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tf is the answer
Does anyone know
idek how to figure the question out
no clue lmao, bit confused how you'd find out?
wait a minute i might know how to get the answr
this ???
What trader
any clues on how we would figure this out?
nope date
that sjust the amount of raids you did lol
probably something in the hideout idek
Has anyone got the answers @idle bluff
no
how about no
is it a ingame thing or online?
are they referring to what the current time and day is in the fictional tarkov world rn?
the date in which u load into the raid on
it literally says to dm him
"Be sure to DM me the answer"
I was reading quick and didnt see it
does anyone know
What is your answer?
I get it I dont need 3 ppl to tell me
4/19/2100
dm him
I already did
Clearly you do
the game is set at around 2028
yeah but you need date too
ik
i only know the 2028 part
yeah but it never says the day or month
between 2016-2026
12/19/2027
thats cap
fake guarantee it
What is the 19th month of the year?
use normal dates then lmao
murica
for us its MM/DD/YYYY
Who tf uses DD/MM/YYYY
MM/DD/YYU
Wait
the entire rest of the world
Guys
WHAT
I have a feeling that it’s something you can only find out with certain cosmetics
didn't you know the US just does everything difficult for no reason?
Why on earth would you do it like that
why wouldnt you do it like that
I've been getting every date format possible
Because that's how we were taught here
u mean graphics?
is tarkov set on one date or does it cycle?
What about MM/YYYY/DD
the time cycles
one day i think hence the question
not the date
Year is 2019
just stop... please
Are they right?
YYYY/HR/DD/MM
Lol
it hurts my brain to think about the people that use DD/MM/YY
No I mean cosmetics that’s why I said it
:🤮
yeah but it’s correct technically lol
Well
It hurts my brain to think about the people that use mm/dd/yyyy
Ikr
it hurts my brain to think about the people that use DD/MM/YY
Look i'm gonna spoil the answer because i dont know russian but i'm certain its in the RAID series
dd/mm/yy is correct mm/dd/yy is better
^^
what does cosmetics mean in this context
but the first part is cap
The raid series happens over multiple days tho
i skimmed through the whole movie and couldnt find anything
same
What is the only cosmetic item in the game that you can see on yourself
fuck if i know
the calendar in the hideout says 2016 but doesnt give and specific date
Your wrist watch
date is in 2028 idk the rest
Which changes based on which cosmetic you wearing
its before 2028
this game leads up to russia 2028 it isnt 2028
No it not
2026-2028 pretty sure
So I’m assuming one of the watches has a date on it
calender in hideout says 2016
But I’m not spending millions of rubles trying to find out
I offered a lab key
fuck
Show us a SS
says 2014 for me
mine has it but i cant see it lol
2016 makes sense
the raid movie says the conflict started after 2015
no date tho
howd u find that out
I asked him
oh
Ok so everyone just ask him what year it is any year from 2015-2028
Then we move on to month
@jagged laurel then what is it
how much would a ledx and defib be worth together
My watch but i cant read it
Everyone just ask him
just asked toast it is NOT the 6th
THE GAME LIES
bro this requires some investigative skills
When the next question is asked, I'll have to close this one.
is there any calendar ingame?
hideout
not the hideout
but doesn't have a date
this is impossible wtf
on any map
no hints? :(
are we able to have a hint
Hint
Hint please
UwU
i feel like i remember one in new gas
hint
Hint please
but not sure lol
ill check
ima start running
theres this
id be thinking like interchange office
already asked he said its not 2014
nor is it 2016
There are absolutely no calendars in labs, I scoured the map
not even in dark offices?
or cat or manager?
no
the reward for this shouldve been red card for 1 person
its probably some calender on a map
lmao
wow
not wednesday, monday or the 26th
HINT
someone check factory office
Not there either
ill check
just go offline mode with stims
already did not there
I did
rip
Nothing
checking interchange rn
checking factory rn
checking customs
the one question where we work together lols
this is one we dont get
they went all out on this one
checked interchange nothin there
legit haha
dam i have tried so hard for something like this
I checked scav island
listen if one of us gets it at this point, they gotta give us all a code lul'
already checked
And traders
ngl after like 10 minutes its just not worth to look more
i want to know the answer when it’s over
never*
lol
same
they'll tell us i assume lmao
I'm going to close the question a little early. The answer is 1 August, 2018.
how do you see it?
where do you find that?
huh
damn
Wat
how do you find that out
release date?
where was it?
How do you find that?
too late not 2018
no release was 2016
wwhere was the answer
why close it as well we where gonna find it eventually lol
Yup
I got 2018
where can you actually find this in game or in lore files?
I got 2018
I looked at the lore files
that was about it
where is the lore files
I got too guessing august before he closed it
lore files where?
wiki if that counts , they have some info on raids and shit
Big sadge
not really lore ig
ikr
gonna enlist 4chan
we’re so good, took us 20 minutes to not find it
I just wanna know where that info was from kek I searched everywhere for the date
better than 90 minutes to not look at rubbish
Yes
nah the rewards are pretty good, I got the mechanic barter tx-15, gen4 HMK and a labs entry card
the questions seem pretty tedious for all that
I guess it isn't watching a stream for 2 hours so idk
can't really choose what you get
the one I got was super easy, which was how many mounted guns are on reserve, which was 7
kinda new anyone wanna play customs
Which skiier quest introduces me to peacekeeper?
friend from the west part 2
now i feel really dumb skipping through several hexagon medium rails because i just found a hex red in a wooden crate
this hand guard is the most wild shit i've seen in game
most american handguard
it's honestly a useless mod, cause you can't put a grip or tac-light on it.
How many hidden stashes does Shoreline have?
43 i think
i might be thinking of something else or im completely wrong ill check
40
40\
KK
What is this?
Also i just got a labs access keycard and intelligence folder when i spawned in as a scav
whats the best buffer tube stock?
advanced or advanced red
im not running this until i get flea for bp but i need some more recoil control for it
for AKs you'll want either the stock stock with a buttpad or the Zhukov/PT-3
for biggest recoil control benefit you'll want to swap the muzzle, handguard, and foregrip in that order
The polymer stock gives slightly better ergo with 1 slightly more recoil.
I had the stock stock with a buttpad im just wondering if this is better
The original stock with buttpad is suprisingly effective
definitely not from a cost perspective. You can check in the modding screen
i think i sold my pt3 sadly
Oh hey its you hi ank
hi
also from that factory raid they took my ak instead of my ulach for some reason
got it back from insurance
you should also swap the handguard for one of the vs combos probably
I find them pretty good for the money
that's assuming flea though
i might run it with a hex red i found if i keep finding more red med rails
also should i put a hex suppressor on it? i dont actually know how ass it is vs a compensator
anybody tryna help me with disease history? im not tryna buy a 400k key
Lmfao what?
idk why they took my mediocre ak instead of my undamaged ulach
and then he extracted so no pscavs could spawn in to take it
whats a good akm recoil amount
virtex flash drive modules and rfidr readers do they spawn on reserve?
craft it
does ps hurt paca armor?, apperently it pierced straight through
yes it does
virtex does, rfid is only labs iirc
Paca is garbage
it serves its purpose
its purpose is to stop you from being one tapped by 7mm mp 133s
to the thorax
it’s the same price as a press armor
on customs?
damn nice
under 70 is very good
where you're sitting is decently usable
I got it lower because I found an rk 2
b-33 rail limits foregrip options btw
Now recoil is like 69
Nope
I've just made it a goal to do a lot of reserve weapon mod runs
Definitely is too good for ps
should do more tasks to hit 15
I'm not going to abuse it like that I'm waiting for flea to put bs gs
you mean bs gzh?
bs gs is 5.45
Yeah I re read what I said
as long as you don't make that oops when buying 👍
I already have like 200 bs gs rounds from my reserve runs lol
Shturman and his guards.
be careful going passed it, Shturman will spot you from half a mile away and then 360 aimbot you lol
IK
im like
super far away
and get spotted
He will shoot off 3-5 warning shots while you're outside range, but his guards will just tap you.
i recommend using ranged scope to try and pick them off
what is this
i havent had a good expereince with it
if you dont then just sell it to trader
ah ok thanks
bro its to late lmao
it sells 150k on market
dang
speaking of getting clapped by that dickhead, he made ZERO sound and just killed after i killed both of his guards. audio is so god damn scuffed in this game man
it would wipe before I have flea so I ain't bothered
I got it off a scav so it ain't no biggie
@bold kernel yeah wipe should be soon bro
uuhhhh mods?
how we still do not have report system on Discord I wonder
@idle bluff@shell citrusmods?

They're removed from the server
yes shturman, if he sees you before you see him it's a very difficult fight
as soon as you peek he will headeyes you
if you see him before he sees you, you should just run
but it is the most easiest one once you know where he is
toast check your dms
i spawned in as as scav on factory and snuck up on someone on the bridge, unloaded 2/3 of my mag and he didnt die
probly xmas
as val + vudu actually kinda works, should I use it?
he probs had decent armor, and scav bullets have fucking awful pen
probably, he looked thic and clueless
i stood there for a good 5 secs before shooting
he had that killa helmet
o
maybe let meta
most scav ammo can leg meta
can someone help me with the introduction quest i dont know woods well im stuck
am new (kinda 😉 ) help me
Hey, just wanted to ask: I want to buy eft, is it worth waiting for black friday since I want to buy the cheapest one?
it will go down, just wait
im only one with it on flea rn
it cost much leass as i remember
this is why you wait, you COULD get lucky and sell it with high price, but what usually happebn - you post max price on emply flea, and then immeditely 10 people post less price
damn
post it already?
yeah lol
rip the fee )
197k fee
this is, if I am remember correctly, much more that it is actual price was
just check tarkov-market website
i did
this thermal is ok, sells about 500k
also a bitcoin but gave to a freind
he was poor
well, maybe I am wrong and it went in price and you was right, lets see. I did not find or buy this key in a long time
ok
it sold
nice how much
geez nice
congrats!! love being wrong here
lol
looks like this key went in price recently
couple of cheeky woods kills
no way not the timmies
considering the only kills I get are my teammates its good for me
Always one knobhead scav player just killing everything
Is a p90 considered budget or nah?
p90 is expensive because of the ammo.
Its 9x19 right?
i would say m856a1
Bruh on the p90 cal....
do u have pk 3
Not yet
then don’t use p90
lol why say 545 then
simple
what type of 545
ignore that i misread it
I was about to say ^^
but yea no there is not really an ammo type in between thats pretty useable
can someone help me at a quest ?
According to wiki thats just the better round pen and dmg wise compared to ss190
Code question
Which branch of the US military is/was the playable USEC operator in?
All codes sent!
Love those questions. Absolutely not answerable for new people, but oh well the last event wasnt for newer people either so whatever xD
?
which one?
dm'd. here's hoping i'll make it 1/3
oh, you mean - help like come with you, sry
Resort is always painful ) not loving it
wrong
49 dmg 37 pen vs 54 dmg 35 pen. So uggh idk about you but id rather pick the one with more dmg in this case
SB193 is slow tho
i got it right even tho i didint know it and i just quessed
the thing with those rounds is that they are hella expensive so if you havent unlocked them yet then idk if its worth it
SS190 is just what you should use
I'd use ss190 in like p90 and might use SB193 with the 5-7 it just depends if you're willing to spend another dollar at peacekeeper or more on the flea
ss190 is generally better
It is
what was the last event again?
easy
As if friend from the west wasnt pain enough, i have to go full ham on peace afterwards roo right?
The halloween stuff.
Nah
then it definitely would be harder
I just wanna have peace lvl 3....
syrreal hasn't responded....
Survive and extract every map without dying
lol
But i canr even start on it because i have to kill usecs and hand in their dogtags ffs
Yea.... Idk about that
High risk, high reward type thing
Yea that pretty much describes factory
i need somebody to coach me
What exactly do you mean by coaching?
Btw factory. Farming pt requires tool kits or whatever theyre called. But i need to fix two of those thingies, is one kit enough for both?
i don't know if the dogtags need to be found in raid but if you go factory try and scoop the dogtags after you kill a USEC and put it in your container
You new to the game?
you need 2
i took a big brake from the game
Nope, theyre used
so if you die the tags might still count I have no clue tho
Nothing mentions fir
Oh ffs
im know the basics but i cant improve
rainy whats your lvl?
Literally uses almost all my beta container as theyre at 15k and losing them everytime gets pricey
It takes a ton, a ton of time to get better in tarkov.
i found loot lord plushie how much is it
find some poeple to go in with for 1 raid
but how can i get better if i dont evaven get the chance to stay in raid for more than 3 min
what maps do you play?
customs
I mean the task technically isnt hard. Its more that i got lost on the way and ran into killa and the madlad bopped me....
try shoreline or woods
ok
what was the answer for the branch of the us military ? 😮
ye i get it, but see in the lfg chat and mby you can find like 1 or 2 boored peopel that can assist you for a raid
my game sound is also really bugged most of the time i dont hear shots or PMCS
try to 5 man load into factory, that way there's only possibly 1 other PMC
ty @pine ore
makes it very easy to get that done
i just see light and the next thing i see is the screen that says YOURE DEAD
How long does it take you to load into raid?
Yea... Ill pass on the lfg part. Not the best experiences made in there
I don't really know what's going on then
cause I was thinking maybe you had long load times cause I have a friend who takes 30mins to load and he gets bopped by scavs since he spawned miles away
my scavs also dont make noise they just shoot
30mins? What the hell is he playing on? A toaster?
yes
and it only takes 2 shots one in the leg i cant move and the second 1 is always in the head
Thats scavs for you bud
and i dont eaven hear the mscream anything i jusst die
You dont always scream when you die iirc
OHHH
Not how I found it to be fair 😂
i was to late lol
Ahh there'll be more
Will Tarkov run on TempleOS?
what the fuck is that
its what my PC runsins instead of windows
interesting
In 20 years of pc gaming i have never heard of templeOS.
Is this some pc ordered on wish or someth?
No I built it myself, I had my youth minister help me and he said this runs the best

Id recommend getting win10. Not a youth minister just long time gamer
^ best bet
i think the man is memeing, but i honestly can't tell.
It was apparently last updated in 2017.
Im really not sure if hes trolling or not, and at this point im afraid to ask
how are people selling weapon cases on the flea when it cant be fir?
"TempleOS (formerly J Operating System, LoseThos, and SparrowOS) is a biblical-themed lightweight operating system (OS) designed to be the Third Temple prophesied in the Bible."
There are barters for it iirc
from quest completeion
ah
pretty sure you can find them from marked rooms, no?
or quests
nope
Ohh thats new for me thx
I get 90 fps on GTA
Uhmmm
Vice city?
I've honestly never heard of it, but if it works for you man, all the power to you.
no, gta V\
tarkov runs on temple os
bet
What does biblical themed lightweight os even mean?
Its minimalistic for better power efficiency and its biblical themed bc life is easier when you have the power of god and anime on yourside
Welp whatever tickles your pickle good sir. Glad for you it runs on this os. Tarkov is.... Fun :)
why wont this work for gunsmith 16
Your recoil sum might be too much
stock?
Check that
The wiki uses a different stock that's the main thing I can tell the difference between
remove ammo from gun
Is there a way to make tarkov not bind your mouse to the screen tarkov is on?
Try Window mode
But... Fullscreen... Performance and stuff
i just started a raid and my audio is randomly glitching out
occational static and double footsteps when running
happens to me alot the static noise, even some laggy, need to restart the game, and its annoying but it starts when we are going in one game 😦
any idea to real cause?
started happening when they updated to unity 2019. Only way to fix it is to close game and relaunch, which can be tricky when alone in raid.
meh, the slight difference in fps
is worth being about to tab out
Dumb ass question. Is there a way to have the game open automatically on my secondary screen instead of having to run it on borderless window and win+shift+> it?
you'd have to change which is considered your primary monitor
I figured. That’s what I was trying to avoid
I have other games I can adjust the screen default
But obv not the games I want to do it for
Why would you want it on your 2nd monitor tho?
I have a 3 screen set up and my secondary is my primary gaming monitor while screen 1 runs my discord and browser and screen 3 runs my OBS and bots
Plus start menu on same screen as game bothers the shit out of me
So its 1 2 3 instead of 2 1 3
Currently, yeah
pen is everything… that 2 pen difference in a PDW caliber means one extra shot to go through some of the better armor
also sb is subsonic
I noticed the subsonic part late. But another bullet to go through higher armor doesnt bother me on a p90 fire rate tbh
yea but you’re not gonna just sit there and shoot at people
when's the saturday event
Uhm yes i do, thats what i usually try to in tarkov....as its a shooter?
the point is that ttk is what can keep you alive
higher pen means less bullets meaning better ttk
and less time being shot at
Its a single bullet difference.... Gratned a bullet is a bullet. But at that rof i really wouldnt care if it wasnt subsonic
the round you were looking at is decent budget
but the rounds overall aren't too expensive
Hey. how much is a twitch rivals half mask worth?
if you sit there you’d die…
I mean theyre subsonic. And i really dont like subsonic rounds overall
personnel preference
it’s a pdw it supports a run and gun playstyle
especially considering that ss190 is mediocre at best
I'd say it's a bit over mediocre
they’re gonna pen and kill you first, you can’t let that happen
Mediocore is exactly what im looking for. As those are the bullets that dont get you brok but are still viable
and cheaper mostly
??
run the mp7
why seek out medicore when u can pay the same amount and go for best performance
Isnt that like the equivalent to the m4? As in expensive to mod plus ammo is expensive too?
the p90 is more of a fun gun than a good gun for the money
no
you need one or two mods
if any
u need an eye and that’s it
Grip, sight, suppressor, laser?
yellow mp7 needs a grip
done
how can someone new (100 hours) get better at pvp
mp7a1 doesn't need a grip
yes get the black stuff
suppressor is option, a2 needs foregrip but not a1, laser is optional, and sight is only real need
Play more. No way around that. Get more outside information, guides etc. But pvp is getting uses to it
think i watched every guide on youtube soon
Wait there are two mp7?
mp7a1 and mp7a2
one takes a foregrip
for better stats
yeah, one with a built in grip and one that doesn't
just keep loosing rubles right now
neither REALLY needs it
Learn from every gunfight you get into.
and suppressor is really just an option
Ok wait so i should go for the brown or the black one?
also, almost all of the ammo except action sx is preeeetty good for it
basic recoil is controllable
but the real catch is that fmjsx ss190 sb193 is all pk3 so you have no reason not to run mp7 all the time anyway
Its more a qol as solo yk
black is cheaper, brown has more mod options
also, it's an smg
generally kind of quiet anyways
also: vss
20 rounders are fine
Nah 40k for a 30mag that i personally need.
Easy lootable gun
then do the plier trade
im getting stressed about loosing rubles every time i die as well i think that is affecting my ingame mentality
true
rat run
And vss mostly have shitty durability if you dont wanna pay double the price where you might aswell get a val
take the shitty durability
60+ is fine
shitty dura doesn’t matter
it's a bullet hose
ayo u tryna play sum ?
who need accuracy?
Yea it just causes malfunctions like crazy, but that doesnt matter right
gun go bbrrrrrr
malfunctions have been cut more than in half
% wise
But vss dps is crazy yeah
they rarely happen now
haven’t seen a jam complaint thread on reddit for months
Oh they do??? Ive had TWO in two mags dude...
me too
you have shit luck
Yea you bet i do
run the mp7 then if it bothers you
Ok so black mp, sight on it, suppressor eventually and im good?
🤷♂️
yeah but you might know
just a front sight post and no eye
Mp7 supperesor is expensive than mp7
try it
literally any round but action sxz
i run a few mags through shooting range to draw out the bad malfunction luck, and use the failstacks to make sure it doesn't happen mid-fight kekw
and yuou'll do right
Whats the cal? Same as p90 righr?
I see somebody goes for superstition fallacies
it's worked so far 😎
Oki thx
it's so easy to put into a 1x2 slot
I've gotten it back several times
Yea i figured that
wow that's weird
I've had more instances of death in which my kit will come back
vs won't
at the cost rates
it only needs to come back 1 in 12 times
Can someone quickly check the price on fmj sx?
to be worth insurance
But it peacekeeper
Not yet
it only 3doller for peacekeeper
it's about 1400 per round on flea, or $4 from PK
Thank you.
spp round can kill slick within 6~7 round
even sp6 can with like 10
And thats why id rather bring a 30 mag on the vss and thats 40k usually and thats way too much. Id rather spend that on overpriced ammo on the flea
well 20 is enough by 1vs 1
From a personal experience yes i do. But im sure you know my aim better than i do
and reload speed is pretty fast
But if you engaging multiple and boom
nikita buff mcx please
why even full modded gun recoil is 58
Sure. You gonna pay for it?
The base gun is 45+ dude
maybe 60 if you're splurging for good attachments
and vss modding doesn't cost to much too
No modding doesnt cost much but theyre at 50ish durability most of the time...
Well even 100 durability can't 100% prevent you from malfunction
jam rate won' be notably higher
I beg to differ as someone has shown me the difference between 50 and 100
So if you jammed, just your luck
accuracy won't be noticebly worse
not on the vss
they haven't
the vss in this game is designed as the gun
that don't give a wit
about durability
just aim in their general direction and hold left click
you'll go through slicks
or more likely
lucky head tap
and over 900 rpm
Yea with sp6 or better thats hella expensive aswell
not really
Why is this man recommending subsonic for the mp7, just get fmj or ap sx rest is useless
around the same price as m856a1
subsonic is a laser is why
and quiet af
that's about it
Noone recommended subsonic tho iirc
first 6~7round with subsonic and rest fmj = no recoil
that includes sub
Have you tried?
And dont forget if you want to run the black mp7, you gotta use the suppressor or the recoil is shit
#metagaming
not really
Lool how tf opinions start to difder
Wtf am i supposed to believe now??
the people who have actually used the build
I have eod, youre gonna believe me?
Yea? Wrong i lied. Its as simple as that. And i have to believe someone in here xD pls dont troll
lol, just use a vss
it's performance outstrips it's price
the downsides are far outweighted by it's strengths
Sr25 was my go to when i had the cash
did you use m80?
I mean I don't use the mp7 too much since I only use the mk47 or m4 since you know I like to win my gunfights
Toploaded m62 and the rest m80
worse pen than vss
Yea good for you. Im a beginner so thx but no thx for meta trash thats 300k uowards just for the gun
m4 round keep nerfed by its price
Ive trashed mutants with ps and a base ak
and mutant is super alte game
Ps?
Ps gzh
and marginally worth it
mutant isn't THAT late game.
Worse recoil tho, so don't fit aswell for labs gaming
max skier and max mechanic ?
The base gun is 100k dude...
I can build a modded vss or rpk for less
guess you need to work on that then huh
you can make 100k easily from scav raids just by selling what you spawn in with
not everybody is good at the economics part
Yeah,especially newcomers
oh trust me i know. until about 2 weeks ago i was averaging about 100k roubles in my stash at any point. i had to scav 2-3 times just to run a pmc
Im getting used to make money with scavs just about now. Im still not wasting it on a weapon thats 300k properly modded. Not even ammo included
ouch bro
Rfb was my go to after sr25 but i have to hit dorms and factory for quests and i suck with dmrs in cqc
get your workbench upgraded and start crafting BP, it's really cheap and easy to craft.
vss is your cqc option
well rfb is for post wipe weapon tactic
2 green and 2 blue gunpowder for 180 rounds of BP.
What you need to buy for rfb is just 11000 doller for peacekeeper
Rfb is 480ish dude
I've had a consistent 1k+ BP stockpile for about 2 weeks now.
+480 sry man
not for everybody
Thx for your input but i think ill pass on the 762 valiber this wipe.
Ik its the be all end all round but not with my budget.
it is still pretty good, but other options exist
no, that's m61
I'd honestly recommend running P90's, Vectors and MP7's over 7.62.
bp is hella good
There is a reason im dying 90% of the time to bp tho
but it isn't an m61
now m61 basic price is even 20$ holy
bp fucks low lvl armor like no tomorrow
but has fall off on chads
m61 don't care
it just kills
well i think m80 can do the same
M61 is 3k on flea usually. Im only using those when i find some lol
craft again
but also, worth the money
M80 is the budget round i like the most
m80 is aight
Mdr dude
You can full auto all day
mdr is 80-100k
I said mostly dude
Thats the issue xD
and we don't talk about the sa-58
The fal?
yes
yeah but i never use sa-58 by its low ergo
nerfed into the ground
Heard so
I could craft. . 45 ap technically
45 vector is meta changer
1100rpm with ap round
but very good
I think the main problem with the 45 vector is ammo availability
usually
can destroy even 6 class within 16round
Ahh ffs. Why did i have to start this late into the wipe. Im behind on every fucking thing
and 30 rounders at a higher rpm
yeah ammo is only problem
is a bit ouch
I can craft that
what lvl workbench?
Workbench lvl 2
thats why vector ssuck in the first place lmao
wat?
eat ammo instantly
no you can't
Kektors 
wrong round
Or was it 9x19 ap?
yeah
45 ap can't craftable
Bad round then?
nah 6.3 is meta for 9x19 non-leg meta
But the other vector i have to buy on flea then
you can use mp5-sd for budget no recoil gun
or the vecctor
for a build around 120
Might aswell go full legmeta with quake or rip no?
mpx is best 9x19 imo
quake
mp5sd or mp5 is underrated
rip is too expensive
No im not touching the mp5 ever again


