#beginners-assistance
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uhhhhh a little. landmarks help. i still struggle navigating it since the expansion but yeah store names and apartment names help
anyone wanna help me learn some of the game? NA ( DM me ifu wanna help )
can someone dm me and tell me what i need to keep out of this stuff?
or you can do it here
Need some help on get the watch quest
That’s some good loot you’ll probably need it all at some point
all of this loot is really common except the intelu can just sell all purple items to vendor, and the rest to flea
none of this is really needed for quests except cpu fans ig
gas analayzers too if u didnt do it
Gas analyzer
What
most of thee items arent fir
I've sold many items I instantly need 10 of
Don’t need fir for a lot of tasks and hideout tho
hes putting cpus up there
No access to flea yet
for tasks u need fir
theres only a couple where u dont need fir
Yea I’d go thru hideout and see what you need for upgrades and then vendor all the not fir stuff
Fir?
Found in raid
Found in raid, with the check mark on the icon
Yeah, but then the tasks
And when you begin game new extracting is pretty hard.
I'd say 80% of my deaths is from timer running out
Don’t stay the whole match
Try and extract before 10min is left
Most maps you can walk across the entire thing in less than five minutes
Tried, some reason I get turned around so easy
Started trying to memorize streets then woodw
Yea you just need to get reps in to memorize the maps
streets is useless for a new player
Woods is easier to learn once you get the compass
people actually use compassess
I did a lot to learn the maps especially woods
Buds, stop trying to momorize maps... It's only going to make you worse. Star using maps actively every raid, that's the way you improve.
2nd to Last death I completed task just evac at outskirts ran into the mines....
huh
"stop learning maps" "learn maps to learn maps"
There are signs at the edges of mine fields you need to watch around you
Yeah but some extracts have signage warning others
nono,no need to learn anything. Just use maps.
For outskirts look for scav house and the cars on the road
Outskirts ran by the car and saw no timer
gotta be bait right
Now you know lol
Talking to me?
no way ur not baiting
Then got compass after I didn't need it for woods
Baiting?
💪same
Poor souls
This one is easier than woods to learn imo
lol really sucks to be makin it almost to extract with like 2 min left and then get sniped by some pmc lol just extract already
Hey is it worth selling a gp coin?
They're not required for any quests. They are used for a lot of mechanic gun barters, some of which may be useful for gunsmith tasks, other than that though they're fine to sell.
Ok thank you
is the btr on streets 100% spawn rate
how do i do the task where i have to find intel on customs then bring it to factory
u need tarcone directors key
go to big red building on custom. upstair loot the drive. then extract and go to factory to place it
where in factory
check tarkov wiki for quest questions
the metal box with the stairs next to gate 3
how do you tell a pmc from a scav
just check wiki
clothes and gear mostly
as a scav?
press F1 - voice line from scav is unique.
people have said that their shoes are a way to tell
yea as a scav i have -0.50 karma because i didnt know abt killing scavs was bad and im trying to get out the hole lmao
-.5 isnt bad
combat boots vs rain boots or trainers
thats just 2 car extracts
damn fr?
each map gives 0.25 on first use then it goes down half every time
its not exactly half but w/e
ohhh ok
Isn’t it .4 first use?
oh yeah they raised it
First use co-op extracts are 0.25
brother
0.4
oops mb thats car
do people really use cooop
Not uncommon on interchange, never seen it anywhere else though.
I tried. the pmc I actually saved as a scav was doing the signals mission on shoreline he could only make it to road to customs.
just get to -1 and fence will give you a task to get +1
it'll probably be quicker and more fun than grinding out of -0.5
whos a good boss to farm atm
Any idea why i cant turn this in for gunsmith part 2?
Muzzle break, or maybe the bullet in chamber
repair
do the tasks branch in this game? i just finished chemical part 3 and it seems like skiier therapist and prapor all want the same objective now
Anybody here know streets well enough to help me with the beginner streets tasks?
a couple multi-choice tasks
they don't branch
turn it into prapor if you have eod, skier if you don't
ah thats a shame it doesnt branch. so the only difference is who you lose rep with and what reward you get?
Pretty much yea. Prapor has the best reward and you don't need to do skiers rep regain task if you have EOD.
yea i have eod
Yea then just don't do skiers rep regain task
And sell the FIR ammo cases
buy an injectors case
is it even possible to buy the bitcoin trade from mechanic? how many does he refresh with? it sold out instantly for me lol
I'm looking for someone that has 3k+ hours in the game. Someone that's interested in helping a ton of new players.
What for?
??lfg
If you're looking for people to play with, you can find them over in #pvp-lfg.
If you are new to the game, check out #sherpa-info. Happy raiding!
Looking for arena battle buddies? Head over to the arena discord! https://discord.gg/eftarena
I'm not looking for a game. Apologies for the phrasing. I want to make a guide video for new players on map knowledge and thought it would be good to get some help from someone with a lot of time in the game. 🙏
Trying to do some tasks on Reserve and getting absolutely gassed left and right. Any tips on player pathing/navigating the map?
👆
Ngl I thought I was in EFT chat, idk why my discord opened beginners assistance lmao
No worries
Help I'm in the Signal Flare area - with a green flare in my inventory. How do I shoot it? Right click Equip says no space...
Cant find a place for this item
Put it in the rig
And bind it to a key, hopefully pressing the key will activate
That worked!
Hell yeah
if i have a "survive on location" task, can i complete it with a scav?
okay ty
all guns for gunsmith must be at least 60 durability
is the boat on customs n ot spawning for anyone else? that is the third run thru and it is not there.
You talking smugglers boat?
yes
It’s not always available, activates in random raids
weell that blows
how commonly do cards actually spawn in their respective locations on labs
It's rare, I don't think we know % itself but probably it's like 1-5% at best
I would say it's more like 0.05 or smth
hey guys do you know if ratscanner is good to use to know the prices on the game?
im new at the game and i play alone and dont have a clue what is worht it or not and i saw on tarkovtracker they recommend use ratscanner but i just dont know if is okay to use it?
what you guys think about it??
its just for helping to know if something that you found is valuable or not .-.
Ratscanner is a third party program and isn’t allowed to be used, using it will result in a ban ingame
is it worth buying a weapon case fore 6mil
ahh okay its good to know, thank you
thought would be "okay" because doesnt mess with the game files
i dont gave loyalty level 4
It’s still a third party program which makes it not allowed
have*
But good to ask
got it 😄
It's a Grey zone. While apparently no one has been banned for using it, it is still a third party program so it does violate the terms of service.
Use at your own risk.
nah im good, dont want to be banned on my Eod acc 😅
and if it is as third program is not fair also
I've looked into it but never used it, but the program seems to be one of those things that are basically impossible to detect without violating a million and one privacy laws. Still, using it is against ToS, and imo just look shit up on the flea and learn the prices, it's easier
I used it once, find it not that intuitive, and also tank my fps for some reason (i went from max fpx to almost half fps normally)
plus part of tarkov fun is knowing what the item price is, and how it fluctuate day to day
is it normal to get murdered by uberchad snipers on woods? someone told me this was a good beginner map
im not seeing it
was it at night?
day time
Or you walked out of the map
that too
im just trying to do this stupid task where i have to go to the usec camp and the convoy done mainly
i was in sight of the extract
fml
no it was an actual dude cause i pulled up his profile after
Oh okay
was outskirts
Yeah then it's probably someone trying to do one of the tarkov shooters
i stopped at that big rock and was kinda watching for movement
that may have been a bad place to stop
need help completing tasks anyone can help out pls?
im new but dont have gunsmith and went on wiki and seen ig i have to do the ground z one first??
once i do ground z task for mechanic then ig i will be able to do gunsmith
Yeah exactly
right now everyone is camping there
You get gunsmith 1 and introduction after completing the ground zero task
every load in
It was even worse day one of wipe
But yeah, it's a pain
i have gunsmith part 1 but im not sure if i can do it with level 1 traders and no flea market
unless i just find stuff in raid for the gun
so do i buy specific gear??
All you need is a sprut from a scav
sprut??
And then just buy the rest off Jaeger and shit
is that pretty common?
i dont have jaeger
Spawns on shotgun scavs all the time
i think u need the weapon rack for that
but i want to beat ground z task how would i do that??
which task
You need Jaeger for the handguard, but that also spawns on shotgun scavs relatively often. Just take one of those guns out and you'll be good
the sim0ple way? or is there no easy way?
oh u saying play as scav to get their shotgun to take in ground z?? im lost
Nono I was talking about gunsmith 1
oh ik how to beat gunsmioth 1
this ground z is new to me
and everyone looks decked out
For the GZ task, just go at night and it might be worth just either rushing it immediately or going very late
i think ive gotten spoiled playing this with a squad, cause playing solo is scary af to me lol
Yup
ya all i do is solo have no more anxiety just frustriation with gear diff
That's how it do be
maybe last question for everyone do u think low gear can dominate high gear?
i would team up with you but i also have no idea what im doing
i would like to make friends and learn together tbh lol
Yes ofc
Just gotta go for the head
what if they got the best helmet??
Or gobble them toes with a high fire rate (legs cannot be armored)
does gun or bullet matter or no still doesnt matter?
Bullet matters more than the gun
okay
try using the VPO-136 from skier if you havent already ive had the most luck with that
cause it actually has some stopping power
okay
You start with a decent reserve of 5.45ps and 9mm pst
Those are what I used up early wipe
Decent bullets
545ps its called??
Or if you're usec, you get 5.56, idk what bullet exactly
oh okay ya im usec
Well the caliber is 5.45, and the bullet is PS yeah
oh okay
Well, "decent". You won't kill anyone with even class 3 armor in less than 5 shots unless you hit them in the head
All are good, pp-19 is available early
Slap a kobra sight on there from prapor and you're golden
how many bullets roughly does it take for high shot kills?
Depends on armor
headshot kills**
Just one
Assuming no faceshield
with face shield??
But if someone takes a face shield to GZ they're not okay in the head
is it stupid to just go into woods naked if im just trying to get this task done?
I mean pst has 20 pen so anything that's class 2 or below it basically ignores
Unless you want to get rushed by scavs, always take a gun and some kind of rig/backpack/armor
There's a hidden game mechanic called "tagged and cursed"
you have to have all 4?
okay so i bring pistol and cheap rig is that good?
!wiki tagged and cursed
Tagged and Cursed is a hidden player state in Escape from Tarkov.
It automatically applies to PMCs that don't have at least a firearm and an armor vest or a chest rig or a backpack equipped upon entering a raid.
Yeah
ty
not gonna stop running this time, lol
i feel like a lamb running through a den of lions on this map lmao
trade those paids for some salewas imo
I did it as a scav
Termites dfuel propane kekw tape cpu fans bloodletting syringe are some I'll keep to sell to flea
The rounds I got as a scav
Not 200
Supposed to be in one raid
Tbh how much liquid funds do you have?
Ohhhh
Since I say just wait until flea
I feel that
If you need to you can use therapist so it will stay longer
However more expensive
Yeah I think she will keep your stuff longer than prapor's 3 days
Hello
Do you have gunsmith part 1 done?
Uh I say if you have the stash space why not since you don't have flea
For me I'll sell them since it's to much of a hassle doing all that
I wouldn't waste time with weird barters
Can you buy 45 fmj?
Nvm u cant
You can mabye run lasermatch and hit flesh but keep in mind it's really low pen
Not bad lvl build you can slap a foregrip if desired but imo would just run whatever you have first
Use all the guns you have
Only problem I have with that it is PRS 5x45
But at lvl 11 u good
I can't login into launcher
Yeah if you can find the boxes of ps or BP that can work too
If i remember it should be
Yes
Way higher pen
Just less dam
Was it 5.45 or 7.62
Oh 5.45
I say for the rounds in raid you should be looking for is
5 56 m885 m856 a1's
7.62 ps and hight
So BP and pp
308 anything that starts with letter m
They should spawn where ever ammo can spawn
It's a chance thing
need some help learning woods. anyone up? NA
I would but I eepy mabye some day
A good weird place to find meta ammo is a shack in woods that has barbed wire by it
I got some nice ammo and attachments there
which ammo is better tgs or ps?
https://www.eft-ammo.com/ check this page, it is a good source
ok thank u
Run CMD from start menu as adminstrator and type "SFC /scannow", let that finish, then do an integrity check in the tarkov launcher
Is there any option to regain scav karma faster that u lost due to penalties? I accidentally killed a scav in a shootout that was friendly as it was just chaotic and honestly, getting hit with -1.4 karma for a mistake hits very heavy. dropped below 6 karma again and was really close to 8 
so anytime you get above 6, any penalty will reset you to exactly 5.9
and is there any way to regain that karma? like, does fence come at u with a quest "u a bad mofugga, but we can be good again"
or is it just normal fence quests and scav extracts
nothing special no, just the cars and coops
wut does tht mean exactly?
well took every car a gazillion times already, guess 8 scav karma this wipe is impossible for me then
holy fck that is tilting
theres no reason for it tho, 6 is the highest that matters
being cool with bosses woulda been lit tho
you only need 6 for that
huh kk
6.01 to be precise cause sometimes it's bugging at 6.0
Cause it's 5.99999999
but 7 and 8 also still give bonus on scav timer right
Nope
what do 7 and 8 do then even
6 is the max karma profits
Nothing
huh
The best way is getting 6.0 kill boss repeat
good thing that shit is explained somewhere ingame
what IS explained in game?
You really expect tarkov gonna explain smth? Even dark souls explains more lol
I mean they mostly got good item descriptions and stuff
pfft
how do i do an inegrity check in the launcher?
hey lads doing fishing gear for the first time and besides some assistance I need to know if its true that you can disassemble SV 98 and does durability matter?
why do you want to dissassemble? and durability shouldnt be an issue as its not listed as a requirement but its also not expensive to repair guns
well just checking if its true cuz it says on the wiki that you can strip it for parts
its like 2000 roubles in parts, its not important
yea I know but I still wanted to check
nah too small to matter
What does "use only available parts" in the preset editor actually do? It still shows mods that I haven't unlocked from the traders yet and I don't have flea
Items that you have in your stash
All the items that fit that weapon in your stash that aren’t already on other guns
Oh, it shows the parts you have AND parts that you have that have been installed on some guns, which is different from "modding" which only shows the parts you have
That would be "modding"
Oh mb thought you were talking about modding
Have they fixed the bug where buying certain ammo takes all your money away?
no lol
Is there any clarification on which kinds it relates to atleast?
lasermatch fmj
I’ve heard lasermatch fmj and m856 from PK
what's the best map for raw roubles?
if you have flea market, reserve has the most guns parts and theres tons of gunsmith specific gun parts that easily cost 200k+ each. but lighthouse and streets have the most valuable items like statues and bitcoins
shoreline has ledx and keycard spawns
if youer not that good at pvp and cqb, woods has a healthy amount of valuable spawns that doesnt require being so close to people
do cards actually spawn on shoreline?
i think labs itself is the only higher spawn chance
how do I handle rogues as a bear
range usually
hey, can someone share how you can yoink the item case barter for OScopes + Meds, when Therapist refreshes it's immediately out of stock and I can't figure out how people are so fast
is there a buyback option for a trader if you accidentally put int he wrong amount? i just accidentally bought 51 esmarchs.....
literally like half my money
fml
check the flea market page, some items have their own timer
You will have to sell them back to TheRapist. It's not even that much money anyway
i mean its a lot for me im poor af lol
Just keep them and use them
need help with reserve
I literally bought like 20 Cat tourniquets on day one
And just used them up over time
You can view the value of your next scav in the character overview tab. Just scav 2 or 3 times and you will make that back
craft things with them, like IFAKs
Anybody know why I'm getting this message?
check for updates, then integrity check
I did than this started popping up
do this then restart your pc
Ok thanks
Wait how do you do that?
Omg actual decent pc advice? No way
Also just try restarting pc and launcher
can someone till where I am on the map if im at the gym on streets?
For us the newbies, nice maps to loot as scav and try to earn some money?
what does this actually mean in the weapon modding screen? does it just mean its sold by traders?
means you dont have it
very hard to tell what you've just zoomed in on, but I'm guessing that's just the icon for a weapon mod
its in the bottom right of a lot of weapon mods in the weapon modding screen
reserve is free weapons, woods is free food and valuables, lighthouse is valuables and death, streets is valuables and chaos
need screenshots
ha... yeah, so it does indeed mean that you don't have that item.
However, that's not the weapon modding screen, that's the edit preset screen.
did they move the message for introduction? went to the spot under the lookout post and dont see it. got to the spot twice and it was not there both times.
Overview > Scav > Total value of items in stash
Where can I get a CMMG ripstock stock? I know skier 3 sells it, but I remember there was a barter, or a gun that comes with it by default
its in the snow
why do you want it????
is it just hard to see? i was spamming the key to pick it up and trying to see the dot that shows up when you are hovering near an item
1: youre sure you have the quest ACCEPTed? 2: youre sure you were looking at the right side of the hut? 3: you were crouching so you were close to the ground?
yeah i got the quest. i got the subtask completed when i got near. i guess ill just have to go do another run and see if i can get it.
if you get there and cant see it. take a screenshot of the hut and ill show you
it's in the snow.
Basically that white letter, but in white snow is 
Because I want it?
but its BAD
I need it for a gunsmith quest
skier 3
this dude is 100% cheating right ?
yes
Good morning commrades
It’s just hard to see, I almost missed it when I went to do it, and spent far too long running around the little shed thing. It helped when I crouched into the spot to pick it up though
White letter on cocaine white snow not a great idea
it's locked behind quest + please ss
also pretty sure its barter not buy
Idc what it is what quest is it locked behind
is this just not a thing
im pretty sure not
some scopes are locked (and they are bugged)
what i mean is that they are shown as locked behind quest but they are not really cause not for sale
It's the best scope in the game for dmr
tango better
maybe it's locked behind smth i didint do but its not on wiki either so i doubt it
I'll try it out
oh tango wait
with and without nvg
razer is better slightly
The new scope sits too far forwards, ill always be a vudu enjoyer
imo it's the best scope its just preferences
Tango/Razor>Vudu> Bender 1-8 > everything else > tac30 burris
Put elcan inbetween tango and tac and its pretty much mine too
meant s&b not burris lol
he edited burris i saw it
lmao
elcan is ewww
I like elcan when I'm trying to be budget, better than the valday imo
Its nice for 4x instead of 6x and preforms better than tac
it's 60k... i prefer to put smth 20k more expensive and have nice sight
Isnt it like 300 dollars from trader
Yeah just need to get it before it sells out
but you can get vudu for 60k either way
true
Im only lvl 37 so not yet
i see
well tbh scopes are all preference unless we talk about super shitty ones like ncstar or smth
Still havent done shooter 3 and setup
or that fixed x14 scope you have to kill shturman with
almost there ... i think i will buy rest tbh...
I don't care what anyone says if you use the bravo or the hamr you're insane
thats i must agree with
but i gave the worst sight as example
i use it on toz tho lmao
it's funny
that's pretty sick
imagine seeing smth like this

if you prefer smth for longer range this is your go to gun (x20 scope)
i have smth better wait
this is my go to sks
looks kinda sick ngl
it has a certain... jene ce quois
does stuff you craft in your hideout go away if you dont pick it up? or it stays until you pick it up
stays
u can also run smth like this
thats not even bad
ik
Hello folks. Any guidance for mouse sensitivity?
find the tarkov exe in your files, open properties, compatibility tab, change high dpi settings, and check override
still love this build
burris and rmr dont talk to me
tac30 is superior, youre just a meta slave
im not meta slave just bc i hate it
let me guess, you use tango vudu and razor
It’s decent not the best tho
its the best, nothings better
i dont need to see peoples nose hairs to land headshots
Personal preference
no, not at all, 6x and 8x is useless
pretty sure any
Bettt
Then don’t use them yk
Thanks
i dont lol
Don't bother arguing with sak
he'll keep it up forever
cant lose if youre not wrong
see you cant argue using objectivity, only blaming the person
I’m not thank you for agreeing
Why not ? Please elaborate
I warned you
No need to
im criticizing your argument methodology. you failed to attack my argument, and attacked the person. refered to as "ad hominem", being a failure to be able to win an argument without attacking the opposition
i said an objective statement about the viability of an item, and you returned saying I was the issue
I criticized you because you said you don’t use them and I don’t think you as a person can call something “useless” if you don’t even use them or trained in using them and getting better at using them
I just think you need more experience to back up your claim that’s all I’m not attacking you as a person
You never fail to amaze me with the cringiest imitation of a 10th grader who just took his first debate class
Lmao
there is no "getting better with them" as they are inefficient at their designed purpose. the issue is with the magnification being too far for practical use, where as 3 and 4x are much better suited for the average confrontation
Done. Can you explain how will this enhance my sensitivity? And what about other mouse settings in windows/ in game?
They are not inefficient at their intended purpose as they are not made for you average confrontation they are made for a confrontation on long range
theres no comparison, the tac30 has incredibly better sight picture, blatantly obvious crosshair, and far more useful magnification
id take a trihawk over a tango
singularly for the sight picture
you could check if you have Enhanced Pointer Precision turned on aswell
As it is also made for shorter ranges 👍 you can’t compare a tac30 to an 8 times scope as they are intended for different purposes
exactly, however even short barrel rifles are often used with these scopes, which is NOT how they should be
That has nothing to do with our conversation tho
this sucks
loses argument, moves goalposts
textbook so far
has anyone from EU tried to play on NA or vice versa? Is it doable latency wise?
It was on but according to some guides I turned it off. Do you want me to turn in on instead?
IT DOES! you attacked ME as a person, while i attacked the CONCEPT of scope versatility and viability.
If you're EU you can play on NAE
no, off
And you literally proved yourself wrong by agreeing with my argument 🤨
have you tried it? what's the average ping +/-?
What y’all arguing about
usually like 100-120
not terrible
I’m bored and I want in
goalpost was set at "6x and 8x are impractical" idk what goalpost you thought existed
not once have i agreed with you
seems playable, thanks
6x and 8x scopes are impractical for 80% of engagements in tarkov
Sak is trying to say that 6x and 8x scopes are "objectively" worse than the burris 4x
I said that you as a person can’t be making those kind of claims without have the experience to back your claims up and you can’t be a long range scope in comparison to a short range one as they are intended for 2 different purposes. So I’m not attacking you as a person you just lack the experience to back up your claim 🙂
This kinda depends on the map and weapon/ what you’re trying to do. But yeah most of the time they won’t be useful as the enemy will be close enough for a shorter scope
How about mouse sensitivity in game should I leave at default?
You said they were useless you don’t use them therefore you can’t back your statement up and you can’t compare them to the tac30!
once again, youre narrowing it to my experience as if my opinion wasnt formed thru trial and error. ive tried every scope in the game, barring thermals, and my taste sits with tac30 BECUASE it was more useful and easier to use based on the vast majority of situations i find myself in. i criticize the use of other scopes bc i see players using them in situations that they arent practical such as "Insane Highlight" and EOD WTF on youtube, aswell as my own friends who are also ignorant to the fact.
It’s a 4 times scope which is far from an 8 times one and even so it’s a 1-4 times adjustable scope made for close to medium range engagements not long range
i prefered 0.8
The obvious answer is that none of the top scopes can be objectively ranked. There is clear subjective preference and the context of the situation to determine which is best.
agreed, however most maps contribute to mid range conflict, not long range
Oh 100 percent
Yes I have 0.8 sensitivity and 0.5 aiming
NO, maps are on average mid ranged, which is what tac30 and trihawk are DESIGNED for, unlike vudu,razer,tango which are LONG range
Plenty of people prefer 6x and 8x for midrange engagments
Which comes back to my first message it’s your own personal preference to which you disagreed with
thats how i have mine 👍
I use tac30 mainly but if I’m doing rouges as a bear on lighthouse I’ll go with a tango usually
🙏🙏🙏
ITS NOT, the objective fact that maps are mid range oriented is blatantly siding with my argument
I warned you
perfectly viable as youre landing shots well over 200 meters
I only wish the tac30 reticle wasn’t so big and chunky
What about woods then ? Or shoreline
You’re saying they are useless there ?
in situations like the rogue camp (which are few and far between) sniper scopes are BETTER than tac30 for increased precision
up on sniper rock? vudu razer tango are great. moving thru the trees? TERRIBLE
shoreline has almsot ZERO fields over 200 meters making tac30 the winner
The other side of this conversation is that a lot of people prefer the 1x version of the vudu,tango, etc compared to the 1x version of the burris
I hate the burris reticle, and the 4x zoom doesn't make up for it
Therefore the vudu, tango, vortex are better
In any case you shouldn’t bring a 8x to a map it’s not intended for but you can’t just call them bad bc the average map has a mediocre design for longer ranges as you shouldn’t use a 8 times on your average map you should use it on a longer range map
jp mount with deltapoint on top
I hate top or canted sights
As do many people
so you mean... dont use long range scopes on mid range maps...
in all reality, due to aim punch and recoil loss, if theyre close enough for 1x, theyre close enough for point fire
Bring a sidearm like many people do when they bring a sniper
Different scopes are better at different things, use what you wanna use in whatever situation. That’s how it goes in my mind
burris is trash, the reticle is objectively the most bulky and obstructive
that is exactly correct!
bulky yes, obstructive no
tac30 also sucks with night vision
@bronze inlet Are they useless then ?
obstructive would mean its taking a significant part of your view, which is factually false
what?
100%
compared to any other optic in the catagory, it's objectivly the worst
sorry
back up the claim
You said they were useless are they useless then ?
Plenty of videos doing comparisons, burris has most pixels obstructed via the reticle
therfore objectively the worst lol
as previously stated, 80% of situations render them useless, so yes
Damn y’all going after pixel count now?
You don’t think that depends on your play style ?
is it enough to interfere with performance?
Obstructed vision is obstructed vision, yes ofc it interferes lmao
stop talking about the individual and speak objectively
Did they change revision reserve?
No
it doesnt as its smaller than the average width of a target making it practical above the bulky cross hair
not that ive noticed
What?
How is this conversation not about the individual? After all it is you as an individual that stated they were useless
its not obstructive enough to completely invalidate a target from your view, therefore the obstruction is not detrimental to the purpose
How do I inspect the second bmp-2 because I’ve ran back and forth between 1-2 still can’t complete the task
It's a bigger, more bulky reticle. More potential to obstruct your vision. Objectively trash optic.
sorry
QED
you can look up what ad hominem is all youd like, i cant express more how thats not a viable way to win an argument
as i stated there IS no potential to obstruct as the size of the reticle is SMALLER than potential targets
I already won you don’t seem to realize it tho
I. Warned. You.
it has taken me 20+ raids to see my first measuring tape, how unlucky must I be
You lost the moment you engaged in this idiotic argument.
I can finally build a god damn door
you have yet to state one objective opinion without attacking the character. by no definition have you won anything but a dunce hat
I don’t need any fancy “ad hominem” to win an argument
correct, you need a LACK of ad hominem
10th grade debate class...
as if rommel could even pass that
Who needs zoom anyway
He did way better than you
there is a LOT of evidence to support that sight not only being innaccurate but also more expensive than similarly effective sights
I was joking :(
explain one debate tactic he used that wasnt ad hominem or subjective
LMAO you got me
At least he didn't mischaracterize every argument into some clumsy fallacy
You are honestly the worst debater I've ever seen.
imagine going up to Karl Marx and saying "YOU dont have work experience OR economic experience so your manifesto is WORTHLESS" as if communism isnt an actual socio economic method that is world reknowned in either positive or negative light
I’m attacking your statement and your lack of knowledge I don’t need a step by step plan to win this argument I don’t need to refer to what everybody else says or thinks as it’s not like you have either it is your statement therefore I’m attacking you but you seem to be walking in circles and having a lack of understanding. You already agreed to my points and statements therefor you proved your self wrong so you are just mumbling at this point mate
He will argue until the end of time. Please, for the love of god, walk away
We all know you're right
Just let him waffle on
Y’all can’t just leave it at, use whatever scope you want?
Nah it’s pretty entertaining ngl
theres no proof of a lack of knowledge, i actually went and provided EVIDENCE that the sight picture of a tac30 is better than the tango, which is 1 to 0 as far as objective evidence goes
It’s not everyday I get entertained like this man
itll always end that way, but there is objective truth to which is better
I guess but they all have their downsides aswell
i have showcased why and provided context as to what that pertains to in this argument, unlike either of my opponents
Brother said opponents 💀
Well our argument wasn’t about the tac30 being better than the tango was it now ? I just said 6 times scopes and 8 times scopes weren’t useless as that was what our argument was about and you already agreed with me that they weren’t so therefore again you are talking rubbish
wrong, try again
If they are useful 20% of the time then they aren’t useless 🤦♂️
yknow theres been political debates about the efiicacy of PENNIES and whether they should continue to be minted or not
bc theyre ALMOST worthless
pennies have a negative value, not the same, try again
And now you proved you self wrong
they obvioulsy are still minted as its the staus quo, just like 8x scopes, however in reality, the efficacy of pennies is actually a BURDEN on the economic system as a whole
8x scopes are a burden
Whattt you were wrong damn
plz delete them BSG
WHERE
Second pinged message
Well here you say they aren’t yk :))
I SAID THEYRE USELESS, WHAT
Here you say they are useless 80% of the time
which i followed by saying YES, THEYRE USELESS
Which means they are useful 20% of them time. What does that make them? Not useless
Just say GG and agree you were wrong :))
hence to why i have used the words inefficient, impractical, and unsuitable as substitutes
It’s not that deep
Have you guys ever seen two Chihuahuas yapping at each other?
That's what I'm getting here
😂😂😂
That’s kinda what I was imagining
the overarching claim being USELESS is exaggeration, which in titles of works is commonplace and even emeplified
Wait what do you two think about armor right now
FIGHT
interesting
So now you don’t mean it ?
if you know what the word exageration means, you would know
Man I really don’t care at this point keep the debate class up you will get there some day 🫡💪💪🤝🏻
maybe i should up my vocabulary? my use of the phrase useless was Anecdotal
did you capitalize the big scary new word for a reason
Bro is the villain in an anime HOLY
thank you so much
Got me quaking
evidenced by my use of literal phrases like impractical, unsuitable, and inefficient
Pls no 🥶🥶
literal phrases?
woah buddy
Calm down there bud don’t use too much brain power
My timbers are shivering 🥶 from this really advanced statement
when mockery becomes the method of debate, the loser has already been decided
He couldn’t stand himself there
bc i was wrong and knew it, it was socrates
i can aknowledge when im proven wrong, it just so happened, i proved myself wrong
And that’s np yk it’s not like you can win all your arguments nobody can
Just like most maps aren't suited for long range, many places are not suited for formal debate
If you like it, join a club or a team. Here, it comes across as socially awkward to a diagnosable degree.
also you do it very poorly, so work on that
diagnosable degree 😂
youre missing what i said prior
hey is this key worth keeping, or just sell it at flea for 500k?
Yup
i do like interchange, but is it good lootwise
its an interchange key with a quest attached and multiple spawns for high value items. up to you based on questing and looting
It's worth to run if you go to interchange often
Not worth to run interchange just for it
I don’t think so and honestly I really don’t care right now ngl
alright, appreciate it guys, thanks!
cheers!
Np
you engaged in the argument, that is literally forfeit
How will he ever recover from forfeiting a debate about scopes
What is this then ?
once again, youre ignoring the statement prior
Idk man I think I need some meds and some good chakra healing
I’ll pray for you
Thank you 😭🙏🙏🤞
if i actually need to explain that the statement he is glamorizing is out of context, im clearly speaking to a halfwit
No way he said halfwit
I'm a quarterwit
just based on peer evidence, i dont back down from arguments, why would you think im exiting this one?
I wasn't talking to you
correct, you were talking about me
What
Damn
L
bingo, youre evidence of my ruthlessness
Hey guys idk what the debate is about but snoreline best map 10/10 kekw
So true honestly
not if youre using an 8x scope
Or utter blindness to social cues, but whatever
You’re right, you need an x20
HE SAID BINGO, HE CANT BE REAL
Chop chop
pls display one missed cue
chefs kiss
this dude quite literally speaks like this emoji 🤓
“Bingo, my evidence has been proven correct” 🤓
Yk that’s offensive why not call me a wit why the half part ? Yk what if I actually was short yk
who is in the wrong, the person using evidence and standard debate tactics, or the ones involved in debate criticizing the use of debate tactics?
Ok Ben Shapiro lol
hence the word wit, being of the mind and not stature
You can chill you aren’t getting paid for this
shame
He wouldn’t get any money anyway because he was wrong 😂🪦🙏
If only you were using those tactics correctly, or in the right context...
display one shred of evidence supporting that statement
What’s he wrong about guys?
All this guy yaps about is evidence
i asked once already, please show me one
woah, evidence isnt useful in debates?
6-8 times scopes being useless
are you high? 😭
Ohhh
literal PROOF of an argument is no longer valid lol
Dude, this isn’t a debate it’s an argument about a game calm down there buster

Only when you have no idea what constitutes proof...
but sure
Agreed
Well I can kind of see his point. Many engagements occur at a comfortable 5-150 meter range
a king doesnt step down to speak to peasants
But at the same time, it depends on your play style and your setup
NAHHHH
holy shit
Pardon me
HE DID NOT
If you’re carrying an mp7 or something, a smaller scope don’t really matter on a sniper or LR
the average player is using short barreled rifles, meaning long engagement is unsuitable
This guy can’t be real
Semi auto is still extremely viable especially with 5.56
a king doesnt step down to speak to peasants
You have been in here for half a year you probably played the game for half a year your are invalid
with high velocity rounds
If your bulley velocity is anywhere from 700 to 1100 you’re fine
once again YOU missed the meaning of that statement
a king doesnt step down to speak to peasants
What even is this topic about 
a king doesnt step down to speak to peasants
High velocity guns are the only things you’d put a long scope on tho
6-8 time scopes
Who is putting a 6x on an mp5?
Hopefully no one
@bronze inlet
yet plenty of players will put 6x scopes on P90s and short barreled AK74s
Damn
a king doesnt step down to speak to peasants
700 m/s rounds on a p90
Same as a 7.62 ak
consider you dont understand the context or purpose of that statement
Where ? Where are they ? In china servers? No offense just don’t play them
a king doesnt step down to speak to peasants
consider the MOA
Center mass ss190 doesn’t care about moa lol
Look, neither of you are wrong or right

and now, the context proving your childish behavior in vein
a king doesnt step down to speak to peasants
You literally called yourself a king and everyone else peasants. Yet I'm childish?
I think a topic like this is extremely situational. In no world is 6x “useless” or a must have
My apologies my king 😂
metaphors have existed long before you or i
please king, don't bully me
I'm just a lowly peasant
Well you are a joke and that isn’t a metaphor or any kind of sarcasm
no surprise you arent able to conjure anything above babble
now extrapolate
That’s too big of a word hold on there king
My king please speak down to me
Let me just look that one up in the dictionary Il brb
I'm just a peasant, how would I do that
We’re too feeble minded to understand that word sire
tell me that which avoids my hubris
Everytime I see Sak in an argument he manages to turn the whole discord chat against him.
He's just that shit.
I’m so sorry emperor Sak I’ve failed you your highness please forgive my ignorance 😩🙏
its very fun
@bronze inlet I'm sorry my king please forgive me of all I've done
Your highness I apologise for any inconvenience that this has caused you
Maybe take that as one of those missed cues you were asking about earlier...
Can I use someone’s 314 key?? They can have the loot I just have a quest
Maybe the king will listen to your request
Is he a benevolent king?
my lack of empathy towards lesser wits mayhaps causes a detriment to my following. alas, i need not help from the likes of those who know everything about nothing
Us lowly peasants wouldn’t even possess the key
Ask king sak his highness and maybe he shall grant you the opportunity to lend his holy key
Are you pulling this stuff out of a child's story book? 
The kings is scaring me with his knowledge
What was it that made socrates the wisest man in Greece?
Maybe take a lesson from the oracle
Nah he just quoting old men at this point
what kinda einstein babies did you grow up with
What
Einstein wasn't alive back at the time you was ruling. 
you was ruling 😂 we wuz kangz and shi
like this?
You should change your name to TheKingSak
👑
Pls stop encouraging it
I’m sorry :(
You corrected yourself. Not the same as admitting to ignorance.
Let’s have a crowning ceremony for our excellency
where do i rebind the control to change the color of my scope reticle?
Settings
I think
i cant find it in there do you know what its called?
This statement is the most vain thing I've ever read. You have a serious superiority issue.
HAHAHAHAHA
that is such a strange thing to change
same thing as change scope magnification
same button
i unbinded it on accident and i want it back
bro i pulled language from before the birth of christ for that, you think it was serious
maybe catch up on social cues
Where are you from ?
Don't think anything there was from before the birth of christ
Kings use the word bro?

a king doesnt step down to speak to peasants
do you know why it doesnt let me change it while ads'd anymore?
just revert all settings and change them again
yah but then i have to redo my graphic stuff no?
jersey LOL
Oh you know what never mind I pity you
Your behavior makes sense
I thought you were a king
once again, exageration going straight over your head
the king of jersey lmao
no just controls
b b b bird bird bird
😐
Have you gone mad my liege ?
He's in jersey, of course he's gone mad
We should stop bullying him tbh
I feel bad
facts, i literally live in a swamp
do yall not know the bird is the word?
Shrek king confirmed ?
Being cringe on discord is a healthy outlet considering what that place will do to you
Yes we know it, but it hasn’t been funny for a while now
Yeah true
tell me what this mean
That you know the word lmao?
He's asking why a king would say "lmao"
gimme one appropriate response to that
Not this
🤣
@bronze inlet How old are you?
I'm not your social coach
there isnt one, nice scapegoat
2
Are you going to be my 7ft king 👉👈
You could have been clever and said it was a royal acronym like "Leave me at once"
But hey I'm just spitballin
Can you put a 1 in front of that rq ?🤞🤞
lugubriously, im only 6'2
Lugu what
pitiful heathens... cant even read
a king doesnt step down to speak to peasants
a king doesnt step down to speak to peasants
a king doesnt step down to speak to peasants

banished for 30 fortnights
i found a secure flash drive in raid put it in my pouch now i cant turn it in or a quest why cant i turn it in
you guys wanna play fortnite?
did you die with it
You died ?
no
Did you go back into a raid with it
i extracted with it in my pouch
did you bring it into a raid by accident
Bettt
run through?
Hi, When you die with a item it doesn't stay found in raid or if you bring a found in raid item back in your container.
i got a run through
yep thats why
^ that's why
run through removes the FIR status and only FIR flash drives can be turned in