irl-weapons

[near axle]

ok unk

[echo cairn]

Lmk when you get gooder

[proven hearth]

Wheres the, no you're all wrong meme when you need it

[thorny topaz]

Style over usability always wins, no matter how deep your wallet.

[near axle]

drip or drown

[thorny topaz]

ye

[proven hearth]

Youre drowning

[thorny topaz]

Drowning in drip.

[near axle]

drowning like kodak black

[thorny topaz]

😂

[proven hearth]

Thats downing

Big difference

[near axle]

.22lr is chick magnet tbh

[thorny topaz]

Your H&K may be hot, but is it vintage 1950s Luger squirt gun hot?

[near axle]

im gonna nut

[thorny topaz]

Mad drip.

[near axle]

baby luger

[echo cairn]

Yall don't know anything ab drip

[near axle]

got one of those from aliexpress lmao

[proven hearth]

I am not impressed with your performance.

[echo cairn]

Please father, acknowledge me

[thorny topaz]

Basically the other RSO at the range every morning with his Tx22.

Do want.

[proven hearth]

Leaving for milk and cigs, ill be back soon.

[near axle]

told yall nothing impresses this ngh

[echo cairn]

Gosh damn it. He'll be back when I get my dual in. And then my duals will be missing

[thorny topaz]

You're used to hearing that, aren't you? 😂

[proven hearth]

Dont worry about it.

[echo cairn]

What's ab this papa

[proven hearth]

This is the second time youve tried low quality bait. Im only responding in the hopes youll do better next time.

[thorny topaz]

Freedom fireball. 😎

[proven hearth]

When frogskin cerakote

[echo cairn]

When I find the time to ship it off

[proven hearth]

Pussy

[echo cairn]

Where's your frogskin anything??

[proven hearth]

Frogskin? Pft, this is a 6 color desert household

[thorny topaz]

Bright pink solid color or nothin'.

[near axle]

hell yea brother

[echo cairn]

Lies it's a flecktarn and m81 house

[thorny topaz]

Imagine getting clapped by a dude in a pink onsie with this:

[near axle]

gucci gun and nods to get clapped by that

[thorny topaz]

$22K nods, $6K rifle, getting clapped by ZIP 22 with an underslung searchlight? Priceless.

[near axle]

that or tx22 frt with an olight

[thorny topaz]

Retinal BRRRT.

Head, eyes

[near axle]

might be my next pickup honestly

[thorny topaz]

Stenciling "HEAD, EYES" on the side of my rifle might be a play.

Makes it shoot straighter.

Like flame decals make cars go faster.

Science.

[near axle]

+5 accuracy

[thorny topaz]

But I'd have to de-grease my rifle, and that's no fun.

[misty cove]

awesome

[tepid mural]

I’m able to throw a 300 blk complete upper on a 556 lower correct

Bc I been told otherwise

[misty cove]

idk man can you

[tepid mural]

Idk that’s what I’m asking

[lone moss]

Yes you can

[tepid mural]

Thanks. A.I says yes but the store I went to says no

[unique fjord]

I need a go fund me for one of these

[echo cairn]

Shit get enough for me one too I've always wanted an MC

[unique fjord]

Sadly they couldn’t lose that rifle in a boating accident from Ukraine back to the states

[echo cairn]

I was too poor and had it get an AT

[rocky valley]

King shit

Ohhhh, Ohh no

[unique fjord]

Aesthetics are the most important

[thorny topaz]

Can't be serious all the time. 😅

[lunar marsh]

He literally posted and boasted about a bubbafied Enfield action with a bubba cut stock, new barrel and makeshift barrel band that would be lucky to fetch $400. He’s not all there

[echo cairn]

$400??? More like 250

[lunar marsh]

I was being generous. Typical consignment gun price so the shop can take their 20% cut lol. There are so many of those things along with 1917 Enfields on consignment at my local place. Fucking ruined by a previous owner.

[unique fjord]

Zero reason to destroy a military rifle

If someone wants a lighter Enfield get a jungle

[scenic jetty]

They had a ton of nice bolt action rifles at my scheels but they had carbon fiber barrels and I don’t want those

[unique fjord]

Ong

https://www.reddit.com/r/ak47/s/DoqbtNbKSA

Wow embed shitty link

Ffs

Sr3m clone

[fringe stratus]

Does anyone like the Cali V Glocks?

[thorny flame]

man what is this 1960s advice

meanwhile in thailand

they are fighting modern jungle wars (RIGHT NOW)

"yeah bro just use iron sights"

the humble chinese M16A2 with the chinese thermal might have something to say about that

[modern sandal]

They should’ve destroyed these 🙏

No.3’s specifically

[modern sandal]

So uh what are these 1917’s fetching?

[unique fjord]

No4 mk1/2 best

[lunar marsh]

Modified ones or originals?

[fringe prawn]

Zijiang M99?

[misty cove]

arent they alot rarer

[round sentinel]

Nah. We are all serious all the time :)

Actually fuck. I missed my chance to 8.6 1911 post. Fuck

[blazing temple]

[tired aurora]

Still time

[unique fjord]

Please leave that dumpster fire in the nearest post box

Also some mod moved irl gear above weapons now p annoying. French fix

[thorny topaz]

As expected on this server, you didn't actually read what I said, and completely straw-manned.

I was talking about kit needing to reflect your situation, which includes whether or not you have squad and support infrastructure. Kit choice for 1-2 guys with no support line behind them is very different than a squad with a support line, even air superiority.

How is that "1960s advice?"
Stop assuming everyone is attacking your favorite setup. Also, pointing to the Chinese on anything military is kind of absurd.

My overall point was that it's important to consider your realistic situation, should you ever - God forbid - have to really use your firearms in a real fight. Consider things outside of Tarkov "raid mindset." EFT is a game, and not reflective of IRL, especially in long-term conflict where you may not get a reliable resupply of ammo, parts, food, water, batteries, etc.

[thorny flame]

Buddy you gave an entire SOG essay

[thorny topaz]

But sure, tell me I'm wrong.

[thorny flame]

You are not doing LRRP

[thorny topaz]

What did I say that's wrong?

[thorny flame]

The kit suggestions, vs any of the normal shit that exists in 2026

[thorny topaz]

When did I ever suggest a kit?

Point to the post.

Link it.

[thorny flame]

Your entire wall of text that that comment is in response to?

[thorny topaz]

I only pointed out considerations in certain environments. Never said, "yOu ShOuLd UsE tHiS."

[round sentinel]

No, it’s gonna be peak

[thorny topaz]

Is English your first language? I wouldn't want to rag on you for having a less-than middle-school reading level, if you struggled to read a few sentences.

[thorny flame]

Bold claim given your inability to make concise statements

[thorny topaz]

Okay. 🙄

Still haven't told me which thing in particular is wrong, and why.

[thorny flame]

But the discussion is always buying a minimum level of quality, not suggesting some high speed shit

Which is what the OP was about

[thorny topaz]

Which I agree, you should have reliable gear.

[thorny flame]

At no point did the Lord say sell your Glock and buy a Taurus .22, is what we're saying

[thorny topaz]

Yep, I agree. Conversation ended, and I began another conversation inspired by the previous.

[thorny flame]

Right-o

[thorny topaz]

If I said something that was incorrect, I'd like to know what it was, why it's incorrect, so I can consider changing my mind on the matter.

[thorny topaz]

That's all.

[round sentinel]

It namely started from saying shit about running irons instead of an optic cause optics add weight. Which, he’s kinda right, that’s 60’s bullshit

Optics are no longer an addition, they are a necessity for basic modern marksmanship of a duty platform

[thorny topaz]

It's personal preference.
I do know that my rifle weighs a lot more with my optic than with irons. I also pointed out that sightlines play into it.

[thorny flame]

Are there shadow systems guys? I just don't understand why the market needs another AR

[thorny topaz]

How so?

[thorny flame]

Irons are cool and fun but they are slower and worse in basically every way

[round sentinel]

It’s not really a personally preference thing when a dot with a mount these days is about the same weight as any competent irons

[ocean pike]

There are 100% shadow systems guys

[round sentinel]

It’s a backup solution only in modern context

[thorny flame]

Can you describe such a person to me?

I genuinely do not see the appeal in their lineup at all

[thorny topaz]

Dot vs magnified optic is a bit different.

One doesn't weigh much, the other does.

[ocean pike]

This person will argue until they pass out that their “Gucci” glock clone is the best thing since sliced bread even though they can’t get through a full magazine without a malfunction

[thorny flame]

It's not even that attractive of a gun though

Very ricer

[round sentinel]

And that’s not even a big deal when a magnified optic solution will still only make a full kitted rifle maybe 9 pounds. If you have issues with a 9 pound rifle that’s your own fault

[thorny topaz]

I would love to use red dot, but in my case, even with glasses, my astigmatism makes red dots unusable. So there's that personal preference, that I prefer irons, because I can actually hit my target.

[round sentinel]

And even then there’s small format magnified solutions that don’t weigh much, nor suck ass

[ocean pike]

It’s attractive to a certain group of individuals

[round sentinel]

Bro just get the 1x micro prism

[thorny flame]

What did he mean by this

[round sentinel]

Objectively better than irons and it’s not a dot

[thorny flame]

I think there are some more prisms that just got announced at shot including a holosun joint

[thorny topaz]

Yep, and that's why I said I need to invest in my own health.

[ocean pike]

Non-gun people

[round sentinel]

[thorny flame]

Kimber Americans?

[ocean pike]

Most of the “budget friendly” mindset

[round sentinel]

Holy shit real

[round sentinel]

Bro is getting mogged by women with carbines twice the weight of his rifle

[thorny flame]

I never understood this though because they are fucking giving Glocks away

[thorny topaz]

9+ pound rifle isn't a problem if you're firing from the bench. Walking around with it on rough terrain all day with a pack and kit, that's a different story.

[round sentinel]

Not really

9 pounds is a normal rifle

That’s a basic M4

[thorny topaz]

Well, then you're in better shape than me. Good on you.

[ocean pike]

Yes, but these people want all the stupid slide cuts and shiny barrels and whatever else. It would cost them more to do all that to a stock Glock so they see shadow systems as a godsend for saving them money(they are going to be kilt in da streetz)

[round sentinel]

My carbine is 15 pounds of stupidity and it’s honestly not terrible to carry around. Keeping her offhand stable is the only ‘issue’ but that’s any rifle

[thorny topaz]

Probably about what mine weighs with the optic and 60-rounder.

[round sentinel]

I need to swap the optic on her

[thorny flame]

I'm definitely in the pro lightweight rifle camp

[round sentinel]

What’s the rifle build

[thorny topaz]

Kind of a silly build at the moment. Probably gonna ditch the scope.

[round sentinel]

That’s def not 15

[thorny topaz]

Whatever it is, it's a lot more unwieldy than with irons and a 30-rounder.

Also takes too long to get good sight picture, but I think that's a me thing; just need more practice.

[round sentinel]

Probably 11

This is the 15+ gun. tho I’ve changed a couple things

Average colt IAR moment

[thorny flame]

I had a discussion in another channel about the current belt fed autism

[thorny topaz]

That's an interesting handguard. I don't think I've seen one like that before.

[round sentinel]

Oh?

[thorny flame]

What these people need is colt IAR

[round sentinel]

Based take

[thorny flame]

Not whatever insane proprietary upper

That they're selling for over colt IAR money

Idgi man

[round sentinel]

Technically it’s not a handguard. Monolithic colt upper with a massive block of aluminum bolted around a heavy barrel

That’s just the lower rail piece around it, instead of the slim one for the normal carbines

[thorny flame]

Everyone is trying to do super safe belt fed on a budget

At what point do you just give up and buy a 240

[thorny topaz]

There's a commitment, lol!
Looks neat, though.

[round sentinel]

When my fiancee gets here and we put the money aside to get a 240 as well

[round sentinel]

The commitment was finding a surefire BCG and making a custom spacer for the A5 buffer tube

But man she doesn’t move

[thorny flame]

You just need to be on the sbr with an lpvo wave

For realsies

[round sentinel]

Supported, probably can put an entire mag into the C zone at 150 yards

Shits absurd

[thorny flame]

This is a solved problem at this point

[round sentinel]

Unsupported, probably 100 yards

[round sentinel]

Real and true

[thorny flame]

Even the reddit special with an lpvo

Bcm aero whatever

G$ doesn't matter

[thorny topaz]

That's wild! Love it!

[round sentinel]

Yeah

I need to swap the optic but I’m not set yet

Considering the comp M4/M4S on a Spuhr BAM 308 mount

Since the 11.5 will be closer in drop to 308 than the 556 option

[thorny topaz]

Ah, but this, sadly.

It's actually gotten worse, now that I'm in my 40s.

[thorny flame]

Sure but consider

https://vortexoptics.com/razor-hd-gen-2-e-1-6x24-riflescope+reticle-JM-1~BDC

Or any number of other optics, there's a million good and not that expensive ones at this point

Even the PA non platinum line

[round sentinel]

He said LPVO not dot

Do Eotechs or green dots make you streak still?

[thorny flame]

The fiber illuminated stuff is nuclear bright

[thorny topaz]

Never looked through one.

[ocean pike]

I should probably weight this one. Not sure what it’s at

[blazing temple]

what in the sam hill fuck is this shit

[thorny topaz]

Bro, that's more than my rent.

[round sentinel]

Def should try looking thru an eotech or green dot, both tend to be better for some people

Also razor msrp is like twice as high if not more than average going price

[blazing temple]

why does it look like a strangled giraffe

[round sentinel]

I got one for 900 years ago, I’ve seen them as low as 750

[thorny topaz]

To turn you on, that's why.

[blazing temple]

it is NOT working

[thorny topaz]

$750 would be doable.
I'd wanna try before I buy, of course.

[thorny flame]

Buy one used

They're around that

[round sentinel]

It’s arguably one of the best duty LPVOs you can get

[thorny flame]

PA is blowing out their 1-8SFPs for 750

[round sentinel]

Overbuilt to fuck and just never die

[thorny topaz]

Good, then we don't have to shoot you, lol! 🤣

[blazing temple]

the gen2e is awesome

love mine

[round sentinel]

Yeah, they are

[blazing temple]

got it for a flat $1k

worth every penny

[round sentinel]

Id love the new EBR reticle but fuck paying that price for the gen 2e

[blazing temple]

the 1x is so fucking good

[round sentinel]

Since they haven’t made their way out in the wild much to lower price

[thorny flame]

They won't go down much

They're making them in the US

Zero fucking margin

[ocean pike]

It’s is quite literally the LPVO of LPVO’s

[round sentinel]

Yeah, I wasn’t betting on it

Well, people will argue NF but I don’t really agree with that

[thorny flame]

I mean it is the NF

For sure

[round sentinel]

And the vudu and VCOG both have issues

[round sentinel]

Clearer glass absolutely, but they aren’t as durable

[ocean pike]

People that argue that the NX8 or the atacr are better than the 1-6 razor have clearly never used either of those

[thorny flame]

But it's all tradeoffs unless you can afford an S&B or a ZCO

[round sentinel]

Which is kinda really important

[thorny flame]

But those are four thousand United States dollars

Which is several years worth of tacos

[round sentinel]

Kek

[ocean pike]

The eyebox and eye relief of the NF LPVO’s kills that entire line tbh

[thorny flame]

They were designed for different things

[round sentinel]

It’s precision glass, not duty glass

Simple as

[thorny flame]

The 1-10 makes the same compromises

[blazing temple]

what I really wonder about is the razors vs atacrs when it comes to their high magnification offerings

[thorny flame]

They're all pretty good for what they are

[round sentinel]

You mean their bolt gun glass?

[blazing temple]

ye

[round sentinel]

Or high end of say, 10x

Ok

[thorny flame]

But any mpvo will obliterate them

[round sentinel]

Yeah their bolt glass is nice af

[thorny flame]

At half the cost

[blazing temple]

I mean you never know you might need 25x on a gas gun

[round sentinel]

Def can, she just ain’t a normal duty build obv

[blazing temple]

I should clone a m110

[thorny flame]

The big razors are very good

At the several thousand dollar point it's basically about reticles and features

Not glass quality

[round sentinel]

So I hear. I’ve only had very limited time behind them

They look nice

[thorny flame]

It's sort of like every other gun argument where the people with the strongest opinions on them just can't afford it

[round sentinel]

Lmao real

[thorny flame]

Dudes in the trenches arguing about $1000 scopes

Like buddy pull some OT and buy a vortex what the fuck

[round sentinel]

So, they are like scar fanboys

[ocean pike]

This 6-24 Razor HD AMG is nice too. Stupid lightweight for what it is

[thorny flame]

The newest ones look really nice

[blazing temple]

oh yeah I need to get a tripod at some point

[thorny flame]

The 4-24s

Extremely usable range

[round sentinel]

I love the shift with some of the newer high end bolt guns adding dust covers

I mean it makes perfect sense, its just funny

[thorny flame]

https://vortexoptics.com/razor-hd-gen-iii-4-24x44-ffp-riflescope+reticle-EBR-7D~MOA

[ocean pike]

I really like the aesthetic of it tbh lol

[round sentinel]

Right?!

It’s just a sexy but very functional addition

More guns need them

[blazing temple]

damn I didnt even notice it thats kinda neat

[round sentinel]

Yeah a bunch of modern bolties have been adding them

[thorny flame]

Downstream of .mil contract requirements

[round sentinel]

Even normal civ guns tho

Not chasing contracts

[blazing temple]

it totally doesnt need it but I have a two round quiver on my boltie just because I like how it looks

[thorny flame]

There is a new steyr that looks nice

They're killing it

[round sentinel]

Oh yeah that thing is sexy

[thorny topaz]

The one true path for home defense.

[round sentinel]

I should build a 50AE bolt gun too to pair the stupid stuff im planning

[thorny flame]

Wouldn't it be easier to just take the cowards way out and do .50beo

Since that bolt face is common

[round sentinel]

Do I ever make it easy for myself

Yeah but opening a bolt face is super easy work

And make it take DE mags 🙏

[thorny flame]

Pain

[round sentinel]

I’d love a 500 or 460 boltie tho

Push some screaming hot repeater loads outta it that the revolver can’t take

[thorny flame]

PA does a cool 1.5-12

And then puts the shittiest reticle possible in it

[round sentinel]

That’s p small

[thorny flame]

Yeah it's a great size but they are allergic to simple reticles

So we'll see a normal reticle in two years

[round sentinel]

Kek

[next quarry]

Hey.
I have a questions.

1. Does someone used Konuspro Scopes?
2. Does someone shoots Benchrest? What scope are you using?

[white estuary]

I've owned several konuspro scopes. What's your question ?

I have shot bench rest recreationally

Scope I have been using recently Is just a USO B-10 because it's the best clarity I have and I'm only shooting 100 yards.

[next quarry]

To Konuspro:
How good is quality?
What model do you use for benchresting?
What magnification does it have?
Did they survive .22lr without issues?
How good is the visibility?

Sorry for such steamrolling with questions.

[white estuary]

Konuspro is lower end quality but serviceable. No ideal but not complete trash. What is your budget I could suggest other optics in the same range that preform better.

Quality of visibility is fine for broad daylight but suffers in poor lighting or overcast

They will survive .22 LR - they don't like semi auto center fire guns like the m1a or FAL ( heavy forward recoil impulse from the operating system)

For .22 LR bench rest at 100 meters I would suggest something in the 20 - 30 power range with a Second focal plane reticle

[next quarry]

At this moment i have Vortex Diamodblack Tactical 4-16 FFP Scope.
16 Magnification is not enough to see small Sighters on German Benchrest target.
Here is PDF for A3 paper target: https://www.br50.com/Download/DBRV-Benchrest-50-Meter-Target.pdf
I found Konuspro scope with 10-40 magnification for ~ 300€.
https://www.schuetzenland.de/Konus-KONUSPRO-M-30-10-40x52-Abs-Mil-Dot-bel
But somehow i cannot find enough reviews.
I don't have rifles more than .22lr
And i'm sure that the biggest caliber that i will get later is 5.56x45

[white estuary]

I will look around and see if I can find you something a little better. The problem with high magnification scopes that are cheap is the glass quality. You have 10-40 power but you won't be able to see anything because you are magnifying the imperfections in the rifle scope.

The diamondback is a good example of this. You probably see better at. X12 than you do x16

@next quarry I would look into Hawke and see if there is something available that you might like. Their quality is better than vortex at the price ranges you are looking at. Maybe consider saving a little more money and getting something in the 500-650 euro range for a large jump in performance.

Second focal plane is highly recommended for bench rest .22 LR shooting.

[next quarry]

Diamondblack is already 450€ scope here in Europa.

[next quarry]

Why not FFP?

[white estuary]

FFP requires design balances for reticle thickness and magnification. FFP Scopes require higher demands on build quality and are mechanically more complex.

You will get better optical performance from second focal plane scopes in the same price range.

Unless you need the capabilities offered by a FFP rifle scope for quick target correction and range estimation , the money is better served in higher optical performance in my opinion.

[round sentinel]

Finally someone said it about SFP supremacy :)

[white estuary]

There is a huge " if" there but ye.

FFP for " unknown - active shooting "

SFP for " target style - known distance - static" shooting

[round sentinel]

I even disagree there, since it all comes down to preference. And even duty wise I’ll use a SFP over a FFP

Reticles of FFP just get iffy

[next quarry]

Tbh I'm using X8, X10, x12 and X16 on my scope cause of rules of DSB/WSB(shooting clubs).
And yes, X4-X7 is almost unusable in Diamondblack scope.
Cause lines are almost invisible.
But i like MRAD tree in reticle on max magnification.
May be it is really worth it to check SFP scopes with simple cross reticle.

[round sentinel]

For Target or simple point and click style of shooting (usually encompasses general duty rifle use), SFP is super nice cause of the generally very clean cross reticles

[white estuary]

If you are allowed to use max magnification , then SFP is fine because the reticle will be scaled correctly.

At half lower ( x8 for example with your X16). You simply double the scope marking value. Instead of each mark being 1 mil , they are 2 mil now.

[round sentinel]

^

Most companies will also chart out minimum and maximum magnification spacing in moa

So it’s p easy to work off of that

[next quarry]

For Europe it is better MRAD.
0.1 MRAD == 1cm on 100 Meters

[round sentinel]

Doesn’t really matter either way

Most companies will mark their dimensions

Funny thing is that moa should technically be universal, because it’s a degree constraint, not an imperial nor metric one

It’s just coincidence that it works out to be almost exactly an inch at 100 yards

[next quarry]

RAD==radian is also universal thing.
One full rotation is 2*pi Radian.

[round sentinel]

Yeah, it’s just a specific radial that equates to a metric measurement

Hell I don’t even remember where moa is derived from, cause it’s not from guns. It’s obv just 1/60th a degree

[white estuary]

Both are just angular units of measurement

[round sentinel]

Yeah

[white estuary]

If you range a target in horses , and the target is 600 horses away. Then each mil dot is worth .6 horses

Etc etc

[round sentinel]

I’m honestly impartial to any of them, cause all that matters is that you zero it

[white estuary]

I learned on a mk3 Leupold & stevens ultra. So I got to do moa math on a mil reticle

[round sentinel]

Yeah I learned on old moa leupolds and fire fields etc

[white estuary]

Actual suffering

I also learned on USMC mils not army mils so that's a whole other ball game .

[round sentinel]

[white estuary]

Fuckin crayon eater mils

[white estuary]

Sr3m in my future soon.

Am gonna do bad decisions about it

[round sentinel]

If it actually hits market for not an ungodly price

Same

I like the sr3m a helluva lot more than the vss/val personally

I’d need the NFA grip model too

[upper cedar]

PKM coming to USA?? Lmao

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1KjHhLrHQw/

[white estuary]

Ye Im getting the nfa version when / if its not 5k usd

I will probably convert it to a VSSM hybrid thing

[ocean pike]

$4k and only 100 units. At least the one being made by the company that’s at shot show

[round sentinel]

Yeah, if that’s a preproduction batch like the L85’s coming form to a proposed 4k on general sale, I’d be interested for 3k or less tbh

[ocean pike]

I’m not sure why they’re doing them in 9x39 tho

I mean I know that’s original and all but

[round sentinel]

Cloner autism

I’d actually be very interested in a 762 one

[white estuary]

I like 9*39 it does better than .3000 blkout

For subsonic shit

( I say this as someone who already owns a rifle in ,9*39)

[sudden moon]

Because anything else would be heresy tbh

Though 338arc could be neat for people that have to buy ammo

Would love to see an IRL SR2-M tho...

[ocean pike]

It would just be nice to see guns produced in a caliber that’s actually available

[sudden moon]

Yeah, but I'd rather see it made in something that makes sense, not another fuckin 300blk

Stupid ass cartridge imo

[naive epoch]

Turkish paperweight

[round sentinel]

🤮 🪳

[near axle]

I just think they’re neat and I still have the Glock 22 with 40 and 9 barrel

[misty cove]

wouldnt the same chassis be used

or could be

cuz its slightly longer bullet so

just replace mag and some parts

[sudden moon]

Completely different. The sr2m is the 9x21 SMG

[misty cove]

yeah

so barrel doesnt need to be changed

does it

[sudden moon]

It would

[misty cove]

aw dnag

dang

i thoughti t was jus longer 9x19

[scenic jetty]

Because the semi auto versions are extremely expensive and a closed bolt

The iar concept is still way cheaper

[misty cove]

just get a ar10 and imitate a 240

[scenic jetty]

I mean red right hand does make an iar upper in 7.62

[white estuary]

Large frame Vss in 8.6 blkout

[white estuary]

Russians measure bullets differently.

They measure lan to lan where most western places measure groove to groove

That's why 7.6254r is .311" dia and why 7.6251 is .308" dia

[round sentinel]

Would

[scenic jetty]

Wasn’t that round created by q ?

[tired aurora]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/K6jwIVOuDRc

@round sentinel here something for you

US made L85s from A1 to A3

[plush warren]

I can’t wait for my Redding dies to show up I can’t wait to try pushing my .300 to 900 yards

I also got some 220 grain SMK’s and ELD’s, waiting on some 230 grain SMK’s too

Gonna do load development, group them, and see how it goes :>

[plush warren]

Yeah but if you separate the art from the artist it’s pretty bangin

[white estuary]

I got some of the Swiss P AP for .300 win mag recently for my AP collection

Spicy boys

[plush warren]

Oh very nice! AP is cool! I was talking about my .300 blackout though :p shoulda been more specific

[rocky valley]

Id rock all of em

[modern sandal]

I’m really not fond of the 686 with that acro

They should NOT be able to charge an extra grand for a fucking acro and a single port barrel

[rocky valley]

They were indeed smoking crack with the price

I mean for the price of switching from my metal M&P to the new spec I could get roughly 7,500 rounds of 9mm to train with which will make me a better shooter than a ported 9mm

[sudden moon]

9x21 is. 9x39 is not

[sudden moon]

You misspelled 375 Raptor.

[modern sandal]

I mean I guess it is a no lock 686 but they did a shitty finish too instead of just leaving it a polish or cerakote

Fuckin eggshell ass color

[rocky valley]

Personally I enjoy the color and TBFH its not that bad to get a gun cerakoted

I'm thinking about getting my M&P cerakoted M81 woodland here soon

[echo cairn]

I want all of them 😭 minus the acros

[modern sandal]

I’m kinda excited about the new 10mm

Or wait

Did they drop a new 10

[sudden moon]

I don't understand the appeal of a metal framed M&P

[modern sandal]

I was low key a bit heated with the retro commercial and then not bringing back the older DA/SA 10mm

And introducing the fucking acro ones

[sudden moon]

I love my M&Ps, but like why make a metal frame based on a poly gun

[proven hearth]

Because people want it and it will sell

[modern sandal]

Metal frames my beloved

(I don’t own a single smith outside a wheel gun)

[proven hearth]

Why would you just ignore what customers have been asking for? That'd be a pretty terrible business decision.

[carmine tide]

Psa is doing ok

[modern sandal]

They keep blue balling the dudes wanting the retros

They keep posting shit with them and then joking like they want to re release them then throw it in the trash

[proven hearth]

Only because normies keep buying garbage they'll never shoot so they'll never see the issues with said gun.

Literally psa's business motto

[echo cairn]

Honestly I may buy the revolver and sell the acro

[modern sandal]

“Only 500 for a gas ring”

[carmine tide]

Put the acro on a revolver

[echo cairn]

Acro can kick rocks

[modern sandal]

The acro is already on the revolver

The problem is the acro is sold with it

[echo cairn]

This is an MPS neighborhood

[modern sandal]

Like fuck at least put an rmr on it or something

[proven hearth]

Never forget them coming out and saying their customers will never shoot enough to notice the issues with their rifles, then immediately deleting said tweet

[modern sandal]

I’m still a bit interested in this

[modern sandal]

They’re making that brace for legit about every big brand except like the cowboy action guns

[modern sandal]

No shock

My H&R after 1500 rounds has something loose up by the handguard

I’ve got tape on it anyways so I could care less

[rocky valley]

Ergos are goated

[modern sandal]

Not the gas block but still

[proven hearth]

Buy a better rifle

Ez

[echo cairn]

Pepperidge farm remembers

[modern sandal]

That’s what the 6 arc is for 🙏

I do need to get a different lower for that thing

[echo cairn]

You still can't hit shit with an 6 arc

[sudden moon]

Ergos aren't any different in the metal version tho... M&p does have good ergos tho

[modern sandal]

Shit I blew a bobcats shit smoove off with it

[rocky valley]

Legit goated

[echo cairn]

Something within me desires this wheel gun

[modern sandal]

Haven’t had a chance to shoot anything else with it

[modern sandal]

That two tone finish is making me angry

[lunar marsh]

My couple H&R retros have shit ton of trigger time in them. Still running solid

[rocky valley]

They are slightly different. At least to my hands the metal feels better also the fitement is better but my old frame was used and abused

[echo cairn]

Hush now fudd

[spare sun]

I need to upgrade dawg im still rocking the 1.0😭

[echo cairn]

Your time is coming

[sudden moon]

You don't have to preach to me my guy

[modern sandal]

Like death time or something else

[proven hearth]

The 1.0 is fine.

[echo cairn]

I'm more impressed by this handgun than a staccato I owned

[rocky valley]

Have you handled the metal yet? Its lowkey nice

[sudden moon]

1.0 just needs a different trigger

[modern sandal]

I’m waiting on Henry to drop that X model rimfire

[sudden moon]

Yeah, not a fan

[rocky valley]

Because its the bigest sleeper in the industry

[echo cairn]

I can't wait to get my hands on that steel frame

[sudden moon]

Heavier for no reason

[rocky valley]

The extra texture will be nice

[echo cairn]

On HOPs M&p video a comment stood out to me. "Everyone is a M&p guy, they just don't know it yet"

[spare sun]

Yeah, when i get back to the states ima drop some money on that and to get a red dot for my Glock. Any suggestions for good triggers?

[proven hearth]

Apex

No reason to buy anything else

[rocky valley]

Yeah I mean the main reason people havent switched to M&P is they have too many glock mags and holsters laying around

[sudden moon]

Apex

[echo cairn]

Just the weight and rigidity alone makes me hard

[sudden moon]

Get their barrel too

[modern sandal]

I was pretty pleased with the 10mm one

[echo cairn]

Thankfully I only had 2 Glocks at the time and like 3 holsters. But me being me I don't mind throwing shit on tacswap

[sudden moon]

M&P makes the best glocks.

[rocky valley]

Can second this. Dont fuck with the barrel but I had the apex trigger on the frame I swapped with the Mrs and oh my god its the best striker fired trigger I have ever shot

[modern sandal]

Handled one in store the other day and the aggressive texture and overall weight of it made me really happy

[sudden moon]

Glock brand glocks suck

[modern sandal]

It’ll prob be one I pick up

[proven hearth]

Lmao what

[sudden moon]

Apex barrel is a game changer on a 1.0

[rocky valley]

The 10mm can be a little finicky on ammo at least the early ones were

[modern sandal]

I’ve seen a lot of good about them

[echo cairn]

Idk if ima get 2 steel framed or just 1. I want to keep one stock and port the other with like a 507 comp as a like no excuse pure performance M&p

[modern sandal]

Some dude killed a charging Kodiak brown bear with his a while back

Was wounded already but he dumpstered it with the 10

[rocky valley]

I have 0 experience with the 1.0 I bought a glock because of garand thumb (ashamed to admit that) then I made the switch after I tried the 2.0 because I wanted a car gun I didnt care about lmfao

[sudden moon]

I can attest that my 10mm is flawless with every load I've put thru it

[proven hearth]

Glock 20 is the king of 10mms

[modern sandal]

Or a griz

[proven hearth]

Not sorry

[modern sandal]

I sold my g20 because I didn’t like it

[echo cairn]

I know the gun collective ported a M&p10 and it was low key gas

[modern sandal]

I shot like one rabbit with it and called it a day

[sudden moon]

Sorry but no.

[proven hearth]

Its okay to be wrong

You'll be fine

[modern sandal]

Man I want that ported one but I want to be able to run a can

[rocky valley]

TBFH glock is like a old colt m4 compared to a giesle

The m&P being the giesle

[sudden moon]

Just need a spare unported barrel

[modern sandal]

The sportsman’s warehouse exclusive M&P 10mm is calling me

[echo cairn]

That's....honestly makes sense

[modern sandal]

That green and gold

[sudden moon]

I'm glad you recognize that, since you're wrong.

[rocky valley]

For a while glock is going to be the standard (milspec) but there is better out there

[proven hearth]

Low tier bait. Try harder next time.

[echo cairn]

Honestly if the M&p came out the same time as Glock I doubt Glock would be a thing or be as big as it is at least

[sudden moon]

Glock is only as big as it is because they give deep deep discounts to LEO

[rocky valley]

oh 100% also the 1.0 wasnt that great just decent the 2.0 was the game changer but the 1.0 kind of tainted the rep

[rocky valley]

POV you are sig talking to the DOD

[proven hearth]

Actual low tier bait

[echo cairn]

Mostly that gawd awful 1.0 trig

[rocky valley]

Even the hinged trigger on the OG 2.0's

I've run the 2.0 for so long mine still had the hinged trigger when I bought it

[echo cairn]

I think my only real gripe with the M&p as a platform is the slightly higher bore axis can cause a rocking motion. Other than that I honestly don't see an issue with it

[spare sun]

Anything’s better than the fuckin M17 we use man, i shot the Norwegian sharpshooter qual with it not too long ago and it was a thoroughly unenjoyable weapon.

[rocky valley]

Personally I dont notice that

[echo cairn]

Well, maybe the optic cut not being too deep but meh

[rocky valley]

The triggers feel like an airsoft gun

[echo cairn]

Only time I notice it a lot is when I'm at 25-50 yards doing fast stuff

[spare sun]

That’s an insult to my airsoft guns, i paid good money for those things😂

[proven hearth]

Get your money back

[echo cairn]

Then you have the knights tooth gap

[proven hearth]

The issue here is, it's not an ARMS or DD rail

[carmine tide]

Needs a trigger guard mounted laser and porting

[rocky valley]

Block II was the greatest block change my mind

[carmine tide]

Idk blocks of cheese are pretty good

[rocky valley]

better be pepperjack

[carmine tide]

Fuck no

Gouda and Munster

[rocky valley]

Gouda but coulda been fetta

[echo cairn]

It's already ported

[carmine tide]

Oh yea didnt see it

[echo cairn]

My rail doesn't have a gap

[carmine tide]

DD owners are bubble blowing babies

And psa owners with more money

[rocky valley]

I only own the rail what does that make me lmfao

[carmine tide]

Im talking prebuilt DDs

(Slur)

[echo cairn]

Wait. Pin this convo

[rocky valley]

Oh yes, PSA owners with more money

[echo cairn]

Who and or what is the most annoying owner in the gun hobby?

[carmine tide]

Fudds

[rocky valley]

Olight owners

[carmine tide]

Im gonna buy a pkm to give you ptsd episodes

[lunar marsh]

You’d be put down before you knew what was happening

[echo cairn]

Could be gun, brand, product, etc

[sudden moon]

Things I wished they'd add to Tarkov... Razor Gen 3 6-36.

Pic related

[echo cairn]

I can see it, but I have ya beat

[carmine tide]

Just tie a string

Actually wait those pkms have to be semi auto im dumb

Wonder if there will be a frt or ss for them

[echo cairn]

The most annoying mfs is one hundred concepts owners. They will sure as hell let you know they own any of their products and ask why you don't have a light cover if they see your rifle

[carmine tide]

Scratch the pkm thing im just gonna put footprints on your grass and use a colored pen on an official document @lunar marsh

[lunar marsh]

lol

I’m domesticated now. Those don’t bother me

[carmine tide]

Never even heard of 100 concepts

[echo cairn]

Don't even look it up

[carmine tide]

Is it gbrs but worse

[echo cairn]

Basically $40-100 for 3d printed covers

[carmine tide]

Oh kill flash people

[echo cairn]

Worse

[carmine tide]

Hang on now im curious

[lone moss]

@round sentinel

[carmine tide]

Wtf

[round sentinel]

mines better

[lone moss]

New eotechs and berettas cool though

[lone moss]

Truth but was actually at the colt booth

[modern sandal]

Does Henry have the threaded rimfire there

[round sentinel]

peak

[modern sandal]

I seen it in one of their videos talking about the 2026 lineup

[lone moss]

I haven’t seen Henry yet, I believe they are in one of the side rooms that I haven’t been in yet

[modern sandal]

Damn

Ruger got anything interesting

[proven hearth]

Its henry it's not worth looking at

[lone moss]

Beer and cheddar penguin time currently

[lunar marsh]

White light cover. Dumb. If you’re that concerned with light discipline you’re probably running IR. Just another larp expense

[proven hearth]

Or, hear me out

Just run a clicky

[carmine tide]

Lmao they make covers for nods too

[proven hearth]

If youre that much of a butter finger you can't trust a pad because of white light nd. The z68 exists

[echo cairn]

You want one too??

[carmine tide]

Pads are only good depending on grip

My grip basically rests my thumb on the back of my light

[proven hearth]

Pads are fine.

[carmine tide]

Dont need a pad

[lone moss]

Hell fucking yes. Chunk ported, acro, with an extended cylinder release is fucking hot

[carmine tide]

If you c clamp i can see pads being better

[white estuary]

Not wrong but with how many projectiles are being specifically made for 8.6 maybe less so

[proven hearth]

Why would you not be c clamping

[echo cairn]

Ikr?? Just the color combo fucks. I'll prob just sell the acro tbh. I like the MPS better

[carmine tide]

Bc i run a vertical foregrip

[echo cairn]

God if they would have made it an 8 shot I'd be down bad

[proven hearth]

You can c clamp even still.

[carmine tide]

Yea

But I dont

[proven hearth]

Split grip is king.

[lone moss]

True but still hot we are getting more revolver stuff

[sudden moon]

8.6 would be less dumb without the extreme fast twist.

[carmine tide]

@echo cairn light covers seem useful you don't want the sun to reflect off the light you sound like a hater

Im buying 6 sets of light covers

[echo cairn]

Have fun paying $40 for $.40 in filament

[lunar marsh]

😂🤦‍♂️

[carmine tide]

Ragebait failed

Damn

[echo cairn]

True. Just the first spec series one too and no matter what the fudds say I think they killed it. I'll prob grab one bc I don't see a 2k revolver selling out fast

[echo cairn]

It's super hard to ragebait me

[carmine tide]

Ill figure out a way

I always do

[lunar marsh]

100 concepts seems like a company built around convincing larpers that the gunfight of their dreams is just around the corner

[echo cairn]

GL

[echo cairn]

T H I S

[carmine tide]

So 80% of gear companies

[echo cairn]

Yeah I get it, white light ND and reflections are bad. But $40 at the cheapest for a light cover? Yeah no

[lunar marsh]

Yes since they primarily market to civ market that’ll never see a 2 way range

[proven hearth]

Is it that much of an issue though when your most likely scenario to even use a rifle is home defense?

[carmine tide]

You could just hose clamp some torn up ripstop and bungie cord

Does the same thing

[echo cairn]

Or do like OG delta guys and get an t2 cover and cut it in half and wrap it around your light with 100 mile hour tape

[echo cairn]

This too

[true mist]

because theyre trying to take money from people who wouldnt even wear through airsoft gear off amazon, all they can do is play off imagination and fear

[lunar marsh]

Exactly. If you’re dealing with a home intruder light discipline is no longer a concern

[carmine tide]

@lunar marsh hang on atlas would love this thing

[echo cairn]

And I think the least of my worries is a white light ND in my home

[lunar marsh]

Let’s be honest, he probably owns stock in the company

[white estuary]

what makes you say the extreme fast twist is redacted?

[true mist]

i cant really think of a legal self defense situation as a civilian where a light cover would be essential

[carmine tide]

Honestly until I get my 11" built im using my handgun for home defense

[echo cairn]

Kilt in the streets tbh

[carmine tide]

Ngmi

[round sentinel]

not really

I got an 8.6, the twise is p damn neat

[carmine tide]

As a civilian you cannot go camping with a sleeping bag incase russian paratroopers attack and you'll get a face full of dirty Russian nut sack

[true mist]

i love my rifles but im still most likely grabbing my handgun for home defense personally, bump in the night it just makes more sense to throw on my belt with my pistol instead of throwing on a sling just to go out and see that a horse did something stupid

[lunar marsh]

This. In today’s world if you shoot an intruder but they determine you laid in an ambush with NODs and IR into do it you might have some legal issues to deal with

[sudden moon]

Because the fast twist causes issues with cast bullets and some regular jacketed ones, and doesn't really benefit in any real way.

[misty cove]

That's why its called 100 concepts

[round sentinel]

what it does, is give some nasty expansion for the subsonic loads

[proven hearth]

I'm using whatever is closest, or perceived as the closest. It doesn't matter either which way. Both will put a hole in said target. Main thing to be concerned about is over penetration, depending on where you live and if you have family/roommates in said home.

[lunar marsh]

Throw out 100 concepts and see which sticks

[misty cove]

The cheapest

Or most edgy

[white estuary]

Literally designed for solid copper
don't use solid copper
Get bad results

huh...

[round sentinel]

[white estuary]

Like I get what you're saying

[misty cove]

How do u do the linę thing

[white estuary]

green text

[round sentinel]

Ive even used normal jacketed, shits great and doesnt do anything negative

[misty cove]

Acting like i know how to do that

[carmine tide]

I sleep with a firearm

[white estuary]

i've seen some examples of the extreme 1 :1 stuff doing bad things

on supers

[lunar marsh]

My bedroom house gun

[white estuary]

"> Green text posting"

[misty cove]

Oh

[proven hearth]

As do I, still stand by my statement though

[carmine tide]

I also sleep in body armor

[white estuary]

@round sentinel

oooo

[misty cove]

Ok ima go sleep

[white estuary]

Finally some fucking 9.3mm bullets designed for sub sonic

[sudden moon]

Solid copper is expensive.

[proven hearth]

Blubber is not body armor confix.

[carmine tide]

Would this have an effect on the trout population

[proven hearth]

Love you buddy

[blazing temple]

we've tried to tell him that he doesnt listen

[white estuary]

You're shooting .338 Lapua stubby.

[round sentinel]

right?!

[carmine tide]

Ill beat you with @blazing temple body

[white estuary]

If cheap is a concern don't get a gun chambered in 5$ bills.

[scenic jetty]

Gun owners themselves

[proven hearth]

[blazing temple]

nuh uh

[white estuary]

no lies detected

[sudden moon]

No, I'm shooting 45 and 375 Raptor, because I didn't fall for the trap that is KB's coke fueled madness

[white estuary]

like don't get me wrong, 375 raptor is awesome.

[scenic jetty]

I got guns in more expensive calibers but I think they are practical minus my 5.45

[carmine tide]

found a photo of @proven hearth

[proven hearth]

I'm the CAGGEST gnome to ever walk the planet

[blazing temple]

is that a backwards lpvo

[carmine tide]

yea

[proven hearth]

You wouldn't get it.

[carmine tide]

hes a navy admiral

[blazing temple]

incredible

[proven hearth]

Mounting your lpvo backwards actually increases FOV

[carmine tide]

"Theyre gonna be looking for guys with properly set up rifles"

[proven hearth]

I'm too small of a target anyways. They'd miss me.

[lone moss]

Fs

[echo cairn]

Only 1k units total tho

[scenic jetty]

lol

[proven hearth]

All I have to do is hide in tall grass. Easy

[scenic jetty]

True

[slate heath]

Backwards LVPO on a ACR

[unique fjord]

Bring back acr ):

[carmine tide]

Psa jakl

[unique fjord]

psa

No thank you I like not recreating Kentucky ballistics

[digital dew]

Link to the side shell holder? Also what rds is that?

[lunar marsh]

https://esstac.com/7rd-shotgun-card-12gauge/

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/100209956?pid=151704

[rocky valley]

And with this we’re back in business

Hopefully going to the red from blue will help with the over gassing but I may still need an H4 buffer

I did not realize just how much a dedicated 5.56 can would over gas my shit

[lunar marsh]

I’m on day 13 waiting for form 4 approval…still waiting to see how it’s going to run suppressed

[rocky valley]

Also maybe a dumb question but would using regular gun oil instead of grease on the buffer contributed to the failure?

[lunar marsh]

Shouldn’t have

[rocky valley]

Thats what I thought. I think the spring was just being abused by the bolt and buffer coming back at mach fuck

[ocean pike]

Need me to get you one?

[echo cairn]

Not rn

[unique fjord]

Guess I shouldn’t mention I got approved

[lunar marsh]

What was your submission date?

[unique fjord]

Sunday.

Ngl I expected a better freak out like one would with a blue hair

):

Would’ve been funny if it was tho

[lunar marsh]

I know ppl that submitted days before me still not approved and guys days after me approved. It’s just a painful wait

[unique fjord]

When I went in around Christmas most of the approvals barely took a day or two

[scenic jetty]

@unique fjord hey do you do 6mm arc at all ?

[unique fjord]

Nope just your normal ,
.303, 8mm , 762.39/54r , 556, 9mm, .45

I’m too poor for those kinda meme speciality rounds

[scenic jetty]

I’ve been trying it out and I like it but it’s been kinda meh for groups

I’m on the fence about getting rid of it but I really like to shoot it

[unique fjord]

Offer you some chick fil a for it

For the new overzealous mod for legal reasons this is a joke

[lunar marsh]

Just got approved. On way to pick it up lol

[thorny flame]

this is only funny because you're just drinking another company's koolaid

sucks to suck though ig?

[scenic jetty]

i know lol

[sudden moon]

hey if you want the more expensive less performant option...

it's your money. :p

[thorny flame]

.375 is just for the handloader bois with autism

not a commercially viable product

and no one will ever use it for .mil

[sudden moon]

oh nooooooo

[thorny flame]

me when i shoot wildcats no one cares about

JD jones is that u

[sudden moon]

my brother in christ, that was 8.6blk yesterday.

[thorny flame]

you will never see an ammo can with .375

i just want your autistic ass to remember that

[sudden moon]

imagine thinking that matters

[thorny flame]

ammunition availibility for your niche subsonic cartridge?

yeah sure that never mattered for anyone

commercial support is all that matters for any of this shit

arguing about 200ft/lbs of energy when you can't even find ammo

[sudden moon]

looks at cases of ammo

sitting right there

[thorny flame]

they just ran more 8.6blk in full auto at shot than .375 that has ever existed

unserious people

[plush warren]

Lets be so for real anything subsonic is already niche as hell

[scenic jetty]

https://x.com/loganngames/status/2014110214849450159

[thorny flame]

why not both? that's the entire schtick

literally the entire point of the .300blk saga

[scenic jetty]

@round sentinel i know you want one of these

[plush warren]

Wasn’t that also the schtick with .300BO and people kinda realised you get infinitely better results if you build your gun for one or the other instead of trying to do both?

[thorny flame]

the LSW is wicked hot

[scenic jetty]

yea but i wont get one

[thorny flame]

no, that's why the MCX was adopted

[plush warren]

Adopted by who and in what numbers

[round sentinel]

hes shown me its progress as hes been working on it

[thorny flame]

socom gooners

[plush warren]

Because I’ve seen far more sub/ super specific AR’s in the wild than MCX’s

[scenic jetty]

oh thats pretty cool

[thorny flame]

a zillion other police guys

[thorny flame]

not work guns, though

[round sentinel]

I mean, not unexpected when Im working collab design with him

kek

[scenic jetty]

huh i did not know that, looks good though

[thorny flame]

why do you think the LVAW clones are so hot rn

[round sentinel]

yeah, my L22 handguards are officially contracted with him :)

[plush warren]

I work at a range that hosts several PD’s and other LE contingents, I haven’t seen MCX’s more than like twice tbh

[thorny flame]

i mean cool guy euro cops

[scenic jetty]

hell yea

[ocean pike]

I’m siggin rn actually

[thorny flame]

doesn't make sense for the US domestic police

[plush warren]

Oxymoron right there tbh fam

[thorny flame]

counter terror units etc

[scenic jetty]

fucking sigger

[thorny flame]

etc etc

[ocean pike]

I'll remember this

[scenic jetty]

lol

only sig i used to have was an m17 but i sold it after the whole thing

[thorny flame]

it seems right now the solicitation is out for the next stuff

[plush warren]

I’m failing to see how euros adopting the MCX relates to .300 being best used in a gun set up for one or the other between subs and supers

[thorny flame]

because you have adjustable gas with a switch

[plush warren]

Like most custom AR’s?

Or any tuned AR for that matter

[thorny flame]

it's a simple toggle to a different gas jet

[scenic jetty]

i built out a 300 blk upper with an adjustable gas block

sold it though cause the round is a meme

[thorny flame]

there are some niche products for this like the blackout defense situation

but it's not an MCX lever

[plush warren]

Like 80% of other adjustable gas blocks?

[plush warren]

Hell my Riflespeed is literally a knob that I turn

Has numbers and everything

[thorny flame]

i'm not talking about fine adjustment

you could be like oh the FAL has adjustable gas, great, not what i'm talking about

[plush warren]

I mean you brought up the FAL, that kinda is what you’re talking about

[thorny flame]

no cop/soldier is doing field gas adjustments

no one wants this

[plush warren]

Then why talk about it being so good on the MCX?

[thorny flame]

because the primary customer is .mil

vs something like a honey badger

or any of the other DI guns

[plush warren]

I can guarantee you that the average mil/ LE .300 is AR based

Like purely from economy of scale

[thorny flame]

tangentially related

this is the crye auction gun this year

[plush warren]

That’s a fuckin critter and a half

Neat

[thorny flame]

and the SOLGW

you'll start to notice a trend here, though

[scenic jetty]

what the fuck is that handguard

[thorny flame]

tucked can

[plush warren]

Yeah that’s pretty popular recently, I tried it for a bit but it wasn’t really my thing

Makes it more annoying to take the can off for cleaning

That reminds me I need to get the mount off my AR so I can clean it and redo the thread locker

[lunar marsh]

It’s cold as shit out tonight but I might have to throw on the 31s and try her out

[scenic jetty]

that looks so good

[thorny flame]

🍷 a fine vintage

[rocky valley]

Ditched pic due to the size just to increase size to tuck a can lol

[thorny flame]

the pic isn't going to get used though so who cares

let me remind you of the original

15 year old guns at this point

and the hood classic obv

and the new shit

curious to see how it shakes out

[unique fjord]

bud just made a fallout4 gun

[thorny flame]

real function over form hours

there's another tumor mcx handguard floating around too

ah

HRF is doing it

@ocean pike

[unique fjord]

needs a stock and the tactical felony stick

[round sentinel]

Also, called it on the daewoo K7s coming eventuallt

[thorny flame]

they're going to sell a lot of those

[round sentinel]

Real

[lone moss]

Yeah if snt can even get out to the k2’s lmao

[round sentinel]

Ikr lmao

[ocean pike]

Not too bad looking actually

[thorny flame]

they can price them stupid given the buyer demo of the K2

[lone moss]

They said June last year lmfao

Still no k2’s

[thorny flame]

i assume either ATF stuff or domestic production/assembly

[leaden raptor]

@round sentinel

got anything horrid you've made recently?

[digital dew]

What red dot is that you’re using?

[scenic jetty]

im getting my 870 threaded for a rail and a choke

[lunar marsh]

It’s an AP Duty RDS

Finally done

[scenic jetty]

that thing looks sick af

gonna spray paaint it next

[lunar marsh]

Nope. I did paint it. Changed my mind and stripped it down a few weeks ago

[scenic jetty]

oh nice it looks good

[latent rain]

Went to the range. Middle was about 15 yards, bottom left about 25 yards, and top right 30 yards. I know it’s not great, but I feel it’s not bad either.

[thorny flame]

M1 indoors seems like it would be unpleasant

[latent rain]

Yea, but I live in an Atlanta, and the nearest outdoor range is 45 miles away.

However there was 2 dudes shooting a deagle next to me.

[thorny flame]

@round sentinel https://www.instagram.com/p/DTsbXRsCYmU/

probably relevant to you

arken LRF annoucement

insane how low the prices on these are

[west zealot]

I need some help diagnosing this, its a Rise Armament RA434 in an aero lower. How do I get the hammer to stay back?

[thorny flame]

what is the problem

[west zealot]

The hammer goes forward without pressing the trigger, and another issue with the disconnector holding the hammer back even when the trigger is pressed

[thorny flame]

oh i see now lmao

casette trigger tings

you should probably contact RA || and buy a better trigger ||

[west zealot]

[thorny flame]

they don't exactly have the best reputation

[west zealot]

I mean it looked worth it finding one for cheap

[round sentinel]

It ain’t loading for me. What is it?

[thorny flame]

try the link again

arken LRF

[round sentinel]

Arken

Oof

[mortal marsh]

I feel like shooting a .22lr at 100 yards isnt a great idea

[round sentinel]

It’s perfectly normal and fine for target

[thorny flame]

skill issue

[mortal marsh]

Only issue is my eyesight

Other than that i have nothing else to say, still hitting those 10 pointers

[round sentinel]

Oh yeah forgor. Eh, I’ve been really slow because of life on projects. Next project is in the planning stage, developing a 50AE sub gun

[round sentinel]

Yeah that’s completely fair lol

[mortal marsh]

And the iron sights on that particular rifle dont really fit my taste

[thorny flame]

it looks better than the jakl did but rip to all the beta testers

[thin cypress]

It’s literally just a Jakl that removes the coolness of a Jakl

[thorny flame]

but the jakl was never cool

they're doing ACR we have at home

[thin cypress]

Which is cool

Even extra cool is it could fit on any AR15 lower but now it’s all proprietary and will probably never see market

[thorny flame]

feels kinda 433 inspired but that gun is like 4x the cost and engineering

[thin cypress]

I like my Jakl but I just wanted a piston AR platform that’s not an MCX, I may go get a BRN180 and compare the two

[thorny flame]

yeah but you end up spending all this money to get a worse mcx

worse bren, worse scar etc

[thin cypress]

I dunno if I’d say worse MCX my only complaint with the Jakl is no forward assist as the piston sometimes won’t slam into battery on a reload

[thorny flame]

the brn-180 is at least redeemed on cost

and simplicity

[thin cypress]

The Jakl uppers are only like 750 right now

[thorny flame]

i just don't really see the value, even at 750

[thin cypress]

I mean I can understand why it’s priced the way it is just due to the fat chunk of aluminum required to even begin making one

[thorny flame]

esp since we're now on the third? fourth? iteration of the jakl wtih this annoucement

[thin cypress]

Third I guess

Cause first gen Jakl were shit, second Gen fixed a lot of the issues which is mine, and now third is the AXR whatever the fuck

[thorny flame]

well the jakl 3.0 got scrapped to get this

i think that was PSA's words

[thin cypress]

They were calling it Jakl 2.0 or whatever

Their 2k11 they showed looked pretty cool but have yet to see anything about it like always

[thorny flame]

i think those will sell okay if they work

[thin cypress]

I’ve not necessarily heard anything bad about the dagger lineup

I wouldn’t own one cause it’s just another cheap Glock clone but if it’s any indication of their pistols then I may try their 2k11

[round sentinel]

XCR at home

[thorny flame]

they're short stroke now

[round sentinel]

And yeah they said ‘this is what the jakl evolved into’

The XCR had a short stroke iteration for the L

You can still get them for the M

[round sentinel]

There’s been a ton bad about the dagger kek

Nothing that shithole company has made has ever been good

[echo cairn]

I wouldn't trust a PSA product as far as I could throw it

[round sentinel]

Real

If this design came from anyone except psa it would probably be good

[thin cypress]

I wouldn’t know cause I don’t care probably also why I’ve never heard anything about it

[echo cairn]

To be fair the spear and mcx is similar and still very meh

[thin cypress]

MCX barrel lock up is wild

[round sentinel]

Colt mono internal castle nut setup. It’s old

[thorny flame]

i think the AR lineup is okay, everything else????

just a lot of half assing

[echo cairn]

after talking to someone who worked at sig saying out of spec parts could go on non MIL or LEO guns I haven't really looked at mcx's

[thin cypress]

If you’re fucking up an AR at this point you’re just a failure

[round sentinel]

It’s not. At all

They still break constantly

[echo cairn]

Remember the gas ring fiasco? Yeah. That's all I gota say ab psa ars

[thin cypress]

Can’t remember if I shared my new build here yet or not

[echo cairn]

Damn. I liked it till the ooooogl

[thorny flame]

i mean classically, that was always the meme though

[fallen epoch]

Cleeeeaaan

[thorny flame]

you were paying for PSA's discount on barrels, and not using their bcg

[thin cypress]

Me like OGL it güd

[echo cairn]

Meh