irl-weapons

[scenic jetty]

but i have time when im off so

[pulsar torrent]

Head, naped a possum

[true mist]

💀

at least we're going to bury him on property

we have a little spot by our front paddock where we've buried a couple animals with little crosses ive made

like a feral cat that was killed by a car, and a baby bunny that got stepped on by a horse

[pulsar torrent]

Jesus

Rip bunny

[true mist]

girlfriend and i really wanted to take care of it and raise it at least until its eyes opened, but we foster cats so inside was a no-go

made it a little hay shelter, but someone accidentally stepped on it

he was really cute though, this is him when we first found him while doing yard work

[carmine tide]

This one is mil/Leo only iirc

[noble nimbus]

Hk m27 iar & the hk 437/g39 PDW

[ivory kestrel]

Hello ive got a question. Ive bought and assembled WBP Jack with KPYK parts and WBP dovetail mount. Dovetail and piccantiny rail on gas block doesnt seem to hold zero at all. Is it worth taking it to gunsmith or its just AK thing and should I sell it all?

[tall rivet]

It would be worth it to take it to a gunsmith and ask them that question

Ask if it’s worth them fixing it or if it’s spare parts

[golden marlin]

So when it comes to the handguard

Since the kpyk is mlok

I wouldn't entirely expect it to hold zero

Mlok generally isn't a good host for that

And even some of the best mlok handguards generally still has a 8moa shift

It should still hold a relative zero that ok but not great which comes down to the assembly

Making sure the screws are down tight and locktited

[ivory kestrel]

Well on gas block it was shifting like half meter on 100m range which was weird

But honestly I wasnt expecting much from it. I was hoping for dovetail to work

[golden marlin]

Good dovetails should hold

I have used them before I've never had any issues

I have a zenitco mount

And when it's locked down its not coming off

[ivory kestrel]

Oh

Well Ive adjusted mine, so im able to take it off

[golden marlin]

Im using it as a figure of speech

[ivory kestrel]

So if I make it as tight as possible, it should get better?

[golden marlin]

Real quick

Is it a lever or just a screw

[ivory kestrel]

lever

[golden marlin]

Close the lever and torque the screw down

It should have good resistance when you depress the lever but still slide off easy when you open

But that should hold

If you're still having issues

Check the barrel over

Sometimes mlok slots they give you screws that are too long

And you don't want them contacting the barrel

Or else that will throw your zero off

[ivory kestrel]

Ill check it rn

[golden marlin]

👍

[ivory kestrel]

Also when shooting, the grouping acted strange

So there were no big shifts between each shot

I shot 5, it was in almost same spot, I put the gun away, loaded mag and when I shot again it was like 30cm away

The entire group

[golden marlin]

What optic you using?

Also during the assembly you used locktite correct?

[ivory kestrel]

Delta optics 1x prismatic sight 1moa

[golden marlin]

Im not very familiar with that company

Where did you mount it?

[ivory kestrel]

So Ive checked the handguard, the screws seem to be short, they are not coliding with barrel anywhere

[golden marlin]

Ok good

Where did you mount the optic

On the handguard?

[ivory kestrel]

Well it was on handguard just to check if its faulty too on range

But it has to be on mount, otherwise the front is too heavy for me

[golden marlin]

Don't mount prisms on handguards

You may have increased the parallax

And noticed a shift cause you were slightly shifted off from your original position

If you had it there originally

Or my guess thermal drift

[ivory kestrel]

Ive mounted it on handguard after ive noticed that shift

thermal drift?

Rn im trying to tighten that screw on mount as much as it allows

[golden marlin]

If you had it on the handguard and it heated up while the optic was on it

Heat will affect performance

Groupings will open up when the barrel is hot

And I can see a mlok handguard also shifting a little as the material expands a little

[golden marlin]

You don't have to go crazy but should be relatively tight

[ivory kestrel]

Now I have to use some force to take it off, quite a bit of force

But its not dramatic

I hope it works

So now if I check it again

And its still bad what could be other cause?

Could sight be faulty or it shouldnt be possible?

[golden marlin]

Definitely try another sight

[ivory kestrel]

jesus christ thats money

[golden marlin]

If it comes down to it

Like the cheapest prism I use is the primary arms ones

Cause they are built tough

[ivory kestrel]

Oh I see

[golden marlin]

Holosun is also a company I've used too

[ivory kestrel]

Same price as mine

[golden marlin]

Yeah

[ivory kestrel]

But avaiability is bad, out of stock almost everywhere I look

In eu its hard to get anything gun related

[golden marlin]

Rip

Also if you still have issues use the irons

Just to confirm it's not a zero issue with the barrel

But if you can get a holosun

[ivory kestrel]

Nono, irons work perfectly, I was taking this ak for competition shootings and I didnt have too much trouble

[golden marlin]

Nice

Solid

[ivory kestrel]

Okay, ill get to range next sunday and go for one more try with this optic

If it doesnt work ill just go to gunsmith

I was thinking about selling it asap

but you gave me some hope haha

[golden marlin]

Wbps are solid

Generally with the issue your having it comes down to some sort of assembly

It's very fixable

[ivory kestrel]

Also it was my first time assembling a gun so theres big chance I messed up something 🥲

[golden marlin]

We've all been there

[noble nimbus]

LMGs

[misty cove]

i dont get some of the kruk furniture

like

why have holes in the grip

you save like 50 grams

[ivory kestrel]

I dont think its about utility, its more about their own design

[proven hearth]

Skeletonized anything is kinda stupid gonna be real.

People still buy it up though.

[ivory kestrel]

Just an opinion. If you have money I wouldnt care less about what you spend it on. If you like it and its fun just do it lol

[misty cove]

yeah

[misty cove]

i can like understand liek the upper part of handguard skeletonized

cuz its a bit of saved weight with not many downsides

but the grip and vertical grip?

like why

[scenic jetty]

You might hate this but I have an ar upper in 5.45

[echo cairn]

Muh weight savings

[spare meteor]

It's me! I'm people!!!

*Meme .50 Beowulf build because it's always red and black!!!

I need to take some better pictures of that thing I promise it's red not pink 🤷🥴🫠🤪

[tall rivet]

That is a truly awful rifle well done

[misty cove]

muh 50 grams saved for 400 dollar furniture (per piece)

[golden marlin]

Oof

[whole sinew]

Acquired some rare items

[round sentinel]

based, I picked one up a handful of months ago

[whole sinew]

The Xsapis is the real steal tbh

[scenic jetty]

It’s actually really fun to shoot

[scenic jetty]

What did this plate go for ?

[whole sinew]

It’s hard saying as they rarely come up, there’s only one set that I can find and it’s a size small

[spare meteor]

@echo cairn @plush mauve I'll get some better pictures for y'all when I get home!

[echo cairn]

Please no

[spare meteor]

She thumps though!

Also it's a real Alexander arms upper it was a DIY upper with no handguards was 850 bean for just the upper!s 🫠🥴

[misty cove]

do u have the scope for the svt

[misty cove]

casing bag like hes shooting it while in a biplane

[spare meteor]

It's a riot using the lower for my can cannon too

[spare meteor]

I reload and the brass is almost a dollar per empty case so I don't wanna lose it lol

[spare meteor]

No sadly all my commbloc stuff is all iron sights

[misty cove]

lol

[misty cove]

aw

[spare meteor]

I looked at a few PU Mosins back in the day but had a hard time spending 600-800+ on a Mosin sniper with the right scope because I could get them for 80 bucks with no scope at the time.

And sadly prices have only skyrocketted from there

[misty cove]

dang

do you have aks ?

[tall rivet]

Fr with brass that good you gotta watch the brass goblins

[golden marlin]

Probably is. Just sounds strange to me

5.45 in a ar

[tall rivet]

No honey we have the NL545 at home

[scenic jetty]

gotcha pretty cool though

[scenic jetty]

it also takes ar mags with diffrent followers

[round sentinel]

whats the OBC gonna go into tho

[whole sinew]

No idea, it was a buy now price from a homie

[round sentinel]

[whole sinew]

Maybe m4

[round sentinel]

fair

I tossed one into my colt IAR with a frt, that shit is so nice

[whole sinew]

Maybe mk12, I’ll play with it and see what it feels nice in

[round sentinel]

literally 0 movement

[plush warren]

Set up the new press and a bigger shelf, with all the updates to my reloading setup I should be able to get my SD’s from 6-10 down to 5ish hopefully.

[spare meteor]

Just a PAP M92 pistol now that there's no fee I might actually do the SBR right instead of this jank thing that wedges under the pistol grip

[misty cove]

Not this shit 😭

[tall rivet]

Mf has a loudencer

[scenic jetty]

Hell yea

[carmine tide]

people who make purposefully trash builds can never fully recrate people who make trash builds seriously

cause this has a theme

[floral veldt]

@lone moss @timid belfry found a CZ97B that was just put on consignment for $1050, $1290 after tax. Either the parts were polished to a shine or replaced with SS/DLC, because it runs so fucking smooth. My broke ass is considering it but man 😭😭😭

[lone moss]

DO IT

[tall rivet]

nah, sounds like junk. you better tell me where it is so i can buy it and you won't be tempted

[proven badger]

Those are 🔥

I like my shadow 2 so much, I’m thinking about picking up another cz to carry down the line.

[tall rivet]

I want a shadow 2

the P-09 has been awesome

[proven badger]

They're pretty nice. I'm going to send it in to get milled for an optic finally

I wish I bought the optics ready version but I'm an idiot

[tall rivet]

helll yea so you got that figured out

dont feel bad i paid for mine to get milled a week before they released the optics ready version lol

[proven badger]

Ya, I think I'm just going to do primary machine and get it milled and cerakoted. I already have an SRO lying around that I bought specifically for this gun

[proven badger]

Honestly, direct mill is the best option. I'm just indecisive. I doubt I'll ever need to change the footprint from RMR so I will be fine. I'm just being nitpicky

It would be nice to have backup irons but I did buy this gun to be a fun range toy/my entry into competitive shooting

[tall rivet]

I prefer direct mill to any kind of plates or anything, I got an RMSC/K cut because I had a red dot already, now I just want a big one

it was the suppressor ready version so it had suppressor height sights which work nicely with it

[proven badger]

That's nice

[jolly vault]

question, im building a sig rattler with my old man and we're deciding on getting and Eotech OGL. does anyone have any other recommendations or is the OGL a decent pick

[tall rivet]

Probably going to be 100% fine for almost anything youre gonna do

[jolly vault]

Thats what I was thinking

[tall rivet]

i only have any kind of extensive experience with the PEQ-2 and the PEQ-15

[lunar marsh]

No experience with it but being Eotech I would expect it to be good to go. I ran eotech my last couple OIF deployments and now my NODs are the Eotech WP duals with a PEQ16

[jolly vault]

OO damn

[lunar marsh]

Really miss my ol PEQ2s. My first issued rifle had a PAQ4 lol

[echo cairn]

Can I ask why you want a OGL?

[jolly vault]

My old man was just asking e to look into it and see if there was anything else to run on his rattler

[tall rivet]

good old PEQ2 and the PVS-14 mono

getting a headache just thinking about it

[jolly vault]

Fairly inexperienced to gun building so just thought id ask people who probably know a thing or two

Plus he's just a huge fan of EoTech

[lunar marsh]

I have heard positive feedback about the holosun iris. No experience with it and im not much of a holosun fan myself

[echo cairn]

If it's a full power unit ehhhh. FP anything aren't really desirable imo. The civ version is just cancer for what it is. If he wants to spend $2500+ on a laser id look at a used mawl tbh. The holosun iris 3 is hard to beat as well. It's nice, smol, everything you need and nothing you don't. You can get em on tacswap brand new for $700

[proven badger]

I wish holosun all the luck. Eotech is bending people over with their new optic prices

[tall rivet]

ive heard but not experienced good things about the holosun and steiner lasers

[proven badger]

The Chinese shit does the same exact thing but cheaper it seems lol

[tall rivet]

and yeah honestly eotech stuff is cool but its way too expensive for what it is

[jolly vault]

He specifically said he didnt want any Holosun so ill have to dig even more

[proven badger]

They sell this shit to the government for dirt cheap and then fuck the civilian market

[echo cairn]

You know what laser I wish would beat the shit out of everything? The sms trinity

[tall rivet]

L3 or Steiner

[echo cairn]

Yeah the new Steiner laser looks goofy but I hear it's pretty good

[tall rivet]

for casual range fuckery its pretty hard to beat

[echo cairn]

Yeah, the design is the shit. I just wouldn't trust it for more than that tho

[tall rivet]

from what ive seen and heard theyve been sending it to youtubers and taking feedback on improvements, i know each batch seems a little better

[echo cairn]

$3k for a melted laser

[tall rivet]

allegedly

[echo cairn]

That's what I was telling a buddy earlier. I enjoy seeing a company tweak their product to make it better very fast

I know they already changed up the clamp screw and now making the laser and illuminator assembly withstand scar recoil impulse

[tall rivet]

i respect it. thats how holosun went from "lol china junk" to eating aimpoint's lunch

well their non .gov lunch anyhow

[echo cairn]

Ehhhhhh I wouldn't take any holosun over a t2 but any holosun over a p2

[tall rivet]

im not saying the price difference isnt worth it, but its close enough to question

my romeo 5 has taken hella abuse, i think the t2 design is pretty much locked in at this point

/tangent

[echo cairn]

I have a 5xt pro and that shit terrifies me tbh. One wrong button press and there goes a blem in my tubes

[tall rivet]

oof i feel that

[echo cairn]

Whoever at sig said whenever they go from NV mode to regular mode it should go to FULL BRIGHTNESS needs to be shot

[tall rivet]

i havent done any stuff with night vision in a gamer's age

SIG: safety isnt guaranteed

[true mist]

I just had a humbling experience trying to top off my Glock mag (bilateral hand injury)
it took me both hands just to drop the mag, and I couldn't load the last round without the Glock speed loader

getting hurt sucks, would not recommend

[floral veldt]

Is this how I con someone into California? Noted

[floral veldt]

How’d you manage that lmao. It’s a tradition for me to injure my hands one way or another during a trip but not both at the same time

[true mist]

motorcycle racing

[floral veldt]

Ah gotcha thought you injured yourself whilst handling the Glock lol

[true mist]

went for a pass in an endurance race, rider in front of me changed her line, our wheels made contact, then I don't remember anything else

but I ate shit pretty good, I sprained both wrists, two fractures on my toe, fractured and dislocated a finger

fortunately the other rider was fine, and I'll fully recover without surgery

[floral veldt]

Sounds like it could’ve been worse, how did sh- yeah not bad all things considered

[true mist]

yeah, it seriously could have been way worse

helmet saved me from any head injury fortunately

[floral veldt]

Hell yeah

[obsidian dune]

thats a trophie

[true mist]

absolutely

[spare meteor]

LAF 26 muzzle brake. "Loud And Flashy" it lives up to its name lol.

It actually helps with recoil a lot too though

[spare meteor]

I appreciate it. I do honestly like it. It runs good and it's pretty accurate what it is

I lived in Michigan at the time so .50 Beowulf is allowed in the southern part in the shotgun zone for white tail

That's why there's 2 rail covers on the right side. That aluminum handguard and pistol grips got COLD COLD in the stand and that little plastic chunk while it's laying in my lap keeps the cold off me.

[proven badger]

I want to get a motorcycle so bad and I swear god is telling me not to lately

Every time I get on my phone I'm seeing people getting hurt

[true mist]

i think its worth it, you just need to always respect the machine and know your limits

i crashed on the track, which is a little different than street riding, street riding i really do believe that crashing is a choice that riders make through inexperience and poor decisions

this is still mostly true on track but the difference is youre pushing your limits a lot harder

[proven badger]

I was interested in sports bikes but I've since decided on a dual sport

I just want to get a bike to explore and ride cool places, especially on roads and trails that are a little rough. I want to load a bike up in my truck and go drive to the mountains and ride

[atomic willow]

this is valid im squid

s1k gang

[true mist]

yeah man, get an old KLR and go hit trails

they cost like nothing, run forever, super fun bike

[atomic willow]

agv saved the day fr

[timid belfry]

a cz in 45 sounds interesting

[true mist]

yeah street stuff doesnt have the same appeal for me as it used to after i dived into track, but i do still enjoy cruising around, part of me really does miss my old ZX10

i think im going to convert my 600RR partially back to street with a frame swap and fog lights

[atomic willow]

that would be pretty sweet i love my s1k thing just rides like a dream

[true mist]

i dont knock squidding though, thats what got me into it and the way i rode for years

yeah those are pretty nice bikes

[atomic willow]

its my 5th bike took me a couple years too pony upto the 1000cc

[proven badger]

S1ks are sexy

I absolutely love the old R6s though

[atomic willow]

yeah i was at a low point in life when i got into it and got the bad habit of squiding out lmao

[true mist]

i did it the stupid way, i blew the motor on my starter 650 (shoutout pop tunes) and i immediately bought an old ZX10 with less than 6 months of riding 😆

i survived though

[atomic willow]

yeah 2006 r6 was my 2nd bike miss that ole girl

[proven badger]

those old R6s look so nasty

[atomic willow]

oh fuck lmao i could never do that i was still scared of how fast my r6 could go with a year on it

[proven badger]

I mean that in a good way lol

[atomic willow]

them things get fast w a tune

[true mist]

the first gen where they added ride by wire is an amazing bike

[atomic willow]

oh hell yeah the way old bikes look got my heart

i love older zx's

[true mist]

yeah it took me a bit to more than crack the throttle

i loved how it rode though

especially geared down

[atomic willow]

oh yeah sending that thing felt way different than anything i was used too at the time

rode dirtnbikes and shit growing up so i was sorta used too 300-450s

[true mist]

yeah, thats what i love about 600s now, they have a super chill bottom end but they do still have some top end power when they get into their powerband

very smooth and agile bikes

[proven badger]

I'm scared to get a sports bike

I'd kms on one of those lmao

[atomic willow]

i agree new 600s feel way different too ride

[true mist]

the beginner bikes are all extremely tame

theyre basically just naked bikes with sporty fairings on them

[atomic willow]

i started with a ninja 300 lol loved that thing

[proven badger]

I'd still just prefer to have something that takes me away from traffic as much as possible for now

[atomic willow]

plane?

sorry had to

[proven badger]

I'm really sketched out by cars and intersections. I trust myself to not crash and if I do, I'm fine with that. I just don't want to get nailed by a soccer mom in a 2 ton suv

[atomic willow]

valid

i live in a retirement city in florida im worried about the 80 year olds fr

[proven badger]

That's why I've concluded a dual sport is what I'm looking for.

[true mist]

for the most part, anything 650 (or more like 900 for low-revving cruisers) or less with 2 cylinders is a good starter bike, id recommend staying under 80hp for a first street bike but there is absolutely nothing wrong with going lower

[true mist]

but yeah 1000% thats a great place to start

dual sport opens up a whole new world

[proven badger]

What I really want is a wr250r

[true mist]

just have a good medkit and know how to use it, and have a way to communicate if youre really going out far

[true mist]

haha yeah i live in tampa so i feel you

[atomic willow]

cape coral baby

shit is ass

[true mist]

its a mess in florida

[atomic willow]

all of florida is a mess tbh the drivers here suck balls

[proven badger]

apparently it shares some parts with the R1? It has titanium valves and revs a lot higher than the typical dual sport because it shares parts with the R1

[atomic willow]

snow birds too aww fuck no

[true mist]

absolutely

[proven badger]

Everytime I go to Florida, I am supprised by how crazy people drive

I've had some dude throw change at my windshield road raging

[true mist]

its because you have retirees with dementia on the same road with new yorkers/ people from new jersey who moved to the state 3 months ago

[proven badger]

and when I went down to miami, i swear everyone goes like 90 minimum on the highway

[true mist]

does not mesh

[atomic willow]

yep i believe that lmao i had saome fucking bum spit at me while i was at a stop on my bike

ppl are geniunely unbelievable

[proven badger]

Crazy mofos down there. My theory is the constant heat pisses people off lol

[true mist]

when i street rode i just split and ran reds so i never really experienced road rage honestly (dont do that its stupid)

[atomic willow]

that and the crack and meth

[floral veldt]

Yeah it felt like a SPO1 without a rail. Whatever they did to it made handling the slide and trigger so smooth, I don’t think it’s the complete CGW overhaul but the DA was smoother than my P01

[true mist]

i quit street riding when doing stupid illegal shit didnt excite me anymore and it just felt like a boring commute

so im almost all track and rarely street, i mostly just ride with my girlfriend and help her learn

[true mist]

that actually sounds sick

[floral veldt]

I’ve heard people say that it’s too large for people to comfortably operate the DA. I have small hands and it felt fine, or at least while dying it in the shop

[atomic willow]

w man

[floral veldt]

I’ll go back in two days with a serious consideration

[true mist]

thanks, stay safe out there man

[atomic willow]

Anyone have a scope recommendation. Currently running sig msr 1-6. And flashlight suggestions?

[atomic willow]

Thank you. You and your gurl aswell Brother 🫡

[timid belfry]

send it

[proven badger]

Honestly, playing the devil's advocate I say don't get it. I'm beginning to realize I'm just lighting my money on fire with this hobby and wishe I spent it more on functional kit

[atomic willow]

money is for poors

[proven badger]

At this point I'd be fine with an AR, a nice 9mm, and something for hunting. I don't have the time to shoot as much as I'd like to and a lot of my guns just don't get shot

[atomic willow]

im hearing 308 556 AND A PCC

[proven badger]

I really like my combloc stuff but the ammo is getting kind of crazy so I'm considering selling

I have like 5k rounds of 7.62x39 so in reality, I have a nice supply

[atomic willow]

OH HE CALLING ME POOR

[proven badger]

but I just don't shoot my 2 sks's enough or my AK

[floral veldt]

So functional kit right, I do think I’m pretty settled on the practical side of things;

• A BCM AR with a mag
• Two 9mms, one cajunized one stack and both that I can carry very very handily
• A Python that I inherited
• Access to a Beretta 1201 and SKS

And I really can’t think of any more upgrades I can make to what I currently have. The CZ will have no changes. The 2.0 I could put the Apex trigger on but I already love the stock trigger so much I haven’t considered it in a long time, nor do I want to get it milled for an optic.
And it’s not like I can SBR or suppress my AR

[atomic willow]

BCM NAH GO g$

[floral veldt]

For as long as I’m here I don’t think there’s much else I can upgrade/increase functionality, and instead turn purely to the recreational aspect

[proven badger]

I just think this shit is a waste of money unless you have a lot of excess cash

I wish I spent more money on other pieces of kit

I'm going to really try to save this year, no matter how much I want a new gun

I have enough to last me a lifetime lol

[floral veldt]

I see what you’re saying and that’s my main holdback. If money wasn’t a question I’d have bought that shit oh the spot

[proven badger]

Like, none of these purchases buy me happiness

I just buy the new gun and it gets boring after another month

[floral veldt]

This particular case is pretty tough because I actually got my hands on it instead of seeing a listing online. That shit was smooth and I don’t know that others aren’t as nice

[proven badger]

Maybe you're different and your situation is different

[atomic willow]

time too move too hookers and coke prolly cheaper

[proven badger]

^ amen

[atomic willow]

😂 😂 \

[proven badger]

At this point in my life, a bottle of whiskey brings me more happiness than a new gun 😂

[atomic willow]

real bruh

[floral veldt]

I also only ever shoot once every other month, but when I do I shoot a lot.

So on one hand you can argue I won’t enjoy it as frequently, but on the other the novelty isn’t wearing off quickly if at all

I have largely settled on a .45 as the next firearm I get just to even some things out, and we pretty much only have 1911s and the 220 here as options so I’m like weeeelllll why not make it a grail for the same price as a 220

[atomic willow]

i need a usp45

probably gonna pick one up later this year cs:go nerd so i need that

[floral veldt]

Heh

[proven badger]

Understandable

I just think if you have to stretch your money for it, it's probably not worth

I know it's like that for me. I'm just stealing from my ability to buy a house when I buy a new toy

[atomic willow]

see dont listen too me but im gonna say thats what the credit card for

buy now pay laters with 0 intrest are hot too

im bad with money so do not listen to me

😈

[floral veldt]

Yeah this is where logic is going to win, realistically I’m going to have to liquidate some stocks and I’m down 17% since the 29th

[floral veldt]

If only, this is consignment at a local store so no such choice

[atomic willow]

ahhh nooooo i get it then i hate spending large amounts at once

thats why i do buy nows lol they needa lemme do that at gun stores

they do layaway type of stuff

my gunstore does that aslong as its not like a special editon or whatever

[timid belfry]

if you buy the right stuff, buying guns is like buying gold, they hold their value more than most things, and tend to go up over time. this obviously doesnt apply if you buy PSA and taurus, but

[floral veldt]

That’s chill I actually should inquire about that

[atomic willow]

you talking shit about my lower twin

[obsidian dune]

interesting

[atomic willow]

u should its a pretty sweet system

[timid belfry]

ive had several times where i was like fuck i could use some money, and had $2k in my pocket that day without losing money

especially if you buy good historical stuff

[atomic willow]

my gun store just takes some of my paycheck so i always have money with them

so if i see anything i want i can get it

[floral veldt]

See that’s the thing I’m out here like 97s have been discontinued for a couple years now and I’ve seen their prices only go up. This is an actual case of cost appreciating instead of the chud asking $1.2k for a used stock G19.3 because it’s off roster

[proven badger]

This is why I don't want to sell my norinco sks or my yugo sks

[atomic willow]

hold hold hold

[proven badger]

I feel like they have held their value pretty well

[floral veldt]

With my luck CZ will announce a new .45 metal frame CZ and corresponding CA variant 10 days after I pickup the 97

[atomic willow]

only guns ive ever sold was a g19 gen 3 and a zion 15\

everything else are holds

[timid belfry]

i mean 10 years ago they were $200 bucks, the evidence is there

or even less

[atomic willow]

this for real i be getting fucked

[timid belfry]

look at mosins, people were buying russians by the crate for ~200

[floral veldt]

My father got our Norinco SKS for $80

[atomic willow]

aks now too

im not getting a ak now its too late for me

not buying a psak for whatever they arre askin

[atomic willow]

lmao word

[timid belfry]

alot of times that doesnt even effect it, I. E older colt pythons selling for way more than new, same with old colts ARs, 1911s and alot of other production guns.

[floral veldt]

Yep I was offered $1.8k for my used, mid 80s Python

New ones are what 1.4 1.5?

[proven badger]

My dad always tells me, never sell a gun

I tend to believe that from what I've seen

Doesn't seem very advantageous ever

[timid belfry]

you could prob get even more depending on condition and year

[floral veldt]

Yeah I’ve never poked around and tried to get offers, this was literally a homie at the range who noticed and asked

[placid basin]

@floral veldt hi

[timid belfry]

if theres ever any kind of AWB ban, stuff will have to be grandfathered in because of the shear amount of them in the country, the value of those will shoot up as well. if you buy good stuff, your money is never really at much risk

there will always be exceptions, but

[placid basin]

I’m selling both my guns

[floral veldt]

Yo

[placid basin]

At a pretty huge loss

[placid basin]

You think FRTs will ever get banned? And if they do you think I’ll get arrested and labeled a felon? 🤔

[proven badger]

The gunss I'm most tempted buy are the ones I have FOMO for

Like M1 garands and imports rn

[floral veldt]

You’re asking me

[timid belfry]

if they did and you were worried about it, just take a video of you destroying it once they're banned

[floral veldt]

As far as I’m concerned anything can be banned

[proven badger]

they can ban it all they want, doesn't make it constitutional

and that's all that matters as long as everyone believes it

[floral veldt]

My favorite part of the gun law cycle here is a ban being ruled unconstitutional after 4 years of litigation, then a stay is placed within two weeks and remains in place for the next 6 years

That basically sums up our magazine ban law

[proven badger]

So many good states ruined by shit like that

smh

[placid basin]

True true

[placid basin]

My bad I forgot you live in the worst state

[floral veldt]

SCOTUS is on track to resolve the mag ban one way or another by end of this year

[proven badger]

California is such an awesome and beautiful state. It would be nice if Americans still lived there

[placid basin]

LOL

[floral veldt]

Either standard cap mags will be good to go or the current exemptions won’t hold and ALL standard caps will be illegal

[placid basin]

Had the opportunity to visit Fall 25

loved it

Living there though? Gosh no

[proven badger]

I'd really like to visit socal and northern California

So many beautiful areas

[floral veldt]

I mean I’m chilling at LAX right now waiting to pick up some people if you get out here in the next oh 30 minutes I’ll take you around

[proven badger]

If I wasn't all the way in ohio, I'd drive there rn 😂

I really want to go to death valley and joshua tree national park though

Almost went there a summer ago

[floral veldt]

Death Valley is overrated Joshua tree is chill

there might still be an osprey wreck out there

[proven badger]

I've just never been to the desert

[placid basin]

@floral veldt come to Tennessee and I’ll let you shoot a FRT Sig MCX Spear LT in .300 blackout 😁

[proven badger]

It's on my bucket list

[floral veldt]

We roadtripping today boys

[proven badger]

I've been to Appalachian mountains, western mountains, beaches, plains

Islands, northeastern forests

Nothing close to a desert yet

[floral veldt]

If you want desert you can also just drive 50 minutes inland and you’ll find a decent patch no one to bother you

Bonus points if you ignore all the warning signs for dust storms

[proven badger]

For desert, it's kind of between somewhere in nevada or cali

for me

I will go out there eventually

[floral veldt]

Borrego springs

[proven badger]

I have a fantasy of driving through the desert at night with the radio blasting

[floral veldt]

Thats nice desert

[proven badger]

bonus points if it's a convertible 😂

[floral veldt]

Canyons too

I see the vision

[proven badger]

Queens of the stone age will be on the playlist

[placid basin]

How do I go about getting the WarTonker role? I play War Tonker

[proven badger]

Kind of put the vision in my head

[floral veldt]

Staff role, get fukt

[placid basin]

NUUUUU

[floral veldt]

(We never use it)

[placid basin]

you and your stupid staff only channels

smh

dude I’m gonna look like such a Sig shill soon even though I’m not

[proven badger]

You guys have so many desert mountains like this. I've always been curious what kind of activities people get up to in them

I know there is somebodty exploring those

there has to be

[placid basin]

I’m trading my Daniel defense for a Sig and my EDC will be a Sig

[floral veldt]

A lot of mountain biking and camping

[placid basin]

I’m not a Sig shill I swear 🙏

[floral veldt]

I mean yeah there’s state and federal agencies that have it all figured out

My cousin goes out for a few days at a time to camp and bike with his friends

[proven badger]

Sounds fun

I wish I had something like that where I live so bad

[floral veldt]

Yeah it’s nice to get out and decompress

[proven badger]

There is literally nothing to explore but run down city streets lol

[floral veldt]

The hiking spots are a lot of arid mountains they’re really chill

[proven badger]

I'd still probably rather live in somewhere like Utah, Idaho, Colorado (Montana to expensive)

I love water too much

[floral veldt]

There’s a few lakes and easy bay access

[proven badger]

The thing I miss the most where I live is fly fishing

Can't do much of that in Ohio lmao

[carmine tide]

Drugs

[proven badger]

You’re definitely not wrong

[floral veldt]

Eh not special in the desert we do that in the city all the time too

[carmine tide]

So a wise old hermit in the desert offering you crack isn't more special than the skid row tweaker who has a ps5 in his tent?

[placid basin]

game got me really into guns but I’ve yet to actually buy or build a gun from the game lol

oh yeah nah good luck lmao

That shit is cursed what the fuck

Who would buy that

fuhhh nah indeed

[lucid arrow]

this is just a sad sight

we have a 556 ak already. leave it at that

nah fuck that. gimme the boombox

[placid basin]

iirc the only real reputable AKs you can get are Zastava but idk if they make them in 5.56

idk I’m not really an AK guy

would never buy this but glad they made it

Q is kinda shitty

[lucid arrow]

the fix is nice

at least the ones ive shot were

[placid basin]

Looks cool but I’ve heard from some actual buys the bolt like to stick and the mag well lets the mag rattle around too much to the point it can’t actually prevent the bolt from going into battery

other it’s okay

My biggest issue is how much Q charges for some of their shit

[lucid arrow]

i mean..they did it first.

[placid basin]

Rare breed made the first FRT, don’t mean it’s a good one lol

not saying all of Q’s products are bad, but they really shouldn’t be charging the prices they do for some of them

[lucid arrow]

no but when you sell the guns to match the ammo you invented..it kinda sets you up to name the price

did they make 300blk too or just the 8.6blk

[placid basin]

AAC made .300 blackout, Kevin left AAC and started Q

[lucid arrow]

Ah

so hes likely partly responsible for it either way

get a mutant

have good time

give cmmg your firstborn child

[placid basin]

Tarkov

I still really want a CMMG Banshee 12.5” in 7.62x39

but that’s low on the priority list

Rn I’m trying to trade out my Daniel Defense DDM4 PDW .300 Blackout for an Sig MCX Spear LT .300 Blackout

[placid basin]

yeahh so I have to thank for that but with him under Q I feel like half the product are actually innovative and SOMEWHAT but not really worth the price unless you’re baller like that

While the other half are just lame and lazy attempts while still charging that premium price tag

I wish they gave us updated MCX and MPX with the modern receivers and rails

dude fr

The MP5K with the folding stock is drippy asf

Idk why they haven’t given us that yet

https://youtube.com/shorts/subdT-W3ajI?si=2S-F8vUCpbsScYcd

Skip to 0:40

Highkey a flex ngl

[thorny flame]

why would they charge less though

if eveything they sell is consistently sold through

that's what i never understand with the just-as-goodisms, not even a Q thing

you're just not the target demo

[placid basin]

Mf who is then??

[thorny flame]

people with money homie

[placid basin]

Who is spending $800 on a Q Southpaw when it’s essentially a OCL Polonium for triple the price

They’re the same fucking thing

One just has the Q logo on it

[thorny flame]

you are making the mistake of thinking everyone who buys this stuff is autistic

you need to lower the bar way way way down

WAY DOWN

spending 30 seconds in a gunstore will disabuse you of the notions that people are educated consumers

[placid basin]

my bad

[thorny flame]

companies are trying to sell you all their shit

regardless of brand

[placid basin]

The Southpaw is $1,000

Not $800

[thorny flame]

let me remind you these are businesses

[placid basin]

$1,000 for a metal tube with some washers welded to the inside…

[thorny flame]

nothing stopping you from getting a business loan and a cnc welder setup

that's literally what OCL did

[placid basin]

They can be businesses for all I care, but if they make a shit product I’m gonna talk about it

[thorny flame]

you're upset with the cost though

because of some sort of internalized value matrix

[placid basin]

that’s what defines if a product is shit or good imo, it can be a poor performing product but if it’s priced appropriately then it’s not a shit product

[thorny flame]

the NT4 is $1800

is that a good value?

[placid basin]

the NT4 is old asf and KAC is off their meds

Literally

[thorny flame]

do they sell every NT4 that comes off the line

yes or no question

30 year old can

[placid basin]

no because no one is spending $1,800 on a old design

[thorny flame]

buzzer noise

incorrect

gotta pay for the drip homie

[placid basin]

you’re paying for the name, a lot of the people I see buy KAC now don’t buy it cause it’s good. They buy it cause of the history that name has

[thorny flame]

yes, you are in fact paying for the name

that's how brands work generally

[placid basin]

imo a lot of the newer cans are drippier and cheaper, only reason I would see someone buy it now is if they’re trying to build a clone gun

[thorny flame]

but this is the old like should i buy or build an AR

[thorny flame]

but i think you should consider who they're selling the southpaw to for example

which is on the 5.56 honey badger for gucci hunting

or on a bolt gun

[placid basin]

So what you’re saying is

The average southpaw owner is just fucking stupid and has a lot of money

[thorny flame]

sure

but the people who are spending the money on this stuff do not care

your dentist or whatever

[placid basin]

I guess you’re right, I got a friend who’s a friend of a guy that takes rich to go hunting

But the people he takes are all from liberal states so they don’t have guns

[thorny flame]

just imagine if you didn't care about prices

[placid basin]

So they just buy the nicest thing off the shelf

[thorny flame]

correct

whether or not the thing is premium is irrelevant

[placid basin]

sadly we live in a world where the price of something dictates everything

[thorny flame]

the goal for that can is a lightweight titanium joint for hunting

[placid basin]

Q Southpaw - $1,000, 6”, 13oz
OCL Polonium - $500, 5.8”, 13.2oz

[thorny flame]

i'm not defending the price

but you have to imagine yourself as an overburdened dentist in a gun store

Q is selling through retail, leaves margin for dealers

so some dude behind a counter sells you a $3000 gun, a $1000 silencer, and accessories and shit

the sort of lexus/toyota dichotomy

[placid basin]

Damn that is scummy as fuck

You know I really wanted a Q Honey Badger at one point but I just couldn’t justify spending that much money one a gun

The Spear LT I’m about to get is already on the upper end of what I would pay for any intermediate cartridge rifle

[terse pivot]

Some people have money on a different level. Local gun store has a 8000€ pistol which he makes regular sales on.

Some swiss titanium cz

[torn marsh]

Canik METE SF

[soft jay]

Sorry

I didn't mean to reply

Do any company offer ceramic guns?

[grand fern]

Glock 7. It's a porcelain gun made in Germany. It doesn't show up on your airport X-ray machines and it costs more than what you make in a month!

[void agate]

[terse pivot]

I was mistaken, "only" 6200€. Phoenix Drake 6"

[ocean pike]

I’m siggin rn

[proven hearth]

New can got approved?

Looks really nice ngl

[ocean pike]

Been approved

Still waiting on a couple

[proven hearth]

Ah, havent spoke to you in a minute so i wasnt aware

[thin cypress]

You like the MCX? I’ve thought about one but not sure if I want that or a BRN180 first

[round sentinel]

BRN-85

[leaden raptor]

I can’t tell if this is a joke

[carmine tide]

glock does

the glock 7

wait thats porcelain nvm

[tall rivet]

Man I love the way the mcx looks

The first gen handguard was peak but keymod had to go, I wish they’d copy it exactly

[soft jay]

More like being morbidly curious

[leaden raptor]

No, nobody makes a ceramic or porcelain gun because it’s not strong enough

[white estuary]

Ceramic doesn't like sharp impacts and wouldn't last any sort of time

Significant cost and time for something that wouldn't hold up

[soft jay]

I mean if it can withstand being fired at least 100 times

[echo cairn]

Another one

[mossy surge]

It's not gonna withstand being fired once what are you on about man

Ceramic knives have been used to bypass metal detectors if that's what you're after then you're shit outa luck on ceramic.

[tall rivet]

Just imagining a dude firing a shot from a ceramic pistol, it shattering, and he pulls another one out of a duffel bag full

[tall rivet]

It’s actually against US federal law to sell a gun that can defeat a metal detector

[proven hearth]

@timid belfry if you wouldnt mind taking care of yet another actual buffoon who got his account stolen

[echo cairn]

Damn 2 in less than an hour

[lunar marsh]

Sometimes you just gotta click on shady links without thinking about it

[soft jay]

Seriously?

[misty cove]

man halfsword EA sucks balls

[echo cairn]

I work in the IT world, absolutely not

[silk heron]

if a message gets blocked, please dont post a screenshot of the message

[misty cove]

thats quite an obvious joke bro 😭

[lunar marsh]

It’s half the fun of the internet now

Fast and danger

[misty cove]

imagine a game where you get a shity laptop or a chromebook and just click on random links until it breaks

[soft jay]

Roger that

Easy

Buy some old laptop

and visit every shady site

Though the easiest way will be downloading software

[misty cove]

free ram

[echo cairn]

Idk what you think is funny, everything in that statement was true

[misty cove]

no what he said

atleast i think

[mossy surge]

Alright but this is the world wide interwebs not the US, but I would be amazed at the thought of someone creating a non-metallic firearm able to withstand 100 shots.

I'm sure you could pull it off if it only had to hold up for a few though.

Striker might be an issue.

[lone moss]

There’s literally no such thing closest you’d be able to get is something 3d printed in like .22 short or similar

[mossy surge]

I'd imagine it would be extremely hard yeah, never really looked into it personally.

[lone moss]

Because there’s 0 need for it

Why make something inherently unsafe to sneak through things unless you have bad intentions?

[tall rivet]

@mossy surge Wow really? no way! Hey next time you want to say something regarded just don’t mention me

[mossy surge]

Why bring up US law in an international discord then genius

In a Russian game discord

[lone moss]

95% of the regular people who talk here are in the us and the rest are euro cucks

[ocean pike]

Violence? On a Friday?

[mossy surge]

Most of the players are from the US probably yeah, I still think it's funny when people assume anyone online is Murican.

[lone moss]

Not even in the game I mean people who talk in here

[mossy surge]

Going back to the topic then surely there's people out there with bad intentions don't you think?

Especially when it comes to firearms.

[lone moss]

Why are you so hung up on ceramic firearms lmfao?

[mossy surge]

Hung up? I just thought it was an interesting idea I wasn't the one who asked the question haha

[ocean pike]

Me when I watch die hard for the first time

[lone moss]

I know you weren’t but it’s not possible, 3d printing would be the closest you can get and no big manufacture in the world would touch that with a 40 foot stick due to liability

[mossy surge]

Yeah I gotta be honest I kinda forgot about the part where he asked specifically about a "company", just got me thinking about if it's even possible to create a firearm without a single metal part.

I know 3d printed guns have been a thing for quite some time now but they all use metal strikers and barrels etc, at least as far as I know.

[lone moss]

Make one, blow your fingers off and report back 🫡

[proven badger]

Mods hate this one simple trick

[mossy surge]

Nah, I'll make a revolver at some point though. I already own guns so there's no need to sacrifice the hands.

[severe yarrow]

are there micro 9s that dont suck absolute ass to shoot? im still shopping around for a 380 micro and id love to have the extra energy if it didn't light my wrists on fire

[carmine tide]

Usp compact

Or you mean a single stack sub compact

[severe yarrow]

1300 dollars 😔

[carmine tide]

Its worth it

[severe yarrow]

pocket pistol sized, basically

[carmine tide]

Damn I paid 1k for mine

[severe yarrow]

bursa thunder is my current lead candidate

[carmine tide]

Sportsmans warehouse

[thin cypress]

I will not fall for your bullpup propaganda

[carmine tide]

She is a succubus do not fall for her propaganda

[thin cypress]

When PSA 2k11 I wanna blow it up

[carmine tide]

It'll do that on its own

[severe yarrow]

id love if beretta made a tomcat in 380

[thin cypress]

But I want it to happen in my hands so I can make big money so when it come

[severe yarrow]

32 is just a smidge smaller than im comfortable with carrying

[carmine tide]

Why not just get a 43x

[severe yarrow]

arent they really snappy

[carmine tide]

Between a usp and glock there aren't really any handguns that are more reliable

[carmine tide]

Not if you train or put a light on it

[thin cypress]

Just get radian afterburner

[carmine tide]

That increases the profile

[severe yarrow]

i would get the light part but im going for minimum possible footprint

[carmine tide]

But yes you could get an afterburner

[severe yarrow]

and unfortunately if i train with a pistol thats too snappy its gonna fuck up my wrists (connective tissue disorder)

[thin cypress]

Not by much

[severe yarrow]

but i could see it otherwise

[carmine tide]

Check out the tlr7 it barely adds to the profile

[round sentinel]

:)

[thin cypress]

I think you just want the world to be bullpup’d

[round sentinel]

not really kek

Im a conventional layout person mostly

[thin cypress]

Everytime I’m in here I see you talking about some bullpup

[round sentinel]

all the market bullpups kinda suck for one reason or another

[carmine tide]

(They're all bullpups)

[severe yarrow]

i think bullpups are neat personally i just dont really think their benefits matter enough to be adopted over a conventional layout

[round sentinel]

fake news

[thin cypress]

Don’t get me wrong I get why it exist, shorter overall package with better barrel length but like they all suck in someway

[carmine tide]

I have the zenith ordered as well as the b&t tri rail

[round sentinel]

a good pup in a carbine config, or AMR/ Magnums, thats really the only way they really work

[severe yarrow]

the army might disagree though they're still convinced that medium distance marksmanship is a thing that matters more than volume of fire or including design features we figured out in ww2

[carmine tide]

Now I just have to source an a3 stock that isnt 600 fucking dollars

[round sentinel]

cause a full size bullpup, is still the size of a full rifle

[severe yarrow]

no interchangeable barrel on the xm250 are we so fucking for real

[carmine tide]

The only practical weapon id see a bullpup performing well in is anti material

Like the gm6 if it was built correctly

[round sentinel]

kek

[thin cypress]

Lynx minus explode

[round sentinel]

so the XM500 or M82A2

[severe yarrow]

i was literally just typing "like a lynx"

bullpup long recoil is a cool idea i think

[carmine tide]

Is the 82a2 that thing that Brandon has

[round sentinel]

brandon

[thin cypress]

When PSA 2K11

[round sentinel]

the M82A2 is the one from Jurassic park 3

[carmine tide]

ITS A YES OR NO QUESTION WOMAN

[round sentinel]

the over shoulder one

[carmine tide]

Ah yea

[round sentinel]

fuck if I know what that returd has

[carmine tide]

I try to forget that 3 existed

[thin cypress]

[carmine tide]

Wait wasn't it 2 with the bullpup?

[round sentinel]

no

[severe yarrow]

isnt he basically just demoranch for boogbois now

[round sentinel]

nah

[carmine tide]

What was the big ass rifle in 2

[severe yarrow]

i checked out when he started politicsposting more than gunposting

[thin cypress]

I mean I think we should eradicate everyone on the list

[round sentinel]

cause demo ranch was just clearly shooting for fun and not doing dumb shit on the side

[round sentinel]

a correct take

[severe yarrow]

can i say something possibly controversial

i kinda feel like forgotten weapons fell off too

[thin cypress]

All the list + Somali’s and tell the Somali if they come back with 50 pedo scalp they get free citizenship

[round sentinel]

LMAO

[carmine tide]

Oh it was a LAR grizzly

[severe yarrow]

all of his new shit is just "i talked to a marketing exec for twenty minutes" or "check out this brand new shot show handgun"

[round sentinel]

that is such a peak program idea

[thin cypress]

Citizenship games

[round sentinel]

real!

[thin cypress]

Broadcast it live just like hunger games but I’d actually pay to see pedos get completely murdered

[round sentinel]

the content itself, not really tbh. More so that the weird older guns he can go over have slowly dried up so he has to shift focus sometimes to other things

[thin cypress]

Just gotta combine money and buy out an island and kidnap them all

[round sentinel]

when he still goes over legit weird old guns, that content is always great

[carmine tide]

What the fuck is this shit on the gun

[severe yarrow]

maybe ive just grown out of most of his stuff or something on a personal level

[thin cypress]

It’s a thing

[severe yarrow]

he feels to me like hes in the early stage of like

the babish thing

[carmine tide]

Looks like spray painted oil cans

[lone moss]

Nah Ian’s cool as shit I gotta have a whole half hour convo this year with him at shot

[carmine tide]

Oh those are supposed to be co2 tanks

[severe yarrow]

oh i mean im sure hes a cool dude

[carmine tide]

I despise anything shot show related

[severe yarrow]

its not like a brandon thing where im like ugh this fucking guy

i just think the direction his channel is going isn't in line with what i wanna watch is all

[lone moss]

He’s putting a lot more time into his diving Chanel stuff currently

[carmine tide]

His what

[round sentinel]

silence PSA loser

when you moving out here

wait he has a diving channel?

[carmine tide]

When my grandparents die

[thin cypress]

I ask him when 2k11 and he no respond

[lone moss]

He has a diving channel?

[lone moss]

Yes

[severe yarrow]

where else do you get to see what the crackheads at keltec are up to this year though

[round sentinel]

because nobody wants psa slop

[round sentinel]

thats super awesome

[lone moss]

Deep dive with Ian

[carmine tide]

Im 3 hours away from florida

[thin cypress]

I want it so I can have it blow up in my hands and make money

[severe yarrow]

did that mp7 lookalike ever come to fruition from last shotshow

[carmine tide]

I have no idea

[severe yarrow]

the one in 5.7

[thin cypress]

My funding project for my pedo Somali citizenship games

[lone moss]

No

[carmine tide]

They dont tell us shit

[lunar marsh]

There’s only so many forgotten weapons to remember…lack of available content

[carmine tide]

But psa didnt pick me to come to shot show so I hope Danny gets a std from a hooker

[lone moss]

Psa slop from 26

[thin cypress]

The 2k11 ported one looks cool but let’s see how it holds up

[thin cypress]

Turning the Jakl into whatever that shit was is gay

[lone moss]

It’s all gay

[severe yarrow]

i can never understand the hype around the uh

[carmine tide]

X57

[severe yarrow]

whats the word. the pistol carbine frames like the roni

[thin cypress]

The 11P looks cool

[carmine tide]

See if I got selected to go i could've called you slurs in person

[severe yarrow]

i hate this thanks

[misty cove]

laser rifle looking ass

[carmine tide]

That looks like the 580 not the axr

They didnt even put the label on right

[severe yarrow]

maybe someone just put it back on the wrong rack

[thin cypress]

Not sure wouldn’t buy that regardless, just want 11P

[lunar marsh]

I’ve had slight interest in PSA Sabre version of the M110 just for nostalgic reasons. No way my wife would allow me to pull 25k from savings for the KAC deployment kit lol

[carmine tide]

49k*

[thin cypress]

Brownells has M110 uppers every now and then

[carmine tide]

For the full kit

[severe yarrow]

"no honey i promise it's an investment i can resell this for way more in a couple years"

[lunar marsh]

Just saw one minus the can for 25k on GB

[lone moss]

Real

[lone moss]

It’s their module shotgun stupidity

[carmine tide]

The can is the best part

[severe yarrow]

if i never have to see this optic setup again itll be too soon

[carmine tide]

The can is also like 11k on its own lol

[thin cypress]

I mean an eotech on a shotgun isnt THAT uncommon

[severe yarrow]

that fuckass riser though

[carmine tide]

Yea that riser is fucked

[thin cypress]

Yeah riser is weird

[severe yarrow]

the eotech, famously a sight very low to the weapon and requiring a really low cheek weld

[lunar marsh]

I have zero interest in the m24. We got the M110 my last deployment as the recce PSG. Also interested in the .300 win xm2010

[thin cypress]

M24 too fucking old you could build so many better bolt guns these days

[carmine tide]

You could just buy a t3x

[lone moss]

Real

[lunar marsh]

That’s why I have no interest in that or M107. Both boring

[thin cypress]

I’d rather just build a custom bolt gun and be done with it

[lone moss]

Only bolt gun that interests me that I will never buy because pedo tech

[thin cypress]

Bullpup detected @round sentinel will spawn now

[lone moss]

Duh I hope so we both love pups

[round sentinel]

I like them in theory

and I will be buying their A3

[lone moss]

Rip your wallet

[lunar marsh]

The xm2010 probably intrigues me the most since it was right after my time as an impromptu weapon system that saw limited use on a classic platform

[thin cypress]

0 interest in an LA85

[round sentinel]

ikr

[lone moss]

I have spent like 7k over the past 30 days between shot and ordering shit

[round sentinel]

LOL

fair

Ive not spent much on guns cause of life recent

bunch of ammo tho

[lone moss]

What’s crazy is I haven’t bought a gun in 4 months

[round sentinel]

Im gonna be picking up a savage 212 boltie tho soon, that has some very very funny plans

[blazing temple]

What about the new walther thing?

I know I want one

[round sentinel]

LOL

[blazing temple]

Stupid as it is

[lone moss]

They are semi neat

[carmine tide]

Fix that

[thin cypress]

I wanna get the tyrant chassis for the 365 they announced 🤔

[carmine tide]

Ive bought 2 in less than 2 months

[lunar marsh]

I just scored another old Aimpoint local for a steal. 1985 AP 2000 for $250

[round sentinel]

ooooo

[lone moss]

I have nothing I want to buy currently

[carmine tide]

Find something

Integrally suppressed 458 bolt action

[lone moss]

Mfer no I gotta get my 40mm loading setup

[blazing temple]

I've been busy finishing the new pc and buying retired lego sets to fill out the shelves that got foisted onto me

[carmine tide]

Youre going to regert that 40

[lone moss]

Full sends or no sends

[carmine tide]

To civilians its a slightly heavier paintball gun

[lone moss]

You’d be surprised what you can actually own

[round sentinel]

hear me out @lone moss

I should be able to get mcmillan to set one up for the 212

[lone moss]

Do it

[lunar marsh]

About to finish building my 723 to this just cause build…

[round sentinel]

'why would you get a mcmillan for a 12 gauge'

because its only a 12 in theory

[lone moss]

That would be hilarious

[round sentinel]

sooooo

its more of a nitro build

[blazing temple]

NWI, 300 unfinished projects, three new projects a year

[round sentinel]

Im finally doing a 12 gauge from hell

[lone moss]

Also real

[round sentinel]

this is actually a fairly cheap project

my 1911 upper alone costs more than what this is projected

even with a mcmillan stock kek

[blazing temple]

Uhuhuhuhuh

But is the 1911 actually fully completed

[lone moss]

I don’t even count the dollar amounts anymore

I just buy

I like it I buy it

[round sentinel]

not really

still needs the can, but thats kinda on hold until liberty opens up the custom shop again

[round sentinel]

real tho

I know general figs

thats bout it

best guess, with the stock, this slug thrower will cost like

2500?

[lone moss]

That ain’t awful

[round sentinel]

~600 for the shotgun, prob another 6 for the heavy barrel, gunsmith work and the stock is maybe a grand

[carmine tide]

Crash a little bird in your yard to complete it

[round sentinel]

for something pushing 15k foot pounds, yeah

its very cheap

700 nitro without the entry cost

and a better cartridge

[lone moss]

Based

[round sentinel]

yuh

[carmine tide]

Wtf is in ohio that requires a 700 nitro you size queen

[lunar marsh]

I need my neighbor to shoot it down on accident

[round sentinel]

feds (joke)

[carmine tide]

[round sentinel]

for ref

if you know AP law, shotguns dont fall under material restrictions for AP loadings

so what do you think a 750gr slug with a tungsten penetrator will do at 3000fps

:)

[carmine tide]

Yea you can buy 12 gauge sabots iirc

[round sentinel]

you can, those just suck

because normal 12 just doesnt have that kinda energy or velocity

this does

but this loading can only run in two commercial 12's

both of them need a very heavy rebarrel

the savage 210/212 is one of them

[lunar marsh]

Friendly fire my little bird to complete my Panama setup

[round sentinel]

LOL

bet

[lone moss]

LMFAO

[silent idol]

Got some patches for my beta bag irl, really awesome quality. can find them on etsy

[proven badger]

Fent zombies

[severe yarrow]

unusually large rats

[misty cove]

somalians

no wiat thats minesota

[carmine tide]

Thats alberta

[fiery blade]

Depends where you at, major cities (especially cinci) Speedballers. If youre out in the country? Meth. A rediculous amount of meth.

[carmine tide]

Ohio has Haitians

[misty cove]

whats with american cities and rats

[fiery blade]

Dayton area especially.

I mean, london had the worst rats Ive ever seen personally.

[misty cove]

yeah but london is a shithole

[fiery blade]

This is true.

Nah Ohio youre looking at bedbugs vs rats.

[leaden raptor]

Could someone fill me in on the stupidness that was happening?

Don’t wanna read

[fiery blade]

Man in ohio has a 700 nitro.

[leaden raptor]

That sounds like a great way to hit your neighboring town

[fiery blade]

Nah, if youre in southern ohio its faily hilly, something will stop it.

If youre north western ohio, more towards indiana...

[lone moss]

@round sentinel is building a 212 shotgun in a Macmillan chassis to accelerate slugs at Mach fuck

[leaden raptor]

Sounds dope

[misty cove]

at this point is she gona make a wz.35

[lone moss]

I actually believe the loadings she’s referencing put down more muzzle energy than a wz.35

[misty cove]

tbh muzzle energy aint everything

[lone moss]

It is when you are pushing a 1000 grain slug at 3000 fps

[misty cove]

na it aint

[misty cove]

btw the wz.35 is 4200 fps

12k joule power

[lone moss]

Yes and the some of the 3.5 inch brass 12 gauge loadings exceed 27k

[misty cove]

dang

[lone moss]

It’s a mean sob

[round sentinel]

the max theoretical loading is 20k ft lbs

but thats a breech load and they wouldnt shoot it

[lone moss]

in joules

[round sentinel]

1000gr at 3k

[lone moss]

As comparison

[round sentinel]

fuck if I know fake numbers

27.1k Joules

[lone moss]

Iirc 18-19ish ft lb

Something something conversion mental math

[round sentinel]

also, that was foot pounds

not joules

3000fps with a 1000gr slug

its a breech load

they wouldnt shoot it because of the recoil

[lone moss]

Yeah and that should be 27k joules? Yeah

[round sentinel]

yeah

shits absurd

[lone moss]

It’s stupid lmfao

[round sentinel]

the 210/212 should only be able to handle the 750 @3k loads

it might be able to handle a couple full pressure

[round sentinel]

complicated

matching energy with a bigger bullet, its actually considerably nastier on target for flesh

[lone moss]

In this specific scenario muzzle energy is the biggest trump card lmfao

[round sentinel]

armor is a diff topic tho