beginners-assistance

[wild lily]

IM IN LABS

AND MP 7 IS GLITCHED

WONT LET ME CHANGE GUN

[dawn geyser]

uh oh

try dropping it

[wild lily]

WONT LET ME

IM FUCKED

[dawn geyser]

Only option is to relog

[wind gulch]

restart and hope for the best

[dawn geyser]

alt F4

in a corner

[bold kernel]

@wild lily can you drag it into your inventory?

[wild lily]

NOPE

[bold kernel]

ah

shit

[dawn geyser]

Alt F4 in corner

and pray

Not sure what causes that tbh

[bold kernel]

have to relog :/. just hide and pray ig

[wild lily]

okay thanks

but i fucked up big time

disconnected instead of altf4

thinking its the same thing

[cosmic tinsel]

rip

[wild lily]

FDUCPOMREB

FUCK

sorry

[bold kernel]

riiiippp

[dawn geyser]

oh no

That's why I said alt f4

😦

Sorry for your loss man

[wild lily]

its aight

back to broke

[inland cliff]

what armor can go with the M1 rig

[wispy glade]

nothing

[inland cliff]

you sure?

[violet otter]

its an armored rig

[inland cliff]

alright thanks

[dawn geyser]

LMAO

omg my guy is really broke

[wild lily]

any posts of tarkov causing total depression and no will to live irl?

[frozen plume]

my EOD edtion has activated

[sour heron]

will this open up Dealer level 2 now?

[frozen plume]

i went into tarkov and haven't had the extended stash nor the loot

[violet otter]

u have to be a certain level, have a certain rep with the trader, and have a certain amount spent with the trader

[deft stratus]

anyone wanna do some pmc runs on customs? need 5 scav kills

[bold kernel]

@deft stratus

im down i need em too

[deft stratus]

sure

[unborn compass]

what trading level do i have to be able to put more things on the market , im 1.61 trading level

[deft stratus]

i was thinking of a 3 man squad

@unborn compass thats flea market u unlock at lvl 10

[unborn compass]

no i have the flee market just Im flee market rating 1.61 im tryna find out how high i need my reputation to sell more things at once

[deft stratus]

oh kk

[bold kernel]

i need help w customs dm me

[bold kernel]

i think every 10 trading lvls you unlock another sell slot or smthng

nvm

[deft stratus]

anyone wanna help me get 5 scav kills? level 5 rn and looking for some decent or good players to do a few runs

[daring lava]

i just got tarkov and im wondering is there a key that i can press to examine a item without haveing to right click and click examine

[deft stratus]

middle mouse button

@daring lava

[daring lava]

thx

[deft stratus]

go to fence and middle click everything

gets ur exp and u examine a lot of items so u wont have to in raid

[bold kernel]

middlew mouse

need help doing some custom runs for mark room hmu if want to join.

[red flame]

dude still being sus lol

[unborn compass]

is their a way i can trade usd for roubles?

[dapper atlas]

how do you check time for raid

[foggy egret]

no, not unless you bought guns from peacekeeper and sold them for rubels, if i were you id just save dollars (same goes for euros, but save euros for Items Case)

[foggy egret]

click O once for time, twice for extracts

[dapper atlas]

thanks

[foggy egret]

np

[unborn compass]

ok thanks yeah I just bought 10k so i could upgrade my guy to 2 loyalty , ill save the money

whats the best way to do this without buiying random parts untill it meats the description like i did last time

[unreal horizon]

!wiki gunsmith 3

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Gunsmith_-_Part_3
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page gunsmith 3 for a direct link or !wiki search gunsmith 3 for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

Gunsmith - Part 3

Gunsmith - Part 3 is a Quest in Escape from Tarkov.

[unborn compass]

oh lol

[unreal horizon]

there should be a list of parts there

[unborn compass]

well thats convenient thanks

[unreal horizon]

np hope that helps

you'll probably be able to find shit on the flea if your traders are low

[unborn compass]

yeah i got a feeling imma need mnechanic lvl2 but i have a good amount of money so hopefully people are selling

[red meteor]

im level 7 about to be a level 8 would anyone be down to play some raids and help me hit level 10

[bold kernel]

youtube

[unborn compass]

yeah imma have to cuz im slow even the wiki cant help me

[unreal horizon]

get these

[deft stratus]

someone down for some customs pmc? need 5 kills and looking for some decent players to play with

[unborn compass]

this is what im at so far

whats the stock

[wind gulch]

any stock would do

I think

[unborn compass]

now i just need a bolt do i just do a random one?

[wind gulch]

did the wiki says anything about the bolt?

[unborn compass]

nope

[wind gulch]

then there you go, any would do

[unborn compass]

thanks

[barren oasis]

im down, i need to finish quest there so why not

[gleaming ruin]

i need help learning the woods map for questing. any advice/hlep?

[barren oasis]

run some offline raids and pull up a map on another device, thats what i did to learn the map

[lusty ridge]

ill run with u

[hasty adder]

can anyone help me out with some interchange runs for quests

[gleaming ruin]

is there a specific map you would recommend? maps have different names for landmarks and i remeber seeing a clip of summit ranting about a map he was using being upside down lmao

[barren oasis]

ill send you links but the easiest map to learn is shoreline

[lusty ridge]

anybody wanna run some ? i gotta quest for selewa ?

[dim shoal]

I would love to, if I had stuff

[unborn compass]

!wiki gunsmith 4

[broken quail]

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/Gunsmith_-_Part_4
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page gunsmith 4 for a direct link or !wiki search gunsmith 4 for a list of all hits.

Escape from Tarkov Wiki

Gunsmith - Part 4

Gunsmith - Part 4 is a Quest in Escape from Tarkov.

[gilded sable]

can anyone help me with a couple quests so i can go ahead and hit lvl 10

[oak whale]

Oh well

I can help for people in asi/oce

[bold kernel]

can anyone help me do 2 quests

[polar marlin]

hey can anyone help me with the delivery from the past quest?

dm if your willing

[normal harness]

how do you get ammo and mag boxes?

im running out of inventory space

[elfin gale]

either buy/barter or craft them

[ebon summit]

Or find

[elfin gale]

find is a little harder

[ebon summit]

Reserve I find a magbox or ammo box almost every raid in rb bk

[elfin gale]

yeah but you need a key for that

[ebon summit]

60k :) but yeh

[elfin gale]

true, I didn't check the price as I don't run reserve that much

[solid sandal]

how do I rebind examine button? my friend's middle mouse button is broken

[ebon summit]

If you hit marked rooms it's worth it most of the time can even get a sea in them

[brittle mesa]

so i have the three iskra lunch boxes for jeager, but I cannot give it to him. I found it all in the round

[ebon summit]

Do they have found in raid status?

[brittle mesa]

how would i check that

[ebon summit]

Little tick

Bottem right of the item

[brittle mesa]

i mean i got all of them from woods, one of them off of a dead body

alright so I found one off of a dead body, and died with the other two but I had them in my crate

[ebon summit]

But you need x amount of xp or they lose found in raid status

[elfin gale]

I should run reserve more often as I have a couple of decent keys

[ebon summit]

If you die they lose found in raid status sadly and can't be used

[brittle mesa]

kk

[ebon summit]

Make sure u got a rr if going reserve d2 is capped heavily

[elfin gale]

ah, I don't have one yet

[ebon summit]

Hm prob don't waste much time on the map yet then since the other extract you tell everyone you are going 2

[elfin gale]

funny enough, the only time I got to D2 I died to a group of scavs that were in there

[ebon summit]

Rip

[elfin gale]

yeah, classic death from too many scavs surprising you lol

[ebon summit]

About 35% of my raids on the map d2 is campped

Scav go aimbot brrrr

[elfin gale]

yeah if they lock on you you better hide or you can die pretty quick

[ebon summit]

Raiders are worse tho :(

Aimbot and 1 tap u with garbo ammo

[elfin gale]

are they ? I practice killing them on hard difficulty on labs and they aren't that bad

[ebon summit]

Offline doesn't rly show how they aimbot you

Go labs and call them in and have fun

Legit any time I fight raiders its aimbot xray 1 tap me with t45 and inhuman reaction times

[elfin gale]

yeah, I feel you lol

the worst is when a scav locks on you through windows or bushes

[ebon summit]

And hits you through thr bush

[elfin gale]

yep, head,eyes through bush is a classic

[ebon summit]

😫

I've died to more scavs/raiders than pmcs

[elfin gale]

same for me in the beginning, now it's mostly from pmcs or Reshala's guards when I run into dorms and don't notice them as I get in

[ebon summit]

Lol

Reshala with his 995

[elfin gale]

I've been onetapped by his guards a few times, and the only time I killed him one of his guards shot me in the back as I reloaded D:

[granite pewter]

goes killa altyn to dorms jsut to get one shot by reshala

[ebon summit]

Gose slick altyn to labs 1 tapped by raider with t45m to thorax

[granite pewter]

xD

[ebon summit]

Happened yesterday to me :(

[elfin gale]

I have 4 keycards and the office key but I've never ran an actual labs

[ebon summit]

If you don't have key cards it's mainly for pvp

You won't make money without key cards or a inv full of raider gear

Unless you find black or green key cards when they spawn in the labs

[elfin gale]

If I could, I'd do raiders/manager office and try to find some fuel but most people who run labs are maniacs so I stay away from it lol

[ebon summit]

Yeh labs is always people with meta guns and best ammo for them m995 BP ap sx ect

[elfin gale]

yeh fuck that

[ebon summit]

But I mean black card has like 3 spawns on the map and is worth 6_7 mill

And 2 green card spawns prob 15_20 Mill since only batters for it

Found 2 black in 1 day

[elfin gale]

geez

[final hill]

40 fucking minuets of my life spent running around Shoreline looking for a fucking scav

Only to get one shot by one

[elfin gale]

Head,Eyes !

[final hill]

gg

Fuck Jaeger and his fucking stupid quests

[nocturne moat]

Need help with quests on reserve I’m lvl 14

[elfin gale]

what quest are you on @final hill

[final hill]

Tarkov Shooter part 1

[elfin portal]

why is the flea selling like super slow rn

[gilded veldt]

Hi there, new to the game, learning customs

[lunar sage]

Best beginner map to learn. Make sure you look up key locations and farm those keys, super good keys to have.

[grim spruce]

should I sell the customs marked key?

[lunar sage]

1. Are you going to use it? 2) Do you like gambling? 3) Do you have the game knowledge/gear to use it?

If the answer to these are no, then you should sell.

[grim spruce]

yes/yes/yes

[lunar sage]

Then just keep it lol

[grim spruce]

ok

I died last time I used it

with an ammo box :\

gud thing ammo boxes' cheap

[odd token]

hello, would anyone like to play?

[lunar sage]

I've had a couple be completely empty lol

[gilded veldt]

Well, I sort of manage playing on customs, still get a bit lost in some places

[oak timber]

@gilded veldt i get lost too at times but ive learned shoreline pretty ok and kinda know how to get around that one

[gilded veldt]

Nice, but I'm still a real beginner, lvl 2

Been doing lot's of offline raids and scav raids

[oak timber]

yeah im with you im lvl 4

Scav ones are actually my fav ones

[median kraken]

@odd token what region you from?

[gilded veldt]

yeah, just did a scavvy run

[median kraken]

scav runs are great through the earlygame, wish they would improve into the lategame, though.

[odd token]

America, Mountain time zone

[oak timber]

@gilded veldt i did too im waiting on the time to get done so i can go back in

[median kraken]

perfect.

[elfin gale]

I just killed a scav named Legolas lmao

[gilded veldt]

I do a scav run, and then an offline PMC for practice in the meantime

[opal moth]

if i upgrade my account to another edition do i have to restart

[heavy trail]

That’s awesome guys , I’m also new, level 3 and trying to learn woods

How’s shoreline for beginners?

[gilded veldt]

I hear words and pretty unforgiving, and I hear if you upgrade you don't start from scratch

[barren trellis]

why is there so many quests on interchange. such a shitty dark map.
and so few on reserve

[oak timber]

@heavy trail i like shoreline pretty straight forward if you or @gilded veldt want help to leard shoreline im down to help

[cinder hound]

Interchange quests are so easy tho

[heavy trail]

That’s awesome and yes I would love to learn shoreline and I’m online right now.

[cinder hound]

Way better than shoreline ones

[gilded veldt]

@oak timber Well, sure why not? I guess I'll just download the map, I'd like to learn it

[oak timber]

ok my name is the same on there as it is here and @gilded veldt what you mnea download it

[heavy trail]

What’s easier woods or shoreline?

[gilded veldt]

just get it from the wiki

[oak timber]

oh ok yeah i have them on my phone

[gilded veldt]

is there a penalty for disconnecting an offline raid?

[oak timber]

i even have a second screen dont know why i dont have it pulled up wheni play

[gilded veldt]

@oak timber I use my second screen just for the map lol

[oak timber]

@gilded veldt i didnt even think about doing that'

[gilded veldt]

just give me a moment @oak timber and I'll join you

[oak timber]

@gilded veldt ok bet @heavy trail are you coming as well

[brittle mesa]

aight so im confused

for the lunchbox quest for jeager

if i find the thing off of another pmc, does it not count?:

[oak timber]

@gilded veldt is your name the same on tarkov

[gilded veldt]

yeah, it is

[oak timber]

Sent request

@heavy trail you as well

So do you have to kill 5 people and bring Prapor 2 of those shotguns for his quest

[gilded veldt]

I do

Where did you send the request?

[oak timber]

In game

Look at the messenger tab at the bottom

[gilded veldt]

got it

[oak timber]

ok i sent one on discord as well

[gilded veldt]

got that too

[granite pewter]

i died to lvndmark :D

[manic meadow]

Anyone around to just run some raids or scav runs? Im a complete noob and really only know how to kill stuff lmao. all help is appreciated!

[granite pewter]

POG

[wind gulch]

I see no issues

[deft stratus]

Just got an mdr at level 6

Pretty happy today

[native tartan]

anyone wanna help me get my scav kills on woods?

[drifting jolt]

Not to be an ass... but how do we help you kill shit?

[bold kernel]

how does begginner assitance work can i join any call

[drifting jolt]

just pop in when there's a space, it's not guaranteed that they'll help with exactly what you need, but they'll answer questions

[native tartan]

i mainly was just wondering if anyone wants to run woods with me because i hardly know the map

[drifting jolt]

gotcha... that's better to ask 🙂

[native tartan]

alright

[drifting jolt]

you could also try #pvp-lfg and see if anyone minds you tagging along

[native tartan]

sounds good

[sand wolf]

paying 2 bitcoins if you have a shroud mask on your scav msg me!

[bold kernel]

Yeah its solid on customs, Was using one on customs as more of a budget loadout and was doing good. If youre using 995, which is in the chamber you'll shred easily. What lvl are you

how many rubles you got? 995 is really fuckin expensive lmao

[native tartan]

when do you get your first peace keeper quest?

[bold kernel]

Once you finish a quest from skier called "friend from the west part 2"

[native tartan]

thanks

[bold kernel]

all g

[reef adder]

how much are gpus selling for

[cinder hound]

like

1.5mil

[reef adder]

alr thanks

[cinder hound]

1.333

to be exact

[barren trellis]

was the # of scavs on sshoreline nerfed?

i cant find any in their normal spawn spots

[drifting jolt]

they just increased it 2 days ago

[barren trellis]

"increased"

what... are u sure?

[drifting jolt]

100%

[barren trellis]

none of the normal spawns have scavs

[drifting jolt]

scavs dont HAVE to be at where they spawn... it's random

maybe your luck is shit that raid

[barren trellis]

i just checked power. the bus station. the village near tunnel escape. third raid in a row with zero scavs

somethings bugged

bus station normally has 3

power normally has 1 sniper and 1-2running around below

[drifting jolt]

shrugs just unlucky

or they hadnt spawned yet, or someone killed them

[barren trellis]

🤷‍♂️

scavs have been buggered since the new patch with "increased scavs" lol

[final hill]

I've had the same issue

[drifting jolt]

it was just shoreline, and it was a lone addition, not part of the patch, if im not mistkaen

It didnt require a patch to do so

[final hill]

"increased scavs" Legit see 1 in a 40 minute raid

[barren trellis]

yeah its weird

idk what they did lol

so much for scav killing quests

also the glitch where your leg stam will go up when walking but not couch, is weird

[drifting jolt]

hadnt seen that yet

[barren trellis]

really?

yeah its wierd

u gain leg stam while walking but not crouch walking

[thorny thicket]

whats better for scav case in hideout paying with moonshine or intel? what has better rewards

[drifting jolt]

more $ = better rewards

[tiny stag]

can I sort my inventory without it moving my cases?

[drifting jolt]

no, but that might be an upcoming feature

[tiny stag]

cool as, ty mote

[drifting jolt]

np

[eager yarrow]

i restarted my pc and the whole wazoo but im still getting backend errors???

wont even let me load into the game

[keen pier]

Hey can anyone help me with some beginner tasks? Im EU btw

[random estuary]

so any way to get good at aiming in this game other than offline raids?

[drifting jolt]

could be problems with your servers... try manually changing the server youre on and see if that helps

[night wave]

can someone help me with my task?

[mighty knoll]

Which task

[night wave]

for prspor im really new

prapor

[mighty knoll]

I'm guessing you mean the kill 5 scavs on customs?

[night wave]

yea

i cant find any and keep dying to pmcs

[mighty knoll]

I really despise customs lol, I would have to suggest going into an offline customs raid and memorizing the spawns of scavs. A big place to find them is the construction zone near the bridge

[median kraken]

bridge, the RUAF roadblock and near machinery key are GREAT for those scav kills

i could prolly take you around in about 30 after im done with some reserve

ill lyk

[bitter mountain]

hey, why are OFZ shells so expensive?

[median kraken]

crafting nades in the hideout

[bitter mountain]

thats worth it?

[keen pier]

Yo can anyone help me with a couple tasks on woods?

[silver hornet]

It's used for crafting M995 as well @bitter mountain

[median kraken]

oh yeah good point, forgot about the m995 craft

[bitter mountain]

oh ok that makes sense

[clear kelp]

Need help getting beginner quests done. Game has been brutal and can't figure out how to get these done without getting deleted.

[tiny stag]

default vss - do u guys find the recoil kinda too much?

[dawn geyser]

Without a foregrip yeah

[mystic crag]

is there a difference between the brown and black exfil helmets?

[dawn geyser]

Tan one cannot take a face shield - If you intend on running NODS it won't matter

[mystic crag]

ah ok

[molten spruce]

What’s the best things to craft in the hideout for good profit

[crude rain]

who should i give the 0052 to skier or therapist?

[dawn geyser]

Skier

[crude rain]

is there a big difference?

or is it cause its easier to get rep with therapist

[dawn geyser]

Rep easier for Therapist

[crude rain]

ok thought so

thank you

[dawn geyser]

^^

[crude rain]

is it worth it to buy some stuff for the Small S.I.C.C case?

[dawn geyser]

Yes I bought most of my items for it

[crude rain]

cause i bought 10 nails 4 paracord

i wasnt sure if that was good or not

[dawn geyser]

I bought most of my materials for it

Very worth it

[sweet shard]

How do I play this game?

[dawn geyser]

Watch youtube videos

[crude rain]

also do i need to do the name how you have it?

[dawn geyser]

Do the name?

Oh no, it's just for convenience

So people don't ask me =p

[crude rain]

Got it

Im sorry Kwon i just really liked the way it was set up

[elfin portal]

will workbench still work if i turn my generator back off

[dawn geyser]

Yes will just work more slowly

[elfin portal]

ok

[dawn geyser]

Lav. will work as normal

[elfin portal]

ok thanks

[dawn geyser]

[alpine meteor]

Can anyone adopt and me? I want to play this game but I suck ass and know it.

[drifting jolt]

legitimately the best thing you do is keep trying and trying and trying

you need tons of experience before you start getting positive results

but playing with others definitely doesnt hurt

however, playing solo is DEFINITELY the best way to learn

[dawn geyser]

This is Tarkov - If you go into every raid expecting to die, you'll have a better time

While you're learning anyways

[drifting jolt]

^

[alpine meteor]

the couple times I've played with people I felt like I learned more because I feel like the thing I am worst at is knowing where the exits are

[drifting jolt]

maps bro

[alpine meteor]

you don't understand

hahaha

[drifting jolt]

if you just follow someone you learn so little

dont understand what? you cant read a map? lol

[alpine meteor]

not well, no

[drifting jolt]

face palm kids these days lol

[dawn geyser]

Even people like shroud, he was having problems with the game and didn't like it because he was being carried around and just being told where to go

Eventually he came back to the game solo and had a much better time and learned so much quicker

[alpine meteor]

Shroud is not playing the same game as me no matter how much I play it

[dawn geyser]

Are you having a problem with Customs right now?

[alpine meteor]

idk I did a scav run and had like 8 minutes to find an exit and then walked in a circle and went MIA

[drifting jolt]

Solo lets you take the game at your own pace, and when you die the only person you can blame is yourself... AND you get to shoot anythign that moves without fear of it being a teammate

[dawn geyser]

You had a map open?

[alpine meteor]

yeah I watched a video of every exit before going in too

[drifting jolt]

oof

[dawn geyser]

So you double tapped "O" and you still couldn't find the exit?

[alpine meteor]

yep

[dawn geyser]

I don't say this much but you'll have to try harder

Just keep trying man

If you want, you can screenshot where you are and i'll mark it on the map for you

Just keep doing it eventually you'll learn

[drifting jolt]

@alpine meteor I spent 250 hours in game before i felt halfway comfortable with PvP, and probably at least 20+ raids on most maps to memorize all the extracts

[alpine meteor]

I mean I know I'll get better if I practice, I'm just looking for people to play with, and I'm prefacing that by saying I have the sense of direction of a blind puppy

[drifting jolt]

join a beginners assistance voice chat and just hang out

or use #pvp-lfg

[dawn geyser]

Try just joining a voice call

But when you do it, please at least have a map next to you and ask where you are to them

People in those channels are generally pretty patient

Not all of them are friendly though since it's public

[drifting jolt]

and learn to actually read the maps lol

[sand wolf]

where did yall get shroud mask?

[dawn geyser]

Found it off of a scav

[drifting jolt]

scavs, caches, scav case in hideout

[dawn geyser]

I've found 4 this raid

I mean wipe

lol raid

[sand wolf]

i've been looking for it for a week :/

[drifting jolt]

they're not as rare as some of the other collector quest items, dont know why youre having so much trouble lol

[sand wolf]

i've hit like 80 stashes and 300 scavs

im on kappa quest

[drifting jolt]

sorry 😦

[dawn geyser]

Is the shroud mask your final Kappa?

[sand wolf]

sadge

[dawn geyser]

Only one I had trouble with was the firesteel

[sand wolf]

well i need sprats and fireklean but that takes less than 3 raids

[drifting jolt]

Like the badge is hard af to find... ive only found 1 in 2k hours of playing

[sand wolf]

wtf its all over i got mine in 11sr 310 east wing and managers office

[drifting jolt]

the medallion thingy is rarer too

[dawn geyser]

Yeah I don't run locked rooms though

Which explains why you've found firesteel and i've found Shroud masks

[sand wolf]

sounds about right lol

[drifting jolt]

me neither, only key i use regularly is factory key or #21WS, otherwise i dont really ever go to locked rooms

you can make sooo much money without risking your shit

[sand wolf]

i have like atleast 5 keys for every map that i prioritize

[dawn geyser]

That's the container on top of other containers right?

[drifting jolt]

yup

[dawn geyser]

Ah

[sand wolf]

yeah it has 12 slots

[dawn geyser]

Considered getting it

[drifting jolt]

i make shit tons on that key

[dawn geyser]

Interesting

[drifting jolt]

then when it has 1 use left, craft it into a safe room key

[sand wolf]

yeah i've completed every quest without finding a single shroud mask

[drifting jolt]

pulled skeleton grip, 100k suppressor and trooper armor from it one raid yesterday, and a ton of other random mods

was like a 600k swipe

[sand wolf]

i've got to the point where im ready to pay people bitcoins to give me one off their scav or run with me to get one lol

[drifting jolt]

how about a handjob?

[dawn geyser]

[sand wolf]

we only do blowies...

[dawn geyser]

oh.

This just went

[drifting jolt]

rusty trombone?

[sand wolf]

🏓

[median kraken]

just got elite endurance hype af

no more apnea!

[dawn geyser]

Grats!

[median kraken]

gonna go for elite stress resist while getting leet surgery

[pastel flare]

can anyone help me with doing customs?

[median kraken]

berzerk mode is something i need in my life

berserk mode*

[sudden idol]

ANYONE WANNA PLAY IM LVL 9

[dawn geyser]

HOW ABOUT YOU TRY #pvp-lfg

[median kraken]

THATS PROBABLY A SMARTER IDEA

lmfao

[dawn geyser]

Hahaha

[median kraken]

kwon, you seem like a pro gamer

how long is berserk mode at elite stress resist

theres no accepted number anywhere

i've been given estimates from 1 minute to 6 seconds

[elfin swallow]

wtf how

[dawn geyser]

That I have no clue

[elfin swallow]

man im like 9 levels ahead of you and nowhere close to elite

[median kraken]

im REALLY curious, because the effect is 60% dr and double or more speed

[dawn geyser]

Run around like a monkey! Just play the game haha

[elfin swallow]

someones been hatchet runnin a bit

[median kraken]

@elfin swallow hatchiling

lmfao

im a reserve hatchling

[elfin swallow]

yeah i could assume

[median kraken]

mfw 16m roubles in cash

all keys

[elfin swallow]

bro hatchet running is not the way to make money

[median kraken]

yes it is. i make easily 2m an hour

[drifting jolt]

hatchet running, to me, is just about the most boring possible way to play, no matter how much $ im making

[median kraken]

i give rebels away to my discord server kek

[dawn geyser]

He probably doesn't do all the quests which is why he's low level

[elfin swallow]

same

[median kraken]

im pretty happy with it, its pretty tense getting out of encounters

[drifting jolt]

yeah, i like GETTING into encounters lol

[elfin swallow]

its fun if you do it for 1-2 raids as a joke but other than that its like why

[dawn geyser]

I couldn't do hatchet running

[median kraken]

see i do too, but i dont want to spend 300k in gear to get head eyes'ed instantly by a chad

[pale marsh]

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do you know what kind of attachments can and should go on a gun? I want to start putting on sights and other stuff on my guns but i am not really sure how to figure it out.

[elfin swallow]

LOL MAN

[dawn geyser]

Do you have level 10?

[median kraken]

@pale marsh i can help you out.

[drifting jolt]

'linked search' the gun, that's a good place to start

[median kraken]

whats your vendor level and main level

[elfin swallow]

i would put a sight onto my gun at first, then go for a flashlight

[dawn geyser]

lol hold on before we barrage him with answers

Are you level 10 yet

[pale marsh]

Im not level 10 yet, maybe only level 5

[elfin swallow]

if you are doing ak's buy a bastion and you can put a sight on it

[pale marsh]

today was my first day playing

pretty much

[dawn geyser]

Then you have to wait until level 10 to figure out modding effectively

[median kraken]

😄

[elfin swallow]

ah man you should stick to iron sights for a bit, work on getting workbench level 1 my man @pale marsh

[median kraken]

there is some cheap ways for level 1 vendors no reqs to at least patch it up

[pale marsh]

alright, i just feel naked bringing in a gun with iron sights

but as long as i know that im not missing out on anything at this point

[drifting jolt]

everyone had to do it... just hope to get lucky and kill things with sights on the gun already

[elfin swallow]

@pale marsh skier level 1 you can buy a bastion, you put that on an ak and you can slap a sight onto it

[median kraken]

or you can get a ekp-02 and dovetail mount that boy

[pale marsh]

i understand, i just wanted to make sure i wasnt the only one putting myself at a disadvantage at this point in the game

[dawn geyser]

If your gun has a default picatinny rail , or a dovetail mount, you can buy an EKP sight from prapor.

[pale marsh]

ty

[elfin swallow]

^

[dawn geyser]

YOU CAN BUY A BASTION FROM SKIER L1 NOW?

[pale marsh]

alright, i will check that

[dawn geyser]

Mind=blown

[median kraken]

ekp's are my chill sight, throw that on a 30k ash 12, melt killa

profit

[elfin swallow]

lol man this rarely happens anymore

when it does happen it hurts but you can prevent it

[median kraken]

pretty much 99% of the time i bring in gear even altyns i get eyes

[pale marsh]

is level 10 flea market that important?

[median kraken]

YES.

very much so

[dawn geyser]

Rarely happens? Ar we playin the same game O_o

Yes before level 10, it is Tarkov's prologue

[pale marsh]

i just assumed everything was through vendors lol

[elfin swallow]

you're talkin to the guy that wears an altyn almost every raid so yeah it rarely happens 😂

[dawn geyser]

Once you get level 10, come back here and someone will tell you how to mod

[median kraken]

i get head eye'd every time i wear an altyn

or i get legged by a vector with hp's

[pale marsh]

alright, thanks guys

[dawn geyser]

It is hard to tell you right now while you can't see anything

[median kraken]

honestly i gear up ONLY for jaeger tasks, so i just get fucked by customs chads

[elfin swallow]

really? my altyn always eats a ton of bullets before i go down

i have multiple face shields i just cant see out of bc vector rounds cant melt class 5

[dawn geyser]

You get legged by Vectors with HPs?

[median kraken]

4 times, all camping old gas

[dawn geyser]

I have not even seen a guy running flesh lmao

[median kraken]

after i had the tt for jaeger

[elfin swallow]

vector users too busy eaten their crayons to know how to aim for the legs

[median kraken]

my surv rate on customs is like 2%

[drifting jolt]

I like the red ones

[dawn geyser]

LOL no way it's that low

[median kraken]

versus hatchling reserve is upper 30s

im not even kidding

[dawn geyser]

Wait you hatchling

nvm

[median kraken]

scavs one shot me pretty much every time i peek

not on customs

i run fully kitted on customs

exfil camped CONSTANTLY

always stupid shit

i hate customs cause bs happens to me

[dawn geyser]

lol what!? I never get exfil camped

[elfin swallow]

now vector with rip rounds boy that thing hot 🥴

[dawn geyser]

You really are unlucky

[elfin swallow]

^

[median kraken]

i literally died after bringing in a zabralo and a fucking rys-t

[elfin swallow]

ive gotten extract camped once and he wasnt even extract camping

he was camping inside of power when i went to go turn it on

[median kraken]

legged, another fucking rip vector

[dawn geyser]

I know they raised vector by 30k but

It still needs to be raised by another 50k

It's just too good out of the box

[elfin swallow]

rj maybe you are running into places and not following like the "flow" of the map

[elfin swallow]

nah we will just price the adar at 45k

[median kraken]

i mean im not not follwing the flow of the map

there is only one flow

[elfin swallow]

[median kraken]

l to r or r to l

[dawn geyser]

[median kraken]

every time i exfil theres some fucking smoothbrain with some shit at exfil

[elfin swallow]

do you play na or eu @median kraken

[median kraken]

na-c

[elfin swallow]

weiirrrd

i have never been extract camped on na lmao

i cant speak for eu

[median kraken]

customs just fucks me

[dawn geyser]

Me neither

[median kraken]

i literally get camped less at d2 than old gas

[dawn geyser]

Are you rushing quest and rushing out? @median kraken

[median kraken]

literally checking rashsala spawns and exfiling or slowing down and helping beginners

[elfin swallow]

LMAO actually I did get extract camped this wipe, during the first week when i was trying to do bunker pt 1 and bunker pt 2

[median kraken]

every time i help beginners i get one shot by a scav.

[elfin swallow]

luckily made it out of both

[median kraken]

peek and die

buckshot ofc

[dawn geyser]

lol

[median kraken]

the times i decide not to use a faceshield

[dawn geyser]

You must be sitting exposed for a while

[median kraken]

no i mean i peek then instantly get headshot

first shot of the scav

[dawn geyser]

Interesting

[median kraken]

less than half a second

[elfin swallow]

hm

Bro run altyn+m1ri

rig

i think that will be good for you

[dawn geyser]

You have perma Cursed & Tagged from your hatchling runs

[median kraken]

im already running the rys-t and zabralo that aint good enough for you kek

[elfin swallow]

Its just heavy but you do have elite end

[median kraken]

yeah, and im gonna go for leet str at the same time i grab elite stress health and surgery

[elfin swallow]

and also really expensive for what it is

not worth imo

[median kraken]

yeah, but same price as slick full prot

im pretty happy with how its worked, i just got legged when i used it

[elfin swallow]

maybe you are just cursed from hatchet runs lmao

[median kraken]

maybe

but i never die to scavs on hatchet runs

its fucking weird

[dawn geyser]

Probably just you changing your playstyle lol

You're not going to try and kill scavs as a hatchling

[median kraken]

i mean, i go into all the scav spanws

spawns

no ones there

and im marked and cursed

i mean i dont even encounter scavs

with elite endurance and filter with +40% physical in hideout i dont need sj6 before i hit max with shotty shells right?

for max exp

[elfin swallow]

not sure man, never had a elite skill before but this is my first wipe where im probably gonna

also think this is gonna be my first wipe for kappa

[median kraken]

im gonna get adik ez clap

ash is broken against killa

75k total

melts through his armour instantly

one taps his thorax most of the time

[dawn geyser]

Excuse me?! Jaeger T7 thermals are out of stock?

[median kraken]

yes, they've been out every reset

[dawn geyser]

People actually buy those thermals for 13.8m?!

Oh is it just not stocked?

[median kraken]

its like 10 stock

the streamers picking it up

[dawn geyser]

Oh wow really no wonder

[median kraken]

sorta like the thera gas can trade

[dawn geyser]

I've never seen it up

What do you even trade for it?>

[elfin swallow]

the first 30 minutes of me getting on tarkov is me fighting to buy metal fuel

[median kraken]

i've got 8 metal cans extra

cause reserve hatchling in the bunker

you find them constantly

[elfin swallow]

Lucky man

i need to play some reserve later and get some aesa's

[median kraken]

aesas arent the big cash atm

1m+ bunker raids in the hemo bunker

[elfin swallow]

I dont need them for money

[median kraken]

i rarely get aesas

and i got all keys kek

[elfin swallow]

i havent needed money for a long time

[median kraken]

make the money buy em off flea

[elfin swallow]

i just dont want to pay for em

if i can find em

[median kraken]

they're way rarer than its worth grabbing them, i've gotten 3 over 400 runs

and i check 75%+ spawns in a good run

[elfin swallow]

i dont wanna shell out the 8-10 mil to buy em and drop past 30 mil

im trying to save up for red keycard or find it

if i could find it, that would be so good

[median kraken]

red key isn't that good imo

[elfin swallow]

Its not about if the key is good or not

its the flex of having it

[median kraken]

green is M U C H better right now anyways

not really a flex

more common than last wipe no?

[elfin swallow]

rarely more common

this wipe so far ive found 2 blacks

1 in a jacket on customs and the other on a cultist

[median kraken]

🤷 honestly idrc about labs keys, for me its practical value

and labs has no practical value to me atm

i can make more on reserve without an entry fee

[drifting jolt]

i jsut dont like the map itself

labs isnt fun imo

[median kraken]

i agree

[dawn geyser]

What do you bring in your pouch out of curiosity

[median kraken]

me?

[dawn geyser]

Yeah

[drifting jolt]

lots of lube

[elfin swallow]

take a pic of the key

[dawn geyser]

LOL

[elfin swallow]

s

[median kraken]

what pouch?

i run a couple kek

[drifting jolt]

for when i get fucked

[elfin swallow]

ur prison pocket

[dawn geyser]

Your alpha/gamma

Pouch

[median kraken]

no i meant like which kit.

like customs or hatchling

[dawn geyser]

Hatchling

[median kraken]

i stopped bringing a couple keys, and cleaned up my key set

because they werent performing or already looted

[dawn geyser]

You bring a full butthole?

O-o

And a backpack?

[median kraken]

yeah, but its enough for me

[barren trellis]

why wouldnt u bring a full butthole?

[median kraken]

yes, i have rebel kek

[dawn geyser]

I didn't know hatchlings bring full buttholes

[median kraken]

most bring empty assholes

but i personally have enough of an SR to not care about my anal cavity

[elfin swallow]

whats ur s/r

[median kraken]

25% overall

customs dropped a nuke on it

and interchange hatchling didn't help it either

i get 40-50% on reserve

[elfin swallow]

and what do u think it would be without hatchet runnin

[median kraken]

prolly lower because i'd play more aggressive

and i'd have made less cash

[elfin swallow]

Bro sometimes you gotta play to live man 😂

[median kraken]

i to play to live

elite skills and passing out rebels like candy

gives me the enjoyability factor

literally gave away 5 rebels to my friends today

[elfin swallow]

gj gj man

[barren trellis]

wish bosses were easier to kill. gotta kill sherman 25 times and thats dumbbbb

[elfin swallow]

i get the rush when i dominate another player

[median kraken]

i mean dont get me wrong

[dawn geyser]

Wait what passing out rebels?

[elfin swallow]

@barren trellis if bosses were easier people just farm em

[dawn geyser]

Where do you get other rebels?

[elfin swallow]

I mean shtruman is already easy enough

[barren trellis]

how

[elfin swallow]

you get in his face and you can drop him in 3 seconds

Literally just hold w key at shrtuman

[dawn geyser]

He doesn't have armor

[barren trellis]

lol ok bud

[dawn geyser]

He's not that bad

[elfin swallow]

^

Doesn't have armor and only has two guards

[barren trellis]

litterally look at him, get 2 shot

[median kraken]

barter on jaeger 2

[elfin swallow]

I played with a guy that exclusivly ran straight at him with a ppsh to farm him

[dawn geyser]

Try and kill him at range

[median kraken]

i pass them out pretty much every reset

[elfin swallow]

the problem is you are fighting him at range you dont wanna do that

you want your gun in his face

[dawn geyser]

LOL

[unborn compass]

i have a question

[median kraken]

ash-12 is perfect for sturman elimination

[dawn geyser]

People have different ways

[dawn geyser]

Shoot

[unborn compass]

how did i get posined

[elfin swallow]

example, watch pestilys stream where he is farming shtruman

[median kraken]

@dawn geyser you got rebel?

[elfin swallow]

LMAO CULTIST

hahaha

[dawn geyser]

Were you running night time?

[unborn compass]

like i dont wanna pay 50k lol

yes

[dawn geyser]

Night time has cultists that have poison knives

That's a penalty of running nighttime lol

[elfin swallow]

you got to, thats the only way to get rid of it other than buying an antidote @unborn compass

[median kraken]

the poision kills within 1 minute

[unborn compass]

oh that guy that came and stabbed me huh , i got so scared

[dawn geyser]

Yeah haha I do, my brother gave me his before he went to AF

[elfin swallow]

Haha man how was it?

[dawn geyser]

LOL

[median kraken]

@elfin swallow got a rebel gamer?

[dawn geyser]

My first encounter with a cultist was scary as well

[unborn compass]

i thought it was just a weirdo i was running with a knife trying to learn woods lol

i was getting jumped and i wondered why i died after like 2 stabbs

[elfin swallow]

I dont run reserves enough to make use out of it, my pc is too bad im just trying to figure out how im gonna complete shooter born in heaven on reserves

its my last map

[unborn compass]

ok imma buy an antidote ig lol

[median kraken]

i can cheese it for you kek

[sonic edge]

HI ALL I NEED SUMWHON TO HELP ME MAKE SOME CASH I AM EU AND A GOOD LISNER AND LIKE AKTION DM ME IF YOU CAN HELP

[dawn geyser]

I did mine at the tail end

Sorry I got distracted by caps lock

I did mine at the tail end of the helicopter building

[elfin swallow]

Im thinking of just setting up somewhere near manhole and dropping a backpack at manhole

[barren trellis]

yeah sherman is like impossible. every time i poke my head over the sawmill ridge i just get ass blasted. cant even get close or look at where he is. happned like 5 times and gave up

[dawn geyser]

Left top floor

[elfin swallow]

wait for some cheeky rat to open it up

and thats when i get him

[dawn geyser]

It's exactly 100m from that building to drop room across

[median kraken]

i totally have been thoraxed by you then kwon

[elfin swallow]

@barren trellis You got to flank from cover to cover to try and get close to him

[sonic edge]

can anion help me make some fat stonks if yess dm me

[dawn geyser]

LOL Rj

[median kraken]

ifak_my_sister is my ign i swear you've done me dirty that way

[elfin swallow]

ifak?

[dawn geyser]

LMAO THAT NAME

[elfin swallow]

Ive totally seen you in lobby before

[barren trellis]

hard to flank when dont know where he is. and its dumb that if ur in a bush you are dead too

[median kraken]

yeah my full 5man is all coordinate

we have ifak my uncle, sister, cousin, brother, mother, and a +1 father

[dawn geyser]

oh lordie

[median kraken]

we had fun with the naming scheme

[elfin swallow]

maybe dont try farming him then, the best advice i can give to you is run something that does a ton of flesh damage so rip ammo/t-45m/warmage and flank, play like if you know hes there and just be very cautious

the hard part shouldn't be killing shtruman

the hard part is getting out with his loot

[median kraken]

🙂

im gonna do my 25 on night raids with monocular and a mosin

thats the plan anyways

[barren trellis]

oh idc about the loot. and other pmc's are easy to kill on woods. my quest is just to kill him 25 times

[median kraken]

either that or day raids and nuking his face in with an ASH-12

[barren trellis]

why ash12?

[elfin swallow]

you dont have to do that quest just opens up buying that big ass elephant gun @barren trellis

[torn ledge]

Watch the beard oil dude's guide to killing shturman. He covers it really well.

[barren trellis]

okay ill check that out

[median kraken]

ash-12 has hella flesh, good firerate, and you can keep the recoil just fine

since your cqc'ing him to cheese him

ezpz

[sonic edge]

can anion help me make some fat stonks if yess dm me

[dawn geyser]

#pvp-lfg

[elfin swallow]

Whats ur S/r

[barren trellis]

next, suggestion on how to get the sniper born in heaven completed? i never find people over 100m away

[dawn geyser]

Not very high

65

[elfin swallow]

lol man

@barren trellis is this ur first wipe

if so, i wouldnt really worry about doing shooter born

[barren trellis]

yes

[elfin swallow]

yeah

dont worry about doing it

[barren trellis]

y>

[elfin swallow]

it will just be very difficult and frustrating for you

its an endgame task you get at the start of the game

bc you are suppose to work on it over alot of time

[dawn geyser]

I didn't finish my shooter born in heaven until this wipe
I have been playing since wipe

I have 1900 hours logged in the game

[elfin swallow]

^

[barren trellis]

interesting.

[elfin swallow]

I've never completed shooter born and i have about 1700 hours logged

this is either my 3rd or fourth wipe

[dawn geyser]

And the only reason I finished it is because I was going for Kappa

[elfin swallow]

^

Focus on doing the other tasks though

[median kraken]

literally just shoved 3 gpus up my ass on interchange after just saying fuck it and doing my strength training through hatchlings here

[elfin swallow]

the others ones are good and will help you learn the game

[elfin swallow]

haha damn must be nice

[median kraken]

🤷

only level 10 strength

i want 30 at least

then im gonna go for 50 stress

50 health and surgery should come along with it

thats fucking annoying, elite endurance straight up lies to you in its effect

says no apnea

character still apneas

[dawn geyser]

I don't think i'm ever going to attain 50 surgery

lmao

[median kraken]

its not that hard

[unborn compass]

what exactly do i buy to get rid of unkown toxin?

[dawn geyser]

39 end, 28 str | Surgery is 4

[median kraken]

51 end 10 str surgery 4

[dawn geyser]

Oh you're the same

[median kraken]

kek

[dawn geyser]

And you want 50 surgery?

' _ '

[median kraken]

its just hard to level intentionally

i want 51

cause its a cool effect

[dawn geyser]

It's a broken effect

[median kraken]

honestly its not what im mainly going for

[dawn geyser]

LMAO

[elfin swallow]

@unborn compass xtg 12

[median kraken]

it comes along with 51 stress

i REALLY hope the 51 stress effect aint broken

it gives me hope when your effect is literally fucking called berserk mode

sign me up for that shit

[elfin swallow]

yea u go for beserk mode

im going for elite immunity

[median kraken]

🧠

immune to poision

huh. this just seems like another moneysink skill

whats the cheapest stim on the market

[elfin swallow]

what skill is a money sink?

[median kraken]

yeah thats actually a good point, im gonna go for whatever immune level comes along with popping 2 cheap stims at the start of every raid when im breaking my legs for 50 stress and hopefully 50 surgery

[elfin swallow]

if ur trying to do stress resist idk if it works anymore but dehydration

[median kraken]

honestly, not many of them anymore

im gonna break my legs for surgery

so i get the points from that anyways

[elfin swallow]

dehydration will make you take dmg the entire time+ spam surgery

[median kraken]

good point

looks like im buying out the mayo market

i dont know specifically what that zerk mode does

but from what people tell me

[elfin swallow]

Speed boost

[median kraken]

and dr from what i've heard

[elfin swallow]

possibly makes u unkillable

uncomfirmed

[median kraken]

but theres no numbers

[elfin swallow]

and u take alot less damage

[median kraken]

not unkillable, but like 60% dr

60-80%

how long is the duration?

[elfin swallow]

probably for a few seconds

maybe 10-15?

[median kraken]

i would assume 5-10

🤷

sounds op asf

[elfin swallow]

enough to make you kill the guy that did that to you lmfao

[median kraken]

suprising most people dont try to go for it

exactly, wonder if it has a cooldown

i assume so

[elfin swallow]

knowing bsg

probably doesn;t

[median kraken]

since otherwise it'd be like absurd dr on anything that doesnt one shot you

Huh...

Yeah uhh

Looks like next 150 hours of my life will be money sink

Worth in the end imo

[sour heron]

wooo ha

and here I was complaining about the guy in front of me who was opening everything..

[jaunty spire]

What does ergonomics do to your gun

[harsh socket]

2021 tarkov meta be like

[elfin swallow]

it changes how fast you can aim down sights, how long you can aim down sights for and some other things abt it

but those are the two main

@jaunty spire

[sour heron]

😄 my 1st wipe

[elfin swallow]

lmao the start of this wipe i could buy blue flue for 20k

and metal for 30

[jaunty spire]

Ohh ty

[harsh socket]

Well let's just say fuel prices have never been this high before

How overpowered the bitcoin farm is really changed the economy this wipe

[sour heron]

oh wow!! good info. beautiful chart. what website or too are you using?

I wish I could keep 1/2 for my base and sell the other 1/2

[harsh socket]

Hope I don't get cucked by a bot for sending this ▶️ https://tarkov-market.com/item/Expeditionary_fuel_tank

I paid the 5 euro a month Patreon. It's a super valuable resource so I don't mind supporting them

[sour heron]

awesome. I like that. Now that I am older and have money I also like to support Developers.

[harsh socket]

[sour heron]

I think my goal for today is to learn to camp an extract.

🤣

question is, do I camp early.. or get in around the 7min left mark....

locked and loaded by 6 minutes

[elfin swallow]

simply dont extract camp

[dawn geyser]

^

[mighty knoll]

^

[harsh socket]

You're not going to learn the game by extract camping

[sour heron]

I just got extract camped. oh well. had the fuel up my butt.

Road to Customs... camped.

[mighty knoll]

That's a shame

[sour heron]

thats the bad part of running a sniper rifle/pistol.. is I had no chance against his SMG

[mighty knoll]

Then use an SMG 🙂

[harsh socket]

Started rocking the MP7, loving it

[mighty knoll]

I like MP9 and P90, very gud

MP7 is good, ammo is expensive tho

[elfin swallow]

p90 is a great weapon

personally i love using it and i dont even use ss190

[sour heron]

I threw the fuel in my Generator. And see that I now have a 0/60 empty fuel container. is this refillable?

[elfin swallow]

No it isnt refillable

you can either keep the container to use in a craft

or just vendor it

two empty blue flues and some nuts and bolts will end you up with a magbox

from lav level 2

[sour heron]

ok awesome

[rustic glade]

First ever bitcoin farm is up and running.

[elfin swallow]

Pog!

[somber cove]

this jeager guy really knows how to hide his note, can anyone help me 🙂

[sour heron]

wooot 👏 👏

[elfin swallow]

@somber cove You should join one of the woods vc's and ask for help finding it

have you found the spot where his note is but just cant extract?

[somber cove]

i think i found it

but i cant survive a second in woods

my head is sniper magnet

its under a log right?

in a cabin

[mighty knoll]

Its under a tree stand

Near the plane crash

[elfin swallow]

^

[sour heron]

speaking of P90's sounds like I might as well keep this part around.

[dawn geyser]

You won't find a P90 without that upper receiver lol

[sour heron]

ahh goood to know

[elfin swallow]

yeah

P90 is great, personally use sb193 as you can get it for super cheap and reliably

[mighty knoll]

sb193?

[elfin swallow]

mhm

[mighty knoll]

I've always used ss190

[dawn geyser]

P90 is scary, I always run Ss190

[mighty knoll]

Is it just a price difference?

Or is sb193 actually better?

[dawn geyser]

No 190 is better

[elfin swallow]

the diff between sb193 and ss190 is the same as bs and igolnick

[mighty knoll]

Ah

I prefer BS lmao

I never use igolnick

[elfin swallow]

sb 193 has more pen but less flesh

ss190 has less pen more more flesh

AND THE THING ABOUT SB193

is that its subsonic

actually wait im wrong on that info, sb193 has more damage and less pen, the pen diff is 2 so i dont think its really worth it

u also get -20 recoil from sb193

[ancient kayak]

i am looking for someone who will help me play the game , i bought it yesterday

[dawn geyser]

!sherpahub

[tribal robin]

https://discord.com/invite/sherpahub