irl-weapons

[golden marlin]

Just get a ak

Galils are extremely overrated

[wooden frigate]

Idk, I bought this POS

Overgassed, no bolt hold open

[wheat frost]

Damn kill me

[modest hatch]

I honestly don't know much about them outside of the development history of them and how they are now.

[golden marlin]

The standard galil is a downgraded ak

Packed full of features that are useless with wondering handguards

Shit mags that are all over the place

In fitment

A rear sight that you can pull off zero since it's mounted to the dust cover

The ace is better but the controls are dog shit

Idk how people consider it better than a standard ak when most people over torque the fuck out of the barrel increasing wear to the bolt and lugs of the receiver

[modest hatch]

So some faults in design/production/user error

[golden marlin]

Faults and tons of errors

Like out of 5 mags

You can have 2 that work

[modest hatch]

Ew

[golden marlin]

Like your best option for aftermarket

Is promag

And promag is not a good option

[wooden frigate]

Jeez

[golden marlin]

Because no one fucking makes shit for the pos

Or you do a ar mag conversion

[wooden frigate]

This is fixable… just needs a mk16 rail, A5 tube, and suppressor… i think

[modest hatch]

At that point you might as well get an AR

[golden marlin]

Yep

[wooden frigate]

And 3x replacement bolts

And adjustable gas block

[round sentinel]

gayssele rail

Go get a quad like a man

[wooden frigate]

Long ass quad dude

[modest hatch]

Oh I did take my mystery brand AR out and it's pretty neat. For roughly $900 I'm quite happy. Might put a better trigger in it.

[round sentinel]

And?

More quad more better or something

[wooden frigate]

So heavy 😢

[round sentinel]

You will never meet my 11.5 in weight

[wooden frigate]

Lets see it

[round sentinel]

Even with a full length quad and a chunky scope

[round sentinel]

She’s over 15 pounds as a 11.5

[wooden frigate]

Oh

[modest hatch]

Wtf

[round sentinel]

Lmao

[wooden frigate]

That’s a heifer

[modest hatch]

My surplus rifles look light now

[round sentinel]

Yeah. Colt IAR moment

Phenomenal uppers but they are chunky

Just the barrel is like 5 pounds or something stupid

[wooden frigate]

Goodness me

[round sentinel]

My 10.5 bullpup isn’t that far behind, it’ll prob be 14 pounds with the machined rail

It was 13 with the vudu 3-9 on it

I haven’t measured with the razor

[wooden frigate]

I bet it shoots nice though with the extra weight

[round sentinel]

The IAR doesn’t move

The bullpup ofc doesn’t either

Fuckin offhand lmao

[wooden frigate]

Maybe weight isn’t so bad

[round sentinel]

It’s really not

I’m one of the smallest built people here and I run some of the heavier guns without issue 😭

[golden marlin]

It's not that heavy

Quad rails are just better

[lone moss]

Such a low cyclic rate

[round sentinel]

It’s peak

[lone moss]

White bread slowed mine down a bit, so much less gas now

[vast isle]

ay get me hip with a ak

IF i was looking to get one

[golden marlin]

Just buy a wbp or wasr

[vast isle]

also pistol grip fwd grips are cursed

[golden marlin]

It's peak

[misty cove]

wbp better

[unique fjord]

Yugo better

Or FB

[scenic jetty]

they had these uppers in stock but then sold out in like an hour

[round sentinel]

Kek

[golden marlin]

It's not

Yugo is mid

[unique fjord]

Wasr/Wbp are barebone entry

[golden marlin]

So is yugo except yugo has a worse spec and most of them have nitrided barrels

And they tend to have slightly softer metal

[round sentinel]

Wdym you don’t want a barebones comparable AK with lesser features because it has a different name of origin

Smh

[golden marlin]

FB also is wbp

Wbp is literally a subsidiary of FB radom

[golden marlin]

Mmm yes give me a rifle with a trunnion that's overrated that's been cobbled together so I can have my war larp because some dude was drinking from a bottle the wrong way

[round sentinel]

Also no. That’s not true

FB is the federally subsidized company

[unique fjord]

Fb still smidge better. Chrome beats Wbp nitride. But irrc wbp starting to offer some with fb chrome barrels

[round sentinel]

WBP is a private arms company that consisted of some FB people

They are distinct entities

[golden marlin]

Nevermind FB makes the barrels allegedly

Cause I knew they had ties

Or at one point did

[golden marlin]

Wbp chrome lines their 7.62 barrels

It's the 556 they dont

[proven hearth]

Wasrs are perfectly fine lol. Id take a wasr over a yugo every day of the week ngl.

[scenic jetty]

you can get the draco if you wanna do an ak104 at home

[summer plover]

That's the best way I've heard the bottle incident described

[golden marlin]

The fact that is what kicked off the war is fucking crazy

A bottle up someone's ass

[misty cove]

lmao

[misty cove]

well its quite the way to spark outrage

[golden marlin]

Real

Yugo fans are literally just the furries of the ak community

[misty cove]

fact check true

polish aks are best

[hushed salmon]

@golden marlin did youp see Italy's new Beretta AR rifle

[blazing temple]

Mfw I come home from work and mom and dad are fighting

[round sentinel]

LMAO

[golden marlin]

Yeah

It doesn't look hideous

Did you see that Spaceballs 2 finally got fully announced

[blazing temple]

Is the divorce going to be my fault?

[golden marlin]

It's gonna be called spaceballs 2

The new one

He had to tell everyone that it won't be called the search for more money

Cause he found money already

[round sentinel]

Yes

[round sentinel]

No way lol

[golden marlin]

It did mel Brooks made the announcement

And showed that the money was in the Spaceballs the money bag

[blazing temple]

I will run away and live with uncle cannoli

[round sentinel]

Based

[unique fjord]

Space balls 2 before gta6

[golden marlin]

I need a spaceballs the t shirt and space balls the hoodie

[scenic jetty]

That an interesting description

[round sentinel]

WW4 before spaceballs

[round sentinel]

It’s super accurate

[golden marlin]

Its very accurate both sides love to talk about bulges

[scenic jetty]

I just don’t think I’ve ever heard someone call it that lol

[unique fjord]

If that happens send in the shadow Dorito

[round sentinel]

Which one

[scenic jetty]

[unique fjord]

Thicc and dangerous

insert f1nn ak pic

[round sentinel]

Ope

[unique fjord]

[blazing temple]

Didn't he get psyoped all the way down the path?

[round sentinel]

Not psyoped, just genuinely felt that way and was never internalized it prolly

[proven hearth]

Idk about yall but im still salty with rockstar with them abandoning rdr2 online. I wont be buying gta6 because of that.

[round sentinel]

I’m about so say

Abandoned it already?

[proven hearth]

It's been abandoned for years at this point

[round sentinel]

And then realized it’s like a 8 year old game by now

If not a bit older

[blazing temple]

Rdr2 online wasn't even good enough to make me sad

They never did enough with it in the first place for me to care to be upset about the unrealized potential

[proven hearth]

All because 12 year olds weren't buying the equivalent to sharkcards.

[blazing temple]

Also its r* so I don't have to worry about buying it

[proven hearth]

See that's what im most upset about, the lack of them even trying to make the online as good as it deserved to be. The story was fucking outstanding, they had so much potential with the online mode.

[blazing temple]

It will be on consoles for at least a year then probably need another year of patches after it comes to pc

So I got plenty of time before I even consider buying it

[round sentinel]

Honestly I couldn’t even get far into RDR2, because of just how fucking dense it is

[blazing temple]

The story?

[round sentinel]

That and gunplay is well, a rockstar game

[round sentinel]

Yeah

[proven hearth]

The story was spectacular imo

[round sentinel]

As in literal content

[blazing temple]

It's a good story but I uh

[round sentinel]

There’s just so fucking much to the point of being a bit over whelming

Not that it’s a bad thing at all

[blazing temple]

I kinda ruined it by liking the world too much so I would be gone from camp for like a month at a time

[round sentinel]

LOL

[blazing temple]

The only reason I left chapter 2? Was because I was tired of not having access to my falling block

[round sentinel]

Kek

[unique fjord]

Even when rdr2 came out no one really played online imo

[blazing temple]

And then I started playing online with my cousin and got too used to having the navy revolvers and a scoped bolt action and everything else felt like ass

[round sentinel]

I sentence you to only running the Fn 1900

[blazing temple]

I can't even remember what the bolty was

Not the carcano just the normal one

Was it a krag?

[round sentinel]

I’d assume so

[blazing temple]

Yeah I think it was now that I'm trying to remember

[round sentinel]

A Lee Navy would’ve been could to be in the game

Or early Mausers

[thorny flame]

https://x.com/ScaarAT/status/2047381580344160440?s=20 @echo cairn

[echo cairn]

I think those are cool, but I'm going for a drop in mp5 frt eventually

[unique fjord]

Ayo Aug got a new color

[thorny flame]

the nightfighter guns, been a thing for a bit

[unique fjord]

Let me enjoy

[thorny flame]

kind of a cursed package

[unique fjord]

Need to ditch the integrated scope

[thorny flame]

yeah that's what i don't get, they sell the M3s

[unique fjord]

Thing is phat and so 1965

[thorny flame]

so why spec them with the scope

esp if you're issuing them to dudes with night vision

[unique fjord]

Maybe the Chinese can use it to copy a new qbz95 clone from it like they did with the og aug

[thorny flame]

even the chinese dropped the bullpups lmao

[round sentinel]

And it’s somehow uglier than the normal Aug

[thorny flame]

@round sentinel

they're trying to shop them around to everyone it seems

[round sentinel]

They are such cool cans

[unique fjord]

I hope this burns

[fringe prawn]

shes beautiful

[golden marlin]

@round sentinel why does that look like the screenshot I took earlier today that I sent you

Wait no

I didnt include the music mute

I still hate it

[round sentinel]

Cause it is lol

[thorny flame]

just post the original

[unique fjord]

Bros upset about a stolen cropped picture from instagram

[modest hatch]

I'm not sure if the 5 round extension made it more or less proportional

[unique fjord]

Bro sees into the future with that

[modest hatch]

More the future runs into it

[golden marlin]

Not really. I just thought it was funny

Because I literally like an hour before you posted that sent the exact same thing to Neko

So I literally just thought a full loop just came back to this chat from it being reposted

It's not that deep bro

[unique fjord]

Well it’s not even a response to you so

[golden marlin]

Consider

[unique fjord]

[fringe prawn]

bro doesn’t even need ammo he just can hit people with the gun itself

[modest hatch]

it is 5ft in length so yeah

[grizzled oriole]

anyone else have a side folder ak?

with triangle stock*

[grizzled oriole]

lol psa customer photos kill me

[timid belfry]

as much as i like to goof on PSA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufG7UYaywGo

this is pretty cool

although doubling production means more QC slips

but i guess you can RMA during an AWB, but you can't buy a new one

[proven hearth]

I just despise them as a company after my experience with them.

[fringe prawn]

Like they care considering they'll be selling twice the the shit to WV after the ban lmao

The amount of upper sales in WV. Those gun dealers are about to see more money than they've ever seen in their lives

[timid belfry]

i mean i wont buy their shit, but i would if i couldnt get anything else

[grizzled oriole]

ive only had good experiences with them

my 5.45 krink is almost to 700 rounds without even cleaning it from the factory and hasnt had a single hiccup yet
my 5.56 ar (upper) is probably close to 1200 rounds and I have only had a 2 fte and it was due to a new buffer system that was remedied with a flaming pig flash hider

the ak is like, keyholing at 50yds 10% of the time, but its a fun blaster, the ar with a 3x power prism optic I get solid <2moa at 100yds

[red salmon]

I kinda wanna spend the money to upgrade my pioneer and make it a bit better, replace the gas block, trunnion’s, make it a bit better

Or secondary option, get a parts kit and use the pioneer as a surrogate and build a better ak

[round sentinel]

Best option: sell it and get a better ak

[scenic shuttle]

looks like the crackhouse mission in ready or not lol

[upbeat basin]

I really want them to just add a 3x micro magnifier so I can run my m4 with the uh-1

[fathom dragon]

Lick it up

[plush warren]

I snorted that shit like Colombian bam bam and now I am getting my load data directly from the voice of god

This shit ain’t nothin to me man

[fathom dragon]

Hahahahha

[golden marlin]

Let me guess PSA

[scenic jetty]

I need a rifle round reloader

I have a shotgun one though

[golden marlin]

I'm still trying to get the Hornady one set up for 300

[plush warren]

Man I checked the prices on basic birdshot and honestly I can see why you load it that shits expensive now. Last time I bought it Ts was $70 a flat

As for rifle reloading if you’re doing low volume I will always shill for the Forster coax it’s goated

[fleet raft]

Guns are bad mkay

[echo cairn]

Then just dont buy one

[tired aurora]

wrong channel buddy

[golden marlin]

Just buy a turtle

[fleet raft]

Ill ddef buy a turtle

[fleet raft]

im jk btw i use to chat in here eveyday. i have a safe full of gguns

[golden marlin]

Lots of fals from what I remember

[fleet raft]

how you been sebby?

[golden marlin]

Tired

Busy

[fleet raft]

busy is good tiedd not so much

[golden marlin]

But hey

I have a loading bench now

[tired aurora]

new name then? don't recognize the name or pfp

[fleet raft]

not a new name just been probably over a year oor soo

possibly even 2-3

[tired aurora]

oh okay fair

[fleet raft]

indeeds. I started playig tarkov again and looked at the ddiscord again and hadd to check in on the ol gun guun chat

people usually post some of the coolest shit in here

[tired aurora]

Meh compared to some here mine is poverty tier

[fleet raft]

i feel you on that. Most of my money goes to family stuff and not guns lmfaoo

[misty cove]

my condolences

[golden marlin]

Because I apparently posted too much stuff to show off the table development. I got muted so

Here's the current setup

I'm converting 223 and 556 brass into 300

Blkout

[carmine tide]

The amount of people who call asking for 300 blackout brass bc they can only find 5.56/.223 give me a headache

[golden marlin]

Just go to harbor freight and get yourself a little mini cut off saw

That you can literally just use the die itself to form the brass to shape

Cuts down the cost quite a bit

Getting to about like 30 Something cents a round for 300

I'm going to hopefully start getting this going by next week

[carmine tide]

Youd think reloaders would know this

[golden marlin]

With 11 grains of powder for a 220 grain projectile

[carmine tide]

Especially since there are MANUALS that tell you to do that

[golden marlin]

It's a little more complicated

There's actually an entire list of compatible brass that works the best

But it works

[carmine tide]

I dont even reload and ik you modify 5.56 brass

[golden marlin]

It's literally the same BCG

[carmine tide]

And mags

[golden marlin]

Yep

[carmine tide]

We get dipshits calling asking "why did I get a 556 mag"

Bc youre a smooth brain who doesnt research fuck all

[golden marlin]

They do technically make 300 blackout mags or slightly shaped differently just to help with feeding

But like you can get away with a 556

The people buying 300 blackout mags specifically mostly do it for making a mag look more distinctively different

But like if you want to do that just go to Ace hardware and pick up like some red or blue electrical tape

[carmine tide]

Oh i thought they were just rebranded 556 mags

[golden marlin]

Slightly different

Not by much but yeah

[round sentinel]

Some subs will struggle with normal 556 mags. That’s the big issue

Supers don’t care almost at all from what I’ve seen and experienced

[golden marlin]

Maybe I'll experience it with 220 grain but also I'm not using really flat nose ammo which I can see that really affecting it when you get into hollow points and flat nose

The same thing happens with Glock mags

[fleet raft]

thats sick af ❤️ ive always wanted to get into ammo making but its kinda a lot it seems

[round sentinel]

Yeah I had issues with the 220’s and especially the Hornady open style almost flat nose

[fleet raft]

i diddnt even know thats all you had to do. wild af

[golden marlin]

We'll see how the I think the Brand's name is Dylan or something does

[golden marlin]

Oh yeah, like I'll be probably making some containers to separate good brass and bad brass

Because any of the stuff that is not the most compatible I can just go and use for 556

[tired aurora]

yeeeh MKE MP5SD, HK MR223 and a generic striker fired pistol.

[fleet raft]

I love Hk I wish I had more of there stuff.

[unique fjord]

Yep bud just got lead poisoning

[scenic jetty]

I have a good amount of 7n6

[golden marlin]

I hope you know it's not really a steel core round

Or a proper one technically

[golden marlin]

Same I got one case and I don't plan to get more

[true mist]

new AK parts painted 😁 going to zero tomorrow and then I finally get to use it in a match on sunday

I havent been shooting since january thanks to my motorcycle accident, Im happy to finally get out again

[fallen epoch]

Oh I know

[plush warren]

I use .300BO specific ones in mine because they feed a little better, but that’s incredibly ymmv

But the cal specific mags let me feed 190gr sub x as well as 220gr SMK’s beautifully

[plush warren]

MKE gang MKE gang

[echo cairn]

Imagine liking turkey

Ham is vastly superior

[tired aurora]

See the Germans don't wanna sell a civi legal SD

[echo cairn]

Turkey doesn't either

[tired aurora]

They do

I literally own one

[echo cairn]

A true sd or tucking a can under a handguard

[tired aurora]

@plush warren @fleet raft

My humble scrapping

[plush warren]

Nice! Mines a normal ass ap5 with an omega 9k

[tired aurora]

Ported barrel, full length can, proper factory sd

I feed it the cheapest 147g 9mm steel shit I can get

[plush warren]

Love this thing

[echo cairn]

That came from Mke like that? Imported from century?

[tired aurora]

Yep. Straight from factory to the dealer I got it from.

[plush warren]

Can under handguard is still better than what HK does (nothing)

[tired aurora]

Same.

[echo cairn]

Not a true sd tho

[tired aurora]

It's soi much fun to shoot

[thorny flame]

well they just sell you an MP5k

[echo cairn]

Send me a link

[tired aurora]

Gl importing it (I'm europoor)

[thorny flame]

big velocity doesn't want you to know this but

[tired aurora]

But I can send if you want

[thorny flame]

you can use a short barrel instead of a regarded ported SD setup

[plush warren]

Who cares? If it matters that much get an RCM SD barrel and hit up a gunsmith

[echo cairn]

I do. Calling a tucked cab is factually wrong

[thorny flame]

it's a better setup

[echo cairn]

Ahhhhhhh that's the issue. Yeah we don't get those here

[tired aurora]

Ye MKE sells factory SDs to Europe. HK refuses to

[plush warren]

Please use proper English if you’re gonna be a tist for specifics

[thorny flame]

HK will sell guns to everyone but americans

it's very funny

[echo cairn]

Or?

[tired aurora]

Only way to get a factor HK SD is if some lucky fer finds it for surpluses from LEO/Army

[thorny flame]

you can build them, the kits are out there

but it is just not worth it man

[plush warren]

Or people will take you less seriously than the thing you insist on taking seriously

[tired aurora]

No no it will sell to every criminal and Leo just just not civi

[echo cairn]

I don't insist on you taking it seriously. It's just literally incorrect

[thorny flame]

the run that silencerco did was actually pretty nice with DT

[plush warren]

Fun fact: any supressed mp5 is an mp5SD becausr it’s SuppresseD

[tired aurora]

Not worth it in EU since barrel/bolt is the controlled part.
Not the lower.

[thorny flame]

these with the specific omega can

doesn't really get better than that

[plush warren]

Idk man it’s literally called an ap5sd on the website that’s about as true as it gets

[tired aurora]

That looks great ngl

[echo cairn]

Okay bud

[plush warren]

Sexy! I love my omega 9k :>

Does great with 147’s

[thorny flame]

this was the mp5sd specific can they made for those guns

[echo cairn]

Have you seen the one with the milkman?

[plush warren]

I know I just really like talking about the omega 9k, I love silencerco

[thorny flame]

yeah

tbh the one i'm curious about tho

is the KAC release

i have not seen or heard those though

[golden marlin]

I'm going to be honest with you. An actual SD sounds a lot better

[tired aurora]

Also technically speaking my MR223 is an SBR by US law 11" Barrel

[golden marlin]

The SD I got to shoot was really nice

Even though I don't like MP5s that much

And I did take a little bit of slag to the eye

It wasn't bad

It literally made 115 sound subsonic

And pretty much hearing safe

[tired aurora]

^

[golden marlin]

Those ports in the barrel really do a lot

[tired aurora]

A true SD sounds like a 22.lr suppressed

[golden marlin]

It's very impressive

They do spit back at you

But like the sound quality was there

Which the spitting back at you really is only if you are left-handed

[plush warren]

Probably, but a regular person in the USA cannot feasibly own an SD so it doesn’t really matter. Meanwhile you can get a K or a full size or the (not real!!!!) SD and still have a sick supressed setup :>

[tired aurora]

Was it freshly oiled?

[golden marlin]

No

I'm just left-handed

[thorny flame]

https://hkparts.net/hk-rifle-smg-parts/hk-mp5sd-parts-kit-pistol-build-9mm-receiver-flat-and-weldment-set/

[golden marlin]

It was a little bit of slag coming out of the chamber

[thorny flame]

it is not difficult to build

[golden marlin]

There are companies that actually do do new productions

[tired aurora]

Strange my only spits back if it freshly oiled/really dirty

[golden marlin]

Here in the United States

They aren't technically 100% HK but they are close enough to get around

Literally that was one of the last transfers that my buddy did through the shop

Before he closed it down

[echo cairn]

Just kinda came outa nowhere

[golden marlin]

And that gun was a $2,000 gun

[tired aurora]

Ian from FW has an American made SD

[golden marlin]

Single stamp

For the can

[thorny flame]

most of the KAC* stuff is for contracts, methinks someone in europe needed mp5 cans

[plush warren]

But it is difficult to get the papers to manufacture a machine gun, hence the “feasible” part of what I said

[golden marlin]

No, literally there are companies that will do it on a suppressor stamp

[thorny flame]

the legacy KAC 9mm can is a billion years old

time to upgrade

[golden marlin]

Because they make them semi-auto and as a SD

They are $2,000

[plush warren]

If we’re gonna be autismo about “true” SD’s you can’t cut corners on the FA

[tired aurora]

Quite possible. EU leo guns get used for a long ass time

[tired aurora]

I mean.... All my needs for that is a funny position trigger pack

[golden marlin]

Oh my God dude. Just stop bringing up full auto. Yeah that's two stamps but you can literally still get a semi-auto version

[thorny flame]

but the mp5SD volume would allow you to do incredible shit with a printed can

that's like a foot of silencer lmao

[plush warren]

Not select fire, not a true SD Lel

[tired aurora]

Since its an unmodified lower

[golden marlin]

[plush warren]

True! Wouldn’t be clone correct though :<

[tired aurora]

Wait lemme find the pic

[thorny flame]

https://www.knightarmco.com/39393/shop/signature-reduction/rifle-suppressors/9mm/900-dts-sd

i haven't seen them for sale yet

only the regular one

https://www.knightarmco.com/39387/shop/signature-reduction/rifle-suppressors/9mm/900-dts-1

[golden marlin]

https://youtu.be/LPpkLWTXxvU?si=_cxmAdBttadeiYef

[thorny flame]

this guy

there's still mp5sds floating around in the navy and shit too

[plush warren]

In case you guys couldn’t tell I’m being a shitter for comedic purposes, SD’s are cool but genuinely you can put together a better mp5 for less than a repro with an integral can

[golden marlin]

The police department my boss used to work at they had one as well

[thorny flame]

requires too much training for cops but, otoh i guess if you were issued one for a while

[golden marlin]

This was around the point that his department was just getting their first SRT team

I don't think they use it anymore but they had it for a while

[tired aurora]

That's the full length of the SD can

[thorny flame]

i think there's still departments that have like tommy guns in armories

[golden marlin]

Literally the department my boss used to work at. They still have a grease gun

It's in mint condition

[plush warren]

I’m still gonna die mad they didn’t redesign the mp5 for LRBHO after doing it on the 10mm. Woulda made it literally a money printer on the US market

[plush warren]

Based

[golden marlin]

Literally there was a department in my state that has a confiscated rare fn lmg from way back in the day I need to remember what model it was

Because it was one of the ones where the magazine loads from the top

[thorny flame]

it just became obsolescent

[echo cairn]

I needa get one of those lowers. I don't like the navy style grip

[thorny flame]

have you tried the magpul one yet

[tired aurora]

Meanwhile me looking for a navy style grip xD

[thorny flame]

you could also go the cursed route

[echo cairn]

It's a SL profile, and I don't like their SL grip

[golden marlin]

Wait

[plush warren]

Ehhhh kinda sorta not really. You can modernize it just like an AK and have a PCC or subgun that outclasses every other PCC on the market for 95% of uses

[golden marlin]

That's a fake one

[thorny flame]

can't beat a colt AR though

and they're cheaper

[echo cairn]

Yeah everyone is asking me why I want the horrid contoured one. Me with big hands 🤷‍♂️

[plush warren]

blowback
Not even a competition

[thorny flame]

i mean just a normal AR not the subguns

[plush warren]

Oh at that point it’s apples to oranges then, I own a colt and an mp5 for a reason Lel

[tired aurora]

I have the opposite problem... The groves aren't big enough for my fat fingers...

That's why I want navy xD

[echo cairn]

Yeah. A 10.3 kinda shits all over a sub gun

[plush warren]

Muzzle blast, volume, recoil, not to mention the biggest deficit: it’s not as cool

[echo cairn]

Recoil. On a 10.3 ar. Lol

[tired aurora]

To be fair... 300.blk does kinda make the SD obsolete In a Leo/mil setting

[plush warren]

It’s more than on a subgun

[tired aurora]

Since you have same overall length with parts commonality and training carrying over

[echo cairn]

To what percentage tho? Yesterday was colder than today, but by 1 degree

[plush warren]

To an extent, yeah! .300 with some pissing hot 110 grain varmint rounds goes hard

[thorny flame]

too expensive

[tired aurora]

And with heavy rounds + a can it suppresses nicely too

[plush warren]

.300 ain’t much pricier than 5.56, to be fair

[thorny flame]

it is much pricier

in all ways

lmao

you're trying to KISS for law enforcement

[echo cairn]

Like .2 at the LEAST more

[thorny flame]

you have to think as the whole system

it's training, it's logistics issues

[plush warren]

Wait who gives a fuck about LE/ mil use? I’ve been out for years that shit has no bearing on me

[thorny flame]

there was a discussion earlier about mags

[plush warren]

That’s the neat part, we don’t! Use what YOU like

[thorny flame]

there is a video of an OIS out there with .300blk MCXs

[plush warren]

I think that was about .300 specific mags yeah?

[thorny flame]

the mags don't run

yeah

[plush warren]

Or different convo

[thorny flame]

so oh your police department thought they could use their clapped out ar15 mags to feed an MCX

(WRONG)

(YOU ARE GOING TO DIE)

[plush warren]

That’s on the salesman not the product

✨

[thorny flame]

there's just too many issues vs glock and ar15 used by whatever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeSrEYeTtnM

this is what happens when your police department has too much money

[plush warren]

Even so idc what departments use I’m using a supressed mp5 and a pvs 14 to slime out feral dogs fucking with my chickens at 2 am

[thorny flame]

the guns do look cool tho

a lot of those bullets will not feed in gas guns

it's a whole slew of problems

[plush warren]

I think it would be neat if we just stopped pussyfooting around with militarization of police and just had gendarmerie for urban areas and normal ahh sheriffs for everywhere else

[thorny flame]

i can talk to you for an hour about .300blk extemporaneously but most people are not gun guys

[plush warren]

Oh hey that happened like 45 minutes from me

[plush warren]

I literally built my AR from the ground up to use .300BO subsonic handloads out to 900 yards I am like THE autistic to talk with about it

I wuv .300 blackout

[tired aurora]

Eh idk a country sheriff might pack as much kit as a swat officer depending on sheriff ofc

[tired aurora]

That is a hilarious setup

[plush warren]

Yeah but on the same token they aren’t wearing it 24/7 because they aren’t in an urban jungle, Yknow?

[thorny flame]

is this cowtown

[plush warren]

Thanks it’s one of my favorites

[plush warren]

Yeah why?

[thorny flame]

just recognizable washes

lmao

[plush warren]

Oh my fucking god how many cowtown members are discord users this is like the eighth time

[thorny flame]

ditat deus and all that good shit

[plush warren]

DAS RITE

[plush warren]

The idea was a better VSS built in American fashion (3x the price and double the ability)

[tired aurora]

Fair point. Also since you're from Arizona you get to need Ian at the months match often?

[plush warren]

I saw him in passing at a gun show in like 2016 but I’m not down south where he is

[tired aurora]

That is not hard TBF. Have you seen photos of VSS cans? It's like 4 times folded sheet steel...

[plush warren]

Exactly! It’s kinda dogshit by modern standards

BTFO by a $699 omega 300

[tired aurora]

Da Comrad is can

[plush warren]

And this thing is genuinely hearing safe, I put a lot of effort into ensuring that

[tired aurora]

Yep

The only place where the VSS wins is cost

Cuz there is no way that can costs more tha 25$ to make

[plush warren]

Still debating on what stock to use though. The PRS is nice but heavy as sin. I have an old Hera CQR laying around somewhere

[plush warren]

I’m sure someone has done custom repros and charged like 5 grand

Like that one meth head at last years SHOT show

[tired aurora]

Probably ye.

[plush warren]

I love .338 arc too, closer to 9x39 in dimensions and such and you can use a small frame unlike 8.6 chud out

[plush warren]

Go on pookie talk to me about .300 blackout I’m listening

[thorny flame]

it's great

and expensive

[plush warren]

It’s not!!!!

Expensive!!!!

[tired aurora]

Well all I can say is if any of my local gun stores can get their hands on an SP7 i'm getting one instantly

[thorny flame]

any of the bullets worth shooting are a dollar man

[tired aurora]

SP7 (pistol config) and PCC7 (carbine config) have cleared German lawmakers last month.

[thorny flame]

and to be clear i don't think that's a negative

you gotta pay to play

but

[plush warren]

220 grain SMK’s are like 40 cents each and a charge of CFE black to push it is like 7 cents. Cap it with a 9 cent CCI 450 primer and you’re balling

[thorny flame]

i don't think the discussion should be focused around the cheapest .300blk bullets

[plush warren]

HANDLOADS POOKIE HANDLOAFS

MATCH AMMO AT BULK PRICESSSS

[echo cairn]

"My bullets are cheaper with a $1000 reloading setup"

[thorny flame]

this is my axe to grind with the silly brassfacts shit

[plush warren]

And? A $1,000 reloading setup is in infinitely cooler than a $1,000 gun

That’s 2 aimpoints

Or two used glocks

[echo cairn]

Wasn't really a knock. Just funny as hell

People always say how cheap you can handload but never ever mention the cost to entry

[plush warren]

Valid point on your end all the same Lel

[thorny flame]

well if you're doing the volume it makes sense

[plush warren]

I always say you won’t save money handloading, but you’ll shoot more

[thorny flame]

at a certain point you have to either get a better job, a sponsor, or reload in your spare time

or suck off chinese sponsors for youtube money

[echo cairn]

That's why I said it's not a knock on the actual reloading

[thorny flame]

i guess the fourth option

[tired aurora]

TBF on certain rounds that gets paid back relatively quickly

[thorny flame]

TRY THIS NEW WINGLONG RED DOT

WOWEEEEE

[plush warren]

One thing I like about working at CT is I can shoot as soon as I’m off work

[thorny flame]

HELLO BOSS I AM BIG ALOOMINUM

[tired aurora]

Mainly like big bore long range/hunting rounds

[thorny flame]

THIS CHINESE LPVO IS A GREAT VALUE AT $150!

HERE'S MY REFERRAL LINK

[tired aurora]

Breaks on 2 range trips

[plush warren]

Literally anything that isn’t 9mm or 5.56 tbh

[echo cairn]

Yall looking wayyyyy too deep into what I said

[plush warren]

It’s like cooking your own food instead of eating out

[plush warren]

We’re just chatting twin

[thorny flame]

^

[tired aurora]

It's not even that deep just pointing out that if you're only doing it for cheap 9mm it's kinda stupid.

[thorny flame]

rn 9mm is the only cheap thing

but you never know what market conditions are like

[echo cairn]

So was my statement lol

[thorny flame]

like for example

you can't get the dank powders

[plush warren]

Reloading really shines for specialty stuff like match ammo or subs

[tired aurora]

But if you have some fancy calibers and end up reloading common calibers too it makes sense

[thorny flame]

so if you didn't buy a hundred pounds of powder in 2015 you're kinda SOL

https://youtu.be/-OV5e3qoqNk

[echo cairn]

Wildcats

[thorny flame]

like this is the dumbest video

go through the effort of spending hours and hours on .300blk content

[tired aurora]

Or ammo where cases are hard to get 32. French long comes to mind lol

[thorny flame]

and shoot the worst bullets imaginable

[plush warren]

The cool part is even if you can’t find the powder you want, there’s always like 20 other options that’ll work!

[plush warren]

Calm down Ian

[tired aurora]

XD

I love how you got the refrance instantly

[plush warren]

❤️

[plush warren]

Some ppl really just want to shoot themselves in the foot in the final steps of the marathon

[tired aurora]

If I ever got into bigger calibers like 308. Win - 338. LM I'd consider reloading since at that point 1000 for a reloading setup isn't that much when ammo goes for 2+/round

For the cheap shit

[plush warren]

For reference I spent about …

Hold on I gotta do math

$2k on my reloading setup

1/5th of that was on the powder measure, another 1/5th on a case trimmer, etc etc

And that isn’t including actually good (Redding and LE Wilson) dies and mandrels, shellholders, calipers, bench, etc

[thorny flame]

it just doesn't make sense to go to .30

[plush warren]

You CAN get into it for way cheaper but still

[thorny flame]

if you're going to ignore what you're doing it for in the first place

[plush warren]

Honestly yeah .338 and 6.5 are the projectiles for this half of the century by the looks

[thorny flame]

i just mean over cheaper options

you can justify whatever

but i don't think the average PSA .300blk enjoyer, for example, has done the math

[echo cairn]

Anyone done form 1s recently

[plush warren]

Yeah I SBR’d a PSA lower and put it on a $3k .300 blackout build what’s up

[echo cairn]

Gay first of all

Second what's your time been?

[plush warren]

Month and a half, not bad for the price of free

Also I’m not gay all my twinks moan like girls

[echo cairn]

Not if you can't even use it. I've had two psa lowers just not even work out of the box lmao. Never again

Jesus Christ what is it with gun severs

I'm seeing 49 days being the median. Let's hope

[plush warren]

Idk man works fine on my machine lmao. Didn’t even have to hand fit everything

[thorny flame]

back up to 49 days? cringe

[plush warren]

I use PSA for lowers, pins, springs, etc but never ever complete guns/uppers/ lowers

[echo cairn]

Idk what yall doing hand fitting lowers lmao

[plush warren]

I’m not that’s my whole point 😂

[echo cairn]

Ikr. I was expecting a few days like around Christmas. Filled the one for the ptr and saw MONTH on the subreddit and said fuck me

[thorny flame]

still good, i think my first was like 9 months

feels real bad

[echo cairn]

Felt. I remember my first can lmao

It was a trust when the wait for individual went down to a few weeks. I felt like shit

[plush warren]

My cans have all been under 30 hours so far for the 3 of them

My FFL probably thinks I’m giving mad head to the local ATF field agents

But that wait for the SBR is a kriller

[lunar marsh]

Not since it went $0 tax stamps

[echo cairn]

Damn

[golden marlin]

As far as I have heard, it's still very quick

I believe my last 4473 I did which wasn't long ago. I did ask the guy how long they have been taking now to do stamps

To which he does it on paper and then ships everything to them instead of doing it through silencer shop

And once the paperwork actually arrives to their facility he's been getting it back pretty quick

[scenic jetty]

yea sbrs are taking like 2 months

another guy in another server was around that

[scenic jetty]

oh i def plan to get more at some point

[scenic jetty]

hell yea got out of 300 blk though

@plush warren just dm me any good options on rifle stuff

[golden marlin]

im going to load for 2 different lengths

5.5 and 10.5

[scenic jetty]

barrel length i assume

[golden marlin]

yep

i do want to make the acr a host

[scenic jetty]

oh that will be intresting

also i like shooting the round but i was like eh for the round

[golden marlin]

i get it

i think its neat

but has a lot of problems

[scenic jetty]

yea but hopefully you get a good load for the round

[golden marlin]

im hoping

i plan to mostly load for noise

with a 220 grain projectile

[livid holly]

I may have found an airsoft replica of the RIS II handguard I may try out down the line

It’s fuckin $98 but I’d have no idea if it would mount to an actual AR properly

[proven hearth]

[red salmon]

Who would wanna buy it?

[scenic jetty]

🫵 👊

[thorny flame]

why would you do this

instead of just buying a ris ii

stop wasting your money my guy

[livid holly]

I never bought it

Tf

I said I MAY

[livid holly]

Maybe because it’s a $500+ handguard I’m not willing to drop that kind of money on a fucking handguard

https://alexandersstore.com/product/daniel-defense-ris-ii-m4a1-fsp-assembly-fde/

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020947699

[carmine tide]

heres the thing about airsoft rails

THEY ARENT MEANT FOR REAL GUNS HIGH SPEED

[livid holly]

I mean, fair, but curiosity begs the question, could it work

[carmine tide]

no

ill answer that right now

[scenic jetty]

@livid holly could always get the midway usa quad rail

[livid holly]

True, but I was just going down a rabbit hole earlier from a Reddit post about a cheaper version of a sight mount made to the same specs and just needed a different set of screws to be the same level of quality as a sight mount from a company that no longer exists or is hard to find stuff from

The actual ones on the post were regularly like $80-$100 but the “Temu” version of them only has different screws and no branding

[scenic jetty]

Would definitely be interested to see

[livid holly]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/s/9eqFBPhXQl

[thorny flame]

buddy save your money

just spend less than you make and save

an airsoft RIS will not bring you joy

[honest nova]

I’ve been thinking a lot recently about self defense and possibilities of civil unrest and I realized my single ar15 can’t solve every possible issue. I’ve been thinking about getting a p365 with a flux kit on it and I’m wondering what y’alls thoughts are on it.

[thorny flame]

you should consider building a community of like minded individuals with shared goals and a positive vision of the future

[honest nova]

Thats why I joined a gun club 👍

[thorny flame]

less gun club more neighbors

[honest nova]

Thats pretty hard when I live in a blue state

But I should do that

Or try atleast to get them to think about self defense

[thorny flame]

you're not going to escape from LA with a 365 flux

type shit

[honest nova]

Nah nah nah, not as extreme as LA

But pretty bad still lol

[red salmon]

Do you reload 30-06

[red salmon]

Get a BCM QRF hand guard

[red salmon]

Is a 12in hand guard alright for a 16 in barrel?

[astral thorn]

gonna look kinda goofy

[lethal linden]

lul

[grizzled oriole]

Looks interesting. Personally don't understand the appeal of bright colors on a firearm, makes it look like a toy

[placid basin]

interesting color palette

[proven hearth]

Lol

Lmao even

[tired aurora]

It's just one of those semi auto "competition" shotguns for some reason they love selling those in wacky colours.

[round sentinel]

The poor YN’s

[thorny flame]

shoot it until it explodes like a farcry 2 gun

[round sentinel]

Kek

[thorny flame]

(wear safety glasses at all times)

it’s only getting magdumped into trash anyway who cares

yolo

[round sentinel]

@lone moss consider, I bust the warranty

[thorny flame]

are you ordering one?

[round sentinel]

Ordering?

:)

[thorny flame]

real sicko hours

[round sentinel]

I already bought it kek

The B&T rail is also mega on sale. What getting no contract and having 0 civil market does to a mf

[thorny flame]

tbh you should probably just buy a few

tho i guess B&T doesn’t really give a shit they’ll probably reissue them

if people want

[round sentinel]

[thorny flame]

do you know if murdoch sold out their initial run

[round sentinel]

He told me he still had a few more before the initial run was closed

[plush warren]

I used to yeah! For an m1917 and a garand

[scenic jetty]

How much do these go for

[hot locust]

I should buy a draco and get it zenitco’d up

No MGSRR gifs

[round sentinel]

4500 for the base rifle

[hot locust]

Truly 1984

[round sentinel]

I get to throw 7k at it tho

[scenic jetty]

Fucking he’ll

Just got that money to throw around

[round sentinel]

Yea

[scenic jetty]

Gosh dam

I do not unfortunately

plus I’d want to put that money towards my savings or like thermals

Or fixing up my truck more

[round sentinel]

I have a need for the new upper it’ll have soon

So badly

[fallen epoch]

Hey i have that bayonets older bigger brother on my PLCE

with the scabbard

Big ol thing

I put my M7 bayonet in there

For my M16

Bayonet gaming

[round sentinel]

L85 bayonets are silly

With their flash holes

[fallen epoch]

Indeed they are

Interesting bayonets

Never understood why you’d just directly mount it on level with the barrel doesn’t really do much with weight distribution rather than having it underneath

[round sentinel]

Less torque acting on the barrel is my best guess

[fallen epoch]

makes sense

[lusty barn]

DPMS Panther Arms SASS Ar10 with Burris Eliminator.

[tired aurora]

damn that looks soo good 03-04 marine look. (also BF3 flashbacks)

[scenic jetty]

The l85 clone upper ?

[round sentinel]

Yeah. I’m getting the A3 and a special upper additionally

[scenic jetty]

Nice

[hidden pebble]

🤯🤩🥺

[red salmon]

Gib free iron sights

[round sentinel]

Tbh idk if it’ll come with the irons

[lunar marsh]

Finally scored a like new in box AP 5000 after nearly a year searching. I think they are more rare than older 2000 and 3000 aimpoints

[scenic jetty]

Is this another build your doing

[lunar marsh]

Ya

[grizzled oriole]

what is the mag pull cord?

[lunar marsh]

Just standard 550 with burned ends secured under baseplate

[grizzled oriole]

never seen that before. I have only seen and use the magpul ones. this looks way cleaner

[lunar marsh]

This was our unit standard way back 20+ years ago. Just enough to get 2 fingers in, gutted and burned. Slide baseplate about half way off and close over top of it. No tape. Tape gets sticky and collects everything possible eventually

[grizzled oriole]

thank you for that

[fallen epoch]

That’s the style I was going for! Lots of reference photos were taken for that build 😅

Bf3 my beloved

[hushed salmon]

I make these sometimes. They don't hold up though.

The paracord is way better

[golden marlin]

That's a little lewd to post your g string

[hushed salmon]

[scenic jetty]

Hell yea

[scenic jetty]

The big ass tape handle

[lone moss]

I mean shitttt

[round sentinel]

Hehehehe

Both are on order

[lone moss]

Hell yeah

[thorny flame]

boy do i have a company for you 😂

[plush warren]

On today’s episode of “this is why we don’t include flyers”!!!

I wuv handloading it feeds my tism so succinctly

:3333

[hushed salmon]

?

[scenic jetty]

@hushed salmon are those overkill for you with those massive tape handles

[next quarry]

Preparations for benchrest.

Left x5-x50 SFP.
Right x4-x16 FFP.

[plush warren]

Nice! I hope they work well for you :>

[next quarry]

I hope too.

[hushed salmon]

I come from a time before magpul existed.

Also, this option costs just a few shekels.

[hushed salmon]

Overkill?

[thorny flame]

please they are circa 1999 you're not that old

[blazing temple]

uncle cannoli is from the late 80s he is very old

[hushed salmon]

I'm old

And if you think magpul even existed in Israel around 1999......

[thorny flame]

i think i've seen you on instagram

king solomon once said, buy an SR-15

[red salmon]

You should reload some 30-06 for me to really

I got some less than pretty 30-06 ap that needs to be scrapped and reloaded

[fathom dragon]

R u old enough to see the introduction of the Israeli bandage? 🤣

[hushed salmon]

@thorny flame

[blazing temple]

Kadyrov looking a little strange in that picture

[thorny flame]

perfect, no notes

[blazing temple]

[thorny flame]

well, the chinashit optic but

a stingy people

[lunar marsh]

I remember the year the first gen pmags released and we took a couple to Iraq for testing lol

[red salmon]

How’d that work out for ya

[lunar marsh]

We didn’t care for them. Gritty followers and weak feed lips. We preferred the HK steel mags over anything.

[red salmon]

If I may ask, did you ever keep/bring back stuff from your time in the service?

[lunar marsh]

Like “war trophies”?

[hushed salmon]

All I got were Gazan license plates and a prayer rug

[red salmon]

Doesn’t have to be, could be your own personal gear like patches etc

[lunar marsh]

Ya I kept a few things personal to me but not much. A couple uniforms. My squad flag was all tore up from combat and buried it with my A TL a couple years after I was out. I have his personal matching patch he wore during deployment

In Iraq I kept a chest harness off a killed fighter but tossed it before coming back home.

[red salmon]

Good old Chicom vest

I think at least maybe

[lunar marsh]

Kept it loaded with mags and an AK up in my SL hatch of my Stryker just in case

Later destroyed and tossed in a river

[red salmon]

Just answered my question before I even finished typing it lmao

[red salmon]

Same river with everything else I imagine

[lunar marsh]

Everything we tossed while working in Baghdad was tossed in the Tigris. Everything else tossed in the Diyalah working around Baqubah

[timid belfry]

what optic do i put on the mp5

[honest nova]

Flashlight

[lunar marsh]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DQJVk7nDCbi/?igsh=NHMzY21sZ3ptZjNh

[timid belfry]

[red salmon]

Again I wonder if it’s still there

[scenic jetty]

like a ton of tape to make it is what i mean

[hushed salmon]

Ya.

I prefer it over the actual Magpull

[thorny flame]

are you allowed to modify mags

for like the ranger plates

extensions etc

[hushed salmon]

Reservists can do whatever they want. Conscripts can't.

[scenic jetty]

huh thats intresting to hear

[hushed salmon]

I think it falls under the American military term, "tie down"

Which mostly applies to securing your gear but also making it more practical

[unique fjord]

https://toparsenal.net/products/pilad-p1x42

[thorny flame]

find a 4t

[scenic jetty]

i do know about the 550 cord one but i never saw anyone do it while i was in

[tired aurora]

i mean literally anything decent is fine. Tho you might wanna get something a little taller soo it clears the front sight post.

[soft jay]

Just get a riser

[tired aurora]

depends on optic an eokek is tall enough

its only really the super low profile ones

[next quarry]

On x50 magnification, i can read books that have my neighbours.

[hushed salmon]

True

[lunar marsh]

We tied everything down minus the lights with 550 lol

[scenic jetty]

Mags I never seen anyone do but for tieing down shit on our m4 yea

[red salmon]

What’s yall’s opinions on FRT’s?

[echo cairn]

Still a toy imo

[red salmon]

Well yes of course but do you think it’s something that’s a bad idea to get?

[golden marlin]

It really depends on your state and it really depends on your ranges

If you got a private range you go to then it's who cares thing

If your state doesn't allow it then you're probably not getting one

It's just a toy

It's fun

But very much a toy

[lunar marsh]

Ya never mags lol. I don’t know how that would even work. Optics lasers nods radios always

[lunar marsh]

Pointless waste of money

Just way to burn thru money on the range with no training value and no real world use or purpose.

[red salmon]

I mean that’s fair, I thought it’d be cool so it was something I was thinking about

[golden marlin]

Like if you're hanging out with Buddy and you have ammo to blow and you really don't care

Go for it it's fun

It's a toy

I have a FRT. I rarely shoot it in frt but when I do it's just for fun

It's one of those features that like you can get them for so cheap now so why not

It's a once in awhile thing and it's fun

[onyx canyon]

Does anyone know, why the tarkov B-11 is different to the real one? The side rails do not go all the way

[golden marlin]

What are you talking about

Like I'm assuming it zenitco

But that's literally just a krink handguard

Like a quick warning. Nobody plays the game in this chat

So if you make any references to the game nobody's going to really understand it

[edgy kestrel]

You’d definitely wanna ask one of the game related chats vs this one. We deal with irl guns and occasionally 1/4 pickups

[golden marlin]

I don't even know if they would even understand

[modest hatch]

need to supply pictures if you want more from us

[golden marlin]

And like to be fair he is asking for like a real thing

But like I just don't understand what he's specifically talking about

Because like as far as I know of they don't even have the top handguard for the krink in that game

It's just the lower and then they have the bolt-on piece that you can get for a top mount

But when he says the side rail I'm thinking he's either talking about the dovetail standard AK mount that everybody tends to have

Or he's talking about the bolt-on zenitco one

That goes on the handguard

Without pictures, I don't really know what he's talking about

Either way, it more or less just would come down to poor modeling or the lack of understanding on the developers

[onyx canyon]

Mb holup

This is the tarkov one but the real one has the side rails along the whole length

[golden marlin]

They are basing it off the older model

The older model zenitco rails did not go with a full length. Sometimes they kept it as one side had a piece of 1913 on it and the other side kept that diagonal cuts

But that's a older model that they based it off of

[onyx canyon]

I couldn't find any reference of that online because everything was so flooded by airsoft or 3d printed stuff

[onyx canyon]

Thanks a lot, must be the same for the ingame RK-1 then which had me confused too

[golden marlin]

That style is pretty rare now compared to like the newer models that you see with their version of mlok and the regular 1913 ones you see

[golden marlin]

No problem like the company has been around for a long time so they've had changes over the years

[onyx canyon]

Yeah I've seen those as current products on their website and the only once saw that looked like that where airsoft clone thingies

[onyx canyon]

Gotcha, very helpful

[golden marlin]

I think some of the reason why it's so common to find the airsoft ones is just solely to avoid paying royalties or anything like that

Russian gun companies tend to not care as much

But a lot of American ones do care about licensing

[onyx canyon]

Yeah fair, makes it easier to clone tarkov guns from airsoft lol

Gotcha

[golden marlin]

Yep

[inland lichen]

Iirc it's not even that american firearms companies care, it's that California passed a law saying that video games sold in California can't use real names because it's "advertising guns to minors"

[golden marlin]

Companies in America tend to care more

Like that thing is new

[onyx canyon]

Really? Pretty sure I heard of the manufacturers themselves suing in the past

[golden marlin]

But if you were actually around when mw2 came out

Then you would know that the company arms

Tried suing Activision for the portrayal of the arms sir rail in that game

Because they got no credit for it or anything like that

While when it comes to Russian companies, they will actually provide information and material to help the game developers

[blazing temple]

And now we live in a world where all the mainstream games use made up bs names for everything

[golden marlin]

That California thing is very much new

Which they technically weren't wrong that. But they also weren't right at the same time when it came to claiming that video games were advertising guns to kids. Because yeah, when mw3 came around, Remington paid so much money to have multiple of their guns in that game

Especially when they literally put their name on the side of every single one

So you knew it was a Remington gun

But also you're playing an m rated game

So they just expect your a adult

[scenic jetty]

I was in a tank so nods and radios just stayed inside lol

[golden marlin]

I should specify this was 2009 when that lawsuit happened because there are so many young kids that think MW2 is referring to the newer crappier game

[edgy kestrel]

Probably not

[severe juniper]

What y'all think about my Home Defence Setup?

100gr, 69 cal.

[unique fjord]

No 6 7?

[misty cove]

Should be atleast 1000 gr

[golden marlin]

Consider

I'm adapting a airshit sound grenade file for 22 blanks

It's either going to work or it's just going to blow the thing apart

[true mist]

I got first out of 91 shooters at my local two gun today 😁

really happy with how the AK turned out

[unique fjord]

Power of God and anime

[true mist]

🗣️

[scenic jetty]

hey you know if 37 mm takes shotgun primers

[golden marlin]

No clue. I've never loaded for 37

Depending on what type of reloadable cartridges you have, they either specify or they use blanks

[thorny flame]

@carmine tide i never tire of this topic

[carmine tide]

NOBODY KNOW WHAT THE FUCK A PDW IS

IT ISNT REAL

[modest hatch]

A sword is a pdw

[modest hatch]

If it helps I know some 20mm takes 50bmg primers

[astral quest]

Personal defense weapons dummy’s

[edgy kestrel]

Unwanted frag grenade that will unfortunately be banned in every field

[golden marlin]

thats if i play that shit again

[edgy kestrel]

Valid

[golden marlin]

but like the feild i used to play at almost 10 years ago would allow this stuff

[edgy kestrel]

I played yesterday and it was pretty great

[golden marlin]

as long as it wasnt a hazzard

[edgy kestrel]

So real

I wish more fields would do that

[golden marlin]

i still have my old stuff

and i kinda miss it

[edgy kestrel]

Ours is kinda picky about 3d printed munitions

[edgy kestrel]

Yeah

It’s just fun to dick around

Hang out with the boys

[golden marlin]

that and i can actually use my gear

[edgy kestrel]

And then light up their right flank cause they were not paying attention

[golden marlin]

instead of just range larp

[edgy kestrel]

Yeah

Exactly

You find out what works with your setup and what does not

[golden marlin]

this file was mostly set up for those 8 shot capgun ring caps

which works