel]

its usually the fuckin ruskie fanboys who think the whole juggernaut look works in practice

[snow scarab]

i mean it does until the hit your shoulder with a rifle round or you become a heat cat

[snow scarab]

what would be the best possible radio someone could buy for comms linked to something like comtacs? preferably one of the heavier duty ones, but lower cost options work too.

[coarse laurel]

you can use comtacs with anything as long as you have the adapter

[snow scarab]

but what would be the recommendation? like best bang for buck

[coarse laurel]

lol i use a civillian PRC-152

[snow scarab]

you can buy them?

everywhere i've seen it says can't buy them civilian side

could you send me a link good sir?

[coarse laurel]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/274322070493?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201210111314%26meid%3Df3180e94c470412b94cbd1c682b4134b%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D283127903793%26itm%3D274322070493%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv11WebTrimmedV3MskuAspectsV202110NoVariantSeedKnnRecallV1&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A274322070493f3180e94c470412b94cbd1c682b4134b|enc%3AAQAHAAABIMFr2e4EmAnM%252ByHZkULYKDIJ4L66fOjNL0iupgt%252BzO1%252F3AE1t3mNirUYB96NktMCicMagiS6mbeTl0xquGODv9mTBcDy%252F1qNTrAFLmQLuV95GG8HWj9esbjbhFZNmPczb%252BT2%252FPZ4A2XFENLi5dM7UX8XikavGDiZ6vZ5Bmhu81xlySuosWzzDHyHstJVT%252F9thRiDr51V4z3%252Fr9NCa0lKU3Fan525ueipW8P0cVf3Q%252BvVQgAF5LOWfhu73RmKpi1osNA209qS8UxgGsOSLd%252Fs7RZTFIqJlu95wwShnkxh2zzeJxQOP6zGsxptxICYorBL4ow0499iiUGVhb%252Fm8jXjkOkKrYmK3biu4mLMYFo5hSuphiwwcaVp6JL78KVieOVv5A%253D%253D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2047675

here's an example

[snow scarab]

ah

"civilian"

[coarse laurel]

my buddy and i tested something similar and it worked up to 40-50 miles

[snow scarab]

damn

[coarse laurel]

need to get a long whip antenna though

[snow scarab]

lemme pick your brain for a sec

thats what we use overseas outside the wire right?

or what is its use military wise

[coarse laurel]

no, the legit harris is an SI

[tidal fiber]

Dumpbag shenanigans

[coarse laurel]

this one acts more like a HAM radio

[snow scarab]

ah ok

[coarse laurel]

works good for squad comms if ur not doing serious shit

naturally it uses a 5 pin

meaning ur peltor ptt will work

hell even your standard handmic you use for the asips

[snow scarab]

huh ok

good to know

another way random question, wtf are the new helmets called?

[coarse laurel]

lol there's several

you talking about the IHPS the one thats get RFI'd?

[snow scarab]

yeah

thats the one i've been seeing i think

[coarse laurel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Head_Protection_System

[snow scarab]

yeah that one

whats really the difference? besides the integrated rails for lights and the integrated night vision shroud?

[coarse laurel]

the ears are a higher cut

and it comes with a fuckin mount

[snow scarab]

so allows for use of comtacs. nice.

[coarse laurel]

it should, there's also an NSN for the AMP arms

[snow scarab]

that ones gotta look weird lol

[coarse laurel]

but i think the setup mostly works with the opscore amps rather than peltors

[snow scarab]

ewwww wtf

the wiki says that there was a mount specifically made for comtacs

is this really that much cheaper than just buying opscores? like damn lol

wait are we switching to binocular night vision as well for regulars?

oh shit, second quarter they are giving out the envg-b to a line unit

[coarse laurel]

Lol

[snow scarab]

oh fuck you 😂

[coarse laurel]

yea psq-42's if ur active duty

[snow scarab]

i read this entire article wrong lmfaooo

[coarse laurel]

https://twitter.com/usarmy/status/1331419527293399041?lang=en

U.S. Army (@USArmy)

We own the night! 🌙

The AN/PSQ-42 Enhanced Night Vision Goggle (ENVG) is a combat multiplier that will increase #Lethality despite weather, obscurants or poor lighting conditions.

#ArmyTech | #LightFighters | @25thID

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we had em in korea

[snow scarab]

so that and the ihps is going to replace the pvs 14 and the ACH long term hopefully?

[coarse laurel]

unless ur deploying or you are active duty unit u might not see them for awhile

yes

[snow scarab]

i mean i'm going to volunteer for a deployment sometime next year

[coarse laurel]

the 18th airborne corps dudes and fort carson and other units have them already

and the ones deploying

[snow scarab]

probably after i go through MOS Q and go to the infantry unit

although im just gonna try to deploy as a 12B

[coarse laurel]

lol are you reclassing?

jfc

[snow scarab]

being forced to

the only 12B unit in the state of kansas is folding its flag

[coarse laurel]

are you slotted to go to benning

[snow scarab]

so we are having to chose other MOS

[coarse laurel]

or are they making u reclass the half ass way

[snow scarab]

iirc no

national guard has an infantry q school in hawaii iirc

[coarse laurel]

i was gonna say, hit me up if you go to benning

[snow scarab]

i mean i'll try. istg if i get thrown in to a fucking OSUT class

cause i know thats the only way to reclass for 12B

[coarse laurel]

osut class isnt bad prior service bro

you get released at 15:00 and fuck off somewhere if u want

[snow scarab]

lmao true

[coarse laurel]

and have ur phone and your own room

[snow scarab]

its gonna hurt seeing them go over water shape charge

the only charge they teach in infantry AIT

and its the one that is the least useful

and uses way more resources too

[stuck hazel]

Almost always

[compact dagger]

Where are they going to that you can "volunteer" for deployment ?

Sadly in our military it's only when your BN gets chosen for deployment and then it's mandatory

[low fox]

tactical kitty

[tidal fiber]

[snow scarab]

great thing about being a reservist, you can volunteer for any deployment as long as there is a slot for your job needed, you meet the requirements, and you don’t have anything flagged

[compact dagger]

Damn, wish it was like that here

but then again, we barely get any deployments except KV

which is meh

Basically summer camp mixed with a shitload of going to gym

[low fox]

wtf

lol#

[stuck hazel]

shit you not in a call with active russian infantry and shit you not hes using a boafeng and an SSH helmet

and earmore M32s

[left flax]

Sure he's not dpr or some shit

[stuck hazel]

No definitely russian

I recorded it all so you can confirm

If you really want

[left flax]

Nawh

[fickle bison]

gotta do with whatchu have

[stuck hazel]

He’s pretty squared away with it tbh

He’s going to make his SSH high cut

And put a team Wendy suspension system in it

Which is

Interesting

[snow scarab]

…

[granite tartan]

Team Wendy suspension fucks

[snow scarab]

you mean the steel russian army helmet from the 1940s

[granite tartan]

I need

[stuck hazel]

Yup.

[snow scarab]

how the fucj

that doesn’t even work

[stuck hazel]

He said it was better than the ratnik one

[granite tartan]

@snow scarab yo

[snow scarab]

probably not

the ratnik is basically just an ACH

[stuck hazel]

Yeah probably not but

[stuck hazel]

Beg to differ

[snow scarab]

what

[stuck hazel]

Massively

[snow scarab]

wdym?

it’s a kevlar based helmet

both are 3a

both are modernish helmets

although ACH going bye bye

[stuck hazel]

https://youtu.be/U-CRlKtZzPE

6b47 poo poo wee dog shit

[granite tartan]

X

I’ve used the Ratnik

The suspension is fucking awful

[stuck hazel]

Not so much

[snow scarab]

i mean the ACH padding sucks ass too

[granite tartan]

It’s not that bad

Pretty bad

But not that bad

[snow scarab]

no it sucks ass

especially when wearing it for 8+ hours at a time

creates so many hotspots on your head it’s insane

[granite tartan]

I’ve only worn it for a little bit

And it was missing most of its pads

[frigid geyser]

on a side note tho, I have a friend who works for a gear manufacturer in China. It's funny how they are receiving contracts from both the Russians and the Ukrainians for carriers and steel plates mainly via the same middleman lmao

and because the ukrainians had a smaller contract and only cared about quantity, those lot subcontracted the thing to another smaller shittier factory

[fickle bison]

Lord of war vibes

War is very profitable

[frigid geyser]

oh yeah

and especially for dji rn lmao

[snow scarab]

thats a big yikes also probably only half true

lots of our packages to ukraine have included SAPI plates

like in the hundreds of thousands

[frigid geyser]

well one thing is that, the demand is huge, considering ukraine is already at its 8th drafting

[snow scarab]

yes but america is really helping with them

[frigid geyser]

and guess you can't never have enough i suppose

[snow scarab]

true

[frigid geyser]

but yeah, that same manufacturer also got a extremely big contract from one of the big russian equipment manufacturer to provide the camo fabric and other equipment like sleeping bag

[snow scarab]

which explains why half of their shit is exactly that, shit.

[frigid geyser]

well it is the same fabric that get sends to the ukrainian and pretty much the same equipment

long live multicam i guess, no need to print different one eh

[snow scarab]

from what i've seen only russian spetsnaz use multicam

for the russians at least

[frigid geyser]

everyone and anyone use commercial gear in multicam by this point

on the field it is quite unregulated

but yeah anyhow, it's quite odd and shocking how many russian units had to call for crowdfunding to get some of the equipment like silencers, thermals etc or buy it themselves ngl

[prisma lintel]

Anyone know how to get good detailed maps? Canada

[low fox]

That me

[verbal karma]

God this drone is trash

Definitely gonna have to pretend to like it when family asks and just buy myself a Mini 2

[echo jay]

oxide

[stuck hazel]

😐

[sturdy hound]

Hello Everyone!
Does anyone know where to find and order theese pouches?

[verbal karma]

Probably Grey-Shop

They usually have the vatnik trash gear at “reasonable” prices

[ancient grail]

Greyshop doesn't stock sso anymore lol

[verbal karma]

Idk I don’t really pay attention to Russian gear

[left flax]

Nobody does

[stuck hazel]

Oh nooooo

Ohhhhhh what am I going to do without my ruski kit

😐

[naive maple]

stop collecting items to replicate a "loadout" and start buying gear you need

you cringe airsofters

[left flax]

Cry harder nerd

[naive maple]

[ancient grail]

No

I like to play dress up

[left flax]

"B...but you don't need it"

[misty mango]

its not a matter of need

also i aint need none of the shit i got
i live in the UK

not syria

[left flax]

Or the US

[misty mango]

tbf if i lived in the US i would rather have it

just because haha funny flat range larp

[left flax]

You have to be severely overweight to complete the larp though

[misty mango]

(im not overweight)

cant larp as an American

[left flax]

Bound to be British

[misty mango]

forever bound to this shithole

heartbreaking

[ancient grail]

The real crime is being British

[left flax]

For Realsies

[misty mango]

on god

(get me out of here)

[left flax]

Suffer

[coarse laurel]

Lol couldn’t be me

Another reason why I like this job is how I can wear my work stuff for airsoft

All I need to do is switch my real mags with airsoft ones

Plus training value

Best way to test gear setups as well, I hate trying new shit when I’m doing the real thing

[snow scarab]

this tho. best thing about airsoft is training in kit

[granite tartan]

Or just train in kit

[snow scarab]

this is less expensive than a range visit

[granite tartan]

Sounds like a skill issue

[left flax]

Imagine not training in kit

[fickle bison]

Imagine caring about what other people spend with their money

[low fox]

Imagine having bad grammar.

[fickle bison]

Imagine not having English as your first language

[left flax]

no such thing. everybody speaks english as a first language

[granite tartan]

Imagine having bad gear

[snow scarab]

ong

[storm peak]

Dog wtf even is that kit?

[left flax]

idk use your eyes

[low fox]

Straight up 😂

[left flax]

[snow scarab]

don't even have a pew

i've never had one lol

[timber fog]

“Need” lol

You don’t have to be paranoid about whatever imaginary conflict of the week just to play army man

[plush magnet]

Dollar store cosplay is done

[sturdy hound]

So basicly waiting till all this is over

[misty mango]

look on ukrabian ebay

[small kiln]

slava ukrabe

[low fox]

Burned

[reef trout]

Hey I have some questions for NV nerds I know Polyester and Nylon are pretty bad under IR but would a 80-20 cotton poly blend fair well? I'm looking at modern hunting clothes and researching their NIR compliance, I know things like Real Tree are compliant but they are 100% cotton most of the time but I was looking at brands like UA and Sitka which are significantly nicer feel wise and good for hunting but UA uses 80-20 Blend and Sitka uses Brushed Polyester Gortex Laminates

It would primarily be used for hunting but I am just curious how well 80-20 fairs against NIR

As a stop gap between normal clothes and high end base layers for NIR compliance

[spiral kernel]

A

[floral sphinx]

what's more comfortable, a hip holster or a leg holster?

[naive maple]

Drop leg holsters are floppy and bump into everything

Use a belt holster with a drop attachment

At most a single leg loop for the belt holster

[cinder stream]

Face those Glock mags the other way, way easier to grab and manipulate for reloads

[harsh flint]

Noted

I want to minimize the belt but fucking plates and carriers are so goddamn expensive

[storm peak]

I like drop holsters because I'm short and it gives me more space between the plates and the handgun

[misty mango]

midride superior holster hight
change my mind

[granite tartan]

My spine hurts looking at this

[granite tartan]

Based

[granite tartan]

How short is short,

And how do you have issues I’m curious

[misty mango]

cant be too short lmao
like jesus
im tiny and a hip holster works for me with a plate carrier
i just hate the draw

[reef trout]

I like Low to Mid Ride belt holsters to clear armor

I have a Low Ride Ragnarok Holster for my 320

[granite tartan]

Fucking 320

[naive maple]

a fucking trenchcoat

1999 called, it wants schoolshootercore back

[snow scarab]

@storm peak you ever seen a team guy use a bump helmet?

[storm peak]

Ye during conus training, is rare tho as those are personally paid

[snow scarab]

what about outside the wire?

or on a deployment in general

[storm peak]

It's either baseball cap or opscore

[snow scarab]

ok. some dude posted a picture of a "devgru" guy. guy is skinny as fuck, has a block 2 m4, a full size can, along with no battery pack lol

[misty mango]

yeah nah
thags a LARPer

bros built like a twig

Also PRC on the outside of the cummerbund?

especially when inside it is far superior

and less of a snag hazard

doesn't sag either

got quads with no batterypack

[storm peak]

It's a larper, not mk18 handguard, is in the gym in full kit, blurs out a flag on kit?, not a la5/la6 - shits plastic, nvgs are single tube

[storm peak]

I keep my 152 on the outside

[snow scarab]

it’s a fake quad

[misty mango]

figured when no battery

[storm peak]

Also not a surefire can?

[misty mango]

i honestly prefer it to be inside when its on the front

and im sure a lot of others do

[storm peak]

I havnt seen any contract can that's not fde/tan

[misty mango]

from what ive seen

[storm peak]

I have to keep it on the outside next to my mags as I have another thing that takes up a radio pouch

[misty mango]

also homeboy got no kneepads or first line gear on before everything else

[storm peak]

Who wears kneepads?

[misty mango]

crye g3's

[storm peak]

Idk if you seen but the Patagonia pads are useless

[misty mango]

their integrated ones

theyre nice to have

[storm peak]

Those are Patagonia pants

I wear them shits all the time

[misty mango]

dont devgru run g3's

[misty mango]

i aint very versed in pantagonia stuff

so my bad there

[storm peak]

Either way it's a larper, la5 is plastic

[granite tartan]

Patagonia is based

[snow scarab]

i wish they sold to civilians

[storm peak]

Pcu top is gross

[snow scarab]

i've heard great things about their bottoms

[storm peak]

They make them extra large for your size, the bottom of my top goes to 75% down my thigh

[snow scarab]

i honestly really like the ACS

whoever tf makes those

[storm peak]

I miss ucp

[snow scarab]

bruh

it wont let me say FR

cause of the r word

[storm peak]

Yall want to talk about comfy those johns be literal pajamas

[snow scarab]

the hot weathers are nice

[storm peak]

Much more comfy than my pcu pants

[snow scarab]

although the old PTUs were way more warm

[storm peak]

Gray apfus were the bees knees as well

Miss the turtle neck

[snow scarab]

this is what he had to say lmfao

told him literally everything everyone pointed out wrong

not to mention, how many team guys are so skinny that rolled up sleeves are loose?

[storm peak]

You can tell it's pcu by the front pocket and how the knee pad slots have four holes in them

[misty mango]

"hes devgru"

"hes a seal"

fucking dumbass

[storm peak]

If you take a look at the picture of Mr seal, the la5 is missing a button, ir Elevation adjustment, warning labels, and an ir bulb

Picture is a real la5

[night rock]

looks like I'd buy that off of some sketchy flea market vendor down the road

[misty mango]

amazon peq moment

[storm peak]

The pants or the la5? The la5 I sent be the one off my service rifle

[snow scarab]

bro he still fighting

said seals use black suppressors lmfao

[night rock]

my bad man

[snow scarab]

he says he has "an extremely reliable source" while also saying those are crye pants and that socom mainly uses black suppressors

[granite tartan]

I need an ngal

[snow scarab]

BAHAHA

he says his source is a guy that used be in devgru gold

[night rock]

ask him how many book deals he's got

[snow scarab]

apparently pictures from someone in gold squadron

[misty mango]

KEK

[snow scarab]

oh no so apparently it’s the SON of a ST6 guy

who is like 14

but apparently he knows absolutely everything his father used overseas

definitely not a breach of OPSEC

[storm peak]

?? Wtf are those weapons

[snow scarab]

the one in the first and the right one in the second is a 416

[storm peak]

Let alone wtf are those radios

Since when do la5s and la6s come with tan screws and battery caps?

Neither one of those rifles have flashlights

You know what @snow scarab ask the kiddo where his dad is deployed to and dm me the answer

[snow scarab]

he is apparently some high end retired seal who has a training course

[storm peak]

Oh? So he's a civilian using civilian shit

Kit doesn't have an atak phone mount

[snow scarab]

apparently that is from his time in

not to mention its a seal using an AVS

when most often ST6 used LBT

[snow scarab]

he won't share his name lmfao

for "privacy reasons"

[stuck hazel]

that looks very airshit

the main thing telling me its not is the helmet cam

because thats very very expensive for an airshitter

especially if its the IR version

[misty mango]

the mohoc

[stuck hazel]

Also, side plates

[misty mango]

i know a guy that runs one for airshit

[misty mango]

impression

[stuck hazel]

very gucci for airshit

[misty mango]

aye

but makes an awesome angle

[stuck hazel]

absolutely

[stuck hazel]

yeah but idk

[misty mango]

ill send you his vid in dms

[stuck hazel]

obs larpers do that shit but eh

im trying to find justifications

looking at the magazines is the main thing that makes me think the guns are airshit

[misty mango]

hex mags

also them "rounds" in that windowed mag look very orange

[stuck hazel]

yeah exactly

the mag in the 416 looks like a way too short "30 rnd" m4 mag

my airshit Pmags are all like that

[storm peak]

Patagonia pants but using a fake radio

[snow scarab]

so the first picture is apparently the son, the first one i sent

[storm peak]

Pcus were 2012-now, falcon series radios were out by then

Both stories are fake

All airshit

[snow scarab]

@storm peak apparently its slayderaider

that is his father

and it does work out

[reef trout]

It's for my formal wear, I wear suits and blazers every other day lol

I just got essentially a full body thermal suit with a balaclava for work and some station 3 gloves which I like so far.

[storm peak]

? Who's that

[snow scarab]

idk, look him up on instagram

something slade

[snow scarab]

slade cutter is his name

[storm peak]

I don't have instagram but I'm curious about how many books that dude has written about "my time in the military"

[stuck hazel]

That took those pics?

[snow scarab]

yeah

[stuck hazel]

Well

He is skinny guy for a seal

And he does have kids

And they do like mil gear

And he was ST6

[snow scarab]

he himself is decently built

[stuck hazel]

But nah I don’t think it is

[stuck hazel]

But he’s not huge

[snow scarab]

i mean the kid is his kid

[stuck hazel]

That’s not him in that pic

[snow scarab]

mikey

thats the one giving all the info to the guy that was arguing

[snow scarab]

no its his son mikey

[stuck hazel]

Yeah that makes sense

Kids only like 14

[snow scarab]

yeah

[stuck hazel]

Well it makes sense

[snow scarab]

anybody got any recommendations on heavier chest rigs? 4 mags plus, with the ability to attach via buckles on a plate carrier

[storm peak]

I don't see it

All of this pics are all over the internet

[snow scarab]

i mean the kid claims that is him in the picture and one of the guys in that server knows him irl

but i still doubt the fact he would talk that type of shit. does the navy use AAC suppressors on HKs?

[storm peak]

They might of in the past in early gwot, surefire has the contract now

[storm peak]

Considering that I was able to google all of those images tells me the kids lyin

[swift rose]

I don't have much experience with them but I've heard a lot of good things about the mayflower chest rigs

[snow scarab]

which ones specifically? that way i can call him out lol

i love conflict

[swift rose]

4 mags, swiftclip etc

[storm peak]

https://thereptilehouseblog.com/2020/02/10/nismos-slayderaider-style-devgru-hk416-ptw/?shared=email&msg=fail

[snow scarab]

lmao

[storm peak]

Some of the pics were pulled directly from slayderaiders instagram

Even says so in the blog

[snow scarab]

might get the gen 4 UW chest rig

209 dollars, up to 6 mags if i use the GP pouches

[whole vault]

slade cutrer is a former employee of GBRS Group and a former coworker of DJ Shipley (DEVGRU). he did serve in Gold Squadron. not sure about him having a son but I have seen a scrawny kid lurking in the background in their videos

[snow scarab]

he has 4 kids

[whole vault]

https://youtu.be/d_og6KlkSCM?t=12

[timber fog]

Been thinking about getting one of these too

Pretty much a toss up between that or a d3crh

[verbal karma]

I like my Mayflower

[verbal karma]

Here’s some very old pics of the first real test I put it through

Probably 5 years ago

[stuck hazel]

I mean slade is very much no longer a seal

[stuck hazel]

Definitely has a son.

[stuck hazel]

LBT

[snow scarab]

what’s the name of the rig?

[low fox]

Mayflower has some really good ones

[sudden depot]

Rate the setup

[burnt tulip]

based

is that a NVA helmet?

[stuck hazel]

https://lbtinc.com/products/1961a

budget? no

drip? absolutely

[low fox]

https://www.velsyst.com/products/uw-chest-rig-gen-iv

Same deal. Budget nope. But drip yes.

[stuck hazel]

LBT>

[snow scarab]

that’s the one i’m looking at anyways

might build a different carrier for army shit that’s more heavy duty

[zinc jetty]

pls tarkov add this with a mount so i can run 3 of them on a shotgun with ap20 and miss every shot because im blind

[snow scarab]

ok bruh, you completely missed the point of what i asked lol

[misty mango]

best 2 IMO would be either the haley strategic d3crx or the mayflower UW gen 4 for what you want

[snow scarab]

they are around the same price but i think i’ll get the mayflower

[verbal karma]

Just ordered some of these because my Cryes are too big

Downside of going from XLR to MR in like three months

[granite tartan]

Fuck no

Mayflower on top

[snow scarab]

the haley is nice af, but not what i want

[verbal karma]

HSP is high speed larp kit

The average HSP chest rig enjoyer:

but it's actually a man who just looks like this

[ancient grail]

I love hsp chest rigs (I look like that)

[verbal karma]

Sure you do

[cedar needle]

Based

[stuck hazel]

I didnt read the buckles bit

sorry pal

[final panther]

Nikita
When?

[left flax]

what even is tha

[long garnet]

just a 20mm galil, no big deal

[urban cove]

I know I’m late, but yes AAC did have a contract with the navy in the past. There’s a podcast with GBRS and Kevin from Q where they talk about it

[final panther]

12.7x108 machinegun

[left flax]

oooft

[burnt tulip]

the AK-50 is real

[final panther]

Can we get much higher? So high

[silk halo]

This looks familiar

Laser tag larp

[granite tartan]

Cool kit

P320 tho 😭

[silk halo]

M17

[granite tartan]

Same thing

[silk halo]

Tiger valley kit

[silk halo]

Factually not, mechanical differences from 320 esp in slide

[granite tartan]

Lots of cope

For a sub par firearm

[silk halo]

Facts

[snow scarab]

what rig is that? first spear?

also m17 isn’t that bad

literally fired it for qual on friday, pretty damn easy and nice

[granite tartan]

It’s pretty bad

[snow scarab]

no it’s not

for a combat handgun it’s pretty damn good

[granite tartan]

Besides it going off I. Peoples holsters

Reliability issues

[snow scarab]

that’s the 320

not the m17

[granite tartan]

And the safety causing it lose a drop safety rating

[snow scarab]

m17 has a safety

i’ve never had any problems

[granite tartan]

The safety wears a part down

Making it not drop safe

It’s cringe

It’s like after 3k rounds

Us army armorer report

[silk halo]

Never used the safety… and yes on that trip I had a catastrophic failure, dirt got into the fire control group and gave me a dead trigger, had to use a air compressor to clean it out… 5/10 meh pistol

[granite tartan]

Wet fart of handgun

[silk halo]

crye LV-mbav with tubes modded JTAC cumberbunds
3 placards i swap between.
on the AXL AVP with ferro admin pouch:
custom spiritus mk4 with high zip admin pouh, tq sleeves on sides and tubes conversion.
Full 9 gear AmmoHub (for when i dont need the extra admin pouch and want single mag thickness.

for a more slick config:
Unobtainum Gear Sleds placard with minor mods

on carrier IFAK is the ferro mini dangler with a TT insert. Insert can also can used in one of the cumberbund radio/mag pouches if the dangler isnt on the menu for the day.

Axl shoulder pads not pictured but used when not wearing a ruck..

USGI Taps not pictured but on hand to run over the sleds placard if i need a full chest rig

Pardon the potato pic

[granite tartan]

Mbaaav

[snow scarab]

nice. the dangler is your only IFAK?

or is your main i should say?

[silk halo]

I have a first spear small gp on my belt as an bare essentials ifak, ferro dangler has all the same stuff and more and is my primary ifak

[snow scarab]

ah ok. good man

what country you in?

[silk halo]

Opsec homie

[snow scarab]

didn’t realize it was military related lol

[silk halo]

But I’ll let you guess my organization from the giant American flag on my kit

[snow scarab]

army goes hard

[snow scarab]

this picture though, that looks like the velocity UW lV

couldn’t tell if it was one of the ones you mentioned that just looks similar to it

[silk halo]

Yes, old setup with an arbor arms plate carrier

[snow scarab]

ah ok

love it when people keep flexing on me with their fucking IHPS and MSVs. fuck em 😂

[verbal karma]

YOOOOOO

What’s up homie

Been a while

[silk halo]

Been busy… traveling

[silk halo]

MSV is the definition of a failed abortion

[snow scarab]

it’s much better than IOTV tho

still gonna use my SPC or build out an AVS

[silk halo]

AVS is much better

[snow scarab]

yeah. i’ll probably build one out next year once i have my first kit done

then imma build a kit strictly for work

[silk halo]

Options exist just make sure your within unit sop and have apropriate scalability.. i settled on a modded put LV-MBAV bc i hard a unique use case that requires full wrap soft armor, scalability from concealable to full overt and didn’t want to pack 2x setups like most of my dudes

[snow scarab]

ah ok

when i change units i’m definitely asking about it

[silk halo]

Avs is to bulky for my application

[snow scarab]

i’m switching from 12b to 11b so

the bulk isn’t that big of a deal

being forced to i might add. not cause i want to

[silk halo]

Avs is a great option as it has a very prominent NSN, and the AXL Advanced mini harness kit + cumberbund is incredible… if I didn’t need the absolute slickest/ snag free carrier for my mission set I would be running that without hesitation

[verbal karma]

I’m finally ordering armor

Ordered some RMA plates and looking around at different ballistic helmets

Toying with high cut vs full cut

Like TNVC has some Galvion high cut in stock

But if I go full cut RMA has Avon full cut in stock

[silk halo]

I would go high cut… but pm me I have both of you want to play with them

[snow scarab]

go with a high cut. low cut sucks after a while, especially if it’s not cut properly for use with something like comtacs

[verbal karma]

Aight

Galvion it is

Or it looks like a few still have the TBH mission configurable helmet

We’ll see which I want to get when the time comes

Anyone other than HHV and Mtek make an mlok arc style rail?

The Mlek doesn’t work on high cut helmets and HHV doesn’t sell their rail by itself

[snow scarab]

HHV helmets are actually OK now

not first choice

but a decent choice

[verbal karma]

I may just get one of them then

[snow scarab]

couple of buddies have tested them and they’ve all been 3a

[verbal karma]

Only like $500

Yea they publish all their testing data directly on their site

I already have mark kit for my bump helmets

And with using them I like the mlok one better

I can direct mount more things without a specific arc adapter

[snow scarab]

i’m gonna get comtacs first and then look at the helmets

[verbal karma]

I have comtac hearing defenders

[snow scarab]

yeah i want comms ability

[verbal karma]

So on mine you actually can

They’re regular comtacs

They just don’t come with the mic/downlead

But you can do what I do

Buy the 3.5mm downlead cable separately and pop it into your radio’s speakermic

The ones I have are kinda hard to find now

Peltor doesn’t make them anymore

[stuck hazel]

Cant say I recommend mlok style helmet rails

I took mine off my mtek

[stuck hazel]

Very comedic

Nice knife btw

[verbal karma]

I’ve used mine for a while

Like 2+ years or so

I like them

More positive than the arc and more able to add stuff I need

[silk halo]

tbh

arc rails are better

team wendy also makes a decent ballistic

but i would save up for a nice ballistic helmet and run the bump until then

[snow scarab]

personal opscore? or you a high speed?

[silk halo]

TBHIIIA

medium speed

[snow scarab]

ah

[silk halo]

do some cool stuff, but not cool enough for gucci gear

they used unit funds to buy us Condor carriers...

[snow scarab]

💀

it’s army strong not army smart for a reason

[silk halo]

basicly

[snow scarab]

my unit only allows NCOs to use non issued gear

but the unit i’m going to dgaf as long as it’s multicam and not cheap shit

[silk halo]

we have a very... permissive SOP

however NCO's do get to veto dudes gear if its bad

[snow scarab]

i mean my SPC is set up more than half of my units IOTVs so

i just need SAPI size plates and i’m gucci

currently using 1155s

[silk halo]

issued plates homie

for training just use whatever... even non ballistics if your not issued plates

[snow scarab]

oh yeah you don’t know

[silk halo]

but do get soft armor backers

[snow scarab]

i’m NG

so poor unit

[silk halo]

and

[snow scarab]

not issued plates

[misty mango]

[silk halo]

most units aren't or have deadlined 'training' plates

[snow scarab]

and i honestly don’t really like soft backers. although i do use Kevlar in my side plate pockets

[silk halo]

soft armor backers are required bc most versions of the esapi is not stand alone rated

[snow scarab]

and then i’m going to combo it once i get actual side plates

[silk halo]

get good backers... mine are .19 inches thick

[snow scarab]

then what are they gonna do with the MSV?

the msv doesn’t issue with kevlar

at least that i know of

[silk halo]

mbav sfot armor front and rear, cumberbunds are 6x9 soft armor

yes it does

[snow scarab]

oh ok

[silk halo]

sapi shaped backers + C bund

[snow scarab]

ah

is it built into the cummerbund? or pockets

[silk halo]

im pretty sure they are good backers to based on the manufacturer of the soft armor

pockets

[snow scarab]

huh ok. good to know

the 1155s are stand-alone rated and overbuilt. just wish they came in SAPI sizes

[silk halo]

rma does have a sapi size version i believe

[snow scarab]

yeah their lightweights

i just don’t have the money to spend 1200 on plates right now lol

[silk halo]

armor is pricy

[snow scarab]

yes, but RMA gets it out for a really good price. and if people complain about weight, they don’t do weight training enough lol

[left flax]

Shut up blud

[left flax]

No price too high for life saving protection

[silk halo]

rma 1092 is the plate you want

300 per plate

NIJ RF2

5.6 lb in a medium 1 inch thick

[silk halo]

heavy armor is very not bueno

hesco m210 is another good budget friendly plate that is also lighter and thinner 5.0 lbs and .61inches

[snow scarab]

how much are those?

[snow scarab]

yes but i like lvl 4 plates

[silk halo]

y

[snow scarab]

also i’ve worn these plates for 12 hours straight in this SPC with no additional pads and it’s fine

[snow scarab]

i’d rather have the option to stop it then not

[silk halo]

what threats are you potentially facing that lvl3+/rf2 wont stop?

[silk halo]

lighter and multicuvver plates are just comfier

you'll appreiate it when you go 11b

[snow scarab]

i mean i’m used to goin on scenic walks for long periods with more shot than 11bs do

40 lb crater go brrrrr

[stuck hazel]

https://www.uktactical.com/product/aku-pilgrim-gtx-combat-brown-16413

anyone got any info on these?

[silk halo]

i mean... i am going to make an assumption that your a junir soldier on thier first enlistment,

and that while you can carry more wieght, optimizing wieght lets you carry more mission gear.

[granite tartan]

You’re in the reserves dude lol

[snow scarab]

and?

[granite tartan]

Please tell me you’re not using amp arms

My beloved

[snow scarab]

i can still use better shit then an iotv

[granite tartan]

👀

Give me your age

Avs

[silk halo]

I am

[snow scarab]

what?

[silk halo]

with axl advanced adapteras

[snow scarab]

if i go infantry than i’m building an avs

if i have to do 19D then i’m getting a spiritus

[storm peak]

Bold of you to assume a leg inf unit will let you use non issue gear

Shits get so dumb in those units where they tell you exactly where to put everything on your kit so it's uniform with everybody

[granite tartan]

FUUUUUCk shhit why

3m>amp arms

[silk halo]

objectively better

[snow scarab]

i've worked with them before. the unit is pretty chill on stuff.

[silk halo]

have you used both

[silk halo]

if your mounted, get a nice low pro carrier thats good for sitting in/ crawling through hatches

[snow scarab]

the lv119 overt is pretty slim. used by another one of my buddies who is also a cav scout

[silk halo]

its a great carrier

was on my short list but i wanted/needed more soft armor coverage

[snow scarab]

ah

[modern bear]

Y'all like my new set up? Getting ready to hold the line against the french. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/988190147218653248/1041485076472528936/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_97586e5d-ac9e-495a-bf91-77bfd8c47360.jpg

[left flax]

Cringe/10

Overall, 79/100

[storm peak]

doxes himself

[covert tinsel]

I tried to get some pre owned winter gear today with my old man earlier at a surplus store and was met with this and felt like I was being dragged into the backrooms with the loud buzzing coming from the fluorescent lights

All I have is a ushanka for now

[silk halo]

Swap the mre stuff for a Plastic jar of peanut butter, much lighter and calorie dense

[silk halo]

Vortex monocular or Northrop Grumman compact ranging binos will save space and wieght and still give you ranging capabilities

[verbal karma]

Nah

I like it this way

[muted gate]

only thing i dislike is the ready mag lmao

[verbal karma]

Well

I enjoy it

[unborn prism]

boredom made me do DIY cat ears

[timber fog]

I’m sorry to hear that

[snow scarab]

you won’t tho

if you’re gonna keep something from an MRE, main meal

[verbal karma]

These are from MCW

I don’t have any MRE mains

I also wasn’t really interested in advice

[snow scarab]

well you’re getting it. tryna help improve your survival ability

[snow scarab]

hesco 4400s for 182. good price or no?

[buoyant urchin]

scrim

[verbal karma]

Now tie more scrim on it so it doesn’t just look like a lumpy helmet

[buoyant urchin]

indeed

[left flax]

This is our fast helmet, the lumpiest one we have

Very beautiful , very powerful

[misty mango]

but its a flux

[left flax]

Nerddd

[misty mango]

L

[verbal karma]

I mean

It’s a PTS

But

Next month I’m getting an AS200 high cut

[wispy lodge]

my condolences to that helmet

[fierce heart]

Now I'm scav

[stuck hazel]

Now you are dead to me

[fierce heart]

Opachki

[granite tartan]

This chat gets better and better every day

[stuck hazel]

At least It’s fucking consistent

[covert tinsel]

How lindo un gato

[timber fog]

Welcome to the internet

[verbal karma]

Would you like to build a bomb?

[timber fog]

Mom says I’m not allowed

[covert tinsel]

Easy there furry

[verbal karma]

Yikes

I ain’t no furry

I have a big ass can of JP8 and a zippo for any furries I meet though

[covert tinsel]

“If they can afford a million dollar fursuit, they can afford a pipe bomb in my mailbox.”

[misty mango]

a million dollars???

bruh
they go for 1k+ normally

[covert tinsel]

Depends on the specifics

[misty mango]

well yeah
but ypu sure as shit aint paying 1 mil for one

[covert tinsel]

There are suspiciously wealthy ones out there that would

[alpine wasp]

rolls royce of fursuits 😼

[misty mango]

you get the suspiciously weathly ones
then you get the constantly broke ones

[covert tinsel]

Yup

[verbal karma]

Then there’s ones that seem suspiciously wealthy but are actually just incredibly financially irresponsible coomers who spend every cent not keeping a roof over their heads on porn

[misty mango]

and them

we dont talk about them

[verbal karma]

Because then you’d have to admit that it’s most furries

[misty mango]

i already know that

i already know how rough most of it is

and i hate it

i just like the cool people and the art

[covert tinsel]

Mood

Also you’d be surprised the amount of furries that are in the military

[misty mango]

and in very
very high up jobs

such as the one that helped create the coof vaccine

[stuck hazel]

💀

[misty mango]

wacky

[left flax]

Incorrect stereotype moment

[stuck hazel]

Incorrect opinion moment

[misty mango]

not an opinion but a fact

[left flax]

לא אכפת לי

[misty mango]

jew moment

[left flax]

Snjort

[misty mango]

that will be 2 shekels sir

[stuck hazel]

It’s not though is it

[misty mango]

it is

[stuck hazel]

It’s not

[timber fog]

It’s not a stereotype if it’s true

[plush topaz]

מה אחי

[grand walrus]

English please

[plush topaz]

Is ranger green considered a bait colour to wear in public or nah

[timber fog]

I’m sure any normal human will see it and think “military green” at most

[fickle bison]

wow dark green!

[timber fog]

But for geardos like us yes it’s bait and I see right thru your disguise fedboi

[plush topaz]

True

[coarse laurel]

Not really, it’s just green

[plush topaz]

Ah see. Differing opinions!

[coarse laurel]

It’s just clothes

Mofos run around in fur suits in public idk why that’s more acceptable than wearing OD green

[plush topaz]

Not so much acceptable. But rather in America, would draw attention where someone would say, "this guy is either armed or has* guns at home"

[muted gate]

cannoli, no one reads that deep

[plush topaz]

Good

[muted gate]

also, talk me out of getting an m3

I really want a Super 90 Benelli M3

[plush topaz]

You're broke stop it

[muted gate]

Im not broke, ive been just buying too many other thigns

[plush topaz]

So
... Broke

[muted gate]

no, im not broke

just my buffer for my buffer is gone

[plush topaz]

[timber fog]

Realistically nobody’s going to care except for maybe reddit operators and paranoid fudds, neither of which go into public anyways

[plush topaz]

[timber fog]

And anyone else who might see it and jump to that conclusion is probably on the same train anyways

[left flax]

Oh you are in unironically Israeli

Sadge

[plush topaz]

What does that even mean

[covert tinsel]

Ok since I don’t really have gear I will just toss books and media I’ve found

I have way too many books

My bad forgot the bookmark

[plush topaz]

Amazing

[covert tinsel]

I will admit that I have a slight problem with collecting books from the let’s say starting from 1915 to the 1990s

[plush topaz]

I don't think theres anything wrong with that

[odd cedar]

got the combat stimulants irl🔥

[covert tinsel]

Wait I completely forgot I have these somewhere in my storage

I was going to use them for a photography/film project final that sadly never happened

probably will use them for a future photography project

[unborn prism]

my cat ears adik hoodie setup
(i know my plate carrier is too low,)

[eager token]

Rdy for the russians

[unborn prism]

also i need to paint those cat ears on black to match the outfit

[misty mango]

why the front of your carrier just admin pouches and glowsticks

going prone will be awkward
and them glowsticks will glow if you go prone on hard ground

[unborn prism]

the answer is simple

my battle belt needs repair

so temporarily I carry pouches on carrier

therefore, this setup lacks dump pouch, sidearm holster, radio pouch, mini med pouch and some other shit

[misty mango]

cummerbund

[plush topaz]

This is exactly how you use AFG's lmao

[stuck hazel]

LBT on top, sent them three pictures of damages to my LBT daypack, already got a replacement on the way

[snow scarab]

@granite tartan all i need now is back panel and i’m gonna get a TRMP from haley to use along side the dangler

[spare minnow]

so that's how you do it

[spare minnow]

that looks awesome

[snow scarab]

still need a radio pouch

[empty sorrel]

What's the point of the empty side plate bags?

[snow scarab]

just don't have any as of rn. wasn't including future body armor purchases in that

[empty sorrel]

You can get some MS apps for pretty cheap those are nice and light

*msaps

[snow scarab]

i need side plates and im probably getting RMA 3+ plates

[empty sorrel]

How much do those weigh?

[snow scarab]

5 something iirc

lemme check

the main thing is getting SAPI sizing

[empty sorrel]

No for the sides

Msaps are 1.6 for sides

54r API rated

[snow scarab]

2.5 lol

[empty sorrel]

Oof

https://www.tacswap.com/post/6369ad8b71ad83000b2f22e2

They usually go for $150 to 200 a set

You see a lot of these ones, because they were issued as a set of five, but only really ever used with two

[snow scarab]

ill keep that in mind

putting most of my money towards my rifle tho

[empty sorrel]

I would have just went with standard surplus esapi though

For the main plate

You can occasionally find newer ones for very cheap

Which are better than just about anything you can get on the civilian market

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Placard is cringe

Shouldve got avs reee

[snow scarab]

trmp is better

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@snow scarab nah

Avs attachment is always superior

[snow scarab]

it literally has that

they make a version that is specifically using the crye attachment

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6094 gang

Just put everything on the rig itself no problem

[spare minnow]

got da red baofeng

i used to have one of those until someone stole mine

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It goes in a pouch so it's color doesn't matter much

[granite tartan]

Yet you didn’t use it

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I honestly just don't see the purpose of intentionally taking like 3/4 of the material out of your carrier

[snow scarab]

didn’t know if i wanted a trmp at first. but now that i have the dangler, i want something i can use with it more easily. but i can still use the placard alone if need be

[granite tartan]

Inside plate bag

[snow scarab]

what?

[snow scarab]

you’d know this, gen 4 and 5 ESAPIs are standalone right?

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Aesopy's aren't rated by number generations

They are by letter

*esapi

Well technically, the new ones are gen 3, but you won't be seeing those

In all of the testing I've seen, esappies have successfully stopped all the threats they are rated for without a backer, but with multiple hits they would eventually reach an unacceptable level of backface deformation without said backer.

[echo jay]

aesop fables plates

[snow scarab]

what plates do you have then?

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Gen V spear, current issue socom

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how much do those normally go for?

and what’s the difference?

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They are 4.6lb

And standalone

You won't find them

[snow scarab]

why not?

or hell if you know some place that sells them to MIL only

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They are current issue

And they are only issued to like four different divisions

[snow scarab]

don’t you have them as a civilian?

or are you mil too?

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Are you asking if I am in possession of stolen gov. Property?

[snow scarab]

not officially no

theoretically of course

if you actually had possession of them that is. cause that’s obviously photoshopped

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There are plenty of good civilian plates out there

Keep an eye on adept, they've up and coming, with impressive results so far.

https://www.adeptarmor.com/

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prolly just gonna do velocity

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Which ones

Aren't all theirs the old nij .04 standard?

[snow scarab]

i think so. but still amazing plates that not many can get

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I'd be hesitant

.04 doesn't call for any drop protection

[snow scarab]

their tbl2 plates

or the multi hit that come in desert marpat for some reason

although honestly the RMA RF2 plates be lookin might find

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.04 also doesn't include the temperature or water stress tests

The 1092v2 isn't bad

[snow scarab]

temperature isn’t a problem for me

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Not the fanciest you can buy though

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0 at the most

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If you can find relatively new ESAP plates, those will put you ahead of the RMA plates

[snow scarab]

well duh