quiet-conversation

[twin ridge]

Yeah, I'm not taking a 3 hour train ride just for lunch

[frail bridge]

hi-

im new ahaha

[maiden urchin]

Hey and welcome

[tawdry dove]

Perseverance has landed

[finite turtle]

Yay robots!

[tawdry dove]

It's got a helicopter and a pooper scooper. Science!

[uneven oak]

Whats folks friday dinner plans?

[autumn trout]

the big event tonight 👀

[dull glen]

👀

[uneven oak]

Whats this here big event?

[autumn trout]

you'll find out in

32 mins

😉

[toxic tusk]

Dark talk?

[autumn trout]

No

😉

[uneven oak]

Mysterious

[twin ridge]

oh dear

[vital glacier]

H1 ctf?

[twin ridge]

tonight is mystery quiche night

[autumn trout]

Nope!

[uneven oak]

Love a quiche! Mystery part is unsettling haha

[toxic tusk]

Ban Bee if it turns out to be a troll 🤣

[twin ridge]

just means I don't yet know what will be in it

probably whatever's left in the fridge

[uneven oak]

I feels ya. Think im gonna make some italian sausage n leek pasta this eve

[twin ridge]

unconventional but could work

[uneven oak]

Oh its a good'un!

Lil bit o cream in there o mama

[twin ridge]

mustard?

with the cream

like the whole grain mustard could work well I think

[uneven oak]

Ive got a jar of wholegrain mustard as it goes, may add a dollop. I find mustard can be a tad over-powering as a flavour within a dish so ill have to be careful with the quantity.

Will report back later on with my findings :)

[toxic tusk]

??

@autumn trout tell me something, anything...

[autumn trout]

https://www.reddit.com/r/tryhackme/comments/lnep71/ama_cybersecurity_meg_cissp_msc_cybersecurity/

[toxic tusk]

smh you are 28 minutes late

[autumn trout]

its ok u can ban me

[tired juniper]

🙂

[uneven oak]

🙂

[mighty echo]

🙂

[rapid summit]

🙂

[toxic tusk]

[rapid summit]

https://parrotify.github.io/ This is all you need.

[toxic tusk]

already got enough?

[rapid summit]

Someone uploaded hundreds of parrot emojis to corporate hipchat at one point.

[short elk]

https://media.tenor.com/images/0fac2c997815f70218058a397d22f41d/tenor.gif

hmm that's a tenor one that embeds

[north roost]

definitely a module that can be severely improved upon by Discord

[twin ridge]

they're hit or miss

[north roost]

there's probably GIF bots out there that are way more reliable

[twin ridge]

Mountains're nice

[fervent ferry]

Oh wow! How pretty

[dull rose]

nice place to spend whole life)

[twin ridge]

Well this was just an afternoon

[scarlet moth]

I love mountains so much

[north roost]

i have many many film photos from my hikes 😄 heres one from a few years ago

i have some great ones from lake tahoe too I need to dig up

[tawdry dove]

Not a mountain but close enough

And here is one of my favorite that I've taken. Straight from camera no edits

Actually that one has a white balance correction excuse me

[hasty atlas]

I also love climbing/living in mountains. not nearly as scenic as the pics posted above, but here's the view from my apartment window:

[tawdry dove]

Yeah i live in the DMV now but I went to Uni in Vermont and lived in rural areas Massachusetts growing up. The two pictures were from Norway when a friend and I went during our study abroad week break. The fjord/mountain pic i actually took out of the car window lol

[hasty atlas]

they're really nice photos! I live in Montana and hope to visit other mountainous areas at some point.

[tawdry dove]

I'm so jealous. I want to live in Montana lol

[hasty atlas]

it's a nice place in a lot of ways haha

[tawdry dove]

As does everyone else now

[hasty atlas]

I've actually lived in MT my entire life lol

[scarlet moth]

Montana seems scary... but you only hear about those militia groups when you hear of Montana

[hasty atlas]

yes we do have our fair share of crazies out there

not to mention grizzly bears, mountain lions, rattlesnakes, etc

[tawdry dove]

I think every state does lol

[hasty atlas]

true haha

[scarlet moth]

hell California has most of that

[tawdry dove]

cough taxes cough

[scarlet moth]

we are planning on moving back to California in a few years, trying to find a good balance of nature availability and friendliness for dogs for Mountain lions/rattlesnakes

[tawdry dove]

Cali is beautiful but it's not for me honestly

Too many people

[hasty atlas]

I would not mind living in California someday. I visited the Bay Area a few years ago and liked a lot of things about it

but yes as @tawdry dove said, lots of people there

[scarlet moth]

it really depends where, I like to be near a larger metro area, was in Denver for a few years and it felt so tiny but the rockies are amazing

[hasty atlas]

Denver/Colorado in general is another place I've thought about going

[scarlet moth]

city we live in now has 300k people... city we are looking at moving to in California has 100k people but its an hourish drive to 3 major metro areas

[hasty atlas]

nice, that sounds like a nice balance

[tawdry dove]

I lived in a town with 9k people. The town my university was in had 3.5k, 2k of which were students lol

And now i live in the DMV area. Big change

[scarlet moth]

kind of nervous about it but next time we can visit... we are going to check out the hiking, from alltrails, it sounds good, good for dogs, nice wide paths where you can spot rattlesnakes easily

we had been targeting another area but this area is cheaper... by like 200k/house

[north roost]

i visited the bay area, no way I would live there without making 200k a year

[scarlet moth]

and lots of community services

[hasty atlas]

I'm in a town of ~75k, grew up in a town of 30k

[scarlet moth]

yeah it is crazy... I'd want at least 500k/yr for each my spouse and I

[north roost]

i had some extended family who lived in a suburb of the bay area with a 3 million dollar house - totally normal looking house you'd probably pay 50k for in Texas, its all about location out there

[scarlet moth]

my husband and I love the bay area, we went there for an anniversary trip, but we got caught in traffic on the way back to the airport (to the airport was smooth and we were in an uber)... it was so many people

[north roost]

haight-ashbury is awesome if you're a history buff too 😄

[scarlet moth]

and I used to go to a conference every year in San Francisco... one year I totally stayed in a haunted hotel

then next time I was like, nope, I'm booking earlier to stay in the Marriott next time

[north roost]

yeah uh san fransisco is like literally built on top of a graveyard if you consider the earthquake back in the 1900s lol

[scarlet moth]

China town is my favorite place in San Francisco

so much good food and just so many amazing shops

[hasty atlas]

one of the things I liked most about SF was all the different modes of public transportation. but I am a nerd for that lol

[scarlet moth]

and the markets were so good

[north roost]

thats the cool thing about Chinatowns is they are almost identical across big cities, granted I've only seen 3 but they're always a blast

[scarlet moth]

DC Chinatown is small but also has good food, and got an amazing foot massage in NY Chinatown

[north roost]

pls tell me you got down to the harbor in SF and got some sourdough bread bowls with bisque

[scarlet moth]

we got sourdough bread but... no bisque

actually flying to SoCal one year, our plane got diverted to SF, I bee lined for the bakery in the airport and got some sourdough bread

[north roost]

yeah that stuff is just insanely good, that along with the place where they made the first Irish Coffee (i think?) were the highlights of my trip there

ah buena vista that's it

[scarlet moth]

we went up to Mendocino, its not exactly a short drive, but so amazing... loved the redwoods

my current work doesn't travel as much and if it is, its most likely florida

[twin ridge]

Not sure I want to live in the bay area tbh

[tawdry dove]

What surprised me when I go to other states is tbe price of common food in the North East

[twin ridge]

There are some nice hikes in the Berkeley area though

[tawdry dove]

It's not the same low price lol

[scarlet moth]

Moving from SoCal where I grew up all my life and shopping for food other places... was a shock

[north roost]

welp if there's one thing I've taken for granted far too long it's travelling - saving everything I can for cons (if) as soon as they come back

[scarlet moth]

like I don't think I bought fruit the entire first year I moved away from SoCal and buying avocados hurts my heart

[tawdry dove]

Like lobster and other general seafood was the biggest shock

[north roost]

oh my god the fruit in SoCal, ill never forget these strawberries I had there once

[scarlet moth]

you go drive to the stands... you get like 20 avocados for $5... huge bag of oranges for $3

[tawdry dove]

Yeah that is a plus for Cali and Florida. The fruit

Once I get my own land though you can bet I'm going to have a green house

[scarlet moth]

but all around food is cheaper in SoCal than anywhere else I've lived since

[twin ridge]

Paris is horrible for food prices

[north roost]

for sure, one of the benefits of having a huge agrarian economy

[tawdry dove]

Berlin is amazing for food prices

[north roost]

interesting I would definitely not have guessed that

[tawdry dove]

Berlin is broke

Comparative to other German cities

[north roost]

oh wow cost of living there is actually really good - thats a city I really really want to visit

[scarlet moth]

yeah maybe once Covid starts behaving... maybe

Colombia is my next trip though

[tawdry dove]

Yeah i have been to Germany twice and stayed in Berlin both times. It's a really affordable city and rather friendly. It's like the California of Germany

Like you can drink walking down the street

I was supposed to go to Peru last May but COVID nixed that

[north roost]

im in love with the subcultures there in particular and the art scene in general

[tawdry dove]

In Peru or Berlin?

[north roost]

Berlin - Peru is cool as hell too though

[scarlet moth]

I've only been in the Peru airport ha

[tawdry dove]

Oh yeah Berlin definitely has its own style

[scarlet moth]

and I've been to Munich and surrounding areas but not other places

[north roost]

Denver is my favorite airport 😄 had some pretty decent BBQ there

[tawdry dove]

I've done Berlin, Poland, Czech Republic, Italy, Norway, Finland, Canada, a bit of the States

[scarlet moth]

I dunno if I have a favorite, I do like SF especially for that crazy landing strip... water water water... land

[tawdry dove]

Feel like I'm forgetting something

[scarlet moth]

and Frankfurt airport is huge and amazing, we had some good noodle soup there... and I had an amazing shower in Seoul after a direct flight from the east coast

also had noodle soup at the Seoul airport 🙂

[tawdry dove]

Berlin is definitely a good home base though for Europe. It's cheaper than a lot of other European cities and has easy access to all major forms of transportation

[scarlet moth]

I generally just like going one place and exploring, although depends

[tawdry dove]

Yeah I'm speaking from having a place to live in Europe and then extending out to explore

[scarlet moth]

ahh yeah that isn't my goal 🙂

[tawdry dove]

Also Germany has free tuition for anyone who wants it as well

[north roost]

for now I definitely have it in my head to travel US exclusively and hit up a bunch of hiking spots alone

[tawdry dove]

Or did. Not sure if that program exists anymore. If it doesn't then it was short lived

[scarlet moth]

New Mexico is one of my favorite places in the US, specifically Albuquerque

[tawdry dove]

Yeah the US is truly an oddity and we are spoiled that we have this much land to travel freely

[scarlet moth]

I'd consider moving there but with aging parents... you either choose one parent location or another

its also a bit small for a city but so beautiful

[north roost]

oddly enough I've been hearing a ton of people talk about albuquerque as an up and coming place to live

almost nothing beats that south-western charm

[scarlet moth]

yeah I love it

I also love Tuscon, AZ

[tawdry dove]

Yeah i love that people discover new places that they love but it's also a vicious cycle. Tucson is great

[trail cove]

Great hearing such positive things about San Fran, NM and Berlin. Places definitely on my list in the (hopefully) near future

[hasty atlas]

what are some other underrated places people would recommend? in the US or elsewhere.

[trail cove]

I had great fun in Chicago a few years back

[tawdry dove]

Antarctica

Lol

[hasty atlas]

In all seriousness, there was a really cool documentary about people living on bases in Antarctica that I recently watched.

[tawdry dove]

Here's my list off the top of my head:
Antarctica
Japan
Australia
Peru
Tanzania

That covers my continents I believe

Antarctica you can get to through a few avenues. Some more expensive than others

[trail cove]

I've heard in a lot of cases you need a letter of permission from your government or the origin government of whoever is bringing you

[tawdry dove]

It depends. You can get there through working on Antarctica, you can take a cruise there, or you can sail there yourself

Each base has its own rules because they are owned by different countries. I do know from some of the videos that I watch that one group called the Australian Environmental Agency

If you're sailing from the base of Argentina you do need a letter from them saying they approve of you leaving their port

[trail cove]

You'd have to make sure of the legal requirements for that jurisdiction. There's all kinds of international regulations on approaching or landing on Antarctica. Prosecution would not be a pleasant experience but going through the motions and getting there would be worth almost anything

[tawdry dove]

Oh no doubt. You'd have to make it to Antarctica first though. You have the Roaring 40s, Furious 50s, and Screaming 60s to go through lol

[scarlet moth]

We went to Antarctica (that is how we were at the airport in Peru)

[north roost]

one of my favorite places is South Lake Tahoe, would highly recommend

[tawdry dove]

Lol how was it Zojj? Larger cruise or a smaller one? Or none at all?

[scarlet moth]

it was a smaller cruise, think 300 people max? so good size but not too big that we couldn't' touch land

the big cruises just pass on by without stopping

I forget our number total, think it was 250 and that included the crew

[tawdry dove]

Nice

[cedar robin]

ooo travel talk
Before all the lockdowns, I used to go on trips ever so often. My favourite memories/places is making friends in Spain and then visiting them in Australia/NZ

[scarlet moth]

I also would like to make it to Spain

when we went to Italy, I had actually started planning out a trip to Spain and then I was like screw it, let's go to Italy (as it had been on my bucketlist a long, long time and I just kind of ignored it)

[tawdry dove]

https://youtu.be/O9i7dWpl38U

[trail cove]

Yeah I've been to Spain loads but always wanted to see Italy. One day 🙂

[scarlet moth]

you can take some of the science boats to Antarctica but they are really bare bones

[tawdry dove]

Really interesting watch if it's the series I remember

[scarlet moth]

we actually kind of won the trip to Antarctica... kind of

it was at like a super discount through American Express

[tawdry dove]

When I was in Berlin we were planning on going to Africa during our break. However, civil unrest broke out and we decided that it would not be a smart idea lol

[scarlet moth]

AmEx used to do it all the time, where they would have these events where it was something like 'win a super discounted price' and it was us and another couple that 'won'

[tawdry dove]

Nice

[tired juniper]

🙃

[tawdry dove]

Yeah I'm thinking of climbing Kilimanjaro in two years

[trail cove]

Gonna start taking Japanese lessons again

[tired juniper]

Gonna start talking about burp

[scarlet moth]

nice... I saw a women's only trip that looked interesting for kilimanjaro but I have a huge bucket list already

[tawdry dove]

Yeah i found the group that Nat Geo uses when they go to Tanzania

Honestly, not as expensive as I thought it would be

[trail cove]

I have a hugeto be read pile but I'm still adding to it 😛

[scarlet moth]

I've been eyeing some of the Nat Geo trips

[tawdry dove]

Some of those Nat Geo trips are insanely expensive

[scarlet moth]

but I like to do it on my own, when we went to Italy, we did half on our own, half with GAP

which is called something else now

[tired juniper]

I got 5 from math

[trail cove]

Gotta start saving for travel for the rest of this year. I'll be in college til Christmas anyway

But this convo has definitely given me encouragement

[tawdry dove]

Yeah you can definitely make travel happen. All the places I listed as having gone to I went when I was in college

[trail cove]

Must go visit family in Paris at some point

[tawdry dove]

With my own money i should add. I'm not a trust fund kid lol

[scarlet moth]

First thing I did when I graduated college was saved up for an international trip and went

[tawdry dove]

Yeah i would be taking more trips if I actually had PTO 😩

[trail cove]

It's possible to travel on a small budget, even nowadays but some of the things I wanna do are gonna be pricey

(well obviously not right now!)

[tawdry dove]

You can definitely do it on a small budget lol. The busses in Europe are pretty cheap

I went to the Czech Republic and parts of Southern Germany for $40 USD

Round trip

[trail cove]

I once travelled from Leon to Evian for my friend's wedding. Was in a Chateau and I must have drank two bottles of Champagne before the reception 😛

The next night I got a bargain stay in a luxury hotel in a converted Chateau on the other side of Lake Geneva overlooking Mont Blanc and a 7 course meal all for ~€200... And the bed was as big as two king-sized together... Definitely not typical accommodation for me

[scarlet moth]

thats amazing for Switzerland but I'd hardly call it bargain traveling ha

[rapid summit]

I remember paying 240 CHF for a pretty basic cabin accommodation in Switzerland.

[trail cove]

Haha I found a bargain offer and just had to do it. My gf at the time and I were saving for a house, it wasn't going to be an opportunity again for a long time

[scarlet moth]

yeah I paid over $200 for 1 night in Zurich, it was a super tiny hotel room

but I was employed at the time and again budgeted for it 🙂

[trail cove]

The Chateau itself was about 10km outside Geneva and literally a stone's throw from the border with Switzerland at the junction of the road

[radiant jacinth]

10 $ in Bosnia for 1 night

[scarlet moth]

I had 9$ in China once..

[rapid summit]

I don't think that price was too much for me either, and I'd sure pay it again. It was in Interlaken after all. And that area is just ... out of this world 🙂

[trail cove]

Still we could see the Jed D'Eau from our windows

[scarlet moth]

which... various parts of Asia can be amazing for bargain hunters

well I'm just saying there is bargain traveling and not... over $200 / night even with meal just isn't what I'd consider bargain travel even if its a bargain 🙂

[rapid summit]

good deal isn't necessarily a bargain 🙂

[trail cove]

Well $200 was definitely pricey but the kind of people who typically stayed at that hotel were the kind of people who typically wouldn't be worried about spending a few thousand on a night in a hotel. I would not be exaggerating if I told you several cars could have fit in the room with the doors open if the bed was removed

[rapid summit]

The worst price I've had has been in Boston at one time. One of the nights was around $700.

The total was $2000 for less than a week. Luckily I didn't pay for that myself.

[trail cove]

Boston I can imagine being somewhat expensive in town considering it's a high profile place for business, government and academic activity

[rapid summit]

Yep. Even the surroundings were ridiculously expensive at the time. There were three big conferences in the city at the time, and I was booking the trip on a week's notice.

[trail cove]

Ouch! That's gotta bite. And Boston has plenty of those going on

[rapid summit]

For reasons the company wanted me to fly for 20 hours and get there, so they thought it was worth it, I guess 🙂

[trail cove]

Well some expenses can't be spared

[tawdry dove]

I want to go to that mountain town in Switzerland

[trail cove]

Oh Switzerland has plenty of spots around the Alps

[rapid summit]

I'd probably have gone to Austria or Switzerland in the summer, if it wasn't for the pandemic. Last summer we got to visit Norway, so didn't have to stay home all the time.

[tawdry dove]

I'd have to find the exact name lol but I was taken by it in photos

Never made it over to Switzerland though when I was last in Europe

Norway is one of my favorite places

Don't be a numpty though and remember when the last day of the sun is

[trail cove]

I'd love to see Norway and Sweden. Friend of mine is a Supercomputer engineer in Stockholm

[rapid summit]

I haven't been to Sweden for ages - if you don't count the border towns near Finland 🙂 Used to go there quite often earlier. And nowadays it seems that Stockholm is too close for spending your vacation in.

[tawdry dove]

When I went we spent the Evening in Oslo and then flew to Alta the next morning

Turned out the day we landed in Alta was the last day of sun for the year lol.

[rapid summit]

Ooh, Alattio (Alta). If the situation gets better, I might drive there next summer.

[trail cove]

Finland would be fun. There's only one country between Finland and North Korea

Lol @ @tawdry dove

[rapid summit]

Just don't expect the dramatic scenery of Norway here. It's fun and pretty, but different.

[scarlet moth]

I don't know if I've ever stayed in an ultra pricey hotel... For work, stayed in various places in SF (which is around $400/night), Las vegas stayed at various hotels for conference (again about $400/night), Boston when stayed for conference was probably around the same. Personally only reason to spend $$ on hotel is location, I'd be happy in most any place as long as it isn't a shared bathroom accomodation

[trail cove]

I'd still love to go. All the people I know there are computer folks

[rapid summit]

There are others. At least the ones supporting the computer folks 🙂

[tawdry dove]

We called Northern Finland "the wastes". It was Grey, snow was getting blown up everywhere, and it was just endless barren land

It was amazing though lol

[rapid summit]

It's amazing for trekking in the summer. If you can handle the mosquitoes.

[tawdry dove]

We drove down to Rovaniemi from Alta and got to go to this amazing restaurant

Believe it was called Nili

[rapid summit]

Sounds about right. It's in the city (if you can really call Rovaniemi a city 🙂 ) centre

[tawdry dove]

Yeah we went down for Santa land just to see what it was like though lol. Kind of disappointing but the restaurant and the random shop we stopped at in the middle of nowhere with a grandmother and her granddaughter made it worth it

[rapid summit]

I wonder how many Santas there are around Rovaniemi.

[tawdry dove]

Got to buy a kuksa

[rapid summit]

And we all know that Santa isn't really living in Rovaniemi, but in the restricted border zone on Korvatunturi fjell.

They say it's a lovely hike to that fjell. You can get a permission to one of the peaks from the border control if you meet some requirements.

[rapid summit]

I hope you prepared it properly for use!

[trail cove]

I had never heard that before and have just looked it up on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korvatunturi

[tawdry dove]

@rapid summit with alcohol?

[rapid summit]

That's the traditional way.

[tawdry dove]

I think i did. I may have just put coffee in it

I can't remember

I haven't used it in a while so I'll get some more alcohol to clean it

[rapid summit]

IMHO they're pretty impractical for real use 🙂

[tawdry dove]

For home use yes. I think its useful for traveling in some ways

[rapid summit]

You need something to drink from, and the feeling of using one is nice. But it's still impractical 🙂

[tawdry dove]

@scarlet moth i forgot to ask earlier. Why Columbia? It sounds like a cool place, minus the cartels

[tawdry dove]

First video I watch on Columbia the guy gets stopped by police and strip searched. Oof

[scarlet moth]

I would like to visit cartegena, its a colonial city which is known for tourism

I mean there are safer parts these days, I just wouldn't travel by road if you are traveling between cities

Even former home of Escobar is a pretty decent travel destination these days

but its amazingly beautiful https://www.departures.com/travel/photo-tour-cartagena-colombia

[tawdry dove]

Yeah the guy was strip searched in Cartegena. I definitely have to be careful where I go because I stick out like a sore thumb.

[spark sun]

i hear the biggest danger in columbian tourism these days are the hippo colonies in the waterways

[soft marsh]

I want to do some Munro's once lockdown is lifted for good here. Maybe go to the cuillian

[quaint basin]

Amen to that

[cloud nexus]

Aloha

[rapid summit]

Dough day. Pizza done, rye and spelt+wheat bread dough prepared.

[scarlet moth]

oh shoot still haven't tried to make sourdough but I do have rye flour

[twin ridge]

Sounds good

caps lock will be the death of me...

I have a more standard pizza dough proofing now

[rapid summit]

At least the pizza was good. Let's see what I'll make of the breads

[twin ridge]

last bread I tried making was a bit too dry

[scarlet moth]

don't cook it too much and a little oil helps

[rapid summit]

dry on the crust or inside?

[rapid summit]

Let's try and bake those rye breads.

[tawdry dove]

I'm making my own pizza next week

[rapid summit]

I've enough dough left for tomorrow.

[tawdry dove]

I think i finally have all the basic kitchen tools to make one. Moving out of your parents place is rough. So many little things

[rapid summit]

It's surprising how many bowls one might need 🙂

[tawdry dove]

Yeah and pots and pans. Or a stove that actually makes sense 😐

[twin ridge]

I had too little water in my mix I think

[twin ridge]

let's see...at least 5.

or at the very least, one more than you already have

[twin ridge]

dry on the inside, but I was at 3:5 water:flour, might need to be to 7:10

but then it gets really sticky

the crust was great though

throw a bit of water in the bottom of the oven while it's hot to make some vapour, which helps get a good crust

[tawdry dove]

Anyone that has a Homelab, hosting anything interesting?

[main sparrow]

What are you running?

[tawdry dove]

Heimdall, Plex, docker, pfsense for a Cyber range, sonarr, a wiki, and a few other things that I am forgetting because the lab is down right now

Oh almost forgot pihole

[main sparrow]

remotely is pretty cool

[remote echo]

honey pots

all the honey pots

[main sparrow]

https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted

[tawdry dove]

If i get another pi im going to do a honeypot but right now I don't trust myself to properly secure the one R710 I have

I could do it but it's just i would find some way to possibly mess it up

Yeah i was just scrolling through @main sparrow

[main sparrow]

endlessh

[tawdry dove]

Interesting

Hopefully I'll get more storage soon. I like archiving but just don't have the space

Probably going to buy 36TBs of drives soon

Seems like a lot but it will probably go quickly. I'm getting to the point where I am taking about a terabyte of photos a year and my steam library isn't getting any smaller lol

[short elk]

that sounds like a lot of photos

[tawdry dove]

It is. But each photo is 40MB minimum

So whatever that come our to like 50 a day? Seems about right

[random pebble]

@rapid summit Try placing a baking sheet or oven safe pot with water in the oven alongside the bread to give it more moisture.

[lethal kettle]

if i shouted here, what will happen?

[rapid summit]

It was Hydra that had problems with dry bread 🙂 My rye one was a bit underbaked, but ok nevertheless.

[twin ridge]

Yeah I did that, but it was because the dough was too dry

[zealous fulcrum]

How do you edit the code of a .png?

[odd acorn]

Would you like to provide context?

[zealous fulcrum]

Context?

Like, let's say you assumed there was a virus in a photo, how would you be able to find out?

[odd acorn]

I mean

It's not exactly like writing code

I don't think you can just right click, press edit and start writing malware

If your images had a malicious payload in them, your antivirus should hopefully pick them up. I do not think malicious .png files are popular so you would most likely not find any malicious code in one but if you had a sneaking suspicion, I guess you could open the file in a hex editor and see?

This is a screenshot I found on the internet

[zealous fulcrum]

Thanks.

[merry smelt]

The example above is a PDF, but holds for any datatype: such malware or virus is usually passed on active datatypes (Word/Excel with macros), which then is executed. The one you mentioned is in passive datatypes (PDFs, images, videos), here the attack vector usually is finding a bug in the parser (e.g. photo viewer software) and exploiting it with e.g. a payload in the metadata (EXIF, etc.). Both can be found by inspecting the binary of the data (e.g. with hex editors) or specific editors (e.g. GIMP for pictures, Excel for VB macros)

[burnt night]

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/06/12/facebook-paid-for-a-0-day-to-help-fbi-unmask-child-predator/ - Kinda ewwww example, but there have been 0days in video software to deanonymise people

[tawdry dove]

Am I happy that this monster was caught? Yes. Am I happy at the precident this sets? No.

I'll expand later. At work now

Also contrary to popular belief, most of you probably know, Tor can be beaten

[burnt night]

Yeah there are some good talks on it

[tawdry dove]

Yeah lol. I was giving a presentation to freshman on how to keep yourself safe online and half were like "are you a criminal" and the other were like "I thought Tor was secure"

[radiant jacinth]

wait tor aint secure?

[burnt night]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwawq8PsozU

[random pebble]

Oh cool video, Checks length Nahh, my bathroom visits don't last that long.

[tawdry dove]

@radiant jacinth idk if that was sarcasm but yeah tor isn't inherently secure. You still need to take a few extra steps and even then there are some faults in how tor works that can be exploited

[radiant jacinth]

nope it wasnt i was for real im a newbie @tawdry dove

[tawdry dove]

Ah, no worries. I'm not sure what was in that video but one way that comes to mind is to DDOS the exit nodes until you're one of or the only one left

[merry smelt]

Or if you have money, just have 50%+ of the exit nodes under you control. But I think there are other things exploitable (think using Signal but with the Google keyboard... the e2ee does give you naught, because everything you type is sent instantly for Google to put into their ML stuff)

[soft marsh]

Braves TOR tab feature was found to have a big flaw in it a wee while ago

Like last week or smth

[tribal heart]

it leaks all the onion addresses you visit to your DNS provider

https://twitter.com/albinowax/status/1362737949872431108

James Kettle (@albinowax)

I just confirmed that yes, @brave browser's Tor mode appears to leak all the .onion addresses you visit to your DNS provider
https://t.co/IMV97jWhZf

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[tawdry dove]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-michael-scott-the-office-my-bad-oof-gif-13450971

[soft marsh]

That was way worse then I remembered

[merry smelt]

I know it's not a solution for the above problem, but it would be time to start to use quad9 (9.9.9.9 / 149.112.112.112) whenever people are longing for privacy 😉 Of course together with a self-hosted pi-hole

[tribal heart]

heh.. there's many ways to diminish your level of attributions. but using brave isn't one

[radiant jacinth]

Haven't used brave yet, but it doesn't seem as secure now

[tribal heart]

well.. security and attribution are not necessarily equivalents

[tawdry dove]

I have a Google phone so I'm screwed lol

[tribal heart]

And your concerns about attribution should be directly related to what you are doing / engaging with

[tawdry dove]

How are we defining attribution in this sense? Associating acts with someone?

[tribal heart]

Associating your actions online with you.

[tawdry dove]

Gotcha

[tawdry dove]

Personally I feel like this is close to if not the same as the "if you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide" argument

I am fine with limited privacy for myself as I accepted that when I started my job, it was my choice.

[tribal heart]

that can be a fallacy. For instance, I just took part in Trace Labs search party CTF, and we were looking for missing persons, and in doing that it may be necessary to hide your attribution to prevent shady characters (let's imagine the case of a kidnapping) from figuring out who you are and possibly attacking you in retribution if they find out who you are.

The same could be said if you were doing OSINT data collection on criminal operations.

[tawdry dove]

Sorry I got distracted. What I was going to say to finish that was I don't think my case should be the default where people have to fight for their privacy

[tribal heart]

those are two distinct cases where attribution matters and you've done "Nothing wrong"

[tawdry dove]

I think i may have misunderstood your original message

[tribal heart]

which is what I meant by attribution being connected to what you're doing. For example, if you're going to want some good degree of attribution on your positive actions, that's how ppl get jobs 😛

[tawdry dove]

I read it as "you shouldn't have to worry about attribution if you aren't doing anything wrong/illegal/embarrassing"

I'm in a loop now lol

[tribal heart]

Well, naturally criminals will try to have low attribution... if they are smart.. but there's more to it than that as you can see now 🙂

it's a very interesting topic

and a hard ballance to manage

[tawdry dove]

Agreed

I'm a very "leave me alone" type of person

And i also believe we were arguing the same point in that keeping attribution low is important? Am I understanding that correctly? Or am I still off base?

My brain is slow today for some reason

[tribal heart]

Semi the same point.

I'm saying it depends on 1- what you're comfortable with, 2- what your objectives are, 3 - what is your risk in exposing attribution.

but my original point was that low attribution does not necessarily equate to security.

[tawdry dove]

I understand now lol

I think all of those are valid points and need to be a part of a much larger conversation

What do you do for work if you don't mind me asking?

[tribal heart]

this may shock you, but I'm a farmer 😛

[tawdry dove]

Nice. That's pretty rad

That was my dream as a kid

[tribal heart]

to be honest though. I'm working hard to land an infosec job

Farm will still be on the list though 🙂

[midnight minnow]

we can see that hard work

[tawdry dove]

What do you farm? Livestock? Produce?

[tribal heart]

sustainable horticulture, and I have a bit of an orchard growing. Still extremely young on that department though

direct-to-consumer, locally produced, small scale

[tawdry dove]

Cool

You should start a YouTube channel. Mix cyber and farming

[tribal heart]

I can do a lot, but YouTube not my thing. I think I'd burn out in a couple of days

[tawdry dove]

😢

[tribal heart]

major respect to all the people making all that content 🙂

that stuff is hard

[tawdry dove]

That's like my fantasy. A farm that mixes cool cyber stuff into their work flow and gives low level explanations on how everything works

[midnight minnow]

That sound so COOOOOOOOOL

[tawdry dove]

Like you have a few YouTube channels that have done one or two videos. The ones that come to mind are Chili Chump, Great Scott!, and the videos on Garduino

[tribal heart]

Problem with the farm is that if I get too deep on small cyber projects for it, nothing gets done and I lose 3 months of crops...

[tawdry dove]

TheRealMartian also had some cools stuff going on but then their shelter got crushed

[tribal heart]

though I was planning to do a small weather station and use it to optimize irrigation

[tawdry dove]

I'll come on as an assistant omega 😉

[tribal heart]

but there's something hard when it comes to doing C&C automation via long distance and keep costs low

[tawdry dove]

What about LoRa?

[tribal heart]

well that adds another layer of complexity to it, and I'd have to check my local legislation about it.

but it'd probably be the way to go eventually

[tawdry dove]

LoRa is regulated?

I thought it was in the unregulated band

[tribal heart]

Not sure here.. we have some archaic laws

[tawdry dove]

Europe or US?

Or somewhere else

[tribal heart]

Europe, Portugal

[tawdry dove]

Ah

For downlink (for 869.525MHz), the maximum transmission power is limited to 0.5W (27 dBm)

There is an 0.1% and 1.0% duty cycle per day depending on the channel.

Maximum allowed antenna gain +2.15 dBi

This is from LoRa's website for Europe

[tribal heart]

And then there's another big thing after you work a while on the fields.. you tend not to mess too much with something that works

[tawdry dove]

Looks like y'all have some regulations

[tribal heart]

ya we do

[tawdry dove]

If it ain't broke don't fix it is a great rule to live by

[tribal heart]

First I'd probably setup some monitoring stations and "gadgets" and make sure that works before i'd mess with irrigation in any way

to avoid losing crops while debugging....

[tawdry dove]

No doubt

[merry smelt]

reminds me somehow of this:

[tribal heart]

Anyways.. it's not my thing much 😄

[tawdry dove]

Yeah there is definitely a lot of variables, like shoddy moisture sensors

[tawdry dove]

So..... Sorry Australia but Facebook just made you its female dog

Not that i agreed with the news tax

[merry smelt]

And I don't even get it why they backed down. I mean... the government doesn't have anything to lose in this game... people will adjust unbelievingly fast to a world w/o FB. It's not that they have to protect the status quo or the news groups could make it even worse...

[tawdry dove]

Yeah the government backing down was the worst thing they could have possibly done

Now Facebook knows for a fact they can push the envelope and get away with it

[indigo oasis]

Vegan cookies with actual vegan white choc this time 😊 and recipe used from https://tasty.co/recipe/vegan-chocolate-chip-cookies

This is still the food room right?!

[maiden urchin]

Yep but no one has really posted in here about food for a long time

[indigo oasis]

Yh I just did a quick scroll! Oh well people are super busy I guess

[indigo oasis]

Oooo these look yum! Mine dint go flat like that because I used 50g of coconut flour so they just went 'half flat'?!

[burnt night]

I'd have thought it was more to do with the fats? I'm not a food scientist

[indigo oasis]

You might be right

I used sun flower oil in my last batch I made a while back. So maybe the olive oil isn't that good for cookies

[tawdry dove]

Cookies rise for a couple of reasons. Too much flour is one

Or you could have introduced too much air to your butter (or substitute) and sugar mix

[indigo oasis]

I'll try the same ingredients again to see if that is the case! I think it is the coconut flour personally because I added more of it to another batch and they didn't go flat at all 😐

[tawdry dove]

Idk what you're using for an egg substitute but too much of that can cause puffing as well

[indigo oasis]

I used olive oil as per the recipe in that link

1/2 cup of olive oil

Anyway will try it again when I can and see. Goodnight!

[tawdry dove]

🚀 🚀 stonks go brrrrrrrrrr

[scarlet moth]

time to buy up

[tawdry dove]

I did. I bought $300 in stonks and a small portion of crypto

I bought 3M and then some ETFs

Yeah 3M, Coca-Cola, SPGM, and then Bitcoin, Litecoin, and Etherium

[scarlet moth]

I don't do crypto myself

[tawdry dove]

It's only 1% of my portfolio

I'm mad salty about crypto though I almost bought $100 of Bitcoin when it was $5 and then talked myself out of buying ethereum when it was super low

[scarlet moth]

its ok, I sold Netflix when it was like at $100

[tawdry dove]

I remember when Netflix was mailing people discs lol

[scarlet moth]

that wasn't all that long ago

[tawdry dove]

I was probably in elementary when they were doing it

[scarlet moth]

I had bought stock as soon as I had money in buy.com (former amazon competitor) and Netflix (when it was like $4)

[tawdry dove]

I'm 23 now

[scarlet moth]

they stopped mailing discs like 5 years ago

[tawdry dove]

I meant like the cold mailing discs

[scarlet moth]

ahh

actually I was wrong, you can still get discs (but yeah not free)

[tawdry dove]

Yeah this was like pre 2010 maybe

They would cold mail you discs to try and get you to use the service if I remember correctly

[scarlet moth]

I don't remember that but only started using netflix around 2005

[tawdry dove]

I thought it was a thing. Maybe not lol

But yeah I've had a lot of missed opportunities. Most recently the GME train. Didn't buy it at $15 because I thought it was too expensive lol

[scarlet moth]

nah I'm a long hauler, I'm not gonna play games with stocks

[tawdry dove]

I agree. My portfolio is being built for the long haul but I leave no more than 5% semi liquid to mess around with

[scarlet moth]

I aint worried about things like GME or what not, just put money in smartly, it'll return at a good rate, rinse and repeat

[tawdry dove]

Yup dividend stocks and indexes

Warren Buffet's famous bet

[celest cairn]

at&t with the $2/yr payout tho

[tawdry dove]

That adds up

It's actually on my list to buy next

Walmart, Pfizer, Johnson&Johnson, AT&T, and Blackstone Group are my next purchases

If they hold or go lower between now and the 7th

Then it's Altria, Apple, Cisco, CAT (construction and mining company), Lockheed Martin, Avery Denison, and lastly WP Carey

Hoping these come down

[celest cairn]

AT&Ts done a good job retaining value between 27-30

[tawdry dove]

Yeah. I'm not sure if they have had the same success as 3M with their stock but it's definitely a good one to have

5 years and I'll have paid off my student loans and car. Then I can buy all the stonks 🚀

[scarlet moth]

We actually have a ton of at&t stock as that’s what my In-laws give for gifts

[tawdry dove]

I have some Disney from forever ago because that's what all newborns get apparently

I get $2 every couple of months from them

[north roost]

new coffee for the week, really good!

[tawdry dove]

Major Dickasons was pretty enjoyable

Even going through a keurig

New England Coffee Blueberry and also vanilla aren't bad if you want something flavored

[lilac kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-drinks-another-one-coffee-good-gif-14287005

[merry smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/reference-captain-america-avengers-understood-gif-7991943

[bleak sigil]

I've gotta brag a bit here, got into my first interviews for a infosec job! It's for cyber security role, with focus on AWS, Application security and testing. Exited and horrified at the same time.

[autumn trout]

thats amazing!!!!

[tawdry dove]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-pingu-noot-noot-moves-gif-7369179

[tawdry dove]

Stonks go brrrrr again. Huge gain with tesla and VTI

And for some reason GME just jumped 100%

[uneven oak]

Noice. I closed out some of my Twitter at $71 today, bought at $48 in Jan. Gonna look to close out some more of my portfolio this week because this bullrun is giving me the spooks

[tawdry dove]

I don't think it's good to sell. The market always bounces back

Long term that is

[finite turtle]

Timing is the critical aspect of trading, and timing is haaaard

[uneven oak]

It does - i've got some long term positions i'll keep but i'm gonna close out the rest and enjoy me profs.

[finite turtle]

Market bounces back long term, but individual securities do not necessarily bounce back

So, stay diversified

[tawdry dove]

Coca-Cola baby

Them and 3M

[uneven oak]

My main concern is all the new money pivoting back to bonds and sinking my ship haha

[tawdry dove]

I'm 10% bonds right now

I'm 10% Bonds, 5% Crypto, and then the rest are individual stonks or ETFs

[finite turtle]

My managed portfolio is 68% stocks, 32% bonds, then I've got about 20% of the value of that portfolio in a brokerage account I manage myself that's all stocks

but split across industries with REITs, energy, tech, and financial sectors represented

[tawdry dove]

Yeah i said what I've bought and what's on my buy list last night

It's diverse and I get payed every week of the year with them

[finite turtle]

Dividend stocks are the best

I'm working up a covered call strategy for my long-term-flatter-than-a-pancake divs to squeeze some extra income out of them too

[tawdry dove]

Yeah they are nice but it's kind of lame that I need to invest 400k in order to get 1k a month

[finite turtle]

there are better divs out there for sure - mine average around 8-10% usually

APY of course, so that's far less per month, but still not an inconsiderable rate

[tawdry dove]

Yeah that was a just a quick Google of the average amount 1k took

10 more years of investing lol

[remote echo]

Tendies not profs

[tawdry dove]

I'm an idiot

[finite turtle]

once I have a decent options strategy figured out, I'll post about that, just gotta run some numbers to see just how far OTM would be the best balance

[tawdry dove]

I can't math. It would be 100 years before I get to 400k

[finite turtle]

uhhhh what?

[tawdry dove]

400/month × 12=4800

4800 × 10 ≠ 400000

[finite turtle]

50k compounded daily at 5% interest hits 400k in less than 42 years

[tawdry dove]

Yeah i was doing raw input

[finite turtle]

oh yeah that'll always take forever, gotta factor in compounding

[tawdry dove]

Once I pay off my car and student loans in 5 years I'll have 800 more dollars a month to invest

[finite turtle]

yeah, that's huge

[tawdry dove]

Now all I need is someone to grow old with lol

Pandemic and my anti-social behavior don't help with that though

[finite turtle]

best recommendation I've got there is to not get caught up looking too hard - a "I'll find them when I find them" attitude seems to leave people open for more "good" opportunities than trying to chase down everyone and missing

[tawdry dove]

I've never chased anyone down. My attitude is exactly that, it will happen when it happens. However, never having a SO at any point in my life kinda is the kick in the shins

[finite turtle]

Mind if I ask what age range you're in?

[tawdry dove]

23

These feelings were definitely amplified when I moved out last year though. All my family and friends are in New England but I moved down to the DMV for work

[finite turtle]

Oh nice - I'm from central VA originally. Also, super feel that life. I moved down to GA not knowing anyone after college, about the same age you moved. Ended up working out very well, plus DMV can be a fun area. If you're into games and music, Magfest in National Harbor is worth checking out when we're in a post-pandemic world again.

[tawdry dove]

Yeah i have no doubt it will work out. I just need to actually get outside, when the weather is not crap, and also get back into a group hobby again

Might go visit the local rugby club and see what's up

[finite turtle]

oh nice!

[tawdry dove]

I just did a dumb. I purchased Doge

Knowing my luck it will drop to $0.04 or something

[finite turtle]

lol I have a friend who has been posting the "BUY BITCOIN IT'S FREE MONEY" for the past few weeks

he's been eerily quiet the past couple days

[tawdry dove]

I just bought Bitcoin the other day along with ethereum and Litecoin. Small amount but it's still made me money

[lunar osprey]

I'm done with cryptocurrencies for a bit, moving onto NFTs

[finite turtle]

lol I just can't with NFTs. Digital trading cards, basically

[merry smelt]

My biggest problem with investing (or anything actually) is that I'm so lazy... With some colleagues we did a gig 10 years ago or so, built a mining rig for some thousands (everybody chipped in with like 300-400), and mined Doge, converted to Bitcoin. I've had like 0.74 or something like this Bitcoins, and it was worth around what I "invested". I wanted to wait, but was lazy, so kept in on an exchange instead of setting up a local wallet. Yeah... well... the exchange was Cryptsy: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Cryptsy

[sterile otter]

Can someone give some advice im taking my gcse's next summer and want to do something to do with cyber security does anyone if an apretership is a good route??

[autumn trout]

yes i like apprenticieships

[muted pivot]

Cybersecurity Technologist is a good one from QA, it has some really good teachers. There are also degree ones available with various universities such as Northumbria and Royal Holloway 🙂

[lunar osprey]

I had some money with QuadrigaCX when that blew up, allegedly after the founder faked his own death. If nothing else it at least gave me entertaining emails from the auditors.

On instruction from the Official Committee, Representative Counsel issued a letter to the RCMP, on behalf of Affected Users, requesting the RCMP to exhume the body of Gerald Cotten to confirm his identity.

[short elk]

are there any websites for creating nice looking mock output for a website?
kinda like what carbon.now.sh does for commands, but for websites (including the url bar)

[visual shale]

just being quite

[final solar]

Hi all, what are the security risks of a USB dongle that contains a license key for a software? How could it be used to penetrate a network via getting plugged in to a computer that is connected to a LAN?

Also separate question- If the internet is itself a network, why hasn't a virus ever spread from one computer throughout an entire Internet Service Provider's customer base? Do ISPs have more sophisticated virus scanning/cybersecurity measures in place that prevent that?

[burnt night]

It kinda has, but remember that all the networks are different

Look at mirai

[final solar]

Hmm interesting! Is Mirai the most notorious network virus that has occurred? Do you remember coming across any info on how the ISPs handled it / cleaned up?

Also I don't quite understand what you mean when you say that all the networks are different. I know that a LAN is a network, but if the LAN also has internet access that makes it part of the ISP's network too right? So wouldn't it be vulnerable to anything going on with the ISP's network just by sheer connection to it?

[burnt night]

Mirai was embedded devices

it part of the ISP's network too right? I don't think that distinction matters

The malware usually doesn't care who owns the network

It's just gonna attack the internet

Anything it can touch

[final solar]

Right so why hasn't a virus spread to the inflection point of taking down the whole internet?

[burnt night]

because you can't take the whole internet down

But mirai took down DNS, which was an impact

But you realise the malware has to exploit some vulnerability, right?

You're not going to get the same vulnerability on everything. So it can't spread everywhere.

[final solar]

This assumes there isn't a shared vulnerability amongst all internet browsers?

[burnt night]

Mirai exploited default credentials, it had a HUGE list of like 50 different pairs.

[merry smelt]

Tangentially related: I still think Stuxnet should be something, which would be worthwhile to study even during a whole semester as free credit or such. It's such an intricate artwork, it's incredible.

[burnt night]

Aint likely to happen

[final solar]

Ahh gotcha
That's the only variable that would have to be needed right -- the same vulnerability across all?

[burnt night]

But remember

The internet isn't client devices

The internet is the network infra and servers and everything

[final solar]

You bring that up to say that client devices would try to detect/block it?

[burnt night]

You wouldn't need the same vuln on everything, you'd just need to target vulns in lots of things

[burnt night]

No.

I bring that up because "taking down the internet" would require taking down that infra.

The client devices, no one cares. That's not the internet.

[final solar]

What do you mean by vulns in lots of things?

[final solar]

Ah gotcha

[burnt night]

Like, say, find a vuln that affects half the routers in the world

And I don't mean your home routers

I mean the routers that make up the internet

[final solar]

Do you know the answer to the first q or could you suggest which channel I should post it in?

[random pebble]

What are some of y'all's favorite off the shelf apps for lite testing or study? Trying to find a way to keep my practice up when I only have my phone.

[burnt night]

It'd probably need to be something fake for it to be harmful.

[cold summit]

what part of CTF should I revist to upgrade my hacking skills

[burnt night]

What are you struggling most with? Focus there.

[tawdry dove]

😩 the hits just keep on coming

My doggo was just diagnosed with terminal lung cancer

I haven't cried in years and I just cried the entire 50 minute commute home

[radiant jacinth]

Awe man that really sucks and I'm sorry to hear that.

[tawdry dove]

Yeah she's been the goodest girl

And now I'm crying again. Lol I'm a mess

[radiant jacinth]

Awe. So sorry. It will get better. It's ok, better to let it all out and enjoy any time you have left

[tawdry dove]

Yeah i head home home tomorrow. I moved out in September

[radiant jacinth]

Enjoy all the time with her ❤️

[autumn trout]

give her the biggest hugs from me 🙂

[tawdry dove]

I'm afraid I'll kill her when I arrive tomorrow

She gets super excited whenever I come home and I guess she's been having trouble breathing

[finite turtle]

If anything, though, that's an indication of what a wonderful life full of love and joy you've provided her. It's really hard that pets lives are so short. Really, really hard. So the best we can do is to fill their lives with all the happiness we can give them, and it sounds like you've done exactly that.

[tawdry dove]

Yeah i got her when I was in the 6th grade. I feel really bad for my sisters dog though. He's 1.5 and going to be losing her

[tall frost]

I think it'll be nice if all tryhackme walkthrough videos are placed in the tryhackme YouTube channel, it literally useless.

[patent gate]

Thanks for your input, @tall frost. Many of the walkthrough videos have been made by members of the community, and would generally be hosted on their own channels - This means that if you like the style of the creator, You can stick to what you know. This also rings true for walkthroughs in different languages. Some rooms may even have multiple walkthrough videos from different creators, and hosting them all on the THM channel would get messy fast - Different people have different ways of presenting the material etc. That being said, there are a few creators who are known to make quality content which included THM content - Darksec and John Hammond are 2 examples

[rapid summit]

All you need on a winter day

[radiant jacinth]

hello everyone

[sullen wasp]

we used to have snow then pollution happened

[finite turtle]

I used to get snow then I moved south. I miss snow.

[twin ridge]

I miss snow too

[rapid summit]

It’s an exceptionally snowy winter over here. We had something like 80cm another day, now it’s down to only 60 or so - and that’s still more than any winter in ten years.

[sullen wasp]

sometimes pollution brings more snow

it snowed after 7-8 years

[pine trellis]

texas gets snow -- thank goodness all those silly red repubs ignore global warming.

[burnt night]

Let's try to avoid politics here please

[quaint basin]

#talk-with-us-no-threading please @pine trellis

[tawdry dove]

Big rip to anyone who deployed Google Workspace

It's getting capped at 100TB for the entire org

[burnt night]

GSuite, oof

[tawdry dove]

I mean idk how people didn't see this coming

[burnt night]

I'm sure if you're a big enough org to need more than 100tb then you're big enough to talk to Google about it?

[tawdry dove]

Yeah it'll mainly hit universities I think

Azure will probably see quite a few new customers

Idk of AWS has a competitor

[spark sun]

Where do you see the 100TB limit for enterprise? I'm not seeing anything on their pricing page anywhere close to that

[tawdry dove]

https://support.google.com/a/answer/10403871?hl=en&ref_topic=10431464

Looks like it's edu only

So before this everything was pretty much free for EDU

Also insightful reddit comment. "Google isn't a technology company, they are an advertisement agency with the best technology in the world"

[twin ridge]

pretty much

[radiant jacinth]

@autumn trout please i have never said anything to you please dont get my thm banned thats all i have to do in lockdown atm

[odd acorn]

Hey @radiant jacinth
Could you read the rules please, specifically rule 2 🙂

[radiant jacinth]

ok

noted

thank you

[rapid summit]

More winter photos...

[twin ridge]

looks melty

[rapid summit]

Yep. +5 degrees. Luckily that’s not by a walkway

[tawdry dove]

Did that gutter break its mount?

[sullen wasp]

how is it still holding

[rapid summit]

It’s icy, pretty dense and elastic. There’s still a few meters of that on the roof, keeping the center of mass on the roof.

Or was, before i used a pointy stick on it

[short elk]

guys i wanna make something

but they look kinda ugly

[tawdry dove]

Why is there pink

[steel plover]

I looked at the video, they had pink marshmallows in it, which is where the odd color comes from. If you used normal white marshmallows, they would look "normal". Not a fan of nuttela, but still looks fun to make

[tawdry dove]

Yeah I'm not a marshmallow person

[steel plover]

you could do same recipe minus the marshmallow

[tawdry dove]

I know. I was just saying I'm not a fan of marshmallows

[lilac kayak]

But cookies & cream, I'd be up for those

[scarlet moth]

yes to cookies to cream, no to marshmallows

[lilac kayak]

side note: I love how probably 75% of the time that I look at 'quiet-conversation' it is talk about food

[scarlet moth]

of course

[steel plover]

Reminds, this was Saturday dinner

[rapid summit]

The rest is me and snow? 😄

[lilac kayak]

And even your pic is a pizza, so it really brings it full circle 😆

[uneven oak]

Marshmallows be nastaaaay

[radiant jacinth]

What's the feeling here about extended lockdowns? Are you guys mostly remote anyway and cannot be bothered or maybe missing in-person cyber sec conventions?

[twin ridge]

miss the cons

remote's great though, means I can do thm content without anyone noticing

[tawdry dove]

As a junior new hire its kind of brutal. I'm trying to break college habits and learn the ropes of a new position and remote while nice, isn't great for that. My mental headspace is probably the worst it's been as rolling out of bed immediately into work is pretty depressing. Not being able to separate work and home is rough

I will say I go in two days a week for lab work and it's pretty refreshing

[fallen badge]

we just had a housemate move out because she'd started associating her room with work too much and it was just pumping her anxiety non-stop. a lot of friends have started jobs in the same conditions @tawdry dove and it sounds really tough, my sympathies.

we're in victoria so the lockdown was pretty unrelenting. sort of coming out of it now but there's still a lot of WFH. we actually just ended the lease on our premises so no respite for me in the near future, sadly.

[tawdry dove]

Yeah I'm in the DMV but like on the edge where it starts to go rural. I try to get out and go for hikes or do something but for like 5 weeks straight it was either snow or rain whenever I had free time. It was maddening

[merry smelt]

I also have some troubles with 100% remoting (mainly: it's very hard to keep the work-life balance correct). If anybody is struggling with schedule/physical space, I'd recommend this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snAhsXyO3Ck

[rustic plinth]

Hey all , how is maila root element . Apparently , from what i ve understood , a rootelement is something related to root and can be accessed by root

[merry smelt]

Because that's how XML works. The first node is the root node (the <?xml ... is not a node but information for the parser). Are you sure this is the right channel for your question? 🙂

[rustic plinth]

oh no . Sorry 🙂

[radiant jacinth]

Working remotely comes with responsibility. Many people, including me, learned it the hard way this year. But if done correctly, the gained flexibility can be really useful I guess.

[smoky mortar]

I recommend making a schedule for working from home. Schedule it in 2 hour blocks. Take breaks between blocks. Go outside for fresh air, even if it's only a 5 minute walk around the block. Stick to the schedule, and if not feasible, revise the schedule accordingly. When using a company calendar, block off time in your calendar that is You-time (example: weekends, etc..), so colleagues can see in advance when you are not available for work. Be flexible but also stick to the plan. 🥳

[rapid summit]

I'm in a good position as I have a separate office at home. That makes separating work and free time a lot easier.

[tawdry dove]

I only have one chair lol. I would 100% separate the work from my regular setup but I don't have the space

[north roost]

Definitely grateful that some coffee shops are starting to open up and I can just take my work laptop over there

but yeah having my bed 1 foot away from my work space is not ideal lol

[rapid summit]

We haven't even had them closed since may or so. Now we're getting a three-week closure for dine-in and cafes.

[twin ridge]

good advice @smoky mortar

[tardy yarrow]

hi guys, im a begginner but very apasionated, I've studied informatic systems in networks and I want to study cibersecurity, if someone can help me or teach me, how to solve problems in tryhackme and all of that stuff I will appreciate that, be free to DM me if someone wants to help me and give some advise. I have some knowledge in Linux Ubuntu Server and desktop and very few of Kali I also have an MTA Networking Fundamentals Certification. Ty!!:D

[smoky mortar]

TryHackMe has a beginner path, as well as modules to learn in bite-sized content blocks:
https://tryhackme.com/path/outline/beginner
https://tryhackme.com/module/linux-fundamentals
https://tryhackme.com/module/intro-to-networking
https://tryhackme.com/module/web-hacking-1
https://tryhackme.com/module/hacking-windows-1

[tardy yarrow]

nice! thank you!!

[tawdry dove]

I might dive into room creation. I need an outlet and a break in the monotony

The DF section looks like it needs some help

[short elk]

creating rooms is very fun :)

[twin ridge]

It is!

[tawdry dove]

Yeah I'm thinking of making DF course that covers a little of everything. One that starts assuming that you know absolutely nothing and then moving in baby steps in a similar way to how my college courses moved

[merry smelt]

What's "DF"?

[tawdry dove]

Digital Forensics

[rapid summit]

Oh, not Dwarf Fortress.

[tawdry dove]

Nah I wish lol

When I quickly looked earlier it seemed that the DF section was mainly "here are the tools, now go play". I'm not exactly sure if that is that case, I'll watch some later, but I would like to spread the wealth so to say.

I got some pretty unique experiences with my degree being in DF and I would like to keep myself current as well as maybe introduce someone to the space. I'm not currently in the DFIR space now but I eventually would like to get to it.

[remote echo]

You have to remember that still a majority of the blue team stuff is currently being remade or made from scratch so a lot of the old stuff isn’t going to be anything like what we are planning on or have pushed out

[tawdry dove]

Oh yeah no doubt. That wasn't a knock and I know some new content is in the works. I just don't know what though

[scarlet moth]

Delicious Fries

Delicious Food?

I'm not a DF person but I love this blog https://dfirdiva.com

[tawdry dove]

Yeah DF is honestly, I feel, in this quasi state that makes it easy and hard to get into at the same time

Resources like THM though are what make it easier. I never would have gotten into it without a push from Uni

[scarlet moth]

I did some DF work for a couple years... DF work related to intrusion incidents was interesting... DF work related to HR incidents was soul breaking

[tawdry dove]

And there is also that

[scarlet moth]

I did an HR incident once and said nope not again

[tawdry dove]

DF in relation to any LEO is absolutely brutal

[scarlet moth]

oh yeah, can you imagine working for FBI and doing it? it'd just crush you

HR incidents didn't involve kids

[tawdry dove]

FBI is mainly FinCrime unless it crosses state lines

[scarlet moth]

but it was enough that I was like nope, I can't out my fellow employees

ahh I figured FBI was a lot of child 'stuff'

[tawdry dove]

But there are small sub groups that handle the brunt of the child stuff

Unless it's changed my understanding is that FBI doesn't have jurisdiction unless it crosses state borders or they are asked for help

This may have changed. I last talked to the FBI a couple of years ago

[rapid summit]

Ooh, auroras! Not too impressive ones, but more than i’ve seen this year.

[spark sun]

treasury dept handles things like counterfeiting, not ponzi schemes and check fraud

[tawdry dove]

Yeah i should have specified. White collar FinCrime is FBI generally

@rapid summit wya? I'll be right there

Looks like Finnmark and Lapland are getting some activity right now

[twin ridge]

Shines?

[north roost]

my boss told me a story about an HR lady years ago who got phished and ending up sending a couple checks to some random bank account lol, its pretty worrying how much PII they guard

[twin ridge]

I haven't seen Aurora's in decades :(

[tawdry dove]

@twin ridge here, has Aurora

[steel plover]

is that a special filter you used @tawdry dove

[tawdry dove]

No. All of these are out of camera

[steel plover]

really green though

[tawdry dove]

All were taken on an A7ii with a 14mm Rokinon lens. Shot between 600-3000 ISO, F2.8, and shutterspeed was somewhere around 1/16th of a second or so

Yeah depending on the type and craziness of the solar activity it can change the colors

[steel plover]

that is one thing I would like to see some day though

[tawdry dove]

That and since these are out of body no color correction has been made

So certain colors will overpower others

[short elk]

holy macaroni

seeing northern lights is on my bucket list

some quiet cabin in norway yes please

[tawdry dove]

Yeah this was in Norway. I went in November 2019 when I was studying in Berlin for the semester

[short elk]

long commute

[tawdry dove]

Yeah this was our week break from classes. Honestly not bad of a flight. It was like 3 hours to Oslo?

And then we flew to Alta the next morning and that was like 4 hours I think

Got the entire row to myself which was rad

[short elk]

4 hours from oslo to alta?

[tawdry dove]

@jake it might be a lot shorter. I zonked out on the flight

[short elk]

did you go and see the lights yourself or as part of like an expedition type of thing idk what they call it

tbf i just looked at the map and norway is actually kinda long

[tawdry dove]

@weary haven on a pullout off the E45 just outside Alta, Norway

This was our "school vacation" so we had a week to go wherever we wanted. A friend and I went specifically for the lights and got multiple nights of them, which is apparently rare. @short elk

[short elk]

so jealous

glad you got to see them like that though

[tawdry dove]

It was either Norway or North Africa/Middle East ish. During our planning phase civil unrest broke out in the region so we decided not to be dumb dumbs and went to Norway

Flights to Jordan are surprisingly cheap from Berlin

If you only bring a backpack it was like $50

[short elk]

ah nice

some good locations

i wanna go to jordan too, i forgot what the place i wanna see is called though uhhhhh

[tawdry dove]

The underground palace thing?

[short elk]

ah, petra, yeahhh

[tawdry dove]

Yeah

Also just joking around we looked to see how much it would cost to go to Madagascar. Unfortunately, the flight times didn't work out but it was only slightly more expensive than the flight to Norway. You could also like like a king because we found a 30 Bedroom Palace thing on Airbnb for like $50 USD a night

[short elk]

hahahaha that would be amazing

the roads in madagascar are terrible though so don't expect too much driving if you ever go 😉

top gear?

[tawdry dove]

I'm fine with walking. Also mopeds are surprisingly durable lol

[autumn trout]

I wanna go to Disneyland

[tawdry dove]

Disney World is better in my opinion

[autumn trout]

i mean

its america vs Paris

Unless I go to Tokyo I guess

[tawdry dove]

Oh you mean Euro Disneyland

I thought you meant LA Disneyland

[autumn trout]

yeee haha

it's like what

£30 for me to go to Paris

vs £1000 to go to america

[tawdry dove]

Nice

[short elk]

@autumn trout disneyland paris is magical 🥺

[twin ridge]

so I hear

never been there, even though it's not that far

[short elk]

i'll take u and bee

[hollow dock]

It hurts to breathe

[scarlet moth]

you might want to go to the doctor

[hollow dock]

does it look like i can afford it?

[scarlet moth]

I don't know? but honestly, that is worrisome, depends where you are at, in the US there are free clinics

[hollow dock]

https://tenor.com/view/chuckles-im-in-danger-ralph-wiggum-the-simpsons-gif-14149962

[hasty marlin]

[radiant jacinth]

have a good ( hacking ) day all

[uneven oak]

you too kind sir

[radiant jacinth]

thanks homie

[limpid geode]

you tooo mahn

[radiant jacinth]

[tardy yarrow]

do you recomend to get the subscription?

[uneven oak]

Oh yes

Some fun rooms to be had!

[tardy yarrow]

I was with network fundamentals and I knew the "Introductory Networking" because of my studies

but last classes are only for VIP members

and I dont know anything about that things

Thats why Im thinking to subscribe

if I am student I get discounts isn't it?

[dry aspen]

For learning path sure

[tardy yarrow]

this is why Im thinking to buy it

[uneven oak]

Yeah 20% discount I believe, just need to sign up with a .edu email i think? Or hit up support if you dont have an .edu address probs

[burnt night]

It does more than just .edu

[tardy yarrow]

because this paths are basic concepts to learn the last two I think

[dry aspen]

Not only that u can do cool rooms like burp,zap which will help u in web ctfs

[burnt night]

!docs free-path

[deft fossil]

TryHackMe

What rooms should you do? A free guide for beginners

https://blog.tryhackme.com/free_path

From TryHackMe with ❤!

[burnt night]

That might help.

[uneven oak]

Fairs

[tardy yarrow]

ty!!

very useful

[limpid geode]

yeaah would defientely recommend THM premium

[tardy yarrow]

nice

and how can I get the discount?

[limpid geode]

not too sure on that point though i hve heard and i think there is a student discount

[burnt night]

Use your student email as your account email.

[tardy yarrow]

ty 😄

maybe I will wait to get my laptop

and then buy the subscription

[noble trellis]

Anybody did. Blueteam path on tryhackme?

[tawdry dove]

Doggo has went to sleep 😭

[patent gate]

Sleep sleep? Sorry to hear that Moose.

[tawdry dove]

Yeah sleep sleep

[finite turtle]

I'm so sorry to hear that Moose - it's always a hard thing to go through, and even more so with the state of things now. All we can do is give them the best life we can while they're around, and from the sound of how much you care for doggo, I feel pretty confident that you did just that.

[scarlet moth]

I'm so sorry Moose, we had to do that for our dear beloved 15 yr old beagle in October. My heart still breaks every day without him

[tawdry dove]

Yeah it was rough. I'm sure I'll have a real ugly cry eventually but for right now I compartmented the feelings and shoved them way down

I don't want to deal with them right now

[patent gate]

@bright cliff You are 100% Here 😄

[hard gazelle]

Today I talked about Kubernetes Security in my company, and the knowledge from the room "The Docker Rodeo" was really useful.

I want to say great thank you, @serene trench .

[serene trench]

Thank you @hard gazelle I really appreciate the feedback! I'm really glad that you found it of use 😄

[hard gazelle]

Now we read this "Learn Kubernetes Security" in my company, it needs knowledge of Docker and namespace, Linux Capabilities, and so on.
Your Docker room really hits the spot!✨
https://www.packtpub.com/product/learn-kubernetes-security/9781839216503

[twin ridge]

it is a great room

[radiant jacinth]

Isn't IPPSec based in Florida?

[short elk]

i'm pretty sure he likes to keep his personal life low key

[sand aspen]

any THMers from mexico?

[twin ridge]

The probability is non-zero

[sullen wasp]

but less then one

[dry aspen]

probablity is 0 < P < 1

[sullen wasp]

yup yup

[twin ridge]

is probably pretty close to 1 though

[sullen wasp]

👀

[scarlet moth]

I don't know if I've seen someone from Mexico here but welcome

[short elk]

white to move, mate in 2

[autumn trout]

Horsy to squarey, castle near to pointy hat lady

ez clap

[short elk]

@autumn trout just because it's you, yes xxx

[finite turtle]

Even with Bee's explanation, I don't see it, lol

[scarlet moth]

queen to queen... that is called a horsey transform

[short elk]

bee is wrong

i don't even know what bee was saying but i said yes because lov

[scarlet moth]

I might be blind, I don't see mate in 2

[sullen wasp]

same

[short elk]

i'll leave it for a bit to see if anyone can see it before i spoil it

[scarlet moth]

well I guess I do see it

as long as your opponent doesn't see it

[short elk]

there's no way to stop it

[sullen wasp]

in puzzles opponent plays best move

[scarlet moth]

hmm then its not what I'm thinking

[short elk]

i'll put it in spoiler tags

[scarlet moth]

well the best move isn't to stop it

but sure post it in spoiler

[short elk]

||h8=Q+, Qh5, Qxh5#||

[sullen wasp]

wait

why is the board flipped?

a should be on left side

was this custom set position?

[short elk]

hehehe

[sullen wasp]

lol

[short elk]

nah i saw it on some subreddit

this position is possible in a game, but i think they made it like this

[sullen wasp]

white spot is always on right side when pieces are set

[short elk]

i know

[sullen wasp]

so they will move upwards

[scarlet moth]

its check in 3...

I'm confused

[short elk]

confused about what?

[sullen wasp]

it is mate in 2

black and white move = 1 move

[short elk]

1 move is a move by both players

[scarlet moth]

nevermind, maybe I don't understand the notation enough

[short elk]

and led to answer your question, what could happen for this to be a real game is, both players run their kings and pawns all the way to the other side

[scarlet moth]

oh

[short elk]

when playing with white, A1 is bottom left, H1 is bottom right

but in the picture, H8 is bottom left, meaning the players ran their pieces all the way up the board

[scarlet moth]

ok so yeah this is a mind warp

[short elk]

yeah lol, it was on a subreddit where people post positions and people have to comment what they think is the best move, and this one threw loads of people off lol

[sullen wasp]

i mean why it is more like chess riddle then puzzle

[short elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AnarchyChess/

well yee

[autumn trout]

jake

thats a joke subreddit

my answer is correct in that sub

[short elk]

i know

bee

i don't even know what this means Horsy to squarey, castle near to pointy hat lady

[short elk]

mood

[burnt night]

Lmao

Everyone thinks en passant is cheating

[short elk]

i sent a message to chess.com after the first time i saw it

thought the software was buggy

[sullen wasp]

[sullen wasp]

when i played this against my friend otb they were like what are you trying to do

[short elk]

yeah i guess otb you'd have toa ctually google it and show them otherwise they'd think you were cheating

[sullen wasp]

yeah

[autumn trout]

Hikaru is a genius

[sullen wasp]

[short elk]

hidden move

[sullen wasp]

this is enabled when you are grand master

[radiant jacinth]

what's the fuzz with everybody playing chess now lol

you're all cheeky bcs of queen gambit?

[dry aspen]

Someone said chess👀

[short elk]

i assume queens gambit got loads of people into it

[burnt night]

Let's keep it sfw tho @radiant jacinth

Educational environment etc etc

[radiant jacinth]

ah, sorry, it wasn't meant that way

[dry aspen]

@sullen wasp sleep

[scarlet moth]

this is one of my favorite things https://www.reddit.com/r/chessbeginners/comments/kjfwnw/king_takes_king/

[dry aspen]

this is of the best checkmate

[tribal heart]

#randomuselessqueen

overkill much?

[scarlet moth]

if it takes you 3 queens to checkmate, you need to learn how to play chess

[dry aspen]

Opponent was good

[tribal heart]

lol.. he plays he just likes to troll

#KingH4x

[mighty echo]

Which dumb person added en passant anyway

[tawdry dove]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-disbelief-stunned-mr-bean-gif-9553766

Volcano about to go boom boom

[scarlet moth]

didn't the UK get covered in ash last time?

[tawdry dove]

Allegedly

[short elk]

which volcano?

[tawdry dove]

One in Iceland

They've had 17000 earthquakes in the past week lol

[short elk]

holy

[tawdry dove]

Also Hawaii is on Tsunami watch because an 8.1 just rocked New Zealand

Which is rough because I think it said that it would hit Hawaii at like 3-4am

And the tsunami watch was just canceled

This has been the weather with moose

[smoky mortar]

That's a lot of quakes.

[steel plover]

depending on the size, but I think in some areas it is normal to get quakes

plus Iceland is a volcanic island

[twin ridge]

Oh Iceland, carries on

All's quiet in Central France

[finite turtle]

Ok, it's been long enough since the chess puzzle, let's see if a life-and-death problem from Go can get snuck in here before they're back!

Black to move and kill.

[autumn trout]

Not pictured: The gun that Black will use to move and kill the opponent

[twin ridge]

I was thinking RPG

But I don't know if that's allowed in Go.

[tawdry dove]

@twin ridge you have to worry about the ash

It will shut down Europe for weeks

[twin ridge]

I'm already annoyed at Africa as there's sand in the air throwing the pollution index way up

[short elk]

i don’t know how to play go :(

[twin ridge]

anyways, the Ash'll hit Britain more than France

[tawdry dove]

Depends on the eruption size and current wind patterns honestly

[twin ridge]

I'd say it'll affect flights, but noone's really flying these days

[autumn trout]

uh what

am i gonna die

[twin ridge]

from an Icelandic volcano?

probably not

[tawdry dove]

I wonder if these earthquakes are affecting their Geothermal

[twin ridge]

likely not helping, but I'm sure they've thought of that

[tawdry dove]

Yeah i was just thinking. If they shove pipes into the ground a vibration wouldn't be good for them

I'm sure they have a tolerance measure though

[finite turtle]

If it's reasonable for general voice chat, I can do an impromptu Learn to Play Go thing there sometime

[merry smelt]

I didn't play go for a long time but Q1 seems to solve the puzzle for me.

[mighty echo]

https://youtu.be/YgeYScYe8wI

@dry aspen @autumn trout

[finite turtle]

Nice! Yup, Q1 is the correct answer. It forces white to either fill in what would otherwise be an eye at R1 or lose the P1 stone.

[merry smelt]

thanks 🙂 I mean, it seems pretty basic: as black you have to attack, because if you only close on T3/O1 then with Q1 white has two eyes → attack on Q1 (if you attack on R1, he'll take your R1 with Q1 and still have two eyes)

[tawdry dove]

Y'all ever have those memories when you think back and realize that in said situation you were an idiot