weapon-modding

[rain parcel]

terrible ergo

[idle eagle]

ergo is irrelevant rn
doesnt make the build any good though

[rain parcel]

yea
Does the length of the gun change the ADS speed though?

[balmy sierra]

suppressed alt.

[idle eagle]

length no
weight usually does but not rn

[main vault]

no

[sage marsh]

sniper ak, my opps --> 😵

[foggy wing]

:3

[fluid moss]

[daring vapor]

Oh no. Its the California regulation AK

[sage marsh]

yep, i lost it already 😢

[daring vapor]

Them goddamn ATF feds stealing everything

Cant have shit in Norvinsk

[sage marsh]

i didnt knew that atf would shot me on sight to take my gun

[daring vapor]

the supressor is an illegal modification or some shit. i dunno

[foggy marten]

legal if you have a permission slip from them. :p

[real moss]

hello is it possible to add this handguard instead of my NL one ? i thought the DI version was AR15 proof so i could use any AR15 equipment

[main vault]

no

[real moss]

okok ty for help

[real moss]

any suggestion for upgrades ? i'm new to the game. I'm lvl 20 and traders lvl 2 (so not really much option).

[late jackal]

RK-2 foregrip and unsuppressed

[real moss]

was thinking of going for this aswell. And what for the muzzle ? i got the VP-09

(AR-15 SAI 14.5 inch QD Rail handguard)

[late jackal]

Whichever one gives the most Ergo and most recoil reduction for muzzle

[real moss]

i'm not to sure if the RK-2 is that insane here ? i hvae a shit ton of recoil buff and kinda low ergo here no ?

[real moss]

i see

[late jackal]

Some random shit I made which is maxxed out for recoil unless I missed smth. Multiple handguards give same ergo in case you care about larping

[vital kayak]

YOU WANT ERGO TO BE 45-55 WITH LOWEST RECOIL POSSIBBLE . THE RECOIL HELPS YOUR SHOTS STAY ON TARGET .. ERGO IS JUST TO GET THE SIGHT UP QUICKER .. ALSO TRY TO KEEP A LASER OR FLASHLIGHT ON SO YOU CAN GET THE SPREAD BUFF

[vital kayak]

THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL BUILD

[real moss]

ooooh thought ergo was like a main line stat that enhanced everything. But if it's "only" animation it isn't that important then ty for the help !

does heating/cooling really matter ?

[vital kayak]

CERTAIN GUNS HEAT UP QUICK AND JAM BUT ITS MORE SECONDARY .. AS LONG AS YOUR GUN IS ABOVE 93% DURABILITY YOU SHOULD BE GOOD

[real moss]

i need to use this to not put red durability on my weapon right ?

[vital kayak]

YES AND REPAIRING GUNS AND ARMOR ALSO GIVES YOU A STAT INCREASE. SOME PEOPLE BUY GUNS AND ARMOR FROM FENCE AND REPAIR AND RESELL TO ONE OF THE VENDORS

[real moss]

ooooooh good to know, i suppose it's only ergo right ?

[vital kayak]

NO THE RAPAIR SKILL IS FOR YOUR CHARACTER STAT

[main vault]

change everything: silencer 51t + sdn6, lopro gasblock, ax-15/ion lite handguard, gfmlok grip, moe ar15 pist grip, ere + prsgen3 stock

[real moss]

what is sdn6 and ere ?

[main vault]

sdn6 silencer that connects to 51t, ere is a tube

[real moss]

is it possible that you send pictures. I can't seem to find it :/ sry

not sure if you are talking about that and sdn i can't buy it since i'm less than 25

[vale sail]

well you're in pve so it doesnt really matter that much, if you like what you have now, you will unlock better stuff in the future. your build above seems just fine for pve. the gun doesnt matter as much as ammo does when you arent dealing with other players

[real moss]

make sense but still trying to make it good haha, got lucky with an insane early equipment (this NL, Osprey MK4A, Flux, Comtac VI and 6SH118). Trying to imrpove this build the further i can to be the most efficient

and i run a shit ton of interchange, Killa kinda scary without weapons

[vale sail]

this is probably one of the best when it comes down to lvl 2 traders+lowest recoil available (any pistol grip is fine that has -1 recoil) with your choice of laser/flashlights, sights, etc

[real moss]

okok ty guys for help !

[pliant smelt]

I KILLED AN LEVEL 54 USEC AS AN SCAV!!!

[marble obsidian]

gotta have that 90s era m4

[worldly relic]

the current 556 meta, despite its 10 inch barrel, it has the lowest recoil any 556 can have

[sharp dove]

this is lower

[worldly relic]

yeah thats also a single shot with lower ergo

[vale sail]

the cqb/crd also has the old muzzle flash so you have to fight against that

[sharp dove]

ergo doesn't matter right now

[worldly relic]

idk what kind og slow pace your on but it actually does

[sharp dove]

no overswing currently so recoil comes before ergo

[worldly relic]

like i said idk what kind of slow pace your on but ergo matters when you are moving around alot

not to mention the single shot isnt so favored when more than half of the bots take 2 to 3 shots on thorax to take down, specially on a game where the AI targets and shoots you with human like reaction times or often faster

the Scar build is also alot smaller in leight making it better on short space areas and still has roughly the same recoild

[vale sail]

oh this is pve vs pvp lol, those are completely different games

[worldly relic]

i said meta because it can perform well on any situation

[vale sail]

in pvp every bit of recoil advantage matters, that isnt really meta for pvp

[worldly relic]

sure

[sharp dove]

low ergo but the recoil is great

[sacred quarry]

it doesn't even, though

you're gonna suffer at anything at a significant range, and the gun doesn't fire fast enough to dominate in CQB. it's just not great.

[vale sail]

well its pve so its not a big deal, and I kinda misread it, I think they meant meta being more 556 being meta rather than the gun itself

[worldly relic]

well idk what the hell you are going to be shooting at from anything past 200 meters at that point id said your special for thinking this is a dmr but sure the fire rate may be slow but even then 600 is enought to kill rel;atively fast

[sacred quarry]

i mean sure but it's also PvE, a better gun takes like 5 minutes to put together

[covert finch]

for you knowledge gun recoil also matters

some guns have more more dogshit recoil compared to others , which even w low ass recoil stats it would shoot like shit

an example is ak 105 , u can get it pretty low to like 160-150 horizontal and the initial recoil just goes into the moon

and a gun like the sig spear with 200 horizontal is more accurate than it

[worldly relic]

Right

Your point?

[covert finch]

that ur build is not meta whatsoever

only 3 5.56 guns worth running r on pve m4 radian and hk416

[worldly relic]

Rigggghhhttt

Welp my reply to that is have fun with all the 20 inch barrels yall are running

👍

[sacred quarry]

most of us run a 16 or a 14.5

[worldly relic]

thats nice, well in all honestly meta is debatable in reality its all down to how well you can feel and know the weapon, full auto spray and pray will always be abit terrible and more on some other wapons and others but i do have video recordings of me showing that feeling and knowing the weapon is alot more important that having it pimped out

this is what i mean, attachments make is easier to do this but if you get the feel for the gun, doing 2 to 3 round burst in quick succession (depends on the ammo and fire rate) its very easy and controllable despite the lack of significant attachments

and many will say that the fire rate and this and that, my reply is well 29/30 shots hit withing a 4 inch diameter from each other and that 1 was because i messed up, and thats with a stock scar L, which i guarranty it wouldnt have performed the same if i would have just held dokwn the trigger

[shut frost]

pretty aight weapon

[covert finch]

apart from mcx or hk m4 is ran w a 16 inch

ergo barely matters anymore , even 40 is aight

[plush vine]

that

[covert finch]

only place that ergo would matter is arena

[wispy heart]

would be cool if you compared it to just holding down the trigger

[worldly relic]

That’s the thing, holding down the trigger kinda worsens the true capability of the gun, that’s why I said attachments matter yes but feeling the gun can be more significant for better results

[wispy heart]

yeah, question is just how much of a difference does it make :)

[worldly relic]

Well I tell you get a stock scar L and do a full auto spray and compare it to my results

[wispy heart]

👍

[void vale]

Just use guns that you find FUN to use, it's a game after all

[idle eagle]

hey

[void vale]

Hey

[lilac jetty]

my current favourite SMG the MPX

[turbid fossil]

@warped frost

[novel anchor]

i need a good sr-25 build for test drive part 1

[foggy marten]

scope, red brake, front grip, send it

[void garden]

just put the quest attachments then like an moe grip and whatever foregrip

[warped frost]

@turbid fossil huh?

[jade fjord]

why does the flash lights not work against players

[empty karma]

Volumetric lighting probably

[jade fjord]

so too many lights?

[empty karma]

No, Volumetric lighting, if they have it turned off, they won´t so blinded by the lights you have on the gun

[jade fjord]

oh okay thank you

[bold girder]

They probably do, just flashlights don’t make you invincible
You can still aim roughly head level at the person blinding you and kill them

[fluid pewter]

Does anyone know why this grip is ~50k on flea? There are better grips for like 8k

Is it just cuz it looks cool?

[jade fjord]

I meant like why dont they show as on when they are on, on my screen

[prime robin]

its on some wag shit thats why gang like the old meta hk

[fluid pewter]

I don't understand you. Are you just saying that it was used on old meta HK and people like that build?

[wise bear]

when you hipfire with it you look cool

[cosmic fjord]

1 verticle and 2 horizontal worse recoil but 5 more ergo

[hollow spade]

Thoughts on a DMR kinda setup for a FAL?

[errant kite]

anyone on pve know if its even worth using supressors? idk if they actually do anything except change the sound and the durability burn is such a pain

[vale sail]

unless you like the sound, it is never worth it.

[signal summit]

the recoil boost some people like

also it looks so awesome

[fleet marten]

Just getting t3 traders looking for a fun gun to build like 170k if there’s anything anyone knows please lmk ima newer player my builds come out rough

[coral pelican]

i agree it doesnt fit in the game but i doubt they will remove it. so i think they should make the ammo fir only

if its like 5-30k a shot on flea that will reduce its use

[scenic charm]

nope

for kedr and mp9 you need a sustained burst, for ks its one brief moment

[cosmic fjord]

no gun should 1 shot leg imo. or atleast not be cheap and do it

there so overused i see ks23s daily all of the time and there super unfun to fight against and extremely risky. i dont push ks 23 users. they are naked and have nothing to lose and have an op gun. anyone who defends it would like to see nakeds with a cheap 1 shot no skill cannon running around like wtf

[solemn ginkgo]

@whole lotus @neon cedar i have 16 mil and want to give gear pls unmute

[neon coral]

Tbh I think it just needs to be more expensive

[cosmic fjord]

ye if they want it to be one shot its gotta be 100k min. and its shells should be 10 k min

[scenic charm]

Yeah lol it isnt exactly a common weapon

[robust roost]

EIEIEEI

[scenic charm]

wait no i got a good idea

@cosmic fjord gun FIR only on same weapon racks that AKs spawn on but with a lower chance

that makes sense because they were used as non lethals by guards

[cosmic fjord]

or make gun non lethal only

you know that makes more sense, i doubt the gun was with lethal ammo most of the time considering it was for police units

[coral pelican]

buff slug accuracy and give scope for ks23 pls

[misty tide]

Imagine reddit

[coral pelican]

reddit is a bunch of ******

[misty tide]

Best take

[coral pelican]

oh it deleted some of them

they thought wipe was 12/12 because the name reset was 12/12 on the 5th, but it resets in a week so no shit it will say the 12th if you reset on the 5th

i did it on the 6th and it said next name change was the 13th

also making buckshot hard to get and making slugs viable would make ks23 less cancer

153 would still be better

[hardy sedge]

Ks23 should be slightly more expensive, 1 per restock, 15 Shrap10 per restock, 1 Zvezda per restock. Should be exactly enough so that you can only run it once before having to wait an hour to use it again

[cosmic fjord]

Why do people praise the mp 153 so much when the saiga 12 is just better and is still not that expenisve. Less recoil and 20 bullets!

[echo gorge]

20 round mags are not cheap especially early wipe but the 10 rounders accompanied with magnum buck are one of my favorite early wipe guns

[thorny osprey]

you can make 153 an absolutely massive gun for insurance purposes

[stray orbit]

it should work

[thorny osprey]

I certainly hope it will

idc that a lot of people are gonna quit

[stray orbit]

People aren't going to quit

VOIP and Inertia will bring the came closer to the more RPG aspects, which is good

[thorny osprey]

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of players take a leave of absence for a few months

[stray orbit]

this update is gonna be baller

SCAR-H/L
AK12/15/19 (mayyyybe?)
USP-45
Toz Double Barrel shotgun
OTs 20g revolver

shit ton of new mods for AKs and ARs

Inertia
VOIP
Lighthouse
New Armour
New Clothes

[thorny osprey]

I thought we were only getting a handful of new ar/ak mods

off the top of my head I think the vortex lpvo and the hex suppressor are the two my brain picked out as notable

[coral pelican]

only thing 153 is better at is sniping. 4 moa is pretty nice. and very niche use of easily top loading slugs when you have buckshot loaded once you get the keys down

[opal rain]

@coral pelican Yo, do you have the designs for the Meta HK/M4 for this wipe?

Haven't really been following the meta lately

[coral pelican]

m4 (but there is a lot of variation, 406 and 18" barrels are popular)

[opal rain]

Thanks

[coral pelican]

here is lowest m4

100 ergo

[opal rain]

pain

What about budget/affordable M4s

[coral pelican]

if you have mechanic 3 the tx trade gets the upper and gas block cheap (or was cheap idk now)

if just those parts are expensive you can use moe pistol grip and the stock tube

[opal rain]

Yeah I played jack shit this wipe

2mil and level 28 kek

[coral pelican]

oh, so no mechanic 3 either

with prices right now all i can say is good luck

[scenic charm]

@coral pelican plans for next wipe?

[coral pelican]

grind moneies, get flea, get meta kit, do quests lol

imma quest with hex and tagilla mask if i can manage it

if my money making plans work

probably everyone is going to be doing money runs early wipe so there might be a lot of competition

[scenic charm]

what is it

im just gonna grind bosses for keycards to run labs

early wipe

[coral pelican]

eh, i'm not sure yet. i might try several different things and see what works. new maps tend to be stacked with loot so maybe lighthouse

[scenic charm]

yeah

i want to explore lighthouse

[coral pelican]

i just need to wait for someone to show all the extracts

[dusty mason]

i am not going to focus anything this time around, just live how I can. everything in moderation this time

[coral pelican]

i'm going to be one of those lame people that grinds recoil skill. i've never had it max before. normally i click heads and it stays single digits, this is the first wipe its been over 10

and grind money early instead of just focusing on quests like i normally do

[dusty mason]

this wipe is the first time i got a maxed skill (metabolism) lul

[coral pelican]

did you get max covert when it was bugged and leveled just by walking?

[dusty mason]

no, when i know about those kinds of glitches or bugs. I usually dont use em

[coral pelican]

the only way to not use that bug is not move all raid tho

[dusty mason]

then i was not playing during that time

[blazing narwhal]

beta C mags WE NEED

[coral pelican]

i'm also 90% sure metabolism is bugged atm

[dusty mason]

[coral pelican]

preview of next wipe

[dusty mason]

@coral pelican Small study break 🙂

[coral pelican]

i bet your recoil skill is decently high lol

[dusty mason]

its not cause i dont play that many raids. (some i dont shoot at all cause i am just walking to my destinations)

[coral pelican]

casually walking down the street with 500 rounds of ammo lol

[coral pelican]

i think that is pretty good. close to search skill level (also nice mag drills)

[dusty mason]

i spent alot of time packing ppsh mags 🙂

[coral pelican]

my search skill is like 8 levels ahead and i was trying to level recoil for a little

[tired kayak]

Newb question: what exact effects do weapon mastery have?

Ah sorry wrong channel

[hardy sedge]

Fun tip: Tactical devices with those barely visible IR searchlights count as lasers for hipfiring when they're on the only searchlight mode, so you can hold an angle without your laser being seen or ADSing as long as you use one of those (however if the other person has nvgs you're fucked so maybe don't use them on night raids)

This actually makes my life a whole lot easier because then i wont get the classic anxiety situations of "what if they see my laser" or "what if they hear me ADS"

[oblique sequoia]

anyone else kinda hyped for sks drum

[kindred hamlet]

imagine toploading that shit

[whole lotus]

honestly i would

[kindred hamlet]

2 minute reload les go

[opal rain]

what the fuck

how do I have higher ping to singapore than denver

[oblique sequoia]

20 minutes reloading a 50 round drum

[opal rain]

singapore is 6000km away and I can normally connect to it, denver is 16,000km away

[cunning ocean]

Dont forget its faster to switch to your secondary weapon then to reload

[oblique sequoia]

u see ivan, never have reload if have second weapon

[coral pelican]

new reload animations and at level 3 (max) you can reload while ads'd

mcx for example i got a new animation at lvl 2 (3 seems the same). the ads reload is pretty useless

[lunar falcon]

It's not search light, its infra red light and its only visible on thermals, not nvgs
Edit. Actually idk about thermal, but definitely not visible on nvgs

[blazing rapids]

nah the IR illuminators are for NVGs, not thermals

[proper wyvern]

They don’t work in game yet 🙂

They’re still visible with naked eye but only from a from a few meters. No change with nods or thermals

Flashlights also provide the bonus. Some guns are very usable with the front iron sight so you can double up on lights and not lose your target while they’re completely unable to see you

[deft umbra]

official nikita merch....

[crimson girder]

i hate this

[rose bramble]

So are all bosses 100% in inter?

[stray orbit]

Time to start working on my poster submission

[stray orbit]

If it's infrared
Its visible on NVGs

IR visibility is literally one of the purposes of NODs lol

However, tarkov rn doesn't show IR lasers/lights

But it's planned to be fixed at some point

When? Ask Nikita

[keen ember]

Everything gonna be “fixed” in 12.12

[stray orbit]

Don't talk shit about 12.12 bruv
I haven't been this hyped since reserve

[cunning ocean]

Just to get let down

[stray orbit]

Nah
Y'all are in for a surprise

[cunning ocean]

Cuz they fucked everything at once?

A good ol clusterfuck?

[stray orbit]

I can't elaborate

[cunning ocean]

Aight

Mr i have special info and wont share

[stray orbit]

And Mr, Bruh

Anybody that isn't blacklisted from images on this server, is new
Change my mind

[light finch]

skif is alive dlc

[stray orbit]

I liked Mike

[light finch]

that usec friend?

idk from beggining to end i was expecting a betrayal from him

every usec is a sketchy son of a bitch

[stray orbit]

:(

Why
Lol
USEC has been shown (so far) to be pr loyal
And trustworthy when it comes to whatever than are paid to do

BEAR is the same
They're both contractors

[dusty ridge]

hey guys

[acoustic delta]

??

[dusty ridge]

whats the next flea market lvl

like what the next lvl required to use flea market

[whole lotus]

ah I know this bug, you need to get the original fold stock and unfold the weapon with it

[acoustic delta]

thx

[tough atlas]

if i would guess it will be higher cause nikita wanted to prolong the earlygame

[dusty ridge]

nooooooooooooo

i wanted it to be lvl 25

[tough atlas]

well 25 is higher than 15 so

[dusty ridge]

i meant to say 15

nooooo

[tough atlas]

oh okay my theory is that they lowerd it cause so many people where in lategame so new and lowlevels could have a fighting chance

and that they'll higher it this wipe

[dusty ridge]

so will the lvl be higher or lower

[blazing rapids]

I bet they'll do some kind of restricted flea market

[tough atlas]

higher i would say but i don't know

yeah or that

[blazing rapids]

like you can't sell guns, ammo, or armour, but can sell barter goods

[tough atlas]

i like that cause then you have to play more for hideout

[crimson girder]

i doubt they'll do that

[dusty ridge]

i just wanna try the new scar and usp

[stray orbit]

15

It's 15

[dusty ridge]

How do you know

[stray orbit]

That's this wipes one and they have made no intention of changing it

Since it was originally 20 this wipe, they dropped it to 15

Which you can get in a day

I've done it lol

[crimson girder]

made a mk18 mod 1. sadly no perfect stock as the one that i wanted shape wise isnt available tan :(

[stray orbit]

Yeah the LMT crane doesn't come in Tan in tarkov

Its still a Mk18 Mod 1 if you make it all black

[crimson girder]

i wanted it tan cause imo looks cooler lol

[stray orbit]

It does yeah

I like the Sopmod Block II over the Mk18s imo
The Mk18s are too short

[crimson girder]

wanted the tan holo too but i dont have max traders and its not on flea

[crimson girder]

260 mil barrel yeah

[stray orbit]

10.3" barrel is great for cqb
But not all combat is cqb

12.5" of the Sopmod is perfect imo

And the block IIs use the Elcan Spectre d4 and CTR/MOE stocks

So it's a win

[cosmic fjord]

Killa in oli, sanitar underneath, gluhar centre, reshala by big window near tech, tagilla in idea, shturman underneath.

bosses all on interchange pog

[light finch]

out of all the maps they had to chose the shittiest one

[cosmic fjord]

to be fair it was pretty fun

just killed sanitar and gluhar and fought some other juicers

[scenic charm]

Mk-18 eotech

[scenic charm]

Doit

[cosmic fjord]

Idk man mk18 vs bosses???

Ive been using rsass

Mk18 dont 1 shot bosses

[scenic charm]

I know that

[scenic charm]

But to the head

Better than M61 because that can’t one tap

[cosmic fjord]

Ye it can... Only boss it wont one tap is tagilla

[scenic charm]

Reduced damage thru helmets

Rsass is fun tho

[cosmic fjord]

im using m62

that 79 damage is crazy

ive been kind of liking it over m61

[errant hemlock]

It’s huge

[scenic charm]

I use it in full auto guns

[cosmic fjord]

i mean like one time my friend shot my leg with m62, dont ask me why. but it halved my health

[scenic charm]

Fragmentation?

[cosmic fjord]

im guessing

then i shot his leg with 338 lapua fmj

[scenic charm]

Lmfao

[cosmic fjord]

interchange rsass

[kindred hamlet]

intersass

[hardy sedge]

Well the IR serchlight of the perst 4 helps wirh hipfire for me

But which one is the infrared light tho

[coral pelican]

none of them should be visible on thermal, unless its a heat beam lol

[hardy sedge]

Exactly

[coral pelican]

the red circle is the one that helps with pointfire without being "visible" (you can see it if its close to a wall)

[cosmic fjord]

can you even use red dots and scopes with nvgs irl?

[coral pelican]

irl?

ah

[hardy sedge]

Which one is the red circle

[coral pelican]

i imagine you could if you could line up the sight with the tube with your eye

[coral pelican]

go up against a wall and change modes, should have some laser settings and then a big red circle

[light finch]

im surprised bsg still havent added point fire with nvgs

[hardy sedge]

Most have a big barely visible green circle

[coral pelican]

ik not being able to ads with faceshields is planned, idk if its planned with nvg too

[cosmic fjord]

i want those big lasers that only work with nvgs in game

[coral pelican]

some faceshields have cut outs to ads and there are stocks that let you ads with faceshields

[cosmic fjord]

like the vulkan right?

and the lzsh black one

[lunar falcon]

You can definitely use sights with nvgs irl. Iron sights were hard to use because the nvg device had to fit between back sight and head. With red dots we used to mount the right side/eye nvg device to the gun before red dot so the dot is visible through the device and have left side device on eye so we could also see without aiming

[cosmic fjord]

CAN SHTURman have suppresed svds?

[light finch]

its still easier to aim with a laser rather than to fuck around with trying to ads

[night iron]

Mw type shit

[night iron]

Nop

[scenic charm]

Wyes

Yes some optics have particular NV functions

Such as the eotech

[light finch]

chat be dead af

[coral pelican]

everyone is just so excited about wipe and the events they are playing too much to chat

[keen ember]

waiting for wipe (waiting for scar h)

[regal rune]

SCAR-H?! Cringe. Puffer Jacket better

[coarse viper]

whos hyped for ppsh'

[dusty mason]

me

[coarse viper]

@dusty mason when we doing our factory tagilla armor ppsh run

i just killed tagilla i have his armor its maxed hp

killed him with the ppsh ofcourse what other gun would i use

[languid field]

whats a good ready to go sorta gun no expensive modding

[keen ember]

p90

mp7

[languid field]

rifles?

[keen ember]

automatic?

[languid field]

preferably

low recoil

[keen ember]

i don't think there is any

rifles are all high recoil before modding

[languid field]

😦

[coral pelican]

both mdr's are usable with 0 modding

[keen ember]

only semis are usable without modding

[languid field]

ooh mdrs thats right

[keen ember]

he said low recoil lol

[languid field]

true true

[keen ember]

if usable is fine then mdr would work

[coral pelican]

i mean, they have more than 30 recoil but they are still fine

[languid field]

but regardless i just want a rifle that feels good and doesnt break the bank

[keen ember]

low recoil rifle def needs modding

[keen ember]

trader level?

[languid field]

2 im very bad

[coarse viper]

ppsh

[keen ember]

would val work?

[languid field]

joke?

[keen ember]

it requires a bit of modding but not a lot

[coarse viper]

its actually good

[languid field]

YES

[keen ember]

and not THAT expensive

[languid field]

does it pen or leg meta?

[coral pelican]

like what is "low recoil", if its sub 40 then mutant isnt a low recoil gun

[keen ember]

sp6 is decent not crazy expensive

[coarse viper]

leg meta

[keen ember]

idk the lines are not exactly clear

[coarse viper]

its just a good gun cause insane rpm and the mags come in 35 rounders and 72 rounders

gun is insane early game cause you can get at the get go prapor level 1

ammo also pens paca early game so you dont need to leg meta early

you can also mag dump onto tier 3s and tier 4s and it will work

1000rpm go brrrr

[void garden]

lmao

[coral pelican]

but yeah, probably just mdr's and val/vss for rifles that dont need modding, smg's as a whole as well

kinda mcx as well, all you do is add the suppressor and its basically good to go. but ergo will suck

ak's you can add jmac and buttpad and be fine

[coarse viper]

im not wrong it has 1000rpm

it will kill rat rigs so fast they have no durability

[coral pelican]

hmm, 20 hits with akbs before penning 6b3tm. might kill them with blunt damage first. seems like leg meta would be better

[coarse viper]

bro who uses that ammo

[coral pelican]

people with lvl 1 prapor at the start of wipe. its that or fmj43

[coarse viper]

fmj ontop baby

[coral pelican]

or use leg meta if you unlocked jaeger

[blazing rapids]

early Jaeger has LRN doesn't he

[coarse viper]

LRN ontop baby

blunt damage is the PPSH's friend

[coral pelican]

fmj43 is 24 hits before penning

[blazing rapids]

always go legs or face with ppsh imo

[coarse viper]

one does not pen
with ppsh

you break. not pen.
ppsh is brute force

[keen ember]

@coarse viper dude would die as if someone punched him 100 times

[coral pelican]

well, it pens when the armor is zeroed out lol. if they didnt die from blunt damage first

[keen ember]

not a single penetration would

[coarse viper]

you dont pen you just break their chest with blunt damge

[coral pelican]

wow, vs lvl 1 trader ppsh ammo paca is better than 6b3tm

if i was to use it i would shoot legs

[coarse viper]

nah just aim somewhere near the neck and chest

rpm will carry the bullets to the head

[coral pelican]

7 leg hits with lrn

[coarse viper]

its a beast at leg meta

just an epic gun all around

leg meta may be cheese but its so strong

[coral pelican]

double barrel shotgun next wipe with magnum, 800 damage with 1 click. ks23 only does 700 (but can do it 4 times before reloading instead of once)

or express, 18 pellets aimed at your face

i wonder what the blunt damage of 16 magnum pellets is like

[keen ember]

????

800!!??!!

cringe

[coral pelican]

magnum does 400, so 2 shells in the double barrel will be 800

16 pellets of 50 damage

i wonder how fast the reload will be

also when it will unlock

imagine if you can make it a 1x3 and hotkey them in an alpha rig

[coarse viper]

jaeger level 2 prob?

double barrel seems a little busted

realistic but busted.

[blazing rapids]

magnum double barrel will definitely be hilarious

but the reload is going to keep it in meme tier instead of actually good

it could be a cheap barter at Jaeger LL1

[coarse viper]

@blazing rapids BRUIH WHAT

[coral pelican]

unless you can make it a 1x3 and its cheap. then you can run 6 of them

[coarse viper]

bro its an insta kill how is that meme?
who cares if reload takes a few seconds

[void garden]

spread will be bad though

[blazing rapids]

the revolver shotty will be interesting

[coarse viper]

who cares there are so many pellets spread wont matter

[void garden]

i mean its like if you shoot both at once, and miss/dont kill youre fucked

[coarse viper]

how do you miss

if they are closer than 10m you cant miss

[void garden]

have you seen the average tarkov player

[coarse viper]

buddy they can hit someone 5m away from them

[blazing rapids]

could just be two guys

[void garden]

also youre gonna tell me that youve never missed an easy shot once?

people can fuck up, it happens

just youll get punished WAY more with the DB than with a semi auto shotty

[coral pelican]

you can say all of this about the ks23, the pump animation is long enough if there is 2 or you miss you die

[void garden]

i do say that about the ks lmao

[coral pelican]

doesnt stop people from using it and one tapping people

[void garden]

its hard to balance shit like the DB and KS without making them totally useless

[coral pelican]

agreed

[blazing rapids]

DB will be a super rat gun, good for whacking one geared dude and stealing his stuff

cheap and no mods, not worth looting

[void garden]

i wanna run db ap20s, would be funny

[coral pelican]

oh my

[void garden]

what will happen anyways though even if the DB/SCAR arent broken at all theyll get hyped up by streamers and inevitably nerfed because everybody using something = meta

[coral pelican]

i wonder if 1 ap20 and 1 flechette/buckshot would be decent or bad

also yes, scar would need to be as bad as mcx to not be overhyped and nerfed

[void garden]

scar-L will probably end up being like a lower recoil mdr 556, scar-h will probably just be an mdr308

[coral pelican]

i hope people compare scar-L to mdr and ak101 instead of m4

[sage reef]

why are scavs becoming so aggro

[keen ember]

M4 still rock solid

Needs a nerf

[coral pelican]

what, no way. they keep nerfing meta guns and buffing m4. i think m4 needs more buffs

should have 90 ergo suppressed with a drum and 30 recoil

also buff 55a1 some more, and lower the skier price

hk and fal need nerfed some more as well

[keen ember]

@coral pelican they nerf everything except for m4

[cosmic fjord]

55a1 is fine where it is at imo. The low price from skier is fine considering he Only gives you 90 bullets and m855a1 isnt a pen all round.

But the m4 def needs nerfs. Just make the meta recoil like 45. Ergo is alright where it is at you do need a shorter barel for 50+ ergo w/ 60s.

[keen ember]

Bet they gonna do the same thing with scar

It’s insane at first then gets a big nerf

[coral pelican]

the price is definitely a problem, unless you exclusively run 556 the buy limit is almost meaningless. would be like making bp 400 roubles but you can only get 60. the pk price is a little high but someplace around 500-700 roubles would be good imo

[keen ember]

Yeah I almost never run it of 55a1 bc of how much of it I’m getting off players

[coral pelican]

i dont run 556 a ton but it is one of my main guns and i have a full ammo box all from skier

[cosmic fjord]

55a1 isnt all that crazy imo maybe 500 roubles a round would fine from skier. The m4 makes 55a1 seem like such a crazy round. But i know when I face a rys t slick boi they TANK 55a1.

[coral pelican]

is 2 pen and 12 damage enough for going from 368 roubles to 985? hardly seems like enough for that big of a jump. or even 300 blk ap, +0 pen and + 9 damage for 367 more roubles. is 9 damage worth doubling the price?

also 56a1 costs more than 55a1 lol

its only by like 10 roubles but still funny

[tawdry anvil]

Why does it say that when those parts are clearly available on the flea market

Ok nvm I'm dumb

[languid field]

is there any 2 or 2.5x scopes?

[coral pelican]

monstrum is 2x, small fov but nice reticle. prism is 2.5, large for but messy reticle

[dusty mason]

I dunno cause my finals are like now ;-;

but i am thinking of playing in this discord for some fun kits

[coarse viper]

Same. The struggle is real

If you have like 30 minutes we can do something in this discord like meme kits I gotta use up my tagilla set before wipe

In the next few days

Perhaps we can use the tt pt gzh rounds since they have tracer and they quite scary

[languid field]

thank you 🙂

[tired kayak]

The compact 2x scope feels really clean to me for short to medium range fights

Ah yea monstrum it was already said

That optic is one of my favorites

I dont recommend prism. Used it for a while and the reticle can and will throw you off if you arent used to it

[coral pelican]

i want the reticle of the monstrum with the fov of the prism

2x or 2.5x idc

[tired kayak]

^^

Just had my first spontaneous death on woods. After 150 raids

Sucks because i had good nvg on

[languid field]

best red dot?

[scenic charm]

eotech

Uh-1, or Delta

[winter tree]

T1 is sexy

[winter hawk]

you guys ready to find the meta setups this next wipe?

[drowsy cloak]

revolver shotgun with ap-20

[meager vortex]

DB S.T.A.L.K.E.R roleplay

[whole lotus]

How effective is modding a 366 ak early and mid wipe?

[drowsy cloak]

imo, very effective

[tired kayak]

If you mean the vpo-209, it is severely underrated. If you have flea unlocked or have ap-m ammo unlocked, the gun is actually really good

It is a one shot to the thorax with level 4 and below i believe.

[whole lotus]

Could you make a cheap budget build for me

[tired kayak]

I mean sure

What level traders?

[whole lotus]

lvl 2

[tired kayak]

Sure give me a bit. In raid rn.

Currently running my own build for vpo-209 rn

[whole lotus]

warzone sa58

[quiet frost]

anyone got a lone star DML build thats cheap and reliable?

[strange gate]

pre-wipe AK, it surprisingly works better than expected

[whole lotus]

this shit looks awful

[cunning ocean]

Anyone translated the Letter already?

Nvm found it

[restive slate]

what letter?

[sage reef]

yes

[rose bramble]

@dusty mason

[fathom sapphire]

In the announcements

It basically says that Obdolbos has no bad side effects

And can be found on scavs now

[cunning ocean]

Drugs for everyone!

[pure shadow]

odolbos?

[chrome jackal]

t

[fathom sapphire]

obdolbos

"special cocktail" from Daddy Sanitar

[light finch]

lets gooo v1032 for ground branch

for cte altough still hyped

[rapid flower]

so excited for tarkov to wipe directly before my exam week 😁😁😁

[pure shadow]

whats it do exactly

[chrome jackal]

idk

[whole lotus]

I still cant get over the fact sanitar is a cleaning detergent

[scenic charm]

I’m gonna run only M80 early wipe

It’s gonna be op for like 2 weeks

[cosmic fjord]

M80 and scar with 30 rounders hopefully

If it dont get 30s its gonna be a different looking mdr

[light finch]

i just hope they will make it somewhat rare

[prisma crane]

I want them to do that with a lot of guns

[scenic charm]

That I can stick a gl on the bottom of

[cosmic fjord]

Were ubgl ever confirmed for 12.12?

I think if they were it was a while ago so idk if it holds up

Also excited to see new gear. I want some more lvl 5 rigs and lvl 6 armors

[scenic charm]

No idea but theoretically you should be Able to do it

[cosmic fjord]

Yeah they do got the model for the gl and scar so i dont see why not.

[rapid flower]

Yeah I think

[cunning ocean]

guess no HK for moe

[torpid bronze]

good gun

[light finch]

nikita gib trailer

[whole lotus]

what weapon should i use first

[prisma crane]

What ammo and map

[coarse viper]

They aren’t very good

[whole lotus]

customs and m855a1

or igolnik or bp for the aks

[whole lotus]

ye ye but im not a meta player i just mod it so it looks nice

[coarse viper]

That’s for noobs

[prisma crane]

Akm

[whole lotus]

aighty

thanks

[whole lotus]

[prisma crane]

That would make sense if 2 of them weren’t ugly af

[coarse viper]

True lol

All 3 honestly

[prisma crane]

The akm is alright

I’m not a huge fan or the trax but other than that it’s ok

[whole lotus]

whats trax

nvm thx anyways

[kindred hamlet]

ak handguard

[celest drift]

cute little ak 104

[light finch]

104>103

[lunar falcon]

https://i.imgur.com/hIn0vqW.png
rpk op. This ergo with that low recoil

https://i.imgur.com/Q5Y43A8.png
better with thermal

[light finch]

finally a interesting weekly

[bold otter]

NVGs and Thermal???

[light finch]

rewards shit but may actually complete

[lunar falcon]

wdym im not poor

[bold otter]

doesnt matter if you're poor or not, just run REAP-IR and hold right click

[lunar falcon]

I use 45 degree sight and when i want to see far i turn nvg off and reap-ir on

[bold otter]

just put a flashlight on it, and if you use 45 degree you turn it on, no need to spend 150k for useless nvgs, imo

[dense helm]

gonna be abusing mdr vudu from the start lol

or then just farm with mosin to get my sniping level up for m61

[misty tide]

large man

[strange gate]

thats the point super ugly but effective

[prisma crane]

I always thought the 101 was kinda pointless after using it. It’s pretty fun

Having low recoil on an ak with a suppressor is really nice

[coral pelican]

Yeah, being suppressed is nice. Also the mid tier ammo is better than 545. And it's mostly better than 556 mdr

[prisma crane]

I kinda like 40 rounders and the csa rig is amazing for those so I prefer 556 mdr but 101 is still a good gun

[coral pelican]

I also prefer mdr

[prisma crane]

2 40s and a 30 with a csa rig is great

But at like I think 650 rpm 30s are enough a lot of the time

[rapid flower]

i am going to use scav akms and kill many people 😁😁

[coral pelican]

Sometimes I like to use 20's with mdr, usually when mostly sniping. But I always go back to 30's after running out of ammo

[rapid flower]

id never use a 556 gun with less than 30s because you really never have to

[coral pelican]

My logic was, they look nice, I wont need that much ammo, and a free +5-6 ergo is nice. But the 10 extra rounds is very useful

Also 1x1

[rapid flower]

i get nervous using small mags with 556

even using 30s makes me nervous if I have an m4

[coral pelican]

Yeah, higher rof makes big mags more important

[prisma crane]

I’ve used 40s alot recently cause I’m too cheap to buy 100k 60 rounders

[light finch]

40 come out to be a lil expensive because of rigs

i stick to 30 i dont meet a lot of squads

[prisma crane]

Csa rig my guy 2 40s and a 30 work great

[light finch]

meh not a lot of space for other shit

but usable

[scenic charm]

I run the CPC

A drum and 2 40s

[prisma crane]

That works too but I’m a cheap mf

[rapid flower]

Do you have pk3

[prisma crane]

I have all max traders

[light finch]

get redi

come on another 2 minutes

YOO new dmr

g28 always nice to see

[cosmic fjord]

new dmr??? where

[light finch]

1:13

[keen ember]

im hyped

[light finch]

rangefinder is going to be so useful

[cosmic fjord]

is that a hk417

[light finch]

im scared of those impact grenades

[light finch]

g28

its just a cooler 417

[cosmic fjord]

@light finch what about this?

at first i thought mp9 but its a little different

sounds different i think

[light finch]

nah thats mp9

[cosmic fjord]

seems like its got a big mag as well

[light finch]

just a new optic

[cosmic fjord]

new drum mag???

look at the bottom right

[light finch]

ye what

i dont see nothing

[cosmic fjord]

you dont see that?

[light finch]

the finger going spasm mode?

[cosmic fjord]

is that his finger?

[light finch]

ye

[keen ember]

and recoil doesn't seem like mp9

[cosmic fjord]

yes and it sounds different

way different im gonna have to research into this and see if there is something similiar to an mp9

[light finch]

thats 100% an mp9

look at that rear sight

[night iron]

OVERHEATING SUPPRESSOR AND BOLT JAM BTW

[cosmic fjord]

i know it looks like one with the rear sight, but just listen to its sound masny

[rapid flower]

Fuck I hope those impact nades have really low base dmg

[light finch]

idk sounds pretty similar to me

[cosmic fjord]

wait that new nade was an impact nade?

[night iron]

Yeah

[cosmic fjord]

oh fuck no nikita remove that shit

[light finch]

i dont use mp9's often tho so im not sure the sound is the smae

[prisma crane]

They are going to be really expensive that’s what they will be.

[night iron]

Rgo grenade apparently @cosmic fjord

[scenic charm]

looks like a 416 to me

[keen ember]

pls remove that lol

[scenic charm]

also WHERES MY SCAR H

[keen ember]

GIB SCAR H

[light finch]

g28 look at the end of the hanguard and it got its signature scope

[rapid flower]

imagine they don’t give us scar

[cosmic fjord]

scar h might not have been in trailer buts its confirmed in 12.12, last pic we got of it is named 12.12

there was the scar in the trailer though i didnt check which caliber tho

[rapid flower]

No that’s an mp9

[dapper sail]

Never seen this before. Is this new?

[prisma crane]

Considering the fact we already have a 2 second fuse nade and combining that with travel time and reaction time I would say impact nades are probably not going to be worth it on most maps

[rapid flower]

maybe mp9n cuz it’s diff color

[rapid flower]

Pdc dust cover

[cosmic fjord]

ye it is mp9, i just never heard it unsuppressed outdoors

[lunar falcon]

There was scar h in trailer?

[scenic charm]

556

However

[night iron]

No that's old

[scenic charm]

inertia with impact nades? sheesh nikitas got some balls

[light finch]

impact nades are gonna be op as fuck

[cosmic fjord]

this is gonna be fun to fight in

[light finch]

maybe if the explosion radius is smaller than normal nades

[scenic charm]

it is

[light finch]

but bsg will still somehow screw up and rgo's will be meta

[cosmic fjord]

if it doesnt one shot im ok with it i guess

def shouldnt one shot idc if its not realistic, for balance sake

[scenic charm]

dumps insurance in the sewage, sends prapor's minions to swim in a sea of shit for it

[cosmic fjord]

not gonna lie the scar here looks very low quality

why is it so smooth???

[light finch]

its cuz of the lightning

[cosmic fjord]

i hope so because that shits unnatural as fuck

[light finch]

that scene looks like its not even tarkov

[rapid flower]

That scene looks so weird

[cosmic fjord]

sadly i did not see any new gear

[rapid flower]

another map to get 100m headshots on!! So excited!

[light finch]

i want to see some plate carriers with lvl3 plates so i can larp on a budget

[cosmic fjord]

they should replace customs with this map for shooter, i always have problems finding 100+ kills on customs

[rapid flower]

Would b nice

[prisma crane]

Extract camp

[rapid flower]

there’s like 2 places to get 100m shots on customs

[lunar zenith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910790288547647498/918597471855317002/unknown.png

[cosmic fjord]

also new big scope

[lunar zenith]

best thing in the whole trailer tbh is the rangefinder

[light finch]

ngl lighthouse looks a little chaotic

[lunar zenith]

it does and i dig it

it also looks fucking enormous, theres so many different areas that are very different to eachother

[light finch]

ye its gonna take me some time to get used to it

[cosmic fjord]

https://www.optics-world.nl/winkel/product_info.php?products_id=1419&language=de

[light finch]

i was honestly expecting to see a 417 first and g28 later

but oh well thats bsg for you

[lunar zenith]

i was already looking forward to the wipe but after watching the trailer and seeing how many more new things there are, im p excited

[light finch]

doing unexpected and unasked shit

[lunar zenith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910790288547647498/918597241525141504/unknown.png

also, face paint?

[light finch]

that g28 scope looks crisp tho

[halcyon pike]

so what are the guns that we're getting?

[light finch]

a lot in short

[cosmic fjord]

scar h, scar l, usp .45, double barrel, revolver shotgun, g28. and maybe more

[lunar zenith]

SCAR H and SCAR L
Revolver shotgun
Double barrel shotgun
HK USP
G28

[light finch]

and maybe some surprise pew pews

[halcyon pike]

what's the G28

[light finch]

but im hyped for a shit ton of new attachments

[halcyon pike]

I forgor

[cosmic fjord]

@halcyon pike 308 dmr

[lunar zenith]

yeah the attachments are what im most looking forward to

[cosmic fjord]

@halcyon pike https://www.heckler-koch.com/en/products/military/precision-rifles/g28/g28/overview.html

[light finch]

417 reskin

[cosmic fjord]

this is the new vortex

[halcyon pike]

not half bad

[light finch]

its low power right

[cosmic fjord]

1-6x

[light finch]

noice

[lunar zenith]

looks like the new sig optic that the us military is getting

[prisma crane]

I hope the eye shadow isn’t too bad when shooting

[scenic charm]

without full auto

[scenic charm]

no

[scenic charm]

thats the one they tested with for the MCX Spear but the actual one they are getting is a computerized optic

[scenic charm]

so you are right and wrong

[cosmic fjord]

this dot is awful lmao

[lunar zenith]

lvl1 optic moment

[scenic charm]

ik what it is but its not the one that goes with the NGSW bid

[prisma crane]

The dot ain’t bad the housing is

[light finch]

ye but its prolly gonna cost 3 roubles and a snickers bar

[cosmic fjord]

ye ik that makes it bad

[scenic charm]

pretty sure that was the standard issued one a while back

[cosmic fjord]

def facepaint

[lunar zenith]

yeah

[cosmic fjord]

def an extract

[lunar zenith]

that'll be cool, wonder how it'll work

[light finch]

cant wait for the edge lords to wear skull facepaint

[rose bramble]

HK

[lunar zenith]

did anyone spot any actual new clothing

i feel like i saw a lot of new clothes

but it might've just been them running around with all the endgame clothes that we already have

[light finch]

most likely there are some

[cosmic fjord]

new flashbang, finally a western one

[light finch]

isnt that a shmoke

[lunar zenith]

new grenade too, looked like a straight impact

dude throws it a few seconds after this image and it blows up almost immediately after hitting the container

[light finch]

rgo more like rgOP

[cosmic fjord]

@light finch maybe but idk why hed throw a smoke there, so im guessing a flash

[odd plank]

that's an M18 smoke nade by the looks of it

[light finch]

thats not m18

[cosmic fjord]

no m18 is very smooth

[light finch]

it has a weird top

probably a flash then

[light finch]

very similar if not the same

[cosmic fjord]

fbg-6

[odd plank]

its porb that then

[cosmic fjord]

or this one

[light finch]

3.5 sec delay is a lot for a flash tho

[scenic charm]

@rose bramble how pissed is leanyee about stamina

[cosmic fjord]

id be fine with it, zarya for short fuze and this for long fuse

[rose bramble]

hasnt said anything

but i'm all for inertia

[scenic charm]

lmk if he rants lol

[rose bramble]

Shift + W must die as a shift W player myself

[scenic charm]

no more breaking the sound barriers and doing backflips wearing an altyn and a zabralo

[rose bramble]

yep, good

[scenic charm]

I agree, better for me as a camper

[light finch]

🦀 bunny hop is gone 🦀

[rose bramble]

hopefully the wipe after this we get reworked recoil system

mods shouldnt affect gun that much

[scenic charm]

I want bipods to work

[cosmic fjord]

shift w isnt going anywhere lul, chads will always shit on rats

[rose bramble]

Not using Shift + W doesnt make you a rat

it just makes you a non ADHD gamer

[cosmic fjord]

i hate people who want aggresive playstle out.... why would you want only 1 effective playstyle?

@scenic charm there it is

[light finch]

because there was suppossed to be only 1 effective playstyle

[rose bramble]

i think running out into the open like a dumbass should have more severe consequences

than it does

[prisma crane]

Looks as smooth as my brain

[cosmic fjord]

ratting is hella effective in this game, aggresive is very effective as well. it makes 2 playstyles. makes the game more varied and interesting.

[dapper sail]

I do both depending on how much money I have lmao

[scenic charm]

ABSOLUTELY SEEXXX

[cosmic fjord]

seems to have VERY low ergo unfortunetly

[rose bramble]

ratting is not that effective

only vs shitters mostly

[prisma crane]

I do both depending on how fed up with this game I am

[dapper sail]

Lmfao

[frail vector]

there shouldn’t be chadding as how it is now. when inertia comes out there will still be chads but it will be based a lot more on outsmarting your enemy rather than “i run fast shoot first i win”

[scenic charm]

Im fine with that

[rose bramble]

^^

[frail vector]

inertia will change the game completely. it will create the playerbase

it’s too fast rn for what it wants to be

[rose bramble]

It will drive a lot of COD kids

away, but that's fine

[cosmic fjord]

im not fine with 0-20 ergo for a gun that was made to be more ergo based. so if its possible to get decent ergo while not making it go to the sky when it shoots then im good with it

[frail vector]

inertia coming out will define the game

imo

[cosmic fjord]

the game is nothing like fucking cod.... fucking idiots man

[frail vector]

i’m excited for it i hope they don’t have it shit when it first comes out lol

[cosmic fjord]

id go play cod if i wanted to play cod

[frail vector]

the game isn’t like cod, but people compare it because of how fast you can go

[prisma crane]

To be fair that suppressor is like -26 ergo and that forgrip isn’t the highest ergo out there

[frail vector]

it definitely isn’t like cod but it’s too fast

like a cod game lol

[light finch]

exacktli

[cosmic fjord]

i think its very good atm, real life operations with special forces can be fast and crazy. sure no bunnyhopping and shit but that will be addressed later.

[rose bramble]

this movement atm is too broken with desync

inertia should help out

[cosmic fjord]

have you guys never seen combat footage, people get moving pretty damn fast. and shoot LOTS of bullets

[frail vector]

irl has inertia lol. fast and crazy doesn’t mean using vaseline then jumping off a 2 story building and hip firing 2 guys

[cosmic fjord]

im not against inertia btw

[frail vector]

i know

[cosmic fjord]

i just hope its not more than irl

[frail vector]

i get what your point is and i definitely agree

i hope they just don’t have inertia really shitty

[cosmic fjord]

tarkov does seem to overdramatize things like the weight system when it came out

[scenic charm]

intertia helps with corner peaking cheaters i think

[frail vector]

if you’ve ever played zero hour i hope it isn’t like that. the game feels so shitty to play

their inertia is horrible

[hardy sedge]

it also still overdramatizes things today such as what an altyn can stop

[frail vector]

for balancing

[scenic charm]

is that the vr one

[frail vector]

no

[cosmic fjord]

@hardy sedge that actually makes sense for gameplay though

[frail vector]

if helmets were realistic no one would use them

[cosmic fjord]

^

[scenic charm]

no the helmets are fine, just the russian ones

[frail vector]

altyn can’t even stop ss190

[prisma crane]

That’s zero caliber

[cosmic fjord]

and i think its cool having hella tough helmets

[hardy sedge]

Yeah, it’s necessary overdramatization, like how realistically nobody on this earth uses a 100 rounder

[frail vector]

lmao

tactical 100 rounder

[cosmic fjord]

big mags should stay. nobody uses mk47 mutants in combat but its still in game you know?

[scenic charm]

Bastion is realistic, vulkan is realistic, all the high cut tac helmets are fine so is the ulach

the worst offenders for helmets are just the russian tin bucket series

[toxic topaz]

When helmets were first added they had realistic damage stats. Everybody hated it.

[keen ember]

how did it work?

[prisma crane]

Probably not well

[scenic charm]

RysT Altyn, Kiver, LZSH and the ZSH are all terrible

[cosmic fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlEC5viWQ1c lmao watch this video from forever ago, helmets were even better than now by 100x. go to 1:45

[keen ember]

my english is bad, i meant like how does the system work

[scenic charm]

cant forget the fucking maska

[toxic topaz]

The best helms I think had up to class 3 armor iirc

[keen ember]

wouldn't that be useless?

[scenic charm]

thats realistic tho

[toxic topaz]

Yes. That was the problem.

[hardy sedge]

Once again, necessary realism. There’s 100s and 75 rounders if people want to use them, and since people do want to use them they can’t just make them intentionally useless

[frail vector]

the game is realistic. they don’t want a game that is literally real life. they want something that is playable and somewhat enjoyable. this isn’t a war where you have assigned weapons and gear. you are a mercenary abandoned by your government. tarkov is a very unique game

[keen ember]

and useless, so might as well no added if it was just gonna be t3

[hardy sedge]

Realistic as playable is something they said at one point

[frail vector]

many times

[rose bramble]

armors are kind of underpowered in comparison though

yes helmets are not realistic but neither are armor vests

[cosmic fjord]

ye true level 6 gost can eat m61

[scenic charm]

oxide moment

[cosmic fjord]

wait is that a hera arms on the scar?

[prisma crane]

Guys we have stims that just flat out stop you from fucking bleeding instantly anywhere the game is realistic but still has developmental decisions to make it slightly more of a game than a simulation

[scenic charm]

looks like an RK series to me

[keen ember]

does 993 have better pen irl?

[cosmic fjord]

i think so, it also got stopped by gost 6 but i dont think it usually does

[light finch]

i want armors to stop more so fights are longer

[frail vector]

i didn’t even notice this. i wasnt aware scar h had 6 inch m-lok guides

[hardy sedge]

Necessary unrealism at it’s finest is displayed by like literally any painkiller in the game

[frail vector]

lmfao

vaseline makes me invincible irl wym it’s unrealistic

[keen ember]

is 993 legal?

[light finch]

how did they even come up with vaseline being a pain killer

[hardy sedge]

Ibu and analgin take 30 minutes to kick in, morphine makes you a noncombatant, good luck running with a broken leg that has vaseline on it, propital doesnt exist

[frail vector]

no

[scenic charm]

depends because m61 and m993 same thing as m995 are intended to improve lethality against occupants of thin skinned vehicles like APCs, not against body armor

[prisma crane]

Ah shit I forgot I was missing an arm cause I ate some random tablets I found in a war zone

[frail vector]

not for civilians

[cosmic fjord]

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/parts-ammo-accessories/ammo-military/7-62-armor-piercing-m993-.cfm?gun_id=100977852 i guess so

[frail vector]

found it

[cosmic fjord]

god i love america 🦅 😎

[keen ember]

55$ per bullet that sounds right

[scenic charm]

thats only for civie retail because they are rare

[light finch]

if only the prices were the same in tarkov lol

[keen ember]

that'd be so expensive lmao

[dapper sail]

Terra group just improved drugs

[scenic charm]

they arnt that expensive to manufacturee

worst offender for unrealism is easily the bosses, reshala is the only realistic one

[cosmic fjord]

well they are bosses so im fine with it, its a game after all

[scenic charm]

but you dont just tank 30 7.62x51 rounds and run off

[cosmic fjord]

they cant tank 30, they die hella fast to 308

[scenic charm]

also the maska, I HATE THE MASKA cant stop ss190 irl stops m61

[light finch]

ye and therefore rarer, ap ammo should be a situational thing not an everyday norm like it is now

[cosmic fjord]

it doesnt stop m61

[scenic charm]

slight exaggeration for theatrics purpose

[scenic charm]

m62

[cosmic fjord]

also id hope it would stop good bullets considering you cant see

[scenic charm]

mistype

also M855A1

[cosmic fjord]

eh its pretty shit you cant see and its only level 4 on top

[coarse viper]

found another large ppsh user

i am the better ppsh user

[prisma crane]

Zagustine is the worst offender for me personally

[scenic charm]

still unrealistic

very unrealistic

[cosmic fjord]

games not realistic, if any game was realistic no one would play it because it would be BORING AS SHIT

[scenic charm]

if its slightly unrealistic im fien

[scenic charm]

if class 4 faceshield fine

[hardy sedge]

For me it’s morphine, morphine is a literal opioid. You are not shooting or hell even running while on morphine

[scenic charm]

class 6 faceshield can suck my dick

[light finch]

what about arma and squad

[scenic charm]

both kinda unrealistic

i played both, arma is just a matter of age

[light finch]

ye but one of the most realistic

[hardy sedge]

You wouldn’t be able to heal in raid in a fully realistic game, you just gotta wait a couple days

[light finch]

and still a lot of people play it

[cosmic fjord]

and it doesnt have many players and is not 100% realistic

[scenic charm]

which is exactly why theres a very limited subset of people playing arma

[prisma crane]

I feel like just magically stopping all bleeding and preventing you from any further bleeds is worse than someone fighting on morphine

[light finch]

arma community is not that small

[cosmic fjord]

also the rangefinder is in meters not football fields im crying

[scenic charm]

i just wish bsg can let people make mods like Squad or DayZ, there would be something for everyone

[light finch]

git gud amerikanski

[scenic charm]

Bald eagles / RPM x Gallons of fast food/mile

[prisma crane]

It’s not in fucking gallons per hour literally shaking rn

[light finch]

after release maybe

[scenic charm]

rn they are reducing all discussion on emutarkov

[bold otter]

Anyone knows the new scope on the P90?

[light finch]

but idk they have a weird policy with mods, but i suppose its because of the game being in beta

[scenic charm]

if we just let those guys do what they do best we can easily have 10 fold more content, something for any kind of players, free publicity and practically ensures the longevity of the game

[hardy sedge]

Well propital also doesnt exist like zagustin, and it’s both a painkiller and literal HEALTH REGEN and since it’s injected we can assume it’s not only morphine and magical health regeneration

[light finch]

but then again they are semi ok with data miners

[hardy sedge]

but having a debate over fictional medical items is stupid

[scenic charm]

they are very strict with them

still if they would just allow modmakers we can have a hayday

[light finch]

yep i saw what people do for sptarkov and its cool

addons for it and shit

[cosmic fjord]

ye but its like bannable to use it even though you have to have a bought copy with it

[scenic charm]

more guns, more realism or less realism depending on whatever, maps, health systems in whatever direction, as much or as little hud, vehicles, maps

[cosmic fjord]

mods in this discord take it down if you post any content from it

[scenic charm]

again its their game but still i think its a bad move to completely shut down anything to do with mods

[cosmic fjord]

esp when it takes them months to add anything but takes these modders not long at all

[light finch]

id just wait for them to release the game and add mod support so they dont get overwhelmed

[prisma crane]

Took them like a year sense they first posted wip scar photos

[cosmic fjord]

also lighthouse seems to be massive with lots of points of interests. seems to me like a shoreline but 10x better

i feel like it will play like a bigger reserve

[prisma crane]

Not that hard to make a better shoreline

[cosmic fjord]

ye but 10x better is pretty good

[light finch]

did they say how big it is

[prisma crane]

It looks big

Probably is big

[light finch]

a lot is going on in this map so i hope its not small

[prisma crane]

Im just hoping for fishing

[light finch]

i want to catch frogs in that sewer pools

[scenic charm]

its supposed to be long and narrow

[light finch]

it doesnt look really narrow in the trailer

[scenic charm]

well we will see