pve-chat

[jaunty notch]

as an aerospace guy, murphys law is king. maybe not applicable in day to day life literally, but a good philosophy to keep you humbled fasho

[marsh wing]

anyone wanna make a book with me called, "Heat Rises" It will be about a boy who crash lands in the arctic with only a small axe

[cosmic patrol]

Depends on the circumstances yeah. Not applicable 24/7 for sure.

[tropic cobalt]

so hatchet kinda?

[cosmic patrol]

its hammer time

[azure rivet]

Can the axe be comically small?

[marsh wing]

yeah, i guess you could call the axe a Hatchet if you want

[cosmic patrol]

so... the plot of the forest but in the arctic?

[tropic cobalt]

no boy the book called Hatchet 😭

[cosmic patrol]

without the kid and all that.

[azure rivet]

Wasn't there an actual book called Hatchet where a boy lands on an island with nothing but a hatchet? Memory may be foggy, it's been like....25 years

[marsh wing]

no an arctic forest would be a tundra or taiga. I'm talking about his plane crash lands in the arctic next to an L shaped lake

[tropic cobalt]

yes

[cosmic patrol]

could be. idk, i aint read books for.... years

[tropic cobalt]

it’s a series and there’s five books p sure

[cosmic patrol]

the last book i read was 4 years ago about time management.

[azure rivet]

Thanks, I'd already typed when I saw you said it lol. Glad I'm not just making up memories

[marsh wing]

maybe even a porcupine shows up

[tropic cobalt]

armadillo

[cosmic patrol]

a talking troll too

[marsh wing]

maybe he has to dive into the lake to gather some supplies from the wreckage of the plane

[vocal iris]

Is it just me or does the Golden Egg spawn almost every raid on factory on top of the cardboard box near Cellars? Right at the pillar where the harry potter platform 9 3/4 reference is

[tropic cobalt]

and yeah was a huge throwback lol

[cosmic patrol]

imma go do some sudoku. @spiral pecan get unscared of women

[marsh wing]

Ohh! and maybe the reason he is on the plane is because he is going to see his dad because his parents got a divorce but the pilot has a heart attack!

[spiral pecan]

[azure rivet]

This plot sounds tried and true 😂

[marsh wing]

please, tell me someone got the fact that i was gaslighting

[tropic cobalt]

a mimir

[marsh wing]

you know what, no arctic, he can just land in canada

[tropic cobalt]

yup that’s arctic enough for me

[azure rivet]

I was absolutely not following until the heart attack then thought "Wait just a damn minute"

[marsh wing]

THERE IS LITERALLY A PORCUPINE IN THE BOOK

[tropic cobalt]

no armadillo

[azure rivet]

IT HAS BEEN A LITERAL LIFETIME

[marsh wing]

NUH UH

"Throughout the summer, Brian learns how to survive on his own in the vast wilderness, with nothing but his windbreaker and a hatchet – a gift his mother gave him shortly before his plane departed. He discovers how to prepare a fire with the hatchet, and eats whatever food he can find, from rabbits and ruffed grouse – which he nicknames “fool-birds” – to turtle eggs, fish and berries. Simultaneously, he deals with many of nature's dangers, including mosquitoes, a porcupine, two huge bears – one of which is a mother with her cubs –, a pack of three wolves, a skunk, a bad-tempered female moose, and even a tornado."

[lethal garnet]

what

[cosmic patrol]

bro prolly got placebo. Thinks he wrote it but he pulled it out his memory

[tropic cobalt]

i think i was reading that book in like middle or elementary school idr

[marsh wing]

I WAS TOO BRO

[lethal garnet]

why is this chat never normal at all ever

[tropic cobalt]

i didnt even finish it idr where the book went

[azure rivet]

Pretty sure it was 5th grade for me. Many moons have passed

[vocal iris]

Scavved into Factory, immediately found it first try. I think it's like a guaranteed spawn or something.

[marsh wing]

This is better than us all fighting

[marsh wing]

me when im stuck in the bottom of the porta potty

Thank you mods for fixing Slow Mode. I will now vanish until morning

[tropic cobalt]

dung eater moment

[forest patio]

dont you love forgetting where you spawned an going mia because you ran to the wrong extract and were to heavy to get to the other one

i need to sart carrying rubles i guess

[jaunty stream]

[worthy otter]

That's why you can check your extracts

[tropic cobalt]

yeah that’s why i spam extract check lol

[azure rivet]

I say "Surely the car extract is there" and then it isn't and I'm fucked lol

[jaunty stream]

And carry a mule or obdolb 2 with some SJ6s and propitals

[marsh wing]

Once you get to the level where you can buy a docs case, start carrying one in your secure container. I keep 100k in my secure at all times

[jaunty stream]

Finally the chat is back on eft topic

[marsh wing]

i actually have a card holder in my docs case that i keep my money in

[final pawn]

too real

I bring a flare gun tho

[forest patio]

it was 4 minutes made it to nakatami and realized oh fuck and ran but had to drop all my loot. still didnt make it

[jaunty stream]

[marsh wing]

Flare gun can go in your special slot, its like 5% heavier than a flare, and its so much easier to use

[forest patio]

if i hadnt gotten in a fight with a scav i prob would have

[marsh wing]

hol up, ill send screenshot of what i bring into raids

[azure rivet]

I try to keep a green flare in a special slot, but every time I really need it, turns out I forgot to replace it

[forest patio]

i dont have any of either flare items nor do i think im leveled for it lol

[jaunty stream]

I don't even bother with flares

[marsh wing]

you should have gotten a flare gun for free at some point...

[jaunty stream]

Double surv and paracord

[tropic cobalt]

what lvl are you

[forest patio]

i must not have reached that some point

[final pawn]

I play customs and interchange so flare is nice

[forest patio]

just hit 14

[final pawn]

saved me on streets and woods too

[tropic cobalt]

oh okay

[jaunty stream]

Saved?

[tropic cobalt]

makes sense

[jaunty stream]

Not having a plan is crazy work ngl

[forest patio]

im getting closer to 15 but still no

[azure rivet]

I like the flare on Customs. Gas not up? Didn't need you anyway, flakey ass extract

[final pawn]

I try to mash in as many quests as I can

[forest patio]

i always used tunnel lol

[final pawn]

not so much anymore

[marsh wing]

You can get one from putting a Domontovich Ushanka hat in CC for the first time, there is a barter at Jaeger LL3, and you can buy one from Ref LL2

[forest patio]

i am ll1 on every single ine

[tropic cobalt]

i didn’t know the ushanka thing kinda goated

[forest patio]

dont have jaeger either

[marsh wing]

do you have Cultist Circle unlocked?

[forest patio]

also whats cc?

[manic pewter]

tbf, planning only gets you so far, one engagement and it could be derailed based on what it is you come across

[forest patio]

oh no i dont have shit in my hideout

[manic pewter]

cultist circle

[marsh wing]

you dont have a ZiD SP-81 in your stash?

[jaunty stream]

If one engagement derails the whole raid you are inefficient and wasting time on watching the scavs walk past

[forest patio]

nope

[marsh wing]

i think i got my first one from a code.... I did have a red flare cartridge

[azure rivet]

Imagine getting shot inefficiently.

[manic pewter]

depends who it is, for you itll be a breeze, but others arent as good at the game so they use more time

[jaunty stream]

That's why you plan

[final pawn]

I know right. Fking PVE noobs this shit is so serious

[manic pewter]

yeah, and a plan only goes so far, there isnt a point in debating that

[distant obsidian]

Thats way to much to ask from some

[jaunty stream]

Apparently

[manic pewter]

you dont plan on facing glukhar when you go for a multi quest completion reserve

[azure rivet]

Dude has never once walked into a raid and it not go exactly his way. John Tarkov prays to him. And probably not effieciently enough.

[solemn marsh]

Love these game freezes, glad they are local games and it resets like it never happened

[marsh wing]

well you arent missing out on much. Once you unlock Jaeger, you can buy a green flare for 6K RUB, and it can go in your special slot and you can bind it to a number key

[manic pewter]

you might expect him to be there, but you dont plan to face him

[tropic cobalt]

usually my plans go wrong bc of my own stupidity like me forgetting something rather than finding myself in a lot of conflict that derails everything

[manic pewter]

a plan only survives till first contact

[jaunty stream]

He can be on like 65% of the map and has a stupid spawn rate, you should always plan to face him

[final pawn]

Hear me out. What if somebody planned for getting their raid fucked up so they did something revolutionary and brought a flare gun just in case 😯

[tropic cobalt]

mind blown kabooommm

[manic pewter]

its illegal to have a crutch you see, to the gallows

[final pawn]

real I still get lost sometimes for a minute

[marsh wing]

#screenshots message
This is some of the stuff that i bring into every raid. Ignore the random keys and USD

[azure rivet]

Planning to possibly need a thing, instead of definitely need it? Just uninstall at that point

[forest patio]

im just trying to play the game and learn at my own rate tbh. i dont have shit because i only do SOME side tasks because i get uncomfortable risking everythinng in a new area so i dont go without someone else

[marsh wing]

WAIT. i CAN BUY RED FLARES FROM REF

[cosmic patrol]

yahhoo

[jaunty stream]

Move the money into sicc and remove the docs case no?

[manic pewter]

not worth

[forest patio]

so i play certain maps and chill and make mistakes kike a normal person

[final pawn]

planning ≠ preparedness but anyways

[manic pewter]

not all items go in the sicc

[forest patio]

like

[agile tinsel]

its how we all learned lol. just keep at it. it gets better

[jaunty stream]

Didn't say it did

[marsh wing]

i dont really fight for space in secure, and yeah, only certain things go in each container

[indigo knoll]

is the new black keycard office worth hitting? Cause ik you use one use for door and another for safe

[manic pewter]

nor did i imply that, but thats why people bring a docs case aswell

[marsh wing]

like, i can only put diaries and SAS into the docs case

[jaunty stream]

Maps, ssd, Intel and blue folders

[azure rivet]

It's weird to be playing PVE focused on maximum efficiency with the most optimal questline progression pulled up on the wiki next to you.

[marsh wing]

and posters

[agile tinsel]

keys

[jaunty stream]

posters go in sicc

[final pawn]

hell yeah. In the nicest way possible go die a couple times and just have good old fun learning something new about the maps or enemies each time

[marsh wing]

they can go in both

[tropic cobalt]

wanted to get hype one time so used the gym in hideout then realized my mistake when i was exhausted and dehydrated like ten mins into raid :/

[forest patio]

i havent even followed the actual questline tbh i just do side missions and if a person i join takes me to a new place the story progresses naturally lol

[final pawn]

ok but how many broken arms have we had

[forest patio]

usually i have zero idea what i did to progress

[manic pewter]

dont get me wrong, ill probably always plan and have the wiki next to me for quests, but planning for 100% of a raid takes longer than the raid itself and is a huge fucking waste of time

[fervent peak]

Fractured arm or it didn't happen

[manic pewter]

best plans are those that have room for improvisation

[azure rivet]

The best plans for me are the ones that are fun lol

[final pawn]

100%, I listen to podcasts and shit when I play solo lol

[vocal iris]

16 cordura, 7 ripstop, 5 fleece, 10 aramid. god tier ragman weekly

[fervent peak]

One chunk at a time

[azure rivet]

What's the reward?

[tropic cobalt]

mfw i hear AAGGGHHHH and my workout immediately stops

[final pawn]

[vocal iris]

237k XP, 613k, 2 thermometer, toolset, face shields, .63 light vests .05 rep

[forest patio]

you shit during your raids?

[manic pewter]

ill at most put music on my ear on home stretch tbh, usually because i tend to be the person who hears shit first when playing in a group

[forest patio]

talk about efficient

[vocal iris]

elite crafting makes it ez

[azure rivet]

Hell yeah.

[final pawn]

Yeah im not allowed to get up from my 12 hour PVE tarkov shift so

[tropic cobalt]

do you have double tubes connecting to a bucket

[forest patio]

understandable, thank you for your service

[final pawn]

ah you know of the battle bucket

[forest patio]

one must not acknowledge the bucket

[azure rivet]

I knew the Colonel had moved to EFT

[final pawn]

I need to kill 30 things for btr but that feels so boring

[forest patio]

i barely kill 20

[final pawn]

feeling like john lennons hit song imagine

[pseudo kayak]

what even is the point of the jailbrake mod? to blind you?

[forest patio]

idek what you just said

[final pawn]

LOL

[pseudo kayak]

muzzle attachment that reduces recoil by quite a bit

[final pawn]

yes it makes the bots blind too

[forest patio]

oh to do that then

and dead

effectively

[final pawn]

you mean efficiently, right? everything is about efficiency.

[forest patio]

no im quite deficient to be thinking such smart words

[tropic cobalt]

same bestie

[azure rivet]

Every time Decontamination Service pops up in the quest log, I die a little more inside

[uneven vapor]

I thought the event was over?

[pseudo kayak]

where do i even go to complete calibration? customs? reserve?

[tropic cobalt]

no bsg forgets everything

[final pawn]

I don't know shit about fuck

[uneven vapor]

Okay I was like tweaking when I heard a duck on interchange

[little willow]

how do you do secured perimeter on pve bro

[final pawn]

VERY PAINFULLY

[little willow]

ts sum impossible shit

[uneven vapor]

May actually go and do em now ig

[tropic cobalt]

could end probably any day so yeah

[pseudo kayak]

run and reset until they either move into office or spawn there

[azure rivet]

Run laps through gunfire and hope some PMCs chase you in lol. All I could really do

[marsh wing]

no way, ducks is really still going?

[final pawn]

It took me like 20+ raids of sitting and waiting in the offices and I would spam yell and chuck nades around to make noise and draw attention. Kill tagilla 20 times

[marsh wing]

it took like 2 weks for xmas to end for us

[tropic cobalt]

yes evil ducks are still here

[final pawn]

I still havet done the duck shooting

[marsh wing]

might farm interchange tomorrow for helm then...

i need money for stash 4

[azure rivet]

I stayed up until 2:30am killing those ducks. Was pissed when I found out I could have just resumed duck hunting at a reasonable hour

[marsh wing]

@jaunty stream i usually run 2x SJ6, 1x Prop, 2x 2A2, but i usually refill after my raids

[jaunty stream]

@marsh wing #screenshots , That's pretty much what I run, pretty much anything under 30kg mostly

[fervent peak]

Too bad we can't acquire more than 2 ducks at a time

[marsh wing]

no weapon weight?

[jaunty stream]

Yeh always refill, I'm doing immunity stuff so 2A2 is good

[jaunty stream]

wdym?

[marsh wing]

your load is light af

[jaunty stream]

Correct

[marsh wing]

i have no nades and im at 35.6

[forest patio]

me: cries in poor

[crimson meteor]

im gonna fall asleep doing return the favor this quest is so ass

[distant obsidian]

that looks like exactly what I use, differ stims though

ulach myself

[vocal iris]

Milk, Propitol, Obdolbos 2, 2A2, Meldonin, SJ12, SJ6 is my start of raid cocktail

[jaunty stream]

I have max metabolism, so SJ12 is a last ditch thing

[final pawn]

id wear a deathshadow if it didnt get in the way of my super sexy moustache

[fervent peak]

3x propital, 1x etg/Trim/SJ6/mule/SJ12/Blueblood, second case has 2x SJ6/trim combo, 2x zag/etg, 1x propital

[vocal iris]

Me too

[marsh wing]

#screenshots message
Not my normal kit, usually a NL545 with 2 extra mags and stack of ammo

[vocal iris]

Just less worrying about all the drain for the first ten min

[gentle pulsar]

based either way
that SIG is mad ugly

[marsh wing]

so you have the max skill that makes your weapon not weigh anything basically?

[jaunty stream]

No

[forest patio]

literally waiting on my osprey to come back in insurance but that will be tomorrow morning lmao

[crimson meteor]

what level is the neosteel attachment?

[jaunty stream]

I have 24 strength lol

[distant obsidian]

#screenshots my genreal kit when I have a bag

[jaunty stream]

what level?

[marsh wing]

so how is your weight so low?

[crimson meteor]

yeah armor level

[jaunty stream]

3 jaw and throat

[crimson meteor]

ah i just use the ronin respirator

[marsh wing]

i got mine from max ref. Its class 3 throar, jaws, ears, face

[jaunty stream]

No eye protection

It's why I don't run it anymore cuz I've been eyed twice using it

[distant obsidian]

LOL

[jaunty stream]

[distant obsidian]

ulach deathshadow bby

[vocal iris]

I hit elite Strength, Endurance, Perception, and Attention with my combo which is amazing for instant looting

[marsh wing]

@jaunty stream what plates you use?

[jaunty stream]

4sss2

[clever thunder]

anyone seen goons recently

[jaunty stream]

and a back 3s15m

[marsh wing]

thats why. I have a kiba and cult lol

[distant obsidian]

samey

[crimson meteor]

shoreline

[distant obsidian]

4sss2 and a 3s in the back

[jaunty stream]

also running Rebel over the sword which is like half its weight

[distant obsidian]

I do use side plates though

[jaunty stream]

Osprey is awfully heavy, not even worth running over the 6B45

[distant obsidian]

mhm

[forest patio]

i no have that

[vocal iris]

Hitting green weight at like 49kg is funny

[jaunty stream]

• Osprey has like hardly no throat points unlike the 6B45

[distant obsidian]

if I take the side plates out I am 26kg

[final pawn]

people weep when they see my drip in #screenshots

[jaunty stream]

Mechanism is peak bag with little to no downsides + less then 1kg

[tropic cobalt]

nice skirt

[distant obsidian]

wow, docs case is surprisingly heavy

[jaunty stream]

Lemme find my terminator ahh drip

[final pawn]

its a kilt

[marsh wing]

im too loyal to my osprey to move away now

i like the space it has

gotten too used to it too

[distant obsidian]

you might as well use a cpc over ospray then

[pseudo kayak]

what a shame the best ammo you can buy for 5.56 is stopped at 6a1

[distant obsidian]

ospray is just a early game rig you drop sooner then later

[marsh wing]

cpc has no neck

[tropic cobalt]

flaunting them legs like a tarkov prostitute smh indecent

[distant obsidian]

ospray has 9 dura neck, its not helping

[forest patio]

super indecent

[final pawn]

I put roubles on the table in this family

[spiral pecan]

i used the gen4 hmk or assault

[distant obsidian]

I will use my assault when I want arms

[marsh wing]

so i move from Osprey and t30, get the 6b45 and a bigger bag?

[fervent peak]

You're lucky if the neck armor even blocks regular buck shot

[distant obsidian]

trooper or mechanism

[spiral pecan]

when neck taps were frequent. buying a cqc opsrey every time that durability goes down is so annoying

as of rn neck taps are pretty rare

[fervent peak]

Really wish they gave us some kind of option to replace the built in neck armor outside of raid

[distant obsidian]

yeah cpc is fine is pve atm

or tactec

[crimson meteor]

omg im so tilted i killed partisan and forgot there was a tripwire under stuhrman stash and i died unlocking it

[fervent peak]

oooof

[soft lantern]

??code

[quasi apex]

Redeem your goodies → https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/promo/activate (Or launcher → your name → activate code)
SBEUKOMAR | SCAVYBOI | GOONSQUAD | LIGHTSOUT | PAY2WIN | ELVISVISTA | INEEDSPACE | SHKREKDIVISION | SAMURAI

[crimson meteor]

thats a good sign to go to bed lol

[distant obsidian]

[spiral pecan]

but then you'd literally never have to replace a rig

[marsh wing]

i mean, is there anything wrong with that?

i can understand both sides

[azure rivet]

Could just sell the soft kevlar as well

[marsh wing]

wanting to swap out broken pieces in a rig you use compared to just replacing the rig all together

it would ultimately depend on pricing of what it would cost to fix the broken parts

[spiral pecan]

we need more moneysinks in pve tbh

and oh my god i hate this flea lock bullshit

[marsh wing]

but then you go down the line with Ship of Theseus

[jaunty stream]

It just wouldn't make sense

[marsh wing]

if i replace every piece of kevlar in my rig until no original kevlar remains, is it still the same rig? Or a new one entirely?

[gaunt crown]

Dang... i waited too long to do the Duckov event i guess... If it ends tonight then I dont' have time to finish.

[marsh wing]

they could make it make sense if they wanted to. But i understand why they wont bother

[azure rivet]

I hate the flea lock, but significantly less than I hate FIR for hideout parts

[jaunty stream]

Didn't it end like 2 days ago or something

[marsh wing]

its like xmas all over again

[gaunt crown]

Yesterday at 4EST

[gusty reef]

The humble 500m rouble prapor ending

[spiral pecan]

one of the worst endings

[marsh wing]

apparently it's still running

[jaunty stream]

Well flea would break around rigs because people would stop buying them if they had a couple and would replace the armor every time

[gaunt crown]

it is, but now i'm worried it will actually end soon since it was supposed to end yesterday at 4AM EST

[marsh wing]

keep in mind, it took them 2 WEEKS to remove PVE xmas tree

[gaunt crown]

I'm about to go to bed and i've still got 4 maps to clear 🙁

[azure rivet]

If it doesn't end soon, you'll be mad you didn't try. Might as well go down swinging.

[gaunt crown]

that's true... if it's still here tomorrow imma finish it. if not then oh well

[gusty reef]

The* worst ending

[jaunty stream]

Only thing you will miss is a duck figure

[distant obsidian]

survivor is not the worst lol

[marsh wing]

wait, before you leave

[distant obsidian]

its the second best lol

[marsh wing]

buy 5 pate and put them in the CC

[gaunt crown]

there are other rewards too from what i hear

[marsh wing]

do it now

[gaunt crown]

I can't lol. It's 10PM and I got work in the AM.

[marsh wing]

you get a duck fig, a poster, achievement, and 4 levels of perception

[azure rivet]

Not having to hear the ducks anymore is the biggest reward I could have imagined

[marsh wing]

waht do you mean you cant? It takes 5 seconds

[gaunt crown]

I still have 4 maps to clear...

[distant obsidian]

you dont hear them after you kill them

[marsh wing]

no dude

[jaunty stream]

For putting 5 pate in the cc?

[azure rivet]

That would be what I said, yes

[marsh wing]

put 5 Pate, from flea, in your cultist circle

[marsh wing]

no those are quest rewards, i thought he was talk about quest and not CC

if you put 5 pate in your CC you get a duck fig

[gaunt crown]

I am talking about the quest. I still have to kill a bunch of ducks.

[jaunty stream]

Oh

[marsh wing]

screw the quest, if your CC is empty, put Pate in it

[jaunty stream]

Do it another time

[gaunt crown]

Ah, sadly it's not. I've been trying to get the damned Tank battery since they don't exist in raid for me

[gusty reef]

It's so boring gang you literally just do like 4 fetch quests and then farm until you get 300m and boom you can leave

the other endings have substance at least

[jaunty stream]

Pate isn't leaving

[marsh wing]

true

[pallid merlin]

did they extend duckhunt?

[marsh wing]

no

[crimson meteor]

i still find ornaments sometimes

[gaunt crown]

Not officially, but it's still here

[marsh wing]

they just suck at removing our events

[pallid merlin]

IO though tit was suposed to end 24th

[jaunty stream]

I'm offski, running a marathon tomorrow

[gaunt crown]

k byyeeeeeee

[distant obsidian]

that is the point. Your just getting out

[sturdy phoenix]

Hi friends. Do you get passive endurance levels from Gym?

[distant obsidian]

your also not someones bitch

[marsh wing]

it was. Our xmas event was also supposed to end 2 weeks before they finally took it away

[marsh wing]

by using the gym or just having it built?

[sturdy phoenix]

Just having it, thought I saw someone say that

[gusty reef]

I think we have a minor minunderstanding where when I say it's the worst ending

I mean the least interesting and absolutely least engaging one, not the worst in terms of the story of it

[distant obsidian]

if you use it yes

[marsh wing]

no, you ahve to use it

[distant obsidian]

o

then yeah

[crimson meteor]

you can use other players gyms if you visit their hideout

[gusty reef]

I'm literally just doing it rn to get it over with and then I'm wiping my account and doing savior for fun

[sturdy phoenix]

Also, I've been in pve all wipe but my endurance is like the same level in pvp, which I barely played. Anyone have any ideas why?

[distant obsidian]

arena

or your jsut always over weight

[azure rivet]

Are you constantly overweight?

[sturdy phoenix]

Wait, arena buffs my stats in pvp and pve?

[distant obsidian]

of course. why wouldnt it

[pseudo kayak]

@spiral pecan is it just every gun like the m4 you gave me kicks like a rabid dog past 5x zoom

[sturdy phoenix]

I assumed it was completely seperate

[uneven vapor]

Because why would a company ever combine progress between two completely different games

[distant obsidian]

well yes. You have to kneel and take a shooting position

[uneven vapor]

That would be ill

[manic pewter]

to sell the other game

[distant obsidian]

[uneven vapor]

Ik it was sarcasm

[pseudo kayak]

okay ig im so brainrotted from using like the sks and stuff like that

[distant obsidian]

what do other games have to do with tarkov

oooo ok

[sturdy phoenix]

I would never have guessed it'd give me stats in main game

[marsh wing]

it tells you in Arena that it carries over to a certain extent

[spiral pecan]

ur gonna need a REALLY low recoil for it not to kick when that zoomed in

[marsh wing]

it only carries up to level 30 iirc

[distant obsidian]

arena caps at 30

[marsh wing]

thats what it was

[manic pewter]

@pseudo kayak want another Model 1 build?

[sturdy phoenix]

level 30 is pretty high haha. I highly doubt I'll get anything elite honestly. Maybe metabolism

[spiral pecan]

model 1 is MID

[marsh wing]

i didnt know i could use partial sugar's for moonshine...

[distant obsidian]

mhm

[sturdy phoenix]

I heard model 1 was incredible. I haven't tried it yet

[marsh wing]

i thought they had to be full lol

[distant obsidian]

model 1 is good

[manic pewter]

its not worth its price on flea

[distant obsidian]

just a better m4 when built

[marsh wing]

only in arena. Too many better guns in EFT

[pseudo kayak]

yeah dw im just brainrotted

[manic pewter]

but worth the GP coins if you have it

[marsh wing]

my gp are going to a plates case next

[sturdy phoenix]

I have a hard time beating the sr-25 in main game. Is that weird?

[gusty reef]

I nees to get back into arena and actually max my battle pass

[distant obsidian]

m4 is probably the best gun in tarkov. model 1 is better then that

[sturdy phoenix]

Anyone know when the next season of arena is?

[uneven vapor]

I hate 5.56 but I love 5.56

[marsh wing]

Sometime in march. Thats all we know

[sturdy phoenix]

More than I knew, thank you

[pseudo kayak]

which is a damn shame you cant buy anything higher than 56a1, only craft

[manic pewter]

60 ergo and 45 vertical is what i run usually with this build, probably exists better but

[marsh wing]

they told us that the new season would be in an update before April

[spiral pecan]

until you have to pay 2 million for a ripped apart version of it

[distant obsidian]

I dont use the lower

guns burn out to quick. But meta upper

and charging handle

[spiral pecan]

i dont use either out of spite. the marginal difference does nothing its literally an m4

[distant obsidian]

no reason not to use the better parts

[spiral pecan]

looks

[distant obsidian]

not like they dont just come back if you die

looks? the upper is the same look as all the others. Same with the handle

[pseudo kayak]

i only use the model 1 bc i have access to it (got it finally) and idk wanted to try

[distant obsidian]

the upper actually fits the SAI well as it blends in

[marsh wing]

ive decided that im going to use the Velociraptor. Any tips? ||im only going to use it on customs||

[distant obsidian]

the gen and ax dont fit as well with the sai

[manic pewter]

like i said, i can post my build for it if you want one

[uneven vapor]

You are supposed to use the receiver w/ the gen 3 upper stil, no?

[distant obsidian]

not if you have the model 1 uppder

[uneven vapor]

Isnt that just recoil

[distant obsidian]

also ax and gen are interchangeable

[uneven vapor]

But less erg

[distant obsidian]

you dont need ergo on the m4 as you get boat load of it everywhere

mid 60s is perfect for an m4

[pseudo kayak]

i think ima listen to tyreal and just use the m4 atp 😭 seems like a waste but if you post it i would not mind at all, if you do please show m4 too

[distant obsidian]

I mean let me log in and post two builds.

[manic pewter]

i dont really use M4s, because i can just buy Model 1s with GP coins every now and again i just do that

[marsh wing]

Tyreall, NL545 or Model 1

[distant obsidian]

one a little more ergo, one a litlle more recoil

[marsh wing]

ive been wanting to try it out, just havent yet

[distant obsidian]

gun alone? model 1

[spiral pecan]

2 completely different things

[marsh wing]

all together

[distant obsidian]

but 545 is a better round so its about even

[uneven vapor]

Idk I cant bring myself to use the 545

I just hate that ammo

[spiral pecan]

literally so fucking easy to stockpile a metric shit ton of high tier 545

[uneven vapor]

I feel like EVERY time I use it people just eat that shit up

[marsh wing]

bro, my stockpile is huge

[forest patio]

WHERE DO I FIND MONEY BEST IN GZ

[spiral pecan]

556 platforms are great and perform better so those are better later on

[forest patio]

sorry caps lock

[distant obsidian]

2 m4s posted in #weapon-modding

I use the more recoild focused one because I like hte look of the stock. But the MOE m4 is def better

[pseudo kayak]

okay ill take ur build for the mode l1

[spiral pecan]

i have like 16000 rounds of BT from reshy farming and thousands of the others

[distant obsidian]

the MOE m4 is good with 60s as well. I wouldnt use the first photo m4 with 60s

[marsh wing]

#screenshots message
This is my 545 stockpile

[manic pewter]

its quite good and at some point you can just replace the Model 1 lower with a M4A1 lower and you have a fresh gun almost as good

[pseudo kayak]

i like using drums btw

[distant obsidian]

I dont keep any ammo under 40 pen

[marsh wing]

uhh, safe's around the map. But you'll probably get more for just looting PMC's kits and extracting

[distant obsidian]

I also only keep 7n40 and iggy for 545

[spiral pecan]

what about bp

[forest patio]

no i need money

[distant obsidian]

you dont, go top other maps

[pseudo kayak]

weird how we can buy 7n40 but not the next step up in pen for 5.56

[forest patio]

for the extract

[distant obsidian]

o I do keep some bs for 545

[manic pewter]

youll get about 45 ergo with a 60rd casket which is good enough

[distant obsidian]

cause you can craft 5a1 at level 35.

[marsh wing]

oh, good luck bro. Maybe go check the liquour store or go to flare extract

[distant obsidian]

so unlock it and you will have thousands of rounds before you ever get 7n40

[marsh wing]

flare extract has a free flare on the body on ground

[distant obsidian]

you play other maps

GZ is shit for money unless your lvl 40, then is still bad

[marsh wing]

he need the money for taxi, he is on the map now

[forest patio]

can you stop lmao

[spiral pecan]

what did he do

[marsh wing]

aight, no more help from me bro

[distant obsidian]

loot scav or just go extract at a real extract

bring money in and go use the car

[spiral pecan]

lord forbid someone give you advice

everyone here spites trye anal

[distant obsidian]

this fucking guy cant type why he needs money in 1 post

he took 2 mins and 3 posats to say he needs it for extract

like type it from the start ffs

[marsh wing]

true, i gave him advice, then he corrected me to say he needed it while in raid :/

[distant obsidian]

anyways, back to m4s

[pseudo kayak]

crafting takes so long 🙁

[distant obsidian]

yeah, model 1 upper and charging handle

[uneven vapor]

I just unlocked the Mod 4 so that will be the only gun I use for forseeable future

[distant obsidian]

its passive. you set a craft anfd go raid.

[marsh wing]

no lets go off topic again, the alcohol is hitting

im jk, im actually going to bed

[distant obsidian]

then after a week or so you have 2k rounds and you can start using it and keep crafting

[manic pewter]

ill probably use a Mod 4 for Labrys

[distant obsidian]

took me about 3 weeks of crafting to get 7k. I dont even craft it anymore

[uneven vapor]

VAL was always my fav gun

[distant obsidian]

like jsut keep crafting until you have a stock pile

[pseudo kayak]

okay so i need to get off my brainrot bc zoomed in full auto will always be evil

[orchid raptor]

ive been slacking on my main story quests ever since i finished tour i gotta get going

[uneven vapor]

They made a moddable version of it, and THEN they buffed it

[distant obsidian]

dont use 90 rounds every time it finishes lol

[orchid raptor]

falling skies is the next chapter right?

[uneven vapor]

Like????? Forsure I am using that shit

[marsh wing]

try telling me that when im freaking out while a boss and 12 scavs rush me

[distant obsidian]

im not even going to bother to unlock it

[distant obsidian]

I mean dont take your new 90 rounds of 5a1 into a raid right away

wait a few weeks

[uneven vapor]

I did it on 2 lightouse raids and 1 interchange

[toxic sail]

my game just decided to crash after i was almost done with a shoreline raid with 7+ quests done/in process of finishing. love tarkov

[marsh wing]

i turned the corner the other day and legit saw 6 scavs standing there, i screamed and ran back inside

[orchid raptor]

when i get my hands on the armored case do i give it to prapor or keep it?

[distant obsidian]

keep

[manic pewter]

quest wasnt too bad actually according to a buddy of mine

[uneven vapor]

Fuck Prapor

[marsh wing]

discard it

[distant obsidian]

saves you time doing dumb shit later to get it back

also yes, fuck prapor

[manic pewter]

saves you money too no?

[distant obsidian]

its not, but I will never use it

[manic pewter]

fair

[distant obsidian]

I unlocked all the guns in beta, I am not bothering this time around cause I know what I want

[manic pewter]

ill see what i do for terminal, probably the Model 1 tbh

[distant obsidian]

dont care for the mod4 or ak50

or gen2 aa12\

ill probalby use the MDR

[pallid merlin]

marlin count towards ShooterBorn?

[distant obsidian]

yes

[pallid merlin]

thats insane

[uneven vapor]

Marlin > All bolt actions

[manic pewter]

AA-12 is so ass bruh, dont think ive ever used a worse shotgun in tarkov besides the meme options

[distant obsidian]

lol no

marlin is a terrible sniper

it just makies bolt quests easier. I never used it once

[uneven vapor]

Nah I fucked shit up with that gun

[distant obsidian]

i mean cool, doesnt mean its a good sniper

[manic pewter]

marlin makes bolt quests less boring

[distant obsidian]

if you like it yes

[manic pewter]

id pick a M700 over it any day of the week though

[distant obsidian]

I like bolts and I like sniping. So m700 and sako for me

[still nest]

Its good for aggro sniping

[indigo knoll]

where is the guaranteed spawn inside old house for tank battery

[uneven vapor]

I havent done SAKO yet

[distant obsidian]

yes

[still nest]

But it loses out at the longer ranges

[manic pewter]

id love a TRG

[distant obsidian]

batheroom locked room

[still nest]

Weaker bullets has it struggling pretty hard

[manic pewter]

gotta get me a AXMC too

[still nest]

Lever action sits in a nice spot atm

[indigo knoll]

i have both open, i cant find it a

[distant obsidian]

there are 3

the single use key room

[indigo knoll]

are u sure its guaranteed?

i opened the locked room

[distant obsidian]

yes, its why its a single use key you can only get from the CC

there are 2 locked rooms in teh same building

[indigo knoll]

oh lmao i have the 10 use key

[distant obsidian]

2 different keys

[indigo knoll]

how do U get the single use key

[distant obsidian]

CC craft

put a tank bat in it

[manic pewter]

yeah im 100% using Mod 4 on labrys

34VR and 900RPM

combined with BP, thats a monster

[violet plaza]

is there a bug for they are already here? my brother has the quest for it but he never picked up the note and he cant find the note or the audio tape and cant progress

[distant obsidian]

isnt bp shit for mod4

[violet plaza]

i just use SP-6 for the mod4 since you can just buy it

[still nest]

What part is he on?

[violet plaza]

like the very beginning

[distant obsidian]

o bp is the good one

[still nest]

He already picked up the note about the eye of the world?

[violet plaza]

no he hasnt yet, the note doesnt spawn anymore for him tho

[still nest]

But the quest has started?

[violet plaza]

yea

[still nest]

Make sure he read it in his handbook

Reading it should have you find a location connected to the eye of the world and thats where you get the tape

[manic pewter]

it says BP increases recoil by 15 but i dont see no number changing in the statcard, unless ofc it doesnt say which probably is the case. regardless of that, itll fucking melt shagilla and killa

[violet plaza]

i made him check but it says he doesnt have the note

[still nest]

If hes on that part look around the cabin its got 4 spawns

[distant obsidian]

it wont show on a stat card like bullet velocity does

[manic pewter]

twas what i thought was the case, regardless. ranges are so low that its like hitting targets in the shooting range

[still nest]

If he's picked it up before and cant find it again then he needs to read it in his handbook

[manic pewter]

a buddy of mine brought the mod 4 to labrynth and iirc killed shagilla in like 3 or 4 hits

didnt even fully break his mask either

[distant obsidian]

over 50 pen

you dont need to zero it out

[manic pewter]

i know, but still an impressively low ttk

[spiral pecan]

9x39 bp is so rare tho

[cosmic patrol]

u talking to women.. is it rarer than that

[manic pewter]

i find a fair bit of it on labs, but i keep giving it to my buddy who uses 9x39 way more, so i gotta stop doing that

[thorn token]

still can't believe we have 9x39 gamers

i'm dreading getting around to doing goals and means

[final pawn]

how do you guys like to get the btr tank battery done

[glad nebula]

Woods train depot

[final pawn]

battery and pistol and send it?

[glad nebula]

Honestly I just run train depot until I find it, and BTR it home or just walk it to the nearest exfil/transit

[meager coyote]

I did mine twice on streets

[indigo knoll]

I FOUND LOOT LORD

I HAVE ALL KAPPA ITEMS AT LVL 42 BAHAHA

[manic pewter]

why? whats wrong with 9x39?

[thorn token]

it's not the round itself, it's the guns

[manic pewter]

what about the guns

the Mod 4 is great

[thorn token]

as val and vss are just not that great anymore with the durability system

[indigo knoll]

what's the CC btw

[thorn token]

they jam way too often and burn through durability faster than you can repair them

[orchid raptor]

ledx and violet keycard ACTUALLY spawned off the car door? woods might be goated

[meager coyote]

</3 what did I do?

[manic pewter]

again, use the Mod 4, far less dura burn and its quite cheap too when you do the quest

[thorn token]

yea but being limited to one gun for an ammo type is kind of lame too

limits overall build options

[manic pewter]

you shouldve told the russians that when they made 9x39 then

[thorn token]

this isnt a russian thing

it's a bsg thing

the russians didn't create rifles that jam after half a mag and then throw them into service

[manic pewter]

9x39 is a hyper specialized round that a handful of guns use, infact about every single possible one is in game already

VAL, VSS, SR-3 and some others

[violet plaza]

Thats like 40% of the guns in the game that is not a standard nato or Warsaw ammo type

[violet plaza]

RD-939 when

[thorn token]

and a majority of guns in game use a standard ammo type wouldn't ya know

[violet plaza]

thats how real life works too

[thorn token]

if bsg would lower the dura burn on the 9x39 guns the problem wouldnt be here ngl

[manic pewter]

it sorta isnt BSGs fault that 9x39 guns have very low lifespans irl too

[violet plaza]

its cause they overcorrected when the val was meta

[thorn token]

or at the very least reduce the chance of a malfunction to a lower dura burn

[digital dune]

Durability burn on weapons in general is too much. Losing 10-20% dura a round is pretty intense. Never had to repair my real gun like that.

[thorn token]

i know about that, and they went too far and wont revert it

[manic pewter]

your real gun also has half the MOA tbf, its a balancing choice

[thorn token]

not this low bro

[manic pewter]

i wouldnt be too sure, ill give an example.

do you know the life cycle of a PBS-1

not quite 9x39 but itll get the point across

[thorn token]

i do not

[manic pewter]

200 rounds

thats because it uses a rubber seal to make the gun cycle

[thorn token]

yea but the as val i doubt has a 200 round life cycle, the gun was designed for special operations

i have a hard time believing the soviets put into service a rifle with low durability for special ops teams

guns are one of the few things the soviets were pretty good at designing all things considered

[violet plaza]

meanwhile the british: hold my beer

[manic pewter]

PBS-1

[thorn token]

thats not a whole platform though

[manic pewter]

literally a soviet suppressor with less of a lifecycle than their PKT drums have

[thorn token]

the as val was actually designed for durability, i will counter and say it wasnt made for sustained firing though either

[violet plaza]

no AR is made for sustained fire tho, thats what we call a SAW

[thorn token]

but you cant even use it for it's design in tarkov either with it's durability burn

[pseudo kayak]

@distant obsidian do you always run side plates

[thorn token]

i mean the as val was designed for less sustained fire than an M16 even

[manic pewter]

im trying to find a figure on the exact lifespan, which is seemingly impossible

[violet plaza]

also TBF you have to pump a lot of rounds more than you would IRL than in tarkov, most people dont take 40 bullets to put down

[thorn token]

they're not publicly available unfortunately

[violet plaza]

too bad we have no way of empirically testing it

[thorn token]

i guess they dont want their spec ops gun to be public info on its stats

[wintry cobalt]

man rb-vo is literally the best

i love it so much

[manic pewter]

id love if kalashnikov made a vid on it shooting it till it died like with the 103

but alas, no such thing exists

[violet plaza]

ask a ukrainian who captured one to test it lol

[thorn token]

i looked up the vss though, it's got a lifespan of around 5000 rounds

which is low comparatively, but not so low that it breaks every other mag

[manic pewter]

probably the barrel itself and not the suppressor

[pseudo kayak]

do you run side plates

[manic pewter]

depends

[thorn token]

thats for the barrel and action

so suppressor would be included in that

since it's integral

[manic pewter]

hmm, well

i guess it is a bit of both worlds

bsg being overly harsh on it and it being less durable than other guns

[thorn token]

i'd imagine the as val is similar in durability, since the vss is just an evolution of that

[digital dune]

I though Russian stuff was suppose to be "good". m4 is like 10k rounds

[manic pewter]

9x39 is a special case

[thorn token]

yea, that's really my point is that bsg is overly harsh on the 9x39 guns

[manic pewter]

glad we came to an agreement

[thorn token]

an AK-12 is around 100k rounds bro

[violet plaza]

though TBF russia will never have as good of QA as nato countries since they dont have as large of a network of iteration

[thorn token]

the as val and vss are very niche guns in the russian arsenal

[violet plaza]

isnt the mod4 a fictional gun too?

[thorn token]

russians are very good at making durable, reliable guns with less of a focus on moddability and quality

so less precise, but you can throw a hell of lot more rounds at the other side

[alpine vigil]

i killed birdeye, got his gun and it said it had SSA AP, and then when i extract raid and unload mags, it said M995? wtf

[manic pewter]

seemingly goes for anything they do besides aircraft

[thorn token]

which isn't even a bad tactic all things considered

[manic pewter]

where they are unable to do either nowadays

[thorn token]

yea russian aviation is a whole nother ball game

[digital dune]

Wooden screws is peak.

[manic pewter]

a whole nother layer of being in the shitter

Felon production is chugging along at a miserable rate vs the F-35 which has outproduced it by about 50 times now

[thorn token]

the russians can indeed make good aircraft and it's been proven before even in modern times. but their own military and political corruption stalls out the design and production of these aircraft which then reduces quality since demand needs to be made still

[cosmic patrol]

hello @manic pewter 👋

[manic pewter]

hey

hows the hand, got a nicely formed scar now?

[cosmic patrol]

indeeed

right on the tendon

[manic pewter]

russia have been behind the US by about one step or more since the F-15 was hastily made to counter the steel behemoth that is the MiG-25

[distant obsidian]

I do

but when I was trying to stay under weight I would take them out

[indigo knoll]

Btw what was the key with guaranteed spawn in old house? I forgor what it was called

The single use one

[manic pewter]

bathhouse key or whatever

its the tank battery one

[indigo knoll]

Ye

Can you buy on flea?

[thorn token]

MiG-29 and Su-27 and their evolutions have all been contemporary threats to western aircraft

Have they been better? No

But a threat nonetheless

[distant obsidian]

yeah not since the mig 21s did the russians have the advantage

[thorn token]

When we first got to test out the MiG 29, the F-16 lost to it several times before the F-16 pilot managed to figure it out

[manic pewter]

even then they didnt really have an advantage if youre thinking of it vs phantoms in vietnam

[thorn token]

Russian jets usually excel in the one circle fights but can’t win the sustained rate

[manic pewter]

it was very much a case of phantoms being used as fighter bombers carrying heavy loads being picked off by 21s

[distant obsidian]

o it very much had the advantage. Guided missiles were still fairly ineffective

[manic pewter]

but when they put phantoms in a fighter escort role then suddenly they handed ass to the 21s

[distant obsidian]

naw

late war it got better when they actually put a gun on teh damn thing

[indigo knoll]

Ik what you’re talking about actually, bc aviation history is quite interesting

The F-16 lost because it was testing simulated combat in close quarters, where the MiG had better maneuverability but the biggest advantage was the helmet mounted sight, it could fire missiles at 45 degrees off axis

Besides this, the F-16 was superior in every other aspect avionics, hardware wise etc

[distant obsidian]

but they were still getting beat by mig 21s in a dog fight

[thorn token]

The F-4 can out rate the MiG 21 which was its real advantage

[thorn token]

Yea, the Russians were a threat but not overall better

[manic pewter]

today it just isnt close anymore, and i think about the only place the opposite will be the case is in war thunder

[thorn token]

Eh, the Russians are finally catching up in the BVR world of fights

Their new radar sets are nasty

[indigo knoll]

A threat in one specific scenario but it was not a peer to the f-16

Said scenario was not favorable or realistic to be in anyway when the MiG-29 was introduced as BVR had already come a long way

[thorn token]

But they’re few and far between so not a problem really

[manic pewter]

and thats purely because the felon has a comprehensive electronics suite meant for it since awacs isnt a given like with US fighters

[bronze saddle]

Never really understood why we have HMG and GL masteries..

These are the only ones ill never max out

[indigo knoll]

Felon is a sexy piece of plane but its #1 opp is getting off the fucking floor

[manic pewter]

well, we have both in game but it cant be leveled even if you use either

[distant obsidian]

because decides to nerf everything american into the fucking dirt as far as air goes

fucking aim9m and aim 7ms might as well be dumb rockets

[manic pewter]

yes and no, its a double edged sword, but i do agree the AMRAAM is significantly worse off than the 77-1

[thorn token]

Russian missile development was another thing they actually had an advantage on us in. The R-73 was leagues better than the AIM-9M and when the west found out, the US panic pumped out the AIM-9X as a counter

[distant obsidian]

120s, 7s and 9s at the high end are all worse

when the reality its real world data vs what ever BS the russian put on a book

[thorn token]

Historically the 9M was actually dogshit

[manic pewter]

27ER is just stupid in WT

[thorn token]

So much so that most of Europe went back to using the 9L

[distant obsidian]

like you could give gaijin a paper note saying r77 rutn rate is 100g and they would take it as fact

[manic pewter]

but then again, unlike the US, russia actively use 27ERs to this date iirc

while the US has full gone to ARH

[distant obsidian]

yeah russian still uses fox 1s

the west is all 2s and 3s

maybe some random small nations still fires sparrows

[thorn token]

Which is funny to me, because the situation I just pointed out was a product of the west leaving Fox 1s behind

R-73 was crazy good when it came into service

Fox 1s have a place in aerial combat still I feel, the west is relying far too heavily on killing their target before they even see their target

[manic pewter]

its not a case of the sparrow being shit tbf, its just the capability the US have to always have an AWACS that can datalink said 120 to its target that give them a sizeable advantage against about every other nation on the planet

[bronze saddle]

My HMG is lvl1 cause PK offered me 55% HMG training twice

[thorn token]

I was talking about the sidewinder being bad

[manic pewter]

well

[thorn token]

Not the sparrow

[manic pewter]

you said they left fox 1s behind

so i defended said Fox 1 they left behind

because fox 3s are just far better suited

[thorn token]

9M historically couldn’t even properly distinguish between flares. Yes they left the IR missiles behind

[manic pewter]

Fox 1 is SARH

[thorn token]

My bad u right

[manic pewter]

its not like they left em behind either

[distant obsidian]

aim 9s are still on every single jet

nato jet

[thorn token]

They didn’t prioritize development on them as much as the Russians were at the time

[young frost]

i always thought rockets were piloted by little gnomes or goblins n they kinda just knew what to do n tried their best

[manic pewter]

they rushed out the 9X, then switfly improved it with the Block 2

[thorn token]

I’m talking about the 9M specifically

[manic pewter]

now we have Block 3s and IRIS-T which the latter is arguably the best IR missile in the world rn

[thorn token]

9X was the response to the R-73

[distant obsidian]

I have never heard of these issues with the Ms as you say

[manic pewter]

yes, i know

[distant obsidian]

in all metrics and usage they were better then the Ls

[manic pewter]

they rushed it out, it didnt perform, it was upgraded

[distant obsidian]

of course it had variants

but yeah, the X replaced all Ms

[lethal garnet]

goodnight

[manic pewter]

9X Block 2 is like the standard for a modern missile

[distant obsidian]

goodnight

[thorn token]

It had huge issues with its ircm

[distant obsidian]

all of them did in early variants

its no surprise

[thorn token]

Both Britain and Germany reverted to 9Ls as opposed to using the 9M

[manic pewter]

also, russia are losing more T-80s than they can make

[indigo knoll]

yo idk if ur still on lol, but if you are can you bring me to dorms if its alr?

[distant obsidian]

when did they do this

[thorn token]

I also don’t think they ever fixed the 9M

[manic pewter]

Germany upgraded their 9Ls with IRCCM

[distant obsidian]

yeah

iu mean if you just make an L and M then its all just variants and end up being all roughly the same

[thorn token]

Both of them went back and used 9Li’s

[manic pewter]

britain never really did switch, they were preoccupied with the ASRAAM

[distant obsidian]

was it they went back? or it made more sense to upgrade the stock of Ls

[thorn token]

They went back

[distant obsidian]

again, having a hard time finding and relevent data on this

[thorn token]

They had ordered 9Ms

[distant obsidian]

cause I very much doubt that. Prodduction lines and supply lines, all that

[thorn token]

It’s been a while since I’ve researched this, but I’ve had this conversation before with people on war thunder sub

[distant obsidian]

upgrading existing Ls to an M standard makes sense when you have a lot

[thorn token]

You would if the 9M never hit its target in actual scenarios

[distant obsidian]

cant say I ever heard of issues like that. Other then the odd one miss firing, which happens to all of them

[thorn token]

The seeker on the 9M wasn’t tested against Soviet flares which were usually very inconsistent. This made the Soviet flares not invisible to the 9M seeker and thus the missile always being fooled

[grizzled yoke]

for killing pmcs at stronghold on customs, is it advisable to just rush stronghold on match start and camp it for the whole game?

[distant obsidian]

jesus fuck, you google shit on these topics cause al lyou get is WT lol

[thorn token]

Trust me, arguing with wt players is nearly impossible sometimes and it makes me want to blow my brains out

[distant obsidian]

correct

[thorn token]

I’ve had to learn to dig deep, but I did this argument once already like 2 years ago

So I don’t have any exact sources currently

[distant obsidian]

ok, starting to see soem stuff on what your saying. Makes sense

[thorn token]

So this can all be considered hearsay technically

I may also be getting some of my statements wrong too tbh, it was a while ago

[spiral pecan]

Yeah js give me a few minutes

[indigo knoll]

i need a bit to get back to my pc too so give me a sec, no pressure

[distant obsidian]

yeah finding any relevent data is near impossible

[manic pewter]

anyways, something that isnt wrong

[indigo knoll]

ill ping u again when im back i just wanted to know if u were still available lol :p

[manic pewter]

the MiG-21 was kept in service way too long with the soviets

[distant obsidian]

but regardless, russian missiles in WT over perform and american ones under perform. At the higher ends

[tidal egret]

No better feeling than finding good keys in the rusted room after not seeing it for 20 raids

[manic pewter]

and the SMT was genuinely despised by its pilots

[distant obsidian]

I am interested to se for the new 120 is in WT

also 5th gen fighters this year

little bit of raptor action... yes plz

[mortal bough]

where is everyone finding the most pilgrim backpacks?

[distant obsidian]

lav station

[grizzled yoke]

scavs, and you can craft it

[manic pewter]

the 120D?

[distant obsidian]

yew

[manic pewter]

i can spoil it for you right now

[distant obsidian]

let me guess

[manic pewter]

itll be shit

[distant obsidian]

its shit.

[manic pewter]

slightly better than a C-5 because the 120D doesnt have clipped fins iirc

[distant obsidian]

yeah

[manic pewter]

but still shit compared to the PL-12A i think

[distant obsidian]

figures wt will just over nerf efverything

[manic pewter]

i dont think you truly know how gimped missiles in WT are

[distant obsidian]

yeah lol, gota over buff that Chinese and Russian stuff

o I do, mostly

[manic pewter]

you know that every ARH missile uses the same seeker with slightly different values?

[distant obsidian]

yep

[manic pewter]

or that maneuverability is also gimped on things like the Phoenix because it doesnt have dual plane steering?

[cosmic patrol]

U play war thunder dont u

[distant obsidian]

well let be honest, those are a menace so its ok

[manic pewter]

i used to

[cosmic patrol]

makes sense

[distant obsidian]

I take my breaks when the updates are boring

[manic pewter]

ive quit, havent played since november, which isnt a lot but its a start

[distant obsidian]

and its been an air patch for like 5 years now so

as a ground main, zzz.

[forest patio]

I’m just gonna say it, fuck woods

[distant obsidian]

so I got into air to have some fun. Decent at jets now.

gib f22 this year

seeing as they ruined my cf188

[shy pollen]

I only do woods for quests

[distant obsidian]

woods is a blast

[shy pollen]

I mean if you know the land, I only go to the bunker

And sawmill.

[distant obsidian]

indeed I do

[shy pollen]

All quiet at the saw mill🌞

That sounds like a horror movie

[spiral pecan]

im glad the 6b3TM has lvl 4 dick protection. i really needed that

[shy pollen]

Hey that’s useful

[spiral pecan]

all other rigs automatically useless

[shy pollen]

What abt lvl 6

[spiral pecan]

bsg, add it chop chop

[digital dune]

To be fair, crotch armor is probably the first armor i'd get because that's where i'd pew pew mfs.

[shy pollen]

Make me new dev fr

I make great ideas

Give all scavs 6B43 and Altyns with T6 plates, with AK50 strongest ammo

[digital dune]

Please do i'd love to stock up.

[tough pawn]

how do i bait scavs into the co-op exfil on streets

[shy pollen]

1000 health on all limbs

And make em stocked up on obdolbos fr fr

[shy pollen]

Shoot a lot

[tough pawn]

i did that and now this little geezer with his mp-153 is just sitting here trying to shoot at me

[shy pollen]

Hide

[trim kettle]

Nikita is Russian Kojima btw

[spiral pecan]

Nikita is not nikita

He's not real he's a psych op

[stone harbor]

you can try this like me, bring tons of cheese AI-2, also a tons of smoke grenades

throw them on the ground leading to the coop exfil

near the exfil, throw the smoke periodically, to make the smoke cover everything

[fleet loom]

kollontay doesnt exist and kaban is allergic to spawning

streets hates me

[stone harbor]

when the scav is close enough to make the exfil starting the countdown, just go CQC on him, block his weapon

and dont let it shoot your neck

[stone harbor]

hey aint we all, that's why I bring friends to balance my bad luck

[indigo knoll]

@spiral pecan are u available atm?

[spiral pecan]

yup. add me I'm escapefromlag

[indigo knoll]

just did

gonna go customs day lfg

fuck i queued in LOL lemme back out rq

muscle memory 😭

[spiral pecan]

i gotta stop using ending backgrounds these eat ur fucking fps holy shit

[indigo knoll]

man i miss lightkeeper

time to grind gim again to get hybrid

[spiral pecan]

lightkeeper is so shit rn

cqcm is level 3 and the spear is a niche gun kinda

[indigo knoll]

i thought it used to be lvl 4

[spiral pecan]

they changed it

[indigo knoll]

stinky

also spear may be niche but it feels so damn smooth with a proper build, even with just sig fmj

[wintry cobalt]

me running labs with a blackjack, and inside the blackjack is a takedown and inside the takedown is two JPC rigs

so much space!

[indigo knoll]

@spiral pecan ur gonna kill me

i forgot to put my marker in my inventory 😭

[grizzled yoke]

guys, how do I get rid of my extra "RFID card with Mr. Kerman's Hash Codes"?

[indigo knoll]

do you have an extra

[grizzled yoke]

the game says that I can't destroy my extra cards

[indigo knoll]

if you dont im so sorry

[spiral pecan]

i have a key case full of marked keys so i dont care much

take anything from the room i dont need it

[indigo knoll]

do you care if we hit it again?

[spiral pecan]

we can hit it yeah

[torn quail]

guys how do i kill these two cultist priests for story

i have done like 20 raids on customs going straight to stronghold and havent found them once

[violet jetty]

im confused wasnt there before a cover for bastion helmet barter for an egg ??? was the taken out or ?

[meager coyote]

Factory is a ~2% spawn chance, just go customs

[violet plaza]

Note if reshala spawns in stronghold it prevents cultists from spawning till they are all killed

[torn quail]

i thought cultists only spawn at the start of each raid

[echo hamlet]

have scavs always picked up dogtags

[indigo knoll]

i got da marker this time

[spiral pecan]

no only recently

[echo hamlet]

yes they removed it quite a while ago i believe

[regal valve]

has anyone figured out power leveling repair armors? is there any kind of ammo that i can pelt scavs/ pmcs with that do a bunch of armor damage but not as much penetration for the kill?

[echo hamlet]

buy armor from fence repair and sell

[regal valve]

i have a shitload of rubles but that gets expensive fast and kinda super annoying when people are doing the same faster than me lol

[violet jetty]

damn sadge tnxxx 🙁

[regal valve]

i bring back so many armor per raid and i get like no points repairing

[fading vector]

are marked room keys buffed yet?

[echo hamlet]

yes itll get expensive but run one labs raid and make a few million

[regal valve]

you are right, but still even doing that i feel like takes way too much time and im just as well off running raids grabbing broken scav gear. i think it would be better to find a ammo that can just shread the whole armor first.

idk. maybe its just broken to level in current 1.0 form.

[echo hamlet]

tbh i dont think its worth grinding levels for armor skill

im level 3 on heavy vests and 2 on light and i consisently get enhancements'

[regal valve]

for sure but im just bored and doing random skillups while questing haha :)

id like to figure out how to i hate to use the word "min max" for a skill, figure it out if we can in its current form

[spiral pecan]

wtf are up with these dots

range is broken as shit

[indigo knoll]

@spiral pecan car extract is here

[nova plank]

anyone need help with the door quest? someone helped me finishing it and got a free key from quest

thought i return the favor

[regal valve]

dang if i wasnt busy i would, kind of you, i thought about doing the same thing

[indigo knoll]

thank u for the help with the quest

[spiral pecan]

yuppers

[violet jetty]

@mental halo u posted "running terminal.. room for 2.. i dont exfil to run people through" how does that work ???? i still have to get there but im curious

[regal valve]

he might have a bunch of blank rfi cards and wants to help out

[mental halo]

@violet jetty i kill myself at the end so i can run again. i run terminal to help others so im always crafting cards. once i exfil its over with i cant run again

[tough pawn]

if i kill a scav on shoreline or interchange whilst doing fences tasks will i fail the ticket completely?

or will i just have to load back in and try again

[mental halo]

@violet jetty ive also done a bunch of different types of strats on terminal. so ive perfected basically the perfect run. also the perfect kits so we have everything and need nothing at all. we never have to pick up any thing besides task items. so it works out fine.

[violet jetty]

damn alr alr good tnx for info g

[thorny roost]

Just load back in and try again

[tough pawn]

alright thanks

[thorny roost]

sure thing

[final pawn]

What’s your favorite kit to run

[mental halo]

@violet jetty when you are ready to run terminal lmk ill take you through it... @final pawn thats alot to explain... everyones is different for different reaons to work together. guns x-17 or ak-103, any of the heaviest armor blackrock. i bring the gl and like 40+ grenades for it on top of my 2 guns.. plus more lol im like 75 to 80 kg

[final pawn]

Holy crap lol

[violet jetty]

im far from it i reseted my acc not long ago i just picked the armored case and need to go to lighthouse but im waiting for my buddy to do the same he 1 step behind

[final pawn]

Bro definitely has elite strength LOL

[mental halo]

@final pawn yeah but with the right stims most people can be while running terminal. we kit ALOT of stims and i make sure we are good. average raid to get someone to exfil is 1-2 which is super low

[high sandal]

??code

[quasi apex]

Redeem your goodies → https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/promo/activate (Or launcher → your name → activate code)
SBEUKOMAR | SCAVYBOI | GOONSQUAD | LIGHTSOUT | PAY2WIN | ELVISVISTA | INEEDSPACE | SHKREKDIVISION | SAMURAI

[tough pawn]

how hard r black division to kill because i feel as though a lot of talk about them is exaggerated

[jovial cobalt]

they're kinda hard but i guess its not much different than fighting like a squad of rogues

[final pawn]

Probably don’t peek the same angle twice lol

[mental halo]

@tough pawn they are weird because they can 1 shot and have top ammo but sometimes dont have aim at all. they also sometimes go down quick but my last raid over 20 rounds to upper chest to head per black with mai ap. so it all depends i think terminal has server issues that make it like that. also the set amount of enimies isnt always right ive had 80 kills and over 150 kills in a raid..

@final pawn i peak the same angle all the time.. you have tto wait like 10 secondss but usually we aree kiling them instantly with how my route works..

[final pawn]

Nice. Good to know thanks

I’m just finishing btr quest line and doing the fence quest then I should be able to escape hopefully within a week

[mental halo]

@final pawn the lose agro on a certain point after 10 to 15 seconds. also if you play right you have others hitting them from the other angle at the same time they cant shoot 22 directions at once.

@final pawn you dont have to do the price of ind. i didnt do that task until after i ran through terminal a few trimes. even though the thing says so

[gusty whale]

Die very quick to headshots, but will tank 50+ pen ammo anywhere else. They have the best aim in the game, you will die if you peak an open angle on more than one of them at a time. BUT they are also ai, so will brainlessly push you around a corner, and there is only 1 spot really where you HAVE to push 4 of them. Elsewise all the rest can be cheesed.

[gusty whale]

Think it depends if you have EOD/Unheard or not, get +0.2 starting rep

[final pawn]

Oh interesting. Yeah I’m on the one where I kill 30 things for prapor

[cursive sky]

Why the fuck can you only list one factory emergency key at a time. Some of these flea restrictions are legit bonkers

[grizzled yoke]

do you guys think that bsg is aware of the capturing outposts mission being borderline impossible on pve? Especially the customs one

[tough pawn]

ok so if i have unheard do i have to do price of independance or just battery change?

[cursive sky]

Wdym, just bash your head against a brick wall until you make it like I did yesterday

[compact folio]

??codes

[quasi apex]

Redeem your goodies → https://www.escapefromtarkov.com/promo/activate (Or launcher → your name → activate code)
SBEUKOMAR | SCAVYBOI | GOONSQUAD | LIGHTSOUT | PAY2WIN | ELVISVISTA | INEEDSPACE | SHKREKDIVISION | SAMURAI

[mental halo]

@gusty whalethank you for that about the rep had no idea

@gusty whale i dont really chese them for me.. they also sometimes can take multiple headshots. just had that issue 2 times in a row.

[echo hamlet]

oops wrong chat]

[grizzled yoke]

anyone know how to get rid of extra terminal passes? They're just kinda clogging up my stash

[thorn token]

right click, discard

[violet jetty]

any1 ever got goons at dorms buddy of mine just got GLed at front entrace of a 2 story

[grizzled yoke]

It prevents you. I've tried that

[thorn token]

well, use them idk

[grizzled yoke]

you can't use them after successfully passing terminal

[thorn token]

you can help others though

[grizzled yoke]

I can't. Once I escape from terminal once, I can go back and swipe it again. However, I will get shot by gate guards once approaching the terminal on shoreline

[thorn token]

pretty sure you can run terminal again with others if they still havent escaped

[grizzled yoke]

Nope, we've tested this

What I've described above is exactly what's gonna happen

[toxic patio]

I love seeing all these “clean build” guns and its just meta gun with meta attachments

[grizzled yoke]

guy who has passed terminal can swipe in along with the others who haven't passed terminal yet, however, the guy who has passed terminal already will be shot when approaching the gate

The others will transition in like normal

[toxic patio]

Terminal seems to be handled like shit tbh

whole ass map, used for one thing and never again