irl-weapons

[golden marlin]

Yeah

The only thing I am actually curious about with the grot is the charging handle

[misty cove]

goat

garage?

[golden marlin]

Grot

I'm using speech to text right now because I'm working on something

But they actually went with the Masada charging handle position

[misty cove]

oh lol

[misty cove]

its not that bad i tihnk

[golden marlin]

I don't think it's bad. I'm just curious how in the way it's going to be

[scenic jetty]

Def cool, something I’d probable not get

[golden marlin]

Because the one thing I've noticed with the position on the ACR that charging handle position being in the front gets in the way

Like there's a lot of different positions I want to put my buttons

And I can't

[scenic jetty]

@golden marlin how are the ar lowers that take Ak mags cause I kinda wanna do a build with one

[golden marlin]

Because the wiring would get in the way of the charging handle or just the charging handle itself

Is sitting right next to something? I don't want it to be too small

[echo cairn]

Speaking of low quality bs

[golden marlin]

So personally

I wouldn't really bother with 7.62x39

Just because the bolts for a lot of those lower builds and all that

Are just too thin

And do break quicker

Like technically if you want something like that so bad cmmg is the better option

Because they actually beefed up the bolt profile

[thorny flame]

this is why it was revised for the army trial

obviously that rifle didn't get selected either

[golden marlin]

Even then I would still find it to be a issue with wires

I did swap my charging handle out for a different one

[scenic jetty]

Gotcha, so I did see a video were you can get beefed up bolt heads for it

[golden marlin]

Still tempted to order the Templar just to see how it is but for a hundred bucks

I don't see it worth it

[misty cove]

front? afaik its on the back

[scenic jetty]

What is it

[golden marlin]

Yes, I know I'm talking about the ACR where the position of the charging handle is in the front

[misty cove]

oh my bad

[golden marlin]

While the original gun that the ACR was based off of

The Magpul Masada

Put it in the back

And the grot does the same

[misty cove]

lowk whats beter

[thorny flame]

everyone seems to have settled on the side of the receiver at this point

[echo cairn]

Some dpms ar10 I was zeroing for a executive

[misty cove]

grot 7.62x39 or beryl

also 7.62

🤔

[golden marlin]

Beryl

[thorny flame]

the sig/hk position

[golden marlin]

And that's really just because of the bolt geometry

Because you're going to get a lot more life out of a AK bolt than the bolt style the grot and acr uses

With that like AR style star-shaped

There's just not enough meat on it

[thorny flame]

@echo cairn have you seen these in store yet?

[misty cove]

okay

ak best fr

[golden marlin]

Like you're probably going to group better with the grot and or have a much easier time mounting optics and everything else. It's just the bolt

[echo cairn]

Yeah I've seen one at my local. I say local like it's a small shop but he's the only b&t, h&k, and AI dealer in Memphis. But meh, I don't like piston

[scenic jetty]

Ah gotcha

[thorny flame]

an interesting product, i wonder who the end user is for those

maybe someone in europe?

[scenic jetty]

Probably the government

[echo cairn]

Some ultra spoopy death giver execution squad

[thorny flame]

idk they sold a lot of 516s abroad

to all sorts of weird people

literally 416 we have at home

HK might not sell to your third world shithole but sig will

[echo cairn]

I just wana kick the end user sof group that told sig they wanted a button to go from NV levels of brightness to FULL FUCKING BRIGHTNESS

That's the main reason I sold the 4xt pro. I blinded myself so many times under nods

[thorny flame]

it makes sense if you're primarily doing active aiming

and then need to goon someone outside

[scenic jetty]

I have the dbal d2 def bright but its chunky

[round sentinel]

Pseudo mono > mono > non mono

:)

[echo cairn]

I want the zbolt ACAL

[thorny flame]

like the israel stuff

i think is informative for a lot of that

[misty cove]

@round sentinel do you know the safe thing that polands tryna do

[echo cairn]

Basically a better d2

[round sentinel]

What now

[scenic jetty]

Don’t think I ever seen that

[misty cove]

afaik its like

a 180 bilion loan

for army shit

[scenic jetty]

Huh that’s pretty cool

[misty cove]

its in złoty

i dont know if its ag ood idea cuz i dont want poland to end up like usa

[round sentinel]

in which way

its an EU program tho from what it sounds like, but on paper the act itself is solid

[echo cairn]

It's a much better d2. Lighter, over bore laser, like a 6° to 25° illuminator adjustment, bright ahh led based illuminator. Just really really nice US made laser.

[misty cove]

geting loans to pay off loans

[echo cairn]

I'm waiting for 4mr ranch to get one and review it before I jump

[misty cove]

forever on and on

[round sentinel]

yeah thats normal at a gov level

thats by no means anything new

[misty cove]

yeah but i dont want it to go insanely far

like usa where its like 150% of the gdp

[echo cairn]

Semi mono still have a slight shift in the handguard. For shutting NV true mono is the best

[round sentinel]

that act wont change anything in that regard

[round sentinel]

oh yeah absolutely, its barely anything even compared to non mono

[misty cove]

idk man its 180 bilion złoty

[scenic jetty]

Shit that sounds nice

[round sentinel]

a good semi mono is on par with most mono mlok

[echo cairn]

The use of semi mono is for accuracy purposes. Like the Seekins sp10m is the most accurate gas gun system bar none. And it's semi mono system is nice

[thorny flame]

there are like half a dozen really decent handguards if that's a concern

[round sentinel]

this can be argued with spuhrs tbh

his little internal barrel nut autism project

[misty cove]

i just hope we dont buy anything from germany

[round sentinel]

more K2's for you

[echo cairn]

If Spuhr ever comes out lmfao

[round sentinel]

ikr

[misty cove]

eh yeah

but also ratel and borsuk

[thorny flame]

cobalt has one, hodge, the icar joint

[misty cove]

it gets to a point with the korean shit

i get tanks cuz we got none but like

they bought grenade launchers

(that imediatly broke and there was no parts for them)

even tho tarnów has their own afaik

[echo cairn]

https://z-bolt.com/collections/acal-civilian-legal/products/acal-advanced-co-located-aiming-laser-led-illuminator-blk

[round sentinel]

per the other pole, the korean loan is 8%, this loan is 2%, within the EU. Its an insanely good move

[scenic jetty]

I did my own ar10 build which turned out pretty good

[round sentinel]

its only a part issue

[misty cove]

yeah

the korean shit kinda blunder ngl

[round sentinel]

yeah this is looking nice

[misty cove]

the tanks good ig

[echo cairn]

When tf did hodge make a semi mono?

[misty cove]

but like

[round sentinel]

the integral arca is peak

[thorny flame]

the mod 3

[misty cove]

why the other shit

[round sentinel]

no it wasnt

absolutely not

[misty cove]

maybe not blunder

but some things are yk just why

[scenic jetty]

Also my laser is on my Ak which I may switch it to something else

[thorny flame]

they're doing the same thing Q is doing, i assume to avoid the LMT patent

[round sentinel]

Yall needed a modern tank package in numbers germany could not provide

yall got an insanely good deal

[misty cove]

yuh

[echo cairn]

My God it's ugly tho

[misty cove]

bro

[round sentinel]

let alone the long term benefits of the licensed facilities now being in country

[echo cairn]

Wow how did we get the exact same image

[misty cove]

germany is the reason we have nio tank production

lol

[thorny flame]

i love op tactical

[round sentinel]

no it aint, its the soviets fault lol

[scenic jetty]

Honestly kinda like the look of that upper

[echo cairn]

Honestly the best system I've seen other than Lmt is Vltor. I'm honestly shocked nobody has tried to copy it

[misty cove]

no it sorta is

[round sentinel]

LMAO WHAT

HOW

[misty cove]

the soviets gave us a bunch of licenses

[round sentinel]

not for armor they didnt

[thorny flame]

the vltor shit is too heavy though

[misty cove]

pt97 development canceled cuz germans sold a bunch of old ass leo 2a4s to us

[misty cove]

whats the t72m1 ?

[round sentinel]

aka dogshit even by that point

[misty cove]

nah it was alright

[round sentinel]

no it wasnt

not even close

[echo cairn]

I mean the specwar isn't exactly light lol

[misty cove]

miles ahead of fucking t55 tho

[round sentinel]

you mean the modernized pos

it was a good swap to the Leo's lmao

[misty cove]

whats piece of shit about it

[round sentinel]

bro its a fuckin T72

its a dogshit tank, everything about it is built like shit

[misty cove]

with a whole diferent turet

and fcs etc

[echo cairn]

Especially like this. My God it was thicc

[round sentinel]

which doesnt fix the chassis being horrid

[misty cove]

they were gona change that too btw

[thorny flame]

same deal here

[round sentinel]

yeah for the Leo

[misty cove]

nuh uh

[echo cairn]

Good thing Q is ass

[round sentinel]

dude, do you know how broke yall were during the 97 program

[thorny flame]

that's also on an AR10 frame though

[misty cove]

maybe

[round sentinel]

yall had no economy nor infrastructure to accomplish it

[misty cove]

hehe maluch for a few milion :D

[round sentinel]

even without the Leo, you couldnt have finished it

[thorny flame]

it's just hard to work around the normal AR barrel nut

it has to be some insane situation

[scenic jetty]

Didn’t aero do something that helped with that

[thorny flame]

like look at what cobalt is doing

be not afraid ass barrel nut

[misty cove]

not gona lie

the leclerc is a cool tank

[scenic jetty]

Yea didn’t aero do something like this

[thorny flame]

well this is part of the upper

i think uh

[echo cairn]

Yeah their locking nut is M A S S I V E

[thorny flame]

the ridgeline gun is similar

[misty cove]

also speaking of tanks the uk is gona havel ike 200 tanks soon or smth lol

[echo cairn]

shit takes a solid minute of just threading in

[thorny flame]

more KAC style with an external handguard

like the seekins, which also got revised

[echo cairn]

I was just ab to say ridge has one now

[thorny flame]

but they're more worried about bipod deflection

[echo cairn]

I forgot ab it

[echo cairn]

(Come to find out, it doesn't do much lol)

[thorny flame]

since you can just put a laser on the scope mount

not a big deal

[thorny flame]

it's just something that has to be factored in but the shifts aren't MASSIVE

[thorny flame]

i think people are sleeping on those ATC edges

i saw that gun before springfield bought them out

some real goon shit

[echo cairn]

I forget the company but I love how everyone said Springfield really innovated but that system was out like 5 years before they did that

[thorny flame]

no springfield bought it from drake & associates

they did none of the design work

[echo cairn]

That's it!

[scenic jetty]

That Springfield one is weird

[thorny flame]

but it's a true free float system

[echo cairn]

Goofy asf tho

[thorny flame]

they were selling them in very very small quantities

shopping around when they were replacing the mk12s etc

[echo cairn]

Yeah bc no matter how you look at it the handguard is flexing the receiver and barrel in some way no matter how small

[thorny flame]

well you see how HK solved it

which is make the thing 20lbs and steel

[round sentinel]

It kinda is yeah

thank god yall got the K2 deal now tho

peak tank plus peak licensing deal

[thorny flame]

i'm actually surprised i don't see more of those mod 3s

[misty cove]

yuh

tech transfer too i think

[thorny flame]

but i don't think anyone really knows about them

lmao

hodge is too hipster

[scenic jetty]

Aren’t the k2s Korean tanks If I remember

[round sentinel]

yup

[echo cairn]

This is just me, I don't like hodge

FCD too to an extent

[thorny flame]

i hate their marketing like people hate Q's stuff

[round sentinel]

yeah

they are p damn solid

[thorny flame]

they're of the same generational cohort

which is why it's all cringe

[echo cairn]

Some of fcd's stuff is just a straight up upgrade, but like $40 for a magazine release is just...wtf

[scenic jetty]

Oh yea they are pretty cool tanks

[thorny flame]

they're small machine shops doing the work

[echo cairn]

Yeah ik. But like the t2 caps for example, straight upgrade

I prefer their version of CMT's handguard

Also, found out too, CMT is 15 minutes from my house. I actually talked them and got my FCD handguard from them to avoid shipping lmao

[thorny flame]

in alternative interesting news

i wonder if they pulled reed's rights

because they're selling off some uhh

EXPENSIVE STUFF

[echo cairn]

Twas a nice handguard

[thorny flame]

cmt makes nice stuff

[echo cairn]

Yee, super chill guys

[livid holly]

@round sentinel you cant make this shit up lmfao

context : my ship has three "GTGs" - gas turbine generators, one of the two primary went down, was replaced entirely and then the replacement went down AND one of the other two

single turbine operation has been a BITCH

[thin cypress]

Still waiting on my space Mac 😑

[blazing temple]

But are they ccts

[leaden mist]

thoughts on the sig sauer cross?

finna come up on a cool 3 grand so im looking to get into a longer range rifle

twas considering the 308 winchester model

heard 6.5 creedmore was better but idk

[lone moss]

So much better shit for 3k than a cross

[leaden mist]

what do you think i should get then

i didnt want to buy something super heavy thats the thing

was considering the bergara b14 hmr but it was heavier

[lone moss]

Depends on what you are trying to do?

[leaden mist]

fun range toy

and larping

[lone moss]

Bergara in Chassis or r700 action in chassis will be the best bang for your buck money over a cross

[leaden mist]

kekw

[leaden mist]

in guess but then i gotta buy an mdt chassis

and isnt fitment varied?

and mind yuou getting parts is kind of difficult for me since im in commiefornia

[lone moss]

Just depends on chassis and action

[leaden mist]

what bolt actions do you have?

im new to this stuff so im kinda looking at everything rn

my lever action is already good to 225 yards but i want something that can shoot further

maybe reach out to 6-700 yards

and what rounds would you reccomend?

[lone moss]

Have got completely out of the prs game, no longer interests me at all but most people are running r700 actions in chassis, bergara or similar, if you wanna cheap out go howa

[leaden mist]

sounds yummy

i might actually buy a cross and then the bergara hmr

i love the look of the stock on the hmr but i also wanted some cool modern shit that looks like the t5000 from tarkovlol

[lone moss]

I guess that works, but I promise you’ll probs be disappointed by the cross I have a shot a fair few of them and they never compare to an actual built rifle

[leaden mist]

im a little shitter im pleased by anything with a smooth action and goes boom

im not too picky on moa

id be happy shooting a 1.5 size group

im probably going to get a dedicated rifle for bench shooting

and the cross is just going to be a stupid splurge

[lone moss]

Literally just go buy a howa and chassis

Spend the rest on glass

You’ll get more use out of that than the cross

[leaden mist]

if i find a chassis that makes me cream my pants i may follow your advice

thank you for the help kind sir

[lone moss]

No problem, everyone you ask will have a different opinion just do your research before you buy

[leaden mist]

firearms are naturally a personal thing

not everyone is going to like the same gun and thats okay, I just like hearing what people choose and why, it helps me weigh the pros and cons of each

[unique fjord]

Get a Enfield and profit

[fathom dragon]

Yes

[echo cairn]

I have a feeling mosins were not designed to shoot prone

[fathom dragon]

Move bag more forward

Or rifle rearward

Owie elbow

[round sentinel]

I have a feeling mosins were not designed to shoot prone

there, i fixed it for you

[echo cairn]

That has literally nothing to do with it

[echo cairn]

Shot better than expected

[round sentinel]

not bad at all for a mosin yeah

[fathom dragon]

Give it a try see how it goes

[golden marlin]

They arent great for that

yeah

my pu sucks prone

[echo cairn]

Moving the bag onto the barrel shroud does not change the metal butt pad to rubber

[fathom dragon]

Give it a try see how it goes

[round sentinel]

oh wait thats your complaint? the metal?

[golden marlin]

oh

i dont have a issue with that

unless im shooting hotter loads no

[round sentinel]

ayo hot?

[echo cairn]

Yee, and the way the stock is designed the only place it made contact was my collar bone

[golden marlin]

barnauls?

ammo

[round sentinel]

thats fair lmao, Im just used to it

it dont bother me no more

[echo cairn]

All I have is a shit ton of monarch back when it was like .10 a round

[modest hatch]

yeah you need a pad of some sort. I've found having a padded shoulder makes a world of difference for comfort when prone

[echo cairn]

I'm not gana shoot it prone so I think I'm good

[modest hatch]

only other solution is hold the rifle tighter

Older rifles aren't designed with comfort in mind

Built to give and take beatings

Part of my love for my vz24

[astral thorn]

I love my M38 even if it is turkshit

[proven badger]

anyone know a good dry fire shot timer app that detects the dry fire noise?

It might not exist, I figured someone in here might know

[placid basin]

@unique fjord yo what suppressor do you have on your spear and does it have a tendency to walk off?

[unique fjord]

Czech perfection

[misty cove]

hell yeah

[misty cove]

they had like one of the best light tanks early war

[modest hatch]

Beautiful

[thin cypress]

I think mantis can do something similar but you have to run their shit

[golden marlin]

Not really

Just get a shot timer for that

[golden marlin]

Waist of money tbh

[thin cypress]

No argument here

[carmine tide]

Russia didnt give soldiers more than 1 clip not bc they couldn't afford to but bc slavs are too dumb to know how to reload

[round sentinel]

Certainly more intelligent than you

[carmine tide]

Wrong, I comprehend sending 60 bodies at 1 machine gun is a bad idea

[round sentinel]

Would you say the same if those 60 people were an ethnic minority or political party you hate

[carmine tide]

Were?

They are

Its still stupid

[round sentinel]

Confix failed even basic reading comprehension

[carmine tide]

Youre saying IF I hated them

Im saying I DO hate them

And I still think it's a dumb idea

[round sentinel]

How would you feel if you didn’t eat breakfast this morning

[carmine tide]

Nice try liberal id be hungry

[golden marlin]

I didn't

[round sentinel]

See, was it that hard to answer the question?

[misty cove]

I wouldnt be surprised if confixs parents were like Polish or Czech imigrants

Ol

Lol

[round sentinel]

They aren’t

[golden marlin]

[round sentinel]

He’s an inbred, I mean southerner

[carmine tide]

Im a 2nd gen american

[round sentinel]

And?

These aren’t mutually exclusive

[carmine tide]

Im not some Slavic monkey

[carmine tide]

My mom is from Germany and my dad is from Ireland

[misty cove]

Bait or low iq

[carmine tide]

Neither

Slavs are knuckle dragging apes

Look at ukraine

[round sentinel]

He’s genuinely stupid

[carmine tide]

Do i need to list some "technological marvels" designed by them

Like the foxbat

[misty cove]

Clearly some Smart apes given the americans rival was the eastern block (mostly słavs)

[carmine tide]

The su57

Berkut

The as val

[misty cove]

What's bad about that interceptor

Other then a few engine problems

[round sentinel]

implying the Berkut isn’t a marvel of mechanical design

[misty cove]

What is the.berkut

[round sentinel]

Saying it isn’t is a massively braindead take

[misty cove]

I forgot

[carmine tide]

The fact that its engines died after 3000 flight hours, the structure was made of steel, the radar sucked

[misty cove]

The su 57 isn't that bad either

[round sentinel]

It’s not bad at all yeah

[carmine tide]

It also only has 3 ever built and none saw combat

[round sentinel]

It’s a p solid airframe

[carmine tide]

It has wood screws

[round sentinel]

So you don’t even know shit about the programs. Got it

[misty cove]

Fuck was the structures suposed to be made out of? Titanium?

[round sentinel]

The SU47

[misty cove]

Oh that thing

[round sentinel]

The airframe contract designed to determine which company would manufacture the next gen airframe, which would become the 57

The SU47 was an insanely good airframe from a design standpoint and blew mig outta the water

[misty cove]

Doesnt the su30 have a smaller radar signature then the f15 lol?

[round sentinel]

Iirc yeah

[carmine tide]

Yes?

Thats what we do

[misty cove]

Doesnt only the sr71 have that

[carmine tide]

No

[misty cove]

And IT Has like 2 made

[carmine tide]

There were more sr71s than Russia has built su57s

[round sentinel]

That’s untrue

[carmine tide]

Russia has what 27

[misty cove]

And those numbers arę from what

2022?

[carmine tide]

If a combat aircraft doesn't see combat its a failed design

[round sentinel]

It’s not a combat aircraft

You are proving my point

[carmine tide]

Its a fighter jet

[round sentinel]

It was a contract determination aircraft

Not a production aircraft

Very different ball game

[carmine tide]

Russia has a bigger issue than nazi Germany designing super weapons that either arent real or don't perform how they say it does

[round sentinel]

Yeah. They are

Production is somewhere around 70-80 range now of the M1 model

With a proposed M2 soon

2027 iirc

[misty cove]

If u go by this point but tanks then the majority of american designes were failures

[round sentinel]

Let alone the Russian insanely well designed rockets

That’s their biggest marvel

[misty cove]

Algeria bought like 30 no

[carmine tide]

Correct

[lone moss]

Oh lordly lord

[round sentinel]

As far as I’m aware, no, nobody else has 57’s

[carmine tide]

You dont see me calling shit like the yf71 or thunderscreech a successful design

[round sentinel]

Welcome to ‘confix has the most braindead takes’ live show

[carmine tide]

The unidentified totally not Russia country from top gun maverick

[misty cove]

algeria does

[lone moss]

Algeria has 2, rest are in Russia

[round sentinel]

Ahh yeah they just got two a week ago

That’s funny af

Well. Shown off a week ago

[misty cove]

doesnt it have fucking su27 engines lmao

[round sentinel]

Not sure about that tbh

Regardless the 57 is a p decent airframe itself. But since it’s Russia, it’s lacking in the electronics department

[misty cove]

the mig 23 and 27 are so cool imo

[lone moss]

Gripen is the best plane ever made anyways so

[round sentinel]

Kek

I wonder how we would’ve guess you’d say that

[misty cove]

nuh uh

[carmine tide]

Wrong

The meme answer is the f14

The true answer is the f15e

[round sentinel]

none of these being the F22

[lone moss]

Aye man last time they did false flags with f35s vs gripen e’s, they just electronic warfared the shit out of the f35s and got in visual range and absolutely destroyed them in a dog fight, stealth is great until you can fight back with electronics

[misty cove]

the best is the pzl 130

[carmine tide]

Too expensive and already replaced by the f35

[round sentinel]

Except that latter comment isn’t true at all

Lmao

[misty cove]

stealth is great until it doesnt work and you run out of budget

[carmine tide]

The US military has no budget

[round sentinel]

Tbf those are pretty even playing field overall yeah

[misty cove]

right it just debttraps the country

[misty cove]

i once saw a guy say i think 10 f35s over 200 mig29s?

or smth

[lone moss]

They really are they play strengths well and both are good aircraft, two different ways of filling the same purpose

[misty cove]

not sure if upgraded ones or not but prboably

[round sentinel]

Yup. They really do

[lone moss]

I’m curious to see what Saab can do in a fifth gen aircraft considering their 4.5 is taking on 5th gen’s

[misty cove]

ngl confix sounds like a trump voter

''everything american is best trump is lord and everything russian sucks''

[round sentinel]

Lmao, real

[misty cove]

isnt saab focused on cheap small shit

[lone moss]

Not really

[round sentinel]

Downplaying our enemy is how we get fucked

Source: Russia did it

[misty cove]

french knight mindset

[round sentinel]

Yeah

We are not untouchable even right now

Let alone if we allow stagnation to occur

[carmine tide]

I didnt vote for trump

[misty cove]

3 f15s lost to allies 🤣

[carmine tide]

I dont vote for democrats

[round sentinel]

“Allies”

[carmine tide]

The f15 was shot down not bc of Kuwait but bc it was a woman pilot

[round sentinel]

If you think those are democrats, then you need to touch up on political history

[carmine tide]

Hes a 90s new york democrat

[round sentinel]

Oh here he fucking goes. Anything but have a rational thought

[misty cove]

kinda like u and the t72

[lone moss]

Saab makes a lot of shit you probably don’t realize

[round sentinel]

Yknow the NTSB determined women are actually safer in the cockpit than male pilots

[lone moss]

Less risk

[round sentinel]

Per actual accident investigations

[misty cove]

cars 🔥

[round sentinel]

Yup

[slate ocean]

.460 S&W

[lone moss]

Same reason why women’s car insurance is cheaper lmao

[round sentinel]

Nah see the T72 is actually just a pos

Go ask any of your tankers

[lone moss]

Try at4’s, submarines and a lot of missiles on top of cars

[misty cove]

for the time it was good

[round sentinel]

But a scope on it

[misty cove]

oh yea htat too

[round sentinel]

Arguable

It was ok

[misty cove]

yknow its funy how britain makes like half oft he f35

[misty cove]

autoloader = less crew
small not that slow
preety good armor
decent gun

[slate ocean]

Honestly dont think theres a pistol optic that'll hold up to the pressures that thing produces

[round sentinel]

Not true actually

The 460’s are common to see with leupolds and Burris magnum scopes

They are rated for that

[slate ocean]

Yeah a rifle scope. Not needed for it

[round sentinel]

That’s a pistol scope

[carmine tide]

Yea until the ammo cooks off

[slate ocean]

#turrettosschampions

[round sentinel]

I have one of the leupold 2x pistol scopes on my silhouette pistol. They are p great

Yeah that’s a pretty major issue

Or the motors being absolutely abysmal

[misty cove]

every tank had that problem lol

[round sentinel]

No, no they don’t

[carmine tide]

No they dont

Well ones properly designed with blow out ammo racks anyway

[slate ocean]

They made blow out panels for a reason lmao

[misty cove]

yeah

[round sentinel]

Their specific turret blows sky high with a ammo hit

[misty cove]

but not many tanks have that

[carmine tide]

But Russia doesn't care about casualties or combat efectiveness they care about making the cheapest shit possible

[slate ocean]

Every tank other than T series does

[round sentinel]

That’s not entirely true

[carmine tide]

Western tanks do

[misty cove]

at the time literlayl ike no tanks had blow out panels

[misty cove]

the chalanger doesnt i think?

half of the leopard ammo is stored next to the driver

[round sentinel]

I was referring to confix’s braindead take again

[misty cove]

i have no clue about the leclerc or ariete

[misty cove]

oh

[misty cove]

no lol

[carmine tide]

Russia literally prides itself on how many losses they take

They write folk songs about it

[round sentinel]

(They don’t)

[carmine tide]

Yea this is just slav lover cope

[golden marlin]

They don't

[round sentinel]

I literally hate the Russians lmao

[golden marlin]

Russians attack each other on their losses a lot

[round sentinel]

God forbid we take our enemy seriously

And acknowledge their very legitimate capabilities

[carmine tide]

I take russia seriously but im not going to call them intelligent

[golden marlin]

Like the soldiers are treated like shit

[round sentinel]

Then you would be wrong

It’s that simple

[carmine tide]

They dont even equip their soldiers with optics

[round sentinel]

They are extremely intelligent and competitive

[misty cove]

confix the type of guy to say the su57 is comparable to the f4

[round sentinel]

Not equipping optics doesn’t make them stupid

[misty cove]

yeah they use indians as cannon fodder

[carmine tide]

No thats stupid

[round sentinel]

That shit is so based

Or the NK’s

Literally anyone but pure Russian blood

[carmine tide]

I thought the nk soldiers were too busy gooning to fight

[slate ocean]

And Africans and NK agents as well

[round sentinel]

🙏

[misty cove]

the war is so stupid

corupt oligarchic dictatorship vs corupt oligarchic state (maybe dictatorship idk we'll see)

[round sentinel]

Ayup

[lone moss]

I’m just sadge for the Iranian f14’s, poor cats

[misty cove]

mig 29 is awesome

@round sentinel so whats bad about the t72

when it came out

[carmine tide]

Im putting together a team to steal one

[round sentinel]

Bro everyone has told you like 8 times now

[misty cove]

nuh uh

for the time it was preety good

[round sentinel]

[carmine tide]

What year is it now

[misty cove]

2026

[carmine tide]

Exactly

[lone moss]

Bro the T72 is ass

Basically a walking tinder box waiting to be ammo racked

Cramped fighting compartment, shit performance, shit armor, shit crews, and a shit design

[carmine tide]

Anti tank weapons of the time could send the turret sky high

[misty cove]

for like 1970 it was good

[carmine tide]

Imagine what modern ones do

[carmine tide]

It wasnt

[lone moss]

No it wasn’t lmao

[carmine tide]

At all

Russia does not design good shit

[misty cove]

from front? no?

[carmine tide]

They made an ok assault rifle that literal apes can use thats it

[carmine tide]

Nobody is shooting a tank from the front who has any kind of training

Maybe a war thunder player would

[misty cove]

yeah i guess if its facing you you just dont shooti t then

?

literaly anti tank weapoins from fucking ww2 can desotry all mbts from the side

[carmine tide]

You mobility kill it and flank

[lone moss]

Even Bradley’s are pimp smacking T90s in Ukraine, and a T90 is a better t72

[carmine tide]

That is basic infantry movement 101

[lone moss]

It’s an ass tank

[carmine tide]

Or yes you run from it

[misty cove]

the bradley destroyed the sights and the t90 tried runing

and hit a tree

[lone moss]

That’s still a tank down vs a fucking ifv

Get ratioed

[misty cove]

that can hapen with literaly a fucking 50 cal

i guess 50cal > abrams or something?

[carmine tide]

An extremely old IFV

[lone moss]

This ^

[carmine tide]

Most actual tank kills are mobility kills

The only reason Russian tanks end up as destroyed as they are is bc of their garbage design and autoloaders

[misty cove]

what about the destroyed abrams's and leopards?

[lone moss]

If an ifv can take down a mbt regardless of the scenarios it’s a pretty shit tank

[carmine tide]

The only tank thats better than the Abrams is the leopard and Germany cant make enough for it to matter

[carmine tide]

Not on the same level as Russian tank losses

[lone moss]

Also most are lost to drones or atgms

[carmine tide]

Plus you've got stupid slavs welding shit to the take with those cages then wonder why the added weight stresses the transmission and engine and they break down

[misty cove]

then are all tanks shit?

[carmine tide]

Anti tank weaponry has surpassed tank design decades ago

The smartest thing the marines ever did was get rid of their tanks

[misty cove]

unless you hit the autoloader then no not realy

[lone moss]

No we sent refurbed old model Abram’s with minimal loses

The American Abrams’s have more armor and more tech

[carmine tide]

At this point its european cope to try to compare your failed continent to the US

[misty cove]

''failed continent''

[carmine tide]

Yes failed continent

[misty cove]

why is like almost every major us city a shithole

in some way

[carmine tide]

Bc people who think like europeans run them

[misty cove]

more armor? yeah but they also weigh like 20 tons more

and are alot bigger

[lone moss]

Iirc Ukraine has only lost about 5-6k armored vehicles, while Russian has lost over 11k

That’s pretty much a 2:1 ratio

[misty cove]

what qualifies as an armored vehicle tho

[slate ocean]

And have over 500 more horsepower let alone the torque difference as american transmissions actually hold up

[misty cove]

thats if you dont sink in mud

[lone moss]

Apcs, ifvs, tanks, light armored transport

[modest hatch]

Listening to an Abrams spin up is quite a sound to hear

[lone moss]

I don’t understand why you’re so gung ho about the t72 vs the Abram’s when the Abram’s is literally a better tank on paper and everywhere else, a simple google of stats would tell you it’s superior just in tech alone

[carmine tide]

Gonna ls swap an Abrams and run a 10 in the 1/4

[misty cove]

nah

[carmine tide]

Was the t72 in desert storm

[misty cove]

the t72 now is a piece of shit

but in like 1970? it was decent i guess

big improvement over a fucking t62 or t55 tho

[slate ocean]

Or hear me out. Drop the turbine in a dually and full send that bitch

[lone moss]

No it wasn’t decent in 1970 either lmao

[slate ocean]

Yes

[carmine tide]

The Abrams was also around in the 70s

[hushed salmon]

Depends. If your enemy has Abrams, you can't compare unless you have the ultimate advantage/ambush.

[carmine tide]

The m1 was built in 76

[lone moss]

Iirc yes they were in the Persian gulf war

[misty cove]

79 yeah

produced

[slate ocean]

The ones in Ukraine are an upgraded model mainly used by Australians produced by the US in 07

[misty cove]

yuh

[carmine tide]

I rest my case

[misty cove]

its still beter compared to what some countries have

and like

iraq buying t55s for whatever reason?

[carmine tide]

What countries nigeria?

[misty cove]

like half the middle east

[carmine tide]

South Africa still running pattons?

[lone moss]

T72 is the bottom of the barrel now lmao

[misty cove]

more then half

[modest hatch]

Bc they were cheap

[misty cove]

nah bottom of the barrel is t55

[slate ocean]

No shit. There's only 3 superpowers in the world and only a handful of countries have the GDP to pump new tech out. Everyone else gets hand-me-downs

[lone moss]

Olifant

[misty cove]

fenturion 🔥🔥

[lone moss]

Dude it’s okay to admit some Soviet era tech sucks

[carmine tide]

Even the jews make a better tank than the t72

[lone moss]

No one cares

[misty cove]

yuh

[slate ocean]

Fuckin magach

[carmine tide]

Nah he has to cling on that his type of European makes something good

[thin cypress]

Only 1520 on brownells for a geissele super duty rn 🧐

[misty cove]

what state are u from?

[carmine tide]

SC

[misty cove]

literaly just a m60 or m48

lol

[carmine tide]

We helped make the US

[slate ocean]

So did the Spaniards and brits

[misty cove]

yeah that explains it

[round sentinel]

[hushed salmon]

Western tanks always outperform Russian

[slate ocean]

Lmao wut

[carmine tide]

Yet youre the one defending the t72

[thin cypress]

M1 Abram’s enters chat

[misty cove]

alr il be back later

[round sentinel]

The only reason he does is cause he holds a grudge against the Leopard

Kek

[slate ocean]

Or any eastern European tech other than the AK platform

[misty cove]

maybe

[carmine tide]

Western IFVs outperform Russian tanks

[round sentinel]

Kek

[round sentinel]

And that would be a wonderfully ignorant statement

[modest hatch]

Only credit I'll give Soviet era stuff is small arms. They did some good stuff there but that's credit to the designers than the country itself.

[hushed salmon]

First Lebanon war merkavas m60s and centurions made short work of anything the Syrians had

[slate ocean]

How so?

[carmine tide]

I would do dirty horrendous things to drive a leopard

[round sentinel]

ignoring any and all space development

Probably the smartest space engineers period

[carmine tide]

The centurion was a revolutionary design

[slate ocean]

Generally speaking the AK platform is a solid platform. Not saying its the best but it has stood the test of time

[thin cypress]

Only people to put shit on Venus and it survive for a bit is all I’m saying

[modest hatch]

Not my area of study to comment on

[carmine tide]

Is that why most modern countries adopted an ar platform

[hushed salmon]

Russian tanks are great in their own way. They just can't compare to Western.

[round sentinel]

Because they make plenty of good things, and plenty of shit things. Much like our own country

[carmine tide]

Russian tanks are cheap

Thats their only advantage

[round sentinel]

Logistics plays the largest role, followed by the modern control sets due to our aftermarket

[carmine tide]

Their armor, ammunition, reliability and electronics are inferior

[slate ocean]

Like I said before. Not the best platform but it typically is reliable and shoots a decent round. Im not an AK lover but I do acknowledge tech that has stood up.

[misty cove]

Fuck USA bro making my gas prices high

[round sentinel]

Yesnt. The operating system holds up, its controls were dated even by 40’s standards

[thin cypress]

I’m not so sure the new Russian armor they’ve come out with is actually not bad they just don’t have the funds or means to mass produce it

[round sentinel]

The manufacturing was revolutionary in the era, but that has also fallen out of favor

[carmine tide]

If they cant build it who gives a shit

[modest hatch]

They are. The mass production, the bare bones functionality. Quite good, when looked at from a manufacturing standpoint. From a combat standpoint: quantity is a quality of its own

[thin cypress]

I will say the only handheld “weapon system” the US has that’s like 50+ years advanced over others is night vision

[slate ocean]

Im speaking on military technologies. Idgaf about anything else atm lol

[lone moss]

Lmao

[carmine tide]

"I created personal body armor that stops 20mm and the BFD doesnt turn your organs to mush, it just costs 2 million and an 8 ball of coke to make and uses materials only mined on venus"

Ok who cares at that point

[round sentinel]

I am as well

[lone moss]

[modest hatch]

Yeah. Cool we can do it once and that once was in that test we ran to prove it. We'll need another year to make another

[carmine tide]

If its too expensive to employ in any kind of quantity its a detriment we learned this lesson with nazi superweapons

[thin cypress]

Iran* Aramco situation lol

[slate ocean]

What eastern European tech holds a candle to western counterparts other than the AK?

[lone moss]

Literally this

[misty cove]

Svd

[carmine tide]

Speaking of nazi Germany @hushed salmon perhaps I judged big yahu too harshly

[round sentinel]

Lol no

[slate ocean]

No longer produced

[misty cove]

Ok true

Pk series

[carmine tide]

FN mag

[slate ocean]

SVD hasn't been produced since the early 2000s

[round sentinel]

In terms of guns, the Grot and Bren are both solid Eastern European and hold up well

[thin cypress]

Russian weapons development “I want AK but big”

[misty cove]

Pk machinę guns arę food

[round sentinel]

Regardless on opinions of specific feature choices

[misty cove]

Good

And ukm

[slate ocean]

Unless im mixing it up with the draganov

[thin cypress]

“I want AK but for long range”

[carmine tide]

The svd isnt an ak

[round sentinel]

It looks damn similar but yeah. It has a diff operating system

[carmine tide]

Different operating systems

[thin cypress]

You’re right it’s long range AK

[carmine tide]

It isnt an ak

[lone moss]

It isn’t an ak

[carmine tide]

I hate basically anything Russian but im not gonna be wrong in the reasons I hate them

[lone moss]

Even me being ak tarded knows the svd is different

[thin cypress]

SVD = long range AK
AK = AK
PKM = Fast AK

[modest hatch]

Thought fast AK was RPK?

[slate ocean]

Yes

[thin cypress]

Many flavors of AK into the Russian development pie

[slate ocean]

PKM= high capacity heavy bullet AK

[ocean pike]

Ak bad

[round sentinel]

See at least the RPK is actually an AK

[thin cypress]

This guy knows Ball

[hushed salmon]

Why's that

[carmine tide]

Did you not see him defending h man?

[thin cypress]

AS Val = quiet AK

[hushed salmon]

Defending who

[carmine tide]

@round sentinel im going to beat him with a hammer

[carmine tide]

Hitler

[thin cypress]

Get ragebaited

[carmine tide]

Get hammered

[hushed salmon]

What are you talking about lol

[slate ocean]

VSS= quiet aks cousin

[carmine tide]

Lol he said Hitler never wanted to kill jews until Muslims told him it was a good idea and that he wasn't that bad

[thin cypress]

Younger brother from different dad

[carmine tide]

You really haven't seen the clip?

[round sentinel]

I don’t wanna hear it from you

[slate ocean]

Inbred*

[thin cypress]

Missing chromo

[carmine tide]

I have never once said the svd was an ak or the ak is just a stg44

[round sentinel]

Yeah ok this was actually true. But he ofc changed his mind and was already insane by the original point anyways.

[modest hatch]

SR-3M: the second cousin?

[thin cypress]

STG44 = Grandpa AK

[slate ocean]

Wrong nation lol

[blazing temple]

Maybe if you actually had reserves or your own sources you wouldn't have this problem

[lone moss]

LMFAO

[carmine tide]

Sold it all to russia

[thin cypress]

No no I know it’s German it’s the AK’s grandpa

[hushed salmon]

That never happened.

[modest hatch]

Wait wouldn't the m1 garand be grandpa? following design history

[carmine tide]

Hold on I'll find the clip lmao

[round sentinel]

It would be the model 81 not the garand

[thin cypress]

Without STG44 no one would have legitimately looked into intermediate cartridges cause big H man said SMG good enough

[round sentinel]

(Wrong)

[hushed salmon]

Yes yes. Please do find the video where bibi says Hitler wasn't bad. Eagerly awaiting

[round sentinel]

We already had intermediate guns, as did the Italians, and the Brit’s were messing with it

[carmine tide]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=PJkUBSMaBbX5mnLq&v=f9HmkRYlVZw&feature=youtu.be

[carmine tide]

Found it

[thin cypress]

I’m not saying no one had them I’m saying STG44 played big part in its further research

[blazing temple]

Which ai do we think made this one

[slate ocean]

The BAR was around

[round sentinel]

Tbh, not really. Everyone already reached the same conclusion

[carmine tide]

30-06 is NOT intermediate

[blazing temple]

The fg42 was a better and more important development than the mp44/stg44

[thin cypress]

This part

[round sentinel]

The stg’s biggest development push was into the HK/ Cetme family

[hushed salmon]

Now timestamp the part where bibi said Hitler wasn't bad.

[thin cypress]

FG42 goes hard

[modest hatch]

Laughing more than I should at the thought 30-06 being an intermediate

[slate ocean]

Yes but no. Intermediate is pretty vague considering either it was belt fed or SMG. Full auto infantry weapon not in a sub caliber but not belt fed can be classified as Intermediate

Size of the round had nothing to do with it at the time

[round sentinel]

30-06 is not vague in that case

The 6.5 carc however, could be considered one

[carmine tide]

The fg42's failure was tied to Hitler not liking paratroops due to the failed operation in sicily(?) Since it was mainly issued to fallschirmjager units

[thin cypress]

It’s based on power of the round 💀

[carmine tide]

That was a different quote my bad about his views on the holocaust

[slate ocean]

Wasn't trying to say it was intermediate. The gun itself is in the intermediate confines considering its uses

[carmine tide]

Was wrong on that

[round sentinel]

Yeah, and even technically modern definition, intermediate is still vague

[carmine tide]

Its the pdw argument all over again

[modest hatch]

I know you weren't but I had thought about it and I found it greatly amusing

[slate ocean]

I chuckled as well

[carmine tide]

Nobody knows what a pdw is

[round sentinel]

Kinda kek

[thin cypress]

I raise you semi auto smg (but for the pocket)

[round sentinel]

PDW is even more vague tho

[carmine tide]

Pistol caliber carbine

[round sentinel]

Since it can be applied to almost any class of firearm

[slate ocean]

Germans do. MP7 is arguably the best pdw in service

[misty cove]

Simonov was making intermedia te gun for a bit

[carmine tide]

You rn

[round sentinel]

(It’s argued to be the worst)

[thin cypress]

4.6 is probably the worst round you could use 💀

[round sentinel]

And the gun is super abusive on parts

[slate ocean]

Alright

[round sentinel]

~30k service life

[thin cypress]

Rotex suppressor says please help

[carmine tide]

So was my ex

[slate ocean]

Yall got me

I spoke out of my ass on that one ngl

[carmine tide]

Meanwhile mp5s have a reported life of what 80k and can last 200k

[round sentinel]

For actual HK’s yeah

[misty cove]

Even if we Had sources eu would probably block it

Like with coal mines

[carmine tide]

Also i ordered an sp5L and im just gonna have the barrel cut

[round sentinel]

Based. Go nuclear instead

[misty cove]

Yea but that Tales money

[thin cypress]

Just do it yourself like ruby ridge

[misty cove]

And u can still export coal

[lone moss]

Brother

[carmine tide]

Gunsmith work on an HK is significantly harder than on an ar

[carmine tide]

I got it for 1800 from work

[thin cypress]

I’m not sure how me saying use a bandsaw is hard

[carmine tide]

Costs 200 to chop it and redo the tri lug

[true mist]

best only in the context of video game vibes as far as i can tell

[carmine tide]

A normal sp5 is like 3000-3200

[lone moss]

It’s really not actually roller delay is stupid easy and building an mp5 can be done with a press and a cheap ass welder

[carmine tide]

Same thing for a grand less is dumb to pass up

[carmine tide]

Yea idk how to weld

[slate ocean]

Ehhhh I fucked around with them a bit and loved them but haven't had one for prolonged use

[lone moss]

It’s very easy

[carmine tide]

And something like a firearm is not something I want to learn on

[lone moss]

There’s hella jigs out for mp5 stuff

[carmine tide]

Cool im not learning to weld on something that explodes right next to my face

[thin cypress]

You can literally just get a stamped pre welded MP5 receiver for 750

Send to LGS and then buy from hkparts

[carmine tide]

Lmao

Hkparts is the last place you wanna go

They overcharge the fuck out of you

[slate ocean]

Its only a 9mm cartridge. Wear glasses and youll be fine😂

[lone moss]

Not me experimenting with explosives in a tube next to my face

[carmine tide]

Well youre ugly if you blow up your face nothing is lost

[thin cypress]

Because a G36C parts kit only being 3k is overcharging 💀

[modest hatch]

NASA is actually an excellent source for this.

[lone moss]

Idk my wife might be a little sadge

[thin cypress]

Actually only 1500 right now 🧐

[lone moss]

Okay but why the fuck was nasa stress testing mp5’s

[thin cypress]

DOE or some shit 👀

[modest hatch]

That's what their security used

[carmine tide]

Moons haunted

[lone moss]

Has to be

[misty cove]

They ran out of ideas

[lone moss]

Interesting figured they would have ended up with doe stuff

[thin cypress]

Probably had the funds to test that no one else did

[carmine tide]

We spent 5 trillion on Africa imagine if we sent that money to useful places

[modest hatch]

But remembered that as credit to Confix recalling the round count life span for the mp5

[carmine tide]

I think it was the JDF who had a mp5 last 200k

[modest hatch]

Likely

Here's something recent about some higher round counts
https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/My-experiences-with-high-round-count-HK-s-and-HK-clones/9-476802/

Tldr: MP5 having 500k rounds and still going with part replacements is not unheard of

[lone moss]

H&K kinda do be known for higher round count guns, mark 23 also being in that club

[round sentinel]

Ayup

The Mark also does it without part replacement kek

[thin cypress]

The kraut magic keeps them running

[lone moss]

Wellll if we wanna count the barrel o ring

But yes

[round sentinel]

Me when the lack of O ring means it’s on par accuracy wise with any normal service pistol

[lone moss]

REAL

[round sentinel]

Average mk23 W

[lone moss]

when you can’t do dueling trees at 100 yards because your o ring failed

[round sentinel]

[lone moss]

It’s surprisingly easy to hit shit at 100 with the mark

Even with the .45 drop

[round sentinel]

I mean yeah, it’s a 4moa gun. It’s p damn easy

[lone moss]

I had no problem putting like a 6-7 inch group together at 100

[round sentinel]

I shoot out to 2-300 with the mark and it’s still not bad

[round sentinel]

It really do be that Shrimple

[lone moss]

I haven’t gone that far yet but I’d like to

It’s funny because you can see the rounds lmao

[round sentinel]

Ikr lmao

[blazing temple]

Raaah I need the atf to hurry up and give me my can

[slate ocean]

is it your first can purchase?

[lone moss]

Me still waiting on a form 1 from the 29th of Jan

[blazing temple]

No

[slate ocean]

thats weird. my experiences with cans after the first is no more than 3 weeks. maybe im lucky ig

[blazing temple]

It hasn't even been 2 yet

[slate ocean]

silencer central has been my best friend as of lately

[slate ocean]

oh lol

[scenic jetty]

Let me shoot your mk23

[lone moss]

It’s a toss up tbh

I had one can take 2 weeks, had my dd take one week and still waiting on a form 1

[slate ocean]

ive got 6 rn and other than the first one all the others have been no more than 3 weeks

[lone moss]

It’s still a random luck thing, I’ve seen people get sub 24hour approvals and some are still waiting on form 4s from Jan

Just the way she goes

[round sentinel]

Sure kek

[slate ocean]

cant wait until theyre taken off of the NFA registry

[lone moss]

Yeahhh but until then gotta play by the rules

[carmine tide]

The moment they do states will pass state level taxes on em that are more expensive than what they used to cost

And itll be perfectly legal

[unique fjord]

Come to Virginia and get taxed for walking your dog

[atomic stream]

Got a blem Boyd’s stock on sale could have done a better job inletting, it been a lot of fun as a range toy shooting Greek 198gr

[thorny flame]

@hushed salmon they going to rotate you into lebanon or what

[hushed salmon]

Not me. I'm Gaza division. I exclusively operate there on regular rotation or in an emergency reinforce some random southern desert border surrounded by nothing.

I haven't worked in the Lebanon theatre for almost 20 years. I'd be rusty as hell and not acclimated to terrain or climate.

[thorny flame]

oic

[unique fjord]

That poor rifle got abused by a bad owner ):

[leaden mist]

why

not trying tobe sarcastic i just dont understand

[atomic stream]

I wish I could the original stock. it’s beautiful and someone before me added bit of horn but it has a bad crack going vertically down the mounting holes and into the wrist. I just want to shoot for now.

[unique fjord]

Just means you can destroy it and not care too much

[atomic stream]

The ammo I’m using is already kinda sketchy id like a solid stock I want to see about getting the original repaired I just don’t know how, luckily the rifle was a beater to the previous owner as well

Whole thing including the optic was like 400 with shipping and fees

[unique fjord]

i mainly use surp yugo and german 8mm

p hit or miss lol

but banging steel with germ steel/titanium core fun

[atomic stream]

I’ve gone through around 160 rounds of this greek surp and haven’t had a failure to fire yet but some rounds hang for a fraction of second before detonating I think it’s a light firing pin spring issue with how consistent it is I was looking at yugo ammo but Greek is like 1/2 price and not dangerous like the Turkish surplus

[atomic stream]

thumping 200 yard plates is very fun especially when it’s wet out, quite the show

[jaunty crane]

idk unrelated but i've got
a geiselle discount code im not going to use or atleast before the time to use it runs out
does anybody want it?

okay that comes across as really shady nevermind i said that

[red salmon]

I’d maybe yoink it

[jaunty crane]

i mean idk do i put it in your dms?

[thorny flame]

just buy an upper or something

unfortunate OOS

[jaunty crane]

I'm
17
I dont actually have a proper job yet
I only have like 70$ saved right now
I just ordered a trigger and bolt catch not long ago

hence why im giving away the code since I have no use for it

[thorny flame]

okay well yeah in that case you need a job

[modest hatch]

the untapped function of the body, turning labor into firearms

[placid basin]

last 5 paychecks were immediately turned into a firearm, accessories for said firearm, or ammo

[unique fjord]

buys one
Barely 2y later
has 10

[thin cypress]

Brownells has a super duty right now (minus lower) with gov/le pricing for 1500

[thorny flame]

Not the same sku

[thin cypress]

Most of you don’t need a heavy barrel

[echo cairn]

But heavy means more better

[placid basin]

heavy means more heavy

[amber lichen]

whats a good reddot magnifier combo I can put on my 410 ar-15 my budget is 300 each

[ivory violet]

someone on tacswap was giving away like 30+ 35% geiselle coupons for free

dudes santa in disguise

[hot locust]

@golden marlin what the hell is 224 Valk and why is the XCR available in that caliber

I lowk want an XCRM Mini or an XCRL mini

Would probably be nice go bag guns

better than my probably haunted sentient P320

[hushed salmon]

$600 total? Holosun 510 and hm3x

[round sentinel]

Based take

224 valk is essentially just a larger volume case .223 bullet. More of a precision rifle cartridge

I wanna get the 6.8 barrel for my XCR-L Micro

Already have the 556 and 300

[hot locust]

hmmm

8.6 blackout xcrl mini

vaporize the robber at 2 am

and the 15 friends precariously stacked up behind him

[round sentinel]

At least you recognize peak rifle platform 😌

[true mist]

seconding the holosun recommendation, the H510 and ARO magnifier combos are sub 500 and sub 400 respectively on primary arms