irl-gear

[rough barn]

Got some stuff for my hideout

[hard sparrow]

i forgot the exact name but isnt that the holosun h510c or something on your rifle?? I've been considering getting one as I don't want a clunky sight, but still want something fairly large and decent, ive been thinking that or a h-2

[night latch]

anyone know what eotech this is, no night vision option and was made in 2008

[barren kettle]

looks like a 512

[night latch]

i figured it out, it is the 512 pre 2009

[jade mural]

yes it is the Halosun h510c, & its 100% worth, it has a motion turn on optic & it is rechargeable in the sun. I would recommend it to you for sure, its not huge and bulky, personally I think its perfect

[hard sparrow]

damn i didnt kno abt the rechargable part, thanks, definitely gonna get one of these soon

[jade mural]

hell yeah!, I would still recommend doing some research just in case

[hard sparrow]

im a high schooler, but i shoot with .45acp every now and then, i want to get a rifle when im old enough, and want to get good gear but not overly expensive gear that i dont have the skills to apply to, so thats why i was looking for something around this price rather than dumping money on a company like eotech or trijicon, but thanks for the info!

[jade mural]

absolutely, to be honest, & as a personal view, I think that eotech is garbage in all honesty, you are paying for brand, & trijicon makes really good pistol optics & longer range scopes, but you would have to go to a shop near you & play around with the stuff they have in their inventory, to figure out what you like, but the best advise I can give you is, "you get what you pay for"

Also, don't cheap out on the stuff you are going to rely on

[hard sparrow]

yeah, i want the generic rifle shit, mk18, maybe a bcm or magpul foregrip, surefire or silencerco suppressor, h510c, magpul ctr stock, and im not sure which pistol grip i want yet, but i think im going to want something straighter than like a stock a2, and then either a streamlight or a surefire light

i dont know much about the hobby but i figure i might start where all start to find a group that can help me out

[jade mural]

hell yeah man, good plan,

i would recommend a magpul pistol grip

[hard sparrow]

i was looking into those, thanks for the advice 🙂

[jade mural]

Anytime man!👍

[frozen ice]

512 eotech

[narrow plinth]

Goofy eotech

[low zodiac]

I own a ta31f, rmr type 2, and a eotech 512

They are all good but deadass, trij is more overpriced

For 1 power optics

A used, or like new eotech is drastically cheaper than what you see on the website

360$, like new

Came out off a display case at a gunshow

ACOGs used very frequently have the tritium either burnt out, or it’s noticeably more dim than new, but ig if you’re fine with that you can get great value out of them

And RMRs used are generally about 100$ more expensive

[jade mural]

I've owned trijicon & eotech products, & I think they work just fine & are great, but personally I just don't care for eotechs I think that they over price products that just aren't good for practical use & that's just my opinion , & I agree trijicon does make some over priced products, but some of there products are very good, you just have to know what you are buying in all honesty, you pay for what you get, but you have to do research for what works for you

[low zodiac]

It depends on what eotech product mainly

By no means is everything overpriced, their holo sights are fairly good about pricing

I’d agree if you meant their magnifiers tho

Vortex unironically makes better ones for cheaper

[jade mural]

100% percent

I dont think eotech stuff is all over priced but I do think alot of it is for their practical use

I think that their holo optics are mostly bulky & just isnt something that I care for,

see personally Ive never owned or handled eotechs magnifiers

vortex is decent, not my style but some are okay for price wise

[low zodiac]

My dad eotech-ed his virtus out

It’s the 5x magnifier

I don’t like it tbh

Super small eye box, and that’s coming from a acog user lol

[jade mural]

damn, you have a very nice setup

[jade mural]

lol;

[low zodiac]

Thank

[jade mural]

don't you think you light is a little close to your muzzle

[low zodiac]

it is

though it doesnt get dirty easily

and if it does, i can just wipe it off

i dont have a crazy brake on it or anything

and its gotta be there for my thumb to properly press the button

[jade mural]

oh makes sense just curious,

[flint hemlock]

Man that's the one I need too

[sand spear]

would NIJ level III+ plates be enough to stop .277 fury?

[cinder stream]

I don’t think so

[low zodiac]

@jade mural oddly enough tonight was the night I re did all the optics lol

So I have a good lineup

Not all are mine tho

if they where all mine I would be rich

[jade mural]

awesome man, you have a nice selection

Also, i have a question for you, do you ever think that your eotechs are bulky?

[low zodiac]

i mean, they are, but its not to the point where it matters

their housing is actually kinda good because its slick and doesnt have any lens caps, fits into bags easier

and doesnt have as many snag points as the acog does with the screws and piggyback rmr

got them all put back together

top 2 are mine

[barren kettle]

how do you like the 512?

is it comparable to an xps

[low zodiac]

It’s basically the same thing, though I would get one with a quick detach mount if you can

I like that it takes AA batteries

[low zodiac]

Oh also the buttons on the side are a little nicer on the XPS

Doesn’t interfere with the magnifier if you run one

[barren kettle]

makes sense, think i might get one for my aug

PSA has them for like $370 or somethin like that

[low zodiac]

i got mine for 360

[rough barn]

Anyone else collect NFA

[surreal pawn]

someone here was telling me about an online ammunition sales website but i cant remember which one it was anymore.

what do you guys recommend for 300 black out good cheap ammunition for target

(cheap is a relative term obviously per round will be more than your 9mm)

[frozen aurora]

AMMO SEEK

ALL YOU NEED

[surreal pawn]

thats the one

thank you i couldnt remember the name

all quality ammo on that site?

[frozen aurora]

ammo seek just list all the sites that are selling that type of ammo

so you just look thru it till you find some ammo you like

[surreal pawn]

gotcha

turns out my local reman is still cheaper somehow

20rnds 300blk for 11.99

sorry not reman they dont use used

[crystal iron]

Out of curiosity why have the grip so far forward?

[echo jay]

non femboy arms

[low zodiac]

A few reasons, but mainly because it allows me to actuate the tail cap on my light (which I prefer to pads), and it gives my arm plenty of range to extend outwards

it tires my arm out faster but it does feel way more stable when firing

[real sigil]

this is the based way of doing it

[low zodiac]

i bought a pad and still prefer the tailcap lol

[twin creek]

Does Airsoft gear count as real gear cause technically it is real

[low zodiac]

If it’s real shit ig

I used to have a airsoft rig

Was horrible

Nothing like a real one

[twin creek]

Well yeah it depends

Some Airsoft is bad quality

But could you even call 5.11 gear good quality

[real sigil]

it is compared to airsoft

quality is decent

its the design that fucks it

its made for cross fit

not actual combat

[hushed zenith]

rate the fit

[fierce haven]

Chamber it in .22 and you won’t have to worry about recoil

[crystal iron]

Gotcha. I was curious about that because having my arm way of there was always more tiring to me. Was just curious if there was just something I hadn't considered or if it was just personal preference

[crimson sparrow]

Skrr

On Woods

[buoyant seal]

Love the handguard on the third one

[low zodiac]

Bottom or top?

[misty mango]

bit gay

[low zodiac]

[ancient grail]

A wild kong grazing

[compact dagger]

I wish I could wear a balaclava

but poor eyesight gang

[vivid wing]

contacts my boy

[muted gate]

you can still wear one

[fickle bison]

Yeah how does having bad eye sight affect your ability to wear a balaclava?

[frail stirrup]

Isnt really gear but i bought a 50"s swedish field surgical kit with all the original stuff in it unused (Ofc)

[cinder stream]

Look for them morphine surettes and literal meth

[frail stirrup]

There wasnt any that was the first thing i looked for

[regal timber]

honestly thats the best fuckin response you could ever give 🤣

[coarse laurel]

Lol the balance is making me uneasy

I got one of those stands as a welcome gift when I PCS’d

It had my unit color, unit and platoon name on it

[compact dagger]

because having balaclava on my mouth redirects hot air to eyes and fogs up the glasses

[fickle bison]

u need better balaclava, u should be able to breath in and out almost with no issue

[compact dagger]

idk the ones i used to have had that problem

same with halfmasks

and i really want a halfmask during winter

so when we are driving buggies my face doesn't get frozen

[river hull]

@weary dune hat in time is mid

[weary dune]

initial d is mid beyond the one scene

[river hull]

"The one scene" a hat in time was only made popular because of one men

Meme

Plus high ranking mod on 2 discord servers = invalid opinion

[placid bison]

.

[mental wren]

Initial d is good when you don’t have a bitch in your ear telling you it’s not

[fickle bison]

Initial D is good till u realize that physics doesn't exist in it

[low fox]

b

[gritty burrow]

c

[nimble hinge]

d

[frail stirrup]

e

[bleak wasp]

f

[agile quartz]

g

[low fox]

you dress like a genuine weirdo

man an actual multicoomer

like unless youre hunting or playing airsoft or doing shit like training.. why do you wear that.......

💀

[ancient grail]

You unironically dress like that!?💀

[frozen aurora]

isnt that the one guy thats in Ukraine

[gritty burrow]

You bullied him into deleting his post

[misty mango]

skill issue

[gritty burrow]

agreed

[low fox]

Fr

I expected like a slightly annoyed response

Not that

[eternal shuttle]

😂😂 what was it

[glass pasture]

@gusty salmon

[gusty salmon]

😲👆

[misty mango]

ballin

[compact dagger]

damn i need to buy a warbelt

but can't justify spending over 100€ on it cuz salary will be delayed up to 15th

[cerulean plover]

[spare minnow]

incredibly jealous of that AT4

[tall aspen]

now i wanna know, what was it?

[ancient grail]

Ocp top, velcrod all the way, skull mask

Out in public

Walking his dog

[tall aspen]

what is an ocp top?

[misty mango]

that ugly ass grey camo

the grey digi shit the US army used

[tall aspen]

im not big on camo patterns

[tall aspen]

i see

[misty mango]

that only blended in with grandmas couch

oh wait nvm

i got mixed up

[tall aspen]

what kinda shirt has velcro on it?

[misty mango]

i thought ocp was ucp

my bad

[tall aspen]

i wouldnt know any better

[misty mango]

its just americas new multicam thing

[tall aspen]

skull mask to walk his dog? lmao

[fickle bison]

The guy was dressed head to toe in multicam walking in public like going to school or something

With a multicam neck gaiter

[tall aspen]

i understand some ppl wear like camo pants, but full set? lol

[snow scarab]

ucp not ocp\

[twin creek]

who is the mmac made by

[eternal shuttle]

Eagle Industries

[compact dagger]

where's the transportation/safety pin on that AT4 ?

cuz the one we used had it near the cheek rest

[low fox]

Nope OCP is multicam

the dude had a Multicam PCU,gaiter,hat etc in public lol

ACU/UCP is what youre thinking

[misty mango]

yeah i realised

got confused by it

[oak portal]

ulach face shields/mounts

[real sigil]

thats not a ulach

its just an ach

[oak portal]

tis very much so a ulach

[real sigil]

ulach is only the ach made by highcom

its whatever their take on it

but even the ulach is very much just an ach as well

[oak portal]

its highcom

[real sigil]

look its the ulach!

the original ach that the military used was made by gentex

highcom may or may not have been contracted to manufacture them, im not sure

but at the end of the day, its not called a ulach

its just an ach

or ech for the high threat version

[fickle bison]

@real sigil might wanna be careful with that wojak post. Got warned 2nd time for posting memes apparently

Admins/mods here don't like memes

[real sigil]

i live on the edge

its ok

[oak portal]

well that depends on if its ultra-lightweigh or not

because if it is then its a ULACH

LOL

[potent yacht]

cant have shit

[oak portal]

dw i saw it for a split second

[potent yacht]

good

[real sigil]

that said face shields are stupid

its a niche item

which only a handful of end users need

[oak portal]

i mean yes, but nvgs/headlamps on the rails would be noice

[real sigil]

i mean thats why the ach was outfitted with shrouds and arch rails

us govt couldnt spend on new helmets

decided to retrofit currect ach helmets

[oak portal]

Nikita must add to gaym

[oak portal]

cant spend on new helms but can create an entire new bullet caliber for a more expensive standard issue gun

[real sigil]

only because the current gun could no do it

same thing with current helmets

government wants to drop ach helmets so normal soldiers can use over ear coms

[snow scarab]

really isn’t much of a difference. just a little lighter.

[real sigil]

gentex ach probably better protection too

ech helmets were known to be way above what they were rated for

the bfd would probably still kill you, but it could stop m80

[snow scarab]

i’ve never seen an ECH stop anything above 3a personally unless it was glancing. we tested a couple different rounds on one

only glancing shots didn’t penetrate

[real sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH9ddMb83-U

i mean

i seen this

seems pretty impressive

[timber fog]

I don’t see the point of owning a helmet as a civilian

[misty mango]

night vision and comms all in one

if you get a high cut that is

[timber fog]

Good point

[misty mango]

nvg skull crushers are ass

[timber fog]

I was thinking more from a protective standpoint

But that’s a very good point

[misty mango]

i always stand by
its better to have and not need

than to need and not have

there may be time when you need that protection

my concern for a helmet would be indoors

dont want to get all your shit to fight indoors only for one shot to hit your dome

[fickle bison]

It adds an extra couple percentage to your life expectancy rate.

[misty mango]

when outside in the woods and shit id say its not always necessary

[fickle bison]

Also if u fall to the ground or off a vehicle you wouldn't crack your skull

[timber fog]

Also another really good point I wasn’t thinking of before

[timber fog]

I mean, I understand this sentiment

[fickle bison]

That's why ppl buy bump helmets. They're the same as a ballastic without the whole ballistic protection

[timber fog]

And always agree with this one

You guys have opened my eyes

[real sigil]

bump helmets are practical

i guess if you are prepper or something like that a ballistic helmet is still applicable

[fickle bison]

Doomers and shtf consooomers

[snow scarab]

you can do that with ACH cuts too

[misty mango]

i mean like
comms mounted to helmet

on the rails

high cuts specialise in that

[snow scarab]

well yeah

[real sigil]

who says you can't get helmet mounted comms on an ach

[misty mango]

how tf does one mount RAC's to and ACH bruh

[snow scarab]

what the actual fuck

that is disgusting

i wanna do it

[real sigil]

nah

this is steezy

i wanna do it too

[fickle bison]

Looks super uncomfortable

[real sigil]

nah its super comfy

cause you know you look this steezy when you look like that

noting more comfy than that

[fickle bison]

It looks steezy, but those headphones looks way too big

[real sigil]

nah

nothing else matters

when it looks steezy

[wispy swan]

my packing is so shit

idk if it’s because I have too much stuff or because This pouch is awful

I don’t want the seams to bust so any advice is appreciated

[snow scarab]

what’s a list of everything you have in it?

[wispy swan]

It’s got a cat tourniquet, a swat-t tourniquet, trauma shears, an Israeli bandage, two Hyfin vent chest seals, a pharyngeal tube, a Mylar solar blanket, an instant ice pack, gauze pads, guaze, cloth bandages, paper tape, self adhesive tape, waterproof tape, guaze tape, iodine swabs, ibuprofen, benadryl, moleskin padding, 60+ various bandaid sizes, micro tweezer set, hemostats, and reinforced adhesive skin closures

I’ve also got a resqme on the way

meant for civ use but I live in Chicago so yea

Ima do a dump in a bit when I get home @snow scarab

[dreamy panther]

by pharyngeal tube do you mean an NPA? you can probably ditch that if you don't have training. even if you do, can't imagine a need for it prior to EMS arrival

probably dont need 4 different kinds of tape either

[wispy swan]

ahh ok. I’m supposed to get training this summer

I’ll keep it though because I’m also supposed to be bringing it on my hiking/boating outings

I’m not gonna do a unpack until I get everything delivered

[haughty light]

Where should I go to find the IRL equivalent of the BEAR Ghost marksman hood thingy

[misty mango]

just google viper hood

[haughty light]

Did not know that's what it was called

Thanks

[misty mango]

np

theyre extremely drippy

[low fox]

not sure how comfy this would be lol

seems doable though

[real sigil]

very

cause you look insane

i would be comfy knowing i look that cracked

also nice headset

[low fox]

people are going to question your helmet setup for sure lol

[real sigil]

amp gang

[low fox]

amps are very nice

[real sigil]

indeed

[low fox]

got a set of amps and comtac 5’s

[real sigil]

i had some comtact 3s b4

they were pretty nice

[low fox]

they are yeah, i prefer comtacs as my go to headset

[real sigil]

havent tried the new comtacs

the 7s look good

[low fox]

they’re honestly small incremental improvements, little out of my price range, but still something i’d wanna get one day

[real sigil]

can you even buy them yet?

[low fox]

i don't think so, but they'd probably be more expensive than the 6's so uhh, kinda pricey

[compact dagger]

whats that thing on the rail ?

[night rock]

portable doorstopper

[compact dagger]

idk i use my helmet as a doorstop

idk why you'd need attachable one

[snow scarab]

ew side plates. love not being able to put my arms down

[winter kiln]

anyone happen to know what model this is? found it in a flea market in the netherlands

[grave egret]

i can put my arms down just fine

[snow scarab]

yes, at a 20 degree angle. plus it’s just extra weight, no need for it

[spare minnow]

oo fuckin rah, man

[grave egret]

If your still in, think about using your own flak that’s what I did some time ago and I love it

[spare minnow]

I was never in LOL

I'm 14

[grave egret]

😂

[spare minnow]

I might join the Marines though

[compact dagger]

Love my helmet

Brain too big, broke the straps

[snow scarab]

i use a banshee 2.0, love that shit

[grave egret]

thats what i got @snow scarab

[solar wren]

I want a plate carrier but I am broke is this combination good for the price

[gaunt pagoda]

where can I buy a real Gorka 3?

[solar wren]

Idk looked like a pretty good deal from the minimal research I have done

With full price

[thorn aurora]

When u get hit and dragged out they are gonna grab ur shoulder straps on ur flak, keep ur tq there bc after I throw ur ass off the X i can grab ur tq. A tq on ur back is dumb as fuck no one is going to role you over unless they need to.

[solar wren]

Roughly how much do you think they plate carrier cost

I am trying to get in to preparedness tactical thing

And want to know what companies to buy from or stay away from

Is there like a discord server or smth that I should join for assistance /help

[crystal gyro]

I have that exact setup and I really like it. Not my first setup, but by far my best, but I am just a civvy. I ran it through 3 days of WPS training and it was great. I got the 3 mag placard for the front of it as well.

[snow scarab]

personally, trex arms is eh from what i’ve heard. shellback rampage plate carriers are nice and around the same price. also no need for plate backers if you have ceramics most of the time

[limpid nimbus]

http://www.bulletproofme.com/RP-Level-4-Stand-Alone.html#Lightweight

I run the 160 per plate ones

[low fox]

google "Ghost sniper coat A-TACS FG"

Is that what you meant?

[gaunt pagoda]

im talking about these, but I dont know whats a real genuine Gorka made in russia or a copy of

[low fox]

Ah, i wouldn't know where to get a genuine one

Sorry

[gaunt pagoda]

might have to make a trip to Russia some day than

[fickle bison]

Looks for one made by artic leopard

Or BARS

Do not order from greyshop. Take a look at russiancold camo's website. It's a bit expensive because it's shipped within the states

@gaunt pagoda https://russiancoldcamo.com/collections/gorka-suits

[ancient grail]

Don't order from greyshop if you want an authentic one go to zuta or demych

Greyshop gorkas are alright for running scrim and fucking around with

[burnt tulip]

old French army pickaxe obviously, I'd say before WW2

no other markings?

[unreal bramble]

Hello, does anyone know how to use pso1 reticle on lying target instead of standing?

[solar wren]

Thx

[snow scarab]

no problem

i use their more expensive plate carriers but i use it for professional use so i needed the extra features

[grave egret]

200-300$

[grave egret]

talking about my rig? or the other guys

[winter kiln]

no other markings, but i think i found what it is after searching through a 1915 manual

[burnt tulip]

Nice

[solar wren]

Is this tactec rig any good

[misty mango]

no

[solar wren]

Ok

[misty mango]

its great if you want to do crossfit

but other than that
its a generally ass carrier

[solar wren]

Any reason

[misty mango]

not amazingly comfortable
cummerbund is shitty
and has that terrible wire QD

its also longer than most plate carriers

so you gotta get long plates

[solar wren]

Ah

[misty mango]

the wire QD is arguably the most outdated and awkward thing on this planet

it sucks ass to reassemble because tou have to thread it through everything

and if it gets yanked accidentally
your carrier finna hit the floor

[solar wren]

Ah

[misty mango]

training vest as in running and stuff?

[solar wren]

I guess that would be sub optimal

[misty mango]

if so
it works for that

but theres better options you can use for that
and be used as an actually functional carrier

[solar wren]

Yeah, I also want to use it to do drills and stuff

[misty mango]

if you want to go a lil bit more extensive you can probably find a crye JPC for about 250-300

theyre one of the best carriers on the market

and im assuming youre US
so theres probably quite a big second hand market

[solar wren]

Is there like a website where I can find second hand stuff other than eBay

I also want something that can be easily used with a back pack

[low fox]

what sorta pack are you using?

like for hiking, molle pack, etc

[solar wren]

Hiking more specifically a 5.11 amp12 so a smallish back pack

[low fox]

Dude got the sling on

[real sigil]

it got recalled cause it would break

and make the plate carrier not removable

[snow scarab]

that’s why i love the side of my banshee. shit fits mediums perfectly, and doesn’t have a QD other than buckled

[thorn aurora]

Were you at 7th esb?

i stg if ur last name starts with ch

[coarse laurel]

Oh a jarhead huh

[snow scarab]

ew jarheads

marines ain’t do nothing the good way

[misty mango]

they do it whatever way is the most fun

and i respect that

[snow scarab]

ah yes, they use c6 inside of buildings 💀

very fun

and a good way to overpressure your ears

[misty mango]

you aint having fun if your ears aren't ringing 24/7

[snow scarab]

well ya see, it’s also much less useful than detcord lol

[low fox]

lmfao pls no

5.11 is always generally trash

maybe their shirts are fine i suppose

[low fox]

"your disability is not service related"

i enjoy shooting an ar-15 without hearing protection

very nice very fun

tbh

AKs aren't as bad

i enjoy getting paid

[fluid plover]

That makes me cringe so hard

[low fox]

when shooting w/o hearing protection

[fluid plover]

I'm recoiling right now

[low fox]

this dude isn't real

[low fox]

i enjoy getting on disability and not getting paid because i decided not to wear ear-pro, we are not the same.

think about it

[low fox]

😭

in conflicts around the world, they never use hearing protection

why can't i?

hearing is the one thing you cant get back

nah

trust

id rather not have to throw up gang signs when I want to ask a question

i'm somewhat of a masochist ig

[misty mango]

since handheld big bangs were a thing people have been putting wet paper in their ears

as earplugs

thats what poor armies use in them conflicts

[low fox]

Got

It sitting above my bed just in case

[sharp iris]

buy a grenade

[native locust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789788130327789573/1003626974926872596/20220801_073454.jpg

dont know where to put this but its beutiful

[swift rose]

man where do I get the combat stimulants

[native locust]

illegal trade

[swift rose]

required for outrunning the rental kids in bb wars

[native locust]

cardio is required for that

and also form

[misty mango]

nah bro
SJ6 for airsoft

[swift rose]

ye

[swift rose]

nah that takes time and effort

[native locust]

then you would never acheive greatness

if you dont put time into it

[swift rose]

just use illegal military combat stimulants dude it's much quicker

[native locust]

not illegal if used in moderation

so if you get any genuine benfeits from it its illegal

[vocal venture]

Got a good price on the flea for it

[eternal vale]

Now get shot and test if its a good painkiller

Pretty please

[cloud slate]

^^

[vocal venture]

I'll rub some between my head eyes

[dusty fiber]

dont let it hanging like that, it'll break the straps, it happened with my mcu-2p

well

not "break"

but it will stretch them until they're not usable

[low fox]

i see

[narrow plinth]

it looks so goofy

[snow scarab]

thinking of getting a second carrier strictly for military use. any suggestions that are around the 200-250 price range?

[coarse laurel]

Depends, what do you do

[snow scarab]

12B

combat engineer

something durable enough to go through the shit, but modular enough that i can switch out things like cummerbunds easily

JPC is out of the question, unit won’t allow it

[coarse laurel]

Why not? JPC actually has an NSN and it’s widely used

I personally use a JPC 2.0 and Agilite K19 on a rotating basis as a 68W

[snow scarab]

no fucking clue why, but i kinda don’t want a JPC anyways. heard good things about the k19

isn’t that the israeli one?

[coarse laurel]

Yup

Also the JPC’s are durable idk what those guys are about, that’s why SF uses em the only downside of JPC’s is it’s not as comfy as K19’s

[snow scarab]

that’s my main thing is comfortability. right now i’m using a shellback banshee 2.0, but i’d rather use that as my personal carrier.

the k19 also comes with a latch system or whatever tf the system is called doesn’t it?

i have that on my banshee currently

[coarse laurel]

It’s just a QD system

Also I used to use a shellback SF

Then I sold it

[snow scarab]

i love the banshee so far. although all the old guys in my company like to tell me it doesn’t cover enough. just old boomer sgt shit lol

[coarse laurel]

It is boomer shit

[snow scarab]

lol

[coarse laurel]

Motherfuckers need to get with the times

[snow scarab]

might look at the k19 then. does it use a placard system?

honestly though. IOTVs can go die in a hole

[coarse laurel]

Most infantry dudes rock lighter plate carriers and people in the 82nd use MSV’s which is as slick as it gets

Yea

Make sure u get the 2.0 version

Or 3.0

For the placard

[snow scarab]

hell my buddy that’s a cav scout rocks a JPC

[coarse laurel]

I use a spiritus placard on it

[snow scarab]

placard isn’t as big of a deal for me. i’ve never gotten the true hype behind it

[coarse laurel]

And a HRT Maximus

[snow scarab]

although i’ve never actually looked into the benefits of it

[coarse laurel]

The awesome thing about it is modularity

As a medic I use it so I can switch between having a full combat load to being able to carry more medical shit

Outside of work I like taking the damn thing off and switching it with another placard with a different type of mag

Oh and being mounted it helps that you can take it off so you fit on the hatch of a 113 or something

Or a brad or an abrams in my case

[snow scarab]

hmmm

i’ll definitely look at that then

only thing is, how much are the placards?

[coarse laurel]

Depends, the HRT Maximus is around 120 bucks

Haley strategic DC3RM is 170
But it has everything included in it

Spiritus is 60 bucks but you need to get the inserts and attachments

[snow scarab]

hm alright. i’ll take a look at that definitely then

[real sigil]

the hypalon straps fail

the spc is very much the jpc 3.0

issue with the k19 is that the cummerbund design is poo

the actual plate bags are good

cummerbunds give no support though

so when you put weight on it you will definitely feel the carrier start to shift and move around

[compact dagger]

@coarse laurel got any warbelt recommendations ? preferably under 150

[slim hatch]

My keys came in and they gave a free ledx keychain

[tender garden]

problem is the jpc is the shoulder y strap tends to get fucked. thats about it.

[coarse laurel]

I use my JPC for ranges or short term missions

Long term shit where I’m in the field for weeks I use the K19 for comfort

[tender garden]

no clue what a k19 is really. i just stick to aws or crye for most things and thats about it.

i know of other companies but its just what i have stuck with.

[coarse laurel]

It’s agilite, it’s an israeli company

[tender garden]

ah yeah im familiar with them. Most of my dudes use their helmet covers and thats about it. not a fan myself but it doesnt matter.

[coarse laurel]

If it works for the IDF and their SF it guys works for me since those dudes see a lot of shit

[misty mango]

a lot of shit is putting it lightly

[fickle bison]

Idk, talibans has like 3 generations of freedom fighters so they prob seen even more shit

But that's the life in the middle east. Constant war and infighting

[lost escarp]

And the sad part is that that region used to be rather fertile and prosperous for several thousand years I believe

[coarse laurel]

I didn’t realize this was a contest, unless you can point towards a Taliban line of tactical gear that isn’t sourced from another military I’ll consider it part of the argument

[fickle bison]

Lol, they gotta use whatever they can find. They're scavs

[low fox]

i hope they continue to see a lot, if not more

[low fox]

taliban does a little trolling

[coarse laurel]

Lol what

It’s an agilite K19 and a JPC 2.0 it’s hardly airsoft ya goober

The brand is literally visible

Fuckin scrub

[misty mango]

ok rard

show us your shit

[misty mango]

also i dont know of any airsoft k19 clones

bruhhhhhhhh

what the actual fuck

[coarse laurel]

@grand walrus

[misty mango]

im gonna kms

[coarse laurel]

You should hydrate more you fuckwit

[misty mango]

and gone

[coarse laurel]

Thank god

[misty mango]

thank fuck

[grand walrus]

[coarse laurel]

I was more bothered at the color of his urine

As a medic

Lol

[misty mango]

that wasnt something i wanted to see this early in the morning

[jaunty sage]

i was too late what happened

[misty mango]

dms

[coarse laurel]

Mofo was close to rhabdomyolosis

[muted gate]

Jared literally only posted piss for months

then got banned for a clanging noise

[coarse laurel]

Someone trying to troll hard, then posted his own poop

[misty mango]

lmfao

[misty mango]

can you repeat that
just as if you were talking to a 5 year old

[coarse laurel]

It’s like kidney failure

[misty mango]

ah

[coarse laurel]

I also saw an afghan flag so taliban probably took his water

[misty mango]

[snow scarab]

i have never once used a FLC properly lol

not since basic at least

[spare minnow]

i want

[coarse laurel]

I was forced to use the TAPS on rucks and then here in CST I used my spiritus rig

[snow scarab]

i mean i am NG so it’s possible i won’t ever really use it lol

though we have an FTX next month and im tryna bring my personal carrier

[coarse laurel]

What state

Usually NG u it’s are chill with that shit

[snow scarab]

KS

[coarse laurel]

I wear my own opscore and plate carriers in my active duty

Unit

[snow scarab]

and no, my unit decides to be hardasses cause we are the only 12B unit in the state

i want to go active

which might actually be pretty easy

[coarse laurel]

Oh shit u did mention u were engineer huh

Yeah everyone is getting approved

For NG > Active

[snow scarab]

cause they are shutting us down in 2024 and if they spend less money to get released

[coarse laurel]

Had a buddy switch recently

[snow scarab]

really?

i was told that shit barely happens with my state

[coarse laurel]

Yeah look into it when u can

[snow scarab]

simply due to low retention

[coarse laurel]

It’s low retention everywhere

Haha

[snow scarab]

i wanna go active, but other shit kinda blocks me from wanting to go cause of i just dont know wtf to expect

lol true

no more GED lmfao

[coarse laurel]

Nah that got rescinded after a week

Funny enough

[snow scarab]

ah it did? lol

[coarse laurel]

Yeah turns out it wasn’t a kosher idea

Haha

[snow scarab]

lol

i love my banshee, and i would like to use it lol

cause i don't have land to go and shoot at otherwise to run drills or anything like taht

[coarse laurel]

Ah

Bruh Kansas tho

[snow scarab]

ikr/

you'd think there was a lot of free land, which there is]

[coarse laurel]

This is outside of Creech AFB

[snow scarab]

its just idk anybody with any nor do i know of outdoor ranges that allow steel case

[coarse laurel]

In Nevada

[snow scarab]

cause apparently 7.62x39 tula will harm their baffle lmao

im tryna find someone with some land they will let me use at anytime, that or a gun club with a range or sum shit

[coarse laurel]

Lol that’s what I want when I retire

A fuckin plot of lands somewhere like Kentucky

[snow scarab]

also i've been sitting in scav queue this whole time lmao. still not found a lobby

[coarse laurel]

Where I can shoot

In my backyard

[snow scarab]

im sitting on 1200 rounds of steel

and i can't use it fucking anywhere

[coarse laurel]

Rip

[snow scarab]

yuh

so you know anybody stationed at riley with land lemme know lmfao

[coarse laurel]

Yeah

I know some

When I was a scout a bunch of buddies PCS’d there

Lol im leaving Fort Knox tomorrow im excited

[snow scarab]

where you going?

[coarse laurel]

Back to fort bliss

I was on TDY helping with cadet summer training

[snow scarab]

oh shit ok

[low fox]

Original AI-2 medical kit from the Cold War era 1972

[dusty fiber]

consume the chemicals

[low fox]

Yeah, no thanks lmaoo

Its such a cool peice tho

[low fox]

From just smelling the medicine viles I have gained a headache:D

[low fox]

Yeah it’s pretty sick

Fairly cheap aswell

[dusty fiber]

consume taren 💯

[low fox]

£8

[vagrant wadi]

anyone acually experince handgaurd bend/laser loosing zero on the geiselle urgi rails?

[lapis star]

Aren’t they like 2 bucks on Amazon

[low fox]

Not originals

You can’t buy them on Amazon

[flint hemlock]

It would be pretty cool if a medical company was making in date refills for this

[low fox]

Yeah but the medicine inside probably isn’t the best to keep laying around if you have kids etc haha

[flint hemlock]

Give em an empty one

[low fox]

Especially needles etc but it would still be cool to have them with the pills in

[low fox]

Empty what?

[flint hemlock]

Med box

[low fox]

Oh yeah

[low fox]

I thought you meant the medicine haha

My bad

[flint hemlock]

Im wanting to get one of those kits with a soviet tourniquet

[low fox]

Yeah these are pretty cool

You can buy them from old Russian warehouses that stored them back in the Cold War, you can also buy them from a normal person that kept them from back then wich is what I did 🙂

The guy I bought it from his dad was a soldier he said and his dad kept it

[flint hemlock]

Also on the topic of in game items

My favorite in game helmet

[low fox]

Ahaha

Scavs ontop

[flint hemlock]

I also have a replica ak74m to go with it

Not as iconic as a toz or mosin

But still a scav weapon

[low fox]

Oh my god is jared pissposting here as well

@coarse laurel what did jared say to you about shit being airsoft?

[coarse laurel]

@low fox he said my work gear, agilite K19 and Crye JPC 2.0 was fake lol

[low fox]

What the fuck lmaoo

Jared is knowledgeable on guns but he doesnt seem so bright on gear

Man bought a fucking tactec for gods sake, lmao

[clever pier]

Too bad it only has 5 uses :((

[narrow plinth]

it looks so goofy

[clever pier]

It’s so goofy man. They’re not even that solid of splints IMO

[sage bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669158942139613186/1004820914023710761/d32d4d8416de03122127fd8be1e9c1e096053636fbba8a4213780494b5930be1_1.mp4

(sfw and military stuff 🙂 )

[dusky owl]

Anyone know where i can get a grizzly?

[lapis star]

Cool, I was thinking of buying an irl Vulcan. But even here in Russia it’s about 1k dollars.

[snow scarab]

lmfao that’s funny as fuck

[left flax]

baller

[low fox]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793196653632684093/1005220552560091216/trg-1.mp4

no way

[hearty echo]

Bros on a mission

[misty mango]

ive seen mfs wearing USEC patches aswell

this war is funny

[pastel cipher]

Well for $900, not to bad, cant complain.

Need some dark to test it properly still.

[flint hemlock]

Go to a closet and close the door

[fickle bison]

Which nvg is that

[misty mango]

looks like a pvs 14 of sorts

[low fox]

OH FUCK YEAH

II HAVE THE OTHER PART

[snow scarab]

900 for a pvs 14? that shit is about to have some serious fucking blemishes @pastel cipher

[low fox]

@low fox

lol

All n all

Usec gang

All the way

[fickle bison]

Classic bear vs usec discussion

[low fox]

Bear can suck these nutz

No drip having asses

[pastel cipher]

Only two small blems, police trade in thus the low price.

[snow scarab]

hm, fucking steal then

[pastel cipher]

Yeah.

[misty mango]

THERE IT IS

[final panther]

That’s 715 Roman Hors

[misty mango]

ballin

[fickle bison]

Why u banned from that channel?

[misty mango]

mods cringe

[echo jay]

this explains your absence

[fickle bison]

F

[coarse dew]

Anyone Here own an EXFIL helmet? Ive been looking at getting one, but am unsure how the comfort compares to getting an ops core sf high cut. Id mostly be using it to LARP at the range and play airsoft

[echo jay]

If for larp and airsoft get a bump or chinesium 3a helmet

[coarse dew]

I have a shitty helmet and I paid for what I got. $200 off ali express for a piece of shit that hurts my head

also the nvg mount on it cant actually mount anything because of the fucked up screw alignment

[karmic bronze]

What lightweight plate should I get?

[ancient grail]

You paid for something on Ali express

You literally get what you pay for

[karmic bronze]

Big boy money armor

Ya Boi lives in Texas and apparently we tryna become our own country so I’m getting ready 🥱

[misty mango]

[karmic bronze]

That’s it?

[misty mango]

i swear hesco were a few hundo

per plate

[karmic bronze]

Yeah my AU-MOD2 is chunk

[misty mango]

on he wants to be special

buy ali express steel

lmao

[karmic bronze]

I’ll just put a microwave plate in

[misty mango]

i recently got my hands on some training plates before i eventually move on to real ones and aslong as you have a good carrier
heavy plates aren't that much of an issue

especially multicurve

they comfy

thats what i mean
hurty back = unfun

[karmic bronze]

I got shot twice in my leg so I need weight reduction

My back is ok to be hurted

[misty mango]

damne

just fill your platebag with sand

[karmic bronze]

Ill just wire bags all around me

Flood protection sand bags left over from the last hurricane

[misty mango]

now youre thinking

[ornate kettle]

damn thats sexy

mid-gen smersh

[low fox]

Your bet can range pretty heavily

Velocity systems has their BZ-api plates which are really thin and light, they are special threat against 7.62x39 bz api

If you want lvl4 plates you can try to go with hesco 4800s, rma 1192, and ither comparable armor.

If you willing to go spook and pay spook money, hoplite has 28590s in stock, which are civilian released SPEAR gen 4plates that are exclusive to soccom, and sre pretty lighweight, or maybe try your luck with ebay and find 28595s which are the gen 5s

But overall i think you will be well served with something like a surplus esapi

Rev g and forwards

Just make sure to tap and torque test it

[snow scarab]

isn’t velocity DOD only?

for plates at least

[low fox]

Its just a matter of knowing someone with the right creds i guess

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Maybe instead of the velc you can get hesco 3810s

[karmic bronze]

Yee

[low fox]

Or wait till they release the 3811s

Anyways, i hope this helps @karmic bronze

If you have any more questions feel free to @ me

[karmic bronze]

Will do

Thanks

[snow scarab]

i am mil and i just have RMA lvl 4s lol

[low fox]

Well sometimes some guy just want that extra protection i guess lol

I have two friends who bought .50 bmg rated plates

[snow scarab]

it really isn’t extra protection, just lighter weight

lmfao you’re still dead

[low fox]

No not at all actually

[snow scarab]

the kinetic energy liquidizes your organs

[low fox]

Ceradyne “north ireland” plates

Made for the british army to stop .50

[snow scarab]

and if not, it’s gonna break every single rib and most likely puncture a lung

[low fox]

And yes, you would survive

[low fox]

Not at all

[snow scarab]

mhm, think that

[low fox]

The plate absorbs the energy

Thats what its meant to do

[snow scarab]

dude, a 5.56 hitting an esapi will break your ribs

[low fox]

And thats why steel armor sucks too

[snow scarab]

it does not absorb all of it

it just spreads it out and doesn’t allow the bullet to enter you

[low fox]

An aid worker in sarajevo took a 14.5mm to the chest and survived

It is possible

[snow scarab]

never said it wasn’t

just said it’s extremely unlikely

[low fox]

Thats the sole reason the north ireland plates were designed

[snow scarab]

i was told all this by a combat medic btw

[low fox]

If it wasnt, why woyld ceradyne make them?

Why would russia try to adopt gost br6 plates too?

[snow scarab]

my uncle has deployed 4 times and was a flight medic for 3. he’s seen guys take one round and have multiple broken ribs

because it’s equivalent to lvl 4 plates

[low fox]

The only times ive heard that happen is with guys who take x54r to a sapi plate that isnt rated for it

[snow scarab]

they can say it will stop it all they want, it most likely will, i never said it wouldn’t stop. but the extra kinetic energy is insane

[low fox]

Gost 6 and gost br6 are not the same thing

[snow scarab]

sapis are rated for 54r.

sapis are rated for black tip .30-06

which is armor piercing

[low fox]

Im talking old sapis

The black ones

The ones you are mentioning are Esapis

Which are different

Here, this is the russian br6 plates i was talking about

[snow scarab]

imma be honest, i don’t trust the russians to be truthful about their product 😂

[low fox]

Again, the bfd is not that much as you can see

[snow scarab]

the back face deformation will be immense

that’s normal what kills people

even when rounds stop

[low fox]

The ratings are solid, the qc not so much lol

[low fox]

As the image says, the bfd of the plate was 28mm

Thats half of the nij limit

[snow scarab]

once again, it’s russia

they give their soldiers cardboard

[low fox]

Cardboard?

Ph wait are you talkiing about the MAKET plates?

[snow scarab]

there is literally pictures and stories of russians being killed in ukraine with cardboard instead of actual plates

[low fox]

Kek

[snow scarab]

that’s worse than china, cause at least they say outloud they don’t issue body armor

[low fox]

They do now

Their plates still suck but it is an upgrade

[snow scarab]

barely

just started last year

[low fox]

Theyre still 30 years behind us tho

Sooooo

Lel

[snow scarab]

and it’s pretty much just their special operations that do

oh yeah, china is still quantity over quality

they fucking suck

[low fox]

Indeed

[snow scarab]

they use crossbows in some regards. which they published

[low fox]

Lmao

[snow scarab]

as “fear” propaganda

yeah let’s have that just bounce off my helmet/plate and i’ll turn around and put 12 in that fucking conscript lmao

[low fox]

Lmao

Fucking idiots indeed

[final panther]

Where the fuck did you heard that

DPR soldiers maybe, PMCs maybe but what about Russian soldiers - fuck no

You can’t even imagine how many armour and plates they got

And even if there is no modern armour - there is still shit ton of old soviet armor. If they are not wearing any this is their choice

[snow scarab]

PMCs are definitely gonna have body armor 😂

and yes i have both heard it and seen it

[twin creek]

because i am cringe imma buy some medium lvl nij plates for a "airsoft plat carrier"

[snow scarab]

helmet cam of ukrainians stripping russians minutes after death and them having no plates

[kindred coral]

lets assume it does stop 12.7x108 api at 50 m would the target still be alive by absorbing that much blunt force trauma?

[low fox]

Yes

Thats the purpose of the plate

In the first place

It absorbs the energy

[kindred coral]

I am highly skeptical.

[low fox]

The british gov want

Wasnt*

Lol

[kindred coral]

Considering the amount of force relative to even 30-06 there is a lot of back face deformation on quality lvl 4 plates.

[low fox]

Yeah, but thats why not every plate is built like a lvl 4

Strike face and backer thiccness, and materials are a factor

[kindred coral]

Got a source for the plate with technical specs?

[low fox]

Not a paper as it is but a friend owns the actual plate

It says down there 12.7mm protection

Lel

[final panther]

@snow scarab
PMCs are working like volunteer units rn. You just grab your own gear and they give you a gun

[snow scarab]

yeah, and PMCs make a fuck ton of money and almost all of them have their own gear and weapons

[final panther]

Ruskie propoganda XDDD

[snow scarab]

no, it wouldn’t. because this person does not know how plates truly work and how much it fucking sucks to still get shot

no we fucking don’t

literally nobody does

everybody wears their front and black plates minimum

they are all checked before going on patrol as well

the only thing we don’t wear is side plates

all someone has to do is come up and poke your chest and you are found out lol

[final panther]

volunteers once again. You just sign through DPR police and they sign you up as a volunteer, give you a gun and you are fighting on their side

[snow scarab]

exactly

guarantee you most actual PMCs have their own gear

just basic volunteers, yesh i can imagine they don’t have plates

[final panther]

Im talking about volunteers ffs

[snow scarab]

but that isn’t the word you used

you said PMC/

volunteers are not PMCs

[final panther]

MOST OF THE PMCS ARE VOLUNTEERS

[snow scarab]

two completely different realms. lowest of the low vs top tier

[snow scarab]

yes they are. and most PMCs are highly trained, well geared individuals

exactly what i’m trying to explain. someone who is a PMC is completely different from your basic volunteer that has little to no training

a PMC is an actual trained combatant with extensive knowledge of most aspects of ground combat

at least here in the united states it is

most all PMC groups require military service in a combat job, some even require combat experience too

nope

still have a very extensive selection process

physical tests, knowledge tests, combat drills, room clearing, other training

most of the time actual groups thay get contracted are ex-SOCOM guys

rangers, seals, SF

those guys

you’re average infantry dude might make the cut if he’s high speed, but more likely than not he won’t make it past a groups selection process

i have cause it’s something i wanna do after my time

people always wanna say that, but also don’t realize you can do pretty much any job in the military

cook, accountant, paralegal, lawyer

only about 20% of the US military is properly trained and in a combat job

🤷‍♂️

then don’t

let people who want to and are trained to, handle the real world problems

sources for that?

can’t find any

i see that the government passed a law that is strangling their farmers and stopping most from raising more cattle

[fickle bison]

Farmers literally control production on basic necessities. If the government piss them off, they have the ability to just starve the country if they get enough farmer to do the same.

[low fox]

not running level 5

Why even live

[low fox]

mood

[quasi stratus]

military?

but yea that is correct there was an officer who shot like 2 or 3 warning shots because one of the farmers drove away in a rather unsafe manner, but she received a warning immediately iirc

[ancient grail]

Tarkov irl

[snow scarab]

lmfao ong

[ancient grail]

Funny suit

[oblique dock]

last thing you see on factory

[slender wolf]

Quite the mess of gear

[potent raven]

What kind of rig and accessories do i need for knights rig

[left flax]

The lightest PMC on factory

[novel herald]

why do you have a poijnt

i am afraid of factory just for this reason

[ivory root]

lol factory is nakeds with shotguns/pistol 90% of the time trust

in all 3 wipes ive played, ive seen 1 zabralo on factory

[novel herald]

i usually see a big burly man with no shirt with the name tagilla

and i hate factory just for that reason

[ivory root]

hes pretty easy to kill just wait till he runs at u with a hammer and leg him

[novel herald]

everytime i load into it i just die or get run through

[novel herald]

bro he hides from me he hides in the most rat spots

i open a door he is just sitting there

[ivory root]

warm welcome to factory

[novel herald]

its not warm its cold in there

i get shot everytime

i dont like factory

[simple oyster]

i cant breath, but its ok, ive got mechanix gloves

[tight peak]

oh my gosh he has the shitty gloves!!! so cool!!

[simple oyster]

"shitty" gloves, mans on another planet

[left flax]

yeah they're pretty good

love my mpacts

[simple oyster]

ooh nice, ive got fast fit, thier really great

[karmic bronze]

I’m a factory main

Altyn, killa vest, blackrock, mp7 all day

[snow scarab]

“shitty” he says as nearly every single military member relies on them and they do their job fucking fantastically.

[coarse laurel]

@snow scarab lol you can really tell who isnt in the military here lol

fucking mechanix gloves saved my fuckin hands so many times

[snow scarab]

oh yeah same here

i use my mpacts when dealing with c wire cause i’ll use the knuckles

[worthy notch]

Do I?

True

[snow scarab]

what exactly do you mean? like IBAs and IOTVs vs plate carriers sort of deal? cause most everyone is all plate carrier. lighter, not as bulky, more movement, easier to store and lighter

yes but you lose a fuck ton of mobility and adds a lot of weight

[snow scarab]

i mean that’s what an IOTV is

and a full loaded IOTV without the extra kevlar weighs probably around 20 pounds if i’m honest. full combat load and plates

[ancient grail]

I hate the iotv

I hate chest rigs