beginners-assistance

[cosmic tinsel]

sometimes i just wanna play without bein "on", yakno

[unborn compass]

ogey i need to get some quests going

[cosmic tinsel]

but i always check when i get ttved to say ggs

[manic horizon]

yeah same

[unborn compass]

same i have to check if they are a chad so i feel better

[bold kernel]

yeah I understand but the guy isn't even on twitch there's no one with that name ;-;

[cosmic tinsel]

i got nuked by like, a literal 11 year old in factory

[manic horizon]

i got killed by Lupo on satuday while i was questing lol

[dawn geyser]

lol instead of saying ggs

[cosmic tinsel]

it didnt feel great

[dawn geyser]

You should say

If you drop my gear i'll drop you a follow

[manic horizon]

haha

[dawn geyser]

👏

[cosmic tinsel]

i'll go broke before i beg

😉

honestly i find a lot of people offer to drop shit for me

[dawn geyser]

There isn't honor in a world with exfil campers and hatchet runners

[cosmic tinsel]

100%

[dawn geyser]

Money hatchet runners* more specifically

I do not mind quest hatchet runners at all

[unborn compass]

i never ask people to drop my stuff , cuz my stuff i run sucks anyways

[unreal horizon]

the more uncommon variant, the combat hatchet runner

[dawn geyser]

LOL

Combat Rat 🐀

[cosmic tinsel]

ive been taking cultist knives to factory

[unborn compass]

i did a hatchet run on interchange and popped a stim ran upstairs and got a tetrius and gpu

[unreal horizon]

honestly thats commendable (the cult)

[manic horizon]

i knifed a guy yesterday with it, I died but i took satisfaction in knowing he probably did too hahhaa

[cosmic tinsel]

its worth it for the one stab i get every like, 4 attempts

knowing that they're gonna be like "what the fuck is this"

[manic horizon]

"why am i losing 10 health a second"

[dawn geyser]

pops a propital to see health going down

[unborn compass]

i got stabbed by a poisen knife in woods with no gear and i had a heart attack

and had to pay 50k to fix my illness F

[manic horizon]

hence i always have an antidote on woods/shoreline at night

[dawn geyser]

Should bring milk =p

[cosmic tinsel]

anyone know of a good cultist hunting tutorial

[dawn geyser]

Can help fight against the dark arts

[cosmic tinsel]

looking for something to do in my post kappa retirement

[dawn geyser]

(I'm not memeing - bring milk if you try and fight cultists)

[manic horizon]

its not that hard really

just gotta find them

then shoot

[cosmic tinsel]

LOL

[bold kernel]

ok so I have some gear fear
Should I take this to customs or will the tarkov gods notice that am thicc and instantly head,eyes me

[cosmic tinsel]

use whatever you're willing to lose

[manic horizon]

you will get dead very soon if you go geared. its how Nikita wills it

[unborn compass]

what bullets do you run with vector?

[bold kernel]

idk if I'm willing to lose it..

[vague oak]

looks like ap

[bold kernel]

ap 6.3 which costs me more than the gun lol

[manic horizon]

AP6.3 is most cost efficient

[craggy sapphire]

I got a oli logistic key

[manic horizon]

good job man

[craggy sapphire]

Is it good?

[manic horizon]

keep it for a quest

[craggy sapphire]

Okay

[manic horizon]

its 500k on flea

[cosmic tinsel]

its pricey. i might consider running budget stuff until you're ready to go big

[manic horizon]

but its an early quest

[dawn geyser]

Logistics office?

Where did you find it LOL

[craggy sapphire]

Yes

[dawn geyser]

Just on a scav?

[craggy sapphire]

Stash

[manic horizon]

nice one

[dawn geyser]

interesting.

[manic horizon]

Keep it

[bold kernel]

fuck it I have 3 mil ama just take it to interchange and pray 🙏

[dawn geyser]

Lucky guy

[craggy sapphire]

Ik

:D

[manic horizon]

but yeah its not exactly a "loot" room, there is 1 pc and some loose bleach/paper spawns

[worldly jungle]

guys i bought guns from fence thinking they were good and now im broke

[bold kernel]

is there any beginner lfg chat

[dawn geyser]

[bold kernel]

fence is bad don't

[dawn geyser]

Nope just have to join the voice chats down here and ask everyjuan

[manic horizon]

there is a sherpa hub discord, with one

[dawn geyser]

^true

[tight spire]

hoping this is the right chat
is this a good key?

[dawn geyser]

Yes

[manic horizon]

do you play woods

[dawn geyser]

Not expensive but good to have

[bold kernel]

It's not worth much but it's for a woods extract

[manic horizon]

unlocks an extract

[bold kernel]

hmmmm

[manic horizon]

yeah its saved my ass a few times

the key^^

[bold kernel]

Is level 18 still considered newb

[tight spire]

i dont play woods no
is it a good map?

[bold kernel]

no

[manic horizon]

it is very good now

[craggy sapphire]

yeah

HElla loot spawns

[vague oak]

you can get 5.45 60 round mags from that bunker too.

[bold kernel]

fuel too

[tight spire]

guess ill hold onto the key then, thanks

[manic horizon]

yeah great loot. easy to survive. easy boss to kill

win win win

[cosmic tinsel]

love woods now

[dawn geyser]

I agree with Perhaps

[manic horizon]

yep become one of my fav's since the expantion

[vague oak]

i swim in sugar and vodka, thanks woods.

[manic horizon]

yeah man

[dawn geyser]

I love getting head eyes from 200m across the map

[manic horizon]

its not for everyone

[dawn geyser]

Yeah it's not

Preference

[manic horizon]

exactly

[bold kernel]

so fucking big... If you don't have a splint but have a fractured leg you can just go ahead and kill yourself unless you have 20m of holding W to spare

[dawn geyser]

Playstyle

[manic horizon]

like i dont do reserve at all, but interchange is my bitch

[tight spire]

is woods optimized well?

[manic horizon]

one of the easier maps to run yeah

[dawn geyser]

[tight spire]

oh ok phew

[bold kernel]

source: been there done that

[tight spire]

yeah ill definitely try the map soon

[dawn geyser]

Shoreline Reserve are the maps you have to worry about running

[unborn compass]

i never even tried out shoreline bouta try it now

and kill everyone

[cosmic tinsel]

love shoreline but my buddys pc struggles w it

[manic horizon]

i'd stay clear of the resort for a few raids lol

[unborn compass]

i got that 2070 super

[cosmic tinsel]

you'll be fine

[dawn geyser]

I got scammed, I bought the 2080 Ti then the 30 series came out 2 months later

Then I bought the 3090

[cosmic tinsel]

bahahaha

[unborn compass]

yeah thats tuff

[bold kernel]

r i c h

cries in 1080, i5 9600k

[unborn compass]

but the 20s series arent being sold rn for good prices

look up how much a 2070 is rn

[dawn geyser]

[unborn compass]

its like 1300 on amazon and 900 on newegg lol

[bold kernel]

what's the droog that makes you run a marathon and get them gpus

[cosmic tinsel]

sj6

[dawn geyser]

Blue'

Almost typed sjw

LMAO

[unborn compass]

blue and white thingy

[bold kernel]

lol

sj6 ok

[unborn compass]

cost like 64k

[bold kernel]

@rocky stone adars do be pogs

[unborn compass]

what ammo shoul;d i use for adar?

[dawn geyser]

55a1 or 995

[rocky stone]

Depends

Cheap ammo is m55 not a1

[dawn geyser]

56a1 could do too if you cant get access to those two

[bold kernel]

m856a1 is my goto
Cheap, does it's job

[cosmic tinsel]

856a1 is not good but its... good enough to get thru helmets

[rocky stone]

Only good on scavs

Or if you can consistently get headshots

[unborn compass]

ogey lemme right that down

wait which one lol

[cosmic tinsel]

855a1 first choice

[rocky stone]

Yo I just went on reserves and fought this one dude, swore he was a player but had no tags, and wore a Gizelle finished the raid and saw the name was GZT? Got a player kill after tht, exfilled and the m1a off the dude was found in raid?

[dawn geyser]

https://tarkov-tools.com/ammo/5.56x45 mm

[cosmic tinsel]

but if you're too broke to 855a1, 856a1 is your boy

[rocky stone]

I’m so confused

[bold kernel]

855a1 if you're a rich cunt
856a1 if you can hit em headshots

[dawn geyser]

That wire triggers me more than it should

[cosmic tinsel]

its insane.

[rocky stone]

I’m playing on a crap top and the wire only works in one position

[bold kernel]

Win + Shift + S you caveman

[unborn compass]

ogey i hit my headshots ong

that r6 got me readu

[dawn geyser]

omg like it's almost dead right LOL

[rocky stone]

Wasn’t working

Lmaooo

[rocky stone]

Naw dog bit the wire

Well

Technically yeah

;-;

[dawn geyser]

lmfao rip

[rocky stone]

Don’t bully me plox

[unborn compass]

are you close to beta?

[dawn geyser]

Tape it in that position that's what I do

[unborn compass]

not the tape

[rocky stone]

Why tf would I buy beta when I’m almost at punisher

[unborn compass]

i forgot what it was called not beta lul

[rocky stone]

Epsilon op beta waste of money

[bold kernel]

how we supposed to know dat

[dawn geyser]

Whaoh take it easy

[unborn compass]

i mean the one with 6 or w/e

[dawn geyser]

Friendly fire

He's only trying to help

[rocky stone]

Lmaooo I’m just playin

😂😂 ye that’s beta

[unborn compass]

lol

[rocky stone]

I’m poor

;-;

[unborn compass]

unlucky

[rocky stone]

Yeah

And stupid, spent over 2 mil on like 5 adars

[unborn compass]

damn sent preset i wanna see

[dawn geyser]

It's ok I was looking through twitch streamers that were new low to high

I opened this guys stream

stares at pouch

Asks what he did with his container

"I sold it it gave me money"

[rocky stone]

I’ll send it in a bit, about to go out

[bold kernel]

omfg

[rocky stone]

Sounds like something I’d do

When I first opened the game I asked my friends why I could have two backpacks equipped

[bold kernel]

he either pays up 8000 dollors to peacekeeper or he boutta be a scav

[rocky stone]

O ye what was up with that loot from before

Oh I just found out that was a gluhar fight I walked in on I’m stupid lol

Nvm ignore my q

[dawn geyser]

I had him reset his account

He was mad at first but thanked me later after realizing how important his butthole was

[bold kernel]

good

[rocky stone]

Kwon a national hero

[dawn geyser]

LOL saving one timmy at a time

[rocky stone]

Can you save me from myself

I found a graphics card and sold it to get more labs cards

[dawn geyser]

LOL what a chad

[cosmic tinsel]

big aquafps energy

[rocky stone]

I can only dream to be aqua

I died 2 minutes into the first raid and extracting on the second

That makes my labs success 3/14 so far

[upper iron]

Aqua

[rocky stone]

Third match was by far the funniest

[cosmic tinsel]

labs is terrifying

[rocky stone]

I dc’ed, reconnected and literally everyone was dead

Nine bodies outside of black key card room

Last one bled out a little outside which gave it away for me

[inland fossil]

Anyone wanna help me do these

[rocky stone]

I try not to shit myself while loading in

[modest mica]

why is literally everybody on interchange just sitting in a fucking corner

[cosmic tinsel]

its a map w a lot of dark corners

[modest mica]

just a lot of corners in general

[pure marsh]

Can you guys tell me wtf happened?

[modest mica]

super rare cultist glitch during the day

[fleet whale]

in beginners assistance, willing to help, im lvl 46 NA and EU, i can connect to both

[modest mica]

but also he went prone

you didnt kill him

[pure marsh]

cultists spawn on customs? whaaaaaaa

[bold kernel]

@pure marsh cultists,

[modest mica]

theyre practically invisible prone

[rocky stone]

Isn’t this whole game “who sits in a corner better” tho?

[bold kernel]

any map with a marked room

[cosmic tinsel]

were you killed by a player or a cultist name

[modest mica]

not really with quests and missions and shit but i get what youre saying pvp wise

[rocky stone]

Fair nuff

[unkempt grove]

u prob did kill that first one but u didnt see the one to the left standing up ?

[cosmic tinsel]

wow that do look like cultist on rewatch

[pure marsh]

I had no idea about that. I thought i was losing my mind. It was AI scav

[celest sage]

Killed a level 12 and he had hexgrid and vector

[tired crane]

Nice

[pure marsh]

I saw him but i was big confused so i panicked

[celest sage]

Magnum buck is best for MP-153 change my mind

[tired crane]

Magnum buckshot will make everyone panic

[cosmic tinsel]

magnum buck is one of the 3 kings of shotgun rounds

and its my favorite shotgun round

[tired crane]

Express is slept on

Super accurate over distances

[dawn geyser]

lol #fan-art post it there good job though

[cosmic tinsel]

agree that fan art but also can i use this for my avy

[ancient parcel]

posted it in the wrong VC lmao

i mean

text channel

[weak sandal]

how much is a mustache worth

[dawn geyser]

~23

[cosmic tinsel]

i just pulled one

it was worth 13

i was shocked

[dawn geyser]

???

[cosmic tinsel]

literally my last raid 5 min ago

[dawn geyser]

Moustache dropped half price?

To ragman right?

[cosmic tinsel]

i put mine on market

[dawn geyser]

Is that Ragman?

[cosmic tinsel]

yes

i just bought this off flea to show

[dawn geyser]

That's so saddddd

[cosmic tinsel]

yep

[dawn geyser]

What about the smoke mask?

Did that go down as well?

[cosmic tinsel]

dont have one floating around and am queued in

[dawn geyser]

Ah ok

[cosmic tinsel]

shmaska still slaps as of this morning

[dawn geyser]

Nope smoke still ~25

[cosmic tinsel]

(32kish)

[dawn geyser]

To ragman?

I never even noticed

[cosmic tinsel]

to flea

i flea everything

[dawn geyser]

Oh. lol

[cosmic tinsel]

because its a hobby, not because its best 😄

flea market rating goes up, so does my mood

[dawn geyser]

I miss the old flea market

I had 200 rating on old flea market

Now I only have 40

[bold kernel]

lol am happy with my 2.02 or something

[cosmic tinsel]

i used to arbitrage 995 while i was on conference calls back when you could non FiR

[dawn geyser]

You get +1 listing at rep 10 o: keep going

[woven kayak]

hello everyone how can i join a PMC squad ?

[bold kernel]

I never have enough good things to need more than 3 listings

[dawn geyser]

That's so pphands

Craft stuffs

[cosmic tinsel]

try #pvp-lfg, or the EFT_LFG subreddit?

[dawn geyser]

You can also just join one of the not-full voice chats that say Beginners Assistance

[woven kayak]

ok thx

[bold kernel]

interchange run went great 😦

[dawn geyser]

pphands, what kind of ammo did he use?

[bold kernel]

ap-20 sloogs

[rocky stone]

Lmao nice

[dawn geyser]

omg nooooooooooo

[rocky stone]

Happened to me today too

[errant estuary]

Should I use folder of intelligence for scav case? or should I keep it for purple card?

[dawn geyser]

That's some serious pphands

[rocky stone]

Do you have ur intel center up?

[errant estuary]

yep, all max

[rocky stone]

Ah can’t help ya there, not at that point so idk what’s better 🤧

[craggy sapphire]

Can someone help me do gunsmith lvl 1

?

[dawn geyser]

What level are you?

[craggy sapphire]

)

9

[dawn geyser]

Don't attempt it until level 10 my good sir until options are open

[craggy sapphire]

I just need to do this quest to get to lvl 10

Fuck

[dawn geyser]

xD

[craggy sapphire]

And i just lost my ak 105 too

[dawn geyser]

-patpat-

You'll lose a lot of guns you love

[craggy sapphire]

I guess i have to do hatchet runs to marked room

[dawn geyser]

How much money do you have

[cosmic tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/escalated-quickly-anchorman-drinking-gif-5112090

[craggy sapphire]

350k

[dawn geyser]

Okay fair

Hatchet away my good sir

[craggy sapphire]

lol

My marked room key on has 19 uses left :(

[dawn geyser]

Plenty to buy another marked

[craggy sapphire]

And i am afraid i am going to get something insane

And not have a bp

Lets hope for a docs

[dawn geyser]

I hope there's 13 weapons cases in there

And you stare at it in pure horror

[craggy sapphire]

And i need a weapon case so bad

if i just had the key to the other room

[bold kernel]

what should I take for rushing Tehxo and Techlight? don't want to be a filthy hatchling but I need gpus

[craggy sapphire]

Lets pray to mohammed for the good spawn

I have no gpu's

Guy just fucked me in the ass

[median edge]

Which weapon with what ammo is the best for like 70k

For like 50 meters or less

[bold kernel]

@craggy sapphire interchange Hatchet run is a better idea

[granite kiln]

Hatchlings cringe

[bold kernel]

Saying cringe is cringe

[glad coral]

Can someone help me on customs?

[craggy sapphire]

Interchange?

[bold kernel]

Depends on the spawn

[craggy sapphire]

I am figuring on doing kipa?

[bold kernel]

kiba?

Kina?

[craggy sapphire]

I am joking

I don't have any gear for it

But i have the key

[median edge]

Pls

[bold kernel]

Vector

[median edge]

Is 100k 😂

[bold kernel]

There's two versions

[craggy sapphire]

I usually use a ak 10

105

With bp ammo

[pure marsh]

Or an sks. It'll carry you to the moon

[dire matrix]

if youre gonna use the sks use a 7.62 vpo. it has cheaper and bigger mags

[median edge]

I use vss

[dire matrix]

and it can be modded much easier

[median edge]

It's really god

I use sp6

It has 60damage 45 pen

And it's silenced 😉

[dire matrix]

thing is 30 rounders are expensive and 20s usually arent big enough

[median edge]

Uh wdum

It 3 hits or 2 hits t5 armor

[dire matrix]

30 rounds 9x39 mags are like 30k a pop

[craggy sapphire]

Shampoo?

[dire matrix]

yeah but its 900 rpm and if there is more than one you are gonna need to reload incessantly

[median edge]

I'm fine with that

[dire matrix]

if you trades sprays with a dude using an m4 or ak you are gonna need to reload

[normal wraith]

i got rb ob key is it good

[dire matrix]

he wont and he can push you while you reload

[dawn geyser]

!wiki rb-ob

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/RB-OB_key
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page rb-ob for a direct link or !wiki search rb-ob for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

RB-OB key

The RB-OB key (RB-OB) is a Key in Escape from Tarkov.

[median edge]

Rather than having to deal with ak recoil

[dire matrix]

vss has pretty high recoil

[median edge]

And ammo for ak is so expensive

[normal wraith]

ok but how much is it worth

[dire matrix]

its kinda hard to use anywhere but very close range

[median edge]

Not rly lol

[bold kernel]

HOW am I ever gonna get 3 found in raid gpus for mechanic??

[dawn geyser]

Type TB-Ob tarkov price in google

[dire matrix]

interchange tech stores

[median edge]

Medium range?

[dawn geyser]

Will bring you to Tarkov-market.com and tell you the market price

[bold kernel]

always looted before I get there

[dire matrix]

past like 50ish meters it gets hard to stay on target

[normal wraith]

wtf its like 600k

[craggy sapphire]

Fuck why are there people just camping fully geared with vectors

[dire matrix]

use an sj6 and dont stop running

[median edge]

Costs me 400 per bullet that melts t5 armor

[hidden widget]

Today i found 3 in raid ones. Time to become a Hatchet Guy 🙂

[median edge]

Ak is shit unless you mod it

[dire matrix]

not saying its bad gun. its really good

[dawn geyser]

is 400 per bullet expensive

[dire matrix]

but there are some hefty downsides to consider

[median edge]

And ammo is like 1.5k per

[dire matrix]

its still a close range monster for sure

[dawn geyser]

oh you're saying it's cheap

[median edge]

Ye

[dire matrix]

but you get outranged by any other assault rifle

[bold kernel]

what how

[median edge]

After all its a sniper rifle

With subsonic ammo xD

[dire matrix]

thats also one of its downsides. past close range the ammo falls off really fast

[median edge]

Yea

But it melts

[dire matrix]

it does, i really like it

[median edge]

Ye me too 😂

[dire matrix]

but the range has been an issue for me

and cost of 30s

[dawn geyser]

I like the Mcx but it's basically just a worse M4/Hk

[median edge]

I killed gluhkar with a scav today

[dire matrix]

all it needs is a buffer tube adapter

then itll be sick

[lethal plank]

Newbie LF some factory quest help 🙂

[median edge]

Idk is it just me or raiders don't have aimbot on scabs?

[dawn geyser]

Scabs xD

[dire matrix]

scav boss guards wont aggro to player scavs immedately

[dawn geyser]

You mean NPC scavs?

Or Player scavs?

[dire matrix]

unless you get close to the boss

they will try to wave you away

[dawn geyser]

Yeah if you are a Playerscav they will fire warning shots after shouting at you

[craggy sapphire]

Got a sixpack key?

[dire matrix]

if the boss is far enough the guards wont even shoot back. i had a guard stand there while i shot him in the head

he didnt even react

[median edge]

Lol this scav runs make me so much money

Reserve #1

[dawn geyser]

Reserve scav is broken

They need to make the extracts further

[dire matrix]

heating pipe is such a good extract

[dawn geyser]

It's a broken extract

[dire matrix]

and depot hermetic

[median edge]

Lol I go do the alarm and then come to the station and go to the pipes simple

Excrats on reserve are aids

[dawn geyser]

PMC extracts yes

Scav extracts are just broken

[craggy sapphire]

Guys lets hope for a good spawn

[dire matrix]

without red rebel yeah. pmc extracts are brutal

[median edge]

Do you use a paracird each time

[dawn geyser]

They need to place button a little closer to Hermetic

[dire matrix]

no you just need to have it

[dawn geyser]

Going cross map x2 to extract is sad

[median edge]

Oh cool

D-2 is nasty

[dawn geyser]

D2 is spoopy first time I did it

[dire matrix]

d2 is nice if you have body armor

[bold kernel]

d2 is ok but spoopy as hell

[dawn geyser]

There was a ratling hiding on top of a vent

He jumped off

[dire matrix]

and no room to throw it in a backpack

[dawn geyser]

and started hatcheting me

[bold kernel]

boutta steal this guys extract

[median edge]

Should i buy a red rebel for that extract xD

[craggy sapphire]

How do people jump like super far

[dire matrix]

high level strength and bunny hopping

[craggy sapphire]

Emercome is the only doable

[dawn geyser]

Bunny hop + High Strength

[dire matrix]

just because it says that doesnt mean the card has been swiped. just that the power is on

[craggy sapphire]

My game is fucked

[median edge]

Is red rebel worth it?

[bold kernel]

yep just learnt that ...

[dire matrix]

if you play a bunch of reserve yeah

[dawn geyser]

Only if you run Reserve a lot

[bold kernel]

where do I get out

[craggy sapphire]

I do reserve alot

But i have like 320k

[bold kernel]

should I just wait for the door to open?

[dire matrix]

if someone swipes the card then yeah

door will swing open

[median edge]

Factory js just a dumb map

[dawn geyser]

I love factory

[median edge]

I hope they make a larger expansion whrn new boss comes out

[dire matrix]

apparently new factory is gonna be the size of old customs

[dawn geyser]

What really? D:

[median edge]

No way

[dire matrix]

i dont have a source. but lvndmark was talking about it on stream

[dawn geyser]

I love my TDM style factory packed tight

[golden loom]

does anybody know the true extent of what you can get from the scav case?

[dawn geyser]

Condensed in a tiny nugget of a map

[dawn geyser]

Anything

[dire matrix]

basically anything

[craggy sapphire]

Marked room op?

[errant estuary]

RR extract costs like 80-100k per extract 😦

[boreal lagoon]

can someone help me with 2 quests on customs? i always get lost there

[bold kernel]

how much time do I have from door opening to the guy that swiped the card coming over?

[golden loom]

cause i just got a med case from it

[dawn geyser]

What do you mean?

[dire matrix]

no it doesnt what

it doesnt use the paracord

[dawn geyser]

Oh that's what he means

[golden loom]

so im wondering what other cases i could get

[dawn geyser]

Just keep the Paracord in your butthole

It doesn't consume upon extraction

[dire matrix]

depending on what kind of scav case you run it has different loot pools

[median edge]

Scav case even worth it?

[golden loom]

yeah

[dire matrix]

with moonshine its streamer items. intel has a higher chance for keys

[dawn geyser]

Run enough of it yes

Run it once and stop - no

[dire matrix]

its gambling

[dawn geyser]

It will eventually pay

[dire matrix]

but you can get a red rebel or colored labs keycard

[median edge]

In like a long run

[golden loom]

like some times i get like 20k back from 85k run

[bold kernel]

do people use this extract often or should I just go to the railway

[golden loom]

but then you get a med case that makes up for the past 3 runs

[dawn geyser]

I've gotten 2 aesa's so

[dire matrix]

go railway. not many people have it

its a 2 mil keycard

[bold kernel]

oof ok

[median edge]

Is boozy generator worth it

What about the air filter?

[bold kernel]

I don't even have railway FUCK
emercom is so far away

[dire matrix]

you need a super water and 2 sugar to make a moonshine at booze generator

[craggy sapphire]

Best loot from marked room

[dire matrix]

so if you find a sugar in raid or die with it it can make you money

[median edge]

Cool

[dire matrix]

or you run water filter to make the super waters

[median edge]

Is it worth running air filter

[dawn geyser]

If you play a lot yes

[dire matrix]

if you want to level skills faster yeah

[craggy sapphire]

Ye

s

When do i get a airfilter

[bold kernel]

which one of these is the closest am right by saferoom door

[dire matrix]

hole in fence

[median edge]

It's 500k per 8h j thinj

[dire matrix]

but you need to drop your backpack

[median edge]

Power Station and pay

[craggy sapphire]

Or emercome

[bold kernel]

don't have one lol

[dawn geyser]

That's if it's there

[craggy sapphire]

But there might be haackers

[dawn geyser]

Oh good, then hole in the fence

[craggy sapphire]

Campers*

[dire matrix]

you are pretty close to hole in fence

[dawn geyser]

I haven't been exfil camped yet this wipe

Except for Factory

[median edge]

That was me sorry

Have a nasty spot- that no one checks

[dawn geyser]

lol

[cinder hound]

kwon

wyd

[craggy sapphire]

My endurance is the ssame level as i am :D

[dawn geyser]

Work

And answering questions

lol

[bold kernel]

ok quick question are there campers/ scavs at emercom

[craggy sapphire]

Might be scavs

[dawn geyser]

I rarely run into exfil campers

[craggy sapphire]

And, yeah there can be campers

I run into them all of the time

Unless i am hatchet running

[bold kernel]

got out 🎉
prolly the first interchange pmc run I get out of lol

[dire matrix]

you are probably running into people in the hot zones around extracts and not extract campers

i havent been extract camped a single time this wipe

[cosmic tinsel]

ive only had a handful

[craggy sapphire]

NO people sitting in a corner at emercome

[cosmic tinsel]

i have been accused of exfil camping on account of killing people as im running to exfil more times than i've been exfil camped

[craggy sapphire]

What is this

A smoke?

And a mule?

[celest sage]

I found a money case why are they 2M

Wtf

Who would ever buy that

Items cases are cheaper

[craggy sapphire]

Are mules good?

[dire matrix]

90k

[celest sage]

100k

On a good day

[craggy sapphire]

What are they for?

[celest sage]

Make you hold tons of weight

[craggy sapphire]

Perm?

[dire matrix]

you can carry more weight

for 15 mins

[craggy sapphire]

Oh

[dire matrix]

but you take damage for the duration

[craggy sapphire]

Do i have it forever?

[dire matrix]

the buffs and debuffs have timers

[celest sage]

You lose stims if you use them

[dire matrix]

if you read on the stim it says how long they last

[craggy sapphire]

Wich mounts work on a mosin?

?

?

[manic horizon]

Kochetov Mount with a PU 3.5x ring mount can put a decent scope on for cheap

[bold kernel]

What's the unknown reward

[chrome lotus]

anyone free to help me get the jaegers message?

[manic horizon]

you eu or na

[silver hornet]

check the wiki

[keen rose]

im new could someone help me learn

[bold kernel]

o right
It's 2 metal fuel btw very nice

[unreal horizon]

Anything in particular you want to improve at?

[lime moss]

can anybody call and go over with me what to sell to merchants and what to keep

[glad robin]

Hey do my computer did a update mid raid do I get my gear back or no?

[bold kernel]

nope

[glad robin]

So*

Dang

[cinder hound]

no

[drowsy forge]

anyonee needs money here?

[bold kernel]

I kinda do

[drowsy forge]

need 1 more on squad# 2

[wind gulch]

[bold kernel]

but can't play rn cause 1am

[barren oasis]

[mortal pendant]

soooo, what should I do to practice besides offline mode without basically dumping all my gear to pub players?

as a literally brand new player who doesn't have much full PMC gear left 🙂

[bold kernel]

@mortal pendant If you haven't progressed a ton ( say under level 8 or so ) I'd say go wild and when you're broke reset your game profile

( probably bad advice )

There are no cultists on interchange riiiight ( want to go in at night to mark the fuel tankers )

[mortal pendant]

yeah I'm level 2

how do I reset? how often can I do it? it puts me back to level 1 as if I just started again?

[cosmic tinsel]

i believe cultists are only on shoreline, woods, and customs

[vivid ice]

Are there cultist on customs nighttime? I swear i saw a video of them on there before

[rocky stone]

Once a month, if I recall

[vivid ice]

Oh ok

[bold kernel]

2 weeks

[rocky stone]

Just do cache runs and hunt scavs imo

[bold kernel]

you can reset once every 14 days from the eft website

[pure marsh]

You can play like a rat. I got 3 shoreline quests done in one run that way

Today

[cosmic tinsel]

you do it by logging into the website, and it puts you back to lvl 1. if you're doing it because you're out of money, i wouldnt, and if you're doing it because you want to change your name, you can do that without resetting your account

[bold kernel]

he's level 2 doe not losing much

[mortal pendant]

I see, ok, then bar resetting, what's a good way to get practice in... the 20 minute scav timer is killin me

[cosmic tinsel]

sure, but hes not gaining much either

its not a TERRIBLE move, my buddy did it when he was new

[bold kernel]

he's gaining everything in his stash back ( says it's all gone )

[cosmic tinsel]

but there are ways out of poverty

yeah, thats what, 500k rub + another 500k worth of gear?

[pure marsh]

Join a VC with other players and do quests with them

[cosmic tinsel]

its some value, but the real value is gonna be in learning how to rat and learn budget kits

[mortal pendant]

I don't mind learning how to rat, also don't mind doing budget stuff too

was actually hoping to get some gear from scav runs to learn even from budget stuff

but I've not been so lucky with scav runs either

[cosmic tinsel]

yeah, its really really tough at the beginning

its never harder than it is now

i completely understand the urge to reset account. my point is only that it addresses a symptom and not the underlying issue

but play the game in the way thats best for you

my buddy did it when he went broke and now laughs and thinks hes silly fwiw - he learned some interchange scav routes

[mortal pendant]

yea I'd rather not reset, I'm not completely out of gear yet, but 3 more unsuccessful PMC raids and I won't even have a pistol to my name 😄

[cosmic tinsel]

ha! well play slow, avoid as many fights as you can (especially players), and pick up as much junk as you can

[mortal pendant]

I see DeadlySlob's videos about flea market, I'm guessing they made flea market level 10 after he made that video

[cosmic tinsel]

could be

used to be all levels, then level 5, now level 10

[mortal pendant]

yea that'd explain it

[pure marsh]

What I did was, I learned how to rat and leave the map without seeing a single other PMC. On shoreline, you can just chill in bush for 20 minutes and then go to resort and pick up whatever is left. Customs and Interchange have very accessible stashes and chads will be inside most of the time anyways

[candid elk]

im level 5 anyone wanna help me lvl up at give me tips. i grasp games fairly quick!

[bold kernel]

Are there people at power station?

like is it a hot area

I need to plant a marker

[pure marsh]

There's two spawns around it but usually after the first 5-10 minutes it's pretty clear

[bold kernel]

It's 20 mins in

[bold kernel]

at night

[pure marsh]

Oh. You should be fine

[bold kernel]

k. any scavs?

nvm I heard one talk

[candid elk]

EU anyone got any tips for me and wanna help me through some levels!

[mortal pendant]

any good rat guides or videos you could throw my way?

[pure marsh]

Yes. There's two that spawn there AFAIK

One sec Nova, let me find it

[bold kernel]

they're blind asf haha

[late lynx]

if i upgrade my stash before eod do i still get the +10 stash ontop of eod

[vivid ice]

Equip maybe a pistol and some meds in ur secure container and go to interchange and haul ass to the techstore or idea office

[bold kernel]

he probably has no idea where they are

[late lynx]

this was rat run i just did my best one yet

[vivid ice]

Lmao i was probably thinking the same thing 😂😂

[vivid ice]

Wait innocence is this ur first wipe?

[bold kernel]

@late lynx huge rat

[late lynx]

absolutly and im level 10

yes it is

[bold kernel]

5mil

level 10

what

[vivid ice]

How the fuck, you did more than i ever could at lvl 10

Ikrrr

[late lynx]

idk man i just learned the art of the rat run

[vivid ice]

Respect

[late lynx]

heres the reat

[vivid ice]

Do u use auto sort?

[pure marsh]

I'm betting 5 roubles that you grinded out interchange runs

[late lynx]

you are correct

[bold kernel]

enuf flexxin haha

[pure marsh]

IC has a TON of loot outside of the hot spots

[vivid ice]

Dont use auto sort imo, its so trash

[late lynx]

just hit tech stores and through tetris is in your ass and easy 700k

so question tho

if i purchase stash in my hideout then purchase eod is the stash upgrade wasted?

[vivid ice]

I think so?

[pale lichen]

just had my best scav run

i know its not much but for me this is big

[vivid ice]

I upgraded to eod before i upgraded stash and I couldn’t upgrade my stash anymore

[errant estuary]

What do you guys do with intelligence folder after max intel center? do you just scav case with it or craft purple card

[bold kernel]

how is max intel beginner

[slow bone]

how do fucking spawns work in this game?

i keep getting the same spawns

[pure marsh]

I use them for my Scav case 🤷

[slow bone]

over and over and over

[errant estuary]

ah right ok, thanks

is it profitable?

[vivid ice]

If ur lucky

[slow bone]

i dont stand a chance getting a gpu on interchange because i keep spawning next to ermercon exfil

[pure marsh]

It's based on your CPU load time. I have an SSD so I always get big red on customs @slow bone

[bold kernel]

same

[slow bone]

i refuse to belief its 'rng'

[late lynx]

i get amazing spawns

[slow bone]

its too frequent and consequent

[pure marsh]

I'd say it's 50/50 to break even or lose money.

[vivid ice]

How to get rid of gear fear?

[unreal horizon]

go raid instead of chilling here

[vivid ice]

Im took scared to bring out my 40 rnd mp7 mags cuz its 100k on market and i dont have prapor ll3

[unreal horizon]

u just gotta do it

[steady comet]

hi guys, I am playing for a week and looking for ppl to play with. I am lvl 15 with 6.5mil in stash

[vivid ice]

Or is it mechanic ll3?

[pure marsh]

No point in having it if you don't use them

[steady comet]

EU server 🙂

[late lynx]

hey anyone know a cheap way to get eod

[vivid ice]

There was a discount like 26-28 feb before lmao

But theres no cheap way to buy eod i think

[errant estuary]

@vivid ice I use budget build depends on my finance situation

before prapor 3 i was using AK74M

with BT ammo which is very cheap

if you think you can handle that very easily, you can go up to RPK budget + BS ammo

[vivid ice]

What i wanna know is, how tf do u run labs

[pure marsh]

Or the PS ammo for 7.62x39. Dirt cheap weapons and ammo

[vivid ice]

Shits confusing af

Especially the basement

[errant estuary]

why are you thinking about lab when you have gear fear xD

[vivid ice]

Hey man if i got labs and i die

I dont really care since i cant insure it

Its different with other maps

[errant estuary]

but that lab card costs 250k

so....

thats your investment alread

[vivid ice]

I could always just farm reserve scav night

[errant estuary]

instead of losing, say 150k of normal budget gears that you can use in normal raid, you just lost 250k right off

if you are keen to lose that 250k then you should not have gear fear, because your budget build is 100% less than that lab card cost

just think like that

[vivid ice]

Honestly if i found the keycard off a bosses body, i dont reallt care if i die since i didnt buy it off the body

In labs i mean like if i used it instead of buying one and using that

[errant estuary]

well, you prob will find good weapon from raiders or boss, so theres your free gear

[pure marsh]

Raider hunting is lit in labs

I just think the map is sketchy

[errant estuary]

if you have gear fear, you should stay away from lab, since the entrance costs is prob gonna be more than your entire build

[bold kernel]

Hey I need help with gunsmith part 7

[vivid ice]

Watch youtube video

👍 problem solved

[acoustic prawn]

anyone willing to help me do some low level quests? I've only played on woods and factory and I'm scared to go anywhere else without assistance

good to know the chat died as soon as i spoke

[pure marsh]

Just join a VC for whichever map you need

[bold kernel]

nope. I can't buy the stock they want and the tactical choke is 100k plus

[pure marsh]

Quit being poor then 😂

[bold kernel]

-_-

[digital yew]

anyone looking for a team?

or a player.

[shell lark]

anyone down to go shoreline not new but just looking for someone :/

[bold kernel]

I AM FINALLY LEVEL 20
MECHANIC LEVEL 2 LET'S GO BOIS

anyone wanna play i suck btw

Does anyone know how much in total solar power will cost 

[tulip ivy]

is there any way to see how far away 2 points are on an online map?

[vivid ice]

I swear i am hardstuck on lvl 18

I run factory and theres no pmc to be seen

[thorn swift]

do tasks

easy levels

Could anyone get me this? ill pay you back 2x

nvm i bought bastion instead, thanks tho

[dawn geyser]

Sorry i'm at work otherwise I would

[dawn geyser]

Quests =p

[bold kernel]

You must fold the stock without the recoil pad attached, then attach it. With the pad on the gun, the option is unavailable.

I can't do this

[dawn geyser]

o-o? Gunsmith?

[bold kernel]

ye

goonsmith

part 10

[dawn geyser]

wait actually? It needs to be folded?

LMAO

Are you sure that's the one?

[bold kernel]

ye

[dawn geyser]

Oh noooooo

[cosmic tinsel]

can you use a recoil foregrip

rk-2 or whatever

[bold kernel]

fuck wanted to get another stock but now it's too heavy

switched the vpg for a cobra and it worked

[errant estuary]

Do we know when the next wipe is?

[bold kernel]

nice

[proven beacon]

I'm New to tarkov was wonderign if someone could show me the ropes DM if you would like to help me

[bold kernel]

this good?

[dawn geyser]

It's not grate

[wicked sequoia]

I just got tarkov and dont know what im doing, can somebody help me please?

[dawn geyser]

Sorry bad joke

[bold kernel]

lmao

[dawn geyser]

Beginner videos on youtube! Recommend pestily

[wicked sequoia]

ty

[uneven sail]

Did they buff scavs recently ?

[dawn geyser]

No, what map are you running?

[uneven sail]

Only reserve

They seem to be a lot tuffer now lol

[dawn geyser]

You're having troubles with the raiders i'm guessing?

[uneven sail]

More scared of the scav bots then raiders lol

They ain’t playin no mo

[dawn geyser]

o-o weird they didn't change on reserve

[uneven sail]

Sure looks like it did oh well

[modern tree]

hello there i was wondering how you find the extracts cause i cant ever seem to find them?

[dawn geyser]

You can double tap "O" to see what extractions are available to you

Then pull up a map (Map Genie maps are good)

[bold kernel]

would anyone be nice enuf to drop me one of these rq
Jaeger LL3

[dawn geyser]

Options that have a question mark (Ex. [Old Gas Station ?? : ?? : ??] Only have a chance of being open to extract)

[dawn geyser]

If you don't get one in 3 hours I'll fence it to you

[bold kernel]

I have to sleep in 20 mins oof

[dawn geyser]

Sorry buddy =p

[bold kernel]

it ok

[wind gulch]

still need it?

[bold kernel]

yes

[rugged yacht]

Anyone got m2 tactical swrd barter

[wind gulch]

ready?

[bold kernel]

@wind gulch can you grab one rq and drop it to me

yes

which map

[wind gulch]

no, Imm sending it through fence

just link the thing on flea and refresh

ready?

[bold kernel]

oh ok

one sec

[wind gulch]

you know how this works right?

[bold kernel]

ready

[wind gulch]

sold

[bold kernel]

got it

ty

[wind gulch]

np

[bold kernel]

Didn't know you could fence things over

That's neat

Anyways enough tarkov for today I've gone up from level 18 to 21 and finished like 6 or 7 quests

[iron tangle]

hey guys can u help like im trying to learn the extract points in interchange and stuff im new and when i find it it says u need a scav etc or need money is there any points where i can leave without a scav or pmc like just leave by myself?

[lusty glacier]

how does star rounds work? does it have to be direct hit or can it hit a wall next to them?

[pure marsh]

Star rounds are a flash bang 180 degrees in front of the barrel. It flashes on trigger pull

[bold kernel]

@iron tangle ama dm you something cause it's too long to send here

[iron tangle]

@bold kernel np

[bold kernel]

@lusty glacier yes there is always one extract that you can use fore "free" or as a pmc or scav

[bold kernel]

@lusty glacier from what I understand it's basically a flashbang explosion at your barrel each time you shoot
Only effective under 15m or so

[pure marsh]

I'm happy I had a clip saved of it in action

[wispy glade]

nothing better than chain flashing hatchlings on reserve so they dont even know where they're going

interchange*

[pure marsh]

There was a clip from customs where the dude flashed a guy and stabbed him with the cultist knife and kept flashing over and over

[wispy glade]

https://youtu.be/c4vfAU58qzY and this

[pure marsh]

I love that fucking gun. It's 10/10

If I get flashed I just give a thumbs up

[tawdry sinew]

it needs a fat nerf there's no reason u should be able to one shot ppl in the leg with a gun thats 40k rubles and ammo thats like 800rubles a round

[bold kernel]

Ever heard of lps gzh my dear sir

It's dirt cheap and bangs

[tawdry sinew]

but ur not one shotting someone with a slick/altyn on with it without even aiming

[bold kernel]

Welp I don't ever play factory anyways so I have no opinion on the KS-23 lol

[pure marsh]

I'm assuming you've had your legs liquidized by some shrap 10 huh?

[bold kernel]

Nvm I do

[tawdry sinew]

the amount of times i've been one shot from like 40m on customs or shoreline resort is tilting

[tawdry pollen]

i mean the game is supposed to be realistic, if you get shot with a 6 gauge shotgun in the legs IRL you're gonna die

[tawdry sinew]

not instantly

[tawdry pollen]

you'd go into shock instantly so you'd effectively be dead

[tawdry sinew]

if you wanna be realistic no armor in real life is tanking more than 1 round of most rifle calibers yet here we are

[slow bone]

which armors are not worth repairing?

[tawdry pollen]

then bleed out

[bold kernel]

Was on a reserve with a buddy
Thought I saw a raider so I switched my gun to single so I don't waste ammo
I landed 8 hits on the guy, my friend 5 hits and he got us both with SHRAP10
We did like 300 damage total to the bitch

[tawdry pollen]

lol true i just said the game is supposed to be realisic, they don't often do that

[pure marsh]

KS-23M>Everything else

[tawdry sinew]

if its supposed to be realistic then make it realistic all around not just one gun thats "super realistic" while everything else needs balancing changes

pick one

[tawdry pollen]

ks-23 is fine with the damage it does it just shouldn't be that cheap

[tawdry sinew]

theres a reason the lapua ammo is 20k a round

[bold kernel]

If this game was realistic realistic it would be trash

[pure marsh]

Realism aside, a single 8.5 magnum pellet will kill anyone without a face shield

[tawdry pollen]

true, everyone would get one life and you get banned when you die

[tawdry sinew]

okay then balance the ks23 because its the most trash thing about the game right now

[tawdry pollen]

just use it LUL

[tawdry sinew]

like is it a meme game or milsim

[bold kernel]

Neither lol

[tawdry sinew]

not according to nikita lmfao

[pure marsh]

What? How is one shotgun a problem? A mosin boi can kill anyone regardless of armor

[tawdry sinew]

with a headshot sure but i'm not running in naked with a mosin and sprinting to dorms for an ez 3k because shrap go brrrr

[tawdry pollen]

maybe you should

[bold kernel]

What if I want to use some other gun

[golden loom]

its both

[tawdry pollen]

not allowed

[tawdry sinew]

exactly

[pure marsh]

Get good and I won't leg you

[tawdry pollen]

youll use the ks-23 and YOU'LL LIKE IT

[tawdry sinew]

dont change the ks23 but give round stopping power, if i hit u in the chest with a 7.62x39 round ur hitting ur ass before u hear the shot

[bold kernel]

I think they should just lower the shrap 10 damage and yeet Star rounds out of the foken game cause they have no reason to be a thing

[golden loom]

i dont even see your problems with it

[tawdry sinew]

ks23 one shots but hitting someone in the chest 7 times with 7.62x51 fmj and they walking away

[golden loom]

i have seen someone use it a total of once

[tawdry pollen]

but then how will I go around factory keeping people flashed for 5 minutes

[bold kernel]

not allowed

[tawdry pollen]

reeeeeeeeee

[bold kernel]

You'll use normal weapons and YOU'LL LIKE IT

now how's that

[tawdry pollen]

No 😠

[tawdry sinew]

i dont have a problem getting one shot if everyone is getting one shot but having one gun that one shots for so cheap with little no skill floor is just ridiculous

thought the game was supposed to be hard

[bold kernel]

Ok ngl this do be off topic

[pure marsh]

I like the salt. Let me one tap you

[bold kernel]

Any beginners still here uhh ask away

[tawdry sinew]

i'm BEGINNING to lose my mind of the ks23 lmfao

[pure marsh]

Wear a face shield and put your legs behind cover. Ezpz

[golden loom]

just dont get close

[frigid fog]

how can I load a single round into chamber/back out?

[bold kernel]

Don't know the hotkey ( if there is one )
Manual way would be dragging ammo from your inventory to the weapon / inspecting the weapon and dragging the chambered round out

[frigid fog]

yeah there's a hotkey but i dont remember

[bold kernel]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[pure marsh]

It's Lctrl+R I think?

Something like that

[frigid fog]

alright thanks

[bold kernel]

@pure marsh think you might be getting it confused with Shift + R which is check chamber

[pure marsh]

Yeah I have no idea then lmao. I never use that keybind

[bold kernel]

Same

Why would you even lol

[slender dawn]

does anyone know why i cant sell my keytool to the therapist?

like it doesnt even say i can sell it its grayed out

[pure marsh]

You can sell it to ragman for 400k

"Tarkov market" says that's the highest trader price

[bold kernel]

is room 203 for dorms a good key

NA level 2, just bought the game a few days ago and i'm struggling somewhat, keep dying and just hope to get some quests done and maybe get some kills? can anybody just help me out for a few runs and teach me some of the basics?

[bold kernel]

Nope, most dorms keys aren't worth it

darn, ngl I only have that and the gas station key lol

[pure marsh]

The factory key is probably the best outside of marked

[bold kernel]

I also have some key for a portable? the key has a black triangle base and says it's near warehouses

Ah yeah, portable cabin key

[pure marsh]

That's a quest room isn't it?

[bold kernel]

ye! that one

wait it's a quest room?

Uh... yes, believe so

[pure marsh]

Like you sit in there for 15-30 seconds

[bold kernel]

oh

[lime grove]

Uhm

[severe star]

anyone to help me with delivery from past?

[lime grove]

I'm on 600 roubles, have nothing to sell, and havent got anything from insurance

The hell do I do?

[severe star]

scav runs.

[bold kernel]

Scav runs are your best bet

[lime grove]

OH RIGHT

Daaamn I'm dumb

Completely forgot they exist

[severe star]

also you could choose night time and sneak around likea filthy rat just getting loot.

[bold kernel]

😛

[lime grove]

Thanks man

[bold kernel]

pray that you dont get killed while doing a small hatchet run

[bold kernel]

Hatchet runs are big no no

[pure marsh]

And prioritize that BTC, money will be a non issue

[lime grove]

Hatchet runs suck

Shitty scavs pushing

[bold kernel]

I've gotten profit on them, its no alot but money is money

I also have a gamma so....

[bold kernel]

Bring a pistol atleast, always

[pure marsh]

Or a shotgun, literally anything

[lime grove]

I've lost a total of like 3mil in the last 30ish hours trying to run tech store for the gpu quest

[bold kernel]

You can get a lucky shot on a well geared player and you've made millions

[pure marsh]

I crafted mine in the hideout

[lime grove]

Just been getting head eyed, head eyed, and head eyed.

Even with fucking exfils

And dont you need uhh

Intelligence center on 3?

[pure marsh]

Hard no

[lime grove]

Huh

What then?

[pure marsh]

Level 2 intelligence

[bold kernel]

😂 I remember checking the requirements to upgrade Intel to LL2 for the first time

[lime grove]

Ahh

[lime grove]

How much is intel rn?

[bold kernel]

"Hmm nutrition station. Fine. Oh that requires another thing"

"Med station, too expensive"

"Security, oh that's fair, oh i need another thing, oh i need another thing for that, and again."

[pure marsh]

It was 300k this morning