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ye just in 1 day u lose everything and the next day ur rich
lmao i bought EFT and my laptop cant run it
anyone got any ideas how i could increase my performance?
ikr i somehow out got alive after blundering into a firefight in customs by dorms. leg got shot out, body is 5hp and i had no armor. Somehow survived and extracted at cross roads with a sick gun x'D that feeling is hella dope
@bold kernel did you put all ur settings to min?
yeah i did
at least u lived for a min lol my fastest death was 10 sec
i spawned, someone had a shot gun in my face
i died in 4 seconds earlier today
x'D this game lol i always have like a video or manga qued up just in case I die in like 5 seconds and need to wait for 3 for the game to load back out
AMD Ryzen 5 4500U Hexa-Core Processor with Radeon Graphics, 8GB LPDDR4, 256GB NVMe SSD, WiFi 6
im pretty sure that is better than the min requirement for tarkov y cant u run it? O-o? is it like lag problems or low fps?
low fps and sometimes it jsut disconnects
i have asked about it and they say my graphics card isnt good enough
im super sad cuz EFT looks so fun but whenever i get into a game it either crashes or is unplayable
huh then idk... someone helped me tune my settings and I went from 40~ to like 60 fps and with the recent update i dont get stutters anymore
well unfortunately you dont really have a graphics card, you have what's called integrated graphics
it goes with the CPU (the ryzen 5)
SSD is solid but youl would probably need a better PC to play tarkov in any capacity
damn thanks dude
i have a laptop so do u think i could get a better graphics card or not ?
u monster x'D
thats me
@bold kernel yeah you should get a PC if you ever have a bit of spare cash. you can also either sell the laptop or salvage the drive or ram to use
ok thx
JUST found a graphics card and died T - T
xD
@bold kernel what graphics card do u have
rip
im not sure
how can u tell?
I don't think he knows what he's asking...
@hardy hamlet they're cheap, but the ammo isn't.
yo anyone down to help me navigate labs, my friend got dc'd
holy shit
i just had a heart attack
i was in a crate on customs and saw a chad run by and he glanced in
then the footsteps stopped
and i heard a light click on
damn it
i hit him twice in the chest
it was the same two chads i saw at the start of the round :((
ok ๐
Any new low lvl want to team up
u NA?
@hardy hamlet SOmetimes you do nothing wrong and still get fucked
Welcome to tarkov
i mean ive been consistently getting fucked toda
Feels
probably you're not learning anything and doing runs over and over and feeding
and frustrating yourself for no good reason
I started yesterday and I just been doing interchange over and over trying to save up some money
Running the outside routes
hello, i just started the game for the first time. Is there any experienced player willing to teach me. I would rly appreciate it. Im 22 yo (sounds like 10) from Croatia EU. (if its not ok to post here i will delete)
@gloomy quarry whenever I money run, I run outside interchange stashes, and I use the #21WS keycard there to get even more cash. Would highly recommend that keycard if youโre running interchange a lot
YOOO TARKOV
I'd like to team up with someone who can teach me customs, I've been practicing but I get lost a lot and extracts are hard to find for a new player
@patent marsh bit late of a response, but i know customs fairly well if you're trying to learn a rat loot path
sounds good. just ping me
no worries we died quickly and painfully @red flame if you wanna teach us now is the time
Wanna hop into say LFG customs 6? or is there something else we should join?
yeah it would just be me and one friend
he's still up so I'll ping you when he's dead/exfil
copy copy. 
@red flame in three man squad #23
what gun were you using
anyone know how to find 42 english blend tea?
SKS
lol
Your game is just totaly messed up first you have plastic ps rounds now more hits
anyone know how to fix the weird audio bug with tarkov? it sound like im playing the game through a plastic tube
maybe try deleting your ini files
T - T did so well this morning and made like a few hundred k and now I die back to back 7 times already .-.
if i insure my bag will it come with the items inside it?
have to reinstall game 
if the stuff inside is insured then maybe
the items inside arent
no, ofc not then ๐
i was wondering if they will be returned if they are inside an insured bag
its not ofc, it could be either way
where can i find wd40 100mL?
it's random junk loot, no fixed location afaik
would you like me to fence some?
yea that would be cool, but i bet someone will buy it first haha
plz
yea that would be awesome!
Iโm ready
ok go look
Even having one gives me hope that my Tetris nightmare will subside
Yea I still need 3. Iโm on barter goods and donโt see any
refresh and it may show up
what does sighting range change?
how far you see
Iโm refreshing. Wonder if it glitched. It said I couldnโt buy all of them and gave me only one
anyway, enjoy ๐
hopefully you get that one
although if you're not lvl10 your stash shouldn't be full anyway, you should just sell some shiet
True, Iโve been selling a lot but now am stocking up rifles to do some xp grinding and questing
I keep getting killed by spawn hunters while trying to do praporโs first quest, so I decided to pile up some guns so I donโt rage quit haha

Very nice (borat voice)
that was over a 250k run
this game lmao
how can i hs someone 3 times with lvl 3 helmet and hes not dead when i use .366 AP ammo
use this
is a east wing room 328 key any good?
Intel items comprise of maps, keys, key cards and other usable items that will help you get ahead of the competition - or at least know where the hell you are in Tarkov. Most of the keys can be used an unlimited number of times. Keys with a limited number of uses have their durability (number of uses remaining) listed in the bottom-right of their icon and on their inspection screen.
ive played 2 weeks and im almost burnt out on this game already, even being in groups they just outpace you and do their own thing half the time it seems
There is a pc and dufflw bag in room
Yeah you just need to get bearings then you can run through the map
dudes like i got you ill show you the ropes knowing i havent run the map runs off and like oh im over at b2 and im like idk where that is lol (get map knowledge) like mf you said youd help me
anyone willing to help me get some items ( need fleet market ) for some quests? ( i can give u the money back )
Isohedral
wait if you put things in your ass it losses found in raid status ?
if u die
hate to ask, but can someone help me on a quick shoreline raid. Im on the uav task for peacekeeper and ive died 3 times in a row and its getting really annoying
Would any beginners or low levels or anyone like to team up ?
There's a medical vehicles on the highway on interchange were u can open the doors can med stuff actually spawn there ive checked around 20 times
Hey anybody up for helping me?
M
anyone want to help me? im level 7 and keep getting killed 30 seconds in the raid
#sherpa-info Check out the Sherpa channel.
anyone need help with anything?
i need rurblers
lol
like the same way anyone else does or like you don't know how to start getting money?
bt is good budget
!ammo
bs or igolnik is good for penetrating high tier armor reliably
BT is good ye
is BP any good?
passable
PRS?
skip it
hmm okay
you can still kill someone with that
just not as effectively
damn dude where are people who need help when you wanna help them

right here XD
:D
@hardy hamlet you tryna run some?
CPU isn't amazing but gpu's are
sure gimme a couple mins tho
also power supply units, powercords, RAM are good
from the PC blocks
hell, even the cpu fans went up to 15k yesterday
cpu fans go up and down in prices every minute
alright im ready-ish when you are
@hardy hamlet have anymore room for 1 more?
im down for as many people as we can get, really up to @primal venture tho
ok @primal venture got room for 1 more
sure gimme a few
ok
can someone come in and help me get lvl 10 please i need to get 6k more xp it would really help me out
ok larry and supreme
join the lobby channel in the sherpa hub discord
it's linked in #sherpa-info
@hardy hamlet @analog raven
@primal venture it wont let me do my rank
it just shakes and doesnt let me accpet imma switch accounts and join
should i get another scav junkbox
anyone know how to get SGA stock for m870? I dont have traders
cant @sand radish
Can I not sell my grenade case, med case, etc too?
ifi ts not found in raid
1 is easily enough unless you're a severe hoarder
or you're the kind of person who doesn't need immediate money and wants to milk everything for as much as you can so you wait for it to peak on the market before selling it kek
good reason to have two is to have one dedicated to crafting, i.e. you can sell PSU for up to 60k but for profitable craft you should aim to buy them at ~30k, same goes for powercords (sell for 35k, buy for 15k), and so on.
if you're playing in a larger groups I would also recommend having dedicated container for attachments you'd like to sell on flea so you don't have to do it right away after the raid - instead you just put misc items to junk box, attachments to a dedicated case, sell the rest to vendors and you should be ready to go again in under one minute
If i switch to EU version does it reset my account?
this way the team won't have wait for you for 10 minutes after each raid
Just sell everything u get and play with pistol only
hey im new to the game and currently playing on a hdd, with this new update will i not be able to play the game anymore?
They only recommend you to install the game on ssd because it will make the game run better/faster
BS or Igolnik?
depends on ur accuracy cause if your gonna hit headshots bs is better
but for body shot Igolnik is better
both wreck
BS will struggle with class 6 armor
igolnik won't
that's the difference really xD
any good 12 gauge preset for Spa Tour Part 1?
153 fraud cannon
Visualization of all ammo types in Escape from Tarkov, along with maps and other great tools
it's only 3 flesh dmg difference per bullet (37 vs 40) so the main difference is the penetration (62 vs 51) and fragmentation chance (0.02 vs 0.17)
Is the headquarters worth upgrading early on or should I spend the money on gear?
invest every single rubble into your upgrading your hideout and leveling up your traders
The hideout can assist in many tasks by being able to craft found in raid items required or tasks
Ok, I've upgraded the hide out a very little bit. Now I just need to find some nuts and bolts. As for upgrading the traders.. is that just by buying items?
with crafts and bitcoin farm you're getting at least a mil a day of passive income and with top tier vendors you'll be able to buy top tier ammo for 300 rubbles a piece or build meta m4 for 300k
Buying and selling items and tasks for reputation
Thats dope
for example if you want to run with mp7 a single magazine will costs you 200k on flea (100k+ per mag itself plus 2k+ per round), vendor will sell you a mag for ~15k and rounds for ~700 rubbles
Any specific order I should try to prioritize the traders? Or just buy and sell as needed?
If you need help @cobalt igloo you're welcome to join my discord
Damn that's expensive. I'm running like 7-12k loadouts rn and I'm scared to lose it. I can't imagine .25 mil loadout
@lament pine link?
sent one over to you bud
also don't miss out on barter trades! the best one for low level is m2 rig from ragman for 4 aquamaris, and the secret is that you can use them before trading to vendor, so you're getting top notch level 4 rig for free
there are plenty more, check here: https://tarkov-market.com/barter
@pure talon awesome, thanks for the advice!
also the leftover rule applies to crafts as well! so you can run your hideout on blue fuel tanks and use the leftovers to craft mag cases, or cycle golden star and ibu for painkillers and use leftovers to craft propital
hi guys! does anyone feel alright playing with a lvl 7? i need a buddy and its hard to find people who are in asia servers...
Should i buy the generator asap or should i just wait?
I rushed it and the med station so I could make Salawas for Therapist
alright
would play but cant do asia sorry
man alright, i dc too often when im on other servers
well let me check
i thought i saw one i could try
im down to try if u want i need to do money runes
runs
uh oh
what??
relaunch game?
yo do reserve not have any stash cash?
i did 3 times lol
f
They added arena by accident; and removing it caused a random bug I guess where customs is gone too LOL
@granite heath No Jeager stashes on reserve.
dang...
also I just got this error now too. What happened with this game overnight? I can't load in
technical update is loading
RIP
They added arena by accident to the map menu
dont go into arena
wth is arena
what you are seeing is the ramifications of them trying to remove it
it was not arena; it was a test enviroment
a closed test enviromnt for textures and assets for Tarkov
not Arena but named 'arena'
one sec let me launch my game
make sure u choose the same server cause i cant do the others
games broke nvm ๐
...yeah game is broken
same....
is there a insta-google-tweet-face page that gives us any kind of updates?
Telegram is where most of the info comes from
The EFT announcement section at the top of this server is what I look at
What can I do with empty fuel tank (metal one)?
you can sell them to some traders i believe
Is there a way to take a specific amount of ammo?
i dont want to take 40 on a raid
oh ok thx
yw
What is better when selecting servers, higher ping or lower ping? Asking because I only selected servers under 40 ping and I keep getting headshotted by players when I've already gotten to cover on my screen
i dont know what to do man someone sitting right next to me but i only have knife
xD
hes making alot noises cuz i think hes dying
Wait for him to die and take his gun then
Run out and stab his ass
No it spreads the damage out to the rest of him
ah fk
unless it is chest or head. then he ded
well hes screaming like a pig so idk what part of him is broken
stomach usually
guess ill just smoke one and see if i'll still be alive
lmao
thanks ninja
he just bleeded to death
nice!
can anyone help me with 'big sale' quest i have done all the shops apart from avokado and top brand
(DM me if you can help)
Lowest ping
That is called desync, and its just Tarkov's problem
You have to live with it
@mellow matrix Dang man, this mosin quest sucks. I don't wanna have to camp in a bush waiting for someone to walk by, but if I cant run back into cover after one shot it's pretty much what I have to do smh
which quest
@frosty compass @mellow matrix The tarkov shooter, keep running into players
WHAT JUST HAPPENED
i killed so many raiders
the last one threw a flash
and it flashed me through a wall
Did you just do that on shoreline?
i was literally behind a meter thick wall, it exploded on the other side and i didnt get blinded but it got all blurry and weird
reserve as a scav :(
i was so close but no, tarkov said fuck you
and then audio bugged i swear i heard the raider on the opposide side
i turned around and got shot in the back the same second
did they rework flashbangs or what
Oh damn, someone killed sanitar and all his bois in resort shoreline and didn't loot anything, got a keycard and lots of gear. Yeah the glitches in this game suck
because if that's what the zaryas do now i am taking them instead of nades
i couldnt hear or do anything
gj
and i had that effect for good 20 seconds at least
foxx please do so, so instead of killing me you give me a chance to shoot back at you
LUL
instead of the grenade exploding on the other side of wall doing nothing, ill just toss it your way and you wont be able to function for 30 secs :)
through walls
i still prefer a stack of vogs
how in the world do you level up strength fast
vogs are overrated
is a Key card with a blue marking worth keeping?
ive had them explode at my feet doing little damage
legit im endurance level 30 with strength 2
glitching, throwing ton of nades or running with fuel tanks while having air filter on
might want to get rid of glitching as if you do that you can get your stuff wiped
just take a couple cheap nades (zarya/smoke) and throw them at the beginning of each of your raids
well i need a filter first
which im to broke to get since i have been getting nuked every round : )
i have to go back to hatch running
which i hate
if you want to hit interchange/shoreline for ledxs then sure
if you have patience for that
but you can simply take a budget and play a normal game on customs
you should be getting at least 300k per run consistently
yeah so i only got keys for reserve lmao
and the keys for shoreline are apparently for red key cards
cause i found a keytool from some dude there lmao
i don't know, never done that, but it sounds silly to me to do hatchet runs on reserve
not really theres a lot of places to get guns
and cages will loot you up easy
but
map loads for 5 minutes for me, just to throw the dice for the god spawn, and then throw the dice again to see if ill be able to extract with it
with a ledx?
for instance
otherwise youve wasted 10 minutes for 150k profit
or whatever therapists pays for it
dude what is this
i need to keep my headphones at like 20degree angle to the left
for the right ear to work
lmao
ok so i should hit up shoreline for hatches?
on the other hand you can go to customs, avoid hot spots (especially dorms, theres nothing there expect for other players and reshalla) and fill your backpack with everything you can find
worst case scenario you'll get backpack full of crap which sell on flea for 10k/slot anyway so with a trizip it gives you 300k per
as a player or as a scav?
as a player the map is extremely predictible
i havent had that click yet for it
3 spawns on top closest to dorm always pushes there
2 spawns pushed medical
another two will most likely push usec
huh that does kinda sound normal
those from medical pushes fort and then most of the time old gas/power jump over and proceed towards usec
usec can either go in opposite direction on diverge towards new gas
gas station jeez i remeber the ww3 i hear from there lol
dorms will most likely go to new gas and usec
there's a natural flow on the map
and you can very easily predict where people are and where will they be going most of the time
especially at the beginning, first 10-15 minutes
and there is a ton of good loot on customs
stashes everywhere
medical, fort, usec and boilers office
big red office with computers, safe and intelligence spawn
what do you mean, medical
crackhouse
place have many names
crack house is funniest
how tf do ppl get over a 100 mil
I'm at 70 and it's the BTC farm. I'm not that good but I can log in twice a day
read what i just wrote and that's one way to get there
hm i see ty
also utilize your hideout for passive income, it really adds up
once you get high level not only you get a sustainable source of passive income but everything is dirty cheap thanks to vendors
it's really unfair and bad game design, but that's how it is, like in real life, rich people get richer and the gap between bad players and good players grows during the wipe because of skills system
tbh interchange is much better for loot if you want to avoid pvp
LFG NA need help learning the game.
i can second that personally
Might be a complicated question but here it goes. I'm lvl 46 but only lvl 12 skill strength (even lower a day ago when i wasnt training it) and I am trying to find the best method to build up strength. My current strategy is multiple docs cases filled with SAS drives (each full case is 13.5kg and I have 3 atm). I have about 40kg in my pouch and then I throw on a little extra to get me to around 60kg and Ive just been sprinting to extract as soon as I spawn in. Question is about stimulants, Ive seen videos of people taking L1's and sj6's and running for several minutes and when they are done theyve ranked up several skill levels like nearly 100 skill points or so. I do it and I don't even think it budged my skill level. Did they change that and can you no longer use stims to assist physical skill leveling in 12.8, and does anyone have suggestions on how to improve this strength skill method?
Anyone trying to help a newer player on any map really? got like 20 minutes before i go back to work and would like to be able to squeeze a match in
my patented interchange rat run continously proves itself to be extremely effective in collecting roubles
loot oli, loot stashes
oh you think i loot oli? oh no, im a real rat
don't go into the mall
can i send pics here?
where can i find good maps to find my way around
i mostly use maps from the reddit, i like them a lot better than the wiki or tarkov buddy, etc
can you send me some
did you want any maps in particular?
anything but labs
like a customs and factory maybe interchange
woods is bad because of thermals and shoreline is just ass
5 man vog spawn kills
There aren't that many thermals on woods
wut
i just gave you a basic rundown of each map
you can choose what you like based on what kind of gameplay you like
Oh I think you pinged the wrong person
i just saw people talking about maps and so i figured id describe them, my mistake
yo what do i do with the bitcoin sell them on flea or trade them in
Trade them to therapist, I think theyโre close to 250k last time I checked
You can't sell bitcoins on the flea market anymore
or you can save until you get 13 for the weapons' case, it's cheaper than flea market weapons' case
the rapist
or save for weapon's case, can recommend that
unless you're stone broke
any1 wanna help me i need to get shotguns i have killed enough scavs tho
where can I find sherpa hub?
!sherpahub
how does one get in this fridge and what can be inside it?
i have a indicator something is in side ?
oh I see that, not sure why. I've had that happen before but that's because there was loot on the other side of the wall
i can see it from both sides of fridge just couldnt find anything oh well i got domed messing around in one spot too long XD
Hello, if I have full inventory (standard edition), what should I do with it?
use it? sell it?
sell or get a case
I have only 4 lvl
we have the same name lmfaoo
sell unused items to traders
lmao
But i don't have knowledge about selling items,
sell gun parts to mechanic, backpack, armor etc to ragman
do you have access to the flea market?
No, im lvl 4
a full stash at level 4? you're doing something right
I just playing with Scav and too with PMC
sell guns and weapon attatchments to mechanic, keys food meds to therapist, etc
Okay, thanks for tips ๐
some items you might want to keep for quests so you don't have to find them again. when you get to level 10 you can sell things on the flea market if it's found in raid
Yep, okay
!sherpa
Hello @warped crescent,
In the Escape from Tarkov Official server, you can ask for Sherpas to come and give you assistance with Escape from Tarkov.
You can ask for in game help, help on modding you weapons, assistance to do quests... sherpas are here to help.
You can also request sherpas on the main Escape from Tarkov website.
Send a request to a sherpa :
https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/sherpa
Help on how to do your request :
https://forum.escapefromtarkov.com/topic/88265-how-to-ask-for-a-sherpa/
On this discord, you can also use :
โ #beginners-assistance : To chat with other beginners and meet sherpas.
โ Beginners assistance : To talk with sherpas and to be moved in private rooms, to raid with them !
You can also contact Sherpas and other helpful players by joining this server
https://discord.gg/RspH4jw
Thank you, and good luck in Escape from Tarkov.
@deft juniper thereโs a whole server dedicated to helping new players
@crude tangle Might be a glitch. If it happens again maybe report it. Unless someone found a way to hide their gear inside said prop.
Is the small SICC case still a item? i tried searching for it on the flea market and nothing showed up and it doesnt show under the container section
it is an item and it is still available in game
what do i have to search for? I tried case and small but nothing showed up
its barter only from jaeger lvl 3
huh kk thx
ok so i need help
its annoying because i always have my scope on someone shoot them and when i die it says i didnt hit any shots, which isnt possible since my scope was right on them and i shoulda gooten atleast 5 hits
not saying its a bug im saying if there is a mechanic in the game that idk about thats fuckin me over in every gun fight
Without more info it's only left to guessing... it can be bullet drop and you never reach your target. It could be desync although it's been rare in my experience.
It could be objects between you and target aren't rendering and blocking said bullet...
approx distance between you and your target?
like 30 feet
ill try to clip it and show u guys next time
but ur right im not giving u much to work with
as mreft said, without more information it's hard to troubleshoot, but i would suggest doing two things - go to your hideout to the shooting range and check on the furthest target where does the bullet actually hit compared to where do you have your reticle and/or go to and offline raid and shoot and comparable distance to a wall and check bullet mark to compare
since a) in tarkov guns rarely shoot where the reticle is pointing - depends on the combination of gun/optic; b) guns have a bullet drop and zeroing probably works completely different than you think, so for longer shots you have to figure it out by trial and error
ill record it next time
tarkov netcode works completely different than most other games
also... if you were moving/strafing some optics have sway which means the gun won't shoot anywhere near the reticle
iirc vertias has a pretty good video on this particular subject
fragmentation
i used 4 rounds and got 6 hits
ohhhhh that makes sense
do rounds that get absorbed by armour count as a hit?
and there was a bug like two months ago with certain type of ammo which resulted in every hit being registered twice
could be one of those
ofc
ok just making sure i wasnt tripping
so this gun fight worked fine i shot 4 and remember hitting 4
i'm not sure but you may get similar results with buckshot as one bullet contains up to eight projectiles
and with high pen ammo you can hit multiple target lined up with a single shot
it was a player scav looting someones body and sneaked up on them
i never get PMC kills theyre all player scavs
what ammo were you using?
idk it was a scav gun didnt check the ammo
and i already sold everything i got
but i usually use 5.45x39 BP ammo
!sherpa
Hello @blissful lagoon,
In the Escape from Tarkov Official server, you can ask for Sherpas to come and give you assistance with Escape from Tarkov.
You can ask for in game help, help on modding you weapons, assistance to do quests... sherpas are here to help.
You can also request sherpas on the main Escape from Tarkov website.
Send a request to a sherpa :
https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/sherpa
Help on how to do your request :
https://forum.escapefromtarkov.com/topic/88265-how-to-ask-for-a-sherpa/
On this discord, you can also use :
โ #beginners-assistance : To chat with other beginners and meet sherpas.
โ Beginners assistance : To talk with sherpas and to be moved in private rooms, to raid with them !
You can also contact Sherpas and other helpful players by joining this server
https://discord.gg/RspH4jw
Thank you, and good luck in Escape from Tarkov.
@broken birch
@bold kernel Enough to make 1 super water I find
@bold kernel wiki says 8 hours
Hmmm Guess I haven't unlocked that upgrade.
but why is it 6
@blissful lagoon but it's 6
wdym 6
It takes 65 durability to make one according to the wiki
8h
It probably rounds up
why do i have 6
What are your hideout management soft skills?
@bold kernel 51 management 51 crafting
@blissful lagoon i craft purified in ~3h
Probably because you have three filters in it uses them faster or something
only 1st filter is used
Yeah it uses them faster if u have more
It usually takes 5hr 25 min to craft one
where do u see that
It takes 2.5hr less if u'r saying it takes 3 hr to craft one with three in
It doesn't say anywhere, you'd have to try it to know that
It's using up the durability faster because you have more filters in.
i had 6 hours when i had 1 filter
and 6 when i had 3
8h+25%=6?
i should have 10 hours
If it produces 25% faster then it would be 6 hours
im new to the game and need someone to help me dm call me or dm me pleae
no
The text there is probably wrong
You said it takes 3 hours to make one
It usually takes over 5
It's just the effects of those stacking, or it's a bug
well i would be making more if they lasted 10 hours
65 durability = one filter
Evening Boys. Any tips for Bunker Part 2?
doesn't matter how long they take
and where did you get that
isn't the durability only an indicator of how much time it has left
If it's more efficient time-wise, then it uses up faster
i need a team and i am very new tot he game
If it's more efficient durability-wise, then it uses less to make a water
!sherpa
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@blissful lagoon yeah i counted it up without skills
normal filter lasts 500 minutes
divided by 100 = 5
times 65=325
which is also how many minutes it takes to craft superwater
without any skills
oh
500 minutes (normal waterfilter)
-25% (should be +25%)
=375 minutes=6.25h=6h ronuded
so the skill is taking away instead of giving me more time
normal = 500 minutes
correct value = 625 minutes
broken value = 375 minutes
does anyone else have it like this?
What skills are you looking at
do i run a timer
and see for how long the filters actually last
i'm pretty sure they do last only 6 hours though, feels like i have to change them out pretty often
487.5 (Minutes that a water filter lasts with no skills) * 1.25 (Hideout Management) = 609.375 * .625 (Crafting) = 380 rounded = 6hr
a water filter doesn't make a single superwater though
100% of filter = 487.5 minutes
why would they base the increase of the water filter durability on how much it takes to make a single superwater
instead of how much it actually lasts?
and why is it making it last shorter instead of longer?
wdym
8h 20 = 500
the hideout skill doesn't affect how fast the superwater crafts
and the crafting skill doesn't affect how long it lasts
But it can be translated to effective time
if u wanna treat durability and time the same that's how it would look
because that's how it works?
65 durability of a non-skilled water filter
is equal to 5 hours and 25 minutes
which is what the non-skilled purified water takes to craft
and you still got the 35 durability to use on the next one
Ye but the ratio between the two change depending on skills
since those skills change one but not the other
what ratio?
between time and durability
well then purified water crafting is not based on durability
but on the time the water filter has left in it
does durability even matter?
Yes
i am still pretty sure it's just an indicator of how much time it has left
isn't durability just a literal percentage of time left within the water filter
from 1 to 100
Sure you could see it like that but it's a percentage of a changing value
and how do you explain the fact
and what are you basing this on
So let's say u don't have anything that changes time
but u do have something that makes durability for efficient
The durability is generally 65% of the time
but if u make it more efficient
it doesn't though
and how do you explain the fact
that decreasing the default value of 500 minutes by 25%
gives me the exact same time (6.25h rounded up to 6h) that i have right now?
it's almost as if...
it decreased how long my water filter works
instead of increasing it
and it only does it inside the water filter
air filtering works fine
fuel works fine
487.5 (Minutes that a water filter lasts with no skills) * 1.25 (Hideout Management) = 609.375 * .625 (Crafting) = 380 rounded = 6hr
Is that clearer?
a water filter doesn't last 487.5 minutes
it says on the wiki it lasts 500
and the crafting skill doesn't affect how long it lasts
it only affects how long the purified water is crafted
how
round it down and u still get 6 hr
then it should round to 10h
becaue it should increase by 25%
but it decreases
by EXACTLY 25%
also
purified water crafts exactly in 3 hours and 23 minutes
as it should
so crafting is working
but not hideout management
Hideout management applied before crafting
yeah
as a fuel
i just don't get how crafting has any effect on how long the water filter lasts? i hit 51 crafting before hideout
and they lasted 8h
then it went down to 7 and now 6
Okay so let's think it through
if an item crafts faster but uses the same amount of durability
Then the time the durability lasts is shorter
it doesn't use the same durability
a single purified water takes like 51 dura
at least for me
that's after hideout management
uh yeah
but how does it make any sense
that crafting shortens the time i have to crat superwater exactly by 37.5%
right down to the minute
but it also somehow affects my water filters
500 (Minutes that a water filter lasts with no skills) * 1.25 (Hideout Management) = 625 * .625 (Crafting) = 390.625 rounded down = 6hr
and how come that instead of increasing the time my filters last by 25%
decreasing it gives me 6.25h
Does that make sense
which is exactly how long they last
what if
the devs just put a -
instead of a +
in the code
but crafting doesn't affect the minutes a water filter lasts
as i said
my crafting skill shortened the superwater production EXACTLY by 37.5%
but it doesn't use the same durability
It does, you are looking at it when you have hideout management and crafting
so a water filter always uses 65 no matter what?
If you don't have hideout management yes
maybe someone on the wiki put 65 there just because that's exactly how much it needed
cuz the page was made before the crafting skill
and hideout management
but how do you explain the fact
that my water filter is shortened exactly by 25%
which is what it should be increased by
yeah but what if you're wrong
Then so be it
because
the developers decreasing it by 25% by mistake
instead of increasing it by 25%
seems much more feasable
If you wanna report it as a bug then report it
I'm just saying it seems like it makes sense to me
wait
why are you multiplying the minutes a waterfilter lasts
by how much shortened the crafting is
those are two completly different things
that's just overthinking it
The entire question is overthinking it
not really
it really boils down to the fact
that a water filter 100hp lasts 500
+25% it should last 625
but if the developers WERE to make a mistake and make it -%
it would last 375
which rounded to hours is exactly 6h
also the fact that prior to leveling hideout management my crafting skill had no effect on the number displayed by the water filter
when, using your logic, it should
it really does seem like the dev just saw "reduced"
and has "reduction" in his mind
so he made it last 25% less than 25% more
Yes
for god knows why
yeah
the item crafts faster so it uses up durability faster
but there's also more durability
25% more of it
so the correct equasion would be
My math: #beginners-assistance message
Why it's using up faster:
#beginners-assistance message
500 (default water filter time) + 25% (hideout management) = 625 minutes = 10h 25 mins
325 (default water crafting time) -37.5% (crafting time reduction) = 203 minutes = 3h 23 mins (CORRECT)
They both change it
and how do you know that
The second message
i feel like you're just really overcomplifying things
ok so
it should use up 32.48 durability
if it worked correctly
Alright, what doesn't make sense in that math
the fact that the crafting skill affects the time the water filter works
even though it already affects how fast the purified water crafts
So if the durability usage doesn't change
Assume you don't have hideout management
ok
Then the durability shouldn't change
Right?
It should still use 65
To make one water
no?
Okay, why not?
it should take 3 hours 23 minutes (how long it takes to craft)
off of the 8 hours 20 minutes the water filter has within it
Let's just stick to our assumptions
Not numbers
Why would crafting change the durability usage
because it takes shorter to craft
therefore takes less durability?
uuuh This is all kinda lost on me... would this be good for DM's?
It might be useful for other people
@bold kernel My math: #beginners-assistance message
Why it's using up faster:
#beginners-assistance message
This is the TLDR
Does that make sense to u?
@bold kernel my filters last 25% shorter instead of lasting 25% longer
6 hours 25 minutes
rounded to 6 hours
pretty sure the devs just mistook a + for a - but i wanna make sure before i report
@blissful lagoon tell me one thing
what is the origin of the number 65
and can you apply your math
to vanilla values
65 is the vanilla value
yes
Unless they changed it then it takes 65 durability to make a water
uhh
the durability is 100
and it takes 65 durability off of the water filter by default
to make a purified water
yeah, should the hideout management skill make it so that it takes less durability to make a water
One filter has the ability to make 1.5 water before skills
since there's literally more time to the water filter?
what is 1/100 water filter equal to in time
Yes, it makes the durability last longer
So because hideout management makes it last 25% longer
u can multiply the time the filter lasts by 1.25 to get how much it lasts after hideout management
And since crafting makes it last shorter
You multiply by .625
crafting doesn't make it last shorter though
it only makes the time crafting a purified water last shorter
My math: #beginners-assistance message
Crafting skill:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/521626362251837451/783456354014330890/unknown.png
Why it's using up faster:
#beginners-assistance message
can you apply your math to the vanilla values then?
So assume it takes 65 durability to craft a water, that 65 durability would last .65x the time
Does that make sense?
it doesn't take 65 durability
it takes minutes
how about we take this durability thing out of the equasion
because you seem to go back to it alot
pee pee
when it literally just means how long the waterfilter needs to work for
the water doesn't use durability to craft
it uses the remaining time within a water filter
which is 8h 20min by default
how about i explain my math
Sure
you've got the water collector
I can try to point out any errors I see
which, by default, takes 5 hours and 25 minutes to craft a purified water
325 minutes, sure
If you didn't have hideout management sure
Yes
Ye
Yes
i applied it
to the CRAFTING
of the purified water
and i applied the usage reduction
to the USAGE
of the water filter
Which looks like?