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Does anyone have any free nitro?
i have a good beat for when ppl say no
You could try asking one of the many bots claiming to give it away, but I'd very much recommend against it 🙂
Nah, just left
It legit sounds like a win win situation tho, good for him
It's difficult to move that much money gained from non-legal things online
I'd take the 2 million
But maybe I'm just boring 😄
I don't think I'd honestly know what to do with 2 mil
Mhhm, put a deposit down on a flat, buy a car and that's it...?
oh and help my brother through the rest of his uni
Buy a multi-tenant housing complex, list it through a property manager, continue living the life i have with no changes
Maybe go on holiday for a month
I'd probably get an RS3, then invest the rest somewhere
It's the only thing I'd swap my GTI for honestly
Because it's the exact same thing, just better
I've got a friend with an M3, can't go wrong there either
I guess at that point why not get both? 🤣
If I was gonna have my dream two car garage, it would be an RS3 + either 911 Turbo S or a Cayman GT4
oooh yess
Followed by crippling insurance
Hahaha!
That and the road tax 🤯
actually, I would get a Mitsubishi evo x and live my rally driver fantasy!
Ooh, that could be fun.
I have wanted one ever since a kid
Was gonna get an old WRX hatchback before I found my GTI
my dream garage is an early 60s chevy apache and a more modern V8 pickup
respectable respectable
The apache is the one that looks high as a kite isn't it
Cummins go brrrrrrrrrrrr
V8 yucky
I just want Audi's magic 5 cylinder
Make your own 
v8 engines are way more reliable for my use case
hauling a small camper-trailer or a 10' trailer of my stuff doesn't require a diesel
Yeah, I would much prefer to transplant an older engine into a more modern chassis
the chevy stepside is just for funsies, because i love the design
wrapround windscreen and stepside is one of the most attractive vehicle designs
Yeah, newer chevy trucks just look bleh
Older trucks in general look much better
If they aren't beat to shit
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Evo. Where you get an evo from.
Literally one of my favorite lines
Love jimmy
Hire a financial advisor 
That's the first thing I'd do with the 2 mil
Then I'd change my name to Bartholomew
Cut off all ties to society and go live in the mountains
Think about philosophy
Then suddenly come back and create a monopoly in literature
I'd do that even without 2mil - "Cut off all ties to society"
I'd invest most of it, then sod off and be bruce wayne at the beginning of Dark Knight Rises, where people aren't even sure he exists anymore
Then randomly show up with a bunch of cool toys periodically
get 2 mil, put it in the bank
Multiple banks
FDIC go brrrrrrrr
Yall jus wasting ur times
Oh, thought that's why we're hanging out in discord in the first place 
https://twitter.com/jonathandata1 misinformation is no more :crabrave:
What was the deal with him? I saw some drama on twitter but have no clue what happened haha
He made claims about the Chinese app that the olympians have to use in Beijing: it would record them et cetera. The only evidence he had was a few s of the strings of several unrelated apps (e.g. android and iOS) with no reverse engineering at all
According to people in the community, he has a history of making these unsupported claims and is basically a wannabe: he claimed he was #1 on hackerone, while it was #1 in the US in 201* and because all of that hackerone rep was earned on the department of defense which apparantly accepts almost anything
and now imma shut up in before I get muted for rule 2
If you have more stuff about him I would live to here it haha, DMs open xD
mostly drama
Heh, yeah, one of the very first spats was about THM actually. He claimed that being able to pull data from a public API endpoint was a vulnerability.
The public API endpoint in question is the one that the Discord bot uses to announce rooms 😆
SmH tHm FiXeD a BuG wItHoUt AcKnOwLeDgInG mY rEpOrT
uh, no, the api was just moved
🤣
Along with half a dozen others that were on dumb routes 😆
that one was interesting drama as well 🙂
Definitely true
I learned that you should only make claims if you can prove it
in before I get hated™️
That is usually a good foundation for anything in life
Oh, God. Don't get me started.
I can not buy premium voucher
👀
I mean they're not wrong
Ayo
I don’t get it
Me neither, lol
Hello everyone i have question about John the ripper what if I encrypted a RAR file with hashed password not plain text can john still crack it ?
Remember that hash cracking requires you to have the password in the list that you're using. Regardless of what modifiers/rules you put on it, at the end of the day, it's basically one big list, and you're checking the hash of a password from your list against the actual hash you're trying to crack.
If your wordlist and the rules you apply do not hit the exact "hashed password" you used, then yeah, john won't find it. But, if I took that and put it in my wordlist and did the whole procedure, yes, it would be "cracked".
you can also try to bruteforce it if it's not that long and your rig is strong enough to not take years to do it.
Is HSTS still vulnerable, or it's fixed ? I'm in an outdated course, so I'm curios
good read
I don't know where to go, I need help with a lesson
Is it homework?
It's with the Identifying Devices on Networks practice on TryHackMe
I am stuck on spoofing the mac address question
Oh!
I know what one you're on without even going
Do you know what spoofing is?
I get the gist. I just started today
Then you need to "spoof" the address of the other machine.
Sorry, I only own a cat from da block... no apes here https://opensea.io/assets/matic/0x2953399124f0cbb46d2cbacd8a89cf0599974963/101926207304663902062289126253880087080761763971933907596760126812427254759437
I'm so dumb i just realized what it was asking me to do 😅
You're not the first person to go "wat"
You won't be the last either.
I saw that in the forum
Next time though, you'll probably get a faster response if you confirm it's THM you need help with (We don't help with homework or school work here) and use #room-help or #room-hints
Yo
You need to verify to post media
So sorry
!docs verify
Follow these instructions and you'll be able to verify
I am so sorry it is just a pic of the halo rat
Mountain ranges are so beautiful
I remember going to BC for a summer and just staring at the mountains, they are so mesmerizing
ikr
Mountains're nice
which place?
moving here cause heat there
near nanital in uk
I want to use m1 air for cyber security. Do you think this is a good idea?
No. Virtualization is a big problem with those.
also, binary exploitation 
no.
i choose matebook x pro
Who else get's so fuckin excited whenever u see this guy , he is soo like me with much much more iq points
https://github.com/geohot?tab=repositories
Ben 'n jerry's be wildin' https://twitter.com/benandjerrys/status/1489393235655106562
You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war. We call on President Biden to de-escalate tensions and work for peace rather than prepare for war. Sending thousands more US troops to Europe in response to Russia’s threats against Ukraine only fans the flame of war.
1878
13033
Ben & Jerry's keeping on brand
On Brand for Ben and Jerry's but also a little misinformed. The thousands of troops are IRF1 which is the 82nd Airborne. It's a Brigade sized element that's always on standby, has been since the 80s. In other words, it's a nothing burger
@winged rain please avoid content that is political. This is also not a meme channel
Sorry about that
It do be like that sometimes...
im a lil busy at work right now =/ did you remember to grab the arm image? and not the amd64?
kali-linux-2021.3-installer-netinst-arm64.iso is the one i used
no worries - i did exactly the same 🤣
found it thanks
First screenshot is the task 1 in the room: The Find Command
2nd screenshot is from my vm linux.
Can someone please take a look and explain this?
Confused about the Find command. I forget accidentally to use precede expression + -name and yet the command found the file. (find file-1-see 2nd screenshot) What is the different? 😕
if you look in the list, the same thing happened with find file-*, command outputs both of the files but then it's without slash /
Oh ok, my bad(thought I should have to ask here)😅
Ignore me
?
I misread what you were asking
oh ok, np sir. Happens to all of us 👍
Looking at it, it seems like the command was expecting a file path with the use of the wildcard character? Not exactly sure
And it might also be because you have file-* unquoted
Try find -name "file-*"
Oh wait you already did. So yeah that's my best guess
thanks for the reply. Yeah that is what I am confused about.
Why find -name "file-* if I can do it faster this way: find file-* ?
Oh I see now what your reply means. File path. Just tested it out to cd and used the full command and this is the result. 😅
figured this out. Thanks for the help 🙂
I think I was confused about the working directory and folder directory. Because I also tried in the mint directory this command: find file-* and he didn't found it, outputs: No such file or directory. So yeah that is why to use full command 👍
this room is broken
Great, Thx
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just a quick question, is there a recommendation of how much disk space I need for dual boot?
Unless you're in a niche application, Dual booting isn't recommended generally. VMs are leagues better as you don't mess up core components when you mess up. Windows also doesn't run over your boot partition. Is there a reason why you're avoiding a VM?
not really. I just thought that dual boot would be easier/more suitable for the not so good pc that I have now, what is apparently not the case haha
I'm going to try and set up a VM, thanks for the info
Not a problem. VirtualBox is a good free option that has a lot of online tutorials
Though it doesn't play nice with HyperV and/or wsl2
Dualbooting does have its perks though
e.g. better performance and the dopamine rush when you start your linux installation on bare metal and it responds with a kernel panic
can someone put me through....thought it was from the ground up
Can you clarify what you mean, please?
i meant i need basic guidance on hacking pls
Have you checked through #start-here ?
no...thanks ill try that now/
thanks bruh
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anyone watch the apprentice
So I really should be doing this 🤔
@lost knoll Im sorry for the tag, but I finally passed you on the leaderboards, I have been to do it for like 3 weeks now and it finally happened! I believe you can get to me quickly enough though!
You are 12 points away though haha
personally, i prefer encrypting in base64
very good
Base64 is not encryption
ah, the time old confusion between encoding and encryption
I did a funny
yeah I'm still a bit tired
I woke up about 20 mins ago and now I'm outside waiting for a bus in freezing weather
😔
no, and just for asking you probably never will 🙂
Perks of having a licence.
😔
Today has not gone very well so far
Right now I'm standing in a supermarket using an employee's charger to charge my phone cause I'm in the middle of nowhere and my bus pass is on my phone but the battery died
At 25% battery now, but gonna charge a bit more just in case
😦 ouch.
you should pick up a battery pack at some point.
I have one, but this is literally the first time in quite a while that I haven't taken it with me lmao
So many new and interesting rooms and so little time. >_< I wonder how many rooms are there overall and if the top places in the leader board have done every single room ... hmm ...
I'm sure you have seen this https://tryhackme.com/faq but check "How points work" again and there is also a shortcut (find a bug) to get more points ☺️
Never missed a semicolon😂
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Isnt the bug fixed already?
How big is the chance that running malware on proxmox VMs will infect your entire computer?
(e.g. moonbounce-ish exploits with sandbox escapes)
how do you deal with stress
Malware breaking out of VM's is rare.
Think about the damage it would cause to thm if it could 👀
There's been a couple for KVM but if you keep patched
Not much. THM hosts on AWS, the impact is to AWS not to THM really
Yes, but they could stop users from deploying machines
How?
Taking down the aws servers hosting the machines?
What ip is that?
What IP is that?
lol its the ip address that given through the assignment
lord ninja xD
my Uni told me to do this assignment before tommorrow 😕
um okay sorry, I thought to get some help from experienced guys here, okay
I'm a mod. If you have a problem with me trying to establish if it's illegal or unethical, please take it up with MuirlandOracle.
When asking other members for help (either with TryHackMe rooms or anything else), Isnt that in the rules? "anything else"
sorry
What point are you trying to make?
That is only for tryhackme rooms.
Im just saying, asking for help on general questions shouldnt be scrutinized, i get being unethical is not ok, and your trying to make sure thats not happening. But asking for homework help isnt against the rools
and im not trying to be rude in any way, dont take it like that please
oh okay understood, can u name me some discord servers that I can get help
Asking for homework help is just something not done on an etiquette point of view.
You could argue it's also unethical as it's assessed and they're effectively cheating.
from cyber sec enthusiasts like you
ok man, i get it i guess.
sorry
It's an assignment from your uni.
If you haven't understood the teaching material or you need help, that's exactly what your lecturers and teachers are for.
Get your money's worth out of your education
its not a home work help actually, its something I really want to learn, I searched through google, I already found the answer, through online ip address look up, I can put that answer to the assignment, but for sake of enthusiasm in cyber sec I have, I want to find a way to look up on the Ip address via theHarvester only
its not a homework help
thank you, Im sorry if you guys misunderstood this, I fucking love this field, I was stucked and came here asking for help
Counts as homework. Same advice applies.
yep assignment not a graded one, I can ignore it if i want
The absolute best thing you can do is talk to your teachers
Show an interest, get them to explain further. Work with them.
yeap, ikr, I believed this could be a good way and faster way to get know than asking from teachers, but it didnt worked as I expected
Especially at university level, be on good terms with your teachers.
One of the big advantages of going to university is connections.
yes, I understood, communication with teachers is a key
I got my job in pentesting, skipping certs and a few years in IT, just by being on good terms with lecturers
(also leaving assignments till the night before they're due is bad)
yea, that makes sense, also motivated me
nope today is when they gave assignment and told us to finish before tommorrow, lol, they love to give stressful assignments haha
hey um
can we get a job just only with certs and without a major?
There's only one answer to that question: maybe
always depends on skill and attitude noh
There's so many factors at work. A degree still makes getting interviews easier. If you're working on a degree, finish it.
im finishing it haha, wish me good luck
thank you for having a talk with me, alr back to assignment 😂
I was using theHarvester last week.
👋
Just to elaborate on this 🙂
There's never any way to tell if something is assessed or not if it's an academic question, which means that we would be unethical if we helped with it as we would be giving them an unfair advantage over their peers. If it's not assessed then there should not be a problem speaking to a lecturer or teacher about it, which solves the problem entirely 🙂
did you know the room to get Windows Priv Esc ?
Hello
No.
OSCP, CEH, eCPPT, eJPT, etc
Hello everyone
Thanks
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which certificate has the highest value in ethical hacking
For beginners I'd guess the OSCP
Hi everyone.
I'd like to learn C (I have previous experience with python and java) but most books spend a lot of time on basics (operators, data type, etc) and I usually get bored. Does someone know a book that covers other arguments in parallel with C? Like C by projects or C for binary exploitation.
Even game design or scientific computation would be good. I just get bored in learning C for its own sake.
you might also try in #bookclub
I missed that section. I'll check it out. Thank you
Can trilium do this ?
trilium has support for mermaid.js built in - super easy to use diagramming language definition. not sure about the circuit diagram though
Are streaks based on the specific hour vs just a calendar day? I lost my streak because I logged in later in the day, kinda stinks.
That's your attackbox, not the deployed machine 🙂
I need some general advice on solving CTF's as things get more difficult. When should I give up and look up a write up? I know sometimes advanced CTF's are timed so when it times out. For THM though at what point should I stop trying harder, take the L and learn?
When you have no idea what's going on or they're using tools techniques you've never learned about it's usually good to look at a writeup then research those tools, techniques yourself
You can't do a CTF if you don't have the knowledge needed to actually do it
I also don't like that you are describing it as taking an L because it's a learning opportunity which should be viewed as a W
Research the potential tools, and then if you’re still stuck, then consult a write up
Don’t limit yourself to only what you know and are comfortable with, otherwise you aren’t pushing yourself to do the research. If you do research and still can’t figure it out, then looking at a write up or getting a nudge is what you should do
i see, i misunderstood and thought asking for help was being considered "unethical" i just misread. Im sorry
All good ♥️
I am new to the information security. TryHackMe.com is a good website. If I have finished some lab in the room, I don't know how to find the solution.
If you require room help or hints #room-help #room-hints would be the place to go, prefferably after you've done some research and pondering yourself.
Literally this, I recently did a room with "redis", didn't know about it before but researched for hours and got the exploit for the foothold!
Sometimes, it is too advanced but you have to put a solid few hours in first before going for a writeup 🙂
I think it's a lot harder to get in that mindset by just doing THM. I know I found the discipline to do the research when I started doing real events.
Because there literally are no writeups to go off of, so either you keep trying or you just move on
Yes, when I was starting in Thm, I'd read more writeups without the proper research too
The discipline is something that gradually develops
I've realized I've been doing it wrong 😆 I should research first then go look for a writeup
I would look for a writeup then research the stuff in there
Just read this conversation related to my question, this was really helpful thank you guys. I will do my research, follow hints if available and only then find a write up for CTF's if I get really can't go any further.
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hi
hello who are you?
Hey now, be nice
Who am I?
not you, Alik
Maybe u are the dream
Screenshot is from a video:
hi everyone, I need a bit help with installing Linux Ubuntu on my system WIN10 as a partition. this is all very new to me, to install linux on win10
Via YT video learned how to do this but YT broadcaster only has one disk in his system and I have 2.
Primary is SSD and second is HDD Healthy (basic Data partition)
I don't know where to shrink volume and how much, so did also research about this and it said
if you have more then one drive, make sure to choose the one that says Primary Partition
This will be usually be labeled as the C: Drive.
so yeah I think I can do this but I am not sure about. Just do exactly the same as described in the step-by-step plan?
(shrinking volume in C: - boot cd linux - choosing Something Else during installation - right click freespace -click add- ?create partition 4000MB: use as swap area? - right click free space - add - primary partition - mountpoint / - device to choose for bootloader.
And that is it?
I don't get the Swap area thing. What is it for?
How much to shrink in C:? It's an 250GB M.2 SSD drive. I would like to work with Linux more often, to get used it.
(VMware liveboot doesn't work good for me since I figured out every changed I made will be deleted, even if I delete the repositery too )
I think I have already found the right guide to install Linux on WIN10 but I'm just not sure about this. Like I said this is all very new to me
You could install the system instead of liveboot within VMware
Where do you want to install the linux system - SSD or HDD?
Make sure you have enough space to cut out from the drive you select
And use Windows' diskmgmt.msc utility to shrink the volume, you will get Unallocated space (free space) in black color in the utility
Any changes you make to an installed system in VMware or any other similar hypervisor tool persists after reboot (not liveboot)
I would like to install on HDD because it has 1 TB size and only data partition.
I did install Linux iso images on the VMware and changed this in the setting to use iso images. See screenshot
Installing didn't work without the dvd, I tried that already.
After installing and select this option works to open linux in VMmare without the dvd.
Any changes I make to an installed system will persist after reboot?
I'm doing something wrong here with installing linux on VMmare ? But I tried to install iso images only too and didn't work 😕
What did you select after starting it?
Install the system
Graphical installaler
Live boot
Live boot with persistence
Settings
...
Oh, I can't remember that anymore 😅
Here you already have a hard disk allocated for your VM (30GB one)
You could install the system on it and then remove the DVD (.iso) from the VM and it will work normally
You have to Install the system, you might have seen similar option being selected in the video you mentioned
In the screenshot that I have shared: option to use ISO image file doesn't mean I have deleted the DVD from the VM ?
In the YT video it's how to install linux on WIN10 as a partition. On VMmare I already have installed
I tried it again and this doesn't work.
That would boot using the .iso file and not the installed system (if you installed it)
Have you installed the system in the VM?
But earlier you told, you haven't 😅 (just liveboot)
Sorry my bad, I think I have then not installed the system in VM.
Ok thanks I think I got it now. Need to search some info about installing system in VMmare without the dvd liveboot, right?
So the iso images that I have doesn't install the system , right?
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What's the full filename of your .iso file?
I guess you have the -live.iso one🤔
and if I installed the system on VM, all the changes that I make will persist in the VM ?
Yes, just like a normal installation (not a VM)
I have Disc Image Files Linuxmint-20.3-cinnamon-64bit
So yeah that seems be the reason why I can not install without the dvd I think 😅
Could you also share an image of the boot menu when you start the VM?
Is this the one?
https://linuxmint.com/torrents/linuxmint-20.3-cinnamon-64bit.iso.torrent
Oh, didn't you see the Install Linux Mint shortcut on the desktop when you login into the VM?
Oh I don't remember it but it wasn't a torrent. Probably the download site. I have downloaded it through Linux Mint with the sha256 txt
It looks, Linux Mint directly opens up a live session and not present you with options like Install, Live boot, ...
yeah I have installed it on desktop
Ok, I am going to do this again with the dvd on VMmare and will try something else through the installation.
Thanks for the help, appreciate it. brb
I think this is correct. During the process I didn't see any option + I have changed the location.
Or is it Customize Hardware and use iso images ? But I have Disc Images Files. Doesn't work probably?
Well, I am gonna try that myself first.
I don't have VMware, so just to be sure I don't distract you from correct path😅
Also, you should select the ISO image file and boot from it.
Then open Install Linux Mint available on the desktop in the VM
I need a little help with something, I need to login to RDP from a user that is on the Domain Controller into another computer on the AD but I have no idea about the syntax haha
Yes I've waited for you reply and then selected use iso images files. Then I have rejected the dvd and opened Linux Mint and it worked.
Now I also see what you mean, I think this one is what you mean to select option? So here it's somewhere I have to look for install system?
OEM install?
Try to just start it, and then install from inside it. I was reading their docs, you will get Install Linux Mint after you get in
Oh I see. This one?
Yeah
Thanks @woven patrol This was so confusing when I installed, I mean 'installed' Linux on VMmare. I thought whole time this is it: yahh I have a VM now AND installed Linux but no 😅
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Thanks again, appreciate your help
👍

Actually, I think of it now not showing the Install system during boot.
In most of my VMs, I have had that option😅
It's my first VM and I choose VMmare, that is actually why I didn't see Install system here
I think I should probably try more few different VM to see which works good
I mean which works easy for me
Perhaps not because of VMware, that's just how that .iso was prepared to directly start a system to try out
That won't be what the issue is.
Kali, Parrot would be good if you are regular on THM and learn related stuff
Oh I see, hmm
Thanks, will check it out 👍
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haven't used parrot -- does it do anything better than Kali?
should i use vmware or virtual box if im looking for a free software and also which os is better for hacking parrot or kali
VMware or VirtualBox is down to individual preference, I can't say much for parrot either as I use Kali, it's handy knowing the things I need for THM are already there, and confidant enough to find and install what I don't have.
its in #bot-commands channel allowed
They're not verified either, so they won't get a rank.
I feel like virtual box is easier for the user to use and it's also open source meaning more updates/features get added to it more frequently
Auto hack script in parrot is op
I run kali out of a virtualbox from my macbook pro. SSH into it and do all challenges from there. Seems to work well
Docker is another good option, I find that it's lighter weight than Vbox
Very important to note that those are not VMs, however
Oh I had no idea, are they basically chroot jails then?
Kinda
They are closer to being chroot jails than they are to being VMs, that's for sure.
Containers on *nix systems are effectively just process namespaces -- in other words, the processes are segregated but if you use ps aux on the host you'll still see them in the list.
Containers on Windows run off hyper-v, so I suspect they are closer to being VMs, but I haven't really played around with those
Containers are also supposed to (by convention primarily) only actually run one process -- e.g. a webserver
So, a containerised web stack, for example, would use a bunch of different containers -- a webapp container, a database container, and probably a cache container at minimum
Docker containers can run all three at once, but it's very much not recommended
well, that went straight into my notes 😄
the idea of a container is that it provides runtime isolation, and is intended to be immutable. If you are intending to have some kind of backing store to write to, that introduces a pretty hefty level of complexity to configure vs just running a vm
There are performance advantages to a container, but it's easy to donk it up and not provide the isolation intended
containers are a key component of microservices
Interesting, thx for clarifying
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Can you deploy metasploitable in a corporate environment for testing?
It would be down to the organisation to decide the scope of what they want you to do
How can I make this work?
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<script>
function makeNode(c){let p=document.createElement("p");p.innerHTML=c;document.getElementById("body").appendChild(p)};
function printParam(){decodeURI(window.location.toString()).split("?")[1].split("&").map(p => makeNode(p))};
</script>
</head>
<body id=body onload=printParam()>
</body>
</html>
when I use <svg onload=console.log(1)> it doesn't get executed
it basically prints out the parameters
hm <img src=x onerror=alert(1)> does work
that's quite weird
CEH V11 Exam voucher + Courseware just for 15k INR
Yes, but CEH 🤮
Also, would you please quit spamming that in every channel @foggy vigil
Once is enough 🙂
I could go a bit of CEH...
I assume it has another meaning?
Someone might be interested.
Nah, I'd get that before I finish college.
One cert EzPz.
If they are then they will either be very out of touch, or have already carefully been watching the job market in their area to weigh up whether they need to subject themselves to that rubbish.
Regardless, that still doesn't mean you post it in about 6 different channels -- that's just rude 😆
One channel -- preferably #resources is enough
Got you
"that rubbish" is my favourite part.
#rubbish channel? O_o
Is it legal to take revenge on scammers?
No. Unless by taking revenge you mean reporting them to authorities.
What sort of scam? Did you lose money?
The scam was a 'game beta testing' link
And what was the outcome? Was it phishing?
For the outcome, it was worst than my entire wallet
He broke my computer hardware and the power button doesn't produce light any more
Hence, why I asked question on revenge
i did run antivirus scans, changed my passwords and activated 2FA before he broke my power button
i thought it was safe until the hardware broke
Did he break into your house?
remote
So you did it?
So you were infected with a virus?
Yes
The lesson I learnt was to not run any suspicious exe files
im still in grief after what happened
Isn't the power button light controlled by firmware? I didn't know a downloaded exe file can go that deep into the system
It happened about 1 hour after I downloaded that bad exe file
It can't
It was a very unfortunate coincidence
Those "game testing" malware tend to steal discord tokens etc.
It cant be a coincidence because my laptop was working fine for years until the exe happened
hard for me to believe
Maybe we'll be hearing about a new exploit tomorrow.
You won't. Power light is handled with ACPI.
Right. That would also be a curious thing for an attacker to target
I suppose there is some sort of way for me to fix my computer?
Wipe the OS and reinstall
Sending malware over discord and telling people to play your game isn't exactly a sophisticated technique
My local computer repair shop doesn't charge to look at your computer, if they're able to fix only then they charge
It just wouldn't happen
It's a coincidence. Humans hate those.
I wish somebody was able to turn off my power button light, I personally don't like it
You often can in your bios. You can also... You know... Unplug it.
Unless it's a laptop. Then tape over it.
Tape is the answer
I'll tell my parents that my laptop broke by coincidence
I don't think I know how to wipe the OS or reinstall it
You'd be better actually telling them the truth
I knew a 60 year old who got hacked, bank account. Few thousand stolen. She doesn't even know how it happened. Unfortunately the stats say that the majority of victims are over that age.
I had an assumption that old people weren't smart
I thought it was a coincidence
I can but that's too hard
Nowadays I wouldn't just uninstall the OS
bcs of moonbounce etc
but gl making a new esp lol
This is actually a pretty easy thing to tell them. If you eventually want to get treated like an adult, you need to act like one which means telling people uncomfortable truths
Half truths are still a lie and lying will always blow up in your face
Most laptops these days have a recovery partition built in. Trigger the factory reset and everything goes to day 1 installs
Any one know of a good crypter? I'm trying to make quasar FUD rofl
Sounds cool, what are you trying to deploy on?
Write your own
We'll see about that
I cant do factory reset if the laptop wont turn on
@pearl latch Could you send a screenshot of cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
of my vm
linux?
Well I just wanted to see what processor your machine is using? Do you know ?
Okay, so why you installed an arm kali then ?
no its not amd
can I dm you cuz it takes time here
Ye, go ahead with DM
yo, so I completed the Pentest+ path on tryhackme and got certed. However, I still cant solve the "easy" boxes on hack the box without a walkthrough. Is that normal or what should I be doing to be able to solve them without help?
You and I are in the same boat man. What I've decided to do is to keep trying rooms without walkthroughs but when I fail to get anywhere I do a different room that explains a new concept I might be able to use to get the flag. Currently, I'm failing to solve the Pickle Rick room and I'm not sure if I should be bruteforcing or not. So I'm going to go through all the bruteforcing rooms try hack me has to offer and keep trying when I think I have the answer for Pickle Rick I give it ago. If that fails I will try a different room that teaches me a different technique.
Gives me a reason to learn about things because it's for the purpose of solving a CTF. I understand though it can get pretty frustrating 
(Please don't spoil anything people. I'm currently excited to learn about bruteforcing because it might work :3)
I think the only bruteforcing for pickle rick is with whatever you use to look for directories.
There is an account to log in to, however all the credentials can be found somewhere on the machine.
okay. I shouldn't have said anything lol 
I didn’t even know there were walkthroughs
I passed CompTIA Security+ last Monday. Very thanks to a guy that suggested me professormesser.com
Awesome!!!!! How was it?
completing one path once isn't enough unless you're really talented
I went through 3 of the learning paths 3 times
and then for my first boxes, I still looked at hints
not to mention I did wreath
Tbf, wreath is an easy level network that guides you with almost baby steps 🤷♂️
I never said its difficult. just saying I went through a lot of materials before I Could do even the easiest boxes on my own
I still remember running linpeas for my first time, seeing 4k lines of output and thinking to myself "this is fucking insanity"
Yeh, a little tip for linpeas, pipe the output to less like linpeas.sh | less -r
More readable
And yes, it does take some time just being able to solve easy boxes
For htb*
@gray jetty have you any rooms today?
I'm trying to some now.
Every room I do I can't do a Feroxbuster scan inster other enumeration tool here
All of them refuse to connect.
Ffuf, wfuzz, gobuster, are good alternatives but sounds like a connection issue
Connection is fine, I can nmap them etc.
Is the machine even accessible via Web?
Maybe add it into hosts file, ig
Some machines need a domain name to serve Web content
Source shouldn't. just has a flick through the video
I'll boot up a machine where I know I need to enumerate it.
... what room is this anyway?
I can scan other targets, must be the way the three rooms were set up and I was juts unlucky with the choice 😂
Yeh, no bruteforcing is needed for this room 🙂
Also, add ip to /etc/hosts
It is one of those rooms
Linpeas is great, after 8 hours trying my first vulnhub box I remembered linpeas and pwned in 20 minutes
it is indeed life saver
Is it just me or does anyone else search for an issue in this discord chat and get too invested in a random chat that happened two years ago 
Yeah! I like reading on some of things I missed out on.
ahem stalker ahem
I prefer to call it learning

oh
same man same
That happened to me the other day when I was looking for something said when I first joined lol
Good eve everyone!
||hashing crypto is an old room but for the last question for task 4 the letter count for NTLM hash in the hashcat website is 33 but the right answer is 32.||
User error.
Echo, unless you specify, will terminate with a newline.
Research would tell you the correct answer
with normal echo there's a space at the end, but with -n a new line replaces the space and makes it compact
hi
google say 14 lol
thanks
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Eh?
-n removes the newline
And there isn't a space involved regardless
TL;DR: Without -n, echo adds an extra character (\n) on the end, messing with the character count.
With -n, the character is not added so the character count is as expected.
Then you're looking at input to the LM algorithm, truncates it to 14chars and hashes 2 lots lf 7
Hey does anyone know how dnsmasq works? I read the description but I still don’t quite understand if anyone can explain it to a 10 year old
Well not necessarily how it works, that I just about fully understand. I mean the purpose of dnsmasq. I hope the answer isn’t something as obvious as masking our dns queries. Per the name
thanks for the clarification, so instead of space in normal echo there's a \n at the end and with -n it's no longer there 👍
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There's no space either way
I meant the extra character is a \n
I assumed it was a space :/
Nah, there's nothing there if you remove the newline
well, that's why I said normal echo
Normal echo has a newline
Echo with newline removed doesn't replace it with anything
I mean, I said with -n it's no longer there,
~~you're just dying to say I'm a muppet aren't you
~~
You muppet ;)
nah, doesn't feel the same coming from anyone but muir 
Sorry I tried <3
Muppet is a great word to call someone, second is eijit.
well done, ya muppet :)
Oi, eijit! calm it 😄
for reference
Yeah, that was around the time I joined the discord channel, xD
It was a pretty fun conversation,
#general message
LM is gross and bad.
It splits your password into 2 sets of 7chars qnd hashes them separately, then combines the results. It's old and gross and bad.
It was, there was even a message I thought Muiri would have got hit with an innuendo.
Doesn’t that mean you have to do half the work cracking it?
Correct
Pretty sure it’s actually less but idk
Why not just hash each char separately 
2^2 less no?
Oh wait no half sounds right
Exponentially less, each additional char of plaintext adds length(charset) or whatever
Cracking two 7char pws is much easier than one 14char
Yeah need to get the math done for that
Ummmm... No-one realised that tomorrow is Raspberry Pi's 10th birthday? I think there'll be some announcements...
Hello guys
can someone help me how to brute force gpg files
I tried using john but it is taking a lot of time
Yo! Can a mod give me the Creators-Lounge role? I’m trying to make a room and may need some help.
Oooh, what's it going to be on?
Some cool stuff, I also need a couple testers cause it’ll have quite a lot of steps that can be messed up, are you up for it?
Only if I understand what going on 😆
better not be a windows room smh
Can I DM you?
Probably won’t but technically it could be haha
writeups are provided for testers 🙂
Whats wrong with windows rooms?
Zeesh hates them

Oh if a writeup is provided I'd be down to try and break the room
Maybe and maybe not...
👀
As long as I know where I have to end up
Can I dm you?
Go ahead, my wifi is cutting on and off tho so know that I'm not ignoring you
that's probably the best method 🤷♀️ so either
- you're using the wrong wordlist / not applying the right rules
- that is not the intended method
Usually being a bit more polite will go a long way ;)
Oops sorry, I realised just now that it sounds a little “do as I say”, my bad honestly, thanks for pointing it out!
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Still waiting ;)
Sure! Do you mind giving me the role? I would really appreciate it!
➕ Gave the role Creators-Lounge to sootierr#2643
Thanks hydra!
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Look forward to seeing your room
GHoP is going a room! this should be good!
Honestly I will probably make it a Hard room, it’s probably gonna be medium though cause the stuff I want to do is pretty uncommon in CTFs and I will need to give hints to alot of the steps.
That's cool, after all, the hints are optional.
I was thinking more like hints as a part of the CTF itself, not in THM since I want to have only two flags but I have about 3 steps you need to do before even getting initial access.
Ah, I see!
Remember that everything needs to be self-contained
Yeah I know! It just has a lot of steps for the web part!
What does IAT mean? I tried googling but couldn't find anything
Import Address Table.
So quiet...
So so quiet
Sorry in advance but I have a stupid question.
Shouldn't malware with admin rights be impossible to delete?
It should be able to counter the request to quarantine by... (suppose malwarebytes) and stay installed, right?
I don't have deep expertise in this area, but assuming the malware is running in memory, it could implement countermeasures against endpoint protection. However, if those aren't full proof, or if the malware is not running in memory, then the malware installation theoretically would be less effective at blocking AV, etc. from cleaning it up.
Pretty sure the most effective way to remove malware is just nuking the system, then there's(hopefully) no traces left
You should already have all your important files backed up following the 3-2-1 rule
Thank you for the indepth answers! @winged rain @dry pewter
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I was using my family's laptop and noticed there was adware. I ran malwarebytes and cleared it but was curious as to how they didn't survive.
The thing about malware is that sometimes it can stick around on your LAN and spread that way. It could spread to your other computers on the system and then after you wipe the initial system that was infected slowly crawl back
adware usually doesn't behave that way, unless there is deeper stuff involved.
More than likely, the adware has installed itself in multiple places and re-installs a component of it from a component you missed on the sweep.
What
ok
am I the only one who dislikes the "hacker" culture on tiktok
don't get me wrong I don't use tiktok, but from the clips I see on r/masterhacker I get disgusted
like it's getting to the point where it's just a source for skids, considering the target audience of tiktok
sure people getting into infosec is a good thing but it just annoys me that these folks think they can learn infosec in a few days without any fundamentals like networking or programming and instantly become a "l33t h4x0r"
Not a problem if you don't use tiktok.
it is because all of those kids go on to subreddits like r/howtohack and r/hacking... and discord servers like these
I always thought of it as a phase that teenagers go through 🤷♂️
same as wanting to become the president,musician, etc.,
~~enginner :
~~
I think except for twitter almost every major platform has terrible hacking culture and skiddy stuff
even twitter has alot, but it's way better than TT or IG for example.
I tried to look at even just the standard tech/IT communities on clock app, couldn't help but do everything in my power to scrub that 💩 from my timeline.
There are some nice IT people there, mainly the forensics people for some reason.
I just found a painful amount of disinformation/misinformation, and since I don't have the time to make my own vids/posts it wasn't worth being on there.
no captcha present and the icons in the navbar aren't loading, yet i have no errors in my console and every network request is a 200 🤔
does anyone know what may be going on
this is in a fresh vm with fresh firefox - the login page on my host looks fine
Definitely, all the teenagers ik who like computers have gone thru a hacking phase
The problem is that "normal hacking" isn't very exciting content
It's more educational than entertaining and I don't go on those platforms to learn
I’m thinking of learning another programming language, but I’m not sure what to learn. Should I learn C, Go(lang), or some other language?
Depends on what you need / want to know
I kinda wanna do machine learning
but i need to learn A LOT for that
where should i start?
Python would be obvious answer, as its the most popular ml language
Iirc google has free machine learning course
so far i know python, js, html, css
Python for ml then
Like Open AI project?
not sure what that is.
*"learn" to play games
Google for Open AI games, their AI can play game better than humans. There's one where they play Dota 2 and beat top team
oh ok neat! then yeah
Its really interesting, there's also they make 2 team of bot competing each other in hide and seek, and exploit every possible opportunity provided by the game engine
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Sir any way to get subscription discount for students . I have institute mail also if possible to get discount . Please help me
There is a student discount for THM. If I remember correctly, the option to do it yourself isn't working correctly. In order to rectify this you can email support and ask nicely. Please be patient as they are rather busy.
Gotcha
HTML is my favourite programming language
I deadass know C/C++/C#/java/python/ruby/perl but I have 0 HTML knowledge.
LMAO
I know the feeling.. I learned the webdev 3 langs in december after programming in .NET and Python for two years
What’re they?
Html, css, js
Oh I dumb, I though Lau was talking about web 3.0 langs and I was like “we getting HTML 2.0 or sum??”
Tbh css is just literal hell, I can’t think if a “language” more annoying
JS is atleast programming haha
Btw I got a question Lau, are you decent with CTF style reverse engineering? Like encryption reversing and stuff?
Not really. I'm still getting better at low level development for it
I've done some videogame RE once for certain purposes, but haven't really dived into it after that
oh okeh nvm haha
eh kids will be kids lol reality will hit them eventually. lol
yay finally resubed to THM!
@quaint basin ey id like to bring ur attention to what i think is acase of cheating
That's not really a muiri thing
Please inform me who should i contact
Who's cheating?
I talked to some guy in 3rd of feb, he was 0x8, he has no certs , and was happy he got that lvl
I got in contact w em and we talked a bit
Here is my last relevant msg w em
Hey @dusty sleet
Can I get you to email me with an explanation of your report, we will look into it:)
I've seen these guys make videos on all the paths. I think he's legit
There's video proof of him going through the rooms and explaining his process
His most recent video, although i don't know if it's the same person
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Do not distribute or provide access to content involving the hacking, cracking, or distribution of stolen goods, pirated content, or accounts. This includes sharing or selling game cheats or hacks. Not sure if the Oxford comma is confusing me or what. @serene trench This is what I was talking about yesterday.
Yeah I'm just not sure if it's saying to not post content about "hacking, cracking, or distribution of stolen goods, pirated content, or accounts" or if it's saying not to post content about hacking cracking or distribution of "stolen goods, pirated content, or accounts"
They phrased it weirdly haha
the latter
I think so too.
hi
hii
hiii
hii
Combo breaker.
well, arn't you a <insert scottish insult>
No, that's a bit extreme.
ok, I sincerely apologize
well, It's just that I'm not racist at all, just don't like the scottish 😂
that's a jb quote btw 👀
It's ok, half the Scottish don't like the Scottish 😂
Yeah, I remember someone said it.
2020!
noooo, that's just memes 
i just started this on campus job and they're tasking me w/ making activities about blockchain and NFTs 🙃
Doing alright coming up with ideas? Or need some resources?
hi
I'm so sorry
Yeah, I'm not having any difficulties, I just don't wanna lol. Appreciate it though.
It's rough out here lol
No worries, friend of mine works for ProtocolLabs, so I'm sure they've got plenty of resources to recommend if you needed it.
Truly merciless territory
is it a good idea to give my non sudo root user permissions to the opt directory to add things to it?
i plan to use that directory to sort all my scripts and such
im asking because i still dont fully understand the filesystem yet, and why i need to be the sudo root user to make changes (sudo doesnt work, i need to be root user)
what im asking is it makes sense to put my exploits in the opt directory but with the way the default permissions are configured it makes it seem like im not, and i dont want to mess anything up
Sudo will work, but if you're using > etc then that's not part of what runs as root.
Put the exploits in /home/kali/exploits or something
You want as little code running as root as possible
noted noted thank you, that makes sense. I had a cluster***k a while ago bc nothing was organized so im getting tips from ippsec and he placed everything in the opt directory
had to nuke the system bc nothing made sense
You'll get there eventually
Quick question, why does my VPN IP keep changing? I thought with premium you'd have your own unless I'm mistaken or it doesn't work that way
Your machine VPN should be the same, yours changes? Are you changing servers?
Same happens to me sometimes start with beginning one
You ought to stay on the server though xD
Yeppp I like this community waay more
I just prefer the challenges and CTF style of HTB better
More challenging, I like that about it too but I feel like it’s a little annoying
hello
I need a cheap linux vm 4gb ram rhel , to run an oracle db, I would like a static IP or maybe something like ngrok, I explored azure and its kinda pricey , anyone can recommend something else ?
I'm not changing servers
It takes time.
strange, as your THM IP is created then attached to your account.
I've had about four changes now
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what flavor is vegeta
Vanilla flavor 😋
Man 
quick question about obsidian. I would like to use it for only making note, but what if obsidian disappear one day? Saving files is in different format then txt file no?
Obsidian saves all the notes in .md files which are basically like .txt (you can open them with anything that lets you edit text)
Gotcha, thanks. Just tested and it works
👍
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Check out logseq btw, I like it a lot more for quick/simple outlines and structured notes, YMMV but nobody seems to know about this one so I like to shill it lol
Hacks for what?
fn
@radiant jacinth Are you sure?
yes please
-ban @radiant jacinth Asking for fortnite hacks
🔨 Banned cj styl#7929 indefinitely
lol
was almost done with a full port nmap scan and then i accidentally forgot to hold shift while trying to copy some text. I hate myself
Want a cool tip to avoid this?
Control insert and shift insert can be used for copy paste, tends to just plain work in terminals.
Ctrl + Shift can be used to copy that output
Highlight the starting line, scroll to the bottom. Ctrl + Shift + Select the ending line using mouse
Done!
Just use -oN nmap.log 😄
Like the vertical block in vim, SHIFT can be used with CTRL to select a block
e.g. Selecting host IPs from the output of masscan 😅
oooohhh neat neat thanks
I've started using shift insert a lot recently
I have it bound on my 60% keyboard to FN+C/V
It was cheap
Fair
I need to fix the control key(s) on it too, which is one reason behind the keybind
Isn't there middle mouse click to paste text that was last highlighted, it is for my Kali, but not Windows?
No keys are harmed😅
Yeah that's a Linux X thing
X11 server?
IIRC two separate copy buffers are maintained and it's hassle
Like one for highlighted text and one for copied. Middle mouse pastes highlighted
Yeah, there are two buffers.
I can use both of them, for example copy reverse shell payload in one and the machine ip in another 😆
Ctrl + Shift + c/v to copy/paste
And Shift + Insert as you mentioned
What's your exact command for nmap?
Is that 43 minutes👀 ?
lmao
Probably did a -A -p-
sCV is still pretty heavy on all ports
oh did not know. I assumed the scripts was the culprit tho so im just doing plain nmap -p-
Clearly not plain there
lmaooo what is wrong with this year of the rabbit
do i even need all ports for this box
Oh it's a muiri box
--min-rate 5000
Woah
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Yo
yo
if you like this, you'll def like trilium. im shillin too
There's Joplin and obsidian as well which do similar stuff
I'm a Joplin user for the last 2 years
Haven't tried that one. I've been bouncing around a few for years and recently settled on trilium (hopefully permanently)
So far so good
Trilium > *
You must have shares or something.
In an opensource product?
The fact it's FOSS is a big part of why I like it 🤷♂️
It wasn't bad, I just don't think it's right, I figured it's better to say that, than leave it at nothing.
does it offer authentication and integrations?
it doesn't have integrations but it has the option to set up a password
You can build plugins for it, aye
o.o
oh, our dev might've already built that!
like a plugin for ad integration in javascript
Ew
based on AD groups and so un for different level of access
yeah, active directory
Thought you meant ad as in adverts
ew, hell naw
Yeah, I don't think you could get it working with AD natively -- when I say plugins I mean more usability things
Wouldn't be hard to stick it behind single sign-on though
yeah, that's the point of o365 integration 🙂
Because i want to find a solution for our security related stuff, and sharepoint is ew
so i'm still considering between, notion, this one now and obsidian
Have bootkits and rootkits been evolving a lot since 2015?
I'm asking because the book I'm reading was published in 2019 and only has examples from 2007 -> 2015
it's got a basic auth, but I was able to shove it behind a keycloak
using shenanigans that I need to finish documenting...*sigh
good evening thm 🙂
Confluence is good if your org doesn't mind spending money. Otherwise, there are plenty of wiki style products FOSS or not that can fulfill that role much better than SharePoint
I figured that out. I might give it a go
Please, don't mention confluence it's bleagh
it's only as bleagh as you make it be - as far as maintaining a record of team actions, hosting reports, and having templates for specific kinds of activities, it's hard to beat when it's used correctly
boo Jira 😦
Joplin/Obsidian/Notion is normie tier lol 😛
As soon as I figure out a clean PDF annotation solution for vimwiki, I'm outie like Tim Towdi
Trilium looks pretty sweet, reminds me of SiYuan.
Especially if I can reproduce Dendron-style hierarchical.dotseparated.filenames in a flat structure but with WYSIWYG
(Dendron has fast-search / templating / logic for easy refactoring of that structure though, not sure if that's as easy to mimic)
anyone wanna solve tryhackme machine with me
first time I heard of dendron and it looks great, but I don't like that it's yet another vscode extension I'd have that would start when i open whatever directory in vscode (which I do a lot)
Separate apps like obsidian/trilium work better for me personally because they don't interfere at all with anything else
Yeah, I don't use VSCode but I assumed there was some way to segregate that lol
At least the philosophy/methods of Dendron (well-documented in the wiki) can be extracted and migrated
Anyone know a way to know what ports are passed through a firewall? Without access to it?
Who owns this firewall?
Working with school, Aruba equipment
If you're working with a school they should be able to tell you what ports are open
And if it's for a class the teacher should be able to guide you on how to accomplish this
Hoping to bounce some thoughts off someone and see if anyone else is in my situation?
Best just to present it
I did some security work in the past and now I'm getting back into it. I get so far in learning but then there are so many different technologies, protocols, tool combinations, etc... that I start to feel like I'm tossing my brain against a brick wall and start to regress in knowledge. It was that way the first go round and I'm getting to that point again. Not sure if that's normal and if anyone else ever feels like that?
How long ago was it?
It was about 4 years ago the first go round.
A lot of it should be the same still
Windows is still here, Linux is still here, both are still vulnerable.
My struggle is trying to understand all of the fine details of every technology so that when I approach a target I know what opportunities exist. This is particularly true when it comes to networking technologies. I feel like I learn and forget far more than I retain. Is that normal for other practitioners? Constantly re-researching things you've already researched?
Do you keep notes?
And yeah, I keep re-reading stuff when appropriate but the hope is that having learnt it, it's much quicker next time
Yes on the notes.
That offers some reassurances that I'm not just old and forgetful. 🙂 Thank you.
I'm 20 and I still need to go on MDN every time I do webdev
Lol. I think I may be trying to absorb too many technologies at once. How much time do you recommend spending learning and attempting to exploit a particular technology, say SMB, before moving on to something else?
I have a question for you James, do you believe MacOS is a good example of “Obscurity Over Security”?
Not any more than any other OS. MacOS is derived from BSD, but I'm not sure how often Apple integrated BSD changes and pulls in security updates from BSD.
My belief is that getting the MacOS system in order to test it is discouraging for most exploit developers and so it’s not really secure but more obscure, did that make sense?
Criminals gonna criminal. Not sure if blackhat exploit devs are going to abide by whatever TOS apple puts out
If im reading this correctly this is what you were angling towards correct?
AFAIK Apple allows limited downloads for their OS - it's possible to hack their OS to run on non Apple approved hardware, although that is a violation of their ToS and I do not recommend that route.
There were some viruses and exploits that targeted Mac, but they don't really get used as a vector very much because ransomware is much more profitable
That’s true, but setting up a Hackintosh takes a LONG time and is just a lot of effort, while getting a linux / windows machine is just a few minutes.
It's also profitability that dictates where the viruses are going to go
I meant more as it’s just a hustle, criminals with get it illegally but most won’t bother haha
Buy a mac mini and run a mac VM there; I'd double check the license and TOS to make sure you are able to evaluate the security of the VM appropriately. Apple has taken a dim view of security researchers looking at their products as well
Legitimate researchers have pried it open, but Apple definitely doesn't like it
Windows has a much larger marketshare and thus is more likely to be a success for the bad actor. APTs on the other hand likely don't give a damn
I just don’t see people that aren’t doing this stuff professionally and it is their main source of income buying it, could just be me though.
It could also be they want to remain out of apple's line of site and legal wallet
It's niche. Like being very knowledge about AIX security
Yeah that makes sense, Thanks!
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Yeah no one likes Apple
Just as juun said, it really is very niche
Even Apple users like me don't like Apple
I’m an Apple user, never had any other phone and I absolutely love mine, F*ck Apple.
Heh, I mean apple pooters
I'm an android fanboy all the way
I wouldn’t be surprised if the government is running them to make people pay more tax

I had the very first iPhone, didn't like it, so went back to android a few days later, haven't touched them since.
I used the iphone4 for a while, then permanently switched to android
Not like it?
It was good, just limited basically,
like no third party or testing apk you built in android studio, limited filesystem access, no external storage and most of all, relatively expensive then the android ones
ah.
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I didn't get/understand that?
Jailbreak
Ah, yeh did that on an ipad I got as a gift recentlyb
But still, android > iPhone for tech people IMO
I don't think I'd ever go to iPhone, I think the next phone I'll get is the Samsung S22 ultra
