quiet-conversation

[dull dove]

you aren't you're supposed to use google translate

I get it from jabbas point of view

[burnt night]

Creating even more of a burden on mods. That's why the rule is there.

[dull dove]

Yeah, I understand why it's there

[twin ridge]

Oh wait that might dox me a bit...

Potato take 2

[indigo oasis]

oh that looks delicious

[twin ridge]

couldn't find any celery though 😦

[indigo oasis]

what's in it?

[supple mauve]

See what? <MIB flash>

[indigo oasis]

Hydra's amazing cooking skills obv

[twin ridge]

potato, green/white/red onion, cucumber, bacon, chorizo

[supple mauve]

Sounds good

[dull dove]

No blood?

[twin ridge]

dressing with plain yogurt, mayonnaise, balsamic vinegar, Worcestershire sauce, garlic, celery salt and pepper

[burnt night]

Blegh mayo

[indigo oasis]

Very nice and yeah fresh celery would have added that crunchiness to it but it still looks good!

[twin ridge]

not that much mayo

[indigo oasis]

How is mayo blegh????

[twin ridge]

cucumber is crunchy-ish, as are the onions

[indigo oasis]

True and it still looks and sounds delicious!

[supple mauve]

There's a Spanish dish quite similar to that, we call it 'Russian salad', which doesn't make much sense tbh 😂

[burnt night]

I think a lot of European countries have russian salad, I've had a lot of it on my trips to the Netherlands

[supple mauve]

Didn't know that. Never seen it outside of Spain. But then maybe the name makes some sense

[twin ridge]

In northern Italy/SouthEastern France they call it a "Piedmontaise"

or whatever the equivalent italian is

[indigo oasis]

The only one I've heard of "Franzosiche" salad in Hungary which I'm assuming is French salad?!

[twin ridge]

or a salad by a guy named Franz

[supple mauve]

So western Europeans call it Russian salad and Eastern Europeans call it French salad 😅

[indigo oasis]

Maybe Franz Ferdinand made it

[twin ridge]

he was Austrian though

[indigo oasis]

They're neighbours

Weren't they Austro-Hungarian or something back then though? The Haupstadts? I forgot the name now let me google this

[twin ridge]

oh this is also true

[indigo oasis]

Habsburg

[celest cairn]

oops I totally thought that was popcorn at first glance lmao

[rapid summit]

So... We had a reservation to a restaurant, now it's closed due to lack of staff, as most of the staff is in quarantine due to COVID 😬

[twin ridge]

oops

[rapid summit]

Well, at least they're taking it seriously.

[warm karma]

hello

i am not able to view the students subscripting discount

[rapid summit]

But they probably have to, they're listed as one of the top restaurants in the country. Sadly another one in the city was fully booked today.

[rapid summit]

😄 driving in Lapland with a few bugs

[celest cairn]

must get car detailed

[serene trench]

Hell yeah

[dusty sleet]

shogaf ? (smoked lamb)

[serene trench]

lamb, chicken, x3 different peppers, baby potatoes, roasted carrot and celery 😄

@dusty sleet

Also done mushrooms for my friend but I don't eat them so I didn't put them on mine 😄

[dusty sleet]

similar to what I ate today, I had smoked shogaf and kebab, sadly no pics 😄

[serene trench]

that sounds so good hehe!

One of those those I ate it too quickly to take a photo of sort of thinngs?

I'm like that fajitas

They last for around 25 seconds around me LMAO

[dusty sleet]

I was cooking it for more than 3 hours so I was so exhusted to think about taking pics lmao

I am buying a big wood chunk tmmrw so I can use it as a plate

[serene trench]

Hahaha I feel you on that

[serene trench]

OOH nice!

[dusty sleet]

similar to this but bigger

[serene trench]

We have Plankstek in our household all the time. Serve it on a big wooden plank it's so good

[dusty sleet]

and more natural

will take photos next friday

[serene trench]

Plankstek & Fiskplanka chefs kiss

[dusty sleet]

italian cheff kiss

[serene trench]

oh no why is discord refusing to upload

but yeah that is plankstek -- sooooo good

[twin ridge]

That looks familiar

[rapid summit]

How about this from ten minutes ago? (Just past midnight)

[twin ridge]

midnight sun, eh?

haven't been that far north

[rapid summit]

Mmh. Although where I am now, the sun still sets.

[twin ridge]

looks like a ski resort

[remote sail]

I miss skiing

[rapid summit]

Well it is, Ounasvaara in Rovaniemi, Finland.

[supple mauve]

How long does the night last in there? By night I mean actual darkness 😅

[rapid summit]

Over here there's dusk for an hour and a half at the moment. No actual darkness. Where I'm heading next, the sun will set on July 21st.

[supple mauve]

Damn... that must be odd to experience for the first time

[rapid summit]

Well I was born around these latitudes, it's not that impressive to me 😄

[supple mauve]

haha I guess

[rapid summit]

Just like I was visiting Switzerland, the people there said "mountains are meh, sea is the thing to see"

[supple mauve]

What is exotic for some is completely normal for others, makes sense

[indigo oasis]

Yay sunset ❤ I love love this!!

[supple mauve]

I'm used to see mountains, lots where I'm from, but not as high as what you see in the Alps, so I still ended up being amazed by those

[silk peak]

many more happy returns of the day @lapis dagger 🍰

[lapis dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-kind-sir-ty-kind-sir-ty-thank-you-sir-thanks-gif-14605906

[white zodiac]

.

[fierce timber]

wait , @lapis dagger i'm also from india

[tawdry dove]

Do we live in the same place?

Dammit I forgot to attach the picture

It's so much worse in the License plate region lol

Driving last night it was like my windshield was getting hit with rocks. I think I used half a tank of wiper fluid

[serene trench]

I dread to imagine what your radiator/ac grill/filter looks like 😄

[tawdry dove]

I hate how discord crops your view and then uncrops when uploading the images

[remote sail]

Try driving down in florida swampland with bright off-road light bars running. It's like a hailstorm of giant insects

[rapid summit]

@tawdry dove I think I was eating last night next to Nili I think you mentioned.

Dinner with a view

[final path]

Is that a Subaru?

[pallid citrus]

Thinking of washing car? Oh it's pollen time. Pollen time over? Bugs everywhere...fml

[tawdry dove]

I was in Monongahela. It was brutal

[tawdry dove]

Yep. 2015 outback 3.6r

[pallid citrus]

Poor BMW

[rapid summit]

Especially when it's a Volvo

[final path]

Awesome, I've been rockin' a 2017 forester. Not a huge fan of the CVT but otherwise it's a great car. Glad I got it when I did with this chip shortage lol. Nearly impossible to find new ones up here

[pallid citrus]

Volvo? Hmmmh I was sure it's a bmw or a skoda

[final path]

I've been eyeballing the crosstrek a bit, though. I kind of like it

[pallid citrus]

Yesterday waa the first time in perhaps 5 years I swam in natural waters 😆

[tawdry dove]

I don't think the CVT is as bad as everyone claims. The OG ones were absolutely garbage but the ones they use now are fairly solid it seems. Personally, I think the subaru purists are just really salty about not having a 5MT anymore

[final path]

Oh for sure, it's not the reliability for me, it's the response time from it that I dont really like. They have really come a long way

[tawdry dove]

Mmmm Nili. My favorite Finnish restaurant. and the only one I've been to

[final path]

Also, that new green color they rolled out is just.... 😩 👌

[tawdry dove]

Agreed. The timing is a little weird to get used too with the spool up of the CVT

[final path]

I gotta pre-plan my sanic acceleration lol

[tawdry dove]

Lol

[rapid summit]

Nabo next to it was good as well. And it was only our third choice after Sky Kitchen & View (closed due to COVID quarantines in staff) and Gustav (fully booked for yesterday)

[tawdry dove]

Yeah, the CVT isn't my issue with it. It's the fact that subaru put 18 inch rims on a vehicle that is supposed to bring you places other vehicles can't get

Now I have to spend probably $1200 to drop a rim size

[final path]

Yeah, I noticed that when my forester was next to my mother's 2021. I had the same thought, like what are they doing?

[tawdry dove]

Yeah we totally didn't expect to be able to walk in without a reservation at Nili. We drove down from Alta and were like, "let's just walk in and try"

[final path]

I keep getting the new outbacks confused with the foresters, too. They just looks so similar now

[tawdry dove]

Try an Outback next to an Ascent

I've been looking at lifted outbacks and they look almost identical if you look quickly

[final path]

Lemme pull up a side by side

Wow you're not kidding one bit

[tawdry dove]

Yeah lol

I wish they kept the llbean trim a permanent option

[pallid citrus]

Gustav is 5/5

Never been to Nili, since most of the food is just fancied up food of the stuff I grew up with

[dusty sleet]

name this channel food already lmao

[rapid summit]

Yeah, had a reservatipn there, covid messed that up, now it messed up the other reservation as well

[pallid citrus]

If you're travelling across Lapland Aanaar is also a good place to stop and eat

But yeh, Gordon Ramsay visited Gustav last fall/early winter and was "This is good stuff"

[rapid summit]

yep, I know about the place. Not sure if they're open though 🙂

[pallid citrus]

Their website says they are

[rapid summit]

Yep, looks like it. Now pondering if 🙂 It's likely worth it.

[pallid citrus]

Also if you're still in Rovaniemi and like pizzas, try out Pure Pizza

[rapid summit]

We're already at Kaunispää. Aanaar is pretty close by now.

And Saariselkä restaurants... aren't that special 🙂

[pallid citrus]

Ooh nice places. When I was a child we went to Kiilopää many times. Also the spa at Saariselkä 👍

[rapid summit]

For the scenes and atmosphere, this is one of my favourites. For food, not so much 🙂

[pallid citrus]

We have a place to dig for gold around there too

Though I havent had the time to go there for many summers

Trivia knowledge; The Bachelor s21 was partly filmed there

[rapid summit]

oh no 😄

[remote sail]

SPeaking of chip shortages, motorcycles are hard to come by right now too

[rapid summit]

good

[rapid summit]

Well, I sent them an inquiry about availability of tables. Lessee 🙂

[meager mason]

Am glad I got in when I did. :D

[pallid citrus]

Alright, waiting for that food review

[meager mason]

Pretzels, anyone?

It's traditional German but I made a garlic butter baste for it and layered the smoked sea salt over it.

[dusty sleet]

looks like a snake

[rapid summit]

Sorry, no availability 😦

[meager mason]

I did another

[dusty sleet]

SNEK EGG

[pallid citrus]

Aww shame

[twin ridge]

No eat snek

[meager mason]

Bred snek is not snek.

Also, if snek doesn't want to be eaten, snek should stop being so delicious.

[odd acorn]

Varg sleeeeeeep

[slate vine]

🍞

[runic remnant]

looks good

[novel geyser]

Hows it going everyone

[dusty sleet]

You are just trying to justify you eating snek without snek's consent

[steel plover]

Grilled p-chop and grilled veggies

[tawdry dove]

I thought you were eating out of a cardboard box for a second

[novel geyser]

That's def what it looks like at first glance

[tidal pelican]

looks delicious

[steel plover]

naw that is the grilling pan so my veggies don't fall in

[lapis dagger]

same lol

[tawdry dove]

Yep once I looked closer I realized it was the same one my mother has for the grill

[steel plover]

got it for christmas, this is the second time I used and it is really great

[tawdry dove]

Yeah, before I moved we would do broccoli on the grill

Cauliflower too

[steel plover]

I like it because you can cut the veggies first, will have to try broccoli and cauliflower

[tawdry dove]

Yeah do florets only, unless you really like stalks.

The broccoli florets get nice and crispy and start to separate. The cauliflower gets nice and soft with a little crunch

[soft oriole]

30 days of non-stop hacking 🔥 Made it to the Global Top 5000! 🥳 😃 Next goal: Top 2000 🙂

[sweet moat]

ayyy awesome! :)

[remote sail]

You act like that's a bad thing.... Pizza lives in cardboard boxes. 🍕

[spring frost]

great job

i wanna make it to top 10 lmao

jus started rn

[indigo garnet]

i need help if my mom sees kali on vmware that i installed im dead

help

[burnt night]

I recommend having a constructive conversation with your parents then

Show them salary figures for cybersec professionals

[celest cairn]

then install Debian and add Kali repos+packages

[autumn fox]

Your Mum knows what Kali and Vmware is ? My parents barely know how to switch a laptop on

[indigo garnet]

she is an electrical engineer

[indigo garnet]

as the main os?

[autumn fox]

oh fair enough I guess

[indigo garnet]

ye

[celest cairn]

yeah

[remote sail]

use kali-undercover? 🙂

or, as James suggested, have a conversation with your parents. That's the smart way to solve it

[burnt night]

Especially when the salary figures come out

If you have to hide a very lucrative career from your parents, there's a problem

[remote sail]

this

and getting an early start on learning will only advance your career

[burnt night]

Especially when you have safe environments like THM to try it out in, where you're fairly safe from mis-steps that'd get you in trouble.

[remote sail]

Of course- like most tools, it can be used for good or evil. We're big on doing things ethically here. Don't do bad things with your tools or knowledge

[velvet walrus]

Got sub two days ago I’m coming for you

[soft oriole]

Catch me If you can 😏😉 Waiting for you😃

[velvet walrus]

or you can ask your Mum to get in contact with one of the members of Staff and make sure for herself it’s safe for her child to be exposed to this material @indigo garnet

[radiant jacinth]

@velvet walrus can you send me your banner in dms lmfaoo

[vivid mesa]

yo that banner is 🔥

[autumn trout]

UK People, appreciate if you could retweet this. Not for my ego but because more people in the UK need to understand how technology works and more about marginalised groups https://twitter.com/bee_sec_san/status/1415050903808135171

🐝 Bee 🇨🇦🇬🇧 (@bee_sec_san)

In the UK, over 600k people have signed a petition to make it a requirement to provide identification when signing up to social media.

Let me tell you why this hurts marginalised people and is a very bad idea.

#trackatroll

Twitter · Jul 13, 2021, 8:50 PM

[rapid summit]

Having an id requirement a common argument that people make and claim that would make discussions more civil. As if. You know what people say with their own name and face.

[burnt night]

Requiring it in the UK just means people will VPN outside the UK.

[rapid summit]

cue a requirement for banning VPNs

[steel plover]

simple solution, don't use social media

[vivid mesa]

You know what people say with their own name and face.
Just reminded me of this. Not quite relevant to the discussion on having ids and all but yeah

[tacit yew]

ID checks would be a barrier to service, which I doubt most social media platforms would want to make mandatory for everyone. It hurts people and the platform, and I doubt it would have much affect on discourse. If you choose to use social media, you open yourself up to speech you may not like or agree with; an ID requirement isn't going to change that.

[burnt night]

which I doubt most social media platforms would want to make mandatory for everyone The petition is a call to government action

So it'd be mandated. The platform would either comply, or stop serving the UK.

[tacit yew]

That is really unfortunate. I don't know much about how Govt operates in the UK. Do petitions like this actually make headway there?

[burnt night]

If x amount of signatures then they have to discuss it

It's been rejected already

[tacit yew]

Thats a neat process, can it be brought up again with another petition or is it dead in the water now?

[burnt night]

I think it can be brought up again, but it's kinda clear it'll be rejected for the immediate while

[tacit yew]

Thanks for the info, hopefully the issue falls to the way side until people can become more educated about all the implication that come with something like that. The UK has a habit lately of voting for things without thinking about how it will affect them

[hoary nymph]

Gave +1 Rep to @burnt night

[burnt night]

It's non-technical people trying to write technical laws without consulting the experts.

It's a tale as old as time itself, and pretty much everywhere.
UK is at least in the process of rewriting the main piece of "hacking" law at the moment though, with consultation open.

[tacit yew]

Which law? I tried searching it but only got hits for the GCHQ piece from many years ago

[burnt night]

Computer Misuse Act

[radiant jacinth]

This is all I could find https://inews.co.uk/news/technology/cyber-crime-and-hacking-law-to-be-formally-reviewed-priti-patel-announces-996092

[burnt night]

https://www.theregister.com/2020/06/29/computer_misuse_act_reform_cyberup_letter_pm/

Yea

Bee tweeted about it, but I don't think they're around RN

[radiant jacinth]

Thats great news tbh

[burnt night]

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/computer-misuse-act-1990-call-for-information Here's the official doc for it

[tacit yew]

Interesting; thanks for this, I'll be following it closely. Hopefully they make meaningful change. I wonder how many people have been affected by this law that weren't actually malicious.

[tawdry dove]

US has a similar system

I think its 100k signatures? And the executive branch has to respond

[burnt night]

At least here, they can 100% respond by dismissing it outright. Simply a "Nah we ain't doin this"

[tawdry dove]

Yeah, pretty much the same. The executive will write a long winded no most of the time

[odd acorn]

Wonder if they’ll sort out port scanning being a grey area

[spark sun]

Dinner tonight was on point

[steel plover]

looks good, don't get relish on your fancy keyboard

[spark sun]

of course not

[tawdry dove]

Good looking weiners

[spark sun]

I should have chopped a bit of onion too - addition for tomorrow

[steel plover]

don't forget the kraut

[radiant jacinth]

mmm delish

I love how the plate matches everything

[remote sail]

Juun, I think you have the same mouse and keyboard I do

[spark sun]

Work paid for mine 🙂 we got a WFH stipend around June last year

[radiant jacinth]

😋 😋 😋

[velvet walrus]

sure friend

[velvet walrus]

thank you kind sir

[hoary nymph]

Gave +1 Rep to @vivid mesa

[tawdry dove]

Huh so apparently we're supposed to get hit by a Solar storm today/tomorrow

[velvet walrus]

wasnt she the person who was exposed by a football plare on twiter or smthn... According to Priti Patel's logic the police owning a gun to fight crime is also illegal

[burnt night]

@velvet walrus Let's try to avoid politics here.

[velvet walrus]

all good mb

[radiant jacinth]

God knows I was only looking for info on the discussion previous

[dusty sleet]

on leg

[lapis dagger]

ghost ping ;-;

-undelete -a

[radiant jacinth]

Good morning everyone

does internal traffic (127.0.0.1) count as the "transfer" quota cloud services limit?

[tawdry dove]

@lapis dagger

[lapis dagger]

haiiiiiiii

[tawdry dove]

ghost ping

[lapis dagger]

:)

[lapis dagger]

ah so got it

[rapid summit]

King crab soup followed by perch

[lapis dagger]

why is that so less 😛

[rapid summit]

The plates are just huge 😄

[lapis dagger]

oh lol

[rapid summit]

also, I need to up the ratio of food posts on this channel

[tawdry dove]

Because not 'Merica

[steel plover]

I know many fancy places in america that serve with plate to food ratio off

[tawdry dove]

Yeah the hoity toity places

[steel plover]

last time I went to an Applebee's they were super bad about it

[tawdry dove]

The only reason to go to Applebee's is the alcohol

Either that or it's the only thing to do in the area... Like Vermont

[rapid summit]

Usually when I go to dinner with my coworkers from 'Merica, they order extra sides with everything. I find that odd 🙂

[tawdry dove]

That is odd

[rapid summit]

"Hey I need fries with that spaghetti dish" 😛

[steel plover]

depends on the side, but fries and spaghetti is gross

when I was in Asia, I usually had to order more food than normal just to get full

[tawdry dove]

Yeah that I can understand but the fries is weird and not normal

[smoky mortar]

Sides is the American version of tapas. 😄

[burnt night]

Jalapeno with bacon?

[tacit yew]

yup! jalapeno poppers ❤️

A staple food in the US

[burnt night]

I thought they were breaded?

[tacit yew]

They can be breaded and fried, but I prefer not to

you've already wrapped it in bacon, also frying it is like.... a hat in a hat.

[tawdry dove]

https://tenor.com/view/calgary-stampede-midway-food-snack-gif-3404721

[tacit yew]

America is #1...in obesity.

[serene trench]

Bbq bbq bbq

[tacit yew]

hot pot!

[rapid summit]

I think this is not correct, the correct ranking is around #14.

[tacit yew]

It was hyperbole >.>

but wow, that far down on the list? Im curious now

[rapid summit]

It's topped by small island nations.

[tawdry dove]

Gib doggo hot pot

[tacit yew]

nanner only gets people food on her birthday and on thanksgiving/xmas

[formal grove]

Hahahaha am hungry 😋😂

[indigo garnet]

so, i wanna install kali on a vm, but if my parents see kali they'll beat my ass i need advice

because they'd be pissed if they saw me learning hacking

halp

[tawdry dove]

@burnt night

[burnt night]

@indigo garnet We literally answered this less than 24 hours ago.

You're not going to get different answers by asking again.

[indigo garnet]

you did?

i'm dumb

[burnt night]

#quiet-conversation message

[indigo garnet]

thx man

[hoary nymph]

Gave +1 Rep to @burnt night

[indigo garnet]

well, they want me to learn coding, and have actually put me into java camps before i start high school (cuz that's what they teach here) but my mom will just say "you don't understand & don't need it"

[burnt night]

Then it's up to you to disprove that.

But you should not be hiding that sort of thing, and we won't help you with it here.

[indigo garnet]

my mom isn't exactly that open minded

at all

[burnt night]

Doesn't matter.

Have a discussion. Not an argument.

[indigo garnet]

i'll try my best to be diplomatic

[burnt night]

Show that you do understand, and there's a lucrative career path.

[indigo garnet]

ok

thank you

[tawdry dove]

What country are you? If you want to answer. Look up the salary for your area for cyber security jobs and make a little presentation

Show how understaffed the security sector is and talk about job stability

[burnt night]

Security is one of few fields that actually grew during the pandemic too.

[smoky mortar]

Add the word Ethical and mention Cyber Security Professional as a job. 🥳

[indigo garnet]

wow this is helpful

[indigo garnet]

so, my dad is more chill and i did tell him i wanted to learn ethical hacking and he still kinda freaked out

[tawdry dove]

I think you said your mom was EE. Talk about how cyber security plays into that career field as well

[indigo garnet]

i did, thank you sir

[hoary nymph]

Gave +1 Rep to @tawdry dove

[burnt night]

So the question is, why do you want to learn cybersec?

[tawdry dove]

Show THM, HTB, etc to them as well

[indigo garnet]

it seems like a fun field, and i think it will give me a new insight into problem solving, because aren't hackers the people who built operating systems and the internet?

[burnt night]

Not really, no.

[indigo garnet]

either way, it will give me some form of insight as to how software works

[burnt night]

Not really, again.

That'd be software development really

[tawdry dove]

No that was mathematicians, physicists, and engineers of varying disciplines

[indigo garnet]

alright, well then i'm going to find reasons to why i should/shouldn't learn cybersec

[spark sun]

It can? But not really. Security as an aspect of enterprise management really isn't as technical as you think. 99% of the time, security is very boring. The 1% of the time it isn't boring is the time that someone (possibly you) is going to have a very bad time of it.

[indigo garnet]

i also wanna mention that i want to work as an analyst when i grow up

specifically an intelligence analyst

[spark sun]

If want to understand how software works, start with a language and go deep with it until you have to learn hardware. Then you can start learning where the corners are to break stuff

[indigo garnet]

ok

[spark sun]

Intelligence analysis and software are two very, very different things with only a bit of data science in common

[indigo garnet]

https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/careers/what-does-an-intelligence-analyst-do#:~:text=Intelligence analysts need a minimum,degree in a related field.

[tawdry dove]

Just be aware that's some, not all, intelligence analyst positions will be looking for prior military service in MOS' such as MI, Cyber, etc

If thats the type of intelligence you're referring to

[spark sun]

Ok.... That's pretty much what I just told you, except in a lot more detail. Software development experience is not necessary.

A lot of organizations have roles that aren't explicitly called 'intelligence analyst' but lump those tasks in with the SOC analyst role. In my experiences interviewing SOC analyst candidates, most of them have a great deal of experience in sysadmin or network log analysis and very little programming experience, except whatever bash or powershell they picked up along the way

[smoky mortar]

Threat Intelligence Analyst, that is quite different from the Intelligence Analyst you see in movies. 😄

Patriot Games 😄

[tawdry dove]

I don't know how old you are but all of the government agencies, at least in the US, have high school programs to allow kids to see what the work is like

[indigo garnet]

hold on lemme choose a career real quick

[tawdry dove]

There are also high school level competitions. Maybe see if you can get a teacher on board and start a club

[indigo garnet]

i'm going from middle to high

i'm in summer from 8th grade to 9th grade

at a speech and debate camp during break

[tacit yew]

Information Assurance, might be a job title a little less frightening to your parents.

[smoky mortar]

😄

[indigo garnet]

everything frightens them

everything

[tacit yew]

Don't sweat it too much, your young. The cyber field is going to look very different by the time your ready to take up the profession. Get good grades, enjoy being a kid for a little while.

[dusty sleet]

much wise

[indigo garnet]

ok ok, you dont know me but

1. i'm preparing for a rigorous math competition, trying to make the top 5% (my parents are psychopaths)

2. my mom (is probably) bipolar, as proof i was in a car ride and she switched between i love you please do us proud do well to goddamn, you never do anything around the house

3. my dad also wants me to do coding (he's more chill than my mom but still has anger issues)|

4. at some point in high school i'm going to do f=ma, a physics olympiad

5. and this is summer

i'd say i lost my innocence by age 8

i'm now 14, and ppl around me say i'm a 40 year old man in a teenager's body (which idk man)

[dusty sleet]

bruh no

[rapid summit]

tbh that doesn't sound like bipolar. The episodes tend to be way longer than minutes and hours.

[indigo garnet]

ok, she has completely irrational mood swings

is that a better term?

[dusty sleet]

look man, ur parents are trying really hard to do the best for you, you will come to appreciate that above all this in following years, you will realise how rare and precious that is

for now

enjoy being a kid doesnt mean acting silly

[rapid summit]

I guess it is.

[tacit yew]

That sounds rough, have you thought about talking to someone you trust about it? It must be a lot of pressure on you.

[dusty sleet]

if u can be productive while also being noisy be it

[indigo garnet]

i have 2 close friends & you guys

the main reason i'm using thm is because

well no good reason

i need a hobby man

[tacit yew]

As someone who also grew up with overbearing parents, I can say they likely mean well, even if they don't always go about it in the right ways. They are just people too, and people make mistakes. Its important to talk to people about it, if only to keep yourself from imploding. Your in a really tough age, because you want to set boundaries with your parents, but you aren't really allowed to because they don't see you as "grown up" enough.

[indigo garnet]

i am full well aware of that, and i understand that my parents try the best. it's just that, no matter how much motivation and intent, the means by achieving them have to be taken into consideration

[rapid summit]

What you see as irrational mood swings might indicate stress on their part. Whatever the reason - but as @tacit yew said, they're also people. They have their limits.

[dusty sleet]

parenting is hard

[rapid summit]

And to handle other responsibilities on top of that, it can be hard to handle.

[dusty sleet]

whatever you do will backfire

[tacit yew]

Hence the boundaries. You may be discinclined to, but I went to a school counselor for a similar situation and it was really helpful to have a 3rd party involved to sort of mediate both sides. You get the oppurtunity to be heard, and your parents get the insight of another adult that doesn't have such a strong emotional interest

[indigo garnet]

that's great but

what school?
it's summertime

my main grudge towards my parents is not teaching me how to behave as a child, rather just slapping me until i cried. i didn't know that what i was doing was bad, and now i don't see them as respectable role models. the truth is, they can't agree with each other. they are physically incapable of it. any time they do, they're just cracking down on me and my brother.

[tacit yew]

Nothing is solved over night, sumemr is almost over and a whole new chapter in your life will start when high school begins. Just hang in there, talk to your close friends about your situation, and try to remember that your parents only want the best for you. No 8th grader should have to be the adult in the family, but when you have highstrung parents with impossible expectations, you kind of have to be. It does get easier, just hang in there.

[indigo garnet]

as soon as i'm 18 i'm just going to leave

the main reason i'm even on THM is so i know that i'm doing something on my own, i have a hobby where i can work with a wholesome community to sharpen my skills with, something to distract me from my life

my life consists of math, coding, physics, speech & debate, and whatever my parents decide for me (plus some minor weightlifting in my spare time) according to my friends,
i
have
no
Life

which is why i got interested in pentesting. it just seems like it would be fun for me

and i'd hate it if even that was restricted

[spark sun]

Pentesting is a lot less fun than you are expecting. Because you will be expected to produce a report that has meaningful value. The activity itself is a lot of fun, but then the report writing has to be done. It is, without a doubt, the most critical part of the entire activity and often the part that is implemented the worst. If you want to be a pentester, awesome, but realize rhetoric&writing is at least as important as technical depth.

[indigo garnet]

i'm a fantastic writer. every english teacher i've ever had + my dad + my brother loves my writing, and i have (i don't mean to be arrogant and toot my own horn here) some good linguistic capabilities, so if you're talking about reporting what i did to a manager, i will enthusiastically

or am i totally misunderstanding here?

[tacit yew]

technical writing is a different skillset than creative writing

But being good at the latter does lend well to the former.

[indigo garnet]

i'm good at explaining things and i'm good at debate

as of right now, i just want to talk to ppl and meet new ppl over my hobby

[tacit yew]

If I were you, I would lean heavily into the coding that you are already doing. Its a great skillset and will really help in the cyber field later on

[indigo garnet]

because i've had a not exactly sheltered upbringing, i tend to be the kid in the back. i'm the quiet kid

[remote sail]

Hey don't be knocking Tom Clancy!

[indigo garnet]

i'm learning java & a lil python on the side

[tacit yew]

knowing web dev front and backend is extremely useful, and Python is always desired

plus, its way more fun than pentesting.

[spark sun]

Not really reporting what you did to a manager, but generating a document that explains your process, the findings, and opens a conversation to find a collaboration that would prevent further intrusion. And technical writing is very different than any other format; reading academic papers, product manuals, and other scientific documentation is a good way to get introduced to that style.

[indigo garnet]

ok

[spark sun]

Learning both languages is great. If you care for my advice, focus on getting depth with one of them. Once you understand the memory and computation model underlying your code, learning other programming languages is not only very easy, but it gives you deeper insight into what the corners of that language environment are and how to work around them.

[indigo garnet]

for the time being, i just want to do pentesting as like a hobby on the side

ya like jazz?

[remote sail]

Re: learning languages, I'd personally recommend Java as a good one to start with (or possibly C#). It wont' allow you to develop some of the bad habits that interpreted languages such as python and javascript do, and it's not so painful or complex as c or c++. But other people here would likely tell you something totally different. But I do write software for a living, so that's just my $0.02.

[indigo garnet]

i'm starting with java because that's what my parents made me do i'm getting ready for high school

[remote sail]

I started writing code when I was younger than you. Getting started young is good 🙂

[indigo garnet]

i'm sorry for this

that's what she said

[indigo garnet]

is that dinner?

[spark sun]

For the next couple of days, yeah

[indigo garnet]

what is it? (srry if i offended you i have a limited knowledge of the world)

[spark sun]

this channel is also the unofficial THM food channel

[indigo garnet]

not true, there'd be more coffee if that was the case

sus

[spark sun]

beef stew. Started with cubed flank steak, added potato, celery, carrots, and spices. Added 20g of corn starch to thicken

[indigo garnet]

that (except for the corn starch) sounds like a whole and nutritious meal

[spark sun]

the corn starch is just a thickening agent - it's not really adding anything except texture

[north roost]

bad plating bc hongry but tonight is turmeric cous-cous with roasted peppers, grilled asparagus, and Beyond sausage

[tacit yew]

Looks good! tumeric is so hard to cook with. How is the beyond sausage?

[north roost]

ty I like it a lot, I usually get it when its on sale since it's a little more expensive than real sausage but it definitely scratches that itch

[radiant jacinth]

Meatballs with bacon lardons, mash, broccoli and red wine gravy.

[burnt night]

Mmm yea

That looks great

[radiant jacinth]

Cheers, also an example of why meal prep isn't a bad idea when you defrost and plate it lol:

When you have 30 minutes for lunch working from home it makes a big difference.

[burnt night]

Yep, I'm a big fan of bulk cooking a beef stew etc and heating a portion each day

[radiant jacinth]

I fist bumped the air, beef stew if my go-to lol

My other staples are a shepherd's pie and a big batch of taco beef mixed with home made mac & cheese.

[burnt night]

My beef stew recipe is actually out there on the internet 👀

[supple mauve]

Is that an OSINT challenge? 😂

[tardy flower]

https://www.cnet.com/news/heinz-starts-petition-to-make-hot-dogs-and-buns-come-in-equal-packs/

Finally. Some good news.

[twin ridge]

That always did annoy me

[tawdry dove]

Fml

[burnt night]

I can one up that: I have a sort of espresso style machine, I overfilled the basket and ended up removing it while it was still under a bit of pressure.
Bomf, coffee grounds all over the counter and machine

[supple mauve]

Is it just not stopping?

[rapid summit]

I think I broke my toe

[tawdry dove]

You cant stop a keurig once it starts. I forgot the cup

[pallid citrus]

Did you kick a helmet?

[rapid summit]

My toe got caught between a pedal and a stone

[supple mauve]

Oh 😂😂😂

[remote sail]

This is when we resort to the "yank the cord" technique.

and/or just put the whole thing in the sink

[tawdry dove]

yeah I just let it go and then dumped the spill guard afterwards

I turned around to do something else and was like " huh the coffee machine sounds weird today"

[remote sail]

This is why (when I do coffee in the mornings, which is rare now), I just do instant coffee. My brain isn't capable of operating something as complex as a coffee machine

[tawdry dove]

Its one button lol which is why this was embarrassing

[remote sail]

and the pod, and the cup. See, way too many steps for that much cognitive load that early in the morning. Clearly. 😉

[spark sun]

that's why I drink a monster first thing in the morning -all the caffine accessible by a pull tab. no need for fancy machines

[smoky mortar]

The cup-present validation rule was missing.

[spark sun]

@tawdry dove Maybe you need an IoT coffee pot that throws a 418 error when it can't brew correctly

[tawdry dove]

I need to get Decaf

3 cups of Coffee and 4 Coke Zeros is like 500mg of Caffeine

Coke Zeros are my drug

[remote sail]

I hate the caffeine withdrawal headaches I get about 24-36hr after I stop drinking it. And I hate being dependent on a chemical. So I try to just not drink coffee, if I can. But there have been times when I literally needed it to survive, so 🤷‍♂️

[steel plover]

my doctor had me lower my caffeine consumption, I have felt a whole ton better since

[tawdry dove]

I like the taste of coffee to much to stop

If I tried I could definitely stop the coke zero

[steel plover]

when I drank coffee it was for the caffeine not the taste

[tawdry dove]

Caffeine or no caffeine I always go at the same pace

I should probably do a zero caffeine week again

[tawdry dove]

Tonight's dinner pairing

[spark sun]

I'll drink to that

[tawdry dove]

I'm excited. I've always wanted this bourbon since before I could legally drink

That and an English Rum that I don't think you can get anymore

[spark sun]

I have a new bottle of rye to open tomorrow; I'm anxious to see how the old fashioned comes out

[tawdry dove]

It was what the Royal Navy gave its sailors and they were liquidating their stock a few years ago. I asked my parents to buy it an hold on to it for me until I could legally drink it and they said no lol

Yeah i bought the Jefferson's Ocean along with a Suntory whiskey the other day

[spark sun]

From what i can tell, the rum you are talking about is this: https://pussersrum.com/products/gunpowder-proof

[tawdry dove]

Uhh idk. This was probably 10 years ago now and the royal navy was getting rid of casks from like 1700s ish

It was something like $200 a bottle

[spark sun]

This is apparently made to the same spec, according to the docs availalbe when the RN discontinued the daily rum allowance in 1970

[tawdry dove]

I barely remember it and would be surprised if I found what it was

I think it might actually be Black Tot

That was the first result when I just googled

I bet if I go through my Google data back between 2012-2016 I could find it

[tawdry dove]

This is weird, I've never had a salty bourbon before

It's got some bite but it's pretty good

[spark sun]

Yeah, I don't think I could drink a salty bourbon. Just sounds like it's a bit too savory to me. Highland malts are about the limit of what bold flavors I like

[tawdry dove]

Yeah it's super subtle

I thought it was salt from my food but it wasn't

[radiant jacinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLtiRGTZvGM

I so want one. Preorders open tomorrow.

[north roost]

suntory toki is my go-to, decent price and better than Jamesons for highballs imo

[tawdry dove]

My Uni bar had a drink called "The Star Wars". I forget what was in it but it was goood

The first time I got it, the stars aligned, and all of the alcohol bottles were close to being finished so they just finished it off into my glass

[pallid citrus]

Nothing beats a mojito in the summer

[supple mauve]

That looks rather decent

[dusty sleet]

That pc looks awesome

[lapis dagger]

u gonna eat pc for dinner? seems a nice idea

[north roost]

ugh almost beer 'o' clock

IPAs are great if your hobbies include sucking on old change

[supple mauve]

It does taste good. Or some of them, at least!

[spark sun]

I enjoy the taste. I do not enjoy the after-taste.

[tawdry dove]

Yeah i hate the hops

"sucking old change" is a great descriptor

Also, anyone else watch farming videos on YouTube?

[spark sun]

There is a couple of homestead-like channels I follow, but usually they turn into a sales machine instead of 'here's how i do stuff' and i stop watching

[tawdry dove]

Yeah that's always unfortunate

I think the last homestead channel I watched was the couple in Utah building a house. They had a 4Runner and a Truck, forgot the name of the channel though

[rapid summit]

Every youtube channel turns into a VPN sales pitch.

[spark sun]

eventually

[tawdry dove]

this discord is brought to you by RAID SHADOW LEGENDS

[north roost]

I love watching those dudes out in the jungle (Indonesia?) build those cool tree-houses and pools

[pallid citrus]

I've been watching this swedish guy build a log cabin...no sponsors, no needless crap...just him building with sounds of the environment

[steel plover]

you must have been looking for a vpn solution recently, I get coding and cybersec ads

[tawdry dove]

I get ads in Spanish

[rapid summit]

nah, I just end up watching videos where a sponsored VPN sales pitch by the youtuber is a part of the video.

[steel plover]

gotta protect yourself, hackers are on every open wifi if you see the ads

[tawdry dove]

What was the one today 🤔 oh yeah I had a febreez and a Cascade Platinum ad today in Spanish

[tawdry dove]

Nah its just me, your friendly neighborhood moose

[steel plover]

well if you stop lurking in the shadows maybe arhu wont get so many vpn ads

[rapid summit]

Or maybe I just stop watching the videos where the author wants to get money by doing sales pitches 😛

[lusty drum]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-secret-chris-pratt-silence-dont-say-gif-17543341

[steel plover]

that's like 90% of youtube though

youtubers all be "like, subscribe, buy my merch, and don't forget my 100 sponsors"

[tawdry dove]

Personally, I don't mind the merch plugs as it's pretty much a direct injection to the creator and you get something back. The sponsors though can get annoying especially if they don't use the product themselves

[radiant jacinth]

Hye guys thanks for watching please be sure to like the video, comment the video, subscribe to my channel, check out our sponsor, back me on patreon, buy my merch, connect with me on linked in, and swipe right on my tinder

[dusty sleet]

also dont forget to donate your first born male son

[radiant jacinth]

[amber karma]

IPAs are amazing!

[vivid mesa]

just gonna drop this out of nowhere

[tawdry dove]

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-fbi-badass-jensen-ackles-jaredpadelecki-gif-4732785

[tawdry dove]

Alright, attempt 562 at cacio e pepe. Here we go

I think next week I'm going to try Italia Squisita's method for Cacio e pepe next week if this one doesn't pan out

[radiant jacinth]

cheese and pepper hmmm tasty

[tawdry dove]

https://tenor.com/view/glee-ryder-ryder-lynn-i-failed-gif-7996056

[meager mason]

Ahh I just watched the Babish episode on it last night.

So. Much. Parmesean.

[spark sun]

I really liked his white castle slider and chop cheese sandwich episodes

[honest oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/steak-wow-tom-and-jerry-open-dog-cat-gif-17026520

[ebon acorn]

Well now im hungry, thanks everyone...

[steel plover]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-starving-feed-me-gif-12251780

[zenith coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-cream-cone-sugar-sweets-candy-gif-16826186

[warm tangle]

Thank you, I'm off to the freezer, mint choc chip with choc sauce I reckon

[serene trench]

that's the way to do it 😎

🍨

[novel venture]

my dudes

would i need port forwarding for a spear phising attack?

[quaint basin]

If you're at the stage of being employed to legitimately perform spear phishing attacks, you would know the answer to that

[novel venture]

i am not

[quaint basin]

Meaning you're not doing this legally, fair assumption?

[novel venture]

my dude, i am just asking

[quaint basin]

Mhm, so am I

[novel venture]

then no, veryyy wrong assumption

[quaint basin]

Okaaaaaay, so, what's the context?

[novel venture]

in general, would someone need that or not?

[quaint basin]

I mean, aside from the fact you seem to be throwing out buzz words, the answer is: it depends.
Given I am 95% sure that this is illegal, you ain't getting any more than that

[novel venture]

are you on your period or smth?

it was just a simple question, lel

[quaint basin]

-ban @novel venture Asking for help performing an illegal spear phish. Got rude (and sexist) when called on it

[hoary nymph]

🔨 Banned Stef#3681 indefinitely

[quaint basin]

Stupid question to ask, if you expect a woman to be irritable.

[frail river]

lmao

what the hell

what was that guy doing

[tacit yew]

Do I need to port forward to access the data at rest on my RAM drive in order to conduct a war driving campaign?

[smoky mortar]

This sounds like a 2014 exam question.

[tacit yew]

I really hope not.

Unless the answer is get out.

[smoky mortar]

Haven't heard that term in years: war driving campaign.

[tacit yew]

yeah I guess wardriving is a bit of a dated concept

but it does have its uses, I just read an article recently about someone in texas wardriving electrical meters to determine who was still getting power and who was getting shut off during their last major blackout

Wouldnt surprise you to learn the answer to that question.

oh, the electrical meters outside your house might be part of a mesh network, surprise surprise.

[smoky mortar]

ICS/SCADA pentesting is an interesting field (literally)

[tacit yew]

its way beyond my skillset, but it is fascinating. This guy set up a whole wiki dedicated towards it

[smoky mortar]

The first challenge is already baselining the security of say 100,000+ endpoints. hahaha

[tacit yew]

I mean, wireless mesh networks just leeeaaaakkkk data as it is. Especially when they use unconventional means of communication. Its not like they are all neatly connected to a WAP

None of it is neatly in plaintext, but its out there in the open to sniff

[smoky mortar]

The question is though what is the associated risk. Starting from that, it becomes more clear how important discovery of plaintext data is in the context of risk. 🙂

If you can read how many cubic gas I use in a month, that's not really actionable data in the context of an adversary.

[tacit yew]

Not actionable to you, and its unlikely someone would be targeting you for your gas usage, but it does paint a picture of how a utility is rationing out a resource, which would be of interest to the public. In the case of Texas, power is privatized, so it could be adversarial to the power company and used against them. If it were to come out that they were giving primarily minority neighborhoods rolling blackouts while the "whiter" sections of the population had uninterrupted access to the utility.

Which is more or less what was going on.

[smoky mortar]

That steers into the political spectrum, which we try to avoid here. 🙂 My interest is more in the defensive/offensive modeling of techniques and counter measures (offensive countermeasures) 😄

[tacit yew]

Fair enough. The defense is that you don't create a network out of devices that didn't really need that capability to begin with. Its like when people install smart thermostats in their home. The benefit of being able to set your temp with a smart phone doesnt really outweigh the risk of hooking it up to the internet.

[smoky mortar]

The safest is to not be on the internet. 😄

[tacit yew]

mesh networks aren't the internet, mind you.

[smoky mortar]

When you are on the internet you can adopt the Assumed Compromise model. 😉

[clear lynx]

I can think of many worse things that should not be connected to the internet. Aside from wasting energy, creating uncomfortable (dangerous?) temperatures, and being a risk of information disclosure, thermostats are pretty tame

Well, and I suppose being an initial foothold into your internal network

[tacit yew]

There are many examples where such devices created backdoors into your private network becaue they actively connect to honeywell's website. You can create googledorks to look for these things. Its not benign.

Honeywell being a common example.

IoT is not a tame risk.

[remote sail]

https://gizmodo.com/intruder-blasting-sprinkler-is-an-ai-powered-substitute-1847274736

[clear lynx]

You don't voluntarily backdoor your private networks? /s

[clear lynx]

I concede

[tacit yew]

Joking aside, in terms of your electical meter being tied into a mesh network of other meters, its a relatively new thing, and deserves a certain level of caution, especially since there are people cracking these things.

Imagine if someone ran your meter up simply because they knew how to interface with these devices

[clear lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[smoky mortar]

IoT is a standards mess, and a security mess, so the foundation of it is a lost cause. Enterprise IoT is a different beast altogether.

[remote sail]

still a security mess

[tacit yew]

From an enduser standpoint, IoT is any home's largest security risk. No one wastes a 0day on granny down the street, but IoT vulnerabilities are usually baked in by the OEM, creating a much larger pool of targets

wifi-enabled LED light bulbs, why? etc etc.

[plucky raft]

Umm, this brings up a question on a similar. Idk, this might be a stupid one (like most things I say) but when we talk about OT security, I've mostly heard people talking about securing SCADA servers and subsystems but nothing really on a network or device level. I was wondering why not introduce something of an encryption or some Network based security? I've asked this before and the most common answer I've got is that OT communication is mostly via wired channels hence they try to prioritise the Physical security in such cases but haven't heard much from a network based perspective.

[tacit yew]

This is a huge topic, and really difficult to answer succinctly. I deal with a few OT scenarios at work, so I'll do my best to cover what I do know. First, OT devices as you mentioned, typically are on wired channels. Additionally, those channels tend to be airgapped, they interface directly with their controller and thats usually the end of the story. What they do, they need to do really, really well, and any extra overhead is often seen as over-engineering. Physical security is a big part of it, too. It is what would be called a "compensating control", or an "inherited control", meaning we can ignore some typical baseline controls in favor of a control that solves a risk adjacently. An example of this would be a PLC device, which handles say, an industrial power device or an industrial A/C unit. The PLC is physically attached to the industrial unit and is only connected to its monitoring system or remote controller, which is typically hardwired to the control system. In order to compromise it, you must compromise the larger control system or have direct access to the PLC. A last consideration, is how highly engineered these devices are. Typically, they run on specialied RTOS embedded kernels, meaning they are outputting data in real-time, which encryption schemes or network based security would simply break because they cannot react and monitor in enough time to ensure any meaningful type of security.

At the end of the day, you are looking at a massive supply chain attack, or an insider threat that would really stand a chance at compromising these devices.

Okay. I did my best on that one. If anyone has more information to add or correct me where I'm wrong please do so, its a really tough topic and depends largely on the specific system your dealing with.

[tacit yew]

https://www.shodan.io/

[plucky raft]

I completely agree with these but it's kinda worrisome that for the security such a crucial component is mostly confided to the physical means and not in the inherent design itself. This can lead to huge impacts in an industrial scenario if a threat actor is somehow able to compromise or intercept the line.

Can we have some sort of a scrambler which randomises the signals in a manner that only the server and the end device can understand? IIRC this lack of credentials is what lead to the Traffic Light hijack in California in 2016. So maybe we can up with a system to secure these channels?

And thanks for the insight. It really really puts things into perspective

[remote sail]

More and more IOT/SCADA systems are being connected to the internet, though, for remote monitoring and control, and that's a huge problem, IMO. Because most of them probably have horrible security flaws.

[plucky raft]

IIRC most SCADA servers run windows. So there's that.

[radiant jacinth]

@upper musk omg Dragon hi

[upper musk]

wuzzzz zup Jalapenyoo

[scarlet moth]

hello DragonSniper

[celest cairn]

haha windows xp go brrr

SEL's RTACs run Linux tho

[fresh zealot]

Heyo, i managed to get 50% through the beginner path but hit a bit of a roadblock and stopped. I think it's pretty fun and am really liking everything, but I'm wondering if anyone has suggestions to make someone more invested in the site

I was using a remote ubuntu box for a bit and it worked for a while until it got to stuff like burp and wireshark with the GUIs, and right now i have a kali subsystem installed on windows 10 (and am using the windows versions of most of the GUI based programs) but it still kinda feels a bit janky sometimes. I don't know if i wanna go through the effort of setting up (and possibly screwing up) dual booting, and I feel like there's another solution that'd make it more fluid

[prisma oar]

Use a Kali VM

[fresh zealot]

oh wait, like virtualbox?

[prisma oar]

yeah or VMware

[fresh zealot]

Can you give it most of the power from the original system? I haven't used one before but wow I did not think of that lol, that seems like it'd be perfect

[prisma oar]

It doesn't need much tbh, I've ran like 4 VMs at once with 16 GB of RAM

[fresh zealot]

Oh awesome! I think the biggest issue i noticed when doing stuff with the cheap ubuntu box/tryhackme's stuff was things like johntheripper took forever so I do like using my hardware if possible haha

thank you!

[prisma oar]

Ideally you crack hashes with hashcat or john on your main pc so you can use your GPU, also you can potentially save some time/resources with crackstation

[jade quail]

Use VMWare Workstation Player if you can, it's good. Then get the Kali ISO from their website, they have a preinstalled VM one which saves headache

[fresh zealot]

Awesome, yeah I'm downloading it right now!

[fresh zealot]

It works wonderfully, thanks so much for your help! I resubbsed and am going to get a second monitor at some point cause this is awesome :D

[jade quail]

You are welcome. Enjoy. Be sure to get your openvpn config file for your kali box. Now, you have a persistent environment so when you collect tools, notes and command history across rooms you will keep it. 🙂

[hard wolf]

Hey, I was just reading about the pegasus spyware, and I was just wondering if it's possible to root an android without physical access, like having a meterpreter session or a shell? Even if it's possible to download an app on the target, how would u root it? Is it even possible? I don't actually think so. Can someone clarfy this?

[supple mauve]

You may not even need to root it to get something like Pegasus working? I've no idea myself, I haven't gone further than flashing custom roms on my phones. Would be good to hear from someone with some expertise in Android.

[burnt night]

It's malware, it works the same as many others.
It's exploiting vulnerabilities to gain access.

[hard wolf]

Yes, and it targets devices till android 4.2 and that's y I am wondering how all those powerful people got spyware, I mean they should have very latest device right?

[twin ridge]

these are not always the most tech-savvy people

[tawdry dove]

Please keep in mind that having their numbers in that list doesn't mean they were infected. The authors even said this in the article as well as saying there would be no way to check the leaders phones because they don't have access to the devices

Not saying it's false just saying it's unconfirmed

[radiant jacinth]

Woohoo EA Play today!

[radiant jacinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5WeBNfX-og

[tawdry dove]

https://youtu.be/VxthF9o9k0Y

This dudes an idiot but probably the most viking of the vikings

[spark sun]

He reminds me of that dude who loved the bears in alaska so much he got himself and his girlfriend eaten by them.... on camera

[tawdry dove]

Yeah the coast guard hates this type of person

[spark sun]

I can totally see it

Especially given the CG's credo

[tawdry dove]

Yeah, if he got tossed it's not "eh they may come out" it's "man in the water let's go" no matter the conditions

Like that movie with Pine and Affleck called "The Finest Hour"

Pretty decent film

There's actually a coast guard show on YouTube that's pretty interesting. Also there is a Rescue Swimmer course video as well

[spark sun]

Honestly, CG doesn't get enough cred from civvies for how badass their entire branch is

[tacit yew]

Not to say that CG doesn't have its share of hardcore folks, but Navy SAR is a different breed

[tawdry dove]

Yeah CG AST, SARC and PJs are all mentally insane

[tacit yew]

one of my buddies growing up became a navy diver, he has literally been training nearly every day of his life since he was 16. Thats the level of dedication and physical performance you need to do those kinds of jobs. Dudes carrying telephone poles with his diving buddies and whatnot just for a workout. Lots of respect for the guys and gals doing those jobs.

[wispy holly]

@quaint basin Here too

[quaint basin]

Ta :)

[dusty sleet]

Look mom, two fractal shapes are pinging each other on pseudo social media platform again

[tawdry dove]

Welcome to Moose's Steakhaus

[steel plover]

one sitting, you must be hungry

[tawdry dove]

Lol

Parents are coming over so I figured I should cook to show I'm not completely incompetent and semi successful

So we're having Steak, Potatoes, and Highballs

Need to learn how to make a potato though

[spark sun]

I have a big chunk of rib primal in my fridge - 2 more weeks on the dry aging

[steel plover]

google

[tawdry dove]

I did and got conflicting results

Gonna go with the oil, salt, and pin prick method

[burnt night]

Honestly if you're making potatoes, I like Twice Baked

[steel plover]

usually I use a fork or pairing knife for poking, the oil and salt help with pulling out the moisture

[tawdry dove]

That sounds like something I can mess up James lol

[burnt night]

Honestly super easy, and tasty AF. Maybe not so good if you're watching your fat intake but dietary fat isn't the evil it was sold as.

[spark sun]

Jacket potatos are even easier. Because it's impossible to make them explode

[steel plover]

wanna bet

[radiant jacinth]

Today I made Curry-wurst, reminded me of growing up in Germany, nothing like a Giros Pitta though but still nice. Can highly recommend to anyone, Curry-wurst rocks! Would show pics but tbh it didn't plate up all that well.

[tawdry dove]

Döner box is better

Though Currywurst is delicious

[radiant jacinth]

Never heard of Döner box, I'll google it. It was nice, just followed a traditional recipe, would like to see a fine dining approach to it.

[tawdry dove]

Döner is super popular in Berlin

Great hangover food

[tardy flower]

@tight socket

Sorry tagged the wrong person. My humble apologies.

[meager mason]

Hi @tawdry dove welcome to varghalla burgers.

[twin ridge]

Ugh I hate cooking solo :(

[mighty echo]

https://youtu.be/hYIOLVjb6Ew

This video makes them look so badass

[meager mason]

Even if grillin'?

[twin ridge]

grillin' is tricky in a thunderstorm

[floral sapphire]

why would you even

[radiant jacinth]

Old but gold, from my blog but wanted to share :). This was one of the last dished I came up with before leaving catering, this is Pressed Confit Chicken Leg, Citrus Salad and Black Sambuca Fluid Gel. The food critique who ate this said they loved it, we were always chasing rosettes in the kitchen but never exceeded 2 rosettes (3 is on par with 1 Michelin star).

[dusty sleet]

chef, starcraft player, cyber sec student, you are one interesting guy for sure😄

[radiant jacinth]

That's really kind of you, thank you 🙂

[hoary nymph]

Gave +1 Rep to @dusty sleet

[tawny egret]

I was listening on a podcast about someone who did the reverse. Healthcare->IT->BBQ.

[rapid summit]

I know someone that moved from (pretty senior) SW engineering in aerospace and military to bespoke tailoring.

[tawny egret]

Sounds like the plot to Kingsman. The spy who clothed me

[twin ridge]

looks good

[twin ridge]

I not be grillin' but I be bakin'

[rapid summit]

I was having long(ish) restaurant menus for the last two days.

[twin ridge]

Business trip?

[rapid summit]

end of vacation.

[twin ridge]

Ah cool

[rapid summit]

back to work on Monday.

[jade quail]

That looks incredible

[twin ridge]

Omnomnom

[worn schooner]

Needs pineapple 😉

[twin ridge]

didn't have any

[somber lodge]

man i had a chicken curry and banana pizza at the behest of one of my swedish friends and it was surprisingly delicious

[radiant jacinth]

Sounds interesting, I assume the banana complimented the spice well?

[somber lodge]

Yeah sweet and savory

[brisk loom]

Classic indian butter chicken

[radiant jacinth]

Ohh I do love me some buttered chicken!

[steel plover]

This be grillin

[wintry jetty]

i feel hungry

you have awaken my hunger

[sacred sandal]

Upside down margarita

[radiant jacinth]

Is that pesto with it? Also your pizza dough looks nice and thin 👌

[sacred sandal]

Just home grown basil and oregano on san Marzano tomatoes

[radiant jacinth]

oh nice! Bravo! I love that emoji.

[sacred sandal]

Some friends in a different server made it for me lol

[wintry jetty]

Enjoying my Protien Bar while i prepare for oscp....#EatHarder

[silk peak]

#eatsmartel also

[steel plover]

Here was todays main event though, smoked pork ribs

[steel plover]

Looks good, so many pizzas today

[radiant jacinth]

oof, looks tasty!

[radiant jacinth]

Sshh

[serene trench]

Give!

[tawdry dove]

So my parents bought me a plant as a housewarming gift and it's very nice. The nursery we purchased it from said it was fully mature.... I checked the seed code on the botanists website and it's still a baby

Full maturity is over 180"x36"

[quick crow]

cool

[night shale]

I'm bad with plants, even the fake ones would die in my house

[remote sail]

Sounds like a tree, not a plant

[tawdry dove]

Sun Parasol Mandevilla

I think its technically a vine

[steel plover]

I have killed many of plants

[radiant jacinth]

u don't put pesto on pizza men.

[radiant jacinth]

oregano doesen't go on pizza

I can't tell if you're trolling or not

[radiant jacinth]

i'm from italy & not trolling

well, Iv'e put it on pizza many times before 🙂 but hey i'm British what do I know 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/vegan-pesto-pasta-vegan-pesto-food52-gif-13600809 Is this the pesto u meann? @radiant jacinth

Pesto asin Bazil and pine nuts

yea we don't put that on pizza

You're missing out 😉

people use it in gourmet 5 star resturants but it's not traditional

i've tried it before just doesen't fit

https://yourguardianchef.com/traditional-italian-white-pizza-pesto/

wtf is that lol

italian recipes overseas are just wrong

I just googled Italian pizza with pesto lol, I spent more time cooking French food so. Italian is not my forte.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xsj_q70N78 look at this, the italian man is from naples ( birthplace of pizza)

Nice

I worked in a Restaurant where we served pizza, we had a stone oven for it also. But that was when I was a teenager(18).

[radiant jacinth]

was it with gas or with wood?

wood

great

It was ok but if you caught your arm on it, it hurt lol

[radiant jacinth]

it was small i guess

it had 3 layers to it, but yeah kinda. I have since purged my mind of the food taught there. French is best

[radiant jacinth]

any ways back to hacking, peace out 🙂

[radiant jacinth]

let's just say i don't agree on that, not because italian is the best cuisine but just french a bit eh

[radiant jacinth]

It's what the foundation of all good cooking build upon. It's the staple for young chefs learning here in the UK, but you are entitled to your opinion. But in the fine dinning world French cooking is supreme, Marco, Gordan ect all gained Michelin star accolades with French cooking. I haven't eaten enough Italian to have a solid opinion. Would have loved to eat at el Bulli in Spain but sadly it's now closed, Noma is their replacement I believe. 10/10 would eat Michelin Italian food though. any ways I really need to crack on, have a nice evening 🙂

[sacred sandal]

Neapolitan pizza, roman pizza and so on ok... but pizza has evolved since the year 0. the way the dough is fermented, the cheeses that are used and the the total hydration of the dough is a constant search.

tomato did not go on pizza until the spanish took it to italy from southamerica. pizza was olive oil, and anchovies back then

[sacred sandal]

tony wrote the pizza bible. pretty good book to learn

[pale lichen]

...

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... .. ....... ..

[odd acorn]

Hey Mørpheus @pale lichen :)

[twin ridge]

To be fair, Michelin inspectors are biased towards French cuisine as well

[radiant jacinth]

Potentially, but they are very fair, there is an air of pompery with Michelin for sure, but that's how they made their brand so highly sought after. There are lots of different styles of food that achieved a star, for example there was a tinny little dim sum restaurant that gained a star purely due to just how good it was. El Bulli was spanish and had 3 stars as was regarded as the best restaurant in the world.

[spark sun]

Fun fact: Michelin started giving stars out to give car owners a reason to drive around and visit places, thus selling more Michelin tires.

[radiant jacinth]

that is correct

Egon Ronne was the real OG, any ways enough about food for today 🙂

[twin ridge]

Same deal with their maps, and the green guides

They also invested a lot in road signage in the early days

Heh I go out of my way for a 1 star restaurant :)

Bib gourmand rated places are consistently good as well at a reasonable price

[rapid summit]

This place https://guide.michelin.com/sg/en/singapore-region/singapore/restaurant/liao-fan-hong-kong-soya-sauce-chicken-rice-noodle has probably the best stars/price ratio 🙂

[north roost]

screw the michelin guide, they need to stick to tires - also the culture it creates to attain and/or sustain stars in some chefs/restaurants is very unhealthy

those singaporean stalls I thought was a cool addition, i've seen some op-eds comparing that to food gentrification which I can kinda agree with - no one wants to spend 4x at their local mom-n-pop because some snooty guide said they're valid now

[pale lichen]

local food joint FTW LES GOOOOOOO

[radiant jacinth]

oh yeah working with some chefs was very toxic, elitist mentality for sure. It's considered as expensive due to it basically being one chef per dish cooking ratio and the cost of good ingredients ect, so the staffing over heads are over the roof. Local food joints are under rated for sure, but to say screw it is a bit ignorant imo. But i'm just a nobody what do I know 🙂. Any way's i'm dipping out of this conversation.

[twin ridge]

Michelin's history has always been mobility. Tires play a big part for sure but it's not their entire business, in a way this is a good thing for them. They built a solid reputation over the past 100 years for the quality of their guides. I agree that some chefs put a star over everything which can lead to a toxic environment, but they're still in the minority.

[remote echo]

Today’s project

The wiring is pretty messy but I’m going to buy some clamps to deal with it

[night shale]

the audiophile in me says the record player element might not like being in front of the speakers :p

[radiant jacinth]

It look super sharp, the lighting is v nice.

[amber karma]

Ur making me want to crack out my player

[night shale]

my player hasnt been used in quite a while.. spotify is just too easy

[amber karma]

Something nice about sticking on a really old blues or jazz record.

The crackle and scuffs and noises, makes it feel so real

[burnt night]

I love it

[remote echo]

I could make it really hurt and use the Bluetooth capability and move the speakers lol. That just doesn’t feel right to have something so analog then just use Bluetooth. That being said using Sonos with a player is pretty cool

[night shale]

as long as the record player is spinning nobody will know the difference but you 😛

[radiant jacinth]

Well ofc they get michelin stars with french cooking, michelin stars are french xd

[radiant jacinth]

first pizza ( margherita ) was named like that as it was made for queen margherita di savoia, and the 3 ingredients were mozzarella tomato and basil, and here we only use yeast to make it grow, takes 24 to 48 hrs.

[radiant jacinth]

If it's ok , I would like to stop this conversation 🙂

[radiant jacinth]

ok xd

[sacred sandal]

I do 3 days cold fermentation with biga or poolish for better taste.

[radiant jacinth]

never heard of biga before

[sacred sandal]

only caputo 00 flour, salt, water and yeast

biga is just a preferment

[radiant jacinth]

yea we only use brewer's yeast

[sacred sandal]

water, flour and a inch of yeast

pinch

[radiant jacinth]

that's pretty much what u put in pizza dough

[sacred sandal]

yes biga is to start the fermentation early for better flavor

[radiant jacinth]

is brewer's yeast a thing outside italy?

[sacred sandal]

its hard to get, same with fresh yeast

ady and idy are the most used

[radiant jacinth]

i know some people in italy do it at home

[sacred sandal]

yeah I have a sourdough that I keep alive, its about 1 year old right now

[radiant jacinth]

like home made yeast and they re grow it etc weird stuff but we usually buy this at supermarket

looks like this inside

[sacred sandal]

I do it, it gives a very good flavor to the dough. it need to be fed every 12 hours or it will die lol

[tawdry dove]

Dafuq

[radiant jacinth]

i have couple pizzerias in my family, and like from what i know they use special flours n shit, AKA why u can't make the pizzeria pizza at home

[steel plover]

shouldn't have been hiding that moose

[tawdry dove]

This is serious though

I don't own a pet and they can't provide me with photo evidence

[radiant jacinth]

shcam

[sacred sandal]

yeah caputo 00 is the flour. I have to get it at a restaurant
depot here

[steel plover]

did you go to the front office and request more information

[sacred sandal]

awesome

[radiant jacinth]

caputo is like a branding or is it a type

[sacred sandal]

the 00 is the grind. caputo is the brand we can get from italy here

[tawdry dove]

Yep

Still nothing

[steel plover]

strange

[radiant jacinth]

yea i know 00 is the grind xd, yea we don't have such brand here, we just have local unbranded type thing that just sells to local pizzerias and that's it

[tawdry dove]

My response

[sacred sandal]

hell yeah

[radiant jacinth]

bruh why do u even have to pay if u have a pet, that's just a scam lol

[steel plover]

hopefully they give a valid response instead of "we got nothin' to truely prove this"

[tawdry dove]

I'm fucking heated

@burnt night

[odd acorn]

Uh oh

[tawdry dove]

Not something to joke about my dude

[radiant jacinth]

[sacred sandal]

not in usa

[burnt night]

-mute @radiant jacinth That's not appropriate in the slightest. Definitely not something that it's OK to joke about anywhere. Especially not here. Go cool off.

[hoary nymph]

🔇 Muted scar#6666 for 1 day

[burnt night]

Tipo 00 is to do with the protein content as well. Needs ro be able to stretch without breaking

00 is the grade really

[tawdry dove]

I've only hear the numbers on reference to how a flour is graded

But I'm off to the gym now. This idiocy is finally making me go back to blow some steam

[sacred sandal]

yes its a finer grind. and yes the gluten structure is better with a higher protein content

[twin ridge]

it's measured differently here, but in France 00 is equivalent to T45

[sacred sandal]

is that what u guys use for bread?

[twin ridge]

depends on the bread

Baguette needs to be very stretchy, so usually a fine flour like T55 is used. A country-style ball (pain de campagne) will use coarser flour, like T80 or T120

T150 is basically whole grain flour

[steel plover]

what do you use for pizza hydra

[twin ridge]

T45 or T55 if I can find it

it really needs the gluten

but I've made pizza work with coarser flour, just need to let it sit for longer usually

let the little yeasties work their magic

[sacred sandal]

Also 00 flour is for high temp ovens like firewood. For home ovens 00 it does not get a nice color unless you add sugar or malt to the mix

[twin ridge]

it works well enough

putting sugar in pizza dough is blasphemy though

[steel plover]

I don't make pizza dough so no blasphemy from me, I just make banana bread

[twin ridge]

I mean in France adding sugar to bread is also blasphemy...

brioche is arguably not bread...

banana bread is classified as a cake here

despite the name 🙂

[sacred sandal]

Its just to feed the yeast, is like a teaspoon lol. Ny style pizza has sugar and oil

[night shale]

bread names can be confusing around the world :p

[twin ridge]

yeah I add a bit of olive oil

[steel plover]

breads are usually yeasted in most countries, cakes are not

[twin ridge]

banana bread generally uses baking powder

at least in most recipes I've seen

[sacred sandal]

I make a sourdough banana bread, no baking powder but yes lots of sugar xD

[night shale]

my favourite bread is meatloaf 🥴

[twin ridge]

like the band? 😉

ok I'll see myself out now

[serene trench]

😄

That was good

[burnt night]

Malt in bread sounds interesting

[twin ridge]

should be good tbh

I've had malted breads before, adds a bit of sweetness that's not as strong as pure sugar

[burnt night]

I've eaten malted breads

I like malt flavours

[radiant jacinth]

Hi

[plucky raft]

Hi Chasee

[meager mason]

We sizzlin boiis

[uneven oak]

Hot dawg

[night shale]

https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-training-events/threat-hunting-and-incident-response-summit-2021 open for registration \o/ (FREE summit/conference on Oct 7-8)

[mighty echo]

Better to post that in #resources :)

[short elk]

dinner

[uneven oak]

Damn son

[short elk]

for legal reasons this is a joke

[uneven oak]

Thank lord, them shits be poison

Although I do credit them for keeping me alive during festivals in my formative years haha

One of them in the morning n you can stomach infinite lukewarm beers

[serene trench]

When I went to reading 2018 I lived almost entirely off of belvitas for 4 days

I had a Tesco meal deal the trains there and the trains back

Creamfields it was special k & the coco pops cereal bars for 5 days

That one was even more of a mistake then just belvitas holy moly I didn’t literally move for a week after

[steel plover]

cmn, do you eat wagonwheels? So far I have heard they are amazing

[serene trench]

I haven’t had one in ages — but they’re good yes!

[pallid citrus]

https://windfromthenorth.com/archipelago-bread-recipe/

[rapid summit]

And that one is so good (when properly made)

[pallid citrus]

It truly is. Adding edible tar gives it a nice twist also

[twin ridge]

Molasses?

[steel plover]

it is a dark syrup from sugar cane

[twin ridge]

yes I know what molasses are, I was wondering if that was what they were referring to

[remote echo]

Why haven’t I seen cyber security/hacking standup yet

I want some thematic comedy at cons

[steel plover]

we were waiting for you to go first

[meager mason]

"So what's the deal with airline touchscreen operating systems? They barely operate and you barely touch 'em".

[tawdry dove]

Are you Seinfeld?

[meager mason]

I hope not.

[fast sail]

Clicking "Read the above and move on to" in a new room on Tryhackme.com to keep your streak alive....

[quaint basin]

Only one you're cheating is yourself 🤷‍♂️

[twin ridge]

true, I actually read the content first!

[dusty sleet]

Only one you're cheating is yourself 🤷‍♂️
@quaint basin
Harsh but true

[fast sail]

Yes listen to these guys kids... don't be like me... you'll waste your life away if you do!

https://tenor.com/view/sad-face-cereal-milk-cheerios-gif-14580489

[plucky raft]

This is my favourite gif now

[hot verge]

@dusty sleet

[dusty sleet]

hai

so I was watching this video https://youtu.be/0KbbE91OaRo

[hot verge]

yup

[dusty sleet]

which only works from 1-10, but after 100 it breaks

I tried using seq -w to force a width

but again same problem, it wont work on 2 digits but will work on higher numbers

is there a similar utility to seq that can actually set the width to a certain lenght ?

[hot verge]

seq -f "%03g" 0 1000```

maybe that might work? I believe seq can do it

I think what you're asking is about the format of the integer, so it matches what the files are stored as?

[dusty sleet]

yes exactly

also man pages have nothing about this

[hot verge]

luckily for you

stackoverflow does ;)

[dusty sleet]

lmao sure it does

thanks @hot verge

[hoary nymph]

Gave +1 Rep to @hot verge

[hot verge]

also, in bash you can denote how many noughts you want before the integer in a basic loop with:

[hot verge]

for i in {000..999}; do
  echo $i;
done```

something like that, as opposed to {0..999}, which wouldn't match the filename

[dusty sleet]

I know about this , I just didnt want to make the anime girl look to the side

lol

and it still breaks on the 100

guess I should do if or just a while loop

[burnt night]

-warn @dusty sleet Don't ask for help pirating anime or post links to piracy sites

[hoary nymph]

⚠ Warned hamzawinix#0001

[burnt night]

@hot verge you're lucky there.

[soft oriole]

Any suggestions on some good blood-pumping music to listen to while solving CTF's ?.... Spotify/SoundCloud playlists perhaps?..

[steel plover]

depends on what genre get's your blood pumping

[soft oriole]

Share me something what gets yours 😁 ..

[steel plover]

I usually play artist radios

[soft oriole]

Ahh..okay

[spark sun]

The Dead South is pretty good

[soft oriole]

Noted

Some of my suggestions :-
Neir Automata OST & Sickick

[dusty sleet]

-warn @dusty sleet Don't ask for help pirating anime or post links to piracy sites
@burnt night
Yea sorry for that, I dont even watch anime and my intention was educational

[night shale]

I'll just leave this here: source ~/.bash_history (Don't run this without understanding what it does, it could have unwanted side effects!)

[burnt night]

Why?

Honestly seems somewhat malicious to post that...

https://superuser.com/questions/609564/accidentally-sourced-bash-history/609565

We don't like "somewhat malicious".

[night shale]

I would hope people don't just run anything that's posted somewhere, I thought it was a funny command, saw it passing by on twitter.

pretty much anything could be malicious, especially in infosec

[tacit yew]

I mean at some point there is a level of personal responsibility...

[burnt night]

Yeah, I'm gonna remind you of rule 17 which covers this

Don't post malicious commands

[night shale]

Well sorry for trying to break the silence with something interesting/funny

I'll try to add some warning messages to any future commands that could potentially be damaging something.

[burnt night]

Or, preferably, just don't post them?

This community has people at all levels of experience

[night shale]

These kind of commands are all over the internet, as I said I just found this one in Twitter. I think it would be much more productive if we make people aware of not running anything they find on their own personal systems, instead of a vague rule that has a lot of interpretations possible.

Of course I don't post it to deliberately be causing damage to people's systems.

[burnt night]

-mute @night shale 20m Please don't argue over the rules, it's clear where the line is drawn.

[hoary nymph]

🔇 Muted Sling#5472 for 20 minutes

[odd acorn]

Hey!
You shouldn't have posted the command at all in this community :)
I would suggest that you read the #rules before proceeding to be a member of the community.

Please avoid arguing with staff members, especially when you are very much in the wrong. If you want to argue, you can take it up with the Lead Moderator (Muiri).

Posting a command, just like you did, is foolish and you should understand that the only responsibility that anyone should have is you. @night shale

[inland dust]

hi

[uneven mist]

hi

[meager mason]

hi