beginners-assistance

[bronze inlet]

to the stockades with you

[teal depot]

Sell or keep

[visual seal]

what would i keep it for

[edgy plover]

store naughty photos on it

[bronze inlet]

crafts or barters

[pale yew]

You must be in a raid for a total of 7 minutes or gain a total of 200 EXP while in raid for a non run through raid.

[visual seal]

i was in factory and i didnt want to die

all i had was a double barrel

[bronze inlet]

too bad

[teal depot]

I think it’s more now even tho the wiki says 200

[edgy plover]

this is what wanting to live gets you

[pale yew]

Interesting

[edgy plover]

I don't think so

I know it's still 1 scav kill + loot

[hasty aspen]

I always thought it was 400 for some reason

[teal depot]

Had a guy yesterday get a run through at 208

[pale yew]

Yea odd

[edgy plover]

Oh interesting

[teal depot]

I got one this wipe at 256

[tidal lagoon]

i think extracting gives xp or some shit, so you need to gain 200 xp before extracting while in raid not just have 200 xp show up on the end of raid screen

[bronze inlet]

exploration bonus doesnt count i think

[tidal lagoon]

prolly not

[teal depot]

It does

I think at least

[formal nest]

I am sure it does as well

[tidal lagoon]

you get a 1.5x multiplier for extracting so u prolly need it to show like 300xp or smt at end of raid screen

[bronze inlet]

i get 200 exploration bonus from getting near gate 3 so that means itd be impoosible to run thru

[edgy plover]

You don’t get an exploration bonus every time

[teal depot]

Only first time

[lapis phoenix]

Does anyone have the key for Delivery from the past ? I'm looking for someone to do the missions with, I don't know Customs and Factory pretty well (EU servers)

[hollow bridge]

Is there a good spot on Ground Zero where I can find Ololo Multivitamins for the med station in the hideout? Newbie here and struggling to find that one item.

[edgy plover]

over by emercom extract

lot of meds

[hollow bridge]

Gotcha. I'll have to keep running that one. I've done a lot of factory runs too and never found them in the med tent

[woven leaf]

Having trouble with punisher p4, can't seem to find people on lighthouse,killing rogues and clearing thr whole map, any tips on where people are this wipe, I'm hoping thr weekend has busier matches

[edgy plover]

Yea Woods or Streets would be the next best maps

[teal depot]

Street’s supremacy 💪😎

[edgy plover]

just finished it, was super annoying
got most of my kills early in the raid catching spawns
the rest were mostly up by the bridges from village to cabins to water treatment

[torn rapids]

chalets and the village (i forgot) the name

yeah the village and bridge is really good

[woven leaf]

Thanks for the quick responses, gonna grind some more tonight

[hollow bridge]

A bit overwhelmed with the maps right now. I'm comfortable with factory and ground zero and starting to learn woods... But it's easy to get turned around. Using map genie where I can

[edgy plover]

Woods is really hard to learn but insanely valuable once you do, keep at it, good luck

[teal depot]

You got free time in the weekend ?

You got any free time in the weekend?*

[hollow bridge]

Yep. Sure do

[teal depot]

I could teach you a bit if you would like

[hollow bridge]

That'd be great. I'll shoot you a message this weekend

[teal depot]

I added you

Btw any map in particular you would like to learn ?

[hollow bridge]

Awesome. Maybe Customs or Shoreline - they pop up for a few trader quests, but haven't attempted them yet. Not sure if there's a natural progression with quests or if they take you to all maps at low levels. I'm level 8 right now

[teal depot]

Sounds good

[tidal lagoon]

theres no really natural progression for quests they take u to all the maps quite quickly except the lab, u do the ones u have in any order u want

[hollow bridge]

Gotcha. Makes sense for introducing the different locations.

I'm working to get over gear fear at the moment - and trying not to slow walk everywhere to avoid making noise. It's getting there

[chrome tapir]

I just started playing tarkov a few weeks ago. Intimidating at first for sure but you’ll get more used to it

[chrome tapir]

The practice mode really helps. Get into pvp as much as you can and get the hang of it.

[hollow bridge]

I've done a handful of offline raids to walk the maps, which has helped. I've also been watching videos from some creators like Pestily.

I've been leaning too heavily on factory scav raids recently. It's been a good money maker though

[dry flint]

So are lighthouse rogues back to pre Halloween behavior? where they just sit put on roofs?

[chrome tapir]

Yeah it can be tough if you’re not ready to move quick and get into fights though. There are runs on ground Zero and reserve that are pretty quick and easy and most of the time are risk free

[kind quartz]

is the lab worth going to at level 12? i have a couple keycards but idk if i should even try

seems scary

[tidal lagoon]

there is a 99% chance u will get fucked

[edgy plover]

Run a couple practice mode Labs raids to learn the map and the raiders

[bold kernel]

if you know map and you are good at aiming sure if not dont try

[kind quartz]

i feel that way about most map tbh

[edgy plover]

Otherwise you'll just be wasting cards

[celest island]

just do what you want if you think it will be fun then play it

[bronze inlet]

you will need 4 for quests early on

[kind quartz]

ive been playing factory and woods on repeat.. im also adverse to offline raids for some reason i like just throwing myself to the wolves

im ready to try another map

[bronze inlet]

nah you need to offline atleast once

[celest island]

then i would try it out its not that hard to get more

learning new maps is a lot of fun

[kind quartz]

i really have to start using the offline raids , its a major flaw of mine

shit just takes so long, i aint got time for practice

[celest island]

i have never used those for learning personaly, you learn stuff you dont think about playing real matches

but if it works for you thats good too

[kind quartz]

thats how i feel, and i have 2 monitors with mapgenie and the wiki up so i dont feel completely lost when i play

[edgy plover]

Imo practice mode is great for really honing stuff you don't have time to think about playing online
Hipfire is a good example

[celest island]

ive never had issues with pvp but if you want to learn i feel arenas a better learning place

[edgy plover]

True, arena is better now

[kind quartz]

Arena has helped me a lot with shooting and gunplay mechanics

[edgy plover]

Yea honestly learning labs initially is one of the few remaining use cases for offline

[bronze inlet]

get rid of map genie https://www.eftmaps.net

[celest island]

gunplay and mechanics are crucial but you should also try and learn maps it can be more helpful in many situations

[viscid geyser]

[celest island]

wtf?

[viscid geyser]

why is shit fucked

lol

[honest flare]

Is it better to just shoot first ask questions later as a scav?

[kind quartz]

thanks ill check that out , ive got used to mapgenie at this point

[bronze inlet]

did you pay for it?

[celest island]

thats a big no

[bronze inlet]

the opposite

[celest island]

unless you dont care about rep

[kind quartz]

yea

[bronze inlet]

ouch

[kind quartz]

i got got

it was like $3 i think nothing too crazy

[honest flare]

Well I keep running into this problem where I cant tell if someone is a scav due to their clothing. When its very obviously a scav, of course I wont shoot but theres so many times I die to a PMC becuase I didnt shoot when I didnt know if they were a scav or not. I guess in the grand scheme of things I should just take the shot instead of waiting to confirm

[celest island]

its kinda just how it is

[sly yoke]

Newly starting streets now what are the vital keys to buy?

[bronze inlet]

no lol, change the routes youre taking so that people arent so hard to see

[celest island]

conc 64

[tidal lagoon]

the few times when i play scav i just avoid other players cuz i cba to find out, i just go loot stashes

[honest flare]

Reserve basement is dark and long range, cant change the map :p

[celest island]

lots of the conc keys are great cheap options

[honest flare]

Smart, ill probably start doing that

[viscid geyser]

would clearing the cache help with the slow loading screens when launching the game? or just make it worse

[native kraken]

Helps with mine so try clearing it

[celest island]

IDK if it will make it faster but it wont make it slower

[viscid geyser]

ok

[bronze inlet]

youre not supposed to go down there as a scav. thats a PMC hotspot with PMC tasks

[bronze inlet]

https://exputer.com/guides/settings/best-escape-from-tarkov-settings/

[wheat tree]

is there anyone here that knows how the damn zeroing works in this game. like does it matter at all? sometimes I aim from around 400m distance, aiming right on the head with the zeroing set to only 50 meters and it still hits the target where I aim. and sometimes i aim with same zeroiung at lower ranges like 100-250 and the bullet goes way above the reticle or below...

[bronze inlet]

it doesnt work how it realistically does. it basically lowers the scope crosshair slighlty. thats it.

[limber notch]

just wondering, how isnt this a head eyes?

[bronze inlet]

gun has no irons, which means its not actually aiming straight, its tilted upwards slightly

[honest flare]

LOL fr?

[bronze inlet]

youre a SCAVENGER, not a combatant

[limber notch]

oh wow didnt know about this tnx

[bronze inlet]

same on any gun that has no irons

[limber notch]

ty

[celest island]

i go own there every scav on reserve there are always bodys be it raiders or players

[honest flare]

Thats what im saying

Some good ass loot down there

I only scav reserve

[celest island]

👍

[bronze inlet]

yes but compared to the free stuff scattered around the map, youre taking a LARGE risk going anywhere a PMC is guaranteed to be or have been

[bold kernel]

Hey so im a level 3 that found a labs card, what should I do with it

[celest island]

its just a scav and there are many ways to play as a scav

[honest flare]

Good thing my scav loadout only costs me 30 minutes if I die

[edgy plover]

hold onto it for now or sell it

[honest flare]

The risk v reward is well worth it

[tidal lagoon]

30 minutes is a lot man

[native kraken]

High risk high reward plus it’s a scav you get a new one antway

[bronze inlet]

you CAN play however youd like, but dont complain about high risk high reward routes if youre unwilling to change

[honest flare]

I dont recall anyone complaining

[bold kernel]

Alr tnx

[bronze inlet]

someone was complaining about not being able to tell pmc from scav in an area known for PMC activity

[honest flare]

It wasnt a complaint. It was a question as to whether or not I should KOS as a scav :p

[edgy plover]

Ignore sak

[honest flare]

Lol

Is that a common thing around here?

[edgy plover]

No, he's pretty unique

[honest flare]

I meant ignoring Sak

[edgy plover]

Oh yea

[bronze inlet]

just shep. i have an entire server of 100 people i play with or have taught how to play that revere me

[edgy plover]

lmao

[celest island]

sounds pretty egotistical : /

[bronze inlet]

im the center of the conversation

[edgy plover]

see what I mean

[honest flare]

mhm

[celest island]

wtf does that have to do with you saying that 100 ppl revere you lmao

[honest flare]

Big guy thinks hes god or something

[bronze inlet]

LOL shep says its common that people ignore me lmao

[honest flare]

Best tark player to ever do it

[celest island]

hes got a god complex lol

[honest flare]

I can tell!

[bronze inlet]

you can check the server or live in ignorance, choice is yours

[honest flare]

"live in ignorance" is crazy

[celest island]

he sounds like a anime character

[bronze inlet]

my bad for not speaking solely in ebonics

[honest flare]

💀

[bronze inlet]

https://youtube.com/shorts/59zvuoRn39o?si=xaeKtHo9CrQUnNBe

[honest flare]

@celest island @edgy plover

His server of "100" people who are NOT living in ignorance

[edgy plover]

"Uncensored"

[celest island]

tarkov pron

[honest flare]

Stay out of my dms @bronze inlet

[edgy plover]

same

[bronze inlet]

if youre dms are open to non friends you cant complain about receiving dms

[edgy plover]

No but we can ask you stop

[celest island]

👍

[honest flare]

^

[bronze inlet]

acknowledged

[reef spoke]

Smells like bait and engagement farming.

[bronze inlet]

its an "assisstance" channel, thats the point...

[edgy plover]

Tower had Sak pegged from the start lmao

[honest flare]

hehe

[bronze inlet]

stop feeding it then

nothing i say is bait tho, my opinions and views are all directly stated and backed up

[celest island]

could you show me the back up where you have 100 ppl who revere you?

[hasty aspen]

aint no way hes still going

[reef spoke]

Wouldn't shock me tbh. I saw a lot of morons with cult-like following numbers in the thousands.

The quality of a community speaks more about the leaders of the community than anything imo.

[bronze inlet]

while i hang out in "beginners assistance" most of the day answering questions if im not directly sherpa-ing

[reef spoke]

Ye , not saying you don't.

[frosty musk]

The hell going on here

[bronze inlet]

sheps smear campaign against me is working

[edgy plover]

Nothing you aren't doing to yourself my friend

[bronze inlet]

while you actively seek my interactions to disgrace me

[frosty musk]

If you advertise your weird discord to people unsolicited, then I'm not surprised

[edgy plover]

Please ignore him, he's a master baiter

[bronze inlet]

as if thats not how servers find members...

[austere hound]

Lol

[frosty musk]

What does uncensored even mean there

y'all just yell slurs at each other or something?

[reef spoke]

I mean honestly props , the gent has a pretty solid methodology for his craft.

It trips my "used car salesmen / pawn broker " vibe detector heavily.

[bronze inlet]

basically nothing tbh. discord enforces censorship which i detest, but powerlessly

[edgy plover]

It is impressive

[reef spoke]

Artful trolling / engagement farming is always respected.

[bronze inlet]

what exactly about me saying basically anything would cause that... im not selling anything

[austere hound]

If you really hate it, you should switch your group over to Revolt and host your own server

[frosty musk]

I think a better way to advertise a discord is find people is to seek out people actively looking for a group, and asking them if they want to check out your discord

[bronze inlet]

.

[frosty musk]

Then sending it

[austere hound]

I hate censorship and love open source lol

[edgy plover]

Just don't get farmed yourself

[bronze inlet]

speaking from experience

[reef spoke]

It's a vibe thing. Effectively what I'm saying is you have a way of phrasing things that lend me to think you've got secondary motivations is all. Between the topic focus and seemingly deliberately odd phrase choices.

It's quality none the less.

[bronze inlet]

is it literally a copy and pasted discord but for people who arent (insert derogatory phrase)?

[austere hound]

It's just discord, but you host it yourself instead. It's all hosted locally on your machine

[bronze inlet]

OH

[reef spoke]

[redacted white knighting ]

[austere hound]

Mmhm. I really wish one of the alternatives would take off already. Discord blows. It's so hard to get people to switch to other things though. I don't really get why. You just click a different app lol. Same goes for browsers. Idky most people don't switch to something else that does the job just as well

[bronze inlet]

CHROME SUCKS ASS

[austere hound]

Everyone just uses chrome or chromium

[bronze inlet]

who am i rescuing exactly?

[austere hound]

I don't get it. Just install another browser. Takes 10 seconds. You can even migrate all your bookmarks, passwords, etc. people just don't do it lol

[edgy plover]

People by and large dislike change

[bronze inlet]

which do you use

[bronze inlet]

once a (derogatory phrase) always a (derogatory phrase)

[edgy plover]

sure?

[reef spoke]

no no you misunderstanding

[bronze inlet]

its not as good tbh, its less intuitive, and theres just general bugs, but it is cool, thanks for this

[bronze inlet]

white knighting is the act of saving someone from a circumstance they dont neccesarily need saving, no?

[frosty musk]

Discord has brand recognition, it has features, it has a userbase

Nobody is knocking it from the top

[bronze inlet]

yeah but the constant censorship and narrative pushing is disgusting

[bold kernel]

well it's their platform and they can set rules

[frosty musk]

I haven't seen discord advertise a single political thing to me

[bold kernel]

and you agreed to them by using discord

[bold kernel]

me too bro

[bronze inlet]

only bc theres not really any competition

[indigo wagon]

I need a guide on what ammo to keep lol

[bronze inlet]

https://www.eft-ammo.com

[indigo wagon]

but what ones do I keep 😦

[bronze inlet]

high penetration ammo is usually the more expensive

if you like to shoot at legs, look for cheaper ammo

[indigo wagon]

Higher flesh dmg vs pen

[reef spoke]

ye hence the joke [redeacted white knighting] to the (Derogatory phrase)

[indigo wagon]

I have lvl 2 traders atm, I'm mostly looking for what rounds to not use and not keep

trying to clear stash space

[bronze inlet]

oh the () was the white knight lmao

[reef spoke]

which is why its silly.

[bronze inlet]

it depends man, if you like shooting thorax then you want high penning, and if you like legs then look for damage

[bronze inlet]

cute

[reef spoke]

no u

[indigo wagon]

Does pen only apply to armor?

Like I've been shot through both arms before, did pen calculate for that?

[kind elbow]

Can you kill a dude shooting only legs?

[reef spoke]

loosely, there is pen and pen power. pen power isn't talked about as much but is what governs how well a projectile will go through world objects

[wheat tree]

what heppens when the target is lets say at 80 meters. like for example, you know for a fact its above 50m but you arent sure if its above 100 or below. it would be safer to change your zeroing to 100 right? but thats only with the default bullet. what if my bullet has 100m/s bigger velocity, do i increase the zeroing or just leave the default

[bronze inlet]

very quickly yes

[reef spoke]

including players / hit boxes

[indigo wagon]

Yeah there's some damage taken overall when taking dmg from a blacked limb

[spiral bloom]

as a general rule, if you can buy it freely from traders it's probably not necessary to keep it

[indigo wagon]

Is any ammo worth selling on flea?

Or should I just trader it all away

[bronze inlet]

unless its something crazy like m80, 55a1, ap 6.3 or others that have limited quantity available

[bronze inlet]

flechette, rip, m80, ap-m

[reef spoke]

always check, still like APM .366 TKM normally sells for a high amount per round

[spiral bloom]

LPS is a good sell as well

[bronze inlet]

just leave it at 100 always

[reef spoke]

LPS has more utility than its sell value imo but I also play the longer range game

[spiral bloom]

I def use all of mine too lol, SVD gamer checking in

[bronze inlet]

nah even in an svd at short range LPS is valid and cheap

[reef spoke]

im more speaking for the fact its the default ammo on the SV98 in this case, it makes doing the math for extended range shots easier ( like way over 450m)

[bronze inlet]

default? in raid svd has t45 in it...

[reef spoke]

default for the svd is 7n1 actually

the sv98 is LPS

[bronze inlet]

wtf is 7n1

[reef spoke]

7n1 is PS sorry

[bronze inlet]

and i meant sv98, its 100% t45

[reef spoke]

the Rus have two naming systems for the ammo and they both have been in tarkov at one time or another

[bronze inlet]

yeah i know, theres still things named that, just didnt know that one

[bronze inlet]

interesting...

wait scav kits arent default then

that means FIR right

[reef spoke]

ye

but not always

about 3 years ago that was the case though

[wheat tree]

always ? wont that suck in encounters at range of like 15-50m

[bronze inlet]

nope. no difference

basically makes your sight 1% more accurate to where the barrel is pointed.

almost imperceivable

[reef spoke]

the 50m zero works diffrently than the rest of the zeroing (for super sonic rounds anyways)

[crude anvil]

just zero as u go doesnt really matter

50m is the middle ground

[bronze inlet]

zeroing does almost nothing

[crude anvil]

its def useful but theres barely any engagements where u need zeroing

[wheat tree]

if im using a default set round to the gun, then zeroing should be decently accurate to the distance of the enemy. what if the round that im using has 200m/s less velocity.

[reef spoke]

depedning on the drag profile of the bullet, ( presuming its the same) The 100m zero will act more like a 70 meter zero

[bronze inlet]

bullets follow an arc, not a straight line, so youre losing just about that much from the ARC

[wheat tree]

using the cheap vpo bolt actyion i know iuts accuracy is kinda ass. but when i put in the AP rounds then its super ass

[bronze inlet]

APM has an accuracy debuff

[wheat tree]

its velocity is like 200+ less

[wheat tree]

so the slower bullet would actually be more accurate than the default one if the range is below 50m ? with 50m zeroing

[crisp heron]

So if i put the rig on the bag

will those debuff affecting me?

or is it only working while i 'wear' it

[wheat tree]

just the weight i think

[raw wharf]

is this a cursed m4 build ?

[bronze inlet]

probably not

[bronze inlet]

no, i run that early wipe

save a few parts

[raw wharf]

what do you run now ?

[bronze inlet]

anything i have ammo for

[reef spoke]

APM flight path

[clever echo]

usec or bear?

[bronze inlet]

usec is easier

[clever echo]

hows it easier

[raw wharf]

its easier in 1 map thats it

[bronze inlet]

the rogues on lighthouse are less aggressive

[clever echo]

i dont play lighthouse

[bronze inlet]

you will

[clever echo]

im a customs demon

[raw wharf]

i just randomly save ammo , i was farming sost by crafting it tho

[bronze inlet]

sost sucks

[wheat tree]

wait so 50m and below, an apm one shots a lv4 armor ?

[raw wharf]

really ?

[bronze inlet]

yes

[raw wharf]

what do i use then ? m855 ?

[bronze inlet]

good if you hit legs, nothing else

[bronze inlet]

m855 is much more versatile

[wheat tree]

but does it one shots just a lv4 aramid or lv2 aramid + l4 plate

[bronze inlet]

should go thru both

[raw wharf]

but it says sost has more pen than m855

or did this get outdated by 0.14

[nocturne lark]

m855 is dogshit

[nocturne lark]

sost is better

they made it better this wipe

[raw wharf]

both are pretty similar

[nocturne lark]

just use sost if u have it

[nocturne lark]

its better

[bronze inlet]

that is news to me

[bold kernel]

If you have sost use sost if you don't use m855 easy as that

[nocturne lark]

whats that website

[torn rapids]

what app is that

[raw wharf]

i use 15 sost + 15 m855 in a mag

or do i just go 30 sost ?

[nocturne lark]

thats decent

i mag dumped killa with 40 bullets of m855 and trust me that shit is a fucking peashooter

hit him like 25 times

[rare vault]

gonna need the sauce on this one chief

[reef spoke]

it used to , less so now with the new system it seems

[reef spoke]

tarkov ballstics , self pluging the website.

[rare vault]

ah got it thanks

[rare vault]

avg m855 experience

[wheat tree]

i wanna kinda make a tldr for myself for the zeroing. lets say im sniping and i know its definetly 150+ meters, Its allways better to set it to 150 than leaving it to 50 right? and if the bullet velocity is MUCH lower it would need to increase it by like 50 more than i think and if MUCH faster i would need to increase the velocity by 50 less than i think. Would this be a suitable golden rule to follow ?

[reef spoke]

unironically, leave it at 100m until you really explore what the zeroing does at extended ranges

[indigo wagon]

Just leave it at 100 for everything

[reef spoke]

until you get over 200m , then 100m zero will be fine for head shots

(in most cases)

[indigo wagon]

Aren't most scopes in the game default set at 100m

[reef spoke]

No

[indigo wagon]

Your zero might be 50 but I thought dot on scopes is at 100m

idk just something my friend told me

[wheat tree]

100m zeroing for most cases, but when its above 200m increase it by another 50 ?

[indigo wagon]

From what I know the scopes don't really mimic real life too much

[crude anvil]

sost is legit better than m855

[bronze inlet]

yeah i see that now, didnt know they changed it

[crude anvil]

still sucks ass but better

[indigo wagon]

lower frag but higher accuracy

[reef spoke]

Tarkov does this with the 50m zwero

zero*

[raw wharf]

what is scav war

[bronze inlet]

scavs fight eachother

[raw wharf]

even ai scavs ?

[indigo wagon]

yeah IRL ACOG is meant to be zeroed at 100m

[bronze inlet]

only ai scavs

[raw wharf]

and tagged n cursed means they will chase you right ?

[indigo wagon]

tarkov works like this?http://i.imgur.com/2mSbCuN.jpg?1

[reef spoke]

yes

[indigo wagon]

Okay, I will be leaving my zero at 100m for basically all scopes

[reef spoke]

ye , again until you get past the 200m range, or are shooting sub sonic at extended ranges, don't worry much about it

(extended being anything over 50m in this case)

All zeroing works like this. , there are 2 points at which the bullet crosses through our line of sight (red line)

near zero and far zero

the 50m in tarkov functions as a "near" zero

the 100m and further function as a "far zero"

for super sonic rounds

Most subsonic and shotguns / pistol ammo , all function on the "far zero" method

[indigo wagon]

big difference for subsonic rounds?

[reef spoke]

Yes

a 50m near zero for a sub sonic round would be like a 200m zero for a bullet that has 2 meters of drop at that range

meaning at 120m, the bullet is roughly 2 meters ABOVE your cross hair

[bold kernel]

Quick question this is my first wipe making it to t2 traders since I’ve actually had time to play am I able to build decent weapons now or do I need t3

[indigo wagon]

I need a video on this and I was in the Army lol

[reef spoke]

level 2 is where you can start building fun guns. PK2 unlocks ALOT of good stuff

[reef spoke]

Bullet like arrow. To make go far , need to aim at sun.

but if you trying to shoot bad guy at far. arrow will fly up and then down.

[bold kernel]

What would you say is good woods and streets I’m about to hit those quests

[raw wharf]

do bosses spawn every single time in an offline raid if i enable them ?

[reef spoke]

depends completely on how you like to play

Focus on getting "decent " ammo before modding guns to much , guns can make bad ammo work. but good ammo makes trash guns lethal.

[indigo wagon]

Yes yes yes I'm familiar with how bullets fly I'm just unaware of the subsonic interaction

never fired subsonic rounds

[reef spoke]

So the subsonic thing is literally just a tarkov thing , since they are traveling much slower they do two things diffrently than supers.

1 , the curve is much more " uniform" rather than the parabolic arc , so its a 'flatter" curve

[indigo wagon]

Is there a visual guide for subsonic travel vs super for tarkov I can see?

[reef spoke]

2 , the bullet movings lower has much longer time for gravity to act on it, so extra bulelt drp

[reef spoke]

yeah one sec

[indigo wagon]

Also for 50/100m zeroes up close you end up shooting well below where you actually want to hit, true for tarkov as well?

[reef spoke]

This is the mk18 ( prior to the bullet rework but the "shape" still applies, just not the actual amounts shown)

[indigo wagon]

I think your near Kamchatskaya

[reef spoke]

See the diffrence?

[indigo wagon]

Yeah initial arc is a bit higher?

[reef spoke]

Yes , height over bore is actually one of the things they did really well

[indigo wagon]

left side, but I could be wrong

[reef spoke]

7.62x39 PS ammo

Super sonic

US ammo , sub sonic

[indigo wagon]

Is that from tarkov ballistics?

[reef spoke]

ye

[indigo wagon]

I'll take a look

[brisk knot]

anyone able to give me a hand witha quest?

[hidden basin]

which?

[brisk knot]

get bronze pocket watch

i have teied 30 odd times but keep dying

[indigo wagon]

Man fuck that quest lol

[hidden basin]

yeah sure add me on tarkov

[indigo wagon]

Try a different quest friend

[hidden basin]

name as discord

[brisk knot]

yh

[indigo wagon]

Getting the Machinery key is awful

[hidden basin]

added

[brisk knot]

i got that in pouch

[bold plinth]

It is?

[indigo wagon]

For me it was

[hidden basin]

@brisk knot vc?

[brisk knot]

aye

[indigo wagon]

Dorms was stacked with people doing Setup quest

[bold plinth]

I just wait if I need to go dorms

[indigo wagon]

literally full lobby at dorms like every custom raids

[lyric zephyr]

To anyone thats upgrading the hideout do you guys have a applicatioon or anything to know what to pick. Its hard to remember everything

[indigo wagon]

tarkovtracker.io

[spiral bloom]

https://www.tarkov-helper.com/hideout this one is decent as well, not sure if fully up to date

[gray stratus]

hmm it looked to me like I found the basement in nakatani tower in ground zero

there was a green arrow painted going down the stairs

but that wasnt it

I entered thru the barbed wire from outside, then went to end of corridor and all the way down the stairs?

[lyric zephyr]

TY man

[terse galleon]

i could use some help with woods quests. Jaeger letter and Prapor search mission. I'm bad at woods lol

[bronze inlet]

that is nakatani extract... are you sure that was YOUR extract?

[gray stratus]

we get assigned an extract?

[bronze inlet]

HAHAHAHA YES

[gray stratus]

I thought you just go wereves

[mellow matrix]

yes xD

[gray stratus]

lol

[indigo wagon]

What do you guys think of the RFB?

[bronze inlet]

press O twice in raid to see your extracts

[gray stratus]

how do I see which one is mine

tyy

[bronze inlet]

semi auto sniper

[indigo wagon]

It's nuts imo

even close range

[mellow matrix]

its ugly

but does the job

[bronze inlet]

no lol, not at all

[indigo wagon]

no???

[bronze inlet]

cant have a laser or flashlight, and its point fire is so bad

[indigo wagon]

Hmmm I haven't looked at point fire for any weapon

is there a chart or something?

[mellow matrix]

you know, the gun itself isnt very good, its the fact its cheap and shoots .308 in semi that makes it good

[bronze inlet]

its not really calculable

[mellow matrix]

any other .308 dmr is better imo, maybe except hunter

[bronze inlet]

verp hunter = rfb

[mellow matrix]

hunter has 10rd mags

but better looks

[maiden perch]

Amazing early wipe weapon, even mid wipe it holds.

more so if you got a decent 4x or more scope

[maiden perch]

it does hurt from the flash\light and lazer, however, bullet still comes out if you shoot, jsut requires a bit more skill.

[indigo wagon]

I killed a lvl 37 last night at like 10m with it

felt good

[maiden perch]

yeah, its still a big bullet, honestly 10 metters anything works, the RFB really suffers at the 25-40 meter range, depending on scope, where point fire is harder but zooming in is dangerours

[feral estuary]

is this quest worth doing?

I see that It leads to nothing

and rewards are ass

[bronze inlet]

do it passively

[feral estuary]

soo if i need money i should sell tank battery?

[bronze inlet]

it launches the gun up like 2 feet, its so bad

[maiden perch]

I mean there are 100% better guns

but RFB slaps early, you get an RFB day 2, you get put people down, even with BCP, god help them if you found some m80

[maiden perch]

what level are you?

[feral estuary]

25

[indigo wagon]

Should I be running Ground Zero till lvl 20 since I lose access to it after?

[maiden perch]

yeah that quest is not urgent, it gives access to the Ash 12

[reef spoke]

thats not a bad plan , when you get level 20 the quest in that zone auto complete anyways

[indigo wagon]

I finished the questline in it

[mellow matrix]

rogues are fucking criminal

[reef spoke]

then you're good to move onto other maps if you'd like.

[raw wharf]

this dude legit ?

[indigo wagon]

I just thought of maybe running it to finish Shooter part 4

I hate bolt action kills 😦

[reef spoke]

Nothing really stands out to me.

(i.e it doesn't look weird)

[bronze inlet]

139 hours is kinda low

[raw wharf]

lev 40 within 150 hrs is normal ?

[bronze inlet]

im guessing its a good players 2nd account

[tender gazelle]

interchange feels so dark cant c anything, any tips?

[remote dragon]

Anyone willing to teach a new player?

[indigo wagon]

Seems like smurf acct

[reef spoke]

alts , eod last min etc etc. Not exactly "out there"

[raw wharf]

is there any benefit by using a smurf account ?

[indigo wagon]

but idk all the achievements off image like that

I bought EoD the last day and I have uhhh

[bronze inlet]

i can spare an hour or two

[remote dragon]

Any help would be appreciated

[reef spoke]

the achivements are not really wild though , it seems like alot of the lower end stuff you'd naturally accumulate from getting to level 40

[maiden perch]

this is the most susspect thing

[reef spoke]

^

And even then , its not "that" sus

[maiden perch]

not really.

[reef spoke]

Could he be a cheater? Ye

[maiden perch]

I dont know man, maybe I suck but I have 5700 hours and my stats are only slightly off from him.

it could be his secoundary account, or secound account

but then you have to ask....why did he have two?

[reef spoke]

challenge accounts, testing accounts, couple reasons come to mind

[raw wharf]

maybe bro was cheating in his first account

testing accounts ?

[reef spoke]

Also possible

[maiden perch]

all fair and valid, but also unlikely

given the report is a 'suspect cheat' use and not an 'instantly ban this guy' if I died weirdly to him i may hit it

[raw wharf]

challenge accounts like hardcore mode by pestily ?

[reef spoke]

Testing accounts , i.e using the 2nd player to test something specfic for like , low levels , comparing stuff, using it as a target in offline raid while being able to control the read outs etc etc

[bronze inlet]

oooh 2nd account in case first was cheating, big brain

[maiden perch]

people also play this game oddly, I mean for all we know it could be his main account and he got lucky, or he played on his big brothers for 1000 hours and got his own PC

[reef spoke]

like I've used my 2nd acount to compare movement speeds between skills and such

[maiden perch]

OR...he's a scumbag

[bronze inlet]

i have a 2nd account that i dont use

[maiden perch]

my sister has an account she doesnt use, ive borrowed it for an odd thing or two

may have to borrow it for ground zero escourts soon

[bronze inlet]

lul

[reef spoke]

I spend more in ammo than I do a copy of this game in a month so 2nd accounts not that "weird" lol in terms of money at least

[maiden perch]

for sure.

I wish people didnt cheat, this game would be so much better.

if you cheat and are reading this "please stop, get help"

[reef spoke]

Eh its an epodemic on "gaming" not just tarkov

[maiden perch]

I know, and as gaming is my main hobby it makes me very sad

[reef spoke]

social condition of the selfish mind. "My time is worth more than everyone elses"

smol PP energy for sure.

[maiden perch]

"I can't possibly be making this many mistakes, others are cheating"

maybe the game is just hard and sometimes you just get pwned

[reef spoke]

"everyone else is doing it, im just evening the playing field"

[bronze inlet]

honestly the biggest issue with tarky is the fact that there are literally infinite angles to die from and all it takes is one bullet

[indigo wagon]

I was just talking to a friend about this. How no matter what game we play, if it's remotely competitive there are cheaters

[maiden perch]

you ever look thru the crack of a wall and be like 'oh this is so cheeky'

[indigo wagon]

The only genre exempt is fighting games

[maiden perch]

people die from them cracks daily, that has to feel like black magic

[maiden perch]

fighting games have cheaters too, just less

even chess has cheaters now...with butt power or something

but AI is going to help anti cheat win this war mark my words

[indigo wagon]

I'm not really sure how you'd cheat in something like SF6

[reef spoke]

literally my play style

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7ZmeRqLg_Y

[indigo wagon]

Maybe bot? But then you aren't even playing

[maiden perch]

assited controls with AI

[indigo wagon]

If you play with something that instant DPs whenever they jump at you, you'd achieve the skill ceiling of someone in platinum lol

[maiden perch]

lolol @reef spoke

[reef spoke]

surprise~

[indigo wagon]

you ever consider activating windows

lol

[reef spoke]

its actually a water mark left there just to piss people off

my windows is active.

[indigo wagon]

that's hilarious

[maiden perch]

my play style (this is old ive gotten better lol)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGoLY8unmYQ&t=58s

[icy steeple]

Can you tell if that is a PMC? If so, how can you tell? I didn't shot because I was scav and wasn't sure what that was. I'm pretty noob still and can't really distinguish very well a scav from a PMC. If you can tell what that is, how can you know?

[reef spoke]

apply ammo until the problem is resolved.

if its not resloved, resee step 1

[maiden perch]

hehehe

im not a fan of 545, but that LMG is so fun

[indigo wagon]

clothes look like PMC clothes

[bronze inlet]

yeah thats the cahllenge of scav runs, theres no way to tell from where you are

[humble cave]

no changes.

[indigo wagon]

easiest way to tell

[raw wharf]

also if u stay here in factory and look to the side the door is invisible

[reef spoke]

you're not gonna be able to properly ID a target anymore than 25m out without optics

So its just a coin toss

[indigo wagon]

but it could be a scav with an overcoat and the rainboats

[reef spoke]

^

[indigo wagon]

those dudes fool me constantly

I light them up like everytime

rip scav rep

A good kitted scav with the coat and rainboots like so, so close to PMCs. I think the 10000% way to tell is to look for the pistol holster

[hard cairn]

Does anyone know what I need to adjust in my settings to stop the water from flickering, the water looks all fucky.

[maiden perch]

man I was so good on scav rep this wipe, I got 6.0 15 day into wipe, I see a PMC looting a scav, Bam right thru the head, tons of loot...except, he was a scav, and there was a dead PMC next to him and the dead scav, under cover.

Sometimes greed, or hunger leads to poor choices.

Did get 2 entire kits out of it though

[bronze inlet]

anti aliasing probably. make sure its TAA HIGH

[icy steeple]

would you take the shot considering that there was a lot of gunfight on that spot seconds before?

[maiden perch]

how much do you care about scav rep?

[bronze inlet]

couldve gone either way tho, so no

[hard cairn]

thats what i have it set on

[maiden perch]

if you just want gear\loot

[bronze inlet]

hmm. maybe ssr

[indigo wagon]

There were 3 scavs on woods yesterday, that with the morning light, honest to god looked like a 3 man stack.

[maiden perch]

Fire

[indigo wagon]

I dropped 2 before I heard the scav line 😦

[icy terrace]

Can someone explain to me the scav karma penalties when u have 6+ fence rep

[icy steeple]

I care a lot, actually. I'm doing a lot of scav runs and my rep is all earned by extracting, I'm on 0.31 I think

[maiden perch]

OOF

[reef spoke]

I don't fire unless I get good PID.

( that doesn't mean I wont shoot scavs. I just wanna make sure I kill who ever in the first round)

[maiden perch]

then never shoot first if you care.

[icy steeple]

(Im noob, I don't play pmc)

[icy terrace]

English is not my main language and I cant understand this bruh im so lost
" If you have +6 - +8 karma, penalties are calculated as if you had +6 karma. E.g. if you have +7 karma and kill a player Scav (-0.1), you will end up at +5.9.
If you have over +8 karma, penalties are calculated with an additional penalty of -2. E.g. if you have 10 karma and kill a player Scav (-0.1), you will end up at +7.9. "

[hard cairn]

ehh with it off it still is like shaking/glitching

[icy steeple]

gotcha

[maiden perch]

unless you are very sure.

[maiden perch]

well 1. Play PMC,
2. Scav rep goes up very fast on PMC if you take car extracts

[indigo wagon]

leads to you getting eviserated as a scav by PMCs in ragman drip

[maiden perch]

coop extracting (Shorelione, woods, Lighthouse, innerchange, reserve) also raises it very fast.

[reef spoke]

you should play PMC more, you'll get better.

Remeber its not "your gear" youre just barrowing it

[maiden perch]

This.

All gear is deleted in June-ish anyways

[bronze inlet]

... might just be a glitch, might not be a settings issue

[icy steeple]

yeah car extracts are still a mistery to me. How can you find a scav that is willing to extract with you and not shoot you?

[hard cairn]

it's all the water

[icy terrace]

Car extracts is just money

[bronze inlet]

sounds wack

[icy steeple]

I know... but I don't have friends to play this and I'm scared of playing alone lol

[maiden perch]

Make sure VOIP is on, talk to them, if on PMC , order them to lower there weapon.

Some will betyray you, others will try, its the risk you take - they get the rep too, so there is mutal reward.

[hard cairn]

Yeah it's like the water is vibrating kind of

[icy steeple]

isn't that the one that you have to bring a scav with you?

[indigo wagon]

I do alot of stuff solo

[hard cairn]

co-op

[reef spoke]

I force scavs into situations whre they have to trust me because they're at my mercy.

OR , I sneak up on them ,and then completely give them a way to kill me on purpose to show that I trust them.

[maiden perch]

Car extracts are just money, coops are a scav\pmc combo

There is no Coop on customs

[reef spoke]

Most people won't shoot you in the back if you spare their life and they knowit

some will, but most wont shoot.

[icy steeple]

didn't knew that scavs also get rep.. nice

[reef spoke]

VOIP is super important

[maiden perch]

yeah but some scavs want your kit.

[reef spoke]

"hey are you looking for any quest items?" is a good opening line.

[maiden perch]

make them lower there weeapon, then if they draw it you get first shot hopefully

[maiden perch]

oh thats a good one

[icy steeple]

like I said, I'm very new, I've seen a lot of scavs with better gear than my pmc lol I don't think that's a risk as for now

[reef spoke]

works best if you scare the absolute shit out of someone

[indigo wagon]

Mutual scav rep should be enough of an incentive

but people are dumb

[maiden perch]

@icy steeple this is the hardest game you will play, so its okay to fail, over and over again my man

try to really sit down after a failure and think 'what went wrong what could go better'

that game will beat it into you if it has to

[indigo wagon]

Delivery from the past was so awful solo 🥲
I finished it last night

did the factory part with a buddy but that was easy

[icy steeple]

yeah I know... it's pretty hard, that's true. I gotta try and find someone willing to play with me on pmc for me to do my quests on #pvp-lfg

[reef spoke]

If you've not already, playing offline "hoard" mode is a good way to learn how to deal with AI scavs and you'll get better at moving / shooting an be more confident in killing players

[indigo wagon]

This is my stats btw. I bought EOD the last day and had like 20 hours prior to this wipe

[maiden perch]

show me PMC stats

but not bad

[indigo wagon]

PMC stats are worse

[maiden perch]

everyones are

[icy steeple]

I've done a lot of practice on the maps before going into them, AI scavs are not my problem... on the few pmc runs I did, I always die from god knows where. I guess I have to improve on moving and getting cover, etc

[maiden perch]

mine included, here let me get you guys a picture of my trash stats

[indigo wagon]

I have such a hard time living as a PMC

but also I have been trying to do the PvP quests

[maiden perch]

everyone does, squads help, espescially squads that play together often

[indigo wagon]

I primarily play solo as well

[maiden perch]

PVP quest grind down SR, ive done 80% of my PVP quest its why my staats suck

[maiden perch]

there are advantages and disadvantages to solo

[reef spoke]

Then you're actually further along than most people.

[reef spoke]

Learning how to actually move " in cover" is one of the hardest things to do.

[indigo wagon]

sheesh

[reef spoke]

cute hours

[opal estuary]

proud of my self

[maiden perch]

5800 hours and 50% SR.

Now admitedly, its lower because when I get a PVP quest at this point I get blood lusted

[reef spoke]

HELL YEAH

[maiden perch]

Nicely done

[maiden perch]

I like the game 🙂

[icy steeple]

I've done a few raids on last wipe too, right on the end of it, but it wasn't more than 10

[rocky badge]

Sup ppl

[reef spoke]

Im at 9k with about 3k missing from before they rolled over the hours logged : D

so 12k ish

[opal estuary]

god damn 8TH WIPE?

how many years is that xD

[reef spoke]

7 years for me~

[opal estuary]

old man

ur the light keeper

[maiden perch]

4? 4.5 it may be 9th, honestly im estimiating

[opal estuary]

at this point lol

[indigo wagon]

I wish I played it and give it a bigger chance earlier, but honestly when I tried 2/3 years ago it just was not for me

[reef spoke]

No im the guy who taught zyrachi how to shoot.

[indigo wagon]

It's pretty fun now though

[maiden perch]

i delayed a year because 'it wasent on steam' stupid ass decesion

[reef spoke]

That was such a topic back in the day

[opal estuary]

when did streets come out like last year?

[maiden perch]

Streets waas released 3 wipes ago.

about 1.5 years aago

[reef spoke]

god has it really been that long?

[icy steeple]

which wipe is this one for you?

[maiden perch]

yeah, the first versiion of streets was very different to this one, they did an amazing job expanding it

[indigo wagon]

first

[icy steeple]

DAMN

[indigo wagon]

Why

[austere hound]

Pre-inertia wasn't for me. The learning curve also turned me off at first too. It's really common for people to struggle, give up, and come back a wipe or two later and it starts to click

[icy steeple]

you have 2 KD

this is my first wipe and I have .35

[indigo wagon]

I played a lot of PUBG, Squads, Arma, etc

[maiden perch]

anyways, newbies, feel free to message me for advice, I normally start playing around 3-4 hours from now for about 10 hours or more

[opal estuary]

last wipe i played which was my first wipe was 2 years ago then

[indigo wagon]

The game doesn't feel super foreign to me. The biggest thing is the movement

[maiden perch]

pubg helps a bit because you get use to everything trying to kill you.

[icy steeple]

yeah same, I have over almost 1k on pubg and 4k on csgo lol

[indigo wagon]

should feel relatively at home

[icy steeple]

csgo is very different but it gives you that controll over your aim I guess

[reef spoke]

arma gangggg

arma players , play tarkov diffrently.

[solemn raptor]

hell yeah

[indigo wagon]

I played real scared and like gear fear driven at first but like once you realize a lot of the players are actually super bad and just as scared as you are I feel like you can just stack bodies up

[icy steeple]

hmmm that's a nice thing to hear. In my head, everyone is super cracked at the game and better than me

[solemn raptor]

I wouldn't be so sure about that bud

[indigo wagon]

There's chads, sure, but I don't think the average skill of Tarkov players is very high IMO. At least not compared to the ceiling of LVNDMARK/Pilak etc

[solemn raptor]

landmark and pilak are not the ceiling.

Far from.

@indigo wagon what is your PMC kd? PMC kills / (KIA/MIA)?

[indigo wagon]

They're quite good though, I would say performance near them or above is like the .1% of the playerbase

[solemn raptor]

oh for sure, but.. you can get a lot higher.

[indigo wagon]

This is my first wipe, I am only at 2 K/D

[reef spoke]

Having fought against both of those people I will say they're a lot of fun to play against. It does feel more like a mind game more than anything.

[solemn raptor]

2 PMCs killed per death?

[indigo wagon]

No no

2 K/D incl Scav

but I'm saying that I don't think the overall skill of Tarkovs playerbase is incredibly high is all

[solemn raptor]

nobody really cares about how many scavs you've killed though

[maiden perch]

how do you get the operator tag?

[solemn raptor]

I think you're underestimating them, to a certain degree.

[indigo wagon]

Alright, my bad

[solemn raptor]

it's a tag given by the moderators to people who are active and helpful here on the discord

[reef spoke]

idk @outer parcel how do we hand these things out again? Its been forever my son.

[solemn raptor]

unless you're running around like a maniac getting 10 PMC kills for every time you die of course.

[indigo wagon]

I think the players who really dive deep in mechanics and think about movement, positioning, ammo selection, tactics etc. is a small % compared to the overall playerbase

[wheat tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/279235943595245568/1200152661635366943/image.png?ex=65c52444&is=65b2af44&hm=99810f96fa10ad5e74347723b650c163f4625ccc6853de835cb607b0e4136841& i did 89 damage with an APM in thorax and the dude ju8st survived and killed me, can someone explain pls

[bronze inlet]

def hit an arm

[solemn raptor]

doesn't matter. It matters very little how well you know the mechanics, the movement, the maps.
The one thing that matters, that will set you apart from all the rest, is your mindset.

If you go away from the "kill or be killed" mindset every else have, then you're going to be destroying everyone.

[indigo wagon]

It's the same phenomena with most games that have a high skill ceiling, it always works out to a bell curve. You are not fighting the top end of the bell curve every raid is what I'm getting at.

Keeping this in mind for me helps a lot

[solemn raptor]

I agree. The thing though, is that the skill curve in rock paper siccors isn't very steep.

[reef spoke]

my fav thing is when 2 experinced players "know " they're fighting each other, and you can watch them both shift play styles drastically because of it

[solemn raptor]

most who play starkov will at best have a 50% chance of winning on average. It's rock paper scissors.

[solemn raptor]

underestimating the enemy is a bad curse...

[austere hound]

God bless the lack of sbmm

[solemn raptor]

sbmm?

[austere hound]

Skill based matchmaking

[reef spoke]

quantifying skill in tarkov is about as easy as turning lead into gold.

[solemn raptor]

stay far away from that

[maiden perch]

The difference between a timmy\random\and chads knowing they are fighting eachother is wild and super fun

[solemn raptor]

uh, what do you mean?

[reef spoke]

"obectively correct" measures of skill

and how they compare

[austere hound]

Yeah, but could you imagine having a couple knockout raids and then getting thrown into the meat grinder with people who mostly play at that level? Would be cancer

[solemn raptor]

defining what a skilled player is?

[unkempt egret]

Question for fence quest; do rogues count as scav kills?

[opal estuary]

who here remembers Americas Army? xD

[reef spoke]

Would you say im a skilled player?

[tawdry maple]

can anyone help me do this task on streets called ambulances again i am really struggling with it and i just want to get it done

[maiden perch]

now that's an old game lol

[reef spoke]

(ego bait aside)

[maiden perch]

id say your a cheeky sniper from a video I saw 😛

[opal estuary]

i'm trying to remember which program it ran on, i remember downloading something like steam but that was back in 2003-4 lol

[maiden perch]

it was its own thing

[reef spoke]

im not a half bad sniper if I don't say so myself lol.

[solemn raptor]

I honestly do not know.
You're by far one of the best when it comes to mechanics and super long range sniping.
Overwatch sniping is... what you do after all.
However from what I've seen on your streams there are a lot of things that I question when it comes to all other aspects.

[outer parcel]

dont think we have given it out in a while but the name gets thrown up for consideration and gets discussed around

[maiden perch]

Snipping was and is what I am worse at, 90% hour reduction in sniping, medium and CQB is where I do good (I consider the sword a real upgrade to my Kit, lol, people are bad at ammo managment close range)

[reef spoke]

right now, would you say Desmond is a skilled player? (or other more aggressive player)

[maiden perch]

however, I got SBIH done first time last wipe, month 3, this time I got it done in 2 weeks I was so happy.

So I can do it now.

[alpine shell]

W or L scav raid?

[tawdry maple]

w

[reef spoke]

The point I am getting at Space is that "skill" is just a broad term in tarkov. you wouldn't want to put someone like me in a SBMM system " at my skill level" for something like "CQB"

because Im not great at the game side of CQB.

because I don't have to be.

[indigo wagon]

You should make a lil map of good spots to finish Shooter in Heaven and Shooter part 4

[reef spoke]

honestly I do SBIH passively

[indigo wagon]

I would love to snipe on woods but I have a hard time finding good spots where there's a vantage point over a popular area

[solemn raptor]

I haven't really seen much of Desmond. Assuming is close to landmark in playing style, he's playing that gamble game right.
He's gambling on the fact that his aim, his movement etc. is better than whoever he is up against.
However, the chance of taking a shot to the face is always high. And so you'll be hard pushed to really get anywhere.

So although he is one of the best in terms of labs chad style gameplay, the moment he faces off against someone who values their life, he's toast.
And to me, that's not something that screams skill.
It's ludicrous saying that he isn't skilled, but.. imo, that's exactly the case.
Tarkov is a game that rewards the lone wolves. Your bravery in one vs one combat doesn't matter much when killing the enemy is never a real objective. Never in tarkov do you have the mission "Kill this guy, or die trying". You always have more chances.
Real life military tactics don't translate well because of that. Because you don't need to risk your life.

[maiden perch]

thiis is a great exsample, I don't waant to run into SW in a field with his silenced sr-25 and aa razor, like wise he doesnt want to be stuck in a building with me and my P90 and face shield

[lapis phoenix]

Looking for help for Delivery from the past, EU servers

[maiden perch]

different styles work, and have advantages\disadvanteges, tarkov will force you to meet them head on

[maiden perch]

#pvp-lfg

[solemn raptor]

yeah, exactly.
If a SBMM was implemented, you'd be thrown in with the big wolfs. And you'll kick their ass in long range, and your ass will be kicked in close range. Exactly the same would be the case for me.
IMO the results acquirable from using a sniper playstyle, is miles ahead of what you'll be able to get with a cqb focused playstyle. And so with this sniper style you'll get thrown into the very best lobbies, assuming the game rating is based on normal stat parameters such as SR, KD, KPR etc.

[gray stratus]

is there an easy way to see what a barter item trades for?

[indigo wagon]

Idk being able to point fire and effectively peak/push doorways etc is really important IMO. I wish Factory wasn't such a money sink because I really enjoy playing it now. I finished my pistol PMC kills in 1 run

[solemn raptor]

in my last PMC life, I got.. 30-40 PMC kills (didn't keep good count). How did I do it? Whenever I faced a match I could lose, I ran away.
That simple thing. If that isn't part of your mindset, then I don't think you'll get anywhere at all.

[rancid crow]

can level 20 enter ground zero?

[maiden perch]

yes, it blocks at 21

[reef spoke]

The issue is with a SBMM that measures off of CQB, I'd never fight anyone remotely close to good because im objectively "trash" at gaming CQB. ( because to much IRL method when I actually care about living / dying)

objectively the reason I suck at CQB and close fights in tarkov is because I can't mentally be like "its a game"

[solemn raptor]

yeah.And I think that's okay. I do that too.

[indigo wagon]

I was struggling with this game close as well, my group is all 18 series, ex or related and it's weird that the same tactics you use in real life just don't totally translate here, it's hard to break habit as well with the game feeling pretty realistic

[solemn raptor]

because when do you really need to do CQB? for certain quests. And only for those honestly.
You can just avoid it all together most of the time

[indigo wagon]

I AM struggling with it right now lmfao

[reef spoke]

immersive enough to make you 'feel' like it should work

then dude bunny hops a corner

[indigo wagon]

yes exactly!!!!!!!!

[solemn raptor]

yeah, the thing is IRL you have to worry about so much more. The combat environment in tarkov is just not realistic at all. Not even as a post apocalyptic world.

[indigo wagon]

I want to clear it like some dude is behind the bed posted up but in reality the dude in the game is like half out the window and sprays us while falling lol

[reef spoke]

unironically door frames do it the worst to me.

"dudes muzzle is peaking through the doorway....idiot.." bang bang bang - head level on the wall and door frame-

tower dies becaus dude pushes unharmed.

[maiden perch]

hehe

@reef spoke mechanics question, you may or may not know.

if a player scav shoots a player scav, but it hits a plate and does "zero" damage, is ethier flagged as hostile?

[indigo wagon]

I don't get the bullet pen in this either

[reef spoke]

intresting question, My gut reaction says yes but I don't ""Know""

[maiden perch]

that's where I am

[solemn raptor]

I think it's a yes as well. It's about hitting the hitbox really

[reef spoke]

m855a1 is stopped by drywall, duh

[maiden perch]

only because Im thinking blunt damage was reduced and not removed (to like 0.1 hp)

[reef spoke]

SOST? Sheet wood stops it no problem.

[solemn raptor]

i don't think so. you can survive shots with blacked out thorax

[cosmic yarrow]

what happens if i cant full fill a quest or times runs out?

after accepting it

[maiden perch]

oh interesting, then I think I lean no now.

[solemn raptor]

nothing. it just fails it and you go on to the next mission

[ashen crypt]

you fail

[cosmic yarrow]

so no penalty?

[solemn raptor]

go into a scav raid, find an ai with a plate and have at him I suppose

[solemn raptor]

afaik there are no penalties

[maiden perch]

so if I do no damage you think he wont aggro

[solemn raptor]

I think he will

[maiden perch]

even with zero damage?

because I don't really care about the AI, I want to know if I can bait players lolololol

(dirty I know)

and dangerours, if you miss your scav rep is toast.

[solemn raptor]

you only lose rep for killing them though?

[reef spoke]

AI scav Agro though

if you kill someone who "hurt" you first, they don't agro on you

I think is where hes going with that lol

[maiden perch]

yeaah ill test

i doubt ill use this regardless of test but I am interested.

[solemn raptor]

you're putting too much effort into this...

[maiden perch]

6000 hours of mastery doesnt come easy @solemn raptor

One day youll get there too 😉

[solemn raptor]

hopefully not

I don't count my skill in hours haha

[pure yoke]

if another scav shoots me first but i kill them do i lose scav rep

[maiden perch]

if they hit you, no.

if they miss, and you hit them first yes

as far as we know its 'damage first'

[pure yoke]

okay thank you

[valid crow]

How do I complete cold blooded. I gotta get two head shots with tremors. I made myself dehydrated yet it didn't count. What gives?

[reef spoke]

broken limbs

easiest way to get the tremor condition

[solemn raptor]

I did it dehydrated

[valid crow]

Dehydrated didn't work

[rapid vapor]

audit looks like a fun quest

[unreal bobcat]

does anyone have one of these i can buy or know a way to obbtain them (traders broken so it doesnt retock)

[rustic wraith]

just got my junk case fully filled, what should i sell/keep? im level 12 with level 1 traders.

[tawdry maple]

sell all the purple items to therapist

and all the non found in raid itams

[rustic wraith]

ive heard that but shouldnt i sell the on flea?

[tawdry maple]

purple items sell for the same amount as they do on flea basically

and all the itams without a tick in the top right of them cant sell to flea so just sell them to therapist

[rapid vapor]

The passes only sell for 5-10kish more on flea

[tawdry maple]

ye

[rustic wraith]

but shouldnt i also take into account my hideout?

[rapid vapor]

See what you can upgrade in hideout and offload all the not found in raid things after

[tawdry maple]

i would keep the Christmas orbs just cuz they are cool

[tawdry maple]

not untill u got flea

dont worry about your hideout

[rustic wraith]

i forgot i could buy off flea

[rapid vapor]

Id sell the huge items

[tawdry maple]

my friend made the same mistake he is to busy looking for itams for his hideout and isnt doing his tasks

[tawdry maple]

ye

i got 3 junk boxes at like lvl 19

i would just invest in another one

[reef spoke]

wait yall upgrade your hideouts?

*half kidding, I just can't be bothered to do so )

[rustic wraith]

are purple items not used for tasks/quests?

[tawdry maple]

when u max out your hideout u make so much money

[weak moss]

can i just walk in rouge camp as usec ?

[tawdry maple]

only for kappa and some other tasks a lot later into the game

[reef spoke]

meh money isn't an issue for me but I get it

[tawdry maple]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/escapefromtarkov_gamepedia/images/1/19/QuestItemRequirements.png/revision/latest?cb=202312242

these are all the task itams u needed last wipe

[weak moss]

can i just walk in rouge camp as usec on lighthouse?

[opaque glen]

is it possible to get good recoin on ak 5.45 ?

[slim radish]

Fleece, ripstop, noiceguy pass, dogtags, usb-a, poxeram, majaca, ornaments, beard oil, thermometers, pressure gague

[slim radish]

Yes

[tawdry maple]

this is what i got

[opaque glen]

Can you show me one

[slim radish]

No, just slap a suppressor on one

And a grip and stock

[opaque glen]

Yeah not good enough

[slim radish]

idk what to tell you, suppressors solve anything

[opaque glen]

I aint looking for a budget tbh i dont mind spending 300k plus

[opaque glen]

I always run that but was looking for more^^

[tidal lagoon]

a stock 545 ak has good recoil

[opaque glen]

Whats the recoil on that

[tidal lagoon]

if u want the best possible just change all mods with the lowest recoil mods

[tidal lagoon]

im not talking about a specific gun im talking about 545 aks in general

[opaque glen]

I normally put waffle zenit grip and best stock but i wanted to see if there is more better

[tidal lagoon]

take for example aks-74ub it has good recoil without any modding (comes with a suppressor)

[tidal lagoon]

that basically the best u get for 545 aks

[opaque glen]

Ahhh okay so i was already kind of running the best ak shit

[cosmic yarrow]

do i get a reward injector case on a mission?

[opaque glen]

yea

[cosmic yarrow]

or just the option to barter?

[opaque glen]

from therapist

[cosmic yarrow]

meaning i can sell it ?

[opaque glen]

if you want to or use it

any quest item you get is normalyl found in raid

[opaque glen]

id keep it though thats my advice youll get a quest forgot whats it called but you basically get to give an item to 3 people therapist skier or prapor upon giving it to therapist youll get injector case and some other rewards but if you do give it to therapist you need to d do penalty quests for both prapor and skier i think there is another quest that gives you injector case im not sure which though always type anythign in google and a wiki will come wiki tells you everything about that item if you need it for a quest or it will be given by a quest or any case what so ever

[raw wharf]

is the recoil in tarkov rng ? or is it fixed ?

[opaque glen]

when was it ever rng ?

[raw wharf]

im asking as a new player

[opaque glen]

oh okay

no its fixed

[rapid vapor]

Its pretty fixed, attachment based sorta

[raw wharf]

which gun has the lowest recoil in game

[short elk]

Base STM-9 has 32 vertical, could probably dress it up to go even lower but anything under 40 is basically firing flat as is

[raw wharf]

ok

[outer parcel]

hehehehehe

[tidal lagoon]

its rng as in there is no recoil pattern

[reef spoke]

its still closer to RNG than it is "fixed"

[tidal lagoon]

but the recoil is low to the point where u wont spray and not hit cuz of bloom or some shit

[outer parcel]

there is no bloom

[tidal lagoon]

yea i couldnt find words for it

[outer parcel]

the non visible recoil

[raw wharf]

so its rng

[outer parcel]

i mean the recoil maybe

[raw wharf]

its not like rust (before new rust recoil)

[outer parcel]

not the way the bullets come out of the gun

[tidal lagoon]

its not like rust with spray patterns no

[raw wharf]

yea thats what i was trying to know

[outer parcel]

rust also made ak a beam

[tidal lagoon]

u cant learn the recoil but if u just drag down a lil bit ur bullets will go on target

[outer parcel]

oh gotcha

[raw wharf]

it was a weird s pattern in rust

[tidal lagoon]

i miss rust recoil patterns

[outer parcel]

i remember i played ye old rust, games changed so muc

[tidal lagoon]

yea

they got fucking attack helis now man

[outer parcel]

ye me and friends might get back into it soon

[pseudo locust]

Hey guys I just got Tarkov and I’m level 6, struggling with inventory. What should I be keeping stock of? I feel like I’m hoarding ammo and body armor

[tidal lagoon]

i want to but i cba

[rapid vapor]

1 hour in rust over 4 years

[raw wharf]

the crouching meta made it annoying to play rust

[tidal lagoon]

ruins ur life playing that game

[maiden perch]

fact

[tidal lagoon]

cant logoff

[raw wharf]

yea , literally why i got tarkov lol

[stuck lichen]

Is trading items in game allowed?

[raw wharf]

if you have school/uni then rust is really bad

[tidal lagoon]

yea i mean tarkov ruins ur life too but much less than tarkov

but still a bit

[raw wharf]

like atleast u can just spend 1 hr a day on tarkov

[rapid vapor]

If you like sleeping more than 3 hours at a time then rust isnt your game

[maiden perch]

or a job...almsot got fired being sleep deprived , brought down a production server for the USA Mainland

[raw wharf]

but u cant do that in rust

[outer parcel]

it looks like CS recoil if you had to do it twice

like you have to reset mid spray type shit lmfao

[rapid vapor]

I need to learn streets to do this quest but streets sounds like hell

[nocturne moat]

whats this for

[raw wharf]

rip

but yea rust is messed up

[maiden perch]

2 things

1. moonshine 99% of the time (or selling to others)

2. • drinking at start of the raid for chad powers.

[reef spoke]

Chad power chug

[swift gust]

Super chad powers may I add. Also it can be sold for tons of in game currency

I guess it is water infused with stalker vibes

[reef spoke]

-squints suspiciously - .... In game currency.... Implies external currency is an option! Ban this man for RMT right meow.

[maiden perch]

[weak moss]

can i just walk in rouge camp as usec ?

[swift gust]

😆 isn’t it a survival game? About surviving 😆

[weary kestrel]

You can try

[maiden perch]

I mean yea you could, they are gonna shoot you

that may become a problem

[weak moss]

im trnna do revisions

[maiden perch]

they tend to have lots of guns

go at night time, use night vision, be chad

[swift gust]

And Superwater powers

[maiden perch]

lol, not recommend...yet

[shell ferry]

Which armor is recommended now with the lastest patch ?

[swift gust]

There should be an in game mechanic to bribe rogues and cultists

[maiden perch]

there is now actually.

[swift gust]

The best your budget can afford usually

[maiden perch]

if you can get light keeper happy, he offers that service.

for both cultrist and rouges

[shell ferry]

i just want something that can take bullets withtout dying instantly

[maiden perch]

login and go to 'stash' safest place.

[swift gust]

True. Forgot about that, barely got to briefly interact with Mr. Keeper last wipe so didn’t really remember that.

[maiden perch]

I think it got added this wipe

[short elk]

Kirasa with a lvl4 front plate is the new rat rig

[swift gust]

Then try kirasa or the Korund. But it sounds like you need to work on movement while engaged in a fight. No armor is superior to well timed shooting. Specially against powerful ammo with AP capabilities.

[shell ferry]

Was fighting with a korund on a guy with a random T3, 12 hit but i died