beginners-assistance

[sterile minnow]

Yeah were assholes

#pvp-lfg

[night forge]

ungrateful basterds, they lucky i didnt shank them

or use my PM

very dangerous

[sterile minnow]

Head eyes pm

[night forge]

oh i spawned at big red

[bold kernel]

whats the best gun here

to buy

[sterile minnow]

Ayy

[sterile minnow]

None

[bold kernel]

will be running night time

factory

[sterile minnow]

Theyre all below 50 dura

Usually

Check prapor and mechanic

Jaeger unless you havent unlocked him

[bold kernel]

they have 0 shotguns

[night forge]

how do you activate flashlight

[sterile minnow]

T

[night forge]

thanks

[sterile minnow]

Jaeger does

[keen matrix]

do i need the key for reserve (quest) or can i like touch the fence and get the thing marked

[sterile minnow]

But that requires you to do a task

[bold kernel]

dont have the task

[sterile minnow]

HNHHGGG pls pick up the tasks

From errrbody

[keen matrix]

you need to be lvl 2

[sterile minnow]

What task?

[bold kernel]

I DON'T WANT TO LET THEM DOWN

[keen matrix]

find the food storage

[bold kernel]

im level 10 almost

[crimson wharf]

are items cases any good?

[sterile minnow]

Yes

[sterile minnow]

Let who down

[waxen creek]

im finally getting a bit better

[sterile minnow]

Who the hell told you to not to tasks to begin with

[bold kernel]

THE TRADERS i know i will never do the tasks

[bold kernel]

myself

[bold kernel]

You get the quest thru mechanic

[bold kernel]

did u see the pic?

Braindead my bad yeah that's weird

[sterile minnow]

Early tasks are fairly straight forward tho

And you got dailies

[bold kernel]

not for me

[hazy veldt]

you can buy the mossberg at ll1?

[bold kernel]

if there was a tasked called run factory then i will do it

but if its not factory

then im not doing it

[hazy veldt]

oh lmao, mossy is from jaeger.

Rip you.

[sterile minnow]

Well

[crimson wharf]

what trade is the most worth it for items cases?

[bold kernel]

[sterile minnow]

Cant really help if you dont want to progress like a normal person

[hazy veldt]

↑

[bold kernel]

oh yea i also have done nothing in the hideout

[bold kernel]

i do

[hazy veldt]

so go do quests??

[sterile minnow]

Then you need to do tasks

It's legit the only way to progress

[bold kernel]

Another braindead comment but you sure it isn't already accepted?

i only just saw the hideout button yesterday and ive had the game for like 3 months

maybe 4

[bold kernel]

im sure

[sterile minnow]

Hes done zero tasks

[crimson wharf]

i used to play like you for my first wipe, i would legit only play factory unless i had friends on

[sterile minnow]

Not much we can do

[bold kernel]

you might have to do debut tbh

[bold kernel]

i play it w my friends lol

[crimson wharf]

they haven't had you do quests?

[hazy veldt]

you have to accept gunsmith 1.

[sterile minnow]

Isnt it kinda shit tho, sitting on 2m with ghetto gear doing only factory?

[bold kernel]

we all brought it same day and we all have the exact same playstyle

[crimson wharf]

that's funny asf

[bold kernel]

i find pvp fun

[sterile minnow]

Cus I couldnt play like that, would break my brain

[silver wedge]

help, i have no more space in my stash to put the mags in

[hazy veldt]

you can pvp on every map tho 🤔

[sterile minnow]

Yeah But nothing stops you from progressing to get better gear to pvp with

[crimson wharf]

unload the mags

[hazy veldt]

Your bags are also full?

[bold kernel]

but all other maps too big to remember exfils

[silver wedge]

yes

[bold kernel]

i done the lighthouse

i mained that for a week or 2

[hazy veldt]

Bruh...

[crimson wharf]

do customs first, it isn't that big and only really has 2 "lanes" that you can move around through

[bold kernel]

Just don't get beamed by people up on skeleton like me...

[hazy veldt]

if you don't have space for the mags in the bags, then unload and discard the mags.
Or discard other stuff.

[bold kernel]

ok ill try it tomo

[night forge]

ay i extracted

[sterile minnow]

Ayyy

[silver wedge]

Ok

[crimson wharf]

good shit

[bold kernel]

Heck yeah

[sterile minnow]

Task done?

[bold kernel]

i dont get that why not sell items>?

why do people hoard them

[silver wedge]

Idk

[crimson wharf]

could anyone tell me what would probably be the best trade for items cases?

[night forge]

i wish, i was just a rat looting dead scavs and extracted with a saiga and a STM

and a dope gaskmas

[crimson wharf]

it brings me pleasure having all of that stuff, plus i might need it one day

[sterile minnow]

Worth

[bold kernel]

No scav box? or just too little space for one?

[night forge]

yes now i have 4 guns, wowie

[silver wedge]

It worked thank you

Time to sell everything

[sterile minnow]

Are they all above 50 durability tho?

[bold kernel]

do u level up faster if u do tasks?

[night forge]

lemme check

[delicate raven]

much faster

[bold kernel]

ok well ig im doing tasks

[night forge]

2 of them are lmao

[sterile minnow]

Ayyy

2 reliable guns

2 not so reliable

[night forge]

damnit my Sv 98 is garbage,

47 dur

[sterile minnow]

F

[hazy veldt]

great for pk's quest

[delicate raven]

for me most runs are like 500-1500 xp, even the first tasks on every trader get you more than that lol

[hazy veldt]

headshot more.

[bold kernel]

MP153 vs SAIGA

what is better?

[night forge]

alright, imma go to sleep now, yall have a good night

[sterile minnow]

You too g

[hazy veldt]

Different animals, both are good.

[delicate raven]

good night!

[hazy veldt]

Just saiga you need to use specific rigs if you want to use big mags.

While Mp153 is loose shells, meaning you can go in without a rig.

[delicate raven]

personally like the saiga more since you can mag dump ppl if needed lol

[hazy veldt]

5 round saiga is kind of ass, so I don't like it too much.

[hazy veldt]

but you can magdump with Mp-153

tubedump

[delicate raven]

doesnt it take longer tho? like the time between each shot?

[hazy veldt]

no, both are 40rpm

[delicate raven]

oh bet

[hazy veldt]

mp-133 is ass since it's 30rpm and feels like it's 10 centuries slower.

[delicate raven]

i mightve switched 153 and 133 up mb

time for me to go to bed too, had a total of 7 hours of sleep over the past 2 days and i need to be wide awake for aot so time to catch up on sleep

[hazy veldt]

AOT?

[delicate raven]

attack on titan, new eps drop every sunday

off topic here tho lol

[hazy veldt]

Ah, enjoy sleep.

[delicate raven]

thanks i will!

[bold kernel]

im ready

[sterile minnow]

[hybrid cave]

this key worth anything? what map is it used on?

[bold kernel]

Shoreline Resort

Worth like 70kish I think

[hybrid cave]

are there a lot of bots there?

[bold kernel]

Scavs? I don't think there's too many but i would hold on to that key it's for a quest

My bad it's a different one you should be good though 👍

is a marked dorm key worth 4 gpus

[crimson wharf]

where can you find m tubes?

[viscid kettle]

@calm wharf

[calm wharf]

ah, I see it. thanks. NEED SHERPAS or anyone who is looking to let somoene be their map guy for fun so I can study the maps

[crimson wharf]

do they only spawn on lighthouse?

[honest ingot]

what is a good way to level? besides the quests?
like a "ez" method?

tho i know nothing in this game is "ez"

[bold kernel]

Reserve tunnel killing scavs maybe?

[teal patrol]

raider farming is about it

[honest ingot]

how

[teal patrol]

homie said how

you go kill raiders

[honest ingot]

yeah kinda weird to ask a question in -beginners-assistance- right? lmao

if u say farm, i think about some yee-yee ass youtube tutorial or something. but if u just meant just kill em, no cheesy okay 😄

[teal patrol]

no amount of typing would help you farm raiders, you literally just have to load up labs or reserve and go do it

[bold kernel]

Well you can do reserve at night since im pretty sure raiders are blind

[teal patrol]

?

[bold kernel]

Like they don't have NVG only Glukhar does so it'll make farming a bit easier

But yk it isn't really a beginner friendly strat to level

[teal patrol]

i don’t think that affects anything with ai

i’ve killed labs raiders with nvg on

[hybrid cave]

does this game got the scope glint bs they puting in every game now?

[bold kernel]

Weird I thought differently is it all or just a handful of them?

[silver hornet]

nope

[lone quiver]

What are the odds of finding a gpu in pc block

[normal abyss]

pretty low

but better than nothing, like it used to be for a while

[lone quiver]

Ik it's low but do u have a percentage?

[hybrid cave]

is there bullet drop? and do you got to lead the target a bit? just shot at a bot from a mile away and cant tell if I hit or not.

[normal abyss]

drops aren't a fixed percentage IIRC

[lone quiver]

Ah

[normal abyss]

the actual spawnrates vary as a result of some other factors with loot

I read about it a long while ago though, I can have another look after this raid

[normal abyss]

yes, there's bullet drop and bullet travel time

[lean zephyr]

anyone know how much I should sell the marked pkpm key for?

[plucky oriole]

what would be the best map to collect the needed items for my scav case?

[normal abyss]

different ammunition will have different velocities as well; there's a gun that IIRC fires subsonic or close to it, so the bullet drop is extreme

[lean zephyr]

woods or lighthouse

also maybe a couple spots on reserve

[lone quiver]

I would recommend going customs, dorms, and going through the safes for the valuables, idk about moonshine

[normal abyss]

I remember now, it was the vss

[crimson wharf]

is lighthouse the only map that spawns military tubes?

[plucky oriole]

my friend has 2 moonshines for me

[bold kernel]

No i've found them in shoreline

[crimson wharf]

where do they spawn, like are they loose loot or can they spawn in containers?

[plucky oriole]

ive found them in the back of the trucks you hop into near southern road a few times

be sure to check those

also in the back of the car on the road up to chalet

[bold kernel]

By the Svetily Dead End extract check the two stores

[crimson wharf]

you are speaking gibberish to me, i haven't touched lighthouse yet

[plucky oriole]

oh

one moment

ill circle them for you :)

on a map

[crimson wharf]

thanks

[plucky oriole]

theyre right here

[calm wharf]

anyone gettingdisconnected?

[dusty laurel]

which trader should I turn in the chemical truck task thing to skier, therapist, or prapor?

[plucky oriole]

you hop on top of a barrier and then jump into the back of the truck

[frozen flare]

anyone trying to run quests lvl 16 NA/W
specifically bunker 2 i keep getting smoked by chads

[unique plover]

Interchange for rolers and chains honestly

Check goshan lockers

[plucky oriole]

thanks :)

[crimson wharf]

where do i need to avoid the rouges?

[plucky oriole]

i was thinking the same

[plucky oriole]

literally the opposite side of the place i circled

are you bear or usec?

i can give you a general line of where not to go

[crimson wharf]

was planning on going scav, but i am a usec

[plucky oriole]

oh alright

scav and usec have the same aggro range

[crimson wharf]

oh okay

is it worth trying to take the rogues on?

[plucky oriole]

id say this is the danger zone

roughly

just dont go north and youll be safe from rogues

[crimson wharf]

alright

[plucky oriole]

and only try to kill them on your scav if you know what youre doing and spawned in with a sniper rifle

[crimson wharf]

are they that dangerous?

[plucky oriole]

well, you just dont wanna die to them lol

the most consistent way to kill them is with snipers

especially if youre on a scav that most likely has really shitty armor

[crimson wharf]

oh okay

are there landmines?

[hybrid cave]

do keys only open one door?

[crimson wharf]

yes, but they can open the same door multiple times

[dusty laurel]

should I do trust regain or loyalty buyout?

[plucky oriole]

in the areas marked with red diagonal lines, yes

the car ive found military tubes in is here

[steel holly]

is there anyone that can help me finish bunker part 1?

[plucky oriole]

@dusty laurel i could teach you how i scav lighthouse sometime

i find my route/method fairly effective, i usually make like 250k

[crimson wharf]

i died

[potent crater]

are servers down or something?

[crimson jasper]

for the tremor headshots, can I still be on pks?

[deft lantern]

I am at lvl 12 using a kitted out Vper-KM with a holoscope and a pp-91 kiln. Looking for something to upgrade to. Not much options, looking for something that will pierce armor better

[plucky oriole]

oops wrong ping

@crimson wharf meant you

[crimson wharf]

oh, im down i just died thouhg

[plucky oriole]

yea i wont be able to for a bit im busy rn

heres a closer screenshot of water treatment so you can see the minefields better

[crimson wharf]

yeah i stepped into that big bottom right one

[plucky oriole]

rip

that ones gotten me more times then id like to admit

[bold kernel]

Mosin? 7.62x54 has good pen

[deft lantern]

Swap my Vper for that?

[crimson wharf]

i mean if you are going for long range like on woods

[deft lantern]

Shoreline and woods alot...

Just frustrating I can empty a clip into someone and then get 2 shot

[bold kernel]

Actually that would kinda work if you had a backup for close ranged combat

[hybrid cave]

omg I did hit the bot, he bleed out when I left.

some spots in this game are super creepy. this is the first game to make me jump since like fallout 3 when I was a kid. Is this a spot where the cultists spawn? I never see them around these.

[bold kernel]

You would have to jump in the raid at night to see them

[hybrid cave]

also in the stats screen when it shows damage dealt does it count bleeding from your shots or is that all from hits?

[cerulean seal]

do you loose scav rep for killing rogues and do they shoot you as a scav?

[rain wing]

does failing the daily tasks fuck with your rep?

[rain wing]

not sure about killing rogues

but as a scav

they should ignore you

unless

someone else has aggro'd them

then they're aggro for the rest of the raid

and will shoot everyone

[cerulean seal]

my friend answered he said they dont shoot you

[rain wing]

otherwise scavs should be free to walk around

[cerulean seal]

but thanks

[rain wing]

read

most people kill the rogue that's perched up on the mounted mg near the front side of the compound

[pine fractal]

can some one help me learn the ropes of this game

[bold kernel]

You don't

[cerulean seal]

ok ty

[bold kernel]

But I guess take some caution cause scav gear isn't the best lol

[wheat jetty]

how do you kill some scavvies

[maiden cliff]

gun

[versed oriole]

how do u kill scavys

[tired shell]

big boom stick

[versed oriole]

gunnies>

gunnys>

[tired shell]

pile_o_gunz

[rain wing]

usually when you spawn as a scav there should be a few dead rogues

so I just run there and try to avoid the others as much as possible

and loot one of em and just take the gun and dip

there's usually one guy here

[rain wing]

that people kill

cause he's literally like right at the entrance

[hybrid cave]

wait I just killed a player scav and it did give me standing, I thought that was bugged. so is it always the same amount of standing? do they need to kill 2 or three for it not to give you negative standing?

[rain wing]

did he shoot you first?

[blissful agate]

I've been playing the game for round about 3-4 months now, and it feels like I haven't gotten better since the second month. I die when I run into a PMC 80% of the time, even with a good gear set, and I've been playing only three maps in order to know my surroundings as well as possible.

What do I need to do to get better, because I'm really at a standstill of just running around the map for money and being unable to get better.

[bold kernel]

Anyone got any idea what i should sell my hillside house key for? I see a bunch of barters but none listed for roubles

i dont run either customs or lighthouse

[maiden cliff]

try to do quests they will get u gear money and xp and focus on one map

[blissful agate]

Money isn't my problem. I have 5-7 million at most times. I've been doing quests, it's just that I've almost run out of quests for Customs, Factory, and Woods.

It's just that it feels I'm not improving

[hazy veldt]

Why do you die? Positioning? Bad Aim? Recoil too high?

[blissful agate]

It's bad game sense mostly. I came to this game from shooters like Titanfall and Halo, so my sense of knowing where players are, when to push, and how to effectively strategize quickly are almost non existant

[hazy veldt]

Cheap Kits + Factory for the quickest way to improve in pvp.

[maiden cliff]

try to focus on sound

[hazy veldt]

Good audio is also pretty vital and learning the maps on scav or offline helps a lot.

[tough oyster]

tfw my team gets killed by a hacker and im last alive

[blissful agate]

is it just me or is it impossible to tell if someone is above or below you from audio?

[maiden cliff]

happens sometimes

[smoky moth]

nope

[blissful agate]

im in dorms a lot for quests (and fun), and its almost impossible to tell if someone is above or below based on sound

[maiden cliff]

find a headset you like

for me that makes a great diffrence

[blissful agate]

I frankly can't tell the difference between most headsets

[bold kernel]

thats not good my dude

[blissful agate]

except the gsshs
they suck

[bold kernel]

sounds like you need more range in your IRL headphones

[maiden cliff]

i just use the comtacs they are my favourite

[bold kernel]

M32 from skier are one of the loudest. try those

[blissful agate]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Gaming-Headsets/USB-Headsets/HS60-HAPTIC/p/CA-9011225-NA
are these any good?

[stable island]

does that work alot?

[blissful agate]

(fyi, the haptics are a gimmick. you keep them off if youre sane)

[stable island]

what do u guys do on yo scav runs fo money

[bold kernel]

reserve tech spawns and dead raiders

[untold elm]

best type of ammo?

[bold kernel]

@untold elm literally impossible to answer that question

[untold elm]

generally speaking

like 556 or 762

[bold kernel]

oh well igolnik is pretty good. but hard to find

[lone quiver]

There are a ton of ammo types, and some penetrate while others do damage, I would recommend looking at a graph or video so you can find what's right for you

[bold kernel]

they call it the unicorn round

download battle buddy on your phone

really good round charts there

[rain wing]

how do I actually use my compass?

[bold kernel]

press U

[scarlet jetty]

I love AP-M personally but the VPO-209 just fits my playstyle perfectly

[bold kernel]

and have a picture of a cardinal map pulled up

@rain wing ^

[rain wing]

ohhh

aight

[hybrid cave]

no I heard an ak fireing for a long time on automatic and the bots almost never do that and rarely have a solid ak on customs. so when the player started running in on a path to organic for one of the bots I just shot.I thought he was a pmc but there was no tag and the bots didnt mow me down, or at least what was left of them.

[rain wing]

where am I

[final fiber]

would someone be able to help me with something

[rain wing]

not sure then, the bots should be swarming you

could be a rogue?

[final fiber]

im stuck on a task and if someone could get me an item i would very much appreciate it

[smoky moth]

you're at the checkpoint

[rain wing]

ohh

[echo salmon]

how do i get the game

is it on steam or sum?

[hybrid cave]

the escape screen confirmed It was a rogue, I was just asking at what point does the game officially call them a rogue so I get standing for my head removal services?

[smoky moth]

https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/

they said it would be on steam when it's officially released, but it's been 3 years and its still in beta so

and tarkov already got a big playerbase, so why bother moving to steam

[echo salmon]

do i preorder it?

[smoky moth]

unless they want to unload their updates and installations to steam servers so we wont get backend errors

[smoky moth]

yes

preorders will have guaranteed beta access

[hybrid cave]

also while were on the topic of release, do they have a expected release date?

[rain wing]

tarkov will literally never go into full release 🙏

[smoky moth]

none as of right now

tarkov still has so many unreleased maps as well

unless they manage to push streets and other stuff asap and then boom

[rain wing]

any magnified scope I can put on?

[hybrid cave]

I thought ark would, then after like 4ish years they did and a ton of the player base vanished.

[smoky moth]

do edit preset

[rain wing]

ohh

aight

[smoky moth]

i have a spreadsheet here if you want to see all scopes and how they look like

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GzTKGEDC0kAfnpHvVWiM8rkizuLb1tp4UQ23C4e3Jtw/edit#gid=0

[rain wing]

oh thx

is there a way to like

split a stack?

oh

nvm

got it

[smoky moth]

CTRL then drag it, you should be prompted to select how many you want to

[hybrid cave]

thats why a lot of the player base left, most of them thought the game wouldn't release at that point and put months of work, the game was super hard core multiple hours a day just guarding your stuff and they made brand new servers as the old ones died out. I really hope this game handles it better, I would guess it would because there's a stash and your not stuck defending stuff in the open all the time.

[smoky moth]

the devs behind tarkov at least listens to us and responds often to the community, i dont see tarkov's playerbase dying any time soon

[hybrid cave]

good to know, that games devs listened to no one, set a bunch of rules never enforced them and it turned into a mess of large groups of DDOSers controling the servers. these devs definitely seem to be better than most today.

[barren oasis]

so just stop playing the game

[hazy veldt]

You are a saint among sinners.

That sheet would only be better if it had night comparisons too.

Took the valday out during the night, wasn't nice.

[smoky moth]

the images were from wiki, they forgor to add them

[rain wing]

shd I sell wclock or barter it?

to thera

I mean

[hazy veldt]

sell

[rain wing]

fcond?

[hazy veldt]

sell if you don't need.

[rain wing]

it's for that one quest right?

from ragman

[smoky moth]

fcond?

[rain wing]

mhm

[smoky moth]

wooden clock isn't needed elsewhere, no quests require it

just sell

[rain wing]

I'm still pretty far from that though

so I just sold it

I'm still like level 10

lmfao

[smoky moth]

yea just sell

[crimson wharf]

scavved at lighthouse for the military tubes, left with all this stuff

[hazy veldt]

I hate when my scav has a trash gun

[hybrid cave]

wait your joking right? its been like 2 weeks and ive seen neither of those guns

[crimson wharf]

no joke

no clue what to do with either of them since you cant sell them on the flea

[unique plover]

Use em

[foggy stratus]

Just saying, if u go about the idea of getting shit when u need it rather then holding it early on, you’ll be hurting urself throughout the entirety of ur questing to lvl 42

Will take twice the amount of time

[unique plover]

Especially fuel con’s. When you get to that quest it’ll take you forever lol

[tough oyster]

scavs cant get run thru right

[crimson wharf]

me?

[foggy stratus]

The game has a way of saying fuck you to certain items if it sees you need them. Ergo 30 raids for 1 singular PM pistol last wipe

Anyone

[crimson wharf]

ohhhh

yeah no i grab stuff when i see it

already got my two pms waiting for me

[foggy stratus]

Hell by lvl 20 my stash is 75% task items

[crimson wharf]

by level 5 my stash if filled with shit i think i need but i don't need it till like level 20

[foggy stratus]

Not needing something till lvl 20 isn’t a bad problem

You’ll have it then and won’t need to waste time looking

[crimson wharf]

true, but also i like to fill my stash with armor, backpacks, and rigs 😈

[sterile minnow]

They shouldnt, But check raid timer anyway

[foggy stratus]

That’s what lvl 42+ is for imo

[crimson wharf]

you don't understand i NEED this stuff

[foggy stratus]

Idk then

To me gear and rouble count means absolutely nothing if I can’t buy good guns for half the amount due to trader level

[sterile minnow]

You ever gonna use said gear?

[foggy stratus]

Fair point aswell

[spice tapir]

can someone help me with a few easy tasks ?

[foggy stratus]

What’s the point of having the good gear at low level if ur not gunna use it

[crimson wharf]

i have a severe hoarding problem

[sterile minnow]

Well It's never to late to do something about it

[crimson wharf]

is this an intervention?

[weary dragon]

Best thing I ever got taught was hoarding gear / gear fear is no different to have already lost it anyway

[sterile minnow]

If it helps you not to hoard

[foggy stratus]

I sell slicks

[sterile minnow]

In all srsness, you do you
But hoarding isnt gonna do you any favors unless you go for broke

[crimson wharf]

just might

[sterile minnow]

We believe in you

[crimson wharf]

wanna help me out? 👉 👈

[sterile minnow]

Im a semi hoarder myself man

[crimson wharf]

[sterile minnow]

Sat on like 9 scar's when xmas tree was here

Still got 2 vectors for what ever reason

[olive sun]

Ive had the game for about two weeks and already don't take my own gear out unless its cheap

[tawny burrow]

yo, bored level 40 here 1k hours. WHO NEEDS HELP : )

[sterile minnow]

Thats just gearfear

[crimson wharf]

see i don't have gear fear, its just that everything i have i feel is good and i don't wanna sell it

[tawny burrow]

if you dont use something or sell it, you are wasting it

[olive sun]

@sterile minnowyeah I know

[sterile minnow]

What type of gear we talking tho

Ammo, armor, weapons etc

[crimson wharf]

i feel like as of right now it is backpacks, rigs, and armor

[sterile minnow]

Oh

I mean backpacks stack, rigs I feel is kinda personal pref, I keep a few for more space

But good armor isnt gonna protect you in hideout

[crimson wharf]

so the problem is that as of right now some of the rigs are saving me space as well as the backpacks, so if i got rid of them it wouldn't really solve anything since there is stuff inside them

[tawny burrow]

cool arrow, do you want me to help you clear out your stash

[crimson wharf]

it would be nice 😂

[sterile minnow]

Told u we believed in u

[warm minnow]

shturman night raid fking impossible.

[sterile minnow]

Hes easy at night wym

[warm minnow]

i get fucking shafted every time

[sterile minnow]

Day time he fucking snipes u from 500 yards

[warm minnow]

night he fucking snipes you from 500 yards in the dark

[sterile minnow]

If you let him spot u

Hes blind as fuck at night

[warm minnow]

well then his guards arent

[tawny burrow]

@crimson wharf 3man quad channel #11

[warm minnow]

all of em have some t7 nvg bs

[sterile minnow]

They run blue tint strap

[tawny burrow]

wait why can i not join channels wtf

[sterile minnow]

Not spider nvgs

Bring nades to flush them out of bushes

[crimson wharf]

its full?

[sterile minnow]

Kill 1, the other two will move towards the body and theyre free

Sthtur usually runs away

[warm minnow]

T---T I've capped shturman just to get tapped by guards, i dont know how im supposed to be doing this anymore

[crimson wharf]

kill them all 😈

[sterile minnow]

Small hint

They LOVE bushes

[modest cypress]

so how are you supposed to do scav runs without losing rep

im lost

[tawny burrow]

im in channel #9 for 2man squad coolarrow

[crimson wharf]

don't kill scavs

[sterile minnow]

Dont kill other scavs or pscavs

[modest cypress]

yeah i know that

[sterile minnow]

Or boss/guards

[modest cypress]

i get shot usually

[sterile minnow]

If u get HIT, shoot back
If u get shot AT, run away or take the L

Or blast, fuck fence rep. Up to you

[modest cypress]

anyone wanna help

[sterile minnow]

But depending on spawn; lets say you spawn outskirts. Move to the big blue tincan house, theres usually a guard or sthurman there, kill 1, hear them running towards you, stay out of line og sight, pick them off
A nade or two helps to get them tf out of bushes.
Sorry for the wall

[quiet zenith]

Looking for group

[sterile minnow]

#pvp-lfg

[echo flower]

man I got a daily to kill scavs with a mounted machine gun

[lone quiver]

Am I good to do scav cases with -0.22 rep?

[cinder crow]

need scav kills on woods anyone down? lvl 12 na

[echo flower]

do scav cases get better with more rep? mine have been crap and I'm positive, not that positive but positive

[lone quiver]

I believe so but not completely sure

[frosty quarry]

Pretty sure they do

[potent crater]

man I was trying to cook but burned my finger slightly :(

[frosty quarry]

Put it under water

[potent crater]

I Dont think so just decreases time

[potent crater]

I did im fine my finger just kinda hurts and I think im gonna have a blister :(

[echo flower]

man I wish flea rep scaled better

[potent crater]

flea rep?

[echo flower]

getting to 10 takes forever

flea market

[potent crater]

oh I got to whatever it is to get a 4th offer last wipe from selling thicc items for like 15mil

[echo flower]

yeah I'm still at 2 offers, and the flea is bugging out rn for me. I might need to relog because an offer expired and I already got it back 5 min later and I still can't add an offer

[potent crater]

yah I woudl just try restarting

[crimson wharf]

you need to relog

[potent crater]

WAIT BRO 2 OFFERS THIS WIPE MUST SUCK

[crimson wharf]

why is selling in bulk better?

[echo flower]

define bulk?

maybe because your slots are limited so fewer offers need to be posted at a time?

[crimson wharf]

like selling upwards of 20 wires instead of just selling the 8 you get from the craft

[echo flower]

sometimes people keep a stock for themselves or forget about them lol

I've sold 20 ifaks before

[crimson wharf]

ohhh

[hazy veldt]

did you hit 30?

[echo flower]

no I'm only at 6.8 lol

I wish it was like 1 5 10 20

[hazy veldt]

Yeah that'd be reasonable.

I flea almost everything and I'm only at 15.56 after ~200 hours of raid time.

[foggy stratus]

Flea rep is literally .01 per 40k sold

It isn’t about scaling

Sell more shit, sell higher value shit

That simple

Survive more

Ezpz

[echo flower]

could be about scaling that's a lot of sales to do

[foggy stratus]

Define scaling

In this instance

[echo flower]

like why do you have to sell 120m on the flea in order to get another slot

[foggy stratus]

Define scaling

[echo flower]

also the scaling right now is Reputation Number of offers
From To
-∞ 0.2 1
0.2 30 2
30 70 3
70 150 4
150 500 5
500 1000 6
1000 +∞ 8

[foggy stratus]

I understand how it currently is

Define scaling the way u think it should be

[echo flower]

I did earlier

[foggy stratus]

Well I wasn’t here earlier, so either point me to it or something. Not gunna dig through previous chat

[echo flower]

It's not like you're liquidating you whole inventory after every raid so slots shouldn't be that difficult to come by imo

[hazy veldt]

...literally 3 lines above your first comment?

[echo flower]

It was literally like 2 min before you jumped in

[crimson wharf]

is 7.62x54R PS worth the 1,500 rubles per bullet?

[hazy veldt]

and it's per 0.01 per 50k rubles.

[echo flower]

according to tarkov market they're worth 2.2k

[hazy veldt]

can onetap class 4 in chest, whether that's worth it...depends on your wallet.

[foggy stratus]

And how am I supposed to know that’s what it’s regarding if I’m just jumping into a convo. I see the idea of the convo but I’m not going back to read shit.

[crimson wharf]

they have potential to one tap level 5 and 6 in the chest too right?

[echo flower]

so now you know the scaling

[foggy stratus]

So lemme get this straight, at 5.0 u think there should be 3 max, etc etc

[echo flower]

also the whole inconsistent flea market fee is also messed up

[foggy stratus]

Flea fees have been fucked that I can agree

[echo flower]

5.0 then 10 then 20 then maybe 40

[hazy veldt]

yes, but only 21.2% to first shot pen class 5.

[foggy stratus]

5.0 is waaaay too soon

[echo flower]

its only 3 slots

[foggy stratus]

Maybe a 10,20,30 system

But not 5

[echo flower]

you're not playing a stock market

[crimson wharf]

oh okay

[foggy stratus]

U don’t understand how much faster selling with 3 is then 2

[hazy veldt]

[foggy stratus]

Especially if items hang for a while like certain attachments

[hazy veldt]

yes but that only hurts the casuals.

[echo flower]

you don't think after 25m in sales you shouldnt get another slot?

[foggy stratus]

Hot take but fuck the casuals

[hazy veldt]

Yikes.

[echo flower]

I can't play 8hours per day

[foggy stratus]

U don’t have to

[pure marsh]

:(

[foggy stratus]

I play for 2 hrs at max on a given day and am still 15 levels ahead of the general player base

The game is all about knowing where to loot

[hazy veldt]

2hrs a day is nowhere near casual levels though

And casuals don't know where the loot is.

[foggy stratus]

Define casuals then

[echo flower]

how many wipes have you played cobra?

[crimson wharf]

this gun any good?

[foggy stratus]

This game isn’t designed for 15 min play sessions

[hazy veldt]

Factory begs to differ

[foggy stratus]

This is my 3rd wipe getting kappa quest, one of which getting kappa before xp requirement

I don’t count the wipes before hand

[pure marsh]

The attachments and ammo are. Jesus that's like putting a turbo on a PT cruiser

[foggy stratus]

This isn’t a game designed for casuals keep in mind. It’s a hardcore game designed to punish you whenever it can. Nothing about it says it’s for 1 raid every 3 days

Nothing at all

[hazy veldt]

We'll have to differ on whether that's a good thing or not.

[foggy stratus]

I mean u bought the game knowing it

[crimson wharf]

i killed some goober who had this gun in factory a while back, might use this to get my punisher part 4 kills on Shoreline

[foggy stratus]

Or should have known it before buying it at the very least

It’s in the branding for the game

[hazy veldt]

I'm not really a casual, but I don't think flea slots are a good mechanic.

Casual or not.

[pure marsh]

To be fair, they've made it super casual friendly

[foggy stratus]

I’m Not a fan of the direction at all

[pure marsh]

There used to be no flea, no guides, fuck you scavs, etc

[hazy veldt]

Fuck the elitists who think the game will be alive if casuals stop buying in.

[echo flower]

So this is my first wipe I actually played. First time before this was 2 years prior where flea was like level 7 or something. I can say that having flea at 15 was already a pretty big difference so my experience in this game isn't big, but I played a lot even though I started later in the wipe and there are just some awkwardly optimized segments

[silver hornet]

Flea 15 is fine

[crimson wharf]

Flea 15 is fine

[pure marsh]

I kinda miss the no flea days. It was like early wipe for a hot minute

[foggy stratus]

It should be 20 imo

[smoky moth]

Flea 15 is fine

[echo flower]

I'd prefer flea at 12 or 13

[smoky moth]

cmon now let our lives be easier

[pure marsh]

But there was also no hideout in those days

[foggy stratus]

Flea at 20 would force people to learn spawns for certain keys etc

[hazy veldt]

Not really, you'd just grind factory or scav.

[crimson wharf]

or people should be able to play how they want to

[foggy stratus]

Ironic u say that. Cuz I remember being roasted alive for saying that to a group of rats after having the conversation that W key meta is just a strat they don’t enjoy

[pure marsh]

I'm honestly in the no flea gang but with streets of tarkov. Make it like the GE in RS where you have to take your items to a main hub to sell

[crimson wharf]

that wasn't me

[foggy stratus]

Ik

I’m just finding it ironic

[crimson wharf]

what is W key meta again?

[pure marsh]

Shift+W

[foggy stratus]

No inertia arcade style shift W

Faster paced game

More fun

Less tactical

[echo flower]

net code rewards shift w

[foggy stratus]

My god here we go

[crimson wharf]

I feel like the tactical style is what makes this game fun though

[foggy stratus]

Go back and watch any pvp videos from worrun, willerz or lvndmark and compare it to pvp now

[echo flower]

its true though

[foggy stratus]

Pvp now is boring

[crimson wharf]

No trust me, I've seen old footage

[silver hornet]

Lvndmark's content hasn't changed a bit

[pure marsh]

Facts

[foggy stratus]

It has lol

[silver hornet]

hardly

[foggy stratus]

It’s less pvp driven and more content driven

[silver hornet]

It's a little slower sure but he's still doing the same shit he normally does

[foggy stratus]

Lvndmark used to be the best pvp content creator. Now you’d say hyper rat, tigz etc are

[silver hornet]

The only Tarkov content creator I watch is Lvndmark because I find his content hilarious

[foggy stratus]

Exactly

Content

Not pvp

[silver hornet]

what does his content mainly consist of?

pvp

what kind of braindead take is that

[crimson wharf]

The pvp is still fun though

[foggy stratus]

Easy to claim shit take when ur not watching any other content

Go educate urself before claiming bullshit take

[silver hornet]

because it's a shit take lmao, almost all of Lvndmark's content is pvp

[hazy veldt]

↑

[pure marsh]

Bakeezy is the same

[steep tendon]

i pressed leave game

[pure marsh]

Dudes a monster

[steep tendon]

and now its not fucking elaving

what do i do

what a shit game man LOL

[silver hornet]

garbage game is in fact garbage, yes

[foggy stratus]

Almost like it’s a pvp driven game go figure. I’m saying the pvp styles changed

Big difference

[steep tendon]

like let me leave the game

wtf

[crimson wharf]

I think the only person who I actually watch for like PvP is like 2Lew and Pest and that's it

[steep tendon]

what a terrible game

[silver hornet]

I can't stand Pest

[foggy stratus]

Pest? Pvp?

[hazy veldt]

alt-f4?

[crimson wharf]

not like crazy PvP but it still exists

[foggy stratus]

Maybe for budget or meme builds

[crimson wharf]

first tarkov person i started watching was Sam and he doesn't focus on PvP at all, he is just straight up entertaining

[steep tendon]

i did alt f34

f4

i came back

look

https://gyazo.com/ef99e033d8109de146ca3b964a18f845

[foggy stratus]

General Sam is a rat

[steep tendon]

HAHHAhA this game is DOG

[foggy stratus]

Sam is quite literally the reason for tarkovs problems can’t change my mind

[steep tendon]

there goes a 750k loadout

[foggy stratus]

Moe

Alt f4

[silver hornet]

@steep tendon dog can you go bother #eft-chat with that

[steep tendon]

i did

nah im good bro

[foggy stratus]

Then quit spewin

[pure marsh]

If anything blame the top tier streamers. Pest is in Nikitas pocket

[crimson wharf]

blame them for what exactly?

[foggy stratus]

Nah I mean in the sense he caused a ton of dogshit metas like sitting in bushes etc

Tarkov community are sheep

And he drew on it

[pure marsh]

Pest literally begged for a key barter and they added it

[crimson wharf]

bush camping has legit been a thing in any game that has bushes

[crimson wharf]

which keys?

[pure marsh]

I don't remember man. It was during his hardcore series

It was the only key he couldn't find

[crimson wharf]

do you really think adding a barter for keys has broken the game?

[silver hornet]

Pest complains about the Mosin on a podcast with Nikita? Boom, Mosin gets nerfed. Pest complains that he can't find the AS Val buffer tube adapter during his hardcore series? Barter added.

[pure marsh]

^^

[foggy stratus]

Yeeeeah idk

[untold elm]

what’s a good gun to kit out for cheap?

[crimson wharf]

ahhh, so it isn't just the key its multiple things

[crimson wharf]

how kitted?

[foggy stratus]

Rfb

[merry vapor]

mk 47 mutant

[untold elm]

it needs to be cheap and available

[foggy stratus]

Ur smoking copium

[foggy stratus]

Rfb

[hazy veldt]

Are those things bad though?

[untold elm]

how cheap is the rfb with good mods etc?

[hazy veldt]

100k'ish

[foggy stratus]

Less than 200k

[crimson wharf]

Rfb is good if you are looking a little on the higher end and VPO-Gornostay is nice as well if you can hit shots

[hazy veldt]

*150-200k without traders.

[foggy stratus]

Rfb is just good for everything

[foggy stratus]

Nah sr25 is high end

Rfb is the budget for 308

[untold elm]

i’ve got flea, some traders level 2 i’m just trying to make sure when i go into raid with my high tier friends i can support them in fights etc

[crimson wharf]

rfb is high end for a budget gun

[silver hornet]

the point is, is that Pest has Nikita on speed dial and he'll get the game changed on a whim because of something he doesn't like

it's just the influence that streamers have on this game

[crimson wharf]

is he wrong about these things though?

[foggy stratus]

Sheep community

I’m tellin ya

Trey puts a video out saying UMP is broken

Nonstop UMP users

Pest says MMAC is goated

[silver hornet]

The UMP isn't even broken, it's that BSG can't make recoil for shit even after 5 years

[foggy stratus]

Never ending MMAC boys

People follow the content creators like lost puppy’s

It’s disgusting

[crimson wharf]

UMP is cheap and so is the MMAC though

[foggy stratus]

Idgaf

[hazy veldt]

That's a weird take.

[crimson wharf]

Not saying that that is all I use, but if i find a sewing kit in raid i will def trade it for a mmc

[hazy veldt]

UMP is a great pick early on, especially with knives barter.

[untold elm]

what’s a clothing setup aswell

[foggy stratus]

That doesn’t fucking matter. Ur missing the entire point

[hazy veldt]

MMAC is easiest class4 to get that isn't trash (unless flea prices are good).

[foggy stratus]

Jesus Christ ur actually brainwashed

[hazy veldt]

Good argument.

[silver hornet]

I liked the UMP before it was cool 😔

[crimson wharf]

You think you are some sort of savant because you have different opinions then everyone else

[untold elm]

what’s a good rig to take in? armoured or armour and rig?

[merry vapor]

mmac

[hazy veldt]

Is UMP not dirt cheap? Is MMAC barter not cheap af?

[foggy stratus]

No I think I’m a rationalist who can think for himself using shit that content creators haven’t called meta yet

[hazy veldt]

M2 gang, if the price is 60-65k

[hazy veldt]

So what do you use instead of UMP early levels for SMG?

What's better?

[foggy stratus]

I don’t use smg for one

[merry vapor]

cool!

[crimson wharf]

Yes, because I am going to be taking advice from General Sam the rat boy

[echo flower]

[hazy veldt]

okay? How is that relevant to the question?

[foggy stratus]

??????? U asked what smg I use

I said I don’t use them

Nice argument

Actual braindead

[echo flower]

why not

[crimson wharf]

[hazy veldt]

...actually missing the point.

[merry vapor]

lmao what

[hazy veldt]

some people like smgs

[merry vapor]

😱

crazy

[foggy stratus]

90% of the community used the ump cuz the big streamers did

[hazy veldt]

Evidence?

[merry vapor]

or

[foggy stratus]

U telling me it’s cuz 90% like smgs?

[crimson wharf]

Okay then let's re-phrase the question "If you had no other option than to use an SMG which SMG would you use"?

[hazy veldt]

Or it's because UMP is dirt cheap bullethose?

You think 90% of community watches streamers?

[foggy stratus]

If I had to? Mp7

[crimson wharf]

Yes

[crimson wharf]

Valid

[foggy stratus]

100%

Without a doubt

That’s just a braindead take if u think otherwise

[crimson wharf]

Both of y'all are making valid points

[pure marsh]

I watch the little highlight videos

[hazy veldt]

MP7, you mean a barter that's hard to fill before flea (and gross expensive even with flea) or PK LL3?

[foggy stratus]

I’m not arguing the idea that the ump is bad

I’m arguing the intent of use

[crimson wharf]

That's valid

[foggy stratus]

People are using it under the pretense that it’s good by streamer word

Not by stat

[hazy veldt]

Speculation.

[foggy stratus]

Jesus Christ open ur eyes

[crimson wharf]

Because the same argument he is making could be made for the MP5 if you ask me, but nobody ever uses it as much as people use the UMP

[hazy veldt]

My eyes are wide open, you are speculating.

Did you poll the playerbase as to why they use the UMP?

No?

Didn't think so.

[foggy stratus]

I literally watched a lvndmark video with him using subsonic then saw 5 dudes the next day using the exact same shit

U telling me that’s speculation?

[pure marsh]

Coincidence

[hazy veldt]

• finding data to fit your preconceptions.

[foggy stratus]

Hmm let’s see, I’ve only got the subsonic in my inventory as we speak

Funny

[untold elm]

is the rfb sprayable? i’m looking at some premade loadouts on tarkov market and the recoil is 100+

[foggy stratus]

It’s tap fire is fast af

[crimson wharf]

it can be, it is really good for sniping

[untold elm]

if i can click fast will it be ok against a full auto gun?

[foggy stratus]

I feel like ur playing devils advocate just to be annoying as fuck

[crimson wharf]

lol

[hazy veldt]

Perhaps... it's because... you can only buy subsonics until PK 3?

[pure marsh]

So you copied landmark?

Sheep

[foggy stratus]

Hilarious

[merry vapor]

it like 2 or 3 taps lvl 4 armor with m80, just have to hit them

[hazy veldt]

Like, seriously, Match FMJ is the only .45 acp you can get at LL1, LL2?

[pure marsh]

And lasermatch but not like it's useful

[crimson wharf]

RIP rounds 😈

[pure marsh]

Same brother

Gimme them legs

[foggy stratus]

Who defines the meta

Answer that

[crimson wharf]

The people

[pure marsh]

The community

[crimson wharf]

And who controls the people?

[foggy stratus]

Who do the community listen to

Who do they really listen to

[pure marsh]

This dumbass discord lmao

[crimson wharf]

True, I get most of my info from you guys

[foggy stratus]

Who has a voice in gaming

[hazy veldt]

BSG definces the meta, via the stats.
Streamers popularize 'meta' builds to the casuals.

[foggy stratus]

Ok

[hazy veldt]

Anyone with half a brain can check the data and see "oh, that build is actually dummy good"

[foggy stratus]

So why are u arguing against me

You just clarified my point

Good job

[hazy veldt]

What is your point?

[pure marsh]

I get all my new info from here and I've played forever

[foggy stratus]

.

[hazy veldt]

That streamers share good builds because it gets clicks on youtube?

[crimson wharf]

What was the initial argument anyways?

[foggy stratus]

Streamers popularize meta

Nice going

[hazy veldt]

Yes and?

I'm not sure what you're trying to argue?

[pure marsh]

Idk. I'm just stirring the pot

[foggy stratus]

THATS LITERALLY MY ARGUMENT WITH THE UMP

[hazy veldt]

That streamers shouldn't exist?

[foggy stratus]

Holy shit ur actually daft

[hazy veldt]

But the UMP is actually good?

[crimson wharf]

Cobra, what was the initial argument?

[foggy stratus]

The ump was driven off streamers word that it’s good

Not the stats

[hazy veldt]

That's such a wtf take.

[foggy stratus]

People saw lvndmark pest etc using it, and started using it

[hazy veldt]

If it wasn't good, streamers wouldn't use it.

[crimson wharf]

Now that I'm hearing his argument, he makes some valid points

[pure marsh]

It was hyped up whenever it was added but everyone used the vector instead because of ROF

[foggy stratus]

Do u think people are going to pull up the change log and think UMP GOOD

[hazy veldt]

people with a brain yes.

[pure marsh]

The multi wipers yeah

[foggy stratus]

With how many people got the game, that’s in the minority by a long shot

[hazy veldt]

Yes? That's true with every game?

[foggy stratus]

I’m talking about this recent wipe

[hazy veldt]

the nolifers push the boundaries and data percolates down to the masses.

[echo flower]

patch notes are everything lol

[hazy veldt]

Imagine not reading patch notes

[foggy stratus]

Crazy that’s exactly what I’m arguing with streamers to the ump

How can u not perceive that

[hazy veldt]

I don't understand why you think it's a problem?

It's a fact of life.

[crimson wharf]

the streamers are the nolifers, the only difference is that it's there job

[hazy veldt]

You can't ban streamers from popularizing good builds.

[foggy stratus]

I’m not saying that

[crimson wharf]

The problem is that people are too scared to try anything outside of what the streamers are claiming is good

[foggy stratus]

THANK YOU

Finally

Fucking hell

[crimson wharf]

gameplay becomes stagnant because everyone is using the same thing

[foggy stratus]

Finally someone fucking gets it

[pure marsh]

Ima leg meta guy. I fight for the cause

[foggy stratus]

Aka sheep mindset

[hazy veldt]

I mean... if something is good, that happens.

Is a thing in online games forever, basically.

[foggy stratus]

Not true at all

[echo flower]

Aka a person who doesn't have the time to invest so they rely on others to get the same conclusions they would if they had the time without investing that time

[hazy veldt]

So meta doesn't develop in almost all games?

[foggy stratus]

This wipe has been the most diverse gun wise

[hazy veldt]

has it though?

[foggy stratus]

Yes

[crimson wharf]

True, but I can also just toss some .366 AP-M into my vpo and blow somebodies brains out the other side of their helmet

[hazy veldt]

Or were people just getting used to recoil changes?

[pure marsh]

Tbh tarkov is probably going to go stagnant since it's literally the same thing over and over

For years

[unkempt ingot]

what's the cheapest micro reflex except the pk-06?

[foggy stratus]

The current wipe is most definitely the most diverse given the fact DMRs are so heavily impactful

They’ve always been ok but not this good

By now meta M4s and mutants would be a must

[hazy veldt]

Mmm, DMRs are arguably popular because good ammo is difficult to obtain for semi-casuals or casuals.

[foggy stratus]

Most good ammo is fucked cuz of recoil change

[pure marsh]

Actually thinking about it. I'm surprised tarkov hasn't died. Crazy how it's still going

[echo flower]

Isn't this just a 762 meta because 556 is fucked?

[foggy stratus]

Yes

[crimson wharf]

I've said it once and I will say it again. .366 AP-M

[foggy stratus]

308, 762

[hazy veldt]

what bullethose spits that at full auto?

[foggy stratus]

Don’t need a bullet hose if it 1-2 taps

[crimson wharf]

VPO Gornostay 😈

[pure marsh]

Me and scroll wheel to fire

[foggy stratus]

LOL

[hazy veldt]

Doesn't 1-2 tap vs class 5.

[echo flower]

Wow galaxy brain

[hazy veldt]

.366 is great for budget killing Class4.

[crimson wharf]

not if i throw it in this bad boy

[echo flower]

Scroll lock disabled obv

[hazy veldt]

Well not really, because it costs too much.

When M80 is M80.

[foggy stratus]

M62 > m80

[pure marsh]

Or just use flechette and 3 tap everything

I also don't get how that round is cheap

[foggy stratus]

It’s like the ks23

[crimson wharf]

because you can craft it

cant you?

[echo flower]

Ya

[hazy veldt]

M62 is like 4x? the price? and LL locked.

[pure marsh]

It's always been cheap compared to any other ammo that can do around the same thing

[hazy veldt]

M80 is 2$ from PK LL2.

[foggy stratus]

I guess? But I’ve got it unlocked so I’m using It

It also has recoil reduction so

[crimson wharf]

it is also a shotgun round too though

[hazy veldt]

Yes, but it's not a budget option.

[foggy stratus]

Never claimed it to be

[hazy veldt]

The discussion was about ap-m...

and budget...

[pure marsh]

So is AP20 and it sold for 1k+

[foggy stratus]

Was it tho? Don’t recall

[crimson wharf]

You can legit snipe people with AP20 though

[foggy stratus]

Don’t shit on AP20, that shits perfect

They nerf ap20 ima send a fat paragraph to bsg

[pure marsh]

I wasn't. I'm saying that I don't get why flechette is under 400 roubles most days

[foggy stratus]

Oh yeah idk

It should be 600 easily

[hazy veldt]

people craft to sell because can't math.

[foggy stratus]

Ap20 was like 1200 a round

[crimson wharf]

At the end of the day Flechette isn't that good because it is a shotgun round

[pure marsh]

But it's always been like that since it was added. Name a cheap ammo that can do the same thing

[foggy stratus]

Cap

[pure marsh]

Take that back

[foggy stratus]

Load into a raid with me and I’ll prove to you a “shotgun round” can 1 tap you from 100 meters

[crimson wharf]

AP20 is better

[foggy stratus]

Ap20 is a shot gun round

[pure marsh]

By what standard?

[crimson wharf]

but it is one solid round

[foggy stratus]

It’s fired out of a shotgun

Therefor it is indeed a shotgun round

Logic

[hazy veldt]

AP-20 is too expensive for what it does, unless you want to DMR with it.

[crimson wharf]

Still, it essentially turns your shotgun into a DMR

[hazy veldt]

Which is valid for some quests.

But Flechette existing makes it kinda 'eeh.

[foggy stratus]

Lemme ask u this, do u play the game all the time thinking about budget?

[silver hornet]

Wrong

Flechette is fun to use

[crimson wharf]

Fun to use != good

[pure marsh]

AP20 is outclassed by M80

[silver hornet]

you are once again wrong

[foggy stratus]

Not as funny. when you watch them fold from 100 meters to a shotgun round

[crimson wharf]

something being fun can add to the experience, but it isn't everything

[hazy veldt]

Yes, tarkov is about killing people while making bank.

[rain wing]

sperformance is the best shotgun shell vro

[foggy stratus]

U can do both while enjoying nice guns that aren’t 150k roubles max

[hazy veldt]

That said, Slugs are super underrated for range.

[pure marsh]

Cap

[hazy veldt]

But I'd rather run RFB for ranged work on a budget.

[rain wing]

😩

[crimson wharf]

Only time I think I have run slugs other than AP20 is for punisher part 4

[pure marsh]

You shouldn't be able to hit shit with the God awful MOA

[rain wing]

7mm gaming 😎

[hazy veldt]

There's no MOA.

[pure marsh]

On slugs? Yes. Buckshot? No

Gigabeef and myself have tested it

[foggy stratus]

Not gunna lie you are hands down the most boring individual I’ve ever seen on this discord

[crimson wharf]

anyone wanna play shoreline?

[hazy veldt]

Ok and?

[rain wing]

well some people might find that fun 🙏

who knows lmfao

[foggy stratus]

Ah yes sticking to 2 guns an entire wipe. But look at my fat rouble count! Fun!

What do u have to show for it

Pixels