beginners-assistance

[hasty kraken]

Do you want 10rnd or 5rnd mags?

[minor bluff]

someone want to run a 3 man or something

[hasty kraken]

Also what is your budget? @echo flower

[bronze spoke]

Is this a reward from a regular quest?

[echo flower]

i rarely mod guns, just show me what you got

[hasty kraken]

Alright here is the parts list its nothing much but should get what you what you need done.

Sum of 23882 Rubbles

Sight is totally optional

[echo flower]

I'm slapping a suppressor and sight on this boy

[hasty kraken]

Yea I did not know if you wanted a suppressor some of them screw with the ergo

But again totally optional

[echo flower]

maybe a sight with range?

[hasty kraken]

SpecterDR

[echo flower]

I can drop like 100k np

[hasty kraken]

its a 1x 4x

[stable island]

what ammo should i use for ash 12

holy shit all the ammo expensive

[elfin gale]

ps12b

[hasty kraken]

Kinda small but PS12B

[elfin gale]

or ps12 if you can't get your hand on ps12b, you'll struggle with higher tier armor tho so kinda meh

[hazy veldt]

FTX is really accurate in a saiga.

[hasty kraken]

If you dont have any PS12B just use PS12

[hazy veldt]

this is what I used, about 130k with the scope and suppressor.

[cyan arrow]

can anyone help me with cold blooded quest

[echo flower]

need the mtu L to use specter?

[sour moat]

https://vimeo.com/685318839
New player here, anyone got advice on what the proper way to engage this three man is? They didn't even react. I went ahead and extracted at red rebel instead of chase because solo

Or, simply, don't miss "easy headtap"

[hazy veldt]

no, you can run a sidemount too, but MTU L is like 10-12k

so it covers handguard + scope mount

since like a axion kobra mount + short leapers is ~13-14k

[echo flower]

thanks, that was my issue, I cheaped out for the MTU S and was wondering why none of the scopes that should be working werent

[hazy veldt]

looking at it, you can get a bit more ergo for some more money though.

with the custom guns type-340 and some dovetail mount

[echo flower]

This is the first time I've actually taken time to mod a gun, despite doing gunsmith 1-15 lol, I just looked at what I needed for those builds and didnt give it a second look.

what kind of ergo should I be going for

[hazy veldt]

mm well suppressor ganks your ergo hard usually.

so with the saiga you're looking at 30'ish with suppressor.

less if you go powermag

[echo flower]

ergo or recoil more important?

[hazy veldt]

difficult to say, for Saiga, recoil is fucked anyway, since it's a shotgun.

so I am not super stressed on recoil.

ie. why I just go stock buttstock + rubber

[echo flower]

I bought a gl core and tube for it to bring the ergo up

[hazy veldt]

uhm

[hazy veldt]

I'd just run stock and abuse canted for cqb.

[echo flower]

i dont even know the keybind for canted lol

[floral pasture]

help

[hazy veldt]

it's the switch between sights keybind

[dry belfry]

Appropriate username

[hazy veldt]

I think Mouse3 should be one of the defaults.

[floral pasture]

lol

[echo flower]

22 MOA, is that high?

[dry belfry]

Lmfao

Yes, but MOA is measured at 100m

So you're fine

Just don't shoot at 100m

[fluid olive]

Can someone that knows lots about computers dm me 🙂

[hazy veldt]

put shells in it.

should be around 4-8 with ap-20 I think.

FTX is like 4.4 in a saiga.

[empty marsh]

any noobs want help doing some early quest hmu

[hazy veldt]

due to the +135% accuracy bonus

[echo flower]

maybe my moa is high because the saiga is one I found with 63 dura?

[dry belfry]

It's not THAT high because of the dura

[empty marsh]

shotguns have high moa because they arent rifled lol

MOA is minute of angle and measures the deflection from zero

[dry belfry]

Put a round in the chamger

[empty marsh]

get some AP-20!!

[echo flower]

the scope was just something I was checking out in the firing range, gonna check specter next

[echo flower]

using up my bmg first XD

[hazy veldt]

Yes, dura tanks it a lot.

[echo flower]

I'll buy a fresh one and move it over

[hazy veldt]

but also put in ap-20

you have magnum/7mm? in the mag?

[echo flower]

BMG

50 cal

[floral pasture]

help

[hazy veldt]

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-US/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170

might fix it.

[hazy veldt]

ah, then it's the durability yeh

[echo flower]

black keycard barter worth?

only asking because my scavs have brought me 5 now

11.5 moa with ap 20 on a new one lol almost halved

[empty marsh]

worth simply so you can do the samples quest lol

[echo flower]

whos doing samples?

[hazy veldt]

I did samples without Labs, just run more scavs and you spawn with the stims you eventually.

[echo flower]

yeah i got 3 etg's from moonshine #blessed

[empty marsh]

yeah i never run scavs so that would be too slow for me

[echo flower]

oh you were replying about the black keycard barter

[cinder trout]

Can anybody help me? I bought Tarkov like 2 years ago played it for 4 days and haven't touched it since. I tried recently to redownload it and play with some friends and it says my account has been "permanently blocked" I dunno what to do.

[dry belfry]

You could try to submit a support ticket, but you'll likely get nowhere

You're banned

[floral pasture]

nothing is working

[dry belfry]

You should probably check for OS updates, create a thread on the forum, and open a support ticket

Very likely no one here will be able to help

This isn't really tech support

[mossy mica]

Can someone tell me what the grenades are that blow up right on top of you when someone throws them at you?

[bold kernel]

impact grenades

[mossy mica]

Are they RGN, RGO, RGD-5 ?

[hazy veldt]

your account probably got hacked and you're most likely fucked.

[hazy veldt]

RGO, RGN only.

[bold kernel]

Another $60 solves the problem.

[echo flower]

best place to find 6B43 armor?

or do i just barter and damage it

[frail anvil]

You can barter and damage it

[lost crest]

I can't find any info on what the ruble value under the trader tag is. Is that a max ruble count I can trade with them?

[violet furnace]

Probably, but it resets when they stock up

So u probably won't use all of it

[lost crest]

I see, I'm not a beginner, but I was just wondering. I've never seen it change, or notice it change

but thanks for the response

[frail anvil]

I wanna buy items case and its in one currency I dont have alot of kekw

[lost crest]

which currency?

[violet furnace]

I never bought euros and got it

And u can just use dogtags

[lost crest]

you can buy euro from skier

[frail anvil]

Ik

[lost crest]

at level 2?

[pure talon]

ofc

[lost crest]

eh gl

[pure talon]

🤡 Quiz #61, for new players with a nice reward for the winner 🤡

Here we go again!

A small impromptu quiz for new players (level under 40).
I'll be asking a series of Tarkov related trivia questions in a text chat.
The winner will get a complete loadout.

Everyone can enter, your region doesn't matter.

Message me with a screenshot of your overall if you want to enter.
Entry will close in 15 minutes. Quiz will take place in 20 minutes.

[frail anvil]

If this quiz is legit why tf are you putting clown faces on it?

[lost crest]

lol

[pure talon]

no rest for the wicked, the community appreciates you valuable contribution

[violet furnace]

Can u send me qestions after it ends? I just Wana know

[pure talon]

you have to enter

[lost crest]

quiz seems sus

jk, good luck with quiz

[violet furnace]

Many ppl sent screen shots with loot he gave, so probably yes

[frail anvil]

If you didnt have clown faces on it it wouldnt seem sus

[lost crest]

XD

[violet furnace]

But after quiz ends, I have to high lvl and hours

[pure talon]

no one forces you to get a free stuff

[lost crest]

that is true

what kind of questions are you asking?

[frail anvil]

Trivia

[lost crest]

how hard are these questions?

[pure talon]

let me put it that way, all questions should be no brainers for veteran players and all answers can be easily found on wiki

[frail anvil]

I think he could ask you anything

[lost crest]

so, you could ask something like "What kind of scopes don't go on an AKM?"

[pure talon]

something like that

[lost crest]

ok

[violet bane]

man there is so much to this game. Whats up people? Im new at this. Was seeing if there was anyone interested in Partying up with a newb to do a few runs. Just a heads up, ive literally played a handful of games and dont know the maps lol....love the game though!

[lost crest]

Do scav raiders speak english?

[idle bluff]

Some of them will

[inland marlin]

#pvp-lfg

[pure talon]

apparently not all evil military men speaks russian

[bronze spoke]

there are both russian and american raiders

[lost crest]

ty

[lost crest]

ty

[echo flower]

@hasty kraken @hazy veldt thanks for the help, got it all in one shot lol

[median raven]

Mp153+flechettes best novice zero to hero weapon no cap

[hazy veldt]

not 11 headshots,

:p

[echo flower]

MOA 11 give me a break

I tried to shoot a sniper scav and it didn't even notice I was shooting at him, and I wasn't hitting him...

[dusky hornet]

New to this game. Are all channels in the discord for PMC or does anyone do Scav runs?

[echo flower]

I'm sure you could coordinate something if you went to the looking for group section @dusky hornet

[dusky hornet]

cool thnx Pacifist

[pure talon]

ive sent you my newbie handbook

[prime comet]

what can i do to the adar to make it better?

[pure talon]

options are almost limitless

[prime comet]

changed the gas block to get a sight on it

[pure talon]

lol

[prime comet]

i just wanna spam tap it with it staying accurate

[pure talon]

gimme a sc

loud or silent?

[prime comet]

that's what i ended up with

this gun is kinda cool with the amount you can do

[digital pond]

What mag works for the remington archangel body

[prime comet]

can you not linked search it?

[woeful spruce]

You can do edit preset to see

[echo flower]

the space trooper looks wild

[prime comet]

can someone help me with finding a gasan in raid?

i'm literally finding it impossible

[pure talon]

its spawns everywhere

[candid hare]

Best bet would be interchange or reserve tech almost a guarantee

[pure talon]

try jackets, duffle bags and drawers

also seen in wooden crates

[prime comet]

the only time i found it was in red tech on interchange

and then i died

havent found one since

and that was like 12 levels ago lmao

[pure talon]

if you really want to fish for it try interchange oli and tech stores

[prime comet]

ive got like 3 intercange quests tbf

but everytime i play that map i find killa

[crimson wharf]

what is the best map for long distance scav kills?

[prime comet]

woods

make sure the task isnt on a specific map though

i've done that a few times

[crimson wharf]

it isn't

[pure talon]

you should have a good luck on scav runs, most people are past this quest already and gasan is 6k a slot so they will most likely leave it behind

[crimson wharf]

i might try lighthouse though, just because i have another quest there

[prime comet]

i've never scavved inter tbf

i make better money scavving factory/lighthouse

[pure talon]

terrible map to scav

scavving a factory.. that's a new one

[prime comet]

i always do it

last factory scav i just made 300k and i was there for 2 minutes

[pure talon]

well, whatever rocks your boat mate

[prime comet]

thats why i started building this adar up

[echo flower]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-18bNxdWOM

[pure talon]

id prefer consistently getting 700-900k on customs in under 9 minutes

but that's me

[prime comet]

i dont know the big loot spots on customs

[pure talon]

it doesnt

[prime comet]

i've only quested on it and it's a struggle doing that at times

[pure talon]

3 scav runs back to back, 2m in under 30 minutes: https://youtu.be/nLmHfQLtFBc https://youtu.be/A9dshA3RMbM

[prime comet]

if i go any map other than factory/lighthouse

i just get murdered as a scav

[pure talon]

like i said, whatever rocks your boat mate

im just preaching the good word and provide evidence to anyone who claims a 200k scav run is a holiday

[prime comet]

what rocks my boat is surviving lmao

i'm not good enough to deal with geared pmcs with a bad scav weapon yet

[pure talon]

i scav exclusively on customs and my scav sr is 80+%

[prime comet]

unless i get a sniper that i can easily one tap with

[pure talon]

understand the player flow on the map, listen to audio cues, avoid fights youre not prepared for and... other than that, just loot and extract

im not saying everyone can make it, people often ask for a "route" on customs not understanding that 2 raids with a same spawn, same time and same extracts will be totally different based on the above factors

[crude mountain]

I've got 5 water filters chilling in my scav case. Should I keep them?

[pure talon]

yes

in 2 months you'll have a water collector and youll be able to put them up for a good work

[crude mountain]

fuck not the answer I wanted

I've got 2 scav cases full oh shit & I need space

[echo flower]

what level are you?

[crude mountain]

17

[echo flower]

share screenshot your scav cases, I can help

[prime comet]

died to raiders near crack house

[tranquil charm]

I can help

[echo flower]

also what level is everything in your hideout

[quick escarp]

can anyone give me some tips on gettin Jaeger? I always get killed by someone near outskirts

[prime comet]

that's be useful

[tranquil charm]

Bet!
Join 2 man channel #8

[crude mountain]

um
kinda cbf writing them all out

at the moment I'm just searching up items and seeing if i can use them for trades later
if not, I just sell

[crimson wharf]

can someone do me a super huge favor?

[trim stone]

What is?

[crimson wharf]

i need someone to come into factory and stab me a few times while a wear a gzhel

[pure talon]

you can take it to a raid

[crimson wharf]

what?

[pure talon]

if you really dont believe in yourself you can get shot by a scav couple of times and drop it for insurance

it will come back another day

[crimson wharf]

it's not that i don't believe in myself, its that i don't believe in the scavs to not immediately shoot me in the head because that's just how the AI in this game works

[cyan arrow]

can anyone help me do cold blooded, i will provide the healing fee

[echo flower]

get rid of: repellent, survl lighter, aa batts, xeno, nippers unless you need to craft the bulbex, krasavch (unless you really like bartering for the mmac), BIG WD-40 cans, wrenches unless you need nutr 2, t plug unless you havent completed farming part 2 yet, 42nd tea hold onto 1 if you think you'll go for collector, you only need 1 rooster (collector), get rid of wclock, keep 1 book (collector), keep 1 badge (collector), 1 veritas pick (C, for collector), AFGlass in your stash, FIR half masks you can keep, get rid of non FIR ones, zibbos, if you completed bad habit (mechanic quest) then don't worry too much about holding onto cigarettes until later for barters otherwise hodl FIR malboro, wilston, and strike if you have them, apollo can go

pglass can go, h matches you only need 2

[crude mountain]

damn bro thanks

[echo flower]

if you're holding onto hmatches and survl lighter for the grenade case barter; its better to just craft your own, you can make it with EMPTY metal fuel tanks and it costs way less

[crude mountain]

Nah I just bought a grenade case lol

[echo flower]

uv lamps can go too

if you go for the docs case barter, make sure to not use up some of those FIR animals or make sure you have extra for when you need them for the quest. Highly recommend getting a few of those cases so you can set up your keys for each raid (reserve, customs, shoreline use up the most keys) unless you're ok with swapping them in and out

[crimson wharf]

can i drop my gzhel on the floor and then shoot it?

[echo flower]

no

[crimson wharf]

thats a damn shame

[echo flower]

just throw it on a dummy in the firing range lol..I wish

[crimson wharf]

honestly

i don't trust these scavs enough to shoot me in the chest though

[crude mountain]

I just run customs atm, cbf learning a new map. I’ve already done the doc trade 3 times lmao, I keep all my cash in em

[echo flower]

yeah its tricky, I happened to find 2 outside of the cottage in shoreline today... I think 2 pmc's are going to be pissed that their gzhels didnt come back from insurance ...lol

[echo flower]

Doc's are better to have one on you in raid in your pouch, can hold all the keys for the map you're running and then you can throw in GP coins, veritas picks, cash, SSDs, flashdrives, SAS drives in it and not worry about losing it

[crude mountain]

Yeh I already do that 👍

[echo flower]

oh ok right on

[crude mountain]

Got all the juicy keys except marked room for customs

[echo flower]

here's a good list of keys that are worth holding onto or bringing w ith you in raid btw https://i.imgur.com/yOB6YUH.jpg

[crude mountain]

Like I really want it, just can’t seem to get my hands on it

lol

[pure talon]

🤡 Quiz #61, for new players with a nice reward for the winner 🤡

Here we go again!

A small impromptu quiz for new players (level under 40).
I'll be asking a series of Tarkov related trivia questions in a text chat.
The winner will get a complete loadout.

Everyone can enter, your region doesn't matter.

Message me with a screenshot of your overall if you want to enter.
Entry will close in 15 minutes. Quiz will take place in 20 minutes.

[echo flower]

I also sort my keys from highest value to lowest so if there's something worth more than a key and my case is full I can easily decide what to get rid of to make the room

[dire rock]

how do you do the quiz is it like a google survey?

[pure talon]

text chat

[dire rock]

ah, group DM?

[pure talon]

exactly, first one to answer gets a point

[dire rock]

nice of you to help the little ones lol

[pure talon]

❤️

[crimson wharf]

what does it mean if Avokado starts beeping?

[pure talon]

bomb has been planted

[echo flower]

I might need to buy another holodink just to hold all the moonshine vodka and whiskey for items case...

[pure talon]

haha

the other barter costs almost the same rn

and it takes way less space

[echo flower]

or I need to try to really grind for FIR opthalmo's and LEDX

always die with opthalmo in my pouch

[pure talon]

you dont need them to be fir for barter

[echo flower]

for quest

gives me 1 thicc items

[pure talon]

you only need one

[echo flower]

yeah

[pure talon]

and ledx you can craft

[pure talon]

LAST MINUTE CALL

[sinful valve]

@serene reef the P90 is AMAZING

[uncut depot]

anyone know why I can see the numbers in the magazines, ive asked 2 other chats and maybe someone here is more knowledgeable, its not clear mags, its not skills, and it works on every gun and every mag, even shotguns. it works on 60s, 100s, 71s and 73 rounders and gives me an estimate as if I was using a clear magazine/had max intellect.

that was using this magazine btw

it has been like this for a week (not complaining) i just want to be able to recreate this for next wipe.

[sinful valve]

Maybe it’s the mag

Try a different mag with the same ammo

[uncut depot]

bro... I just said it works with every mag, even internal mags and shotgun mags

[sinful valve]

Ah mb wasn’t paying attention

[uncut depot]

oh no worries

[sinful valve]

Just got out of a crazy run lol

[echo flower]

so what's the problem?

[uncut depot]

its not a problem just I want to know why im able to do this so I can do it agian next wipe

[echo flower]

you inspect the mag and it gives you the wrong guess?

[uncut depot]

go scroll up and read pls

[smoky moth]

because you can?

[echo flower]

I read it, and I asked a follow up

[uncut depot]

no, its correct.

its not an issue at all, its as if im using a clear mag when im not.

[smoky moth]

the game doesn't have to be 100% realistic

[echo flower]

when you're in your base it'll give you the right number always, in raid it wont

it'll give you an approximation

[uncut depot]

that is false, and as i said (you clearly didn't read) it has been like this for a week.

including during raids

[echo flower]

I havent had that issue and you also didn't specify raid vs base while your screenshots show you in your base

I did read

[uncut depot]

nah this is realistic, im not complaining I just want to know why it is like this so i can do it agian next wipe, its very nice seeing numbers instead of estimates

[uncut depot]

then why would you lie about it saying numbers in the hideout lmaoo

[smoky moth]

it's intended?

[uncut depot]

no.

[echo flower]

Lie about what??

[sinful valve]

It probably is

I’m getting the same result

[smoky moth]

🗿

[sinful valve]

It’s not a glitch or sum

It’s normal

[echo flower]

when you're in your base it'll tell you the number

in a raid it'll give you an estimate

[sinful valve]

My p90 was giving me numbers in raid but not exact numbers just approx

[echo flower]

yes

[sinful valve]

Approx 35, 20, etc

[uncut depot]

BECAUSE P90 MAGS ARE CLEAR

THIS IS WORKING ON EVERY MAG

PLEASE STAY WITH ME HERE

[echo flower]

so with an opaque mag it won't work correct?

[remote kettle]

are people on crack here?

[sinful valve]

Ayyyy it’s my boy 👽

[remote kettle]

for some reason game is giving number approx. all the time instead of only with the mags that should.

[sinful valve]

Where the ladies at?

[uncut depot]

less than a week ago, using the same gun, same mags, it would tell me "less than half" etc etc, randomly it now says approx - 15 etc etc I LIKE THIS AND WANT TO DO IT AGAIN

[echo flower]

what's your perception

[remote kettle]

they have been repelled

[uncut depot]

HERE IS ME IN RAID DOING IT

[sinful valve]

I’m so proud 😢

[echo flower]

excellent, what are your skills at

[remote kettle]

🤸
🦽 🏌️

[uncut depot]

what skill may I ask

[echo flower]

all of your memory based skills

the ones with M's beside them

[uncut depot]

my only maxxed skills are endurance strength and metabolism

this is mag drills

[echo flower]

might be a perk for hitting level 10 with mag drills?

like when you hit endurance 10 you get 10 more stamina

or energy rather

[echo flower]

Increases ammo unloading speed
Increases ammo loading speed
Magazine loading is performed faster with every loaded round
Increases speed of magazine check using the context menu
Increases precision of magazine check through the context menu

[remote kettle]

it does increase accuracy of mag checks when leveled, and not only elite, so most likely that. hitting level 10 gives you an approximation instead

[uncut depot]

C O N T E X T M E N U

(thats your inventory)

y'know when you middle click on a mag with a '?' on it?

thats what it means

not checking it in the gun, outside of the gun.

[echo flower]

the game doesn't explain everything precisely mate, and they probably tied that into it

[uncut depot]

if you think i didn't check every skill related to mags before asking in the fucking beginners assistance chat, you are stupid.

[uncut depot]

this is not my first wipe with level 10 mag drills, and none of my friends who have higher/lower mag drills have this ability

[echo flower]

dude this is my first wipe, I'm just trying to help people in here you chud

[uncut depot]

oh

why are you acting like you know everything if its your first wipe bro

[echo flower]

im not im trying to help

You've projected that persona onto me for whatever reason

[uncut depot]

this message has not one word of truth in it. spreading misinformation is not helping man

[echo flower]

you've been an ass since you got in here

[uncut depot]

sorry for coming off aggressive I didn't know you were new lmao

[echo flower]

I was just working with what you gave me

open a support ticket if you want a real answer

[uncut depot]

yeah thats what the other 2 chats told me to do :/

i'm just gonna chalk it up to be a bug I guess and move on enjoying the free mag count until wipe comes

[echo flower]

and it's been like this since 3 years ago https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/8c8uqx/i_know_mag_check_is_approximate_but_shouldnt_a/

[uncut depot]

that is actually a bug from awhile back, the rssas can only have 20 rounders and the magazine has not only 22 which is not an approx. but an exact number. 22 is impossible in a 20 rounder.

[echo flower]

true, but it gave a number? or was that specific to that magazine at the time

[uncut depot]

what I am having is where all mags give an approx. as if they are p90 mags or clear mags

[echo flower]

its only you?

[uncut depot]

out of who i've asked and my friends yeah, I've even dropped my guns to my friends to see and they just got ~less than half or something like that

[echo flower]

you compared every skill to your friends?

[uncut depot]

yes, some have higher skills some have lower no difference

[hazy veldt]

mmm, but endurance 10 doesn't give +10 energy, rest space 3 gives +10 maximum energy?

[uncut depot]

although I am the only person I know with max strength

[echo flower]

well one has to be an outlier

[echo flower]

oh my bad with that, I must've had them happen at similar times, didn't read the perks to rest3, now I know, and I won't spread that lie

[uncut depot]

yeah wait wtf this is more false info, no level 10 skills have special buffs, only level 51 skills

[echo flower]

thanks for catching that and informing me @hazy veldt , not flipping out and calling me a liar like @uncut depot

I'm new to this game and made assumptions, still learning

[uncut depot]

idk for a fresh wipe to be hanging out in the beginners assistance and not have 1k + hours is sorta weird, i assumed you were a veteran and were just lying to people for fun

[echo flower]

Well I come in here to also ask for assistance

if I know something I'll try to help

[uncut depot]

yeah I mean it is kind to help people now that im saying this out loud i am the asshole sorry lmaoo

[sacred gale]

Ok, so, im at a point in the game where i have sure fire ways to make some money, sometimes 100k per raid or up too 700k per, and i want to start using that money and i set a few goals for myself, and one of those was to find a ledx and bitcoin in raid, and i got a few shorline keys for myself, and learned the map pretty ok, out of all the times i have been there, wich idk if its enough to judge yet but around i would say 18 times, i am yet to find anything of value, no labs cards, no btc, no gpu, not even a lion statue, and what pained me the most a ledx. And idk what to do, if its my luck, my route i take, or if tarkov just dosnt like me and i should quit. Please if you have any suggestions to help me fulfill my challange of finding a ledx please tell me

[echo flower]

Haven't found a single 74UB then I realized I don't think I've seen a scav with one this whole wipe, not sure how hard they are to find, but I stopped turning in my 105's after I realized that is there a map with higher spawns of this on scavs?
74UB is a suppressed one

[hazy veldt]

are you going to resort right away?

are you checking all the rooms with ledx spawns?

[sacred gale]

Yes and yes, every time

I learned them all, did my reaserch before i got the keys

[hazy veldt]

idk, try night or popping sj6 for faster time.

also try different servers.

[sacred gale]

Ok, as soon as im back to my home ill try that

Dose night have better loot or dose it not effect anything?

[hazy veldt]

also, while 18 times is a bit unlucky to not find any ledx, it's not that many times to be a large enough sample size

[foggy stratus]

Going night u see less people

[hazy veldt]

night = less people / less chance people go to resort, because they're questing.

[foggy stratus]

If they are at resort they’re going to specific rooms to either pick up an item or mark something

[sacred gale]

Ok noted, thanks a bunch for the input

[echo flower]

beware of cultists, have that xtg-12 injector ready

[robust robin]

Or the pills instead

[foggy stratus]

Yeeeeah stay away from path to lighthouse

Ur not fighting them if they’re over there. Not without a thermal

[robust robin]

Augmentin

[sacred gale]

Never night raided before so ill learn from my mistakes as i go along

[echo flower]

if they have a stim case on them already then they don't take up an extra spot but yes

[robust robin]

I thought they were mad expensive

[crimson wharf]

@pure talon thanks for the kit

[rotund mesa]

Uh, anyone wanna teach me the ropes? It's my first game

[echo flower]

cultists give you a toxin debuff that is basically like a bleed

[robust robin]

20k for pills 40k for stim

Depends on if you have injec

[echo flower]

guess it's how much they value that square

yeah

[foggy stratus]

I’d just run 1 in my injector at all times then

Like a mule

[sacred gale]

Right imma get back to work now, break is ab up, and again thanks a bunch for the help

[foggy stratus]

Although what’s the tick rate damage?

Cuz a prop might be able to just negate the degradation

[echo flower]

idk, I havent met with one and wiki has terrible info on it, from the description it seems to do more damage the longer you have it? but I might be wrong

[foggy stratus]

Interesting.

[echo flower]

'Deals gradual damage over time and causes pain'

doesnt say if its increasing or not so you might be right with that prop

[foggy stratus]

Yeah that just means it deals damage over time not increasing

If it’s the same damage as a mule it can out heal it

100%

[open rapids]

augumentin much better than xtg cuz of price

[foggy stratus]

More accessible aswell

[open rapids]

yep.

anyone need help with questing or loot routes pmc/scav?

[bold kernel]

Where can i see my scav reputation?

[open rapids]

on traders screen, fence

your rep with fence = scav rep

[bold kernel]

oh

i have -0.72

[crimson wharf]

lol

[echo flower]

killing scavs as a scav does that

or santa

[open rapids]

so you have to stop shooting other scavs and just focus on surviving scav runs

001 for extract, 002-003 for killing pmc that killed another scav (same for traitor scav) and as I remember 004 for killing som1 who touched (killed?) the scav boss

[bold kernel]

yeah ik. In my first scav run ever i think i killed like 6 scavs lol

[open rapids]

easiest way to recover karma is skip runs on factory

[echo flower]

lol dominated

[bold kernel]

I have been doing scav runs on customs

it's the only map i know how to play on

[echo flower]

use your scav to recon new maps, or use offline mode

[bold kernel]

i have a 23 minute scav cool down now :(

[bold kernel]

i am kinda doing that on customs, however it's very difficult (for me) to play as a PMC on customs

it's just hard

[echo flower]

what level are you

[bold kernel]

I think i am lvl 3?

[crimson wharf]

stay away from the action and just survive

[echo flower]

not too late to just wipe your account and start fresh, btw scav exp doesnt contribute to pmc exp

[open rapids]

^ this can help

[bold kernel]

I don't want to wipe my acc. I am fine with my lvl

my scav rep*

not lvl

[robust robin]

Scavs help especially new players but isnt a dealbreaker

[bold kernel]

i will fix it (one day). Rn i am just doing scav runs for fun on customs. I also want to complete that quest with the watch, but i am just bad

[hazy veldt]

https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/Scavs#Scav_karma

Scav case turnaround time in the Hideout
is nice though.

[pure talon]

🤡 Quiz #62, for new players with a nice reward for the winner 🤡

Here we go again!

A small impromptu quiz for new players (level under 40).
I'll be asking a series of Tarkov related trivia questions in a text chat.
The winner will get a complete loadout.

Everyone can enter, your region doesn't matter.

Message me with a screenshot of your overall if you want to enter.
Entry will close in 15 minutes. Quiz will take place in 20 minutes.

[bold kernel]

My main goal rn is to fix my workbench

but i really want to get that watch

I have been trying for days now

:(

[open rapids]

EU?

[crimson wharf]

are both sugar barters worth it?

[bold kernel]

yep

[crimson wharf]

how have you been dying? scavs or pmcs?

[bold kernel]

I mostly survive as a scav, but always die as a pmc. For example i died in the first minute as a pmc to a scav

i was trying to go that gas station (not the one with the green flair) and died imminently

can you team up in Tarkov?

[crimson wharf]

yeah, you can team up before the match

[bold kernel]

can you team up inside the match too? For example, you see an other PMC and instead of shooting them, you team up

[crimson wharf]

good luck with that

i mean you CAN. but that doesn't mean it is going to happen

[open rapids]

voip can help with that but it's about trusting each other. U know kinda hard in tarkov

[vivid hemlock]

Happend once too me, friendly pmc just ran up to me after watching me destroy 2 ppl and offered help, I was confused as fuck

But that's tarkov for ya

[crude mesa]

is it worth running the bitcoin farm with only 1 gpu?

[vivid hemlock]

Usually if someone uses voip he isn't an evil bastard and isn't going to shoot you in the back

[crimson wharf]

yes

[vivid hemlock]

Yes

[pure talon]

LAST MINUTE CALL

[open rapids]

I'm already using voip just for talking with someone cuz neverending fights in tarkov is just boring lol

[hearty magnet]

is this ammo better than m61?

[open rapids]

yes. The best ones but m61 is enough

[pure talon]

https://tarkov-ballistics.com/charts/7-62x51mm-nato/7-62x51mm-m993.html

[vivid hemlock]

Fax, I sometimes feel that too that's why I scav run

[left summit]

What do i have to upgrade in the hideout to reduce scav cooldown ?

[hearty magnet]

intel center

scav running is so op

[robust robin]

Intel

[left summit]

How long does it takes for you now

For me 13min i think

[robust robin]

I think its 15% then 30% at lvl 3

[left summit]

Nice

[hearty magnet]

idk how long but im at intel 3 and scav rep at like 4.00

[robust robin]

Thats not additive or multiplicitive

[hearty magnet]

the cool down is over when Im done selling

[crude mesa]

should I buy gpus for my farm

[echo flower]

how much money you got

[crude mesa]

1M

[hearty magnet]

no

[robust robin]

Id say buy one every time you go past 1mil

[echo flower]

dont pay more than 450k if you can

[robust robin]

500k is a good amount of money to fall back on

[echo flower]

I would keep 1m on you, some more expensive hideout upgrades coming up

but that's just me

[robust robin]

Depends how good you are, 500k is good enough for me

[crude mesa]

Ill wait until its below avg price

[spare lagoon]

anyone know why this wont work for gunsmith part 6?

[crude mesa]

some dude selling 34 for 460k... that seems a little sussy

[crimson wharf]

magazine maybe

[spare lagoon]

no did that

time to spend more money XD

well that was an expensive mistakes

[echo flower]

there any tricks to finding cowboy hats?

recoil is too high, take the mag out @spare lagoon

[serene reef]

WHY ARE YOU PINGING ME

Smh

[echo flower]

what was the mistake

[spare lagoon]

the game not allowing you to have whatever you like XD

i was doing the old build pre 12.11

so i had to have a different front grip , hybrid silencer and the stock stock

[echo flower]

there's a cheap barter for the hybrid 46 silencer btw

[spare lagoon]

oh and a different scope

ye thats not the problem its was just a piss take i meet all the requirements but i didn't have the parts it wanted me to have so it cost me like an extra 200k

[echo flower]

you didnt meet all the req's though, your recoil was 24 over

[spare lagoon]

nope i have recoil of 103 and it had to be under 300 or does it combined vert and horizontal

[echo flower]

combined

[spare lagoon]

ummmm

eft the only game you can play for 1000s of hours and still not know anything about XD

[echo flower]

lol

I just wiki everything lol

[spare lagoon]

ye that was my problem i google and the top video was the outdated one so i just followed it like a fool

[spare lagoon]

well thanks for the insight

[left summit]

Im still on gunsmith part 4.. cant find that mag that i need

[crimson wharf]

barter for it

are both sugar barters for Jaeger and Therapist worth it?

[left summit]

Who sells the mag ?

[crimson wharf]

you gotta buy a whole gun

[echo flower]

lv3 peace barter

[crimson wharf]

part 4 is the one for the M4 right?

[left summit]

Yes i have the gun with all nedded attachments i only need the mag to complet

[robust robin]

Cant you do the gp barter that has already a few mods

[crimson wharf]

mechanic lvl 2 gp barter

[left summit]

Do i need to be lvl 24 to get mechanic lvl 2 ?

[crimson wharf]

lvl 20

[echo flower]

level 20 and .15 rep

750k in sales

[robust robin]

It literally tells you right there lol

[left summit]

I think im already lvl 2 with him

[crimson wharf]

then farm the gp and get the gun

[robust robin]

Filter by barter then

[left summit]

Which gun you mean ?

[crimson wharf]

M4A1 with a drum mag

[left summit]

Ight gone do that thanks

[crimson wharf]

stashes are the best way to make money on woods right?

[echo flower]

stashes are pretty great in general, havent really used woods to make money, but I've heard the map is good for money unsure of what method though

[crimson wharf]

well woods is just nice because if you really want to avoid people, you can

[dull tapir]

Stashes, usec camp, scav bunker and the village

Easy money

[remote kettle]

usec camp and emercom, plus stashes. sunken village also has the marked circle plus some btc spawns

[crimson wharf]

i need to go through there anyways for cult 2

[wary valley]

Not anymore

Maybe when sugar was low

But now its like 80k?

[random rivet]

Anyone looking to do a run right now

I'm itching to scav

[hazy veldt]

5 emalya is worth it.

[crimson wharf]

so the med one isn’t? even if i craft them?

[hazy veldt]

It's a wash if you craft it.

meds prices have gone up, so selling them is ~13k

[remote kettle]

depends, if you can snipe chocolate for cheap or get some non-FIR ones, or if fee to sell is high it might be

(the craft i meant)

didnt mean to reply

[hazy veldt]

alyonka to sugar isn't worth it

[crimson wharf]

i meant if i craft the meds

[hazy veldt]

alyonka to slickers is usually a wash, useful for leveling skill.

https://tarkov.guru/hideout-profit/

[remote kettle]

stick to the other barter

[hazy veldt]

I mean, depending on sugar price, the meds barter can be worth it too.

[crimson wharf]

well it only costs like 28k to make 3 meds

so almost 60k for a sugar

[hazy veldt]

you can't look at it like that.

Because you can just sell the meds.

[crimson wharf]

and sugar on the market is usually around 80k

[hazy veldt]

you have to compare opportunity cost of selling vs using for barter.

[crimson wharf]

opportunity cost meaning how much i “could” make

[hazy veldt]

yes

[crimson wharf]

well then i would also need to count how much i can sell moonshine for

right?

[hazy veldt]

Yes, but you also need to consider the option of selling the meds and buying sugar.

ie. when meds spike to 15k, then the cost of the barter is 90k

buying sugar at 80k from flea and selling the meds at 15k, can be better (well a wash due to fees probably, but flea rep I guess)

[wide bridge]

i think i have a bug

just number in quest's description

and objective saying " eliminate scavs in"

without saying the place

[lost basin]

is it worth running smg's at lvl 3? I really dislike the sks

[wide bridge]

and same for another quest

[remote kettle]

use pst and aim face and pray they dont have a faceshield

[dusky geyser]

localisation error, try restarting the game

[left summit]

do i have to survive for missions like kill 5 scavs on woods ?

[remote kettle]

if it doesnt specify you have to it usually doesnt

[left summit]

ight

[frail anvil]

i hate pscavs

[remote kettle]

ok

[hazy veldt]

I love pmcs as a pscav.

[frail anvil]

i tell you im a scav and you shoot me?

fuck you

and hes a scav as well

imma just start blasting them

[hazy veldt]

they could be:
a) degenerate with -100 scav karma, doesn't care about it.
b) didn't hear you since voip off
c) you looked like pmc / thinks you're lying

Or all of the above.

You could start blasting, if you hate ultra fast scav box/spawning in with some good shit/uninsured gear shop from fence.

But when you start thinking of your scav runs as just free money, with no risk, then you'll probably find it not worth going negative karma.

[midnight holly]

Guys, which bullets are worth crafting in Workbench? Say I got Level 4 traders example.

[scarlet jetty]

Its all maps

[hazy veldt]

Depends on what guns you want to run.

[midnight holly]

I do like the BP bullets, but no point crafting, I think I can buy them cheaper now.

[hazy veldt]

there's no bullets worth crafting besides RIP I think, from a profit perspective.

and even then, you'd be better off making other things.

[midnight holly]

What about use perspective 😛 not profit. Cause example, there's the m995 which I can't get at flea

[hazy veldt]

so only bullets worth crafting would be things you can't buy.

Well, it's 556.

If you want to use 556, then sure, craft it.

[frail anvil]

m993

[midnight holly]

Where can I get M8551

[frail anvil]

m61

[midnight holly]

I can craft m8556 or whatever , but I want the other version

[frail anvil]

you mean m855a1?

[midnight holly]

ye

[hazy veldt]

855A1, PK LL4 / Skier LL4.

[frail anvil]

855a1 isnt on flea so traders with limited access to it

[remote kettle]

pk and skier 4

[midnight holly]

Yikes.. Kind of leans towards nothing worth crafting lol.. Can I ask, what do you guys craft?

[frail anvil]

you could do m856a1

[remote kettle]

wires, PCBs from DVDs, cordura from slings. used to craft condensed milk but sugar prices got fucked

[hazy veldt]

7.62 BP

[frosty veldt]

Should u keep ur hideout perma running i.e w water collector etc.

[frail anvil]

but thats a tracer so be careful

[remote kettle]

wayyy to expensive

[remote kettle]

^^ its hella expensive to buy

[midnight holly]

Yeah, I want to do that sort of.

[hazy veldt]

It's ~735 rubles per round for m856a1, but you can buy it after cult part1

[remote kettle]

56a1 can be bought for 4$ from pk2

[frail anvil]

wrong

[hazy veldt]

so 640rubles

[frail anvil]

pk2 doesnt have 56a1

[remote kettle]

its more like 3.6-3.7 but it gets rounded to 4 in the interface. try buying like 100 and check the dollar price then

[remote kettle]

he does. cult pt1

[hazy veldt]

↑

[frail anvil]

that implies you have that quest finished

[remote kettle]

which i do. its not a hard questline

[hazy veldt]

It's all 556 though, so 🚮

[remote kettle]

only pmc killing quest in that line is friend from the west pt1 and if you dont have that done yet idk

[frail anvil]

i got that one done while I was doing secure perimeter

[hazy veldt]

it's 7 usec kills and dogtags, it's like

[remote kettle]

so just finish the pk questline

just merk some scavs and fetch shit, plus mark the trucks

[frail anvil]

i cant get to the second uav lol

[hazy veldt]

why not?

[remote kettle]

only 1 single objective requires you to go resort

[hazy veldt]

night, shoreline.

[frail anvil]

night chads

[remote kettle]

and you dont even need to go inside

and cult pt1 is actually insanely simple

[hazy veldt]

Chads go to resort.

just skirt outside and you'll almost never encounter anyone except stash runners.

[frail anvil]

theres always some fuckhead sniping

[hazy veldt]

I've never been sniped on night shoreline.

[frail anvil]

i have

multiple times

[open rapids]

looks like u are the luckiest one

[hazy veldt]

try different servers then.

or change your movement, idk.

[frail anvil]

ye thats what I will do

[hazy veldt]

every station is worth crafting, to get skill up.

https://tarkov.guru/hideout-profit/, just run whatever is most profitable hourly when you're on tarkov / total profit when you take a bigger break.

also, ripstop is more profitable, since you can do slickers barter.

but I usually stockpile ripstop for sundays, when it spikes to 30k+ regularly

also sj6 tends to spike to 55-60k+

so I craft all week and then offload then.

[jaunty cliff]

Yall wack that gotta min/max hideout profit just craft 762 bp its too much work to maintain other shit

[hazy veldt]

you put a thing to craft after you get out of raid, repeat.

[remote kettle]

bro? leveling hideout skills is very useful, combining with money. just look what gives the most money, click a few buttons and keep gaming

[frosty veldt]

Should u always stockpile stuff until weekends ?

Like anything good on flea i.e bolts nuts etc.

[hazy veldt]

usually stuff is more expensive on sundays yes.

but depends on how many scav boxes you got for stockpiling 😄

[jaunty cliff]

Just make money on your pmc it aint hard

[hazy veldt]

[jaunty cliff]

Then you don't need to min max hideout

[hazy veldt]

Or... you can do other things and let hideout passively generate items for you to sell.

takes like 10-20 seconds to refresh crafts.

[jaunty cliff]

Its too much to maintain just run bitcoin farm, water collector workbench moonshine and scav case

[hazy veldt]

We'll have to disagree.

[jaunty cliff]

Then its every 5 hours

[remote kettle]

luckily, you are not forced to play a certain way, and can ignore hideout. and us that do care can run it :)

[hazy veldt]

that's not allowed!

[limber notch]

does making bitcoin count as a craft?

in regards to crafting xp

[hazy veldt]

no afaik, because it's repeat of the same craft

but I haven't actually double checked.

[limber notch]

I dont think it does but wanted to double check

leveling crafting effects bitcoin time so I might get into it

[open rapids]

"except bitcoin"

[hazy veldt]

hmm, does it? crafting tooltip says it doesn't 😄

[limber notch]

OH

scammed

[open rapids]

bitcoin farm is just a place where u can put gpus when you are nothing to do left

[hazy veldt]

Not at all.

[open rapids]

and like get back your fuel cost
kinda

not at all
yes.

[hazy veldt]

with fuel costs all on farm, bitcoin2 with 25 gpu, pays itself off in 70.67 days.

if you ignore fuel cost, it's ~38.8 days.

[limber notch]

currently upgrading security and gotta lvl up 2 times then I can get med 3

and then intel 2 and bitcoin 1

[hazy veldt]

so I wouldn't say bitcoin farm is just for when you have nothing left to do, as getting it up in a reasonable timeframe, provides a positive income unless you're starting very late in the wipe.

[limber notch]

I am crafting level 0 so I didnt read the bitcoin part

[hazy veldt]

mhm, it's only in the bonus tooltip

[limber notch]

ye

crafing pre bitcoin isnt worth right?

unless lav I guess

[hazy veldt]

Yes and no.

[limber notch]

well i put some crafting in now but turned off generator

[hazy veldt]

if you mean offline crafting, it requires some math to make sure.

online crafting is almost always worth it.

[limber notch]

I meant online crafting

[hazy veldt]

https://tarkov.guru/hideout-profit/

[limber notch]

oh rly?

online = generator running?

[hazy veldt]

cordura/ripstop cycle + slickers/wilston or some other not-big loss or useful barter craft.

[limber notch]

oh so its worth even without bitcoin to make up for fuel. makes sense

[hazy veldt]

cordura and ripstop alone pay for fuel easily.

• skill increase.

[limber notch]

I never rly thought of running generator unless i had bitcoin. seemed like a waste to me

but now I guess I can leave it up when im playing

eft hideout companion app when?

[hazy veldt]

ripstop is like mmm 20-40k+ an hour profit I think

if you craft the slickers for the ripstop scav vest barters.

or buy the slickers, but there's not a lot of nutrition crafts that are profitable or break even.

[tawdry siren]

are PMC spawns based on what gun u take? i feel like i get similar spawns when i take in different guns

[bold kernel]

you get different spawns depending on RNG

but people always find "patterns" in lotto numbers.

[tawdry siren]

also fuel is worth if ur online when starting but if ur not active to get the ripstock and wires crafts then its not worth, until u get ur bitcoin mining rig

[tawdry siren]

oh fair i thought so but ig its just fluke lmao

[bold kernel]

crafting gas analyzers was amazing. I hate finding looking for them.

[frosty veldt]

wtf is this bag lmao

[open rapids]

str training probably
maybe bait thing for camping

[wary valley]

Are u ded?

[crimson wharf]

yo wtf

tarkov tools shut down

[wary valley]

L

[limber notch]

what is tarkov tools?

[crimson wharf]

you can check if crafts are profitable and if barters actually save you money

[limber notch]

is it temp?

[crimson wharf]

no clue

[sterile veldt]

bro why is a pmc in dorms with 3 minutes left

fucking weirdo

dude had stacked body armor on too

[brittle canyon]

balls deep in loot

[crimson wharf]

anyone got any other websites that show you craft profits and what not

also, should i sell crafted mag cases or craft them into junk boxes?

[robust robin]

Use them and if you dont just sell them

[left summit]

why did he killed me i just got in the raid and didnt do anything xD

[robust robin]

You cropped it was it a player

[dawn geyser]

He's a Glukhar guard, they will kill scavs at 5.99 Karma and under.

Sometimes they won't, sometimes they will

[left summit]

damn fr?

huh i didnt know about that

[dawn geyser]

Same with all boss scavs

Just think of it as if you are 5.99 or under, they will kill you depending on their mood

[left summit]

its hard to identify them for me

i have 1,50 rep rn

[pale pebble]

im only 3.15 fence rep but im friendly with raiders and scav bosses on site, just cant walk up within 5-10 ft distance, might aggro. its weird

[copper siren]

which keys should i keep

[daring warren]

Did anyone else see this ?

Where else can i go for an ammo chart

[dawn geyser]

https://eft.monster/

[daring warren]

Sweet thanks @dawn geyser

[sinful valve]

You wanted to give me one last month

[dawn geyser]

No problem, you're not the only one by the way.

[sinful valve]

Worked my way to it lol

[bold kernel]

eft.monster has a guide on keys. Wait until you get flea to get document case.

[copper siren]

already got one

im lvl 22

[bold kernel]

Then buy a docs case.

[copper siren]

i already have one

i just said

[bold kernel]

Then buy another.

[copper siren]

what for

[bold kernel]

To store keys.

[copper siren]

wouldnt i be better off just getting a keytool?

[sinful valve]

Not always

[bold kernel]

docs case is 300k. key tool is like 750k. Up to you.

[sinful valve]

Some maps you’ll encounter lots of safe loot like gp, diary, slim diary, Bitcoin

Also intel

Those can all fit in docs

[open rapids]

docs can contain papers, bitcoins, etc

[bold kernel]

map-specific docs cases are really nice.

[open rapids]

keytool is only a key obv

[sinful valve]

Agreed

Key tool is good for like resort or inter maybe

[open rapids]

so if u open lets say resort rooms and found gp, btc, veritas etc, u can fit it into docs

or going customs and hit the crackhouse -- doc case

• it can contain money so car extracts always available

read again
gp not gpu

[pale pebble]

lol mm bad

[open rapids]

the coin barter thing

[bold kernel]

see a gpu? Drop your CMS. It's that easy.

[sinful valve]

This right here

Lmao

Mfs will risk a gpu for a 15k item

[open rapids]

yea cms and surv are always the victims:(

[sinful valve]

Don’t forget the alu’s

[limber notch]

in 3 shoreline quest runs ive died twice to ppl in bushes

[bold kernel]

I keep alu, bandage, hemo, cms, lip balm

I'm fine with losing any of them.

[sinful valve]

I used to keep cms, goldenstar, alu, docs

[bold kernel]

docs and afak/ifak

Never ever drop docs. Everything else is cheap.

[copper siren]

i had most of the barter items anyway

got the keytool

[sinful valve]

Now I keep injector, cms, alu, docs

[bold kernel]

rich people keep injector case 😛

[sinful valve]

You already know 😉

[sterile veldt]

bro istg salewas are a scam

[sinful valve]

It’s cheap tho

[sterile veldt]

they never appear

[copper siren]

gamma or epsilon?

[sinful valve]

lol

Beta

[copper siren]

oh

thats also an option

[sinful valve]

Try med camp at woods

[copper siren]

i think beta is a waste of money

i'd just grind thru punisher

[open rapids]

agree with this

[bold kernel]

EoD => Easier gameplay

[sterile veldt]

aight but even then i've searched like 10 medbags and cases and havn't found a single one

[copper siren]

p2w

[bold kernel]

pay to skip grind when I have 2 jobs and kids 😄

[limber notch]

mhm

[copper siren]

yeah sucks when ur a broke student as well

[limber notch]

but it doesnt make gameplay easier technically

[copper siren]

75 euro is a bit of a stretch

[sinful valve]

It does tho

[open rapids]

played for 2 wipes with alpha, bought eod just to save a bit of time for me
but never met a problems with default edition so

[bold kernel]

It makes is so I can do level 2 trades really quick.

[limber notch]

You still play the same game

[bold kernel]

tons of inventory before I get flea to get containers I need.

[sinful valve]

I’m fine with it but it gives players massive advantage

[copper siren]

i got the game for free from a friend

i cant really complain

[bold kernel]

Complain to them until you get EoD

[copper siren]

i'd already upgrade if i had spare money

[sinful valve]

I never said I didn’t

[sterile veldt]

are there upgrade options or do you gotta rebuy the game?

[limber notch]

I mean eod ppl play the same game

[remote kettle]

faster =/= easier

[sinful valve]

Upgrade

[bold kernel]

incremental upgrades

[copper siren]

i told them that if theyre feeling generous my bday is in september

[open rapids]

u should try just static med spawns like crackhouse customs

[limber notch]

Why are u telling me this tho?

[sinful valve]

Yes, they do but they instantly get LL2 and can skip later annoying quests

[sterile veldt]

ye im just farming customs rn

[bold kernel]

You should have lied about your birthday

[sinful valve]

They also can shove what, twice as many items up their butt?

[copper siren]

i have a moral compass, besides the guy knows me

[remote kettle]

buying new additions from the website removes the amount you already paid. so eod being 140 euro would be 100 if you have the 40 euro standard already

[copper siren]

isnt it 75 atm?

[remote kettle]

cause you said EOD makes it easier, but imo it only skips grind, ie making it faster. and faster does not equal easier in my book

[remote kettle]

idk but you get the point, actual price minus what you paid already

[bold kernel]

lots of level 2 are still locked at levels.

I still don't have mechanic level 2, which requires level 20.

and they are the gatekeeper for a lot of hideout things.

[limber notch]

Im politely gonna ask, are you blind?

[jaunty cliff]

No eod doesnt necessarily make the game easier

[copper siren]

ayte

[remote kettle]

are you?

[bold kernel]

Qualifying a question with "polite" doesn't make it polite.

That's like saying

I'm not racist but...

[limber notch]

Im not, but im getting the feeling you are...

[remote kettle]

wait fuck nevermind i am lmao, sorry about that. im tired

[bold kernel]

[limber notch]

lmfao

[sinful valve]

If all of us line up in a race, and I get to start off 5 meters ahead of everybody if I pay the ref $50, you gonna say that’s not p2w?

[jaunty cliff]

Eod doesnt provide any advantage in fights, so the game is not easier

[bold kernel]

WomanRepeller is a pretty honest player.

[limber notch]

oh shit, here we go again

[remote kettle]

not very accurate comparison.

[bold kernel]

Yeah, this conversation will go nowhere.

Can we talk about historical lab cards prices, please?

or FIR cash?

[sinful valve]

I was under the impression each wipe is a race to endgame

[limber notch]

Are you blind (once again)?

[jaunty cliff]

Explain how it makes the game easier

[remote kettle]

if thats what you want to, sure. but majority of the people you're racing against arent actually racing

[limber notch]

mf please get eyes @jaunty cliff

[bold kernel]

I play the game to fail to snipe people at spawn.

[sinful valve]

I can help with that

Stop using guns

[bold kernel]

wiggle your head so I can lower the durability of my AKs

[sinful valve]

Get that fucking cultist knife

[limber notch]

Read here @jaunty cliff before you try 'prove me wrong'

[sinful valve]

Hide in corner

Boom

[remote kettle]

same mistake i made, hes saying it doesnt make it easier

[sinful valve]

Dead pmc

[bold kernel]

holy crap. There's a quest where you need 12 cultist knifes @_@

[open rapids]

yea like 50 lvl so dont bother for now

[remote kettle]

yep

[dawn geyser]

Prepare your butthole!

[copper siren]

it does cause you already get like 1,5 mil at the start if u sell all ur gear + the gamma container allows you to carry a full medkit with you

[remote kettle]

one of the new extreme fuck you quests

[jaunty cliff]

Maybe if you started with that instead of saying were blind

[open rapids]

and at 50 lvl u'll be ready to farm them trust me

[bold kernel]

I'm level 19. I'll be at 50 soon. Probably time to start grinding cultists 😛

[copper siren]

try not to get jabbed and then pay 50k for a heal

[limber notch]

no, dont butt in if u are clueless lmao

[remote kettle]

time save, faster does not equal easier

[open rapids]

OH CMON GUYS

[limber notch]

it gives you a head start, the gameplay doesnt change very much if just becuase you can keep a heal in your ass. You can also keep a heal in you pocket

[bold kernel]

I think Shadow is just a troll 🤷

[limber notch]

Visible confusion

[remote kettle]

no?

[open rapids]

[bold kernel]

Calling people out as blind incessantly

[limber notch]

im just gonna play my game

[copper siren]

you lose exponentially more money if you keep dying with meds
the gamma allows you to keep the uses even if you eat a bullet

[limber notch]

Incessantly = 2 times

[remote kettle]

people are repeatedly not reading his messages properly

[open rapids]

just chill yo

[limber notch]

thank you for teaching me english

[jaunty cliff]

How is that exponential lmao

[bold kernel]

People don't know what "exponential" means anymore.

[limber notch]

i thought incessantly meant without interruption; constantly.

[bold kernel]

2^x is exponential.

[remote kettle]

well then, in case you forgot, later in the game you can get a container that is literally 1 slot less...

[jaunty cliff]

You can get one with 3 more slots

[limber notch]

dont die lmao

[remote kettle]

ie, you save time getting gamma, but its not impossible to get basically the same container

[copper siren]

easier said than done

[jaunty cliff]

Ehh it aint that hard

[remote kettle]

yeah ik, but kappa is so incredibly late it really doesnt come into play in these discussions

[limber notch]

if youre gonne die a gamma isnt gonna block a bullet

[bold kernel]

Reduce the health of other players to zero before yours is reduced to zero.

[split dagger]

But you can just do punisher questline and have a good container

[remote kettle]

me who literally just runs injector and surv12 in my container

[bold kernel]

injectors can do everything, right?

[limber notch]

yes

[split dagger]

Gamma helps but the game doesnt force you to buy it

[jaunty cliff]

You can literally do punisher at like level 25 and get epsilon

[limber notch]

almost

[copper siren]

its like coke

[split dagger]

Yes sir

[bold kernel]

you can stop light/heavy bleeds... wait, what about fractures?

[remote kettle]

this. epsilon arguably has an advantage, as it's 4 slots long

[jaunty cliff]

And a bigger container doesn't = easier

[remote kettle]

painkillers

[copper siren]

not that

[split dagger]

Just pk before

[bold kernel]

alu + injector case + suv12 is everything then?

[sinful valve]

Injectors are godlike

[copper siren]

depends on what do you need to carry

[remote kettle]

surv12 does fractures

[sinful valve]

Proposal for pain

Mule for weight

[robust robin]

You get a betyer item from the start if the game that you can get like 30 hours down the line

[limber notch]

obdolbos for death - literally everything u can ever want in stims