irl-weapons

[silk rapids]

For casuals it should be fine, for people who shoot a lot there are way better options

[golden marlin]

Like instead of ralphie losing his glasses from the BB, it would be the striker assembly

[golden sinew]

I am not defending canik. I am defending the fact that my previous Canik TP9 SFX shot well and for the $$$ i can't complain.

[silk rapids]

By casuals I mean keep it in a locked safe and only taken out in case of a burglar lol

[golden marlin]

Again, you can give something a good review if you don't actually use it

It's very easy to give products a good review because you haven't really touched it

It's called buyers remorse

[golden sinew]

Again this pistol is new I gave my old one to my brother. Do you even read.

[golden marlin]

Yes I'm reading it loud and clear

[silk rapids]

How many rounds

[golden marlin]

Again, it's easy to give a product. A good review

When you haven't touched it really at all

[golden sinew]

If i didn't like it i would sell it. Ive got plenty of money to try a different pistol.

[lunar marsh]

Im turning my 723 into this…waiting on new handguard for the light since I drilled into the other one. Going Panama/desert storm

[golden sinew]

what pistols do you own? Im curious.

[golden marlin]

Mostly Glock

[golden sinew]

haha i figured.

[silk rapids]

Going all out with the clone haha

[golden marlin]

Cause I was raised on them but also I know they're great products because some have been known to go upwards of over 200,000 without having major issues

Hell I'm over 10,000 rounds getting upwards to 20,000 through one of mine

But also I've worked in the industry before

[lunar marsh]

I’m going back in time…

[silk rapids]

@golden marlin show em ur supressed one

[golden marlin]

I know what products are kind of garbage because some of them I've had to fix

[silk rapids]

The one that hasn’t been cleaned in god knows how may rds

[lunar marsh]

Glock will always be king…speaking of I’m considering getting rid of my 43X…

[silk rapids]

Glock: “Maintenance Schedule? You speaking Spanish to me boy?”

[golden sinew]

They are good pistols. I have owned a few myself. I have owned FN, H&K, Kimber, walther, taurus, berretta, ect. I am in my mid 30's. I have been shooting a long time.

[golden marlin]

I got 2 shoot a lot

[silk rapids]

Is that a kill flash

[golden marlin]

My mk4 is probably second runner up

[silk rapids]

On your acro

[golden marlin]

Just a protective guard

[lunar marsh]

It’s window guard

[golden marlin]

It's the tango down

[silk rapids]

I kinda need one, the fucking range I shoot at always has the sun in my eyes lol

[lunar marsh]

I used one on my duty gun ACRO

It’s just for racking off the optic

[golden marlin]

The protective guard that tango get down makes I recommend just because if you're doing a lot of racking off of objects or anything like that

It will protect that front glass panel from cracking

Because that glass panel cracks pretty easily

[silk rapids]

Ah

I got the Honda civic build

lol

[golden marlin]

Mine pretty much stayed like that for a long time

The only recent changes I've added was the extended mag release and slide release

Those were like the most recent changes to my gun

[silk rapids]

This is my EDC but I kinda wanna get something smaller now

Might jump into a 365 AXG legion or something

[golden marlin]

Glock 48 or 43x I can recommend that

If you put some porting or get the comp for it. It's a really solid package

Get the shield arms mags then you can have 15 rounds

[silk rapids]

Custom port?

[golden marlin]

I shipped mine off to Maple leaf porting

To get it done

[silk rapids]

Probably gonna look into changing my carry later this year, I’m tapped out lol

[golden marlin]

It's super flat now

The only thing I don't recommend that I have on my build

[silk rapids]

I got another can and a 211 GTO this week

[golden marlin]

Is the Holosun 507k

I'm thinking about ordering the vortex defender CCW

[silk rapids]

@lunar marsh fuck this 10 day wait shit btw

[golden marlin]

Because the micro series that holosun has sucks

[silk rapids]

I can’t wait to get the fuck outta here

[golden marlin]

Mine shuts off while shooting all the time

[lunar marsh]

I’ve started carrying that 1911 since I now feel confident in it….if shit goes sideways its an impact weapon

[silk rapids]

I’ve been seeing the vortex defender more and more lately

[lunar marsh]

What are you waiting on

[golden marlin]

The defender series is pretty solid

[silk rapids]

Stupid wait time

[golden marlin]

A comp buddy of mine runs them

[lunar marsh]

Ya but for what lol

[silk rapids]

For the Sig 211 GTO

lol

[lunar marsh]

Ahh lol

[silk rapids]

I got one this week

From rainier for 2.6 even out the door with the dumbass king county sales tax lol

[silk rapids]

It’s a shield RSMC footprint ain’t it?

Ohhhh I just realized it came in 3 sizes

[lunar marsh]

I have basically no experience with vortex. Anyone know anything about this https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/vortex-viper-shotgun-enclosed-red-dot-sight?cm_soc=app&type=app|share|pdp

[silk rapids]

I’ve only ever seen that mounted on a lever gun

[lunar marsh]

Kinda interested in putting it in this and maybe repurposing the AP

[silk rapids]

Keep it the way it is lol

[lunar marsh]

Damn you you’re probably right

[golden marlin]

it actually direct mounts to the glock 48 and 43x

cause glock on those models uses a modified pattern

[silk rapids]

Honestly if that’s the case even better, I fuckin hate dealing with optic plates

[golden marlin]

its the one red dot that i know of that works around it

if you do get it machined for porting they may offer to just cut the notches that glock added as a attempt to force people to use plates

so you can direct mount with any optics

I think it was like 50 dollars more for me to get mine machined to direct fit really any micro red dot

[near axle]

Taurus getting chopped

[lunar marsh]

I take it your Form1 was finally approved lol

[near axle]

Yup

[lunar marsh]

What was the wait. I know they were way slower on the 1s

[near axle]

28 days but I mailed the finger prints about 9 days after I filed it, probably be half that time if you can upload digital prints

[fringe prawn]

the only shotgun I ever want to chop is an old side by side double barrel so I can larp as Mel Gibson in Road Warrior

[near axle]

Gonna get one eventually, all the ones around me are 475-650, got this single shot for 119 plus tax

[fringe prawn]

It's on the list. when im serious ill start hunting at estate sales and pawn shops lol. I bet you could get one (probably a box lock one) for 300 ish

used

a side locking one would be lit though because you can fire both barrels at once

[near axle]

Real, estate sales and pawnshops be the way sometimes

[golden marlin]

I need to start filing

Like now that's it's free

I can just do so many and not care

[near axle]

Exactly

[fringe prawn]

hungrily waiting on boomers to die so I can low ball their clueless wives on their entire collection

[near axle]

Just date the widows

[fringe prawn]

lmao

[true mist]

late reply, but my whole group I shoot with has recently got on a tisas kick

between all of them I think they've bought like 10 to 12

they fucking love them

they shoot pretty nice, pretty good trigger too, especially upgraded

I've been thinking about switching to a dedicated competition gun instead of just shooting my carry in competition, and the tisas is probably my number one candidate right now

[silk rapids]

Try the mac9DS

[true mist]

👀

[silk rapids]

It’s a great entry 2011

If you don’t like the grip you it’s compatible with prodigy and stacatto parts

It’s basically a turcatto

[true mist]

yeah, I'm coming from what is essentially an enhanced stock Glock 47, so every 2011 I've tried has been crispy nice

[silk rapids]

It’s been my favorite to shoot for awhile now but I upgraded to a Sig 211 GTO

[true mist]

definitely an enticing world to throw my paychecks into

I'll have to do more research on the MAC, but that looks like a pretty good value

[silk rapids]

This one is the 5in comped version but I think I saw the 4.25 on sale on PSA for 790 awhile back

[true mist]

oh shit

[silk rapids]

They will work with most 2011 mags, I use checkmate mags and prodigy mags for the most part but they are pricy

Like 50-60 bucks each for the 21-22 rounders

[true mist]

is there any stuff I would need to change about it out of box other than just optic+light?

[silk rapids]

Only the stock optic plate it comes with

[true mist]

because honestly, ~790 is probably about what my Glock cost me minus optic+ light, just with throwing on some extras

[silk rapids]

I got the agency optic system plate from Springfield and replaced the one it comes with

[true mist]

yeah sounds good, I'll throw together a list and probably start putting something together once I've recovered and see what my medical bills look like (motorcycle racing crash)

[silk rapids]

Personally I also replaced the spring, it comes with a 16lb spring but I went down to a 12lb so I can air rack lol

[true mist]

haha real af

[silk rapids]

It also will shoot anything you throw at it unlike the prodigy

The prodigy needed to be polished and broken in to shoot reliably, this one ate junk 115gr shit out of the gate

[true mist]

That's good, I'm not huge on picky setups, but that being said I also run 124 gr lawman for everything, so I'm not too too worried about reliability

[silk rapids]

Gotcha

Man speaking of lawman I still have 1k something left of the 147gr ones

[true mist]

Nice

[silk rapids]

I’ve been using em on my suppressed flux raider

My only issue is it’s a stinky mf

[true mist]

yeah suppressed right next to your face sounds like a party

I want to make a flux raider-esque build at some point, but I think I'm due for a second AK and AR build first

both my rifle setups are very plain jane boring 16in unsuppressed

optic/light/sling, some paint, very reliable, gets the job done

[true mist]

hell yeah

[livid holly]

Ponce, PR, kind of ghetto but not bad for a liberty port we’ve been to, not this last port but the time before

They did have this in the Hard Rock Cafe there though @silk rapids

I see the ranger thing on your picture 😂

[misty cove]

built in buletproof vest

[golden marlin]

Ew

Another roach gun

With a bomb on the end of it

[round umbra]

These all roach guns too?

[round umbra]

This is a “roach” gun kid. Lil baby ass Glock

[golden marlin]

Nah most of them are pretty bad though it does show you can't set up a at right if your mounting it on the handguard

Not a great place to mount optics

But roach guns are specifically for Turkish made trash

Canik is trash

[round umbra]

Considering I own the riles and prefer them there is all preference. I hit my shots at just about any distance. My canik out shoots glocks all day in comp bubba

I’m sorry your a Gucci Glock enjoyer

[round sentinel]

That’s just a normal Glock

[golden marlin]

Doubtful when caniks have a tendency to shoot out their striker assembly

So you ain't out shooting shit

[round umbra]

Put 3k shot thru this one and she still fires like a dream. But go on

[golden marlin]

So nothing got it

3k is literally nothing

I've got pistols that are twice if not 5 times that count

[round umbra]

Good for you lol, I sell them before they get high and buy others

Also striker assembly issues are with the “TTI”

[unique fjord]

skateboard tape

Wouldn’t need to sell it if you would just buy something good in the first place

[golden marlin]

its for all of them

[golden marlin]

fuckin real

[thin cypress]

Dammit I missed an argument

[ocean pike]

I see we're low credit score posting today

[atomic willow]

Multi or pure 556 can for 1st can?

[scenic jetty]

@golden marlin @round sentinel looking at Getting a bolt gun

[round sentinel]

Which one

[round sentinel]

Dedicated is def better, but it’ll depend on your needs

[scenic jetty]

The Bergara b14 hmr in 6.5 creedmoor

[thin cypress]

If you don’t plan on dropping the beans for another can anytime soon then I’d recommend multi but if you can drop beans then a dedicated is the way to go

[lunar marsh]

I have that Hux on one of my rifles. I like it. No experience with the SilencerCo 46

[true mist]

what makes a gun a roach gun?

I'm invested

[golden marlin]

turkish

thats why

[true mist]

oh duh

[golden marlin]

lmao

[true mist]

the canik+olight combo is approaching peak 'just as good'

[golden marlin]

I bet this dude can't even use his gun as a piggy bank

[scenic jetty]

what is this

[golden marlin]

the acr

The ACR has a huge gap in the side as a way to prevent mud or debris from affecting the function

[true mist]

IWI guns need this once every few thousand rounds instead of lube

[golden marlin]

LMAO

[timid belfry]

i learned a few days ago the prime and their new announced guns are being made and manufactured in the US which i found interesting

started a facility in FL

which explains why people who always shit on canik seem to enjoy the prime

[weak surge]

SSAK V1 in the wasr

[scenic jetty]

oh nice

[golden marlin]

Won't change much

It's all done through Century

[timid belfry]

the primes are pretty neat, i sell a ton of them. idk if i would buy one, but people seem to love them.

they feel great atleast, never shot one

[golden marlin]

It's easy to love shit you don't touch

People buy Taurus stuff all the time and say they love it

Doesn't mean it's good

Hell the century vskas get sold a lot

Those are bombs

[timid belfry]

i actively talk people out of buying taurus stuff (minus the tx22)

if people come in wanting a canik ill sell em one without trying to persuade them in another direction to much.

but i do always atleast show them a m&p/glock/pdp etc

[thorny flame]

the people who buy canik are budget oriented

you should know by now that all that matters is what people can afford

it's the worst part of anything firearms adjacent

[timid belfry]

like i said i dont think i would buy one, but in that price point, i would take one over a taurus i think. unless you get a police trade in glock or m&p i dont think you can do much better for ~350. now the expensive caniks are pretty dumb lmao

but ideally you save a little more

and buy something reputable

[thorny flame]

people have really warped perceptions of value

they see oh the canik comes with a bunch of shit

#value

plus they can lean on the fact they have nils jonasson

[obsidian dune]

or they arrive at differing conclusions based on individual anecdotal experiences, which can vary widely and do not always represent a universal or reliable perspective.

you’re not the arbiter of what is correct or valuable

[proven badger]

There needs to be an arbiter because a lot of people are restarted

[obsidian dune]

i can agree with that on many levels

[proven badger]

Or they just don't know, like me when I got into guns

It's crazy how much advertising these companies will pay for these days, and it seems the advertising is working. We have large quantities of people that think PSA is the shit because of youtubers like Garand Thumb who are on the PSA payroll.

It's hard to find good and honest info

[obsidian dune]

also a great argument

[atomic willow]

intresting i plan on mainly using it on a 14.5 hbar super duty so i mean dedicated does sound nice but i also have 300 blk so its tough choice tbh

[thorny flame]

i think they're mostly fine for what people buy them for

same for the PSA situation

i think you have to draw a line when people start doing the just-as-good isms though

no amount of "it has a better trigger than a glock" will replace rounds downrange

it's been brought up previously but, you see these guys with like 13 caniks

and you wonder, genuinely

how the gears turn in their heads

[proven hearth]

@timid belfry take care of this idiot please

[terse pivot]

Anecdote: new member of my gun club got a TP9 because of "value" and "better trigger than Glock". Both of us still shot way better with my mostly stock G34, offhand as well as from bags.

[austere bolt]

me going to Demo ranch to see if this mossberg can shoot when it is fill with mayo just in case it might happen to me

[round sentinel]

Me. I’m always right

[soft jay]

Arbiter should be your budget and taste

You can keep telling people PSA is dog shit and they will keep buying it because it's within their budget. It seems for many people saving up is a foreign concept.

[round sentinel]

It is a very foreign concept kek

[true mist]

a lot of people have serious issues with needing to feel like theyre different

[thorny flame]

yeah but get a tattoo or something don't buy a dozen caniks

there are no problems a dozen caniks fixes

unless you are trying to outfit a turkish police department

outside of that

[true mist]

I'm friends with two younger dudes who I know from the motorcycle world who are looking into buying their first handguns, and both of them can't just buy a Glock

they're convinced they need something more special than that

like brother, you are on a $400 budget let's be for real

[unique fjord]

Is it bad I kinda like the blue and white

Ngl tho I kinda want a PSA dagger to meme around with to see how a 350$ pistol is

[lone moss]

Used Glock is the way

[true mist]

i keep saying it

I'm telling them, they can be like 95% of the way to my, like, $1200 Glock setup, for half as much if not less

and I'm telling them from first-hand experience

when I turned 18, my first rifle was a ptr-91 followed by a ZPAP M70 because I was too quirky for an AR-15

when I turned 21, I bought a cz75 compact because I was too quirky for a Glock 19

[thorny flame]

sure but you could buy a cool miami vice themed 2011 with that money

[true mist]

facts

[thorny flame]

or a bren ten, a linen suit, and several hundred shrimp tacos

[lone moss]

Or just do real Miami Vice shit

[thorny flame]

you know what i mean?

type shit

[misty cove]

well yeh americans finance tacos lol

[unique fjord]

Hmm vapor wave is pogr

[misty cove]

if i do get a gun license im buying a pm83 and then saving for an aps

good idea? fuh naw

[unique fjord]

Enlist and get an aps as a free trophy

[misty cove]

brotha im not taking down a spetsnaz or some high up internal security guy :wilted:

🥀

[misty cove]

aps with the thread looks so fucking ugly im not gona lie

[unique fjord]

Gotta love the weird tech you find outta the ME

I’d get

[misty cove]

me?

[lone moss]

I just got green light for my gl06 purchase

[proven badger]

"high up" as if they aren't all cannon fodder lmao

[unique fjord]

Middle Weast

Spetz are just basic soldiers in other counties

[misty cove]

you act like i wouldnt be either

[unique fjord]

Like a puddle in the wind

[scenic jetty]

why ?

[thorny flame]

you’re gonna need to scroll up for context

[misty cove]

yknow itd be cool if someone made like shrapnel resistant pants or something

kinda like how i think some russian swat has?

[misty cove]

atleast from the front

[lone moss]

Holy shit finally something that’s not a fucking canik

[golden marlin]

My god

Can it be

A Windham weaponry

Don't see too many of those

[lusty mica]

its an old 223 my dad had, he put a whole new 22. Arc upper on it

[silk rapids]

I just bought mine too but I’m in WA so I gotta wait lol

Putting an SRO on it

[lone moss]

Hell yeah

My money went to gl06

[ocean pike]

Another “2011” to the pile

Fuck em we ball

[lone moss]

Joining the civ legal 40mm game

I was gonna buy a 211 but I’m just holding off for more to hit the used market tbh

[ocean pike]

That’s what I did. Absolutely stupid deal

[lone moss]

I’m curious to see how this purchase is going to go I’ve never done a dd before but arms unlimited okayed the purchase for individual so just waiting on transfer to my sot now

This is all uncharted for me I’m trying to collect all the stamps by end of this year

[golden marlin]

Nice

[scenic jetty]

Why another one ?

[misty cove]

to arm a militia

[soft jay]

That's why Klarna exists

They needed to step up their debt game

[misty cove]

The country is 30 trilion in debt but the citizens arę 300

[carmine tide]

Bet on polymarket on if I pay off my domino's pizza

Gonna use the winnings to pay off my pizza

[misty cove]

When will america do another 2008

[soft jay]

[soft jay]

Soon

Really soon seeing what is going on stocks market

[carmine tide]

When are we doing another 1987

[misty cove]

Geting bombs by Israel?

Or what hapen then

[carmine tide]

Slayers first album

[carmine tide]

I think the USS liberty was 86

[misty cove]

Ok

[true mist]

me when im puszysta papuga 2 and i say Ok

[fringe prawn]

Ugh i actually fucking hate myself for lusting after the new Sig 2011 clone. I wanted to swear off Sig after the P320 shit and the NGSW shitshow but I just can't quit them.

[ocean pike]

This mf bussin no cap fr fr on god

[fringe prawn]

She's a beaut

[scenic jetty]

How many you got now

[ocean pike]

Wouldn’t you like to know ⛩️

[scenic jetty]

It’s just a question

But I know everyone is a fed

[obsidian dune]

excuse you

[scenic jetty]

No excuse you

[obsidian dune]

ok im sorry

[fathom dragon]

Anyone own a bergara b14?

[echo cairn]

That was roofs right?

[scenic jetty]

i bought one sat

[ocean pike]

yes

[fathom dragon]

How does it shoot? Considering a b14 or a howa1500

[echo cairn]

How is it? Any wear

[scenic jetty]

I’m gonna go shoot tomorrow, I can let you know then

[fathom dragon]

U alright if I pm u?

[thorny flame]

for what

[misty cove]

Ok

[fathom dragon]

Sporter/hunter. I am Aus based and I will make it known our laws are the big strict and cucked. I cannot get a semi auto and I cannot have a barrel length less than 16.5in. Lmao

[thorny flame]

there's a higher end bolt action market there, unsure what your budget is

[fathom dragon]

I am aware but I’m interested in the b14 and the h1500

[timid belfry]

Can you get Tikkas?

[terse pivot]

Thoughts on single vs double stack pistol for target shooting? Should I always go single stack if capacity isnt a concern or could double stack grip fit large hands better?

[scenic jetty]

Yea that’s fine

[terse pivot]

Howa has great barrels for the price. Trigger is a bit rougher than Tikka. B14 only second hand knowledge but buddy who owns one likes how it shoots

[scenic jetty]

Is the bergara not a good enough bolt gun for ya ?

[thorny flame]

it is what it is

there are just better options above/below it

the high end bergaras don't make sense when you can just build a custom bolt gun

and ruger will obliterate anything on the low end

[timid belfry]

At the $1200ish price point, I just don’t understand not buying a tikka and throwing it in a decent chassis

[thorny flame]

you would be correct

so it's like maybe if you can get a bergara for a really great price and don't really care about performance either way

maybe it's your once a year deer gun or something

but the tikka lites are on sale always

i think those bergaras represent and are vying for the oldschool r700 marketshare

but the market has moved on

[timid belfry]

I honestly think a tikka in a chassis is the best option until you get into much more expensive custom guns

[thorny flame]

doesn't even have to be that expensive

but i think tikka smokes them in that bracket for sure

varmint, lite, ctr, whatever

[timid belfry]

I just mean a tikka has an obnoxiously smooth action, and is capable of .5 MOA, throw it in a nice chassis, idk what more you could really want. That setup has countless PRS championships under its belt.

[thorny flame]

take your pick

i think for gaming there is a sort of separate variety

could buy a turnkey MPA or something

[timid belfry]

Ofc, there’s always “nicer”

[thorny flame]

https://masterpiecearms.com/shop/mpa-ba-pmr-pro-rifle-ii-copy/

yeah i mean if you want to set money on fire AI is always there

or the seekins etc

[timid belfry]

But the tikka is hard to argue with, it’s more capable that most shooters, and you throw it in a decent chassis and your set.

Seekins fucks

I really want to get a sp10

[thorny flame]

i just think once the conversation becomes gaming

you have to buy gamer guns

if you're just plinking on the weekend whatever who cares

ditto for the hunting stuff

[timid belfry]

But in terms of practicality, what does a gamer gun give you over a tikka in a chassis? 1/10th MOA?

[thorny flame]

they're already just set up for what you would need

is the main thing

easier access to prefits, better chassis

[obsidian dune]

interesting

[thorny flame]

it's the same conversation you have when it's like oh why get into the sakos

i don't think there is a WRONG answer

just value for money

[timid belfry]

Tikkas have just gotten so popular that all the best chassis companies have adopted them at this point. In terms of accuracy, you really can’t do much better than a tikka. It’s just if you want to buy a rifle and scrap the stock and throw it in a nice chassis, or buy one and not have to worry about it.

[thorny flame]

a lot of asterisks, mostly around $$$$

otherwise it's just like the impact/manners/foundation*/proof/ZCO meta guns

i guess now they're onto march

https://precisionrifleblog.com/2025/12/06/prs-champs-rifle-and-gear-morgun-king/

just as an example

really not that exciting at all

less a matter of "what is the best" and more what can you find shit for

[blazing temple]

I have seen the new Walther rifle and god help me I'm going to have to buy one

[fathom dragon]

I just wanna send a cheapo past a 1000 and rub it in my mates face

[scenic jetty]

I got it cause it’s very capable for what it is

And was a great deal as well so

[terse pivot]

Yeah for me the decision process was: Tikka if you want to win out of the box, R700 if you want the biggest aftermarket, howa if you are on a tight budget, bergara was a bit of a hipster choice

But that was 10 years ago

[thorny flame]

sure but that's basically everything now

[tall rivet]

Had to go rescue this from USPS jail due to ice, shoutout to the full size pistol with light IWB gang

[true mist]

full size carry is based

Im rocking a G47+EPS+TLR-1 in an axis elite, conceals surprisingly well under a tshirt

[lone moss]

I full sized carry for a long time then I just stopped and wanted something smaller and more comfortable, mod 60 and g42 are just the rotation now

[carmine tide]

Dont r700s still go off with the safety on if the wind breathes on it wrong

[terse pivot]

Dont know about that, but what I do know is my Tikka with normal people handloads shoots tighter than the r700 of the local handloading special interest person

[carmine tide]

It was an issue in the early-mid 2010s

It was one of the contributing factors to remington declaring bankruptcy in 2018

[terse pivot]

Weren't they also made in India or something at some point?

[proven badger]

Are there any decent extended mag options for my glock 19?

Not trying to get something ghetto lmao. Just want some reliable magazines that hold a few extra rounds for the range

[lone moss]

Just do mag extensions instead of getting an extended mag

The tti extensions work great

[carmine tide]

Thats sig

[tall rivet]

I definitely prefer like a g43 or something in the Tennessee summer but in jacket weather I got the urge to carry my P-09

Plus I want to do some IDPA

[lone moss]

Even in winter weather here I rarely carry full size unless I throw on my shoulder holster now, and my idpa guns are different than my carry guns lol

[tall rivet]

That’s fair I’m mostly just doing it for reps. My duty setup puts me in open so I’m not winning, but I’m just there for fun mostly

[lone moss]

I do cdp vs the 1911 boomers

[tall rivet]

Oh hell yeah

[edgy kestrel]

I think you are thinking of the Barrett MK22

[carmine tide]

Nope happened in 2014

Was a design flaw with the trigger

[lone moss]

Yep I do remember the 700 issues

[edgy kestrel]

Ahhhh okay

[scenic jetty]

i thought it was also cause they were sued by the parents of the sandy hook shooting

[round sentinel]

that was the big public hit yeah

[round sentinel]

tbf, it happens with a lot of bolties

[lone moss]

Neko did you see I bought a 40mm

[round sentinel]

AYO?!

which

[lone moss]

Gl06

[round sentinel]

ooo

thats awesome

[lone moss]

Waiting on form 3 right now but sot okayed transfer

[round sentinel]

🙏

absolute peak

[lone moss]

Should be fun I’ll be about 2k all in with stamp

Still surprised arms unlimited is allowing individual transfer but fuck it we ball

[scenic jetty]

Jesus that’s insane

[scenic jetty]

I’ll have to take a pic of my bolt action when I get home

[misty cove]

wz.74 pallad is absolute peak

[lone moss]

The 40mm or?

[scenic jetty]

The cost of the 40mm

[lone moss]

It’s really not too bad in comparison

203 is probs about 2500-3k to build same thing with most of the other stand alone launchers

Right now I’m looking around about 16$ per round but should be able to bring that down to around 8-9$

[carmine tide]

Doesnt each round need a DD stamp

Which still has a tax iirc

[blazing temple]

If it's a true HE 40mm

I think so yeah

[lone moss]

No

Anything with sub 1/4 oz of binary is gtg

Chalk rounds, smokes, 3dp projos and similar all gtg

You get into a weird thing where you can’t really have the lift charges installed in the casing until at the range but that’s the only thing. Each round is not considered a dd unless it has that 1/4 oz or more of binary or is deemed an anti personal round

Which to even get that shit you need a fel or Leo/mi credentials

[lunar marsh]

I’ll be honest I could really see you have buyers remorse after dropping 2k on something like that. They are really boring especially if you only have access to civ rounds at a high cost. Even having access to HE or types of ammo is not that exciting. It’s not a versatile anything and really boring range toy. I carried a 40mm variant as a cop that fired all the LTL stuff which is fun in the range for about 3 shots. I can’t imagine paying money for any of that stuff. All the explosive shit we fired in the military was just that too. A puff of black smoke and some sparks from shrapnel a couple hundred meters away.

[scenic jetty]

It’s cool but I personally don’t think I’d ever buy one

[soft jay]

You gearing up for ICE raids?

[lunar marsh]

Ya it’s a very boring weapon system in general and stupid expensive to shoot as a civilian with limited boring munitions.

[soft jay]

That sounded like you would love to have access to HE and frags

[round sentinel]

@lone moss

get the 22 beehive as well

thatll be a cheap plinker 40 load

[lunar marsh]

We did in mil obviously but still boring on a one way range. Only time it was exciting was overseas but it was the entire atmosphere when dumping them in alleys in a gunfight. On a one way range out of pocket no way lol

[soft jay]

Yeah but in military it has purpose

For civilians not much

It's essentially a novelty/ an expensive paper weight for civilians

[lunar marsh]

Ya that’s my point. After 5 minutes at the range and burned thru $100 in chalk rounds for pretty much nothing to happen. Easy pass

[soft jay]

Only reason I see why would someone want a grenade launcher would be renting it

I don't know charging people 20-30$ per shot?

[lone moss]

It’s pretty much a why not thing for me I’m also trying to collect one of every stamp by the end of this year and it checks off my dd stamp

This also sets me down the road of giving me more reason to get an FEL

Things get more fun and cheap with 3d projos and cases and actual reloading of that stuff too

[lone moss]

And yes I will get one of these at some point

[round sentinel]

peak

[lone moss]

I pretty much just wanna have fun with 3d projos and chalk

[scenic jetty]

i shot it twice when i was in and was like that was cool

and moved on

[tall rivet]

Look at you guys, it’s a fuckin grenade launcher. Who cares if it’s practical. Bad nerds, bad

Looks good to go

[lone moss]

They make valid points but yes

[tall rivet]

I’m not arguing that, I’m saying rule of cool lol

[storm wigeon]

thought on the custom foregrip? had a couple of people think it's ugly but it's very practical, as soon as anyone else shoots it it fits very well in the hand

also can still be used as a normal grip and have a press point

[tall rivet]

My drill sergeant used to say “if it looks dumb but it works it isn’t dumb”

I don’t think it’s that bad but those people don’t have to set theirs up that way anyways

I do the same thing, but it’s because I have long arms and my rifle is short as heck

Just keeps my hand from sliding forward and getting toasted

[storm wigeon]

makes sense. one last thing, i found that a riser on the buttstock makes aiming around 50% better due to eotech being a slightly higher optic. the only problem is the charging handle is in the way. I found a product that is spring loaded and moves as you pull back the charging handle. makes it about 25% harder to charge. also worried about "more moving parts more failure points" should i switch it to a normal magpul riser and cut the front off with a Dremel for clearance or stick to what i got and adapt

[tall rivet]

I would see if maybe the CTR stock with the riser fits better. Although admittedly the dremel idea is worth considering

I think you’re right the spring gizmo sounds too fancy

[storm wigeon]

also heavy and kinda awkard. but perfect cheek rest

[storm wigeon]

also it is a CTR stock

[tall rivet]

Oh, lmao

[storm wigeon]

here is what i have on in terms of the riser
https://www.larue.com/products/larue-tactical-risrtm-reciprocating-inline-stock-riser/

[tall rivet]

Oh it’s Larue? That’s probably good to go

[storm wigeon]

wondering if i just jerk it off for 30 minutes if the springs will loosen

[tall rivet]

I trust the things that man puts his name on

[storm wigeon]

me too i trust his shit. just not used to the sudden weight at the end of the chargin. had it not go far back enough a few times and jam

either failure to eject or failure to feed (somehow)

[tall rivet]

I’m thinking is there a stock with a riser and a shorter length of pull so you can get it out far enough to charge

[storm wigeon]

this?
https://gbrsgroupgear.com/collections/cheek-risers/products/gbrs-x-spectre-cr-1-valkyrie-cheek-riser

or you mean a new stock to put on instead

[tall rivet]

Or something like the STR stock you can get your chin on

Yeah a whole different stock

Just spit balling ideas

[storm wigeon]

i looked into that it wouldn't be high enough to make the difference

looking at a .50" height needed

this is mainly for prone shooting. found that i really have to rise my head up and it strains the neck to get eyes on the optic. even then the optic at the bottom of the radical

[tall rivet]

Makes sense

https://bravocompanyusa.com/stocks/ you can put the riser anywhere you want on some of these

[storm wigeon]

ew bravo company

[tall rivet]

lol okay

[storm wigeon]

i tired several times with them...

[tall rivet]

I’m not questioning it

Everyone likes different shit

As long as it’s not cheap bad shit it doesn’t matter

[storm wigeon]

mainly into magpul or DD

[tall rivet]

I noticed

[storm wigeon]

i also own a cz

i have to hate poor people shit

[tall rivet]

Are you me

[storm wigeon]

HA

[storm wigeon]

not a bad choice

does it have the hammer decocker on it?

[tall rivet]

I chose to use the safety but it’s interchangeable

[storm wigeon]

i got a cz shadow 2 compact

if it's good enough for comp it's good enough to carry

[tall rivet]

Nice

[storm wigeon]

put a trijicon RMR type 2 on it

managed to get the back-up rear sights that fit into the trijicon for extra redundancy

and then changed the grip to palm swells

[tall rivet]

Oh nice. The slide of the p09 was narrow enough that I got an rmsc cut, I had a defender at the house but I want to get an EPS for it

[storm wigeon]

i had to custom order the trijicon rmr plate from czech republic because no one made it.... costed like $150

[tall rivet]

Oooof

I was lucky that mine was the suppressor ready model so it had tall sights already

And I got the PMM duty comp because they just look so clean and the threaded barrel was giving me impure thoughts

[storm wigeon]

i got it for EDC so i didn't want suppressor sights or the ablity to do that

it's a compact...

kinda defeats the purpose if i put a suppressor on it

[tall rivet]

Yeah this lives on a duty belt lol

I did just get an IWB holster for it but that’s for competition

[storm wigeon]

did you see they came out with a new pistol like 3 months ago?

Cz shadow 2 carry?

[tall rivet]

Dude I sent mine off to get milled for optics

[storm wigeon]

DAMN

[tall rivet]

A week later they drop the nocturne

[storm wigeon]

the plate i order managed to have the full slide perfectly milled so it's seamless

[tall rivet]

The place I sent it to did a flawless job honestly

Yeah that’s mint

[storm wigeon]

the PLATE was $150

it better be

and i can only use it with this pistol and this sight

but fuck does it hit hard

[tall rivet]

Yeah the mill job was 110% worth it

[storm wigeon]

@tall rivet going back to what i said ealier the LaRue riser. the spring is like 10-15 pounds. i can hold the entire rifle by the riser and it still not go all the way back

[timid belfry]

Fuck I hate that I like this thing

[lone moss]

They do be nice

[storm wigeon]

WOAH HOLY FUCK I ALMOST JUST SHOT MYSELF LOOKING AT IT

PLEASE PUT A SPOILER ON IT SO THE GUN DOESNT GO OFF ON IT'S OWN

[proven badger]

These furrys man. Smh

[lone moss]

Did you expect anything less?

[proven badger]

No 😂

[lone moss]

Fucking way she goes man

[storm wigeon]

also

@tall rivet i am going to be getting the magpul riser .50" and cutting it down. also adding a solid neoprene cover on the end for added protection for the charging handle. something about the charging handle being slammed into something every time i use it, even if it's plastic

[tall rivet]

That seems right

[storm wigeon]

what glue / materal would you apply neoprene rubber to plastic....

chatgpt is recommending Sikaflex®-291

or 3M 1300L

thinking maybe the Sikaflex due to it being waterproof sealant, vibration resistant, and attaches to rubber and plastic

[tall rivet]

Not gonna lie, I’d have to google it

[lunar marsh]

Need a cheek riser for standard height Eotech…I expect only the finest here

[tall rivet]

What’s that even supposed to mean

A cheek riser to help with shooting prone isn’t some wild contrivance

[lunar marsh]

How did we ever survive shooting and qualifying prone for 40 years on carry handle height peeps and then another 20 years on absolute cowitness height optics without cheek risers.. 60 years of ar platform instruction without a standardized cheek riser…not sure how we made it this far 🙄

[tall rivet]

You’re just being a dick for no reason

It makes it easier for them how does that hurt you

[proven badger]

Chin weld is a real problem when running a milspec stock eotech combo

So much so that people buy restarted unity risers for them 😂

[lunar marsh]

Not being a dick. Just realistic

[limpid bloom]

will this also ND?

(incoming sigsuckers)

[limpid bloom]

wdym 8 inch sight over bore is not optimal?

[thorny flame]

did you shoot this rifle slick before you started adding shit

just out of curiousity

[storm wigeon]

I've been working and shooting it constantly over the last 2 years

I started with a stock ar-556

[floral veldt]

Older bro version

[storm wigeon]

It's actually been 3 years now

The riser is the newest thing I've added, and I hate it lmao

This rifle I've built from scratch bought all individual parts. Assembled, torqued, and tuned slowly

[proven badger]

This reminds me I need to get my shadow 2 milled for my SRO already

I'm an idiot, I could have had it back by now if I did it a month ago

[floral veldt]

I was eyeing an SRO so hard over Christmas sales but had to hold back. Too broke

[floral veldt]

Who would you send it to? Wager took care of my CZ slide in 6 days

[proven badger]

I was thinking primary machine tbh

I haven't heard of wager, will have to check them out.

[unique fjord]

French

[floral veldt]

Oh yeah Wager and Primary are the main ones I hear, if you're not trying to port or anything just go Wager imo

[floral veldt]

woah i haven't seen you since last year

[unique fjord]

I’ll take the 1moa for my birthday

[unique fjord]

I got my can last week

[floral veldt]

Must be nice

[proven badger]

Primary machine has an 8 week lead time, but they will cerakote the slide so it doesn't rust which is nice. It isn't any additional cost either.

[unique fjord]

Very

[lone moss]

Poor French watching everyone else play with nfa items

[floral veldt]

Wager cerakotes the entire slide, it's only Black Nitride that incurs a lead time but my slide was cerakoted in Tungsten within the 6 days that I mentioned. It's pretty good work, it completely got rid of some blemishes and damage to the slide

[floral veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-meme-looking-out-the-window-sad-missing-out-sad-squidward-gif-5401562831942688207

Ultimate cuck chair experience

I just want to build a Colt 635

[lone moss]

Brother just move

[unique fjord]

I revoke my offer for you to move here

[floral veldt]

My fucking FOOD though

[unique fjord]

You have no food

Also fuck the bot

[lone moss]

The food is just as good if not better everywhere else I can also enjoy it with a supressed sbr chilling in my car

[floral veldt]

Actually I don't know for a fact that Wager does Shadow 2 cuts, it might be covered under their CZ75 cuts but I'd email them @proven badger to inquire

[proven badger]

Doesn't look like they do the shadow 2. Bummer

[floral veldt]

Yeah

[unique fjord]

Governor whattaburger is pretty much making Va into a ca commieland

[proven badger]

Some of these smaller shops won't do the SRO either because the cut is a little different to accommodate the hood

And I guess you have to mill pretty damn low on the shadow 2 to the point that it is pretty close to the firing pin area

[floral veldt]

Ooof

[floral veldt]

Yeah I considered it for a bit for my 2.0 but honestly I want to keep that to irons for now

[floral veldt]

Woah this is illegal I'm reporting you to Discord and to the ATF

[proven badger]

I kind of don't want to get it cut. I'm an idiot, I should have just got the optics ready version

[unique fjord]

also the new discord overlords are Chinese holding companies. They don’t care

[proven badger]

But I got it for lke $950 brand new so hey, can't complain

[floral veldt]

The big L that CZ consistently takes is their lack of OEM products including slides. You'd have to get an aftermarket or custom work compared to S/W or Glock

[proven badger]

I know. I was literally just looking to see if I could just buy an optics ready slide and I can't find one.

Dumb af

[lunar marsh]

Custom 1911 I’m waiting on is 8-9 month lead lol

Gonna forget I bought it before it gets here

[proven badger]

That’s rough

I just don’t want to give up my gun for it to sit for a month lol

[proven hearth]

The sooner you say fuck it and send it off the sooner itll come back.

[floral veldt]

Just look for a CZ owner in your area and steal an OR S2 slide from them. They'll be too busy talking about how they have the Bundeswehr's new service pistol

[thorny flame]

the time passes either way homie

[terse pivot]

Uwot, they are getting rid of my P8?

[austere bolt]

I want to get my berretta to look like the samurai edge

[round sentinel]

Easily can. There are grips and the compensators from multiple vendors

[outer mirage]

this raids about to go hard

[proven badger]

I'll steal the p10 too

I want to try one

[tall rivet]

To chime in on wager they cut my Cz P-09 and not only was the work perfect but they had it back in the mail in literally 24 hours after they received it

I didn’t get any kind of coating though I just had them blue the cut area

They actually answer their email too

[proven badger]

Damn, maybe I will send them an email and see if they do Shadow 2s

[tall rivet]

Iirc they can’t do some of the shadows but yeah absolutely wouldn’t hurt to ask

[glad wagon]

RD-704 at home

[tall rivet]

Buffer tube on an AK?!

How far we have strayed from kalashnikovs light

I’m kidding that thing looks fun as hell

[misty cove]

but fr would that even do anything

[tall rivet]

Lets you use AR stocks

[proven kayak]

Why'd you buy that? "im bideo gam huh huh"

[proven hearth]

I saw that

[carmine tide]

The government is flooding the market with tx22s and driving up the cost of 9mm and 5.56 so they can say it isnt common use to ban it leaving everyone with .22s

[tall rivet]

Take your meds

[proven kayak]

the first amendment is almost as big a mistake as the second some days

[golden marlin]

It's very common

[tall rivet]

Yes, it is

Eat shit, a billion flies can’t be wrong

[golden marlin]

?

[proven kayak]

popular does not mean good

is the TLDR

[golden marlin]

It's whatever

Comes down to personal taste

[proven kayak]

I disagree

[golden marlin]

Personally I'd prefer a stock that is more modular

[proven kayak]

There's a right way to do things and a wrong way

and if you insist on personality over correctness well i just cannot help you

[golden marlin]

It's a stock

[proven kayak]

although i do coinidentally offer 3 for 1 lobotomies on sunday

[golden marlin]

As long as the stock does what stocks do

I don't care

[proven kayak]

fraid not

drip is always more important

[echo cairn]

I forgot you're here

[golden marlin]

Is he a known idiot or something?

[proven kayak]

you're asking dyer? in a server full of clowns??

listen homeboy

I can forgive a lot of dripless builds before i could ever forgve that

[golden marlin]

Ok so you are on the spectrum got it

[proven kayak]

a tarkov player calling ME on the spectrum

it truly is a clown world

[echo cairn]

And you're not?

[golden marlin]

I don't play shitkov

[proven kayak]

we got him boys

[golden marlin]

I prefer to be on the good side not on the short bus side

[echo cairn]

Mmmhm. I've seen your guns. You're rizzin with this tizzm

[proven hearth]

This is irl weapons. Acting like everyone here isnt autistic in one way or another is just plain innaccurate

[proven kayak]

I've been tested, I'm normal

[echo cairn]

These do the the mfs who suck off the mk23 religiously

[proven kayak]

sucks for you guys tho

[proven hearth]

👲

This is you

[proven kayak]

it's true, my caps are all chinese

[proven hearth]

Fucking commie bastard

[echo cairn]

You didn't know this

[proven kayak]

\it's worth it for all the orange chicken

[echo cairn]

This tbh

[proven hearth]

Hold on orange chicken isnt a chinese dish

[echo cairn]

Nope

Created by Panda Express in the state nobody cares ab

[proven kayak]

no but they sure did adopt it fast

[lone moss]

The fact we are even in this server is enough

[lone moss]

Aye listen here fucker

[echo cairn]

T H I S

[proven hearth]

The only good thing to come out of said state

[echo cairn]

Oh no he's gana bludgeon me with a 8 pound handgun

[lone moss]

You’re god damn right

[echo cairn]

Facts

[proven kayak]

an 8 pound meat mallet

[echo cairn]

I laughed a lil too hard at this

[lone moss]

Aw man can’t even say that stupid auto mods

[echo cairn]

Honestly why isn't gripen been invited to the holy land

[lone moss]

It was promised to me 3000 years ago

[echo cairn]

Oh God he's a Jew nvm

[lone moss]

[round sentinel]

because you werent either

[echo cairn]

Wrong

[round sentinel]

thats not the OG side server

[echo cairn]

Even better

[round sentinel]

arguable

[echo cairn]

Where the N and R words are plentiful

[round sentinel]

bro thats like

every other word from me

[proven kayak]

napthalene and Reprobate

[echo cairn]

You just ain't ab that life

[round sentinel]

ok gayboy

[proven kayak]

ironic

[round sentinel]

nah, I like girls, we arent the same

[proven kayak]

[echo cairn]

You have sex with women and relations with men

[proven kayak]

reel isn't a girl chief

[round sentinel]

Im with a polish woman lmao

Reel and I havent been on good terms for a very long while

[proven kayak]

what's she polish?

doorknobs i et

[echo cairn]

I got news for ya

That makes ya gay

[round sentinel]

yes thats the point actually

[proven kayak]

Yeah they've got some awy of burning brridges haven't they

[round sentinel]

Real

but no I do mean my actual fiancee. Im with a polish woman, have been

[proven kayak]

nice

[round sentinel]

yee

[proven kayak]

always like to see people getting more better at life

[round sentinel]

Oh god no, Ive def gotten worse

aka doing more stupid shit as usual

[echo cairn]

Then why you always praying for my downfall

You stole my nods for a week

[lone moss]

Brother we are all here none of us are doing good in life

[proven kayak]

you need the character building

[echo cairn]

Oh screw you dad

[round sentinel]

🙏

[proven kayak]

speak for yourself

I'm chillin

[echo cairn]

Well

[proven kayak]

speaking of chillin

[round sentinel]

I need A&K to get my shit to market already fr

[proven kayak]

stuffed cheese bread ay?

[proven hearth]

Speak for yourself im doing just fine

[echo cairn]

Where did you get the cheese....

[misty cove]

What

[proven kayak]

from the damn cheese aisle

[echo cairn]

Mhm idk if I trust you tbh

[proven kayak]

what is wrong with you dyer

[proven hearth]

Dyer doesnt even know about the cheese aisle. What a bozo

[echo cairn]

For one I'm already skittish of food given by people bc my dad gave my "jelly beans" as a kid and it was the fuckin bean boozle ones and I've never trusted given food after that

[ocean pike]

what an idiot

[echo cairn]

2 it's from you so you probably lightly fucked it

[lone moss]

Real

[round sentinel]

one day

inb4 its not ready until next shot

[lone moss]

ATF needs to get off their ass and approve my fucking forms

[round sentinel]

by that point Ill beg him to take me with him

tbf, hes from the midwest north too sooooo

kek

[echo cairn]

What ya gettin

[lone moss]

Waiting on form 4 for white bread, form 1 for mini 14 and form 3 for 40mm

[misty cove]

5 tons of uraniun for chechens

[round sentinel]

god speaking of forms

I gotta put in a F6

[lone moss]

I have another form 4 I need to submit for a .22 can and then the form 4 once the form 3 clears

[proven kayak]

I got 46 in

[echo cairn]

Dope, dope, and why

[lone moss]

Why not

[proven kayak]

and the ATF is drip feeding me them back 1 at a time

i'm seething

[proven hearth]

No batch approvals for you bozo

[proven kayak]

at this rate they shoul all be back by november

[echo cairn]

Fair enough. Do you need to register anything to use those fuckin shells that shoot 22 and stuff like that

[proven kayak]

[lone moss]

Just the launcher itself, anything under 1/4 oz binary/ non anti personal gtg. Anything else would be another dd stamp

[proven hearth]

Batch approvals are actually illegal due to penal code 420.69

[echo cairn]

Interesting

[misty cove]

Do 40mm flashbangs exist?

[echo cairn]

What 40mm did you get? Only one I've really ever looked at is the LMT handgun lol

[lone moss]

I’m going to be going through what’s needed to get an fel as well

[proven kayak]

yes

[misty cove]

Cuz tbh that's the only use a xivilian would have

[lone moss]

B&T

[lone moss]

I’m sure there is something yes

[echo cairn]

Oh yeahhhhh they do make one

[proven kayak]

40mm buck?

[misty cove]

Wouldnt that be inacurate

Like realy

[proven badger]

No

[echo cairn]

I heard the 37 mil tubes on those are just unrifled 40s

[proven badger]

What do you think they take down elephants with

[proven kayak]

it's a two inch wide canister of buckshot

[proven hearth]

I think homie just asks questions to ask questions at this point

[lone moss]

They are different

[proven kayak]

out of a 6 inch barrel

[lone moss]

Even the launcher body is a different color to indicate it’s a 37

[round sentinel]

he does, yes

[lone moss]

Grey vs black

[round sentinel]

[echo cairn]

Interesting

[misty cove]

Maybe

[proven hearth]

Noted. Will be ignoring all future comments from him.

[round sentinel]

kek

[misty cove]

What's your guys favorite mediaval armor type

[echo cairn]

Idk 40mm just are a toy from my aspect since I don't wana do all the licenses and money for HE rounds

[proven kayak]

so dyer

[echo cairn]

Whattttt

[proven kayak]

IWA sells tear gas grenades

we should go and do shoothouse things

[lone moss]

I mean that’s basically what half this shit is for anyways

[proven kayak]

with them

[proven hearth]

What do you mean you wouldnt use a 40mm HE for home defense

[echo cairn]

You need any special shit to get them

[echo cairn]

Never said I wouldn't, just too much work and paperwork to get a singular HE round

[lone moss]

Probs Leo or mil credential

[echo cairn]

Damn it

[lone moss]

Would just go through someone without even arming

[proven kayak]

you just gotta take their test rq

ez

OC is generally unrestricted

[echo cairn]

I wana to get some of those airsoft flashbangs

[proven kayak]

i've got a handful just come up

[lone moss]

The other thing that’s nice about 40 is you can shoot most 37mm rounds in a 40 as well vs you can not do the opposite obv

[echo cairn]

Interesting

[lone moss]

As I said the other day the main goal is to just play with chalk and 3d projos

[round sentinel]

yeah itll be nice

[proven kayak]

IWA has a silly little mock mortar now too

very funny

[round sentinel]

Id like to get a 40 and some stuff to play around as well

[proven badger]

I want to get some of the dummy grenades for my yugo sks

[round sentinel]

honestly probably a 203 for cloner coolness

[lone moss]

Do it

[echo cairn]

How much was the b&t

[round sentinel]

at some point, by no means a priority for a while

[echo cairn]

Yall gota stop with these Jedi mind fucks I'm already poor

[lone moss]

1780 otd with tax and comes with Aimpoint micro

• 200 tax stamp for dd

[round sentinel]

aint bad at all

[proven badger]

I think I just need some 7.62x39 blanks and there's a website that sells chalk grenade things

[proven kayak]

40 is sick shit just make sure you go big names so if it explodes on you they can afford to pay your medical bills

[round sentinel]

honestly, I have no interest in HE either

[lone moss]

Honestly you’d have a very hard time injuring yourself with a low pressure 40mm

[round sentinel]

just not worth the hassle to me

[echo cairn]

I want HE to blow tree stumps

[round sentinel]

true

that and, a hard time in anything thats not a mk19

[lone moss]

I’ve even seen barrels on gl06’s explode due to improper binary charges and they just all let out the side

It’s pretty hard to fuck up

[proven kayak]

it's not that 40mm is dangerous, it's that there is some cheap garbage out there

just be aware kind of deal

[lone moss]

Even then it’s so low pressure it’s very low risk

You can literally use 3d printed cases

That’s how low pressure it is

[echo cairn]

Oof

[proven kayak]

calm down buddy calm down

no need to get angry

[echo cairn]

Don't let Honda see you can 3d print the cases

[proven hearth]

Depends how big your house is

[proven kayak]

oh shit he's going postal everyone hide

[lone moss]

Metal inserts for the lift charges but that’s really about it

[proven hearth]

Also 3d printing is fucking garbage. Do better.

[lone moss]

I’ll be getting alum cases so doesn’t matter to me

[echo cairn]

Don't even you smuck

[lone moss]

But just saying you can do 3d printed cases

[proven kayak]

aluminum cases are great

pay for themselves in the long run

[proven hearth]

News flash. Youve been out of the loop for over a year now

[lone moss]

Pretty much I’m gonna buy probs 10 of them to start out

[echo cairn]

aren't chalk rounds like $30

[lone moss]

9$

For the projo

[proven kayak]

is chalk legal again?

man am i out of the loop

[lone moss]

Has been for a while to my understanding

[proven kayak]

nice

i never hav kept up on the things

[round sentinel]

yeah, they never ended up restricting it

[proven kayak]

interesting

[lone moss]

They just do the lift charges separate thing now

[round sentinel]

they were considering calling each one a DD then reversed it immediately

[lone moss]

That’s the only big rule

[proven hearth]

Get rid of blacklisted words from irl weapons so i can call people what i like

Slabsy please

[proven kayak]

I've been harassing UTM since the import ban was lifted to get me more of their simunition

no dice

[lone moss]

If you have it assembled at home it can be considered a dd if you do it at the range aka insert lift charges at range your are gtg

That’s where things get fucky

[proven kayak]

oh sick

so it's like general explosives and whatnot

[lone moss]

Basically just pre assemble without the lift charges store lift charge separate assem at range totally legal

[echo cairn]

Oh yeah I remember like the black powder door charges you can't have them pre assembled. Big no no

[lone moss]

Yup

As long as you assem before using at the range totally fine

[ocean pike]

I bet it's eating your ass alive that it's not dark yet

[echo cairn]

Gay ass server

[ocean pike]

get smoked

[echo cairn]

I'm driving home and yes I'm dying over here

[carmine tide]

Gonna tie you up and force feed you jelly beans while wearing a skin mask of your father

[carmine tide]

You wouldn't shoot your father

The cia should've hired me in the 80s

Having the torturer wear the skin of your parent adds a personal touch most torturers wouldn't think of

[plush warren]

Worked on my handloads today, ended up with a wonky ahh 1” wide and 3” tall group

Best SD was 6.7 FPS lol

[scenic jetty]

9mm i assume ?

[plush warren]

.300 blackout

Next batch is gonna be way better since now I have a Forster press, Redding dies, an LE Wilson mandrel so I won’t need to crimp, and I’m switching to Hornady brass. Once that’s all set up I’m gonna run up ladder loads for 220 grain SMK’s and 220 Gn Hornady ELD’s

Once I figure which is better and what powder charge… then I guess I’ll start fucking with seating depth

[scenic jetty]

hell yea

got a shotgun press a few weeks ago

but i want to get into rifle reloading as well

[plush warren]

Shotgun reloading is neat!

Rifle reloading is…

I have never felt so fucking autistic in my life since my diagnosis

[scenic jetty]

its pretty fun

enjoyed it so far

[plush warren]

I’m happy to hear that!

[tall rivet]

reloading is irl wizard shit and I look forward to being able to start

[tall rivet]

Decided to give the BCM a try here, I do like the look better

[plush warren]

May I implore you not to start with a cheap press or dies? Bc you’ll quickly start to find shortcomings and yearning for tighter and tighter tolerances

[tall rivet]

Yeah that’s the main reason I haven’t, I sort of want to come in with a decent setup so I don’t have to spend a bunch of time hating life

[noble nimbus]

Mosin-nagant Wz. 91/98/26 carbine

[plush warren]

Totally understandable tbqh

It’s certainly a bit of an iceberg to scrabble onto

[thorny flame]

rockchucker to mark 7 pipeline

[plush warren]

$30 Lee single stage to Forster coax pipeline

:>

[thorny flame]

you are the person 338 spectre was designed for

[true mist]

just had to put down a possum, I feel pretty bad about it, because they are really sweet creatures

car ran him over pretty bad, he was suffering a lot

only tangentially related to weapons ik, but its my first time actually shooting a living thing and im not thrilled about it

[scenic jetty]

why to the most expensive one ?

[thorny flame]

it's just a matter of volume

your time is the thing you can't get back

the dudes that do extremely high volume, not necessary for small batches

[scenic jetty]

sure i guess