#general-chat

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smoky grotto
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Bsg deserves to have their game die

thin spoke
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it's like being castrated lol

magic smelt
thorn dew
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I remember seeing skidmark for the first time on stage at whatever event he was attending

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Dude is freaky big and you really don't notice it on his stream

nimble marten
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I swear people that load into Scav Matches to kill scavs make no sense

thorn dew
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He's on that liver king treatment

drowsy mica
peak grail
smoky grotto
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Why are you defending such a greedy company

thorn dew
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If you wanna talk about the drastic change of a tarkov content creator look at ChickenPrism

peak grail
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this was simply them overstepping on what they should've tried to monetize, and they should've (hopefully) learned their lesson with the community they have (and may be losing as a result)

thorn dew
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I used to love his content now dude just streams himself gambling smoking down cigs for less than 50 viewers

magic smelt
haughty wigeon
drowsy mica
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why is it other peoples fault they put a game mode in the game

mellow dune
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As a community as a whole, we all said the same damn shit. You want more money? Make fuckin gun skins and monitize cosmetics. NOT PAY 2 WIN ADVANTAGES

woeful sierra
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How's chill-chat doing

smoky grotto
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You seem just a little mad

nimble marten
haughty wigeon
barren lance
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“It’s technically not a dlc so EOD don’t get it”

magic smelt
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its like you guys dont have friends in real life...so you gotta be apart of something i just cringe seeing it from the third person

thin spoke
clever sentinel
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How do I get to the coop for unheard?

hearty python
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That spam has stopped 😯

magic smelt
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So youre apart of something that Activley HURTS your interest

peak grail
dusk wharf
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can i refound the game if i got it by a gift code?

smoky grotto
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Bsg fucking sucks scamming their player base because they think they can get away with it

nimble marten
woeful sierra
thorn dew
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My interests are ensuring I get what I paid for it is not my fault that BSG cannot do that without having their pockets hurt

peak grail
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i will be DMing you a cat gif @woeful sierra

thorn dew
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This is again a situation they put themselves in nobody else

nimble marten
magic smelt
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Scam WHAT ?! you got what you wanted EARLY ACCESS TO a SINGLE PLAYER MODE, Now they are renting a million $$ worth of servers becuase some DOLT made them think we WANT PvE so0o0o bad , BRO WE scammed OURSELVES!

delicate cradle
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I'm really at the point of idgaf since bsg is gonna allow mod support for the pve later on and give it to eod (unless they lie once again)

barren lance
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Honestly what did we expect? Did any of y’all play contract wars? Shit was p2w to the max

trail geode
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no shot anyone is actually gonna play pve

thorn dew
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Where are you getting millions worth of servers? you just pull that out of nowhere?

magic smelt
trail geode
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who tf are you

magic smelt
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we need to go after the sellout streamers that made this happen and the fukn people banning the nea sayers

thin spoke
smoky grotto
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It’s not millions of dollars lol

trail geode
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idc about the drama i just think you're a loser if you play pve

delicate cradle
magic smelt
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were trying to figure out what we did here and the effects cause no one thinks they just rage and giggle like trolls

delicate cradle
thorn dew
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If BSG is struggling to get and pay for servers for their game then they should have thought about pitching and riding hard for Arena

barren lance
thorn dew
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Again BSGs financial situation and its mismanagement isn't our problem its theirs

modern lance
magic smelt
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This is REALLY bad, theres going to be a Million dollars worth of PvE servers collecting dust instead of NON prioity QUE memebers (eod after 6 months ) getting faster load times

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YOU JUST DOY SOYed yourselves

thorn dew
barren lance
thorn dew
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I really doubt BSG will fall at the knees and go under because of this

magic smelt
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Like how do you not understand supply and DEMAND

thorn dew
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They happily did more for Arena and that respectfully flopped

peak grail
jovial tusk
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guys what happened? why is everyone mad?

peak grail
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that's a dumb assumption to make on the community's part

thorn dew
sullen oriole
magic smelt
thorn dew
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There won't be any lawsuits

smoky grotto
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I doubt they are struggling financially their probably just greedy

thin spoke
barren lance
delicate cradle
magic smelt
thorn dew
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Nobody will litigate a case across different countries

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Thats very expensive and complicated for not very much gain

barren lance
peak grail
magic smelt
peak grail
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if i did well i'm dumb asf for assuming they're broke yesterday

thorn dew
trail geode
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The schizo guy is really funny

barren lance
# delicate cradle They are based in the uk

They don’t have anything based in russia? They’d be dumb not to. File bankruptcy with the UK branch and funnel everything to Russia and boom, every case is dead in the water

thorn dew
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Arena isn't doing the numbers BSG thought it would that is just the truth

thorn dew
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They expected it to be the next big thing and take off like wildfire, and it hasn't

thin spoke
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yapping medal

barren lance
gray shoal
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All bosses still guaranteed to spawn

peak grail
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i heard it came out sometime last year and i haven't heard ANYTHING about eft arena after that

thin spoke
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ADD A YAPPER ROLE ON THIS SERVER PLS

magic smelt
# peak grail link my discord message where i call them broke

im just seeing the truth , i was on the band wagon , then i downloaded SPT, after playing LIVE the night before i minimized it started SPT in the morning.. BANNED fucking BANNED 5.5k hrs BANNED becuase some streamer fails to mention you need to look out for a million JANK things in this TROJAN of a mod

gray shoal
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?events

barren lance
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I play arena daily, more than I play tarkov tbh

gray shoal
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!events

thorn dew
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Cool you playing it daily doesn't mean its a success

late magnet
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!events

magic smelt
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You cant run SPT launcer and Tarkov launcer apparently

delicate cradle
thorn dew
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The general sentiment from both communities is that the game flopped hard

magic smelt
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str8 launcher BAN

trail geode
peak grail
haughty wigeon
barren lance
late magnet
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anybody got a scav up with john b glasses? last item i need for kappa

smoky grotto
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Arena is definitely not a success

peak grail
fervent merlin
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Solution is simple: monetize the game by adding uniform skins, hideout themes etcc. just do not add dlcs. same matchmaking for everyone otherwise the standard owners are big screwed who has not enough time to play or pay the huge amount of money for PvE.

thorn dew
hearty python
haughty wigeon
peak grail
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they explicitly say make a copy of the game, then install server and play, but make sure BSG launcher or EFT live isn't running at the same time

thorn dew
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The only thing you need to do is download the game on a seperate folder

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If you follow the mind numbindly simple instructions correctly and there isn't a chance you get banned at all

magic smelt
# peak grail calling SPT a trojan is funny lol

if not a trojan its like 4 misclicks from getting BANNED , Why would you have two common EXE even like they could of had it be in adiffrent folder way far away. or have a Notice come up that says "before you hit start make sure your LIVE launcher is not running ...are you sure"

trail geode
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User error dumbass

fervent merlin
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If they consider PvE to be whole different game then, the PvE progression should not affect the main game development. its easy but they want to make it complicated.

haughty wigeon
magic smelt
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And yes the SPt devs are not to be praised they are fucking source crackers , and plagarist if youre not a layman

sturdy marlin
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Anyone knows when eod is getting access to pve ?

magic smelt
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The way they GOT it was through a trojan in an update

haughty wigeon
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No, lol.

thorn dew
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Where are the SPT devs plagarizing?

magic smelt
thorn dew
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They aren't claiming that they made tarkov

haughty wigeon
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Dude is just yapping because he cheated and got banned most likely, lol.

fervent merlin
delicate cradle
smoky grotto
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Why do you hate palword so much

peak grail
thorn dew
magic smelt
peak grail
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they basically did it all from scratch, not by plagarizing or stealing anything from BSG

magic smelt
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adorable

haughty wigeon
languid matrix
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Hello guys

sturdy marlin
languid matrix
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My name is Matt

barren lance
peak grail
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hi matt

limber saffron
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smgs

delicate cradle
fervent merlin
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Steal game concepts only count when they used code of the orginal game. The law states that

magic smelt
sturdy marlin
magic smelt
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this isnt exactly the newbie zone i dont buy it , Asmongold tourist detected

peak grail
trail geode
sturdy marlin
velvet plover
peak grail
thin spoke
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pls give machine face a yapper role

magic smelt
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i have to emphasize the points you find most contentious or else it will just drown out due to your cognitive dissonance .

smoky grotto
thin spoke
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yap yap

thorn dew
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Yeah I mean this isn't the first person I've seen type poorly worded rants about something

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This is like exactly on par for what to expect

magic smelt
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im dumb ME the guy who DIDNT ask for PvE servers in a HARD CORE fucking Multiplayer SHOOTER

languid matrix
delicate cradle
thorn dew
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Nobody asked BSG to make a PvE gamemode

trail geode
bright horizon
velvet plover
thorn dew
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People are upset that content and exclusive gamemodes aren't being offered to people that have paid exactly to have all of that included

covert cosmos
gray shoal
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@velvet plover yo is guaranteed bosses still going?

languid matrix
delicate cradle
velvet plover
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??eventt

tawdry thunder
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SINCE 2016

velvet plover
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??event

wind gobletBOT
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Currently all bosses have a 100% spawn chance.

velvet plover
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guess so

gray shoal
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Thanks

languid matrix
sturdy marlin
tawdry thunder
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is it really 100% still?

velvet plover
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im drinking tea

sturdy marlin
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are u the one choosing the play style of every player?

velvet plover
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and watching that baby reindeer

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i'm in no rush

magic smelt
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just a tad, when i literally see millions of dollars go the wayward because of god damn "boycotters " that have a steam library full of garbage since 2018 but want to call them selves "true belivers" just because of the argument " i was there when you needed me man "

peak grail
thorn dew
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Again where you getting millions from

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Also why is this anyones fault but BSGs

spare cave
magic smelt
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Just FLUSH down the drain Current PVP server cost 40 million a year

wind gobletBOT
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There are currently no known running events.

smoky grotto
thorn dew
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I do not think BSG pays anywhere near 40 million a year for anything

magic smelt
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PvE seems to be in equal demand i mean LOOK AT ALL THIS DRAMA

spare cave
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there is an event btw but the bot doesnt show it

trail geode
sturdy marlin
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Anyone knows when eod is getting access to pve????

trail geode
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Tomorrow

thorn dew
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Actually you can check their annual spending records so you find that and let me know what their annual expenses are

nimble marten
tawdry thunder
spare cave
unreal glacier
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why tarkov p2w now

magic smelt
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oh wait...its NOT You guys are gonna look dumb then get drummed up to go after " sell out streamers " next

spare cave
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💀

delicate cradle
magic smelt
# unreal glacier why tarkov p2w now

I hate you so much, It was pay to win when they made the cell sizes smaller and GAMMA to EOD with STash size ( 14 million roubles early wipe )

tawdry thunder
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it wont matter if the people cant get matches.

velvet plover
wild harness
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how is streets on colombia servers, is it full of people rushing kaban

magic smelt
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Even fucking Pirate software could read the website description and say " This gamma case thing...yeah thats pay to win "

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and he never played a game IN HIS LIFE and its reads as pay to win.

echo trench
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What’s up with pve matching taking ages “NA”

tawdry thunder
trail geode
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pve player FeelsClownMan

thorn dew
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I heard the PvE mode really just hasn't been working well since it came out

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Chances are typical BSG shenanigans and it just doesn't work too well atm

nocturne vortex
magic smelt
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But youre gonna cry about a RADIO??! do you have a mirror to tell yourself you cant formulate an opinion yourself. The pay to win ness from Standard to Eod is eons ahead of orange to blue

frigid oriole
thorn dew
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Wouldn't the standard to UHE p2w gap be even more exaggerated then???

magic smelt
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AHAHA we got another one! Do you have it cause i do

sturdy marlin
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this Machine guy is on some hard fucking drugs

velvet plover
modern lance
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p2w this p2w that.. anyone seen sunlight today? 🙂

thorn dew
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I mean if EoD is p2w then what is a game version that is better and more packed with features? Less p2w??

magic smelt
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the radio JUST bringing it into raid you lose .5 scav rep

smoky grotto
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I think machine was dropped on his head as a baby

delicate cradle
tawdry thunder
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yeah someone explain the radio and rep. because i brought it in and lost .05 rep. i was so close to 6 lol

prime dove
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s/o BSG for scamming community and not even saying sorry

magic smelt
west minnow
prime dove
magic smelt
frigid oriole
west minnow
delicate cradle
magic smelt
hearty python
frigid oriole
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uod gives you pockets that are not unlockable, and the broken radio

nimble marten
frigid oriole
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theres no comparison between the two editions

west minnow
thorn dew
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I dont think anyone wanted EoD to be p2w but people most definitely do not want some outlandish p2w edition from EAs home planet

drowsy mica
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the radio sucks ngl bruh

merry dust
nimble marten
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Lmaoooo!

tawdry thunder
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ban that man

frigid oriole
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yes they are, but one's p2w is nowhere close to the others

magic smelt
nimble marten
thorn dew
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What they introduced for UHE is just straight up unacceptable even if EoD is p2w

west minnow
frigid oriole
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again, eod stuff you can unlock better alternatives for, uod you just can't, period

thorn dew
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That has no place being in the game and people are rightfully upset at it

red night
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Anyone want to play coop? Its really fun

sterile root
tawdry thunder
magic smelt
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You just have "abandonment tradgedy disorder " if you link EoD with not getting EARLY access to a said broken EARLY access single player mode in a HC multiplayer shooter

frigid oriole
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game that's been in early access for what, 7 or 8 years?

delicate cradle
thorn dew
prime dove
magic smelt
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you just cant handle the idea that your promise MIGHT be broken ( it wasnt the deal was always you get DLC when its done AFTER release )

thorn dew
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My main issue with the UHE really was them not honoring the EoD edition

sturdy marlin
nimble marten
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I think it's funny reading everything this man has to say. Games evolve and do different things, your voice cannot change what they do. So suck it up and play or just stop playing.

thorn dew
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The p2w parts of UHE suck and are easily fixed

peak grail
sterile root
tawdry thunder
sterile root
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Imo that's more p2w

woeful sierra
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I felt the foul stench of spam

peak grail
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idgaf if there's a higher version of the game that gives weapon case, etc but gamemodes shouldn't really be locked behind that paywall tbh

frigid oriole
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oh i know about scam shitizen

magic smelt
trail geode
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euthanise the spammers

prime dove
craggy tide
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@swift latch why is some of your name white, how have you done that

tawdry thunder
thorn dew
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I didn't like that the "EoD exclusive" gamma container was suddenly made not exclusive and that EoD wasn't getting this new gamemode despite Nikita and the website for years saying that EoD is entitled to all future content and DLC

peak grail
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the distress mark thing is such a goofy feature, it probably wont even be out anytime remotely soon either

smoky grotto
frigid oriole
craggy tide
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DUDE A CAT CAME UP TO ME AND LIKE RUBBED ON MY LEG AND WAS PURRING AND SHIT

peak grail
magic smelt
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d-2 you must have braint rot if you log in here for this , i have something to say and understand perspective from the epicenter of the movement and then put it in my aarticle

craggy tide
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Never have I felt more happy in life.

weary wraith
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i can't remember, was gamma even obtainable via questing or was it solely eod

frigid oriole
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cant say that about eod shit outside of hatchet, which isnt the best melee weapon anyway

sterile root
# thorn dew I didn't like that the "EoD exclusive" gamma container was suddenly made not exc...

That's fair, but personally I expect to gain companies to be constantly needing more money, so I expected they would eventually release a new version. And there's no reason for people to upgrade if they don't add something.
Single player means nothing for me, so I don't care much about it. And the fact that you can get pretty much the same experience with some mods kind of diminishes the argument in my opinion

sturdy marlin
thorn dew
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BSG took their most loyal customers and supporters and told them off

craggy tide
trail geode
tiny venture
peak grail
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i would be devastated

craggy tide
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Atleast the car is safe now

magic smelt
nimble marten
craggy tide
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Better to be in a home than on the street

thorn dew
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No I was plenty upset at what the UHE was offering

trail geode
spare cave
magic smelt
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BSG on paper has actually been better to its base than CoD who literally sells you the same engine for 10+years

smoky grotto
spare cave
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💀

trail geode
peak grail
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if anything most streamers are standing with the community to avoid loss of viewership 💀

spare cave
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this guy man

tawdry thunder
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people upset that unheard of gets gamma, make no sense. like did you want them to get kappa instead?

craggy tide
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BSG told people this was gonna happen, but fucking over EOD was a bit uncslled for

winged stone
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fraud ❌ tricked by streamer ✅

thorn dew
placid yew
peak grail
craggy tide
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Just so everyone knows, LVNDMARK and pestily etc are farming money off this

trail geode
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shocker

sturdy marlin
tawdry thunder
tiny venture
thorn dew
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I am all for BSG having the UHE I just think they should have had the interests of their most loyal customers in mind first

craggy tide
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They all knew about this lol

trail geode
peak grail
magic smelt
placid yew
peak grail
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just reacting to the guy saying we're all just following streamers' words

craggy tide
tiny venture
thorn dew
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They absolutely could have used this game edition to give players that missed out on EoD some of the in game benefits of it

craggy tide
thorn dew
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Instead they decided for whatever reason to top the EoD edition by packing it full of stupid features that dont belong

trail geode
nimble marten
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Hey Mods how hard would it be to make an Arguments/Debate Channel so we can get this out of General?

tawdry thunder
craggy tide
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Chat I just had some of the most bomb tacos of my life

peak grail
tiny venture
craggy tide
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I'm not a white people taco liker but holy shit I fucking loved those

nimble marten
smoky grotto
peak grail
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im just happy gen chat and LFG aren't just being straight spammed still

craggy tide
tawny wadi
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oof what, chats are back ?

peak grail
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and arguing is technically a general chat i think

magic smelt
tiny venture
craggy tide
# placid yew Proof?

I'll give you some, why do you think pestily starts his subathons right around wipe? Usec 3 VA confirmed they get told this shit too

trail geode
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mods ill unironically pay 250 to ban this moron

smoky grotto
magic smelt
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You have EOD for 6 years you deserve a better EoD , being there early doesnt matter i bet more than half of you got the shit AFTER they announced Stash space

peak grail
craggy tide
placid yew
magic smelt
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The "we were there first " sentiment is just a greedy thing said by those who werent actually there

sterile root
thorn dew
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Its not about people wanting to be the favorite its about them getting what they paid for and BSG not shifting the goalposts

placid yew
craggy tide
placid yew
tawdry thunder
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the amount of time people are spending bitching about this, you could have went out and made the money to afford the new edition.

thorn dew
craggy tide
peak grail
magic smelt
sterile root
smoky grotto
craggy tide
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Anyway what games is everyone swapping to for now?

tawdry thunder
winter hill
peak grail
magic smelt
smoky grotto
sturdy marlin
thorn dew
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I dunno the notion that a new gamemode isn't DLC is really crazy to me

placid yew
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Dayz ftw and tarkov when wipe :P idc

cerulean girder
frigid oriole
# magic smelt it may feel like that but you were tricked by streamers to thinking that

alright, let's see what BSG did that pissed me the fuck off:

  1. added straight up P2W mechanic that is not unlockable otherwise - pockets
  2. retroactively made the EOD Gamma container not unique anymore (edited their websites, illegal in most countries)
  3. released UHE after telling us EOD is the last purchasable edition before full release
  4. added an inherently broken radio that let you call in your friends during an ongoing raid, then backtracked to a yet another broken mechanic at the cost of .05 scav rep, which is also P2W and makes PMCs not equal to eachother in raid
  5. EOD was supposed to get ALL future DLC for free, not at a discount. Money itself is not a problem, I'd happily pay that kind of money otherwise. The broken promises are the problem.
peak grail
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I'm happy to buy the version if it isn't just a slap in the face, for example. I just won't because it's dumb that EOD wasn't getting their DLC

sterile root
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I feel like you should take a game developer's promise of future content with a massive load of salt.
If you bought EOD with the expectation of anything more than the game itself at that point, I feel you were just sitting yourself up for disappointment.

smoky grotto
tawdry thunder
peak grail
magic smelt
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No one is switching bro they have no where to go. We arent streamers who have 9million hours m were not burnt out and usuing you lemmings in a fake boycott to quit amicably from the tarkov scene.

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We actually play the fgame

sterile root
harsh topaz
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BRO they want to keep the new edition, just greedy persons

cerulean girder
cosmic vector
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why does it take so long to load into a raid in the PVE mode?

smoky grotto
peak grail
magic smelt
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whyare you playing it ? just our of opposition defiance or are you handicapped? if youre handicapped im sorry

peak grail
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(assuming they're using the same infrastructure for both modes, which is likely since PvE is just an add-on and not the main focus of the game yet)

craggy tide
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Me personally I'm playing a mix of ULTRAKILL and siege, I did play KinitoPET last night tho

magic smelt
delicate cradle
frigid oriole
cerulean girder
magic smelt
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with all of your accounts insdide of it

peak grail
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or rather didn't allow as many instances to run in PvE mode

magic smelt
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longer que times mean your waiting for someone else to finish

harsh topaz
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fr quitting tarkov and not looking back. Just shit show from a greedy company ... sad but true

sturdy marlin
magic smelt
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How many raids you think run on one $5000 box?

peak grail
magic smelt
peak grail
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or even if they're using scalable services like AWS to host raids

harsh topaz
# smoky grotto True

yeah why should i spend more money. Mark my words if the game survive this, and it will some people are still playing (which is sad). It 100% again a hihgher edition and this edition will have the same problem. There trying to milk the cow because some people playing with the same eiditon 8 years. Instead of bringing cosmetic or something ...

sturdy marlin
hearty python
peak grail
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honestly PvE really SHOULD be P2P with authorization/progress management running on servers

hearty python
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Mommy said it's my turn
vibes

magic smelt
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Maybe its not working because your favorite streamers Hutch and LUPO is encouraging HACKERS to kill people on PvE servers

upper rover
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Hey bsg I just want you to know fuck tarkov

magic smelt
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are* encouraging

harsh topaz
frigid oriole
stark badge
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fACOTRY Q 40 SEC CUSTOM Q IS 15 MIN o.O PVE ZONE WTF GOING ON WITH SERVERS

frigid oriole
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bsg finally gets what they deserve for ignoring hackers and trying to screw supporters

placid yew
shy tendon
smoky grotto
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You mean a good game

harsh topaz
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bro ngl. this game isn t a tripple a title. I dont get it why people spend 100+ on one game like this ..

delicate cradle
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THIS ^

vapid path
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Who wants to team my teammate is a bitch

shy tendon
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Shitters paying 250 to not run into pmcs and get a blue name, actual cucks

magic smelt
# frigid oriole thats some good shit though <:eft_PrapKEK:804741278092492860>

found the salty waller ...you know what come to think of it ever since i bought the BLUE and got Priority que ...ive had amazing raids and FAST loading times. i only die to BLUE names and it seems legit...i think theres a connection with Emotional reddit boycotters and hacking....hmmmm its probably THE SAME PEOPLE!

harsh topaz
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true

craggy tide
wintry briar
static epoch
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@shrewd steeple

harsh topaz
#

which dick head got the idea : yeah if ur 6 lvl abouth the bots then there not targeting u

craggy tide
peak grail
craggy tide
#

Based Nikita, I do too.

frigid oriole
smoky grotto
trail geode
harsh topaz
craggy tide
peak grail
#

WE WON HE GOT MUTED LOOL

harsh topaz
craggy tide
#

I got a 3rd chin bro

trail geode
#

@magic smelt enjoy the new role :)

wintry briar
peak grail
#

im sad my content creator MachineFace133 got muted sadge

winter hill
#

I mean what about Call of duty MW3 it’s basically a $70 DLC of MW2 lol

craggy tide
trail geode
smoky grotto
harsh topaz
craggy tide
#

Why'd he get muted lol

trail geode
#

general shitfuckery

harsh topaz
craggy tide
#

Nice, average person getting muted then lol

wintry briar
peak grail
craggy tide
#

"oh blyat, send retired KGB to his house"

harsh topaz
harsh topaz
craggy tide
#

"because they cant handle me bro im too much testosterone" is what machine face just messaged me 💀 I replied absolute sigma unit 💀💀

wintry briar
#

At this point are they a studio or a Ponzi scheme?

coarse yarrow
#

yo i cant send to any relevant channels cause this server sucks, but i completely followed the guidelines for the gunsmith part 14 but my gun is 0.012kg over

frigid oriole
craggy tide
#

Why would I not share it

#

Shit made me giggle a little

harsh topaz
tiny venture
#

whatd they say

tender chasm
smoky grotto
craggy tide
#

Hot take, games should be 40 dollars MAXIMUM.

tiny venture
#

kanye pfp, ngmi

harsh topaz
craggy tide
harsh topaz
tender chasm
tiny venture
#

lmao i like your style

craggy tide
#

Indie games such as Project zomboid, ultrakill, I'd go as far to say fucking helldivers 2, are all under 40 dollars, and all worth all of those precious cents.

wintry briar
winter hill
#

Project Zomboid is underrated that’s a good ass game

harsh topaz
#

are way better for the price tag ngl.

craggy tide
jovial tusk
#

new penguin0 vid 🔥

frigid oriole
#

the problem is that tarkov has a monopoly in a pretty big niche

craggy tide
#

That was a mess and got repaired, it gets frequent updates now.

frigid oriole
#

which is a realistic fps with realistic gun/gear modding

craggy tide
haughty wigeon
craggy tide
haughty wigeon
craggy tide
#

There are games that deserve a bigger price tag, but I'm poor and want cheap games.

haughty wigeon
#

And they had WAY smaller dev teams

frigid oriole
wintry briar
craggy tide
#

Tbf gaming was really niche in the 90s no? It was all arcades or really early consoles no? I wasn't alive. back then.

frigid oriole
#

old games were mostly singleplayer, involved much fewer man-hours, and were a one and done

winter hill
#

They make it to where you can buy the Kappa container sorry boiz imma cop that lol

wintry briar
#

Buckshot roulette is being sold for 3 euro and theyve made about 1 million sales

haughty wigeon
frigid oriole
#

right now games are an ongoing commitment with online services, servers, all of those have an OPEX attached

wintry briar
#

Easy 3 million for a game that has a decent gameloop and its entertaining enough to be called a good game

median fox
#

What would I have to upgrade to for it to be worth while from standard ED?

craggy tide
#

I don't even pay for Spotify premium, never mind big games like red dead 2

haughty wigeon
frigid oriole
#

which forces companies to either have the prices skyhigh, use subscription model, or utilize microtransactions

craggy tide
#

Spotify premium is so easy to crack it's crazy

winter hill
#

Ngl I miss the midnight releases of games that shit was so much fun back in the day

trail geode
#

^

modest isle
#

Is there a new quest line? I remember Debut being Prapors first quest but now theres another instead at Ground Zero??????

craggy tide
#

MTX was the downfall of Eft, they saw how much they made and realised what they could charge

wintry briar
peak grail
wintry briar
#

its about 36 euro after getting left behind

thorn dew
#

I hate how lazy the MTX is

haughty wigeon
craggy tide
thorn dew
#

and people are still buying it

median fox
haughty wigeon
thin spoke
#

is arena a remake of contract wars?

wintry briar
thorn dew
#

Im totally fine with BSG selling cosmetics but make the cosmetics cool and something worth buying

craggy tide
#

Prepare for escape

winter hill
modest isle
craggy tide
#

Beta container is quite shit but it's better than alpha

thorn dew
#

Like uniroinically if they released these clothing sets for like $5 I wouldn't be mad at all

wintry briar
median fox
frigid oriole
peak grail
craggy tide
#

EOD has always been pay to win, but never significantly.

median fox
peak grail
#

Also i THINK if you hit level 20 all the GZ quests disappear and the normal progression starts

steep steppe
#

Still waiting for the full interview

craggy tide
#

Gamma is the only "p2w" part of it.

modest isle
peak grail
#

but it's very unlikely you get there before doing those quests

thorn dew
#

Yeah ideally I'd prefer if EoD wasn't but thats just not how it is

peak grail
modest isle
#

ok thanks

frigid oriole
peak grail
#

like after Tarkov shooter part 1, you get part 2 and 3 at the same time.

frigid oriole
#

now the quests dont fail, you just enter the big boy version of GZ

haughty wigeon
#

I always feel so broke after I buy a new thicc case. :&

frigid oriole
#

which last i heard from streamers was going to be a PVP hellhole between factory and customs

thorn dew
haughty wigeon
#

Doesnt matter how many million roubles I sit on, when you put that money towards a thicc it just feels like you lost alot, haha

frigid oriole
#

due to how small and cramped the map is

fiery lance
#

You guys ever think about how fat Nikita is

frigid oriole
#

hate the man, not the number on his scale

wintry briar
# median fox Ah okay and what does the container do?

It's a 2x3 special container slot where you can store stuff which is guaranteed to remain on you even after death. The usual one is 2x2 so the beta container (2x3) is something in the middle, you used to be able to purchase EoD edition before which grants you a 3x3 container but that was discontinued recently so now the only way to acquire a 3x3 container is by purchasing their newest edition which I wouldnt recommend

mellow escarp
#

Is the event still going on for the cultist and bosses?

craggy tide
#

Tbf that shit hits like fent

wintry briar
#

If you are just getting into tarkov and you are unsure if you wanna play then Id suggest going for the standard and from then on you can decide whether youd be willing to play the game consistently and upgrade your edition

wintry briar
#

Boy if you see the salaries they get

median fox
#

No thanks

wintry briar
#

This really becomes a genuine thing rn its hilarious

gray shoal
#

??events

wind gobletBOT
#

There are currently no known running events.

wintry briar
#

I mean Ive never encountered a cheater yet but I only have about 200 or so hours

gray shoal
#

No more guaranteed bosses?

wintry briar
frigid oriole
spare cave
wintry briar
frigid oriole
#

dude 1tapped me on customs using a HMG in fortress... at first i didnt realize, but then the angle looked odd - they 1tapped me through the shacks in front of crackhouse, with no line of sight

#

and yeah, 2 days later i got the msg they got banned

median fox
wintry briar
#

I might have honestly but I have no idea but its not like its a special case however bsg really isnt able to afford a better anticheat

feral lily
#

]\

wintry briar
#

Or maybe they could have but not anymore, def not now

peak grail
peak grail
#

there is no such thing as an "effective" anti cheat right now

wintry briar
frigid oriole
#

nikita literally said they arent focusing on cheaters because its free money from them rebuying the game

sharp scarab
#

How come beginner chat and beginner assistance is closed?

wintry briar
#

Im sure there is some anticheat that markets itself as better than battleeye on the market but cheaters will always be ahead of the anticheat

spare cave
noble bane
#

It's an example of giving up your privacy for security. Don't install root kits to your pc

wintry briar
#

Yeah but the issue with valorant guard or whatever is that it's extremely aggressive and it invades your entire system in order to see everything that is going on

trail geode
#

fuck it you have no privacy anyway

noble bane
#

Yes I do

wintry briar
noble bane
#

If you give your liberty away for security you deserve neither

trail geode
#

nerd emoji

torpid ether
#

CF-RAY: 87ba9a419ec61136-ORD bro wtf does this mean

trail geode
#

look it up moron

next temple
#

is tarkov still coming to console?

noble bane
#

Or you can sack up and get better. I rarely run into cheaters

#

Well they don't kill me so idgaf. They can closet cheat

spare cave
#

shut up

latent rampart
#

i got scammed

sterile root
#

Yo mods, can you delete the spammers slower so that I have time to block them first?

noble bane
#

Bro I got 3 gpus in a row on gz with no issues

autumn hedge
sterile root
#

I pulled two GPUs out of the van outside of usec once

noble bane
#

Lol because the loot is goated

#

If you aren't on gz you're messing up

spare cave
#

definitely not guaranteed. i went to kill shturman with my squad
5/5 times we killed him, however we did meet a cheater who chased us to extract with a GL ONCE
also went to cultist hunt in like 15 raids, only met some gigachads no cheaters (even when fort was with cultist+reshala)

  • how would you even know if they dont kill you
noble bane
#

Y'all are sad cry babies.

trail geode
#

^

#

take accountability shitter

noble bane
#

You're a sad pathetic cry baby

keen frigate
#

does anyone know if you upgrade do you lose the eod stuff or do you keep it ?

noble bane
#

Meet me in factory

spare cave
trail geode
#

enjoy your mute :)

median fox
#

Yall keyboard warriors. End of. Ugh 😤

sly pewter
#

lol

keen frigate
spare cave
#

right

noble bane
#

Bruh just buy it. Who cares

velvet plover
median fox
#

Let’s go

trail geode
#

you're my favorite british person

spare cave
velvet plover
#

wow

#

even i'm not my favourite british person

trail geode
#

actually you might be 2nd

spare cave
haughty wigeon
#

Hmm, should I stay up 7h30min so I can make my phone call or should I go to bed now?

trail geode
velvet plover
#

i don't drink lady drinks

spare cave
#

💀💀💀

velvet plover
#

i live on whiskey

spare cave
#

this geezer said ale is lady drink

velvet plover
trail geode
#

orange juice >

#

good point

graceful thorn
#

are bosses 100% spawn rate rn?

velvet plover
graceful thorn
#

then where tf is gluey

spare cave
little sleet
#

I saw something online that said Tarkov players are really conservative is this true? (actual question)

graceful thorn
#

😦 hes hiding

spare cave
spare cave
sterile root
# velvet plover ban*

Are y'all going to retroactively ban all the spammers or just the ones going forward?

wintry briar
velvet plover
daring grove
#

Anyone else not able to use xsolla?

spare cave
velvet plover
wintry briar
trail geode
noble bane
velvet plover
#

a fruity brandy

red geyser
#

Anyone got tips for cleaning your helmet 🪖

tawdry thunder
#

which one of you jerks got me banned off stankrats discord just now

spare cave
daring grove
velvet plover
#

see i know

#

my ex is romanian

#

she lived on it

spare cave
red geyser
spare cave
#

as a hungarian... (who dont want to get banned i am not continuing)

noble bane
velvet plover
#

its an ex

#

i couldnt care

noble bane
#

Best map by far

velvet plover
#

anyway its 12am

#

i got work at 6

#

ping someone else if there's issues

spare cave
velvet plover
#

preferably @languid matrix

languid matrix
#

Fuck off mate

#

I’m gonna bed

trail geode
#

eeper

wintry briar
noble bane
#

Are you playing it over lvl 20

daring grove
heady sand
noble bane
#

I got 3 gpus in 3 days no issues with hackers chasing me down. I feel like the hacker boogie man is a myth on them all magically seeing your entire inventory. Just stuff it in your butt

austere sky
#

Go to streets and the myth will become real @noble bane

daring grove
zinc lark
#

i fucked up and got the 100 dollar version

#

what is bsg gonna do now?

narrow leaf
#

this is wild

wide ingot
#

is event running still

#

??event

wind gobletBOT
#

Currently all bosses have a 100% spawn chance.

nocturne vortex
#

tagilla has a 0% chance

noble bane
#

Streets was ezpz

nocturne vortex
#

how many raids do u have

haughty wigeon
#

doesnt sound like many, lol

noble bane
#

Idk alot

haughty wigeon
#

I had 3 100% hackers this friday alone, haha 😄

#

On servers that are usually just filled with timmies

noble bane
#

I run two accounts. One regular one hardcore

#

I mostly play during the work day while I'm wfh

frozen rivet
heady sand
#

eft_huh It's shit like this why companies are pushing to remove wfh

noble bane
#

I'm salary running RFP for a large it reseller. They make bank off what I do

#

I save them millions

heady sand
#

Yeah but if they find out, they gonna remove wfh for your whole company

noble bane
#

How they gonna know?

heady sand
#

cuz you posting it in social media idk

trail geode
#

dimwit

noble bane
#

You think I'm tied to my actual identity? Bruh

nocturne vortex
heady sand
#

You know what? its actually not my business, carry on

heady sand
nocturne vortex
#

hellos

#

rest in peace tarkov 😔

trail geode
#

where were you when tarkov was kill

smoky trench
#

So what, I guess we're gunna have to wait a year for pve mode now cause servers are full 🤣💀 what a joke.

trail geode
#

pve is for losers ngl

nocturne vortex
#

play stalker or forbidden tarkov

heady sand
#

I am playing helldivers 2

nocturne vortex
#

stinky game

covert ingot
smoky trench
nocturne vortex
#

i am playing stare at my computer screen simulator doing nothing

trail geode
#

but like you can just spend an hour in offline and you're good :)

nocturne vortex
smoky trench
#

Offline is shit cause nothing saves to offline mode.

nocturne vortex
#

but you dont need it to if youre just learning maps

covert ingot
#

^

trail geode
heady sand
#

I really dont care much about pve mode; cuz AI in Tarkov is pretty ass

trail geode
#

yeah its just boring

heady sand
#

I just care about the idiotic items

nocturne vortex
#

the ai is horrible

smoky grotto
#

i just think people complain to complain, i just found out arena was its own seperate thing… even had its own launcher and people complained to get it for free lmao. I still think bsg off the fent for this content push though

nocturne vortex
#

i have been 1 tapped from 60 meters from completely silent scavs with shotguns today 3 times

nocturne vortex
#

it was given to eod people from the start

trail geode
#

^

smoky grotto
#

yes to have it

nocturne vortex
#

it was given to eod players first....

smoky grotto
#

id have to see where it says exclusive to eod players

nocturne vortex
#

its a dlc

smoky grotto
#

… yes but people could also buy it but eod cried because they couldnt get at it first when they were pushing people in waves. so community cried, no?

craggy tide
#

How do I utilise my autism better

#

Why are other people good at math and i just like ultrakill

nocturne vortex
#

😭

trail geode
#

circular yapper

smoky grotto
#

community complained about arena and eod owners not getting into first, people complain to complain. people feel privileged

heady sand
lean verge
#

Since 2016, players have supported the developers by purchasing the highest edition of the game. For 8 years, we've been recommending this game to friends, bringing more and more players into the community. And what was the developers' response? They've blown us off, refuse to comment, and only encourage those who have lost all respect for themselves and continue to pour money in. I personally had high hopes for Tarkov. In my eyes, it was a high-quality and most ambitious product on the entire market. This is unacceptable. This is selfish. This is disrespectful. You've disgraced yourselves completely. You've lost loyal players, you've betrayed the idea. It's disgusting. To everyone who feels the same way - don't be silent. Spam, make memes, spread the word wherever it's relevant. This cannot be tolerated. Since 2016, players have supported the developers by purchasing the highest edition of the game. For 8 years, we've been recommending this game to friends, bringing more and more players into the community. And what was the developers' response? They've blown us off, refuse to comm Since 2016, players have supported the developers by purchasing the highest edition of the game. For 8 years, we've been recommending this game to friends, bringing more and more players into the community. And what was the developers' response? They've blown us off, refuse to comment, and only encourage those who have lost all respect for themselves and continue to pour money in. I personally had high hopes for Tarkov. In my eyes, it was a high-quality and most ambitious product on the entire market. This is unacceptable. This is selfish. This is disrespectful. You've disgraced yourselves completely. You've lost loyal players, you've betrayed the idea. It's disgusting. To everyone who feels the same way - don't be silent. Spam, make memes, spread the word wherever it's relevant. This cannot be tolerated.

trail geode
smoky grotto
nocturne vortex
#

the only people who got arena free was the people who were getting it free before 😭

heady sand
#

People were complaining that, people buying arena standalone were getting access first before EoD

smoky grotto
#

cried because they couldnt be the first

bronze loom
#

gimme my house back

old epoch
lone plume
#

@swift latch give my house back, my sanctum. my love

trail geode
#

kwondale dingle

lone plume
#

Lets retaliate not because of uheard edition but the closing off beginners chat

heady sand
#

I dont really give a damn about arena... played a bit of it, its okay

But its very barebones. They really should have just finished EFT before hopping onto a sideproject like this

smoky grotto
heady sand
#

Now instead of a fully cooked product, we have 2 undercooked products

#

and with pve, we now have 3 undercooked products; AI is still shit kekw

old epoch
nocturne vortex
trail geode
#

arena players are just corner sitters

nocturne vortex
#

^

heady sand
bronze loom
#

imo replace arena by just 12.9

nocturne vortex
#

yeah

#

and add custom kits

heady sand
#

It was unintended that people buying it were getting access first

nocturne vortex
#

yeah

heady sand
#

So the bitching was warranted

bronze loom
lone plume
#

Stop the consipiracy theorys

winged stone
#

put me in charge and let me make Tarkov CSGO

heady sand
#

Still, arena is pretty ass... the counter strike experience for 35$?

nocturne vortex
#

its not even like csgo

heady sand
#

and you cant even change your loadout after a round

winged stone
#

its csgo deathmatch

heady sand
#

yer stuck with the loadout...getting hard countered? well gg, yer stuck with yer loadout

winged stone
#

imagine actual csgo tarkov

#

maybe it would be shit, but high chance of being better than current arena

lone plume
#

cab we open beginners chat

buoyant flint
heady sand
#

I just dont think that the way Tarkov dynamic works is designed for that kind of gameplay

heady sand
old epoch
bronze loom
#

😼

heady sand
#

you could just set up loadouts like people did on call of duty black ops...damn I miss black ops 2 and 3

winged stone
heady sand
#

I was a dirty shield player

winged stone
lone plume
#

Since 2016 i think beginners chat existed wasnt there i have done nothing, a dagger in my back to close beginners chat,. open taht bsg ty

bronze loom
#

i wish the pump shotguns in tarkov were like the rust pump slug

smoky grotto
heady sand
winged stone
#

well csgo is fire

nocturne vortex
winged stone
#

cs2 not so much, but csgo fire af

bronze loom
winged stone
nocturne vortex
#

pump

heady sand
#

I wish y'all also played helldivers 2 so we could meme

bronze loom
old epoch
#

shotguns are not shit attt alll

nocturne vortex
#

i dont like helldivers 2

heady sand
#

ah my 500kg bomb was cancelled damn it

smoky grotto
old epoch
#

smile is best tier 2 class prove me wrong

winged stone
#

so many cheaters and it feels like shit

nocturne vortex
#

aint no way i just got in trouble for eating lunch 💀

old epoch
smoky grotto
chilly cradle
#

Since 2016, devs have supported the players by selling the highest edition of the game. For 8 years, we've been recommending this game to friends, bringing more and more devs into the community. And what was the players' response? They've blown up the discord, spam dumb "since 2016" copypastas, and only encourage those who have lost all respect for themselves and stopped giving us (the devs) money. I personally had high hopes for Tarkov. In my eyes, it was a high-quality and most ambitious product on the entire market of free untiy assets. This is unacceptable. This is selfish. This is disrespectful. You've disgraced yourselves completely. You've lost loyal devs, you've betrayed the idea. It's disgusting. To everyone who feels the same way - don't be silent. Spam, make memes, spread the word wherever it's relevant. This cannot be tolerated, FUCK THE PLAYERS!!!!

muted flare
#

helldivers looks good af

bronze loom
#

skibidi toilet

nocturne vortex
winged stone
nocturne vortex
old epoch
#

lol

smoky grotto
nocturne vortex
#

it wasnt

winged stone
#

i mean if its some super smelly af shit ig

smoky grotto
#

if it was, deserved honestly

nocturne vortex
#

it was 4 chicken nuggets 😭

smoky grotto
#

riot

winged stone
#

but like, in most cases aint nobody having a say in what the fuck u eating

old epoch
#

its unamerican to order only 4 mcnuggies

bronze loom
#

how do i play the alpha

winged stone
muted flare
#

its inhumane to eat chicken nuggets, im surprised its considered food

winged stone
#

didnt think they even sold that few

smoky grotto
#

wait I thought you were lesbian?

rough kettle
#

Since 2016, players have supported the developers by purchasing the highest edition of the game. For 8 years, we've been recommending this game to friends, bringing more and more players into the community. And what was the developers' response? They've blown us off, refuse to comment, and only encourage those who have lost all respect for themselves and continue to pour money in. I personally had high hopes for Tarkov. In my eyes, it was a high-quality and most ambitious product on the entire market. This is unacceptable. This is selfish. This is disrespectful. You've disgraced yourselves completely. You've lost loyal players, you've betrayed the idea. It's disgusting. To everyone who feels the same way - don't be silent. Spam, make memes, spread the word wherever it's relevant. This cannot be tolerated. fuck ya fake apology fuck ya "waves" remove the Distress signal and Mark of The Unheard STOP LYING TO YOUR SUPPORTERS. At this point you cant trust a single thing Nikita says as he has a proven record of lying through his teeth

winged stone
#

surely smallestr american pack of nuggets is like 12

nocturne vortex
smoky grotto
muted flare
#

how are you still alive 😂

winged stone
#

ive never ordered more than 9

haughty wigeon
#

Anyone know how blunt damage is calculated?

nocturne vortex
#

hit u and do damage

muted flare
#

on serious note, no idea

smoky grotto
#

how scrambled is the inside of your head after taking a shot?

old epoch
#

8 peice and a mcgangbang large sweet tea. chad order

winged stone
nocturne vortex
#

i dont like new armor hitboxes

smoky grotto
#

From concussion to mush

winged stone
#

shit is so empty bullet goes straight through

nocturne vortex
#

no head

smoky grotto
#

so no head

winged stone
#

yes

#

not now, not later, not ever, gg

pure estuary
#

Hi

nocturne vortex
#

hello

atomic tree
#

Questions just out of curiosity.

So some people bought Unheard when it was a $100 upgrade from EOD. Now it’s $50. Any idea what the difference is?

Second question, only out of curiosity. How much did the pack increase pocket sizes?

nocturne vortex
swift latch
#

They're credited the 80$ left behind edition last I heare

#

Heard*

muted flare
swift latch
#

For the old peeps purchased before discount

#

Yeah 2 1x1 and 2 1x2

atomic tree
#

Ah. Yeah, still Nikita can get bent.

rapid spoke
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have the devs made any new responses to their scam scandal

keen mauve
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So if the EoD players get PvE why is everyone still complaining? They got the dlc now its just a pay to win edition just like EoD. I dont get the reason behind the spam now.

nocturne vortex
muted flare
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because they have nothing better to do

swift latch
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Eh, it's a key so

nocturne vortex
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sell it for 3 doubloons to a pirate

swift latch
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Can sell it to a trusted friend or something

keen mauve
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Whats up with a key?

muted flare
nocturne vortex
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its 6 months early access and you get it on release

rapid spoke
keen mauve
muted flare
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no they made new post

rapid spoke
nocturne vortex
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oh i see, yeah no eod just gets it now

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released in waves tho
so were never getting it

keen mauve
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Theyve made poor financial decisions so I understand the limited server space, I dont understand why raids are localhost to resolve this

rapid spoke
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idk i still think its a bit unfair that at the very least the offline raid coop is only for EoD, I kinda understand the pve shit but idk

west minnow
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did the priority matchmaking was a thing before this scandal? because thats so wrong

pliant grove
keen mauve
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Coop in offline was already a micropurchase so eh EoD getting it free is just upside to me

nocturne vortex
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eod has always had it

pliant grove
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so that TruE BELievErS can say "It's in beta, it's not ready yet, it will be so much better!!!!44!"

wooden mesa
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we still got 1 more map to release before they release it right?

plush barn
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personally i bought the game 2 weeks ago, i thought it was pretty scummy but i felt the WORST thing that was added in unheard edition was the "in raid backup" and the fact you get extra pockets

idm whatever else is in there i could care less cause im still gonna die hella learning the game anyway

keen mauve
hard python
nocturne vortex
wooden mesa
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Or is terminal post release?

sleek lion
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how long are the waves gonna be for coop?

wooden mesa
nocturne vortex
rapid spoke
keen mauve
nocturne vortex
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you should

zinc maple
wooden mesa
nocturne vortex
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theres never been anything wrong with eod, its not p2w

rapid spoke
muted flare
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nobody knows how the radio actually works yet

keen mauve
nocturne vortex
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ur cooked

hard python
nocturne vortex
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the only p2w thing eod could even be reasoned with is gamma

west minnow
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only the 3x3 container is already a big p2w

zinc maple
nocturne vortex
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but its more or less pay for convenience

muted flare
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depends on your definition of winning

nocturne vortex
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it doesnt give u any in raid benifits

keen mauve
west minnow
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you can stack more things in a secure container where no one can steal

nocturne vortex
west minnow
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isnt that a raid benefit?

nocturne vortex
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second off no one does that if they know how the game works

wind brook
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pve pmcs have eft server moderators as names lol

wooden mesa
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No one is goin for kappa?

hard python
pliant grove
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me personally don't give a flying donkey's ass about the new items or crafts in the UHE, it's just the fact they tried to scam us, EOD owners. That gets me fuming

rapid spoke
nocturne vortex
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i run cms, docs, 2 stacks of ammo

zinc maple
keen mauve
muted flare
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i mean, doing it is fine, you can heal yourself after the fight. but during obviously not

drowsy mica
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it takes u months to get beta container

nocturne vortex
keen mauve
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It stops losses after a failed raid

manic lark
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TARKOV IS SHIT HOPE THIS GAME BURNS DOWN

zinc maple
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in less than a month you can easily get beta if you know what you're doing

peak grail
nocturne vortex
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gamma is not pay to win 😭

west minnow
drowsy mica
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the difference is u cant earn a lot of the things in the unheard edition.

nocturne vortex