beginners-assistance

[inner isle]

Nice

[fiery moat]

tbh, i have pretty mid rig, 3070 and ryzen 5 5600x and ddr4, i get 110-120ish fps on medium settings(sometimes down to 80) and like 55-65fps on streets(220 on labs and factory) its just a problem on his side probably

[smoky wing]

i have better pc than you bro

and i sometimes dip to lower than 100

and my pc is better by mile

[fiery moat]

so ur fps with 5090 is lower than mine with 3070? crazy

wish i knew a solution

[smoky wing]

my FPS can go as high as 300

and as low as 80

[weary sky]

i have a 7600x and a 4060 and i locked my fps to 75 lol. but i do get 75 consistently

[smoky wing]

Problem is the game

i drop to 90fps and my PC says

"20% GPU usage 17% cpu usage"

[subtle crag]

Even if you had 5090 'n a Ryzen 9 X3D your rig would only be few percent better than mine 'n only if using DLSS features

[smoky wing]

brother diffrence between 5070 and 5090 is like 60%

its not "few %" lmao

[inner isle]

5070 ti, 9950X3D and 64gbs ram, and my gpu is isually 70-80% used whilst cpu not as much, with around 160-180 at all times and on all maps so, yeah smth aint right

[weary sky]

both are high end cards tho so it really does not matter

[subtle crag]

They are not, since I also have a 5090 in my main rig back home

[fiery moat]

8gb gpu, 16gb ram, 5th gen ryzen 5, it seems like my pc is overperforming as hell getting 120fps on average maps seeing all 3 of yall rigs damn

[smoky wing]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oJQOyw_3CHw
5070 42 fps
5090 100 fps

i got 30 more videos to prove that it is in fact that much

u are crazy to think 5070 is just few % worse than 5090, when its like 40% worse than 5080

[fiery moat]

anyways guys stop the flex its a beginners assistance channel

[smoky wing]

i aint flexing, i trying to have a stable 144 FPS

[inner isle]

Do u Use dlss at all?

[subtle crag]

Again, most of the incremental upsides are with DLSS features 'n like the other guy already said it doesn't matter as the problem here seems to be an issue only in your end

[fiery moat]

he wouldnt need to with a 5090, he SHOULDNT need to

[smoky wing]

why would it matter if i use DLSS or not when tarkov doesnt use more than 50% of my GPU regardless

[fiery moat]

could there be a heating issue problem

[smoky wing]

DLSS helps removing some GPU load, in tarkov GPU load is non existent for me

[smoky wing]

its not Heating issue when both of my parts are pretty much idle

5090 stays at 63C
my ryzen x3d stays at 70C

even in super stress test i do many times a month at 100% usage each i never saw temps higher than 75-80C

[fiery moat]

tbh it increases fps even with same load. i also get like 65% gpu usage but its like 10fps difference on and off (110 and 120, it still is a difference)

[smoky wing]

Then tarkov is insane mess of the game

[fiery moat]

70c? is that normal for a desktop? mine has stock fan that i clean once in 6 months and no thermal paste(last applied 2.5 years ago) and i get 68 so roughly the same

[inner isle]

Thats, not news

[smoky wing]

Do you have x3d processor?

[fiery moat]

along with an entire mess of a map

[smoky wing]

x3d cpus run hotter overall, still it was 75C under 100% load

[fiery moat]

ok so its normal for x3d processors? i dont have one i dont know

[smoky wing]

thats a really good score for that cpu

[fiery moat]

ok then, was just wondering if your cpu was throttling itself for safety

[smoky wing]

yes they were created to run hotter, they can reach up to 90C and not throttle only throttling at 93-95C

[fiery moat]

that was an issue with my previous rig, cpu would throttle itself bc it was overheating and would never go above 50%

[smoky wing]

in tarkov my CPU doesnt go above 60C cuz it aint being used

[fiery moat]

not a rig but a gaming laptop, cpu would run at 133 degrees celcius

[subtle crag]

Remember older AMDs, compared to those our X3Ds are colder than Alaska

[smoky wing]

maybe, still 9850x3D runs hot

[fiery moat]

bc of that i never have to take care of my cpu in terms of thermal paste and fan cleaning rofl

68 degrees on 90% usage in tarkov, didnt touch the cpu since 1.0 release

[subtle crag]

I wouldn't say 70 degrees is hot by modern gaming standards. But still hotter than some of the Intel's, in which I lost faith years ago

[fiery moat]

this was my i5 13500h

it wasnt even one of the faulty cpus from 13-14th generation intel fumble

[smoky wing]

either way, tarkov should run without problems at 200 fps stable

considering this game looks like 2008 battlefield

[fiery moat]

it was never about the graphics

[smoky wing]

it was never about performance either apparently

[fiery moat]

this game has optimization issues bc of its mechanics

did u know that

[smoky wing]

how come both tarkov ripoffs

can run 300 fps stable while tarkov barely goes above 140 on the same rig

[subtle crag]

More so because of the engine rather than mechanics

[smoky wing]

while having "same" mechanics

[fiery moat]

in tarkov, every single bullet that is fired, actually physically goes and travels like an object and touches the enemy physically, instead of just going to enemy like a laser

the game calculates that for every bullet

when you open the scope, the game is rendering itself twice, so everytime u use a scope u also lose fps u can see it(not in all scopes)

use a scope like hamr and deltapoint, use hamr itself first and switch to delta, congrats ur rendering the game 3 times now

devs need to fix these first tbh

[subtle crag]

Again, the mechanics isn't the issue, multiple games have "sum of its parts" mechanics. It's more so to do with the engine that has issues

[smoky wing]

yeah tarkov is insanely unoptimised

but i guess thats what happens when 30-40% of your game are unity assets from store

[subtle crag]

Pretty sure that was only true during the first couple of years

[smoky wing]

the unheard knife is still a unity asset

unless they replaced that kuhkri

[subtle crag]

But yeah, the game itself is poorly optimized

[fiery moat]

if it works, it works logic. game is still fun and one of these games that bring your emotions to maximum(maximum anger when losing and maximum satisfaction when winning=addictive game, just like league and counter strike,how they became popular and continuous)

[smoky wing]

it doesnt work

when it has less FPS than battlefield 6

by like twice

[subtle crag]

Unity is a good engine for simpler games 'n smaller studios. I feel like Tarkov has grown beyond the scope of its engine but also has been going for so many years that an engine change is off the table

[fiery moat]

theres no motivation for them to fix it when there are at least a million dudes with 5000+ hours, its like a full warranty for the game,ensuring it will stay active even if its left as is

[smoky wing]

battlefield 6 on max settings and DLAA

gives me 220 fps, inside heat of battle

tarkov gives me 140 fps if i look at empty forest lmao

[fiery moat]

again,

not the case for everyone

[smoky wing]

i saw landmark stream dropping to 110 fps and he has the best PC money can buy

[tidal lagoon]

who would have thought 2 things based on the same irl knife looks similar

[subtle crag]

BF6 is a bad comparison though, like sure they showed the industry that you can have a well optimized game that doesn't require 100 gigs of files, but also suffers from 1 key issue as every other title in that franchise, hitreg, hitreg is my only complaint in BF6

[smoky wing]

isnt tarkov youtube full of clips where u shoot someone in the head 10 times and it doesnt count or someone running behind the wall and still getting hit cuz on enemy PC he still sees him?

please

[fiery moat]

never seen such a clip even tho i watched like thousands of different clips whenever it came across me on any platform

[subtle crag]

That's just Tarkov's desync issue (The hitreg I pointed out was entirely unrelated to topic)

[fiery moat]

theres hitreg that could happen sometimes but its nowhere near THAT MUCH

[smoky wing]

also saying that

"tarkov simulates every bullet traveling"

and thats why its laggy is hella cope

considering battlefield 3 has been doing it since 2011

and it simulates 400 bullets being fired at once, not 20

[subtle crag]

Again, comparing an inhouse engine to Unity isn't fair

[smoky wing]

Okay how about arc raiders then?

[fiery moat]

"hella cope" im not a developer, complaining to me aint gonna fix it, im not an investor for bsg too,why would i defend im just a dude whos playing the game normally, never had a single issue with this game other than 1 single time being kicked by server lag issue (1 time in 844 raids)

[smoky wing]

looks 5x better than tarkov, and has all the looting mechanic

while giving me 200 stable fps on DLAA

and its using notoriously bad optimisation wise engine

[subtle crag]

UE5 in right hands is extremely solid 'n flexible engine

[smoky wing]

so is unity 🙂

[subtle crag]

Unity in this scale ain't solid

[fiery moat]

all that time complaining to some random dudes in beginners assistance channel, in the meantime you could click the play button on any game u were comparing. you dont have an oath to a game dude, if u dont like, u can just not play the game, better for you

these texts u typin are just reaching to 2-3 dudes playing the game, not nikita

[smoky wing]

idc about nikita personally, iam just tryint to see if there is any fix in game running as bad as it does while looking worse than battlefield 3

thats all to it, if not, unlucky

if a 6k usd PC cant give me stable 1% lows cuz game just shrrugs and doesnt use my system. Then its a bad game as far as iam concerned

[fiery moat]

if this game was comparable to battlefield 6 in terms of optimization, you'd see 5 million active players on steam rn

[subtle crag]

Like we have told you here already, it seems to be an issue on your end, without physically seeing the issue its kinda hard to help

[inner isle]

Thing is, you seem to be the only one here thats struggling This badly with such a high end setup, whereas the rest of us are doing pretty damn well, it doesnr sound like much of a game issue at all

[tidal lagoon]

think all ur issues are just personal atp

[smoky wing]

maybe its more of what do u consider "not struggling"

[inner isle]

Above 100 fps and still smooth?

[smoky wing]

someone here said "i play on locked 75 fps iam fine " for me 75 fps is unplayable levels of fps

[inner isle]

Im 160-180 fps not Ever hitting lower and my setup is technically worse then urs

[smoky wing]

on QHD?

Stable?

[inner isle]

Yeah

Widescreen 1440p

[smoky wing]

Post the clip if u have it, i wanna see it

[fiery moat]

listen,again, if the game was broken, i dont think i'd get more fps than you, without an fps drop, on literally a 500 dollar pc

[smoky wing]

thats cuz you are not getting more FPS than me, and i can bet you 50 bucks

[inner isle]

Im abroad rn on holiday so cant exactly send a pic

[subtle crag]

And for me, I have fps tied to my screen's hz, only reason they sometimes dip is due to naval action running on second screen

[smoky wing]

sometimes for me tarkov suddenly is like "okay time to use actual GPU " and jumps usage to 80% and then i suddenly get 350 fps

only for it to drop back to 100-120 30s later

[fiery moat]

i said 120 on any normal map, 220(lowest 180,max 260) on factory/labs, 55-65 on streets(bc that map just sucks) way before,above along the lines

[smoky wing]

i will gladly see a clip of that

[subtle crag]

All this just sounds like a system issue, not an issue in-game wise

[smoky wing]

every other game is performing as expected

[fiery moat]

again,seems to be an issue of your end,if the game was buggy it wouldnt suddenly just give you good usage and numbers just to drop back down

[inner isle]

And yet for Anyone else the game is Fine

[fiery moat]

"clip of this" "clip of that" literally every single pc with same spec runs like this, these are the normal numbers of fps for both me and divinity

[smoky wing]

funny cuz i asked the same question in PVE chat and everyone told me the oposite. That the game is a mess

[inner isle]

It is one yes, but it still works pretty damn well

[smoky wing]

but u suddenly have giga fps u dont wanna prove of having. Thats fine

[fiery moat]

if u play pve and use local host yeah ur getting 30fps, the entire game just loads the entire server on ur pc

[smoky wing]

i dont play local host

[fiery moat]

the dude who said 75 is unplayable is saying 120 is giga fps

[smoky wing]

both are awful FPS for a game like this tbh

[inner isle]

Im abroad on Holiday, it aint my fault i wanna relax

[smoky wing]

i aint talking mainly about you

[fiery moat]

if ur saying 120 is awful about any game on earth, you need to go see the real world and interact with people more dude, not an insult, for your health. you are losing your mind

[smoky wing]

120 fps for a game that looks so jarring GPU wise is absolutely awful my guy

[fiery moat]

seems like you reached maximum too often you deem good as the bare minimum

[smoky wing]

Duh? Like thats how life is no?

once u get used to premium standard

anything below that is not good enough

[fiery moat]

masturbated too much and cannot feel good when fcking, but on digital environment.

[smoky wing]

cry more brokie

with ur imaginary 120 fps

[fiery moat]

bros gettin edgy

go play yo other games gng

[smoky wing]

thats what i plan on doing lmao

[fiery moat]

"imaginary 120fps" when every single rig with same specs as me is getting the same rofl

[smoky wing]

show video on youtube 🙂

[fiery moat]

here for like 30 mins or so dude, cmon, could've done many raids in arc

[smoky wing]

i dont play arc anymore cuz i done it all in that game

now the FPS is normal

but still will randomly drop the usage

[subtle crag]

• Has an issue with the game no one else seems to have

• Can't comprehend the advice 'n replies he has received

• Starts insulting the game (which is fair under normal circumstances to an extent)

• Starts insulting the people he asked help from

• Is being edgy

[smoky wing]

i only insulted someone back

i aint gonna take shit from some random most loyal BSG soldier

[silver karma]

Guys why don't I get notifications for messages in game? I was wondering why insurance wasn't working and when I went looking I found 4 insurance returns that I wasn't notified of

[fiery moat]

most loyal bsg soldier=someone who never had an issue with the game and didnt care about his random slander

also ur more loyal, u complained allat and still playin tarkov

[smoky wing]

i bought this game ages ago

back in 2018

[fiery moat]

and still milking it, i bet you have more hours than me since 1.0 even tho this is the only game i play and i only bought it on steam

[smoky wing]

in last 8 years i surely hope so i have more hours than you lol

[tidal lagoon]

just bug, happens to me too rarely, get most of them but sometimes nothing

[fiery moat]

since 1.0

[smoky wing]

oh then no, i maybe played 5-6h total

[subtle crag]

"Most loyal BSG soldier"

For me, I took a break from this game in 2018 cos due to working in the army, came back 2022 for few hours, uninstalled due to the entire cheating issue 'n recently came back again. Very loyal yes.

[smoky wing]

again iam not talking about you

but that mr mayhem fella

[fiery moat]

i doubt the most loyal bsg soldier would've started playing only after 1.0 and have like 3h a day max

[subtle crag]

Even he doesn't sound like BSG glazer,

[fiery moat]

the fact that he called me brokie after i told him 120 is good enough for any game is crazy enough by itself

[smoky wing]

if u have 240HZ monitor it really isnt

[fiery moat]

60? thats acceptable to be stressed about. 90? not so much. 120? thats just very smooth, literally the max ANY game console could ever offer

[silver karma]

stop flirting and kiss already guys the tension is palpable

[smoky wing]

u just speak so much nonsense its crazy

[fiery moat]

i have 280 and i get above 300 on games like rainbow six siege

[smoky wing]

"tarkov simulates every bullet"

xDD

[fiery moat]

yet i go back to games like dead by daylight where 120 is max and i still feel it smooth

[fiery moat]

and?

bros just be hatin on anything

[smoky wing]

u have no idea what u are talking about

and yet you say it proudly like u are a dev

[fiery moat]

if i was a dev i would not be complaining about the game, no? on the message u quoted me i literally complained about the game

[smoky wing]

i more of meant a dev in general

[subtle crag]

That's just you who took his words like that

[smoky wing]

tarkov "simulating" every bullet has nothing to do with performance. And it has been an industry standard in pretty much every game that isnt competetive 5vs5 shooter

i can probably name 5x more games that use bullet simulation rather than hitscan. Or a mix of both

Cod
battlefield
squad
hell let loose
marathon
arc

every shooter there is pretty much doesnt use hitscans much or at all anymore

with "hitscan games" being pretty much only stuff like CS or Valorant

and maybe siege

and The finals for most guns

[fiery moat]

siege is a whole different work, the bullet comes out of the sight reticle instead of barrel

[smoky wing]

thats the case for many games believe it or not

[fiery moat]

btw i just went in a game just to screenshot this, ofc i wasnt gonna go in a raid in woods or shoreline and waste my time to extract

[smoky wing]

on factory i get 500, pretty much the only really good map

when it comes to FPS

[subtle crag]

HLL, runs like hot ass most of the time 'n has very different bullet simulation not even remotely comparable.

Squad, runs a bit better but still ain't well optimized.

CoD has extremely rudimentary bullet 'n damage calculatiion

[smoky wing]

So does tarkov, tarkov uses built it unity bullet simulation thingy

it aint some "state of the art" technology

[fiery moat]

the fps numbers i said in all maps that you called bs, i sent this just for that, and im not gonna go in another raid in a bigger map and waste like an hour and travel around the map just for a screenshot

[subtle crag]

It's still way more sophisticated than HLL

[smoky wing]

u are in offline mode wdym u extract

can just press exit

and if PVP is working better then maybe the PVE in general is borked

cuz that where most of my FPS issues were

[fiery moat]

that is indeed correct

[smoky wing]

if thats the case, that is kinda a meme on its own

cuz it shouldnt be the case

if the BSG server is hosting the enemies

[fiery moat]

i think its the case for most games except like some very high budget ones, i experienced like at least 10fps difference on most games between pvp or playing with bots, even in CSGO it would be 230fps on normal and 160 against bots(in my old laptop)

ofc its not normal, but yea thats the explanation

[tidal lagoon]

ai fucks ur fps, super noticable difference on streets, u can tell if kaban spawned or not based on ur fps decreasing

[fiery moat]

and thats a place where i can agree on you that the game sucks

[smoky wing]

so is BSG such bums that they shift the AI simulation on your PC rather than the server?

[tidal lagoon]

idk i dont work there

[smoky wing]

if so its a big "lol"

[fiery moat]

dont know if it is the case, but PVE has a big problem about that regardless

[smoky wing]

for how stupid AI is in this game iam suprised honestly

they just stand in the open and roll the dice if they hit you or not

[fiery moat]

i "tried" pve for 2 matches in interchange in my friends account, especially the one match in local host was like half of my fps compared to pvp(and the game was like less than 50% usage on my cpu and gpu)

[bleak tiger]

Not true

[smoky wing]

so far that is my expirience with scavs

raiders were the same back in a day, maybe they upgraded them

[fiery moat]

the game needs an AI overhaul about scavs, i like how raiders and rogues move and shoot but not scavs, i think they nerfed scav ai way too hard that they sometimes arent even considered a threat

even tagilla ai which moves stupid sometimes, is actually very good and i wish scavs were as smart. tagilla fkin shoulder peeked me and then came from another corner and full auto sprayed me, imagine a scav doing it

[tidal lagoon]

scavs lean peek

[subtle crag]

The AI used to be smarter many moons ago, I was honestly baffled the scavs have gotten worse

[smoky wing]

i honestly feel like they heavily nerfed the shotgun scavs and head eyes meta

[fiery moat]

very clunkily and often not

[smoky wing]

considering i meet those "pillagers" all the time

[tidal lagoon]

yes

[smoky wing]

and they give u UHWPE level 3 mask

which makes u immune to every scav shotgun and most ammo

back in a day shotgun scavs were monsters , hitting u head eyes from shotgun from miles away

[fiery moat]

the only dangerous move scavs make is that they sometimes just run and crouch infront of you and if you dont shoot them instantly they just head eye you. i actually died to a scav like that, was using bolty for SBIH, a scav did that and crouched last second and i missed my shot(to his arm) and he instantly head-eyed me

[smoky wing]

i would wear kolpak sometimes just to avoid it

but the AI spawn system is hella weird

i went to the stronghold in PVE mode

[torn rapids]

scav AI has been neutered over and over again

[smoky wing]

i go inside one room and there is 6 scavs in there all turning around and firing at me

[torn rapids]

Yeah cause AI in PVE don't move and don't get aggroed

[smoky wing]

insane design

[torn rapids]

It's dumb

[fiery moat]

they need to buff scav ai. not necessarily for aim, ok let them miss or hit thorax/arms like they do now, but make them smarter cmon. they enter the same room that their friends died in and they wander around

[tidal lagoon]

lets be real they just released pve for money

[fiery moat]

they loot their own friends that i killed 10 seconds ago

[torn rapids]

BSG servers can't handle better Scav AI

[smoky wing]

i got it for free so they didnt get any more money from me

[subtle crag]

double-barrel love has destroyed many keyboards once upon a time

[torn rapids]

I got muted for saying this

PvE is a scam and has always been

[smoky wing]

shit was my favourite gun.
Sling 20 magnum bucks and a DB

[tidal lagoon]

crazy

[smoky wing]

insure DB, for like 700 roubles, nobody picks it up cuz its worthless. after few days u get infinite DB insurance

[tidal lagoon]

maybe i should add its my humble opinion

[subtle crag]

Man, I used to be so happy whenever my scavrun spawned me in with that

[fiery moat]

why tho, arent there like 20+ rogues in water treatment plant every match, make scavs a similar level of threat

[smoky wing]

but now i feel like those masks at least in PVE are waay too common

[subtle crag]

"For legal reasons this is merely my humble opinion"

[smoky wing]

to the point i dont really care about scavs anymore

they shoot me in the face i still block it using my magic mask

Scav using anything that can pen level 3 is rare

[subtle crag]

I mean they can, I don't know if Sparky was being sarcastic but Scavs were indeed quite a bit scarier years ago

[smoky wing]

Absolutely

[fiery moat]

oh and i was talking about the 2 times i played pve. i loaded in interchange, spawned close to the back area that goshan is in, immediately faced 5 pmcs that ran at me. killed 2, got injured cuz other 3 were spraying me at the same time, literally healed and even cms'd myself and killed them one by one, they didnt cooperate,didnt push me, they just hid in corners like dums

[smoky wing]

If u heard a shotgun scav and u didnt have face shield

U would get insanely stressed out lmao

[subtle crag]

Not to mention that 80% of the scavs had a shottie

[smoky wing]

Yup lmao

[fiery moat]

i still sometimes do, sometimes they hit me with slug from like 40+ meters and they hit me twice. boom every single of my body parts are red and 2 heavy bleedings, now i gotta use a zagustin before i die from bleed and spend a year trying to heal myself back

[subtle crag]

Dorms were the most stressful place in my humble opinion

[torn rapids]

They were scarier and got nerfed to shit

[subtle crag]

Exactly what I said

[torn rapids]

But you will never get "intelligent AI" because the servers can't handle the processing power

[smoky wing]

https://youtu.be/ICttkixNyzA?is=BBzd4f73y8OR_kcc

Thats the OG scavs

[fiery moat]

was running around in reserve on a raid that everyone left(or maybe 1-2 players left that i didnt know about) and some scav from the helicopter just hit my arm and leg with a slug 40+ meters away at least. EVERY body part i had was red and my leg and arm was black, it was an AI scav cuz no player scav would stand still around the helicopter in reserve and move like a bot

[torn rapids]

They used to covering fire you if you were hiding but it resulted in a lot of lucky headshots that people cried over

[subtle crag]

They actually can handle it

[smoky wing]

I never understood why tarkov didnt add option to “heal all”

[torn rapids]

What?

[smoky wing]

Healing from heavy bleed is always a chore unless u pop stim

[torn rapids]

Heal all is the default

[torn rapids]

Lol.

[smoky wing]

So like medkit heals up to 50 but only heals one limb at a time no?

[fiery moat]

i think theres a full treatment option, my friend said, but i cannot get that wheel to even choose which body part i gotta heal, i literally open the menu and drag the medkit to my bodypart

[torn rapids]

Use a stim?

[smoky wing]

i wish there was option to heal chip damage faster between fights that doesnt force u to use a stim
just use stim

[fiery moat]

yes, at least an AHF-1M is necessary when u got 2 or more bleeds

[smoky wing]

Ok thank you for u input

[subtle crag]

BGS just either doesn't want to or don't know how to code an optimized server hardcoded AI

[fiery moat]

about that, do yall know how to do it, like in keybind menu etc. cuz i see clips of ppl just holding the hotkey slot(like 4 5 6) where their medkit is and they get a scroll-down menu and select which body part they wanna heal, but i dont have that

[smoky wing]

Might be mix of both

Call me unc but tarkov used to be better

Without all the arena crap

[fiery moat]

800 raids, most of the story done, all traders maxed except fence, will escape after unlocking lightkeeper and i still dont know how to do that, i just drag the medkit into my body part in tab menu everytime

[fiery moat]

hey why is arena crap? i know theres a few different reasons to call it but i wonder which one u think

[smoky wing]

And without 80% of items being locked out of safe pocket

[smoky wing]

That u can play it ans then get really good items in eft

Like iam pretty sure earbuds were arena exclusive for a while.

[muted python]

im so fucking confused I ran into pillagers and one came up to me and didnt even shoot me. Then I kept walking and ran into another who then started shooting me

[torn rapids]

the arena scam xd

[fiery moat]

yeah thats a big plus, not broken but a plus along with xp benefit. i get my thicc cases from arena(shouldnt be someones problem since it doesnt affect their raids or progress) but earbuds, model 1, m855a1 and m61 being purchasable from ref is concerning even tho i play arena alot and benefit from gp coins and lega medals

[subtle crag]

I personally feel like it shouldn't have been a standalone experience.

Mostly all the additions have been ok(ish), the best part is that hackers aren't common nowadays it seems

[fiery moat]

model 1 should spawn like a normal weapon,as far as i know it doesnt spawn

its too overpowered to be locked behind arena

[smoky wing]

I would agree if not for the fact arena is a paid mode

[weary sky]

model 1 is bad anyways lol

[fiery moat]

how

[weary sky]

its litterally just an M4

[smoky wing]

If arena was free i wouldnt care. But u paying for it and then being able to get some really good EFT items in return seems busted

[subtle crag]

I would have been ok with it being a 15€ DLC mode

[fiery moat]

like 60 recoil and 90 ergo with bone stock

[smoky wing]

But tbh EFT was “pay to win” since its inception

[weary sky]

im ready if you are btw

[smoky wing]

Where EOD player had like 30-40h jumpstart on every wipe compared to standard player

[fiery moat]

i mean, EOD and unheard giving you trader rep boost, insane stash size that others need hundreds of hours to grind for, the gamma and all those cases u get at the start, basically same thing

0.2 on all traders and lvl5 stash, like damn

[smoky wing]

Yup

[fiery moat]

mine is lvl3 and i need 200k euros to make it lvl4 rn

[smoky wing]

And keep in mind tarkov used to wipe like every few months

So u would get this advantage every few months

[fiery moat]

yes, where normal people would start over, one of the good things about 1.0

[smoky wing]

While standard player had to force that gap every few months

[fiery moat]

alpha is unbearable

as a container

[smoky wing]

And it will still be the case once they add seasonal characters

Which i assume everyone “serious” about eft will move to

[subtle crag]

Aight

[fiery moat]

i dont know how it will even work. i know that its a separate character that will wipe, but like, will it be smth like a third pmc option u choose between pmc/scav option in menu, or will it be like that pve section on bottom right that switches the game mode

[tidal lagoon]

it will have its own stash etc so def like the pve option

[weary sky]

vc?

[subtle crag]

Ye I'm at #5 duo

[fiery moat]

on one hand it will suck that permanent characters will wait long for queues, on the other hand, its good that we can finally experience that hardness of early game weapons where its a dude with no armor and a mosin against a dude with kedr and paca, that experience. now currently even a steam player like me is fully maxed out, infinite source of tier 5 and very high source of tier 6, its meta vs meta so it gets boring after a while

though i think its better, cuz hey, who wants wipes will play on wiped, who doesnt want wipes and wants permanent progress will stay on their current character

if i could spare my time and happiness to grind for kappa i'd definitely prestige and start over

[tidal lagoon]

should lowk just remove pve now and have the perma character as its replacement

[fiery moat]

i mean, removing pve would be nothing but harmful to bsg, just let it stay it aint doing nothing to pvp players, pve players would leave the game instead of switching to pvp

just like how it shows "switch to pve" on bottom right, they could make the same one on the bottom left side for seasonal character

and i wish progression on permanent characters took longer, needs to be more grindy than seasonal to make sense

[limpid knoll]

I tried everything and I'm still crashing

I dunno what to do anymore

Might have to stop playing until BSG fixes this

Never used to be an issue until recently

Streets is straight up unplayable and during random raids I have a 40% chance of crashing out of nowhere

All other games are fine on my pc

[true osprey]

What's your paging file

[inner isle]

Yeah please, no, i only Play tarkov bc of its PvE side, i just hate dealing with other players in Any PvP game plus i like their randomness and quirky behaviour

[vagrant lava]

i would like a good 7.62 build not mdr or mutant if you have one and a good 5.45 build too

[keen folio]

LVL 3 LFG

[crimson hinge]

i have a question about purchasing , if i buy arena from epic games can i link it to my current Steam edition account ?

[bleak tiger]

Check #weapon-modding

[violet karma]

anyone got tips for setup bro this is deadass giving me cancer ive already spent a million roubles and only got 3 kills

[coarse tangle]

camp extracts

[unborn spindle]

make sure ur using good ammo

r u eu or na

[violet karma]

asia

[hidden seal]

asian ammo

[hidden seal]

well if they change the game so that when you go into raid the missing pleayer to complete the lobby are filled with AI PMC.. I think it could work

other thing they could do is give PVE players some reason to play PVP. HUge rewards into PVE if they complete said quests in PVP

[hidden seal]

setup is a pain in the ass.. Imho I postponeed as much as I could

early on wipe is easier since less high end armor

[frozen gyro]

Where can i easily do the early jeager quests? (Bolt action scav kill 40+meters and shoot stuff in the legs etc)

Bit stuck with quests in general atm so gotta figure out how to get some easy completes xd

[hidden seal]

Idid all in woods since scavs spawn on areas of large LOS there

[runic rapids]

mp-18 and mp-153

[hidden seal]

both on near outskirts adn in the village north of old saw mill

[runic rapids]

chase noise

[frozen gyro]

Ive been trying that. But I usually get deleted by john tarkov on there before i even see a scav

[runic rapids]

really? at scav village ? people camp on the top of the hill there often, but it's very doable besides that case

[frozen gyro]

Most quests im stuck at are either cus john tarkov or cus the pillagers guarding quest areas

[hidden seal]

well you cannot go for it in minute zxero as other pMCs ont aht area will ehar you and go for you.. give it some 2 minutes maybe 3 before yous tart thinking on scavs

[frozen gyro]

When I spawn there i usually get rushed. When i dont spawn there im dead before i get there xd

[runic rapids]

they have fixed spawns, at least. 100% and you know where they are

[hidden seal]

well he can be the one at the hill 😛

[runic rapids]

well, a general tip for woods; don't sprint unless they already know you're there. noise is often what gets you killed before you ever notice anything

[hidden seal]

scavs that spawn in the village (AI ones) always move south to the sawmill so you get clear long LOS shots

[frozen gyro]

I know but they 100% spawn on some quest objectives xd like the jeep for tiger safari on customs xd

[runic rapids]

you have to use cover very well when fighting strong ai like pillagers, this is the same for fighting goons or bosses or raiders/rogues

bound from place to place, don't be in the open or peek for more than a second or two

you have to re emerge from a different angle so they dont headshot you

[frozen gyro]

Ye I mean the isseu isnt as much me being spotted. As it is me having bad ammo and aim and doing no damage while they line up a headeyes xd

[frozen gyro]

Ye I have given up on fighting them at all. They delete me and take too many bullets to be worth it. So those quests are gonna have to wait till after the event

[runic rapids]

their face masks are level 3, you can hit them in the throat, back of the head, nape, pretty much anywhere it doesnt cover. besides that, if you have no strong ammo, then take advantage of hollow points' strong flesh damage and shred their legs

there are a lot of very cheap kits out there that will eradicate a person fully chadded out in milliseconds if you hit the flesh

[frozen gyro]

I dont have the aim to reliably do that before they black my arms

[runic rapids]

do your best to avoid them, then. they dont always walk towards the jeep for tigr safari, sometimes they go on the bridge or down the hill towards the river

[frozen gyro]

from the bridge and transit they are close enough to still agro on me im pretty sure

over 1000 hours and i still cant win pvp fights or do basic beginner quests XD

[runic rapids]

ah well we all die in bullshit ways sometimes, just do your best to identify mistakes youve made and try not to repeat them

[hidden seal]

their danger is that they have the super long LOS engagement of goons and AI PMC. So you need to be alert well before you get to their area

also they are in groups that spawn together. You can make them split with any grenade. even a flashbang one

they tend to spread and then you can engage 1 by one exposing yourself to only 1 at a time

if you do try to fight 4 at a time without cover.. yes.. even with their not amazing weaposn they will chew your arms and legs

[hidden seal]

you mean custom's

[keen forge]

yall what can i sell zryachiy's balaclave for ?

the normal one not the vengeful one

[frozen gyro]

yea i dont know those anymore xd havent seen much progress in all those hours

[hidden seal]

wel when you die you need to immediately stop and think. What could I have done different?

if you think well you will notice 80% of deaths coudl be avoided or postponed

[frozen gyro]

most of times its either me missing a shot. a camper. or chaddington the third steamrolling me

where the only fix i can think of is just not going back in as pmc XD

main reason i never go to dorms. and usually dont bother with quests there. i just know there is no surviving that place XD

[hidden seal]

the first 2 you can learn from

where coudl you have checked before approaching? not all camps can be avoided but some can

the shooting is self obvious.. did you shot too high? too low? you shot without aiming or you took too long aiming?

[frozen gyro]

its like any place at any time. and i dont have the memory to check every possible window and bush across every exfil or trafficed area

[main epoch]

anyone know how to fix this? i marked both and extracted but it says this. when i go back into raid with another marker i can't mark the vehicle

[hidden seal]

My aim improved a lot after I internalized "hey dummie, you are shooting at their externum.. aim higher your idiot"

[hidden seal]

well you can also play some time in lower population servers.. helps recover some self confidence

[frozen gyro]

i either mis the first shot and get one tapped instantly in return. or get a deathscreen whee i hit em like 20 to 40 times but perfectly in their level 6 armor

[hidden seal]

also something you can do on campers on extract is.. donot be greedy. Go watch an extract (on maps that you have long LOS) and see another PMC extract.. if he dies you know where the camper is

[hidden seal]

that falls into the "learn to aim higher"

[frozen gyro]

i feel if i want to win from the average tarkov player id need the element of suprise on a afk hatchet runner XD

[hidden seal]

well then work to get the element of surprise < it is the logical way to win firefights

[frozen gyro]

yea but the afk and armor less is needed to i can actually hit em and not magdump their armor XD

[frozen gyro]

i have often magdumped someone in the face only for their faceshield or hitreg to deny all of it

[hidden seal]

I also have lousy reflexes (almost 50 yo here) and play with 140 ms ping, so I cannot dispute speed and aim with other PMCs

so I also need to play more on the gather info and try to jump on the other guy

[hidden seal]

tht is usually rare

I usually only see level 6 shields in factory

I am still on weak side on fighting PMCs but I try to learn what I did wrong each time I die. Usually my problem is lack of patience

[frozen gyro]

the everage deathscreen ive had so far is lvl 5 or 6 armor. death mask. and if possible face shield on top with some sorta ar shootint m993 or 855a1

or the factory boss mask

[hidden seal]

well I do think level 6 armor is a tad too easy to come by. But if everythgin faisl you can go high damage ammo, not pen and learn to aim on legs

I am bad at that, but peopel that are good simply ignore armor

[frozen gyro]

I wish I could xd

so far every wipe i tend to turn into a scav only account and just completely give up on running pmc xd usually whenever the quests in resort or anywhere on lighthouse start

[hidden seal]

on fear of dieing or just frustration of the deaths?

what helped me with the fear was buying several cheap armor and shot gun kits and running GZ 50 times with the mindset of find something to kill or learn about your death

[frozen gyro]

frustration and general feeling of "why even bother if im not surviving any raids/completing any quests anyway"

[hidden seal]

then try for a bit a lower population server

[frozen gyro]

even with budget kits. once you start losing a few mil of kits with barely to no progress. i usually start being done. (and not like "oh wow that was a close one." but completely thanos snapped)

[frozen gyro]

insert the.. farcry? madness qoute of trying again expecting something to change XD. im not trying if the outcome is already set in stone either way

[hidden seal]

well , keep this im mind. PVP almost always ends up with one dead. If you are an average PMC player you will die half the times. But the population is skewed and the good ones are very good. So a median type player probably dies 70% of their engagements

[hidden seal]

the outcome is not set. And try again is the way. But you shoudl go for the try with a lesson learned

try other maps that you work better etc

[main epoch]

pls help

[frozen gyro]

make that 90 for me xD

[hidden seal]

I am horrible in factory, so I avoid it

[frozen gyro]

i know ive tried. but after 1000+ hours of nothing working idk what to even try anymore

[frozen gyro]

i refuse to do any quests on factory without atleast a group of people to carry me

(so idk when, if at all ima attempt delivery from the past)

[hidden seal]

again, smaller population servers

you will start to survive more and more and get some confidence

if you are playing agaisnt 6 instead of 10 on a map you have a better chance

[hidden seal]

try it on a lower population server.. half the time you might find the areas uncontested

[frozen gyro]

unless 1 of those is the "ima wipe the entire map and deadsprint at any noise" type people. or you need to get anywhere near factory/ resort/ dorms/ bunker

all it takes is meeting a single pmc and im gone Xd

[hidden seal]

yes then learn to AVOID pmcs

learn how logn takes for the addicted peopel to do their stuff an extract

[frozen gyro]

(random sidenote. i gues my dailys didnt feel like resetting)

[frozen gyro]

well they dont. ive had cases where even in the last 5 mins they are sstill t possing in dorms

[hidden seal]

incidental.. you cannot take what happens in some cases as rules

[frozen gyro]

and half the spawns on maps you will get rushed or meet someone in less then 2 mins anyway

[hidden seal]

You need to learn what amximize the chances

And understand that chances are chances.. sometimes they will fail but if you keep maximizing, soon or later will work

[frozen gyro]

when it happens like 7/10 times to me. im safe to assume it will be the case regardless

[frozen gyro]

yea but then you end up like me. only finally succeeding with that forsaken winebottle at level 19

[hidden seal]

then RUN. do not stay at spawn area .. peopel will go check those. Be anywhere but at the points the other PMC know to check

[frozen gyro]

cus of pure luck

[hidden seal]

everyone play based on statistics. THis si not chess. Only some 1% of players can crute force out of hard scenarios with skill

[frozen gyro]

lighthouse ur lucky if you make it 10 meters from some spawns. and someother maps you are borderline surrounded

[hidden seal]

most people go forward learning to be selective on their chances

again, try lower population maps

servers

[frozen gyro]

i just wish i had more skill and game sense then a 5 year old and i could enjoy the game without betting on the lucky 1/30 raid that might or might not happen

[hidden seal]

you might also be playing in one of the most sweaty servers.. what server you play in?

[frozen gyro]

idk from top of my head but eu somewher

[hidden seal]

try selecting others on EU. Some servers naturally gravitate to be the most sweaty people homes

[frozen gyro]

maybe thats it. would maybe also somewhat explain why some friends always talk about how easy the game is for them

[hidden seal]

it changes the experience quite a bit. I am in south america. Brazil server is way harder than mexico player for example for me

and Europe central servers (I can only play there on days where my internet is at top state) is MUCH harder much harder

and no shame on not being on the level to play with the sweaty crowd

[glass viper]

I ran into birdeye this round, or rather, he ran into me/past me and let me gun him down. Googled him and he is part of goon squad? where were the 2 others? I spent minutes looting him before moving on

[hidden seal]

usually if he is running alonemeans someone killed the other 2 and rtetreated to avoid be sniped by him

then he runs into where the other 2 died

[cinder kernel]

Birdeye isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed

[glass viper]

Well it was out by the pier so I doubt that they were there. I just moved up from the building in pier and he came running from the gas station along with a couple scav

[hidden seal]

true.. but when you are not seeing him.. is when he is dangerous

[frozen gyro]

and a scav just casually one taps me from idk how many meters

again idk why i keep trying XD

[weary sky]

keep trying

[frozen gyro]

i have been for ages

[weary sky]

then keep trying harder

[frozen gyro]

i am unsure if im physically and mentally unable to. other wise it wouldve happened somewhere in the past 1000 hours XD

[marsh marlin]

Do i need this for something like quest? Or i can sell it? I have it in inventory for like 3 weeks and i never used it, it can be only bought from that arena vendor for GP coins

[frozen gyro]

and im already dead again in the next run Xd

[weary sky]

you have 1000 + hours?

[frozen gyro]

1192 to be exact

and its been 1192 hours of running against a brick wall and not being able to do much

i think i got the game when reserve got added? i dont remember

[hardy nova]

Just a quick question anything new to tarkov that new player should know,from last wipe. i joined 2months to tarkov before hardcore wipe ended so just curious.,i did decently just curios did somethin new got added etc

[hidden seal]

I tried to help a bit with his confidence.. but I cannot do miracles

[main epoch]

pls help

[hidden seal]

tried having the market on other slots in your inventory?

[main epoch]

yes

[frozen gyro]

Yea sorry

[still canyon]

yo quick question, how do you usually organize your item cases? Like what's the best loop for storing in it?

[fiery moat]

i have a single item case where i store all my other cases

u wanna see my layout?

[frozen gyro]

I am certainly interested 🤔

[glass burrow]

is ruaf roadblock again open for PMCS in customs?

[tidal lagoon]

nah think its just gone

[glass burrow]

thank u

[hidden seal]

although it is bsg.. never bad Idea to check your extract list after a patch just in case they make a mistake

[glass burrow]

true

[glass viper]

There is like a force field around my weapon when im moving, duno if its ghosting or whats it called, its especially bad at night

I have DLSS off and TAA aa

[gusty blaze]

what map has the most pvp other than labs

[tidal lagoon]

factory probably is where u will get the fastest pvp

[still canyon]

Yeah please

[glass burrow]

who..

[still canyon]

Ahhh

[fiery moat]

.

[fiery moat]

factory. shoreline with health resort and customs with dorms could get you some quick pvp but just a chance

factory is THE pvp map. exits everywhere, small map, low amount of lootable areas

[wicked crescent]

Could someone help me out. Very new and cant find extracts to save my life

[hidden seal]

open a game map ina secodnmonitor or cell phone. Playa lot as scav or practice mode until you learn to fidn where you are

and yes that is the way, if you try to follow someoen I can guarantee you will not learn and will get lost as soon as you do not have a guide. BEst way to learn is doingyourself

[hardy nova]

watch youtube for extract thats how i learned at start,currently got 170h so not expert but most of extract on maps i play ussualy i know. but ofc still yooutube and 3D-intrecative maps etc will help u aswell.

[lapis yoke]

there is a website that has map references.

[golden sky]

Does anyone know how to extend the buttstock

[stark relic]

If I get an underbarrel launcher kill with my ak 12 will it still count for test for drive 3?

[zenith orchid]

does anyone here
have knowledge on how to accpet the against the conscience part one quest
i finished hold the lead
and it hasn't given me the quest yet
im level 2 on ref, level 22 in game, i finished all the main game tasks that lead to it and the arena tasks that lead to it im not sure why it wont appear

[glass viper]

Can people see when I have started the car extract or not?

[proper sphinx]

Only your teammates can, because when they check the extracts they will see a timer on the car.

[crimson thicket]

Yes, the extract will turn green for all pmcs in the server

[glass viper]

This is what I heard before, but it was green in this ground zero raid and no one was there so I paid

so I think its also green if you just know its there cuz u went by it?

[crimson thicket]

If you approach it pass by the extract it turns green

[glass viper]

So then I would not know if someone else paid?

[crimson thicket]

Correct

[glass viper]

Are you sure? asking because im getting killed while waiting for it and timer is running

[crimson thicket]

The timer can only be seen if they've paid.

[proper sphinx]

^^ thank you I forgot to say your teammates have to pay*

[glass viper]

I was laying in the ditch by the car at interchange

[crimson thicket]

But yeah anyone across the map that hasn't approached car extract will see it turn green when you start it

[glass viper]

got killed with 10 sec left

[crimson thicket]

Yeah I'll do that if I'm close to it

Start bombing nades at car

[mint arrow]

Interchange is lowkey mad intimidating as a beginner. (Pillagers whooped my ass)

[wild lava]

the mall is torture early level

[mint arrow]

Real talk, like I can do scav raids on Interchange pretty simple on PvP & PvE respectively. But PMC changes things😥

[wild lava]

I got one PMC kill on interchange last night pvp and thought I was on my way up

got sniped 30 seconds later

[brave forge]

how do you fail chemical part 4?

also can you take the zibbo lighter from golden swag out of raid?

[humble otter]

Yes you can bring the zibbo out of raid

[brave forge]

bettt

that makes that pretty easy

[humble otter]

And if you failed chemical part 4 it means you betrayed the trader by turning the item to someone else

It’s a multi choice with 3 outcomes, but you can only choose one

[brave forge]

oh alr ty i jst wanted to know so i didnt do it

[humble otter]

If you turn it in to prapor you get 3 ammo boxes, therapist gives you injector case and skier gives you grenades box

But like I said. You can only choose one

[tranquil nacelle]

any advice for getting jager intro quest letter done? I have tried 10+ times now killed by level 50+s camping it every time

[tepid arrow]

Night time?

[tranquil nacelle]

i just tried 3 times on night

impossible 🙁

[brave forge]

is it worth turning it in to therapist for the injectors case even though i lose a ton of skier rep?

[tepid arrow]

R u sure they were camping and not just in the area?

[humble otter]

People don’t really camp the airplane area so you’ve been unfortunate every run it seems

[humble otter]

That’s what I do every wipe

[brave forge]

i did it first time earlier today, you just have to avoid the high traffic areas completely an dont try to extract at outskirts or zb-014

[humble otter]

Skier you can pay back 1 million and you’ll get the rep back

[brave forge]

oh ok bet

[humble otter]

Idk if you’ll get all of it back but decent amount

[tepid arrow]

You do

[brave forge]

yea and skier rep is so easy to get anyway

[tranquil nacelle]

last run i did just now I waited full afk for 15 mins at my spawn then got there at 16 mins left in raid

he was just on a rock near the plane waiting

NVGs vudu against my knife wp

[humble otter]

You went in with a knife only?

[tepid arrow]

I mean it a common spot

[tranquil nacelle]

im broke ive tried 10 times now or more

dont have guns to keep bringing lol

[tepid arrow]

If they’ve not got jaeger done and tried 10 times I doubt they have gear

[humble otter]

Maybe a scav shot at you by spine and he realised you were running by so he waited?

[tepid arrow]

Perhaps u could try the opposite approach and get it and get out asap

[tranquil nacelle]

im done trying solo IDC

not worth the time waste

[brave forge]

yea theres like a million scav spawns right there

[humble otter]

Running also makes ridiculous amount of sound

[brave forge]

especially with headphones being super fucking broken rn

[tepid arrow]

I always forget a lot of new players almost exclusively sprint when traversing the map

[humble otter]

Yea everyone got the good ones at high lvl

[brave forge]

its actually ridiculous you can hear someone walking from 60m away

[humble otter]

They gotta be heavy though

Like full bag heavy

I don’t think I’ve heard someone that far unless they’re sprinting tbf

[brave forge]

I just realized i have to go back to customs for my next like 4 tasks lets go

i hate customs

maybe not hate but its not good

[humble otter]

For a beginner I get it

For me it’s my fav but that’s a personal preference

I liked the older version better though before you could access the buildings with the ridiculous amount of windows

[silver karma]

Should I vendor hand drills? Found two of them

[brave forge]

iswtfg i run into dorm and get fucking domed bc of my ushanka

[silver karma]

Nevermind i exfil too quickly and they dont count as found in raid

[hard hedge]

For skier building materials, is there any specific building materials or it’s any?

[brave forge]

any

[brave forge]

i wouldent use ones you need for hideout though

[hard hedge]

Alr

[silver karma]

Now that I have unlocked Prapor and Mechanic, do you guys have a cheap gun build I can run? For now I have been running the vpo single shot 10 rounder skier sells. But I am in a better spot than two days ago (1.1m roubles, several meds and weapons equipment stashes) so i am looking to upgrade

also because my gun sucks, it feels like it shoots pellets

[coral canyon]

you can place cms kits in spec slots????? since when

[coral canyon]

you're really just gonna have to deal with shooting pellets at least until lvls 15-20 i think

[silver karma]

so prapor does not sell better weapons than skier?

both at level 1

[shrewd python]

PP19 all the way

can throw the ekp on it from prapor too

shooting pellets but great recoil and easy to spray for face

[coral canyon]

PP19 probably is your best bet

[silver karma]

Can I put a sight on it?

[midnight ingot]

prapor level1 has EKP-8-02 DT , Obzor, and EKP-1S-03 that can all attach to a default pp-19

or you can buy the pp-19 railed dust cover and put any of the normal picatinny scopes on

[shrewd python]

ekp for sure

[silver karma]

thanks, and I run 9x19 pso gzh?

[glass viper]

Is crouch walking at slowest speed audible to enemies?

[pulsar coral]

yes but obviously much quieter

even turning too fast or opening your bag is as well i believe

[glass viper]

ohh I had the impression slowest speed could not be heard

that means the guy in the room next door obviously heard me lol

[pulsar coral]

aiming your gun and all even makes a little noise

[glass viper]

yeah I know that, and turning makes noise, but I thought slowest careful steps was dead silent

guy started blinking his flashlight and shot 1 bullet in the wall, thought he must have had esp but just my loud ass steps

[coral canyon]

just check the caliber and run whatever is highest pen technically. realistically speaking regardless of what ammo you use at your level you wont be able to pierce any decent armor so you should just be going for legs or face

[brisk epoch]

best way to get good ammo? i know peacekeeper maxed sells decent ammo, but im still .14 from leveling him to max

[grand pelican]

labs res unit area and red keycard drop great ammo, but highly contested. Streets has a bunch of ammo in a lot of different places if you know the map, there's videos for ammo routes on youtube

[mint arrow]

fawkkkkkk

[tepid arrow]

Iirc when ur under weight and on quiet materials slow walking crouch and standing is silent

I could be wrong so double check me if u rlly care

[fiery moat]

what type of ammo u wanna get? like, a certain place where good ammos spawn or traders that sell decent ammo?

for traders, prapor ll4 definitely sells so many good stuff u cant miss out

[proper sphinx]

Long time ago crouch walking on slowest speed was perfectly silent but yeah now people can hear you if they listen carefully 👂

[ember needle]

Hey,

I'm completly new to the game. is ther a way to learn the ropes or do I have to jump straight into games? What's the best way to get started

[weary sky]

if your EU i can show you some stuff

[ember needle]

I'm EU, yes

[weary sky]

sound vc?

[ember needle]

Sure, which channel?

[weary sky]

https://discord.com/channels/521608697764380694/1482610168154820658

[hardy nova]

@weary sky can i hop in aswell kinda new so i might hear new stuff to 😄

[weary sky]

sure ig you can

[cinder coral]

Nikita is Russian Kojima btw

[latent prairie]

where to find bakezy the quickest ?

need one asap

[dusk basalt]

What is the fastest way to get my fence rep up from -12.8?

[desert viper]

Wipe your account

Or do v-ex on every map couple times but think it might not be enough

[quartz quest]

his scav rep btw (lvl 8, and im in a vc with him rn)

[humble eagle]

what did you do😭😭

[tidal lagoon]

holy rep of doom and despair

[desert viper]

The fastes way will be wipe...

[tidal lagoon]

yea nah u are actually fucked lowkey other than wipe

like u could do the tasks he gives u to regain rep and farm car extracts but its so much work just to get back to 0

[dusk basalt]

I thought this was Arena Breakout and kinda shot every Scav and Boss I saw for loot 💀

[tidal lagoon]

ggs

id consider first how far uve progressed with tasks etc and if u think scav rep is valuable enough to reset or account over it

[desert viper]

Haven't you seen negative rep at the end of raid ?

[dusk basalt]

I didn't know there's such a thing till today

[tidal lagoon]

for most people it mainly affects ur scav cooldown but also stuff like car extract prices and btr services

[tidal lagoon]

most people just spam skip through the end of raid screen

[desert viper]

Dude Im playing for over a month did a lot of v-ex and only killed scav once while playing a scav and I am at +2,5 something

Srsly, wipe account

[dusk basalt]

I'm just gonna grind it back tmr

[tidal lagoon]

u are not grinding it back 😭

[dusk basalt]

I'll speedrun whole day tmr

[desert viper]

Dude xD

[tidal lagoon]

if u say so gang 🙏

[desert viper]

It is +0,01 per scav run xDD

[dusk basalt]

Yeah so I will spend the whole day doing scav runs, car extracts and PMC kills as scav

[quartz quest]

yea broski trust em js wipe

[dusk basalt]

I made a lot of progress in the story

[tidal lagoon]

with ur 1 hour scav cooldown 🥀

[quartz quest]

2 actually

[dusk basalt]

24 raids

[tidal lagoon]

2 hours?

awesome sauce

i believe in u bro

[desert viper]

2 hours xDD ?

[dusk basalt]

Fine at least 12

[tidal lagoon]

it might take weeks but ull get there at some point

[dusk basalt]

I will just take co-op extracts as PMC then

[tidal lagoon]

🥀

[desert viper]

There is 99,9 % chance any pmc will blast you away before you will ever be able to voip them

[dusk basalt]

I'm playing PVE

[desert viper]

Do PVE PMCs don't shoot player scavs ?

[quartz quest]

on sight

[dusk basalt]

They do but I will just shoot and lure them in

[tidal lagoon]

oh lowkey if u just stop playing scav and play pmc only then ure lowkey good u will barely notice ur negative rep

[dusk basalt]

Wait hold up I can't finish the game with negative rep?

[tidal lagoon]

yea nah u do need certain rep for some story stuff

i think only 1 ending needs fence rep

[dusk basalt]

Savior right

[tidal lagoon]

ye

[bleak tiger]

How did you manage that in Pve

[desert viper]

He though there is no such thing as rep so he killed scavs for loot as scav

[quartz quest]

we're goin to customs bois

im worried for him

[bleak tiger]

Pve?

[desert viper]

You will be cursed

[dusk basalt]

I always do knife runs

[quartz quest]

help 😭

[bleak tiger]

Good luck with the scavs cause they can smell you

[dusk basalt]

But they're just bots right?

[quartz quest]

like gordon freeman or sumn?

[bleak tiger]

More like the Hunters from Alien movie

[tidal lagoon]

lowkey bro if u do 10 car extracts on each map with car u will only get 4 rep so ye wrap it up

[quartz quest]

atp im going to be the only thing keeping him alive

[desert viper]

When you go in without gun and chestrig you will be cursed and marked. Every Scav will know your location from far away

[fiery moat]

holy abomination, if ur character is not progressed much just wipe and start over, it'll be so much of a hassle to grind it back

the guy with -12 rep

[hidden seal]

damn , this guy must be really evil

[fiery moat]

how many scav kills is that

[hidden seal]

some people try hard to make their lives harder

[fiery moat]

who the fk dropped ts on fence 🥀

fence selling it for 231k btw

hes also selling a mdr below the price that peacekeeper sells. same gun, full durability, bone stock and not stripped.

[hidden seal]

fence also has stuff non insured lost in raid

[fiery moat]

yes ik but anyone using a gun like this would insure it

[hidden seal]

might have just forgotten

alcohol exists

[fiery moat]

fence also has 4 vss vintorez all FIR 100 durability whayt

[safe elk]

Fence does not sell fir items

[fiery moat]

just bought a tier 6 plate with full durability for 50k from him

[fiery moat]

if i didnt refresh the page i'd show you. they were all found in raid vss vintorez with 10 rounders, everything found in raid no bullets and no attachments

as if they were found in normal weapon crates

look another FIR gun. though this one's just tagillas shotgun and not random loot but still FIR

[chrome crown]

why jaeger LL3 isn't open yet?

[bleak tiger]

spend more money

[fiery moat]

but he already spent enough money

[bleak tiger]

He clearly didnt

[safe elk]

No he doesn’t

[fiery moat]

1.6m and 1.6m

[chrome crown]

spent 100K more and LL3 unlocked

[safe elk]

If he did, it wouldn’t be red. It’s a rounding issue

[chrome crown]

but the logic doesn't seem to be working here

[bleak tiger]

It's a rounding

[chrome crown]

could be

1.59 rounded to 1.6 for some reason

[safe elk]

Not could be, it is

It is a fact

[fiery moat]

by rounding do yall mean he spent like 1.596m or the requirement for jaeger 3 is like 1.64m instead of 1.6m

[bleak tiger]

That one

[safe elk]

1st

[fiery moat]

which side is more accurate? 3 modern dmr's

or

[shrewd python]

lol

[fiery moat]

whats more crazy is that the normal version of M1A has 1.52 MOA

thats like, an average assault rifle, not a dmr

[shrewd python]

Yea I really don't get that

Not like DMR's needed an MOA nerf

[fiery moat]

i think SA58 lowkey would make a great DMR then, like how they used LMGs as DMR

but whenever i see someone use it they are just close range aggressive pushers

and most of the time i dont even see this gun in raids at all idk why

what is this gun missing that black mdr or scar 17 has

[shrewd python]

Better recoil, at least the MDR is better

Idk why people use the scar

[fiery moat]

huh? i thought scar had less recoil than mdr

scar h has like same recoil as a 5.45 ak if u mod it

[bleak tiger]

x-17 is simply better

[shrewd python]

maybe a totally unmodded 5.45 ak

FAL is also harder to put a sight on

I think the dust cover with a rail is max trader level

[fiery moat]

isnt that just a 10k dust cover rail that can be bought from traders

idk what level of trader

[shrewd python]

I remember looking for it at some point and I think it is pretty late

but idk

people are weird

[fiery moat]

lightly modded cheap 5.45 ak. but 7.62x51 and 5.45x39 are totally different bullets that an expensive 7.62x51 full auto having same recoil as 5.45 ak would still be considered huge

iirc 5.45 ak's start with around 90-100 vertical recoil bone stock

scar h starts with around 110-ish recoil bone stock

[shrewd python]

Well the actual stats of the recoil don't exactly tell the whole story
visual recoil can be very different even when the numbers are very close

[fiery moat]

yea between 88 to 95 recoil on stock 5.45 ak

[fiery moat]

yes idk why, i built a sa58 and an m16a1, the m16 had 54 recoil but it was still moving around crazy while my current SA58 with 116 recoil is just as controllable as that m16

also, 54 recoil on any smg i use is like laserbeam

[shrewd python]

Yea I hardly look at the damn numbers anymore, they feel totally impossible to compare across calibers

[fiery moat]

i magdumped same target on shooting range

[astral glen]

That’s because they’re not the same

Recoil and ergonomics don’t mean different weapons will perform the same if their stats match

It’s a modifier for the weapons base stats

[shrewd python]

they used to be much more comparable

idk why they changed it

[fiery moat]

recoil of 116 vertical SA58(i just held the mouse a little down, close to no recoil control) magdump

[astral glen]

Please read my previous message

[fiery moat]

i was already sending the image when u were typing

[shrewd python]

mods like bein a bit snarky

[inner isle]

Any tips for just, dealing with arena? Is it skill based matchmaking or? Bc i feel horribly outskilled in Every match

I jus wanna transfer my stuff from arena to PvE but goddamn it is Difficult when teammates also leave

[shrewd python]

If you come from PvE it's gonna be harder
Just takes some practice
stick with one map for a bit until you learn it well

[astral glen]

Join the Arena discord and find people to play with

[shrewd python]

??arena

[red thistle]

Looking for Arena battle buddies? Head over to the Arena discord! https://discord.gg/EueARD5byy

[shrewd python]

Yea playing with people helps, you can get advice on loadouts too

[inner isle]

I jus needa win 2 matches where im in the top 3, then i tbh aint touchin arena for a While

[shrewd python]

yea just farm checkpoints on a certain map, ideally with a 5 man team who can slow down their kills if need be

I've done that with loads of people trying to get that task done

like if you suck, you're gonna suck and need to practice for a bit so you can get enough kills to be top 3
but that won't take long

[inner isle]

Tempting yeah, tbh i just want teammates who kinda stick together as usually i only die when im jumped by 2 or more

[shrewd python]

well being able to talk to them is def step 1

[inner isle]

1v1s i can deal with

[bleak tiger]

No sbmm.

I was lucky enough to get that whole quest line done in 3-4 hours solo

But you can’t guarantee a win streak playing solo

[plush moon]

Could anyone play with me. I’m having trouble getting around woods

[muted python]

like lack of map knowledge or just dying repetitively?

[plush moon]

Lack of map knowledge

[plush moon]

Lack of map knowledge

[muted python]

Just pull up a map of woods on google to help learn the different places, which can help direct you and tell you where you are. You could also skav to learn the map

and just know that the huge rock mountain basically the center

[hidden seal]

dammit saw 2 things shooting me far away selected the wrong one as PMC a nd paid the price

[frozen gyro]

still seem to be unable to survive. either chad kills me within 1 min. or i spawn next to the pillagers who then delete me still

[hidden seal]

The pillagers spawn is never aroudn you.. so you can just avoid movign into that direciton

they took care of making their spawn not have any PMC spawn inside them

And dieign to chad is normal. I just died to a 3.4K hours level 46 player.. part of game.. I made my common mistake. lack of patience

[frozen gyro]

not "next" next to. but idk all the spawns and wander rounds so idk i would get thanos snapped if i went near the big camp thing on woods when i spawn right next to it on the main road

[hidden seal]

well that is an issue that you can work to solve you need to know the map

[frozen gyro]

i know but again. going 6 raids. 6 deaths gets tired again

[hidden seal]

and durign events check on wiki where the event spawn

[frozen gyro]

or just avoid the map until event is over. but tbh if it wasnt them i wouldve been rushed by the spawn next to me anywayyy

[hidden seal]

If I had waited 1 minute before goign for loot I would have killed the guy, but I was impatient

as usual. I would never be a good rat

[hidden seal]

they are in most maps

there are only 2 pmc spawn nearish the areas where the raiders spawn in woods

and it is rather open ground, you shoudl be able to spot it and avoid or approach carefully

[frozen gyro]

yup thats why i cant play most maps atm

[hidden seal]

they spawn in emercon base and near scav bunker. There is no pmc spawn close to scav bunker. Closest oen is behind a tiny lake

[frozen gyro]

i was at emercom. so i would either get pushed by other side of the road. or sniped from accross the lake

or thanos snapped by pillagers cus they spawn there apparently

[frozen gyro]

also one of the villages

[hidden seal]

You do not sit there when you spawn.. move east imemdiately when you spawn there.. get at least into the forested area

if you stay near the rocks you will die

the only good thing on the rocks spawn is .. there is only 1 other PMC spawn near you

so you know where a threat will come from

[frozen gyro]

i wasnt gonna stay there. i pushed out. wich got me killed. staying wouldve got me killed. death is unavoidable and a constant

[hidden seal]

do you have a map open showing the PMC spawns?

[swift rampart]

So I installed the game like yesterday, had to reinstall (I played previously but for like 2 hours at most per wipe) and now idk if I should focus on trader quests or story ones

[hidden seal]

why focus?

[frozen gyro]

i have one montitor and tarkov being the great game it iss would probably crash when i alt tab. or id die when alt tabbed/ so why bother

[hidden seal]

but story do nto give rewards

[weary sky]

both

[swift rampart]

Well because I'm learning maps

And basically every task is a 15 min video for me🤣

[hidden seal]

and how that related to choosing a type of task? that will not change anythign regardign learning maps

focus on learnign maps and do whatever tasks you have on those maps

[swift rampart]

Will do it like that then

Customs just scares the living hell out of me

[hidden seal]

normal

focus on learnign to figure where you spawned

play as scav adn practice mode until you can do that

[frozen gyro]

just trying to get the 40m kills still. but have made 0 progress in the past few days

[hidden seal]

after not long you will be able to figure where you are within 5 seconds.. and that helps a lot surviving

[swift rampart]

Thank you, and do we have a lfg here if you know? I cannot find it

[hidden seal]

I just took a cheap 215 and almot nothign else and spawned again and again on woods

in fact was one of the quests that tought me most about not giving a fuck

[frozen gyro]

ive been doin that with a mosin and bankrobber. but nope

[hidden seal]

a few channels below this one

[hidden seal]

215 is cheaper i think also you need to learn to hide a bit at start seems

[frozen gyro]

i need to learn everything while not being capable of doin so XD

step one find a scav before i die. near impossble. step 2 hit the scav instead of missing and getting one tapped. step 3. pray he dies and doesnt tank 8 shots and kills you

[hidden seal]

then play only scav like @upper knot until you know the maps as the back of your hand

[hidden seal]

again.. you have a map open showign where they spawn?

[upper knot]

[hidden seal]

they are predictable. just camp an area they will spawn in. no need to wander

[upper knot]

What has my reputation become

[frozen gyro]

same answer as last time. nope cus i have one monitor

[frozen gyro]

problem being getting there

[hidden seal]

I also have 1 monitor. I use a cell phone

without an external map.. trying to learn this game is futile

[hidden seal]

I did not even slander you there

damn.. can't beleive I am about to say that.. but I need soap

[frozen gyro]

yup ive noticed. average 10 hours timmy will probably rock my shit xD my 1000 hours mean nothing

[hidden seal]

1000 hours woudl mean if you had learned the maps. but without an external map that is absurdly hard

you take 10 times logner to learn on brute force

[misty wyvern]

i hate this game but i cant stop playing

[frozen gyro]

i used to have printed maps. but then they change. and update. and add events

[upper knot]

I went to Labs yesterday man ;sob

[frozen gyro]

unironically tempted to change my ingame name to freexp or freeloot xd

[upper knot]

I was playing like a pussy but still 😭

[hidden seal]

that is nice

but as I said I was not slandering.. was telling him.. if he is failign to learn the map as PMC.. learn as scav

scav is good for that

[upper knot]

Ye dw about it lmao it's funny even if it was slander

🤣

Maybe it's time to rebrand to NaturalScav or ScavBottle

[hidden seal]

it was not.. calling you picachu was a slander

[upper knot]

😭

[swift rampart]

Is there a way for me to put a sight on M4 traders lvl 0 and no workbench?

I have therapist skier and ragman

And fence ofc

I found a vortex but it's not compatible

[humble cave]

Remove the carry handle and get the "SIG Sauer ROMEO7 1x30 reflex sight" from Skier LL1 for example

There is also the "Walther MRS reflex sight" but it sucks

[swift rampart]

Thank tou

[hidden seal]

imho.. very personal take but taht early M4 is better used as sold and buy more of weapons you can afford to use

[swift rampart]

Like? I have seriously no idea what I'm doing atp

I'm just tryna do all the quests on ground zero but yeah

[hidden seal]

try to unlock prapor and mechanic

unlockign some traders early is more important than trying to do tasks

prapor have a good selection of early weapons

[swift rampart]

So to the customs I go

[hidden seal]

you just need to visit it 3 times and collect 8 buildign materials

the colelct doe snto even need to be as pmc

[swift rampart]

Or survive once right?

[hidden seal]

can be as scav

yes

[swift rampart]

Great, I shall attempt it

Thank you

Is there a way for me to get rid of this gas block on M4 before I unlock these traders?

[hidden seal]

M4 is annoying hard to mod before you have some traders at level 2

it is really not an early weapon

[swift rampart]

I mean it's either that or ak 103

[hidden seal]

at start you shoudl be usign even simpoelr stuff

like saigas, Vepr carbines, and AK-74U when you get prapor

that is why unlocking prapor should be your priority

[swift rampart]

Yeah however I kinda need a weapon to go through all these quests you know that's the part I'm struggling with

[hidden seal]

pistol

you should probably be avoiding fights with PMC at this stage, specially you being late in wipe

at least until you unlock some traders

[swift rampart]

I thought there won't be any wipes anymore

[hidden seal]

yes but you have early equipment when almsot all players are runnign level 4-5 armor. you will NOT pierce their armor

with your M4 and the ammo you have

[fiery moat]

until you get peacekeeper 4 and access m856a1, i dont recommend you using 5.56 weapons altogether

[hidden seal]

so you would be just wasting your M4

[fiery moat]

i always tell people to run smgs,shotguns and possibly bolt action rifles on early levels, just like how they are unlocked before other type of guns on flea market.

[hidden seal]

tbh you can start lootign it earlier but he need access to woods and lighhouse for that

Your priority is not fighting. is make the maps visits as requested by tour. And use yoru scav to get the items the game ask

[fiery moat]

a solid shot with a bolt action to their unprotected face is still deadly, or an smg spraying their face like a deodorant, or a shotgun that eats their legs, but you are not going to outgun a pmc with your cheap ar and cheap bullets

[hidden seal]

then when you have prapor and mechanic you can start assemblign some weapons to kill stuff

[fiery moat]

9x19 pst and a pp19 vityaz is all he needs to be confident

got so many kills with this combo literally

[hidden seal]

mechanic at start also have a very good cheap weapon on UMP45

[fiery moat]

my peacekeeper was still at his first task when i unlocked prapor 4, i had access to 9x19 pbp earlier than ap 6.3, and most of the time i just used 9x19 pst with 20 pen just enough to penetrate death shadow and got so many kills with it

[hidden seal]

it eats ammo so fast lol

[fiery moat]

700rpm

when most 9x19 smgs have way higher firerate

[hidden seal]

aa true I am mixing with klin rpm

[swift rampart]

Well imma use mp5 I found in one of my bags and hope to survive customs

Thank you guys

[hidden seal]

mp5 is better for this stage than m4 yeah

[fiery moat]

mp5 is solid and deadly no matter what, good luck

[hidden seal]

as on .. same deadliness

[swift rampart]

Is there a sight I can smack on it?

[hidden seal]

but the M4 either you sell or save for later

[swift rampart]

Or just iron sight it

[hidden seal]

on skier.. let me see

walter MRS I think fits

[fiery moat]

never go iron sight unless u have to

its the most important modding piece of a weapon

[swift rampart]

Oh so red dot

[fiery moat]

valday pk-06 and pk-120(cheap reddot and cheap holo) are still totally viable and very very cheap if u can get ur hands on. idc what ppl say, they do enough

[swift rampart]

I think it needs a mount tho

[hidden seal]

check wiki.. best place to check what can fit on where

[swift rampart]

Oh so it's peacekeeper lvl 1

[hollow parcel]

is there an easier way to learn the maps, i feel like i just end up running in circles

ive been using map genie but its hard to figure out where i even am in retrospec to the map

[hidden seal]

open your cell phoen leave in front of your monitor with the map open (search google for it)

then play as scav and practice

a LOT until you can spot the landmarks

Seriously trying to run as PMC before you have ran 5-6 times as practice or scav is dumbish

[hollow parcel]

ive been on customs numerous times as scav i just keep ending up by the rail road track where i get sniped out of no where (pve)

[hidden seal]

because you need a flare to use that extract

if you try to advance on the railroad without a flare you die. That is written in the maps

[hollow parcel]

yeah im not even trying to use the extract i get lost trying to get across the map to dorms

cause ive been getting the old gate road extract frequently

[bitter drum]

LFG w/ Sherpa or anyone who knows what they're doing, if possible.

[hidden seal]

because that is always open

again play practice mode.. learn ALL extracts

then you go as PMC

[hollow parcel]

im trying, i cant even make it to an extract to learn it the maps are so confusing

[hidden seal]

dorms is the most dangerous place in the map

[hidden seal]

takes a bit to learn.. normal

I played scav a lot until I coudl navigate somewhat

[hollow parcel]

they just need to make it more beginner friendly, if my buddy didnt play and walk me through alot i woulda returned this day 1

[hidden seal]

then practice mode and visited each extract in practice mode.. no enemies

you do know what practice mode is right?

[hollow parcel]

yeah

still doesnt help when you can barely navigate through the map

[hidden seal]

use it.. is your BEST ally

[hidden seal]

it doe shelp because you a re a human. HUmans cannot learn multiple things at same time. So you can learn the map without having to learn to deal with PMCs