eft-chat

[surreal moth]

go to bed everyone

[vital sail]

any volunteers

[harsh shell]

YOU

[polar delta]

a bullet to the brain can almost instakill

[upbeat thunder]

Not the same millstone the bullet enters tho

[polar delta]

so can a bullet to the carotid artery

[harsh shell]

he means to chest and shit

[burnt flame]

YOO i got another red rebel form partizan!!!!

[upbeat thunder]

You still sit there thinking abt why u moved where you are out

[harsh shell]

as for whether a shot to the chest would instantly kill you irl idfk ive never been shot before

[upbeat thunder]

Lmao

[vital sail]

ill find out gimme a sec

[static yew]

typically nowhere unless its hitting your heart or spine

[tawny berry]

seems like it depends on where

[upbeat thunder]

Idk I feel like dieing should be more fun than just folding over

[static yew]

the spine or the heart

[upbeat thunder]

Like if u get headshot have a color disorient

[tawny berry]

grayzone warfare seems dope because it simulates organs and shit

[harsh shell]

put kidney failure in tarkov

[upbeat thunder]

Gore in tarkov lowk would go hard but idk how people would feel

[vital sail]

Ok guys if you get shot in the chest you dont die rig

[static yew]

I feel like grayzone is what tarkov was supposed to be

at least in terms of gameplay

[fathom cypress]

It would be awesome if you could break someone's ribs by schwacking them with a hefty snub nose round like .366 or 9x39 or .300

[harsh shell]

im gonna kiss you on the mouth

[fathom cypress]

you don't pen their armor

but you fuck em up big time

[surreal moth]

ME

[vital sail]

I told you not to say this in public bro👉👈

[static yew]

Stop sexually harassing

Thats NOT OKAY

[tawny berry]

lmfao

[silk prairie]

tarkov if it was good

[upbeat thunder]

Yeah and h the an they are loud and in pain and can’t turn quickly with out wincing and taking damage

[surreal moth]

ugh someone!

[upbeat thunder]

Like there’s so much cooler stuff they could do

[vital sail]

Hi lol (discord in bio)

[silk prairie]

you'd think your ribs wouldnt be in peak condition after catching a .338 round to the chest

[upbeat thunder]

Add some farcry 3 healing animations

[harsh shell]

💔

[native coyote]

hk nerf?

[surreal moth]

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[surreal moth]

too many question marks

[native coyote]

ah

[upbeat thunder]

Or your skull would at least be a little more than just double vision after reflecting a mosin round

[harsh shell]

if you got shot in the head by 5.45 PP while wearing a DA bastion you probably wouldnt feel very good either but guess what

mild concussion that lasts about 30 seconds

[upbeat thunder]

Some sort of color deformation

Any just to add more to getting shot

[fathom cypress]

most rifle rounds will go right through even an altyn irl

[harsh shell]

also as for ricochet

i honestly think ricochet should just be removed from the game

[static yew]

if you get shot in the head wearing a DA bastion its going to go into the DA bastion and fucking kill you

[harsh shell]

its a dumbass mechanic

[upbeat thunder]

No

[ember forum]

what is it with my autistic ass and games that have health systems with individual limb/body part health/status

this game
Fear and Hunger
Casualties Unknown
Kenshi

[upbeat thunder]

You also never come up with a thought again

[fathom cypress]

bog standard 55 grain 5.56 will but a nice clean hole in a helmet out to like 300m

[harsh shell]

you can have better gear, better aim, and still get punished

[upbeat thunder]

Fear holy

[static yew]

its actually stupid how its implemented but it shouldnt be removed

[harsh shell]

and the other guy is rewarded for spraying your chest

[upbeat thunder]

Fear would
Be so cool

[soft haven]

lets add a mechanic to punish people for aiming for the head

[harsh shell]

like its so dumb

[acoustic otter]

lets remove rng!

[fathom cypress]

ironically, the only way a helmet stops a rifle round is by ricocheting

[upbeat thunder]

Heart pounding and sh after getting in a fight and running away

[harsh shell]

might aswell just give everyone .338 and tell them to stop aiming head

[strong spear]

The only thing I want removed is dync lol

[fathom cypress]

real

[acoustic otter]

u cant have that

[harsh shell]

not happening

[static yew]

unless its at a significant distance and you're wearing the IHPS, aparentally

[soft haven]

i want my sterile aimlabs experience in an extraction shooter

[ember forum]

you just get jumpscared mid gunfight

[harsh shell]

pretty much yeah

[upbeat thunder]

Factory role play

[fathom cypress]

no more desync and optimization is probably the most important thing Burger State Games could do

[ember forum]

Tagilla RP walk

[upbeat thunder]

Taggila shoves his hammer

[harsh shell]

mmmfgh

[ember forum]

horrendous pair of messages thank you

[upbeat thunder]

Digital footprint

[static yew]

screenshotted, saved, doing things to it later

[ember forum]

Freakila

[tawny berry]

[static yew]

do u think fence is a foot freak

[harsh shell]

yes

[static yew]

He looks like one

[acoustic otter]

rysko is fence

[harsh shell]

???

[upbeat thunder]

Def a necrophiliac

[ember forum]

Fence looks like what every stock image of anonymous or deep web users look like

[upbeat thunder]

Idek what that means ngl

[harsh shell]

LAD

[surreal moth]

@upbeat thunder foot?

🦶

[silk prairie]

ragman mogs just saying

[ember forum]

lmao did anyone else see that visual bug you get from trying to visit Peacekeeper

[static yew]

The deep web is boring but I did find one good website that was like schizo youtube

[upbeat thunder]

Ref just kinda sits there

[ember forum]

looks like some shit I'd see on Instagram under the dreamcore or liminal hashtag or some shit

[static yew]

There was an upload of a guy ranting about how the US navy was microwaving our oceans

[upbeat thunder]

Yeah they are

[static yew]

I wish I saved the onion link

[upbeat thunder]

Dude you have been brainwashed already if you don’t believe in this

[static yew]

Who says Im not the guy

[upbeat thunder]

Your all just sheep

[ember forum]

you're*

[silk prairie]

i was walking my pet fish in the ocean and it got destroyed by a microwave wave... it was brutal and they covered it all up

[upbeat thunder]

Flat Esrth is the real thing

[upbeat thunder]

See you a sheep

[ember forum]

Earth*

[upbeat thunder]

Following preset rules and things like “grammar”

[ember forum]

gnarp gnarp gleeble globble

[acoustic otter]

earth is universal S shaped

[upbeat thunder]

🙄

[tawny berry]

earth is actually shaped like the halo ring

[calm nest]

yo

streets buff RBK is nutty

RB-VO, chek 15 and bitcoin on my first hit

RB-VO, ULTRA med and chek 13 on my second

[acoustic otter]

2026

[calm nest]

W rusted bloody buff

[calm nest]

2077

[ember forum]

I know fuckall about keys still lol

outside of marked key good

[silk prairie]

some dude will still get garbage loot and then complain about it dont worry

[calm nest]

chek 15 is 1 mil+

ULTRA med is still in the few hundred thousands

[fathom cypress]

streets runs less terribly and the game in general is smoother for me to play

I have a fairly old computer with low-mid end components

[silk prairie]

abandoned factory is nasty everytime i open a marked i barely break even but abandoned factory just gives SO much

[chrome ridge]

Is there still sniper scavs on ground zero

[fathom cypress]

still newer than tarkov by several years

but not nearly at the specs required

[strong spear]

I don't think there ever has been, but as of now, no.

[chrome ridge]

Ok thanks

I’ve seen them once above olive cafe

[ember forum]

rn I have room 306 and the yellow Terragroup card, the others aren't very good seemingly

[tardy frost]

Hey anyone, just got the discord but im level 39 and tryna duo with someone on labs or maybe reserve if anyone wants to play

[surreal moth]

don’t forget to check out #lfg-info lots of live players there

[cold brook]

I personally prefer undead players but whatever floats your boat

[surreal moth]

so alive players ?

your joke fails

need a joke sherpa ?

[knotty musk]

Aura

[cold brook]

acting like undead doesn't mean zombies and skeletons

[fading goblet]

undead is not alive

[cold brook]

this fed guy is pissing me off

[tawny berry]

lol

[cold brook]

get on

[knotty musk]

No

[cold brook]

yes

[knotty musk]

No

[cold brook]

whats ur excuse this time

[surreal moth]

peanut allergy

[ocean onyx]

well it doesn't, hope this helps

[knotty musk]

My online assessment starts today and I would like to prepare

[cold brook]

we dont know you bro

[ocean onyx]

i have court in 6 hours and im on interchange

[cold brook]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[ocean onyx]

no excuses

[surreal moth]

i’ll pray for you in my sleep 🛌

please let butch do this or else i will have to show him how it’s done and i don’t want to move to the uk pls 🙏🏻

[knotty musk]

???

[vital sail]

all in his head?

[surreal moth]

there’s a empty room in pepsi house

[knotty musk]

True

[surreal moth]

his family will adopt me

[knotty musk]

Get to know his mother maybe

[surreal moth]

already know the broad

[knotty musk]

@cold brook thoughts?

[modern minnow]

Which axe melee is better camper axe or antique axe

[wintry tendon]

7n40 or m855a1

[surreal moth]

those aren’t like

[wintry tendon]

in price they are

[surreal moth]

i can’t do this

[wintry tendon]

lol 120 bullets for 300k oof

only got 33m

[surreal moth]

just don’t do that

craft m855a1

[wintry tendon]

ew never

rather just craft m80a1

i will never craft that shit ammo

[fickle kite]

I swear tarkov just picks and chooses when to run good. I was running smooth earlier today and now my arena is a choppy FUCKING MESS

[wintry tendon]

or bp

[surreal moth]

i crafted both, 5k m80a1 and 16k 855a1

[wintry tendon]

for mutant

[surreal moth]

but then i prestiged

now i have 3000 PAB 9

[cold brook]

fed couldn't pull an inanimate object (as evidenced by his pillow rejecting his advances) let alone a living breathing human being

[surreal moth]

i can’t say my joke but it’s a good one believe me

[jaunty geyser]

Any updates on when the PVE stuff is coming to arena?

[wintry tendon]

[cold brook]

dont gotta worry abt that

[surreal moth]

don’t worry my child

guys i know what you’re thinking

[wintry tendon]

eh just doing test drive 3 need 545

[surreal moth]

so stop thinking that

[surreal moth]

why

this is what a bitcoin looks like find them

[wintry tendon]

bro never use ak tbh fr

[surreal moth]

and buy more bullets

[wintry tendon]

i dont wanna

[surreal moth]

i like my scar

and my

[wintry tendon]

which one

[cold brook]

the one just above his hip bone

[surreal moth]

x17

[wintry tendon]

dexter

[surreal moth]

dexter

i’m establishing new hongkong in seattle, lookout china

[jaunty geyser]

I just want these arena tasks done, and the new weapon parts you can get from. Also sounded like their plans were similar to how insurgency plays, and that would be sick as hell.

[cold brook]

bro been typing so long I think he should take his message to a publisher

oh there we go

[surreal moth]

that’s all you had to say

consider playing more arena

[cursive relic]

is arena audio bugged rn?

[vital sail]

Isisisisisi

[sharp sandal]

Audio has been generally chaos as of late

So i wouldn't be surprised

[cursive relic]

thats a shame, hopefully its not a consistent thing

[wintry tendon]

bloody rusty off my scav

[sharp sandal]

gg

[wintry tendon]

1.8 scav rep

[vital sail]

Bloody ell

[vocal shoal]

the luck

[knotty musk]

The only pve mode that's coming to arena is a wave shooter where you survive against waves of AI while completing objectives

You won't be completing your tasks on that mode

[cyan oxide]

??codes

[reef condor]

Redeem your goodies → https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/promo/activate (Or launcher → your name → activate code)
Main game:
SBEUKOMAR | SCAVYBOI | GOONSQUAD | LIGHTSOUT | PAY2WIN | ELVISVISTA | INEEDSPACE
Arena:
MxgicFPSApr26

[tall citrus]

since they announced an end date i imagine they have something planned

but i bet redditors will get bsg to extend it

[upbeat ginkgo]

TARKOV SHOULDN'T TAKE 10 YEARS
Elder Scrolls fans: First time?
(8 years ago a trailer)
18 years time gap for the next game lol "maybe 2029"

[silent hemlock]

thanks for crushing my hopes and dreams

[jaunty geyser]

Ah, then I have no reason to buy it.

[ember forum]

where was this announced?

TarkovTV?

sounds like it could be fun actually

[sharp sandal]

hello chat

[knotty musk]

It was one of the core modes advertised when arena first came out but talk of it stopped for a while but we asked and we know it's still in development

[sharp sandal]

OVERRUN

I WANT OVER RUN SO FUCKING BADLY

[cerulean stag]

did they change the jamming

[sharp sandal]

its the only reason i wanted arena in the beginning

[tawny berry]

i dont think they have specifically announced it by name yet

but overrun was planned for a long time so it is probably that

[spice bane]

Overrun is gonna be the masochist's cod zombies

[fathom cypress]

I hope they do a FEAR sort of thing with AI in tarkov

[dry oasis]

Ztill waiting for tournament to return

Why they removed it? I don't know

Biggest stinky

[cold brook]

bro....

shootout is back already 😭

[dry oasis]

Wait a really?

[cold brook]

its been back since the start of arena season2

[dry oasis]

Like the mode with the bracket

And etc

Is it still set load outs?

Or custom now

[cold brook]

bro needs to get on and play some shootout

[knotty musk]

Its bad now

[cold brook]

its good now

[knotty musk]

They removed spectating in the stands

[cold brook]

they removed spectating in the stands

[dry oasis]

Tf do you do now

[knotty musk]

You watch the scoreboard

[cold brook]

there just isn't any waiting

[knotty musk]

And wait

[dry oasis]

That's gay af

[knotty musk]

There is waiting

[cold brook]

you finish a round and are usually just in the next round

[knotty musk]

I literally had to wait 2 whole minutes stating at a scoreboard

Stating

Staring

[tall citrus]

raptor ap ammo is dogshit god damn

[dry oasis]

They butchered my poor boy

[knotty musk]

Yeah it's bad

But it's fine because they have cringe fortnite animations at the start of each round

[dry oasis]

Lmao wdym?

[knotty musk]

Where your characters point at each other and shit (it just overlays onto the screen while you wait for the doors to open)

[dry oasis]

Truly what we all wanted from bsg

[knotty musk]

Yea

They ruined the mode completely

[dry oasis]

Did they add more weapons to arena yet

[knotty musk]

The 1.0 stuff is in arena

[dry oasis]

Like the toz

[knotty musk]

No

[dry oasis]

Disappointing

I don't even mean this as "bsg bad" but why does arena exist if not to allow weapons

[knotty musk]

They removed weapons recently

[dry oasis]

Huh?

What'd they remove

[knotty musk]

The recolour weapons

Everything that was a variant of something else is gone

[dry oasis]

I will never understand bsg

[light torrent]

The NL545 DI may be the prettiest gun in Tarkov, especially with an Arena attachment or two. It looks good, feels good and hits like a truck.

[cold brook]

more like a swarm of wasps

[light torrent]

I tried it out for the first time today and I adore it

[dry oasis]

@knotty musk I forget pookie did you like hunt

[light torrent]

5.45 is surprisingly potent for being so accessible. Scav runs on Reserve constantly provide BP, and I find people running that BP on LABS all the time in NL variants

[granite dove]

Does gluhkar SPAWN AT ALL?

[strong spear]

100% spawn rn

I've pretty much only seen him around train/ rb-vo

[knotty musk]

I did until they added sbmm

[lethal rampart]

whats the best way to report a bug ? i have max intellect and the bonus skills dont work

[knotty musk]

??br

[reef condor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523438319929917441/1357862181311615208/N50ll0g.png?ex=67f1bf33&is=67f06db3&hm=ea8a8942b7eea52effa8b85950c0cfed7ace61fc267342834a1660ab4334887b&

[dry oasis]

Valid, I still gotta shill for hunger

It's my beloved

[slate flint]

??codes

[reef condor]

Redeem your goodies → https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/promo/activate (Or launcher → your name → activate code)
Main game:
SBEUKOMAR | SCAVYBOI | GOONSQUAD | LIGHTSOUT | PAY2WIN | ELVISVISTA | INEEDSPACE
Arena:
MxgicFPSApr26

[knotty musk]

if seasonal goes the way i think itll go for tarkov, ill probably quit the game

[drifting trail]

aanyone know why zb-1011 wouldnt be working on customs? there's no ???? and its on my extraction list, nothing happens and its the only one i can really go to

[quiet apex]

Did you turn the power on

[drifting trail]

no, how do i do that?

[quiet apex]

Its in the warehouse on the other side of the train tracks from stronghold

[dry oasis]

Something stinky happening?

Or more so nothing happens

[drifting trail]

the guide im looking at says that's zb-1013 and that zb-1011 has no requirement, are you sure?

[knotty musk]

its a blank slate with no achievements or prestige carry over from the main character

[knotty musk]

and the way seasonal is displayed here tells me those are the achievements we need to get over the season to get all the rewards

[cold brook]

I doubt it

[knotty musk]

no its confirmed that way

i even went back over the tarkovtv

[dry oasis]

Really riveting updates from bsg

[knotty musk]

like if i have to punish myself through snowball and master of ultra just to get max rewards from seasonal

i dont want to play it

because day 1 of seasonal everyones gonna be in interchange hunting killa

[acoustic otter]

if u need to get snowball then nikita might need to go to the retirement home

i cant imagine something more boring and wasteful of my time

[quiet apex]

maybe i'm wrong i always get those customs extract numbers mixed up

[drifting trail]

honestly think it was just a glitch 😢 i tried a few other extracts and none of them were up so i ended up having to transit to factory... i double checked that the extract letters weren't red and everything, no clue why it just didnt work for me

[final wigeon]

its crazy the actual grind for prestige now is the endurance one more then anything

[spice bane]

Is that guide the wiki?

[drifting trail]

yep, i used wiki maps, i used 3d maps, etc etc, i promise that's the room

[spice bane]

Because 13 certainly has requirements in the form of a key and a lever

[drifting trail]

i've extracted there before without any problems

[spice bane]

But 11 has none

[final wigeon]

13 is fort then you just count down to the corner. hope this helps

[keen mango]

Hello

[untold sluice]

11 is in the way back corner across from sniper checkpoint

13 is fortress basement

[lethal rampart]

12 is the one you need the paper for same as the campfire one

11 is free

13 is the one under stronghold

[final wigeon]

yeah but 7 eight 9

[sand pendant]

so they expect us to grind tracksuit? again?

[untold sluice]

Maybe

[knotty musk]

yes the achievements are completely separate from main

no carry over

[sand pendant]

idk about that chief

[ember forum]

doing hideout craft for lightbulbs, I'll have to do it twice, then I just need to buy two more wire bundles and I'll have illumination 2

I wish I could queue multiple crafts even though I can't do more than one at a time rn

but just so I could have them start after

[lethal rampart]

the seasonal changes every 60 days or something also

[final wigeon]

prob 3-4 months

[lethal rampart]

and you can select certin bonus and debuffs for your person to play with

[final wigeon]

hopefully

[lethal rampart]

either he said it or i read some where its 60 days

but i could be wrong

[sand pendant]

actually we arent so sure about that

[knotty musk]

nikita has said it will wipe twice a year

[sand pendant]

last screenshot said something about seasonal buffs and debuffs that apply to everyone

[knotty musk]

no

[sand pendant]

yes it did

[knotty musk]

theres global modifiers and personal modifiers that you pick

[sand pendant]

pretty sure global means applies to everyone

oh okay, the bottom ones are personal

[knotty musk]

yeah

[sand pendant]

grey one is applied to everyone tho

[knotty musk]

you pick negative traits to balance out the positive ones

like zomboid

[sand pendant]

so we do get a project zomboid thing

[knotty musk]

ye

[sand pendant]

yeah

[keen mango]

Can't wait to pick bushborne and get covert maxed out

[sand pendant]

here is to hoping bsg wont rebalance them mid season and fuck over all our builds

(i totally expect them to)

[tall citrus]

this is a wild assumption but at the same time why dont the other zones have achievements listed too? so i get why youre saying that

bad mockup image

[sand pendant]

ofc this could just be a placeholder, but if bsg really expects players to grind tracksuit again for some special ass reward (red tracksuit maybe)

man, fuck me...

[ember forum]

did you guys have a hard time with a helping hand/shipping delay part 1?

I think I'll try and get it done soon

[tall citrus]

no why

[sharp sandal]

Its fairly easy

[ember forum]

just checking, seems like an easy enough 20k XP

[acoustic otter]

it is

[ember forum]

since it completes 2 quests in one

[acoustic otter]

if u get the map its free af, can jsut loot up and leave

[ember forum]

just don't wanna let the BTR leave before I get out of depot lol

[tall citrus]

just wait at one of the spawns and if it doesnt spawn wait at the crossroads part besides mountain

youve got 2 minutes to run into 3 buildings

[ember forum]

you can't enter train depot without the BTR, right?

[tall citrus]

its easy

[knotty musk]

the assumption is based on nikita previously saying that each season will have goals you have to aim for that are beyond the normal gameplay loop

[ember forum]

3 buildlings?

[acoustic otter]

if u want the btr u can just send it to sunken village and itll come back while ure looting, but u can just walk out on the trains u dont need btr to leave, only to enter

[ember forum]

doesn't it only spawn in one room?

[knotty musk]

• the achievements being listed

[loud grail]

yo, how do I get the rfid card encryption device?

[tall citrus]

oh the package then thats easier

[ember forum]

true, but you gotta break your legs and you also risk mines hitting you

[acoustic otter]

mines wont hit u if u walk in the middle of tracks and train

[ember forum]

well either way, I think I could get it done easily enough

[knotty musk]

survive in labs for >30 minutes then speak to mechanic for a 24 hour timegate

[acoustic otter]

just bring splints for ur legs then ure good 2 go

[ember forum]

I only need like 20k more XP to hit 21 too

[loud grail]

like 30 mins in one go?

[knotty musk]

just total >30m

[loud grail]

ah ok

thanks

[vital sail]

dont thank him

[loud grail]

O, ima thank HIM

[loud grail]

THE ONLY WAY TO SEND TRUE THANKS

[fickle harbor]

why the heck my game cant launch i have done verifying and setting the path

[loud grail]

reinstalled launcher?

[sage adder]

Clear the cache.

[fickle harbor]

ill try

[ember forum]

tbh you should clear cache every time you open the game

also delete the contents of the logs folder every so often

[fickle harbor]

didnt work

[ember forum]

unless you need them

[sage adder]

This message is not edited.

[fickle harbor]

bru i need to reinstall my game

damn nothing works

[silent hemlock]

This message is edited.

[normal hearth]

_ _

[silent hemlock]

­

[hardy sail]

This message is built different

[sand pendant]

UH-1 holo honestly underrated

its often like half the price of the eotechs and has basically the same reticle

[rotund brook]

English only please

[ripe jacinth]

are the flee market level restrictions gonna be removed in 2.0 or are they here to stay ?

[sand pendant]

two times in a row that i get the shitty stairs spawn next to main elevator on labs

[knotty musk]

@hallow fractal Lets not do this

[sand pendant]

fucking hell, give me an actual spawn

[knotty musk]

dont bring up drama

dont start drama

i do not care

[cold brook]

double rusted keys from arena valuable crates 😭

[valid kiln]

is the current event daytime raids only?

[acoustic otter]

2.0 is 50 years away

[vital sail]

67

[cold brook]

this year is 2.0 tho 🤔

[cold brook]

I doubt they're going anywhere

[acoustic otter]

i refuse to believe it

did that guy really say that on tarkovtv

[cold brook]

yes

nikita said that this year they are trying to push for "tarkov 2.0"

with all the changes, and upcoming ones, like down but not out and group task progression

[acoustic otter]

amazing, 1.0 in 10 years, 2.0 in 1 year

exponential growth i think they call it

[cold brook]

and here I am waiting for something that even comes close to my expectations of 1.0

[acoustic otter]

tho i think personally those changes he mentioned arent big enough to market it as "2.0"

[cold brook]

surely before 2030 right?

[winged siren]

went to the flea and noticed i had a bunch of random shit on my w list but, instead of just being able to remove it i needed to first re choose a wishlist option and only then was i able to remove it, but the most annoying part is even after removing it all, as soon as i go back its all there again

[acoustic otter]

just turn off the auto wishlist thing then press reset wlist

[ember forum]

spawned scav town and missed the BTR twice 😭

[knotty musk]

thats because in the settings there is an auto wishlist hideout items option

[ember forum]

I guess two other people got it before me

[winged siren]

life saver

[ember forum]

it didn't stop

then I ended up getting ran up on in ZB-016 lol

[vital sail]

Just be faster if

[cold brook]

do we reckon rusted is dropping w keys rn?

[ember forum]

I walked right up to it a couple of times and couldn't hit F on it lol

[ripe jacinth]

sad

[white arch]

@knotty musk yo do you know if you can drop rogue maps ingame?

[cold brook]

not really, just play the game

[knotty musk]

no idea

[ember forum]

does the BTR go in a set path looping around the map?

or can the direction it goes in change?

[acoustic otter]

if were lucky theyll just remove the flea instead of the restrictions

[vital sail]

I

dont know

[ember forum]

😭

fair enough

on a nicer note; I just got illumination 2

god that's so much nicer to look at, way less drab

[ripe jacinth]

while not giving us any more options for barters and crafts

so much for scavenging

[cold brook]

the game if bsg removed the flea and actually rebalanced traders to a good spot would be so peak

[ripe jacinth]

i would agree to remove flea or keep it restricted if the traders and crafts were actually balanced

that's the whole point

[vital sail]

Please tell me what exactly would this change

like so many of you like to say how the flea ruins the game

how does it ruin the game and how would removing it fix anything

By making it so people csn buy items for barters? Giving them ability to grt guns for a bit cheaper?

[ripe jacinth]

i dont, i love having flea market, and i would absolutely prefer keeping it, but if they're gonna limit it so much then atleast balance the traders for that

[ember forum]

same

the flea market/player driven economy is a massive part of this game's identity

[ripe jacinth]

like why do i have to wait until lvl 25 to buy an assault rifle from flea, that's so stupid

[ember forum]

people would just trade without the flea anyways

might as well have a system in place for it

[urban oak]

this new quest really is ass..

[vital sail]

I think everything should be available at like lvl 10

lpvos, marked keyz

[urban oak]

take 6 massive boxes and stash them in an open location....

[vital sail]

well maybe not marked keys

[ember forum]

this is dumb as shit tho yeah

[ripe jacinth]

people that keep pushing for the game to be more "hardcore" and "challenging" just dont like having fun

[ember forum]

why the fuck can I buy x gun but not the mags for it lmao

[ripe jacinth]

almost like tarkov is a video game

[ripe jacinth]

ikr, so dumb

[vital sail]

I dont mind if someone likes hardcore games

[ember forum]

sure okay lock all ammo types to 25, I can even understand that

[ripe jacinth]

me neither but there's a difference between challenging and straight up miserable

[ember forum]

but cmon at least let me use the guns I just unlocked properly

[vital sail]

but there are dudes here complaining about people ratting, being scared and having gear fear but also scream for change that would make getting gear harder

[ripe jacinth]

of course i'll rat when i know that if i loose my gun i have a chance to never see it again until lvl 25

[sand pendant]

okay, for some reason trimadol and meldonin are through the roof on flea rn

free money i guess

[acoustic otter]

cuz its a dumbass system that makes money easy af and kills almost all crafts and barters and just gives u almost whatever u want in the game

[vital sail]

And how exactly does it ruin the game

why is it so bad that i dont have to wait 3 hours for 90 bullets

[ember forum]

does generator continue to drain even if the game is closed?

[sand pendant]

problem with removing it, it would intice more gear fear in noobs and create more rats

[vital sail]

and dont gotta look for singular items for those 90 bullets

[ripe jacinth]

"kills almost all crafts" as if most crafts are good to begin with

[acoustic otter]

assuming that i mean remove flea and do no other changes nice

[sand pendant]

yeah, many crafts are just bad from the get-go

[quiet apex]

Yes

[ember forum]

good to know

[vital sail]

O glorious Ento. Please tell me how you personally would balance it

[quiet apex]

Removing flea

grim

[acoustic otter]

yes ill sit down and make a sheet about all the changes id make

[forest shore]

do we know when seasonal chars are coming?

[vital sail]

Ill wait

[acoustic otter]

ull be waiting a long time

[vital sail]

alright

[ember forum]

"lets just make crafting every low tier hideout station a complete goddamned pain in the ass, along with building kits at low loyalty levels"

[quiet apex]

Yeah just level up??

[soft haven]

huh

[ripe jacinth]

"just spend hundreds of hours of your life grinding an unbalanced and arbitrarily unfair system"

[quiet apex]

yeah

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[acoustic otter]

idk how the concept is so out of this world tbh and i for some reason have to make up all the balance changes other than just putting more items on traders, increasing limits and reducing craft times

[soft haven]

thats like the big idea yeah

[ripe jacinth]

considering your name i'm not surprised by your opinion

[soft haven]

the game is supposed to be punishing and hardcore

unfair too

[vital sail]

If you don't like something and are pushing for a change, but you yourself can't think of what to change, or don't bother explaining what direction you want them to go. You're just whining

[acoustic otter]

just gave multiple options but id think it says itself based on what i said previously

[knotty musk]

just saying the hardcore wipe was the most fun ive ever had in the game and the flea market was locked for ages

[acoustic otter]

and tbh i dont think u need to say or explain anything more than what u want changed

[ember forum]

outside of Labryss, what's the point of using transits? Why not just go back to your stash and then queue again?

[acoustic otter]

like the people who want inertia gone

[knotty musk]

tasks, exp multipliers

[acoustic otter]

most will just say remove inertia as i say remove flea

[ripe jacinth]

again, it can be punishing and hardcore without being unnecessarily restricted, its a video game, not a job

[acoustic otter]

specific balance isnt my job

[vital sail]

Wasnt hardcore wipe also the wipe where most players didnt bother playing the game

[ember forum]

it'd be insane if you could transit from Ground Zero all the way to Terminal lol

and people did it as like a challenge

[acoustic otter]

well no1 actually knows player numbers but probably

[knotty musk]

because players are too used to crutch mechanics that make the game too easy, and not having access to an infinite rouble farm and ability to skip playing the rest of the game (ie tasking and levelling up traders to unlock stuff) was too much for them to handle

[acoustic otter]

result of purely removing flea while also doing other stupid changes like locking quests

[fluid vigil]

Aka people enjoy the game more without all the hardcore shit lol

[ember forum]

the game is brutal enough for most without hardcore wipe imo

[vital sail]

i personally would rather someone sitting in his stash, on the flea market 24/7 buying and selling the same item, that i will never see in an actual raid than being locked to primitive guns and having to mark the same 40 spots with a marker which will 100% be camped since everyone is too scared to get into actual fights

[ember forum]

like the median of players I'd say

[knotty musk]

thing is

[ember forum]

agree

[knotty musk]

hardcore wipe wasnt anymore ratty than usual

because people NEEDED to go to places

pvp was happening in places it wouldnt usually

they couldnt just open the flea and buy all the bolts and bulbs they needed for hideout

[spice bane]

Having to make due with what you have instead of the constant min-maxxing that is current builds is honestly way more fun

[vital sail]

So what changes

[knotty musk]

and the pvp was fun because people had the primitive shit

[ember forum]

I don't like having zero flexibility or choice tho

[harsh shell]

i had a 2 hour nap

[sand pendant]

hardcore wipe was ass ngl

[vital sail]

i dont go to a place where there are lots of tool crates, instead i go to a place where i know i will see players and good loot

[knotty musk]

instead of 2 days into wipe and people have access to everything

[ember forum]

even though I get wym with that

[harsh shell]

i feel fucking ghastly

[sand pendant]

even budget kits (like literally, scav kits, SKS with SP type shit) was worth a mortgage

also no insurance existed

[acoustic otter]

early wipe pvp with shitty budget kits barely modded is the best

[sand pendant]

or to be precise, insurance was a money trap

[acoustic otter]

insurance was the dumbest shit ive ever seen in hardcore

[vital sail]

You have to specify that this is your opinion

[spice bane]

You have loads of choice even at a very low level when it comes to caliber and guns, very very few calibers you cant get your hand on from the get go

[harsh shell]

yeah but we dont get that because everyone cried and cried about hardcore

[knotty musk]

i think people have forgotten what type of game tarkov is supposed to be, even bsg themselves have forgotten

[sand pendant]

"insured your comtacs accidentally? too bad, -200k"

[acoustic otter]

not really

[spice bane]

And those you cant are ultra niche

[harsh shell]

so we’re back to people having meta m4s day 2 of wipe

[acoustic otter]

disciplinary action for whoever cooked that up

[lyric abyss]

i dont think main game flea should be changed, but maybe on seasonal they bring about a more hardcore flea + make crafting more useful and faster, just to keep everyone always on their back foot in terms of loot

[acoustic otter]

we will get some days with seasonal 🙏

[knotty musk]

flea was literally a band aid fix for testing purposes that became a crutch for the playerbase

[sand pendant]

the fact that insurance was literally like 2-3x the purchase price, even with the stupid ass hardcore slider changes was nuts

[lyric abyss]

i love kits that are just scrounged together with whatever the hell you could find

[harsh shell]

as much as i sit there going on about i love labs i love m4 yip yap i do actually prefer having a really fucked up AK fighting someone else who has a really fucked up gun

i like it when everyone has LL1 traders and finding the 1 dot eotech is like a miracle

[vital sail]

lowkey instead of main character and seasonal they shouldve made hardcore and softcore

[sand pendant]

also the fact that they NERFED SELL VALUE and jacked up prices by 50% each, resulting in over 2x effective prices made buying shit miserable

[ripe jacinth]

you mean the few people that can dedicate hours everyday to grinding the game while more casual players keep getting shit on ?

[acoustic otter]

yea just goes against the point of insurance when its more expensive than just rebuying the item 😂

[knotty musk]

this happens regardless of whether flea market exists or not

because the game rewards playing the game

[sand pendant]

hardcore was just stupid slider changes and nothing innovative

[vital sail]

You mean you dont set up alarms to notify you when your crafts are done so you dont waste a single second? 😂

[lyric abyss]

splitting the player base in that way would be hellish, pve already made timmies near extinct

[sand pendant]

add to that the nerfed crafts and no additional barters at the time

if anything crafts shouldve been rebalanced and buffed

to encourage looting to craft shit

[ripe jacinth]

and removing flea just limits the casuals even more

[knotty musk]

its not a game designed for casuals

genuinely

thats the whole point

[sand pendant]

least gatekeeping eft player

[vital sail]

shit changes dude. What bsg thought 5 years ago isnt what they think now

[sand pendant]

^

[ripe jacinth]

i'm crine

[acoustic otter]

lowkey is just kinda true tho

why do casuals pick the one of the most hardcore grindy games on the market then want it to be changed to be easier

[vital sail]

they got the taste of the benjamins, now they want to cater towards casuals

[knotty musk]

its not even a matter of gatekeeping

[ripe jacinth]

they actually treat tarkov like it's not just a video game, you're supposed to sell your soul to nikita and pledge your allegiance to him apparently

[spice bane]

Removing flea atleast bridged the gap between pure casuals and semi casual metaslaves that dont know how it works

Chads will remain chads

Law of the land that

[lyric abyss]

tarkov has a different overton window compared to most game's playerbases; the casuals of tarkov are far more serious than the casuals of candy crush

[keen mango]

Guys let’s just add a trader that sells everything in game and make it cost 200$

[knotty musk]

its an objective truth that the game isnt supposed to be for casuals, never has been

[vital sail]

Define casual please

[knotty musk]

someone who plays 2 hours per week shouldnt be able to be on the same level as someone who plays 50 hours

[sand pendant]

recent changes contradict that statement

[spare pumice]

Korund-vm plates, T5 what do we think theyre worth on flea?

[ember forum]

someone with less hours to play and or a lower mechanical skill floor I imagine

[vital sail]

no gen doesnt quest, doesnt care about anything other than loot and pvp. I wouldnt call him a casual

[spare pumice]

no listings

[knotty musk]

refer to the previous statement where i said bsg have forgotten what the game is supposed to be

[keen mango]

Nothing tbh you can buy those from ll4 prapor

[spare pumice]

gotcah

[ember forum]

not saying you are but im waiting for people get mad at the fact that the game even has a tutorial now lol

[sand pendant]

its their game to do stuff with. i wont interfere with nikitas vision. if he wants the game to be more accessible, so be it

[ripe jacinth]

Giving access to more gear and resources earlier doesnt suddenly make someone good at the game, you keep complaining about people being able to just get "everything so easily" which "ruins the challenge" as if having usable gear suddenly gives them aimbot and godly game sense

[vital sail]

It does jackshit so dont think anyone would get mad

[ember forum]

true

[sand pendant]

yeah, for a truly skilled player, gear doesnt matter all too much

[acoustic otter]

tutorial is cool but also not that useful

[knotty musk]

the only thing bad about the tutorial is that you get given a free ledx and gpu from it

[harsh shell]

the way i viewed it was it made insurance only for something you really value and cant just buy again

[vital sail]

Didnt they change that

[knotty musk]

no

you still get given it

[ember forum]

wonder how many new players didn't realize or just ignored them flat out lmao

[knotty musk]

you can just load the tutorial and click disconnect and you get given it

[acoustic otter]

only change was htey removed the extra 1-2 mil u got from it too

[vital sail]

i mean gpus are cheap anyway

[sand pendant]

you are reading too much into it, fact is, bsg just pushed stupid slider changes and prolly had a single intern do the job

[ember forum]

true, true

[knotty musk]

its not a money thing

[acoustic otter]

its not the money its for the quests

[harsh shell]

like i would insure certain attachments on my gun if i couldnt buy it again

[acoustic otter]

FIR ledx and gpu is massive

[ember forum]

for free

[knotty musk]

free thicc case at level 35

[harsh shell]

💔

[keen mango]

Still don’t know why nvgs can be insured

[sand pendant]

well, i never got the FIR ledx or gpu or the extra 2mil

[spice bane]

The GPU and Ledx shouldve stayed as just hidden loot that you have to grab yourself

[vital sail]

From who

[acoustic otter]

for a while they couldnt but people w anted it back

[knotty musk]

do you even play the game bruh

[sand pendant]

only thing i grabbed from the tutorial was a couple car medkits and the mpx

[harsh shell]

lmao remember when a bunch of people just didnt find the ledx and gpu so they changed it

[sand pendant]

i was one of them

[keen mango]

Lowk liked it that way

[vital sail]

which trader gives a free thicc case

[sharp sandal]

how did the assessment go

[ember forum]

I got all of it 🗿

[sand pendant]

who the fuck expects a ledx or gpu in the tutorial

blind i mean

[vital sail]

What trader gives a thicc case for a single ledx

[tawny berry]

i get the idea but also its not like 2018 any more when NVGs were actually kinda rare

[spice bane]

Crisis, Therapist

[tawny berry]

thermals not insured for sure tho keep that

[spice bane]

Quest reward

[short ravine]

Therapist *private clinic

[knotty musk]

the free FIR ledx from the tutorial = dont need one for private clinic + oscope drops like candy

[sand pendant]

because they recently changed it

not like NVGs are rare these days

[vital sail]

3 different answers bruh

[ember forum]

good to know

[acoustic otter]

its private clinic

[sand pendant]

i still want the BD nods

[knotty musk]

havent done it yet. Got my email this morning with the link to complete it

[sand pendant]

its a crime they aint available

[spice bane]

I misspoke, it is private clinic as the others are saying

Its still more or less free

[acoustic otter]

id assume they prolly come when seasonal drops

[silk prairie]

ledx's arent even too hard to get nowadays

[sand pendant]

i just found one in old black on labs lol

literally last raid

[vital sail]

so they get a ledx at the start that i guess they can save till lvl 35 for a quest that needs bazillion previous quests to be done

just for some hideout space

who the fuck cares bro

[short ravine]

Ye my bad its private clinic which unlocks after health care privacy 4

[lyric abyss]

i get ledx from the orange medcases a lot its funny

[spice bane]

What?

[knotty musk]

it literally skips the looting part of the game where you have to loot stuff

like

[spice bane]

Are we deadass?

[sand pendant]

love how labs cards for vendor prices just mean insane profit if you actually run labs these days

[knotty musk]

i can see why honor likes all the new hand holding changes

[vital sail]

I cann still loot ledxes and sell them for money

[spice bane]

"Who cares, its just a thicc case"

[sharp sandal]

damn

[sand pendant]

a single open from old black already pays for the card

[knotty musk]

wants the game played for him instead

[acoustic otter]

some would say private clinic is a pretty early quest

[lyric abyss]

yea you can look thru the glass and see spawns, it's like blue

[sand pendant]

it is, its like halfway to max traders or sth

[vital sail]

funny

[acoustic otter]

yes but lvl is exponential

[sand pendant]

xp wise

[sand pendant]

thats what i meant

[short ravine]

Ye these changes to make the game beginner friendly are dumb tbh, and just act as ways to cut content. If they want the game to be beginner friendly just give people a starting stash they can hold more than 2 kits in on standard

[sand pendant]

private clinic is what, lvl 35?

[spice bane]

A thicc case for a ledx and some extra stuff locked behind a questline from the trader with probably the easiest quests in the game and calling it nothing is a crazy take

[acoustic otter]

yea

[sand pendant]

max traders is 42

so more or less halfway

[lyric abyss]

i think that the FIR requirements for a lot of hideout modules negate this a bit, but you're right that they're trying to appeal to a more general audience

[short ravine]

I mean it kinda is

[acoustic otter]

35 isnt that much and in the past ive often found myself without a ledx when i get there

[spice bane]

But remember, its just a thicc case

[keen mango]

Levels after 42 is just not needed

[acoustic otter]

ledx seems to be quite easy to find now tho so it doesnt matter that much anymore but its still a uneccessry free item

[knotty musk]

just saying that giving free FIR items for pretty important milestone quests is silly as fuck

[vital sail]

right because having to find a ledx in raid and just tiptoe to extract and survive with the fir mark is so much cooler than just getting one from tutorial and just selling this one

[short ravine]

Tbf they did say they're reworking the quest so maybe this will be fixed

[knotty musk]

this is the game

[spice bane]

I believe in have like 5 rn on my pvp character and 12 on my pve one

[keen mango]

So do you say the same for prestige?

[knotty musk]

you know what game youre playing

[lyric abyss]

well yeah i think that is a lot cooler lol

[knotty musk]

in what way

[vital sail]

an extraction shooter with nice graphics and a smooth pvp that got me into the game

[spice bane]

Also, happy belated national day @acoustic otter

[acoustic otter]

ty and u2

[knotty musk]

where you find the loot to extract with

[vital sail]

which changes the progression here and there

[short ravine]

On that logic, might as well just start everyone with lv4 traders and every quest finished like what

[vital sail]

Im fine with that

[lyric abyss]

being batshit scared as you have to find your way out with some bullshit youve been looking for for like hours is a part of tarkov's essence

[vital sail]

Dont act like that shit doesnt wear off after like 300 hours

[keen mango]

You can transfer items over and they keep the fir tag

[lyric abyss]

im at 800 and it hasnt

itll only wear off if you dilute the experience by making loot less valuable

[knotty musk]

that is different because you still have to find/craft the items beforehand. It is a reward for reaching the prestige and giving you a leg up to the next one

and just to say

[short ravine]

I mean that itself is kinda dumb, but you've still found the items in raid and got them out to begin with is the difference

[knotty musk]

"gain tactical advantage and cling to your loot — only extraction decides if you live or lose it all."

this is in the description of tarkov

[spice bane]

Thx

[acoustic otter]

the description was in fact a lie

[vital sail]

What changed

secure case?

last time i checked the game is still like that

im fine with removing secure case

[ember forum]

I do like that Marathon has no secure case

[acoustic otter]

was secure case smt they added or always been here fro mthe start

[knotty musk]

except one of the biggest milestones players like to reach is given to them on a silver platter by finishing the tutorial

[ember forum]

I thought it was always there from the start too

[vital sail]

so getting a ledx is a big milestone

[knotty musk]

are you being intentionally ignorant to the entire conversation or nah

[vital sail]

you guys are living in the past

[lyric abyss]

just go to gray zone or arena breakout brochacho

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[vital sail]

I play tarkov because i enjoy it, ill do that when i stop enjoying it

[knotty musk]

holy

[short ravine]

^I'm OK with giving beginners bigger stash spaces to start, or weekly kits or something, but giving them some of the rarest items in the game, which are required for some of the milestone quests, is just silly

[vital sail]

It isnt that deep

[knotty musk]

yes

[acoustic otter]

private clinc is one of the big milestones in a wipe

[knotty musk]

yes

and oscopes drop like candy

[acoustic otter]

and private clinic translates into 1st ledx

[vital sail]

Was*

[knotty musk]

so the tutorial ledx is makes the level 35 thicc free

[short ravine]

Haha got 3 in one box at kaban yesterday

[knotty musk]

literally free

[acoustic otter]

still is

[vital sail]

You make it sound like its just another quest

[royal sinew]

farming/private clinic are always free due to tutorial rewards now

[vital sail]

since you get a free ledx

[knotty musk]

thats the debate

it shouldnt be free

[royal sinew]

personally i dont care but its annoying asf ye

[vital sail]

Is farming the mechanics quest for 3 gpus

[short ravine]

Mitigating content isn't beneficial for beginners or players generally. If you want to help beginners you don't make progress easier, just just make losing progress less punishing

[acoustic otter]

still a big milestone u just dont have to put in as much work

[knotty musk]

3 gpus but you get 1 from tutorial, 1 from another mechanic quest reward so you need only find 1 gpu

[soft haven]

is that what bothers you

[knotty musk]

its the increasing level of hand holding

[soft haven]

scavs exist and have always

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[soft haven]

i dont think anything compares to that

[knotty musk]

at least when you scav you still have to look for stuff

[vital sail]

i sold the gpu from tutorial and still got the 3 gpus piss easy. What changed

[knotty musk]

and i hate scavving

[lyric abyss]

that makes you play the game at least

[soft haven]

so do i

[soft haven]

press f on boxes listening to the spotify playlist

[lyric abyss]

ive never really heard a good rationale for why u get top tier loot from the tutorial

[lyric abyss]

that is still looting and extracting

[royal sinew]

the fact that new players dont sell the gpu and get free prog?

[vital sail]

I mean i thought they made it so you dont keep whatever you got in the tutorial

[royal sinew]

yeah it GUARANTEES a ledx/gpu

[vital sail]

A new player is definitely selling that shit before getting to lvl 35

[acoustic otter]

u get a preset amount of items from it

[royal sinew]

ok bro

[vital sail]

or before getting to mechanics farming

[acoustic otter]

except the ones who dont ofc

[short ravine]

Again, removing content doesn't help beginners it just gives everyone less to do. If you want to help beginners, you don't remove content or make content easier, you just make failing to do the content less punishing. You give people more free kits, stuff to do the content yourself, not give them the stuff to do the content directly.

[royal sinew]

free kits is not a solution

unless they're actual timmy shit

[knotty musk]

yes its about skipping the gameplay loop, not encouraging people to play

[vital sail]

ok they watched a youtube vid that recommended they didnt sell the gpu, the others sold the gpu which gave them money for an extra kit they used to play as a pmc again

Dont you guys also hate pscavs

[short ravine]

Yeah I'm not talking level 6 plates, just some basic lv4 rigs and a basic m4 or something

[royal sinew]

yeah no

still alot.

for a timmy atleast

[vital sail]

let people enjoy the game for fucks sake man. dont get pissy about it just because you had to do something the new players dont

[acoustic otter]

mostly yes but more specifically constant use of pscav when u have lots of money and clearly capable of just playing pmc

[knotty musk]

i do. I would prefer player scavs to not be able to pick their map or the time of day

[short ravine]

Don't see the harm in giving some timmies a mid level rig once a week personally

[royal sinew]

you dont see the fucking point.

[acoustic otter]

pscav should be limited to when its needed

[knotty musk]

he doesnt see any of the points

[ember forum]

are yall gonna get scav life if and when it releases lol

[royal sinew]

an m4 tho?

[urban oak]

can m80a1 shoot through concrete walls??

[royal sinew]

this guy still thinks

[knotty musk]

eod and unheard get it for free regardless so ill have it

[royal sinew]

its comin out

[ember forum]

EoD got it???

fuckin shocking

[knotty musk]

yeah eod still has the season pass

[short ravine]

Again, a m4 with a red dot, maybe a basic grip and a couple stacks of 56a1? Don't see the issue, you're just giving them a chance

[royal sinew]

yeah. also mid wipe loot.

[ember forum]

"season pass"

that's one long goddamned season lol

Fishmans reference

[acoustic otter]

worst thing ive heard in my life but fuck it

[short ravine]

Yeah, I mean it'll obviously have to scale the loot depending on the time into wipe. I agree its a lot for first day of wipe, but a few weeks in, don't see the issue personally

[vital sail]

i just dont see the topic the same way you do

[acoustic otter]

clearly

[royal sinew]

just look at twitch drops and talk to me after

[lyric abyss]

i think pscavs definitely have a place, but they shouldn't be able to spawn in the first twenty minutes of a raid

[knotty musk]

how many hours do you have?

[royal sinew]

you also dont see tarkov the way the devs/main playerbase wanted it to be

[vital sail]

550-ish

[knotty musk]

genuine question

[short ravine]

I mean twitch drops are different, get about 300 free kits day one if you have all the drops

[knotty musk]

thats why you dont have the same view

[vital sail]

did you talk to the devs personally

[knotty musk]

because youre still a new player

[acoustic otter]

i mean imagine how shit games would be if everyone just shut up and let teh devs do whatever changes they want

[lyric abyss]

ok well lol thats being a bit intentionally dense man, you can infer an author's intent in literature without personally discussing it with them

[royal sinew]

the devs literally call the game hard and unforgiving. many times in fact.

[vital sail]

If the devs wanted the game to be so hardcore, if they were so passionate about it, they wouldnt cater towards the casual playerbase. Do you know why theyre doing that? Because they like money more than whatever idea they had

[knotty musk]

good for business doesnt = good for game unfortunately

[acoustic otter]

so just shut up and take it?

[royal sinew]

fr

[vital sail]

these changes are definitely good for the game

the prestige recs, the new gps or whatever

[knotty musk]

i disagree entirely

[vital sail]

making the game more casual, brings in more casual players, game stays alive for longer

[ember forum]

im still wondering how the GPS shit is gonna work

[royal sinew]

yeah man lets not complain about dogshit changes that ruin 25% of the tasks

[glad wadi]

GPS is fine

[royal sinew]

R6 exists.

[acoustic otter]

more players != better game

[glad wadi]

and a map change is good

[vital sail]

More successful game

[knotty musk]

the casual players that will keep dying and then quit anyway because they cant take losing

[acoustic otter]

right

[vital sail]

no correlation

[acoustic otter]

so good for business

[royal sinew]

competitive game in its entirety.

still works perfectly fine.

more alive than ever

[vital sail]

because of jinxzy

[spice bane]

Same thing with CS2

[lyric abyss]

ok man 💀

[vital sail]

cs2 is making mew changes

[royal sinew]

jinxzy is NOT the sole reason.

[ember forum]

Jizzy

[vital sail]

he kickstarted that shit

or whatever the word is

[royal sinew]

look i like him he's a great guy but no.,

the game's been maintained for 10 years

[ember forum]

insert darth vader shoes darth maul joke here

[royal sinew]

by the shittiest company oat

[vital sail]

wasnt r6 in like the biggest dogshit position before jinxzy

[spice bane]

R6 had a healthy playercount before Jinxzy

[royal sinew]

fr

[knotty musk]

just saying

[acoustic otter]

jinxzy def did a lot, but no1 is playing a game if its shit just because of a streamer

[glad wadi]

literally is

show some respect to the goat

[spice bane]

That its gotten better can be attributed to him, but not solely

[rustic wave]

prestige is not supposed to be meant for everyone, hence why its named a prestige. first few prestiges being like just a little easier would be fine without butchering it

[royal sinew]

im not just talking a bit ago btw.

game wouldnt have survived to that point even if it was just him

[vital sail]

Fortunately its not "prestige" by itself. Its "prestige 1", "prestige 2" and so on

[ember forum]

they already just made them easier tho

didn't they

[fluid vigil]

Being able to prestige before even hitting max traders is absolutely insane to me. Like what does “prestige” even mean at that point

[royal sinew]

they butchered most of prestige?

[spice bane]

""

[acoustic otter]

u might actually have to be ragebaiting tho honor

[knotty musk]

hes not

[vital sail]

Im genuinely not

[ember forum]

tiny ass emoji

[knotty musk]

its too consistent through the weeks

[spice bane]

Because i added quotation marks

[royal sinew]

look i enjoy casuals getting to play tarkov
THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO IMPACT THE ACTUAL PLAYERBASE OF TARKOV

[knotty musk]

it would be a monumental ragebait that i would only be able to respect

[vital sail]

"💔"

oh wow

[acoustic otter]

so unintentional ragebait then

[vital sail]

if youre raging theres nothing i can say really. Im sorry ig

[ember forum]

what would be the way to retain casual players while not diluting the experience for those who've been playing for a while

deadass

[acoustic otter]

cinema

[spice bane]

Its not exactly new that adding any form of symbol in a discord message besides other emojis make them resized

[knotty musk]

rebalancing all the tasks, redesigning the progression system

[ember forum]

two on each side

[lyric abyss]

there's an opportunity cost to everything. the idea is that we want bsg to go against what might strictly be more profitable (catering to a wider audience of casual players) in order to preserve the game's longevity, and the experience of its most loyal players

[rustic wave]

yes and they made them TOO easy thats the point, im saying like making them just a little easier than the previous one(like removing kappa from first prestige etc. and adding other challenges instead) would be fine instead of just making it lvl25

[ember forum]

valid

[vital sail]

i mean i do agree with that

[ember forum]

what progression system specifically

[vital sail]

but prestige was never really hard the way i look at it

[ember forum]

leveling up? Trader loyalty? Flea?

[rustic wave]

only prestige 5 and 6 is actually prestigious, 1 2 3 4 are roughly the same thing

[royal sinew]

its basically saying
"ok this swimming pool gives you 5$ every time you cross while swimming and every time it gets harder"
"the first time though you have a lifeguard with you"

[rustic wave]

just getting a tiny bit harder each time and thats it

[vital sail]

everything is going to be well and fun if they add more prestiges

[knotty musk]

like unlocking stuff, task milestones, trader rep etc

[knotty musk]

and then theyll just reduce the requirements for the current ones

[vital sail]

butch

What did you get prestige 6 for

[ember forum]

reworked hw ?

[acoustic otter]

i mean kappa should just be a min requirement for all of them

[vagrant nova]

shut up butch

[royal sinew]

if they pull that move again im just gonna wait to prestige every time until new ones come out

[ember forum]

how*

ideally

[rustic wave]

my opinion still stands on perfect mediator for the first 1-2 prestiges

instead of kappa

[knotty musk]

rare achievement flex, rare profile badge, permanent rewards, an actual goal

[vital sail]

You still have all of those

[ember forum]

im still sad that the other menu backgrounds casue lag

[vital sail]

now for the people that got p1-4 before the update

and no more

[knotty musk]

except prestige 1-4 achievements and rewards are now way more common

[rustic wave]

not that rare. with current prestige system its 2 kappas to get p6, back then it was 6 kappas

[acoustic otter]

exclusivity is the point

[royal sinew]

with no valid reason btw

[jaunty geyser]

I just want ammo on flea again.

[rustic wave]

wdym

[ember forum]

jesus H christ

[acoustic otter]

prestige is less exclusive now

[vital sail]

easing new players into grinding it out

They get rewarded bit by bit

[royal sinew]

that's a fucking horrible reason

[knotty musk]

honor

[royal sinew]

why would new players want to reset

[jaunty geyser]

Ah yes, I love to only be able to buy 3 mags of CBJ every 2 hours

[knotty musk]

do you realise how brainless prestiging is now

[acoustic otter]

fuck the new players man

[ember forum]

so you used to gotta do like 1200 tasks or so total 💀

[lyric abyss]

ts is ragebait im going to go do yoga

[royal sinew]

2nd best .300 in the game btw (start buying packs)

[knotty musk]

someone was trying to prestige the other day without even ever playing labs

[ember forum]

holy anti-grass-touching Batman

[vagrant nova]

honor fr ragebaited yall