general

[autumn solar]

Tracking. Lack of security. Many good reasons.

[torpid zinc]

My ISP uses their own which will probably be useless

[autumn solar]

I personally use Quad9 with malware blocking and DNSSEC

[torpid zinc]

As standard I use cloudflare

[torpid zinc]

Your isp doesn't track you be default

Although it will have records of your Internet usage if you don't mask it

[autumn solar]

It's the although I'm concerned about

[torpid zinc]

Not that majority of people need to worry

All they see is what websites you access and if you're using tor, vpn or proxy

[marble lava]

lets just say i do NOT want my isp knowing if im on tor

gotta hop on a vpn before using tor browser

[torpid zinc]

What country you in

[marble lava]

US

still dont want any agency or isp knowing if i use tor

[torpid zinc]

Why is the US going to be bothered by using tor

[frail stag]

🤧

[elder marsh]

Bridges

[marble lava]

i cant remember exactly but there was a member of NSA who said if you are found to use tor they sort of are inclined to believe you have bad intentions

[marble lava]

they can still see if i connect to a tor node dude

[weak rampart]

telling them right now son

[marble lava]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-lowtiergod-ltgstare-lowtiergod-stare-gif-10285104637921288731

[autumn solar]

VPN before using Tor is a good thing in any case regardless of what's on the exit end

Or who

[frail stag]

I am still waiting for those to let me know why it’s bad lmao

[weak rampart]

pretty sure they can't see you use tor if you're using VPN before right

[marble lava]

exactly

[torpid zinc]

That's if there is other indicators or conspiracy of crime if connected to a crime

[frail stag]

Because I’m ready to argue back

[marble lava]

they will just see im on a vpn which i dont care if they see

[elder marsh]

Go look at Bridges. They're an anonymous entry point under Connection in the app. Friend's done it a couple of times on college wifi.

[weak rampart]

yeah so you're good

[marble lava]

yeah dude i still want to be ablt to be on tor and not deal with the NSA breathing down my back

[frail stag]

I made that video specifically targeting those who where saying that sharing my name and date of birth is bad.

[weak rampart]

how are they going to know you're using tor if you setup VPN before that?

[marble lava]

iirc i did and wasl ike fuck that i dont wanna set up my own bridges

[elder marsh]

You just use the default lol

[marble lava]

they wont if i route my traffic through a vpn

[elder marsh]

Don't need to make a custom one. It isn't obvious but there's 3 to pick from

[marble lava]

but if i dont and i connect to a tor node they will see "oh this guy connected to a tor node hes obvisouly using tor"

[torpid zinc]

Good luck with that, your phone most likely has a 0day that the state uses

[elder marsh]

Button brought up a menu

[frail stag]

Tell me Gingus, do u change ur stance now

[weak rampart]

then what are you worried about?

[marble lava]

i dont have a phone i use a tin can with some string

[weak rampart]

stance about what?

[marble lava]

im not thats why i use a vpn

[frail stag]

About my name and date of birth lol

[marble lava]

i just dont want my isp or government agencies knowing im accessing tor directly

if they know i use a vpn i dont care

[weak rampart]

what about them

[weak rampart]

my bad, probably read the situation wrong

[timid orbit]

Your name and DOB are some of the first things ppl learn about you IRL…

[frail stag]

U said it would get me doxxed

[weak rampart]

I said it's bad practice in the long run

[elder marsh]

You'll be fine via VPN

[autumn solar]

I'm going to say to that the same thing I say to people on Telegram: while privacy is always a concern, I highly doubt they'd burn a zero day on targets that aren't high value

[marble lava]

i know assuming the vpn provider isnt selling my info to the government

[sick lance]

People have different threat models, big whoop.

[elder marsh]

Bridges are a nice bonus for not trusting the VPN provider either

[weak rampart]

the real question is what are you doing on telegram

[frail stag]

Then how come nothing has happened yet even when I said they can have permission to doxx me or hack me

[autumn solar]

Random people using Samsung or iPhone or etc would qualify as not being high value

[torpid zinc]

@marble lava you'll also find with funding, the NSA is only go for you if you are connected to high crime

[marble lava]

buddy I DONT CARE

[sick lance]

..Selling?

Lmao.

[frail stag]

I literally gave them permission to hack me lmao 🤣

[marble lava]

george washington would run a vpn if he connected to tor

[sick lance]

Hello, court order for one record please.

[marble lava]

i promise u that

[marble lava]

are u implying they are gonna just give it up

[autumn solar]

be vewy vewy quiet I'm hunting wabbits

[elder marsh]

Bridges step in there. On mobile it's
Configure connection
Config Bridge
Pick one (Snowflake is my choice; makes it look like a video call)

[sick lance]

Not quite how it works either.

[autumn solar]

😁

[bold rover]

https://tenor.com/view/hugs-rickroll-gif-24588121

[sick lance]

They do.

[weak rampart]

the whole idea is that this "nothing" that's happening can easily be turned to "something" when you least expect it, I told you it's best if you stay anonymous and not making the chances bigger by posting your personal info everywhere like a public ssh key

[frail stag]

Well I said, I was fine with them sending me phishing emails and fine with them trying to find private information about me lmao I said go ahead try

[marble lava]

i know wha tthe tor bridge is im just not gonna use those if i can just use a vpn

[torpid zinc]

I need a warrant for muffin0825
Conspiracy of using tor

[weak rampart]

😭😭

[sly zealot]

this guy is insane.

[marble lava]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-lowtiergod-ltgstare-lowtiergod-stare-gif-10285104637921288731

[marble lava]

imagine hating on another mans opsec

thats CRAZY work

[sick lance]

People use for.

Big whoop.

[elder marsh]

It's so the VPN provider can't see either though. You can always go to Mullavad, they've been proven to have no logs

[frail stag]

Lollll - like I would fall for this

[nimble prism]

Guys what do you do when someone try to scam you?

[marble lava]

yes i get that i know what a tor bridge is

[sick lance]

People run anonymous tor, then sign in to social media, use full screen.

[marble lava]

i still have ptsd because i treid it like a year ago and it was pissing me off so i said fuck that

[weak rampart]

said little Timmy, crossing the street and suddenly he got hit by a truck

[bold rover]

Scam back

[marble lava]

thats a @bold rover type play

[sly zealot]

please don't tell me you are ok with your gmail address getting leaked.

[bold rover]

https://tenor.com/view/ryo-yamada-thumbs-up-bocchi-the-rock-anime-smile-gif-27225579

[torpid zinc]

Your opsec would be not even engaging in the convo, you have already given reasonable ground for suspension of using a tor browser if it was illegal

[sick lance]

Not surprised.

[weak rampart]

Microsoft security, how may I help you

[frail stag]

Though there is always risk - I’m clearly not having risk just solely from my name and date of birth.

[marble lava]

NSA this whole convo is about behavior happening in minecraft'

problem solved

opsec restored

[nimble prism]

Same. One time I flooded the password inbox of a Paypal scammer

[weak rampart]

this makes the risk higher

[bold rover]

[weak rampart]

what's wrong with full screen?

[frail stag]

Fine, leak my email address lmao. I have ways to counteract that if u think i dont. Go ahead and try. 🤣🤣🤣

[bold rover]

Everything

[marble lava]

can give away your monitors resolution

[bold rover]

Never do that

[sick lance]

Really!?

[nimble prism]

They can profile you from your screen resolution

[weak rampart]

wait what

oh my god

[marble lava]

when you access a site the site has to send how ever many pixels worth of info to your screen to view

[sick lance]

Yeah..

[bold rover]

You did it didn't you

[sly zealot]

talking with you such a ragebait.

[marble lava]

keep tor in the size it defaults to so u dont give this away

[bold rover]

https://tenor.com/view/smug-smile-he-he-he-elf-frieren-gif-8451077570471053485

[weak rampart]

nah I've like

it's good

[sick lance]

Randomised, never full.

[nimble prism]

That's how they do to profile you with minimal information, screen resolution, User-Agent...

[torpid zinc]

Time to watch Murphys diesel on youtube

[frail stag]

Lmaooooo

[weak rampart]

my country doesn't give 2 shits about what you do online

[marble lava]

i just leave it what it defaults too

[torpid zinc]

Why you like this

[marble lava]

obviously u could make it a bit bigger i just dont care enough to do so

[weak rampart]

but how can they track you from screen resolution, don't most monitors use 1920:1080 or something

[marble lava]

that still is giving away info

[bold rover]

https://tenor.com/view/velzarii-velzarii-vt-velzarii-vtuber-vtuber-envtuber-gif-14437673943388898455

[sly zealot]

you don't really need opsec until you are not into very black hat stuff... if it's ok for you enjoy buddy. It's completely fine.

[marble lava]

its worse if u have some weird resolution that only a few laptops have or somethign

[weak rampart]

yeah but what? he's on a PC. good job sherlock

[weak rampart]

in that case yea

[nimble prism]

Absolutly

[marble lava]

thats leaking info idiot

[autumn solar]

Cute demon mommy

[marble lava]

the point is u want to give the least amount of info up on tor as possible

[bold rover]

Not everyone
-# 3440 x 1440

[weak rampart]

let me turn on Lucas mode and ask "what are they going to do by just my name and date of birth"

[marble lava]

now thats a different story

[weak rampart]

it's not 50 people that use a specific resolution, it's much more

[marble lava]

point is though best practiec dont fullscreeen tor its not hard to do and it just obfuscates a bit more of your info

[marble lava]

yes but it NARROWS IT DOWN DUMBASS

you compromise someone on tor by consistnatlty narrowing down who it could be

timezone, language, setup

[weak rampart]

now explain the same thing to Lucas

as I apparently cannot do that

[marble lava]

you do this enough you can go from it could be 1 of billions of people to maybe 1 of 10s of thousands

that makes figuring u out so much easier

[frail stag]

U where one that thought just my name and date of birth could get me hacked….. literally the most u could do was a phishing scam - that’s the most basic thing a scammer or hacker could do lmaoooooo

[weak rampart]

yeah I get your point, I agree to your point but still, the fuck are you doing on tor to get special attention from the FBI

like hello

[marble lava]

it depends on what u do online but it also goes beyond that as u dont know who on tor is doing what

[sly zealot]

those who are in black hat stuff they would understand. Shit amount OPSEC is useful when you want to hide from the government and interpole itself. if you are not, carry on. It's not about hacking you, it's about finding you. Intelligence just needs a bit of info about you and you are compromised.

[sly zealot]

bro is on drugs

[weak rampart]

yeah so the fbi is shooting blind

[marble lava]

they are shooting more blind if they dont know ur screen resolution

[weak rampart]

yea

[marble lava]

u usually dont catch people on tor based on 1 critical mistake its a series of mistakes that narrows down who they could be

so u would want to avoid anyhting that narrows u down

[weak rampart]

wait, if an end node gets hacked by the fbi, isn't it like instant game over for someone that uses it as an end node

[sick lance]

Illegal and doubt.

[marble lava]

no because onion services meet at a rendezvous point

[frail stag]

Bro…. U seen it for urself, u tried phishing me and it didn’t work. That should tell u enough that im not worried about having my name and date of birth out there because im smart enough to catch these things. Stop trying to sound dangerous lollll

[sly zealot]

I never meant that you will get hacked, in that sense, elon musk, donald trump and all famous people can get hacked. It's about not letting people know who you really are.

[sick lance]

How many end nodes do you think are under law enforcement?

[marble lava]

if i connect to an onion service vs connect on google on tor browser the way we connect is different

[weak rampart]

I cannot say

[nimble prism]

Do you know ping calls ? They can copy your voice

[sick lance]

It's > than 1.

[weak rampart]

yea, and why are you asking this

[marble lava]

even if they had the node it wouldnt matter dude

u dont connect directly to the exit node unless ur using clearweb activities

[sly zealot]

that wan't a phishing email. and stop using that same term again and again. if you know how to use google then search about that website.

[frail stag]

I’m not trying to hide my identity, because I know a phishing email when I see one, maybe someone who has trouble with spotting phishing emails should hide they’re identity 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[sick lance]

The FBI doesn't need to hack it?

[nimble prism]

What's your goal in the end?

[sick lance]

Usually to score more than the losing team.

[sly zealot]

damn bro. sorry my bad. I am no one, you are great. rest your ego now.

[frail stag]

Just because it’s a “legit” website doesn’t mean it’s not a phishing email….. phishing emails want to use a legitimate website, so they can build “trust” - that’s how they work, it’s just being smart enough to spot one.

[weak rampart]

I may have to read more about tor

[marble lava]

u should

[frail stag]

When did I say ur no one? - I’m not hating on u? Or saying ur not smart? I’m simply saying I’m not worried abt sharing my identity.

[weak rampart]

Scrubz, any idea who could help me with the bot for verification being down?

[sick lance]

No.

[weak rampart]

okay thanks (free rep)

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sick lance (current: #2 - 3967)

[nimble prism]

Tor is easy to use but the inner is more interesting, because for a user it's just a proxy

[sly zealot]

my bad. my bad. I am sorry buddy. you can tattoo your fk8n name up your ass and post it on the social media.

[sick lance]

AFAIK Ben is the only who will have access, and he's AFK for the next day and a half.

[hallow hazel]

scrubz you finish RE9 yet?

[sick lance]

Yup.

[marble lava]

its still good to know how connections are set up so you can understand why its so hard to just "hack" something in the connection and see everyhtign happening

[sly zealot]

ok. we are acknowledging that. so stop now.

[hallow hazel]

bruh i’m like 3hrs in 😄

how’d you like it

[frail stag]

What even is this about now? lol 😭😭😭😭 ur not even tryna prove a point now, ur just saying stuff out of anger.

[sick lance]

One of my favourites.

[marble lava]

like even the way tor sets up its site naming is super smart

[hallow hazel]

yeah same, so far it has been a fucking blast

[weak rampart]

you mean the sites being hosted looking like md5 hash?

[marble lava]

no like if u have a site called ajdnwaudwiudnwaiud442.onion

that random string of characters isnt random

[weak rampart]

yeah that's exactly what I'm talking about

[marble lava]

its generated throguh the public key site version and the checmsum value

[frail stag]

Thank u for understanding that sharing name and date of birth does not affect someone who is smart enough to have ways to counteract any attempt being made on them with that information. Thank u.

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sly zealot (current: #3663 - 1)

[sick lance]

Imo it's a perfect mix between Grace and horror, Leon with action.

I love how Requim sprays.

[marble lava]

theres no hash involved there

ur comparing the checksum value to when you apply checksum to the public key and version

[weak rampart]

yeah my bad, meant algorithm

[marble lava]

yeah

[sly zealot]

#general message

[marble lava]

so if that checksum value doesnt match when you run the algorithm on the public key and version u know the site cant exist

[hallow hazel]

yeah exactly, did you play grace first person and leon third like it is or you switched?

[marble lava]

it prevents people from going to a different tor site if they mispell 1 character

[weak rampart]

it's made so it's completely random?

[sick lance]

Like it is.

The hotel with Grace would suck in 3rd person.

[sly zealot]

bro not being able to see an avatar is so weired

[hallow hazel]

i usually can’t handle fpv cause i get motion sickness, but so far its been so good that i’ve forgotten about it

[marble lava]

yes i dont say "i want my site to be called wadunawudnbwaiu42m1.onion"

tor chooses it for me based on my sites public key

[weak rampart]

obviously yea

[marble lava]

yea but the reason why this is imporant is imainge if there was a site called drugs.onion and i wanted to try and catch a mistake of someoone accessing the site i might call it drugss.onion

because of the way tor works i cant do this

[frail stag]

But how was I able to find ur name Mayuk Sarkar and u never gave it to me, and my full name is already on my profile? - see what I mean?

[sick lance]

Your internet is slow my dude.

[marble lava]

because the name is generated based on my public key version and checksum value

[sick lance]

It would look great in VR.

[weak rampart]

yes but DNS-like service doesn't exist for Tor sites right?

[marble lava]

no it doesnt thats why ur able to prevent this

[weak rampart]

yeah exactly

[hallow hazel]

yeah and it looks great on my 5120x1440 oled as well 😄

[marble lava]

because if not u could catch a lot of people making a mistake if u just made the site 1 character different

[empty sinew]

hello guys im 13 year old trying to learn cybersecurity, can anyone with experience text me,that would help,thanks ❤

[sly zealot]

it isn't

[frail stag]

Okay

[sick lance]

Attention to detail is amazing too.

[sly zealot]

ok love that

[weak rampart]

yeah and also it would be far easier to access certain websites which maybe shouldn't be visited by anyone

[sly zealot]

yup.

[sick lance]

Reboot it, my Pfp will load.

[marble lava]

well thats not really the point tor doesnt really caer if u access illegal material

[sly zealot]

sure sure

[hallow hazel]

true, you gonna replay and farm for plat?

[marble lava]

it would be a lot easier for people if the sites could have a domain name but it also brings risk in people trying to exploit human mistakes

[weak rampart]

yeah tor is the protocol lol, the community and what they do using it is what's fucked up

[marble lava]

i mean it depends on ur views

if ur a liberitarian and someone like ross ulbrict u would view it as a good that u can buy drugs over it

[sick lance]

Yeah, starting the next difficulty tomorrow

[marble lava]

someone with different views might say its bad

[weak rampart]

yeah if I'm a drug addict of course I'd like I can purchase drugs off it

[weak rampart]

what do you say?

[frail stag]

I know what u mean @sly zealot - that hiding ur identity stops u from being a target - but the thing is im not worried about being a target because I have ways to counteract that - if that makes sense - as u already seen for urself lmao

[marble lava]

i used to think like ross but as ive gotten older thought maybe we should not want this'

i still really like ross but i think at this point id prefer the drug sales to stop

[frail stag]

Again this is not a message of hate, or saying ur not smart, it’s just a way of saying that I have done lots of studying on how to protect myself

[sly zealot]

yeah. buddy please stop. peace. you are right I get your point. My point didn't made sense from the starting.

[weak rampart]

it's like asking "do you support illegal videos of children being abused, drugs being sold and anything in-between being on the internet"

[frail stag]

Well both of our points are equally valid - it’s up to the person to decide what they would like to do

[sly zealot]

peace.

[frail stag]

Peace ✌🏽

[nimble prism]

Goodbye everyone have fun ! 😄 Peace

[weak rampart]

good night

[marble lava]

well thats not a fair characterization since i think CSAM and online drug trafficking are very different

ud be hard pressed to find anyone that thinks csam should be allowed on tor

but the moral ambiguity comes when u start talking about drug use

[weak rampart]

nothing about drug use is something to be supportive to

it kills people, ruins lives

[marble lava]

yeah but the common arugement is who are we to stop them from doing that

[weak rampart]

...

[sly zealot]

What you are doing won't harm you but it's really bad opsec. nothing else. if you didn't understand what I meant then you need to get your fundamentals clear.

[marble lava]

u gotta really think about it dude it isnt as cut and dry as u think and a lot of it has to do with your political views

[sick lance]

CSAM should not be allowed full stop.

Anywhere.

[marble lava]

i never said it should?

[weak rampart]

"hey, a dude is pointing a gun at his head and is about to shoot but who am I to stop him? he decides it"
like dude.

[marble lava]

the only thing i said was that it isnt fair to characterize drug trafficking and CSAM as the same behavior over tor

[sick lance]

Although I could argue, you'll find plenty of people who use TOR for the exact purpose.

[marble lava]

that involves a non consenting party

[weak rampart]

they're both illegal, not the same but illegal

[sick lance]

Well you can.

It's both illegal.

[frail stag]

I do understand what u mean, that by hiding ur identity u just avoid being targeted from scams and hackers, but the reality is if I wasn’t educated on this stuff then yeah I would be susceptible, and how do u know that I intentionally want to see who will target me? Right

[marble lava]

yea but the question is do they actually think morally it should be allowed or do they just have an extreme sexual deviant mind

[weak rampart]

it doesn't matter, these people are evil

[marble lava]

yeah but there is a much stronger arguement for the online drug trafficking to be legal compared to CSAM

[sick lance]

It's down to the individual.

[marble lava]

really all im trying to convey is there is grey area on tor it isnt as black and white as people might think

[weak rampart]

it's like asking "should it be better to kill an infant or an adult man"

[sly zealot]

@frail stag to get an analogy: Even if you have the best security, why to give them the address to your house anyway. you don't. you don't want them to even know you exist, let alone hacking you.

[marble lava]

its not IT INVOLVES A NON CONSENTING PARTY

if im wanting to do heroin right now who are u to say i cant

[weak rampart]

what non consenting party

[sick lance]

Nobody is safe from hacked.

It's not a case of if, it's when.

[frail stag]

Well my address is different lmao, that’s information I do not give, I just said date of birth and age ahahaha

[marble lava]

drug use in a vacuum just involves the person using the drugs they are making that choise

[sick lance]

So that makes it okay to purchase online?

[marble lava]

choice *

[weak rampart]

yes, I can't stop you from doing that

[marble lava]

perhaps

[weak rampart]

sure, doesn't make it more legal. morally it's not the same, I agree, BUT that doesn't matter

[frail stag]

But even then, if they get my address it would just give them more of a chance of making a better phishing email, but again I have trained myself to spot a phishing email even if they have my, address, email, phone number, full name, etc….

[marble lava]

human behavior is murky u cant just say something is wrong and its axiomatic

[sly zealot]

that was an analogy my friend. damn god! Sorry to say buddy but don't have any intellect.

[tame axle]

I need help can some one dm

[weak rampart]

what do you need help with

[marble lava]

well it does in that u need to catagorize different behavior on tor differently

[tame axle]

my vm is stuck for like 5 mins now

[sly zealot]

for what frnd?

[weak rampart]

bro what does it matter if in the end it's all illegal

[sly zealot]

then delete it

[frail stag]

Yeah but the reason why we are here right now, is from earlier when I was saying my name and date of birth will not affect me

[weak rampart]

heard people complaining about that, not sure how to fix it, probably look at #1333993673381253162

[marble lava]

because what it brings up is that there are some laws where u can argue the legislation isnt reflected in what should be reality

the same way slavery was once legal but it was later deemed to be immoral

[sly zealot]

okay. but I said that is ok rt?

[weak rampart]

so basically, are you defending drug use?

[sly zealot]

I acknowledged that rt?

[tame axle]

no no like the virtual box one rthat i run locally on my pc its been stuck at boot sequence for a while now

[marble lava]

no i legit said earlier i used to think like ross but ive gone more towards i probably wouldnt want drug trafficking to take place on tor

[weak rampart]

oh, that's a different story

[empty sinew]

hello

[sick lance]

Probably set it up incorrectly.

Tried rebooting?

[rapid merlin]

hello

[marble lava]

the point im making is i cant say that my believe is obvious and there isnt room to question it, u are saying because its illegal there isnt room to quesiton

[tame axle]

yep

[sly zealot]

ok. so what os/kernel?

[weak rampart]

funny (not so) thing about this is it doesn't matter what you think, it's going to continue

[frail stag]

Well to me yes, but to someone who would want to avoid it no, and to someone who may be susceptible to it no, but in the end I do wanna see phishing emails and stuff like that, I find it fun to look at all the types of phishing emails lmao

[sick lance]

Delete and re-create?

[marble lava]

yeah? what does that have to do with anything

people break laws no matter what u do it will happen

[weak rampart]

well why are we discussing this

[weak rampart]

yea

evil world we live in right

[marble lava]

because u tried to catagorize tor behavior to be as bleak as its just a bunch of people doing wrong things for no moral reason

[sly zealot]

that's your personal choice. OPSEC is an general element.

[marble lava]

what im saying is there are some moral reasons behind the behavior that is done on tor

[weak rampart]

didn't say everyone who uses tor does these things

[tame axle]

rebooted it again it works

[marble lava]

no but u implied that there is some set in stone line where once things become illegal they also become immoral

[sick lance]

See, and you didn't even need anyone in dm's to fix it

[tame axle]

yh

[marble lava]

i dont think thats fair to say, ur letting the government tell u what is just

use ur own reasoning and come to ur own conclusions

[weak rampart]

yeah, Tor was created for moral reasons at first, ultimate privacy and anonymity.
But here is what happened: Ultimate privacy = criminal heaven

[marble lava]

yeah and heres what im saying criminal behavior isnt as obvious as its all immoral or unjustified

[sly zealot]

damn bro. don't tell me you didn't do it in the first place. 🙂

[tame axle]

its mostly honeypots

[weak rampart]

you know, there is a reason why everything that's illegal is illegal.

[tame axle]

i did but it did not work at first

[marble lava]

yeah and typically it isnt as simple as "we should probably say murdering is bad"

[sly zealot]

ok.

[marble lava]

ur letting the government tell u how to think

[weak rampart]

we're going on a philosophy discussion, I think we should stop here

good talk man

[marble lava]

i think thats dangerous id rather u just think "is this behavior immoral or moral"

[weak rampart]

usually, illegal things are illegal because they are immoral

[tame axle]

what was the arguement even abt

i lowk wanna join in

[marble lava]

he catagorized csam and drug trafficking in the same catagory as being bad

i said thats not really fair and there is a moral reason why drug marketplaces have a moral reason to exist

[tame axle]

hmmm i see

[marble lava]

whereas csam isnt really defendable at all

[weak rampart]

what I said is they are both illegal, I didn't say they are equally bad

[sly zealot]

ok.

[stuck ridge]

Low cortisol chat

[sly zealot]

gn guys

[tame axle]

it depend on the drug too

[marble lava]

u imply that because both are illegal we probably shouldnt do both

[weak rampart]

drug marketplaces DO NOT have moral reasons to exist bro 😭
you're just defending drug usage atp

[marble lava]

im saying i can use my judgement and dont need to look at legistlation to know what i should do

[weak rampart]

obviously

[marble lava]

im against them dude.

[stuck ridge]

Why r yall dicuss abt drug😭

[marble lava]

but they have a moral framework that makes sense

its libertarian

[frail stag]

Well from someone who seems to bring up OPSEC alot, it shows that just name and date of birth can realistically only give u the opportunity to make a phishing attempt.

[tame axle]

im kinda on @weak rampart side rn

[weak rampart]

see that's that mindset some criminals use which sounds right I know but when do you draw the line?

[sick lance]

It can lead to more than that...

[marble lava]

heres what i would ask if a drug marketplace fasciliated the sell of drugs to someone who wanted to use them for himself are they wrong

[frail stag]

I give u permission to try out, good luck 😊

[bold rover]

Opsec

[sick lance]

It doesn't quite work like that.

[frail stag]

Then have a good day!

[weak rampart]

yes, because they are letting the person kill himself practically

[wild rose]

ok finished RE9. I liked it!

[tame axle]

cuz drugs are bad either way dont do drugs kids it bad for ur health

[bold rover]

@frail stag can I try ?

[sly zealot]

I wasted like 30-45mins on him, you too do now. gl

[frail stag]

Yes, I give u permission.

[sick lance]

Not everyone has the same opsec and threat model as you.

You're being edgy in fhinki you're unhackable.

[weak rampart]

I love these emojis 😭

[marble lava]

u look at ur own morality and draw the line for urself, my criticism is that ur looking towrads the government to draw the line for u i think its flawed because often time legislation is made in grey area cases

[bold rover]

Full permission?

[sick lance]

Where as you're ignorant and stupid.

[bold rover]

Like

[tame axle]

again it depends on the drug

[marble lava]

if i smoke weed or take molly that isnt gonna kill me

[bold rover]

No consequences right?

@frail stag

[frail stag]

No one is unhackable - but good luck with just my name and date of birth. I said I give u permission.

[marble lava]

if i had a marketplace that sold mushrooms LSD and molly would u be ok if thats all i sold on tor

[sick lance]

Mate.

[frail stag]

Not from me, but idk who else may punish u.

[tame axle]

idk much abt drugs

[sick lance]

I don't really give a fuck what is out there of you.

[marble lava]

u cant overdose on any of the drugs i listed

[frail stag]

Okay lol then have a good day.

[sick lance]

You're just an edgy kid on Discord who thinks they're cool arguing with everyone.

[frail stag]

I do not argue with anyone. So if u think that. Have a good day.

[tame axle]

see like imagine u find someone selling novichok or smth then its bad

[sick lance]

... You're arguing now 😂

[weak rampart]

I agree that not all laws by the government are perfect, BUT you shouldn't rely solely on your view of what's moral or not for what's good to do and what not. Example:
you see a dude punching another dude on the street. You think "that dude is using violence. Serves him right if I return him the favor." You go and punch him.

[frail stag]

Oh… so u think this is an argument…. I see….

[marble lava]

ok but are u saying its bad because the government says its bad or because in ur own moral judgement u say its bad

[sly zealot]

bro's vocab: my, name, dob, phishing, "🤣 " and hack.

[sick lance]

Somebody made a point.

You said it was wrong, and provided an arguement.

[marble lava]

i dont care if u want to say the sites themselves aer bad just dont say that's that way because the governmenet said so

[marble lava]

no i actually will do that gingus that actually happens a lot

[frail stag]

An argument for a conversation, not an argument to argue.

[tame axle]

anyways most of those drug selling sites u find on the dark web are fake or honeypots (i tested it for friend )

[sick lance]

So it's still an argument by definition.

Boy, were you born stupid, or did you work at it?

[frail stag]

We are having a conversation, not an argument, but we are making arguments in a conversation, but not to argue out of anger.

[marble lava]

thats actually an area where i dislike the governments overreach it denies us the ability to fight which is something inherent in a lot of human behavior

[sly zealot]

GOOD NIGHT GUYS.

[marble lava]

its not hard to find legit ones.

[frail stag]

If u are getting angry, then focus on calming urself down and focus on having a conversation

[weak rampart]

how do you know the dude getting beaten up didn't beat up a friend of his attacker the previous day? Your vision is not something you can trust and use to decide what's moral and what not

[tame axle]

GN mans sweet dream

sounds kinda gay

[sand trench]

welp as being slightly sick time for this shadow whadow to go sleep sloop to beep boop while going meep moop

[weak rampart]

good night

[marble lava]

heres an example dude if someone comes up while im with my wife and grabs her ass im not allowed per the governments view to hit the guy,i n my mind this is fucking dumb and id rather just punch the dude and take the risk of jail time

theres an area where i would challenge what the government says is immoral behavior

[silver sky]

One punch can kill. Not worth it

[marble lava]

i get it i still would take that risk its about respect

[tame axle]

now what if ur wife liked that ?

[marble lava]

then he can have her im gone

[echo sentinel]

I see #general has only high-quality discussions

[tame axle]

type shi

[weak rampart]

okay, that example however doesn't connect with reality. Most of the people that crucified Jesus Christ were thinking they are doing something good because they thought he was a criminal and deserved death

[marble lava]

its about respect dude violence is meant to correct for disrespect so i think the government got it wrong to say that im not justified to hit somoene for touching my wife

[silver sky]

What else would be discussed in general. Internet tough guy behaviour only here

[tame axle]

im supossed to be doing a room but ts lowk fun

[frail stag]

So ur logic = Man Okay to cheat on wife, Wife not okay to cheat on man

[marble lava]

ur butchering what im saying

again.

[weak rampart]

they thought what they did was right, judging by their personal vision, however that didn't reflect reality

[frail stag]

That’s what it sounds like lol

[echo sentinel]

Idk, some hacking or funny cat memes and not "What would you do if sm1 slapped your wife"

[tame axle]

thats not what he said

[sly zealot]

Counter_Hacking_GOD

[frail stag]

He was at 1:00am

[marble lava]

i just said i would risk jail time to protect my wifes honor and maintain respect it sounds like perhaps im willing to go to great lengths for her moreso than ur giving credit for

[sick lance]

Makes a nice change from anime.

[silver sky]

Those who shout about violence have very rarely seen true violence

[marble lava]

hes upset because i said i udnerstand why bill gates cheated on his wife

[marble lava]

for sure little guy

[weak rampart]

we were having a discussion about the dark web and what's legal or not

[bold rover]

Now that's a problem, if you snitch, i might get in trouble, can't trust people these days

[tame axle]

ts the highlight of my day

[echo sentinel]

That sounds better ngl

[silver sky]

[tame axle]

lowk just happy to be here

[frail stag]

I’m saying I’m not gonna snitch - I’m saying if they catch u without me snitching then idk what to say lmao

[loud marlin]

the little guy 🙂

[weak rampart]

yeah it is now somehow a talk about would you date bill gates or grab his wife's you-know-what

[sick lance]

Wides calf muscle would squash you. 😂

[marble lava]

its an example of a law i disagree with

[tame axle]

a man who thinks all the time ahh statement

[marble lava]

50 mg of anadrol would change his tone

[weak rampart]

you can't make your own law

you live in society

[echo sentinel]

The chain of thought here is something I'd wish to understand

[marble lava]

i can im doing it in real time and taking a risk for doing so

[bold rover]

Naa, under waterboarding, everyone snitches, even if they didn't get caught by the Florida police
-# btw ass editing, work on it

[weak rampart]

"ipad case or double it and give it to the next person"

[echo sentinel]

Then become a politican and change it lol

[tame axle]

he prolly thinks he mr robot or smth

[marble lava]

no because i dont want to sell my soul

[echo sentinel]

Mustard

[weak rampart]

[marble lava]

i also dont care enough to change it id rather just risk myself when i think i should and live my life

[echo sentinel]

Every edgy teen had a phase of "fuck the law" type shit

[frail stag]

I’m saying that whatever u do, could get saved in records - just because I don’t snitch - doesn’t mean other ppl will be looking behind the scenes looking at stuff that gets saved 🤷🏽‍♂️

[marble lava]

im a bit beyond that dude

[weak rampart]

can't relate uncle

[silver sky]

I am a little guy just look.

[marble lava]

ur acting like i disregard every law for the sake of rebeling

[weak rampart]

I love airsoft

[tame axle]

can we just end ts and start smth new cuz drugs are bad n=and bad means bad i only trust the drugs the pharmacy gives me thats all

[echo sentinel]

That ain't airsoft...

[marble lava]

35% body fat isnt gonna save u buddy

[loud marlin]

smaller version of dinosaur =/

[weak rampart]

😭

my bad

[loud marlin]

it will... fat is energy in big time

[sly zealot]

@frail stag Counter_Hacking_GOD

[loud marlin]

when you waste shugars and so in body, fat start to be used as energy reserve

[marble lava]

weird how weight cutting exists in the ufc if fat is so useful

[marble lava]

which also taxes your speed and cardiovasuclar ccapabilities

[frail stag]

I’m not clicking that

[weak rampart]

okay good night to everyone from me, I'm out

[loud marlin]

ufc is short time fights that does not need fat. fat is used as last optin as energy

[echo sentinel]

good night

[marble lava]

i read what u said

i interpreted what u said

[tame axle]

what time is it for u ?

[empty sinew]

can somone please text me

[marble lava]

and i want to bang my head into a wall after having read what u said

[weak rampart]

1:37 am

[echo sentinel]

No, ask us here

[tame axle]

11 40 pm for me

[silver sky]

I suggest you do that. It's not like you've got brain cells to lose.

[weak rampart]

okay that was 😭

[marble lava]

that fat must be messing with ur synapses

[loud marlin]

cutting fat and replace with muscle is for short time fights. for army and so fat is ok for long hours/days/weeks and so when energy is needed

[tame axle]

how old are you man u sound stupid ngl no offense

[marble lava]

might want to cut abour 30lbs before attempting to do a taxing behavior like fighting

[silver sky]

Come up with something creative. The fat jokes are boring

[marble lava]

no need to dude it clearly gets to u

[weak rampart]

can't y'all discuss something hacking related maybe or I don't know, why does it turn to hatred every time

[loud marlin]

anyway... back to fixing printer =/

[tame axle]

exactly

[weak rampart]

I wish you luck

[echo sentinel]

'cause they are some people who's egos get hurt whenever someone disagrees with them

[marble lava]

dude is the one that came at me i wouldve love to

[tame axle]

lets talk abt how we all started learning abt hacking

rainbows and sunshine type shi

[weak rampart]

no offense but people like you are the reason the world is going to end very soon

[echo sentinel]

Yeah sunshines

It was so nice today

[weak rampart]

"he striked me with nuclear weapon first"

[echo sentinel]

17 degrees

[tame axle]

nah not in scotland i only saw the sun three times for the whole year

[marble lava]

ur not as smart as u think u are

[echo sentinel]

Oh, that's bad

I'm glad 'cause there was like -20 last week lol

[weak rampart]

not trying to be smart, just saying, don't answer with violence to violence

don't jump straight to fights

[marble lava]

and what im saying is ur logic for that is dumb

[weak rampart]

how so

[tame axle]

exactly u cant put out fire with fire

[marble lava]

becuase violence is human nature

people fight people protect their integrity its part of life

[echo sentinel]

Yeah, but violence doesn't have to be physical

[tame axle]

timmy tuff knucles over here

[marble lava]

to deny it is as dumb as writing off any innate human behavior

[marble lava]

why? for saying i would fight somoene for grabbing my wife?

[weak rampart]

it's more than human nature or whatever you want to call it, however I'm not discussing that as it would fall into the "sensitive" topics

(personal beliefs)

[marble lava]

my bad didnt know conflict was a sensitive topic

[weak rampart]

No, conflict is okay

[marble lava]

thats just what we were discussing

[tame axle]

yh you could also call the cops on the guy and get him a jail sentence for being creep instead of u punching him and u going to jail

[weak rampart]

I'm saying, we're not very different than animals if we just fight whoever we don't like or disagree with

[frail stag]

Nice try

[marble lava]

ok so i could call another man to handle my problem?

im sure ur wife will really respect u for doing that!

[loud marlin]

defending is not initial violence.

[echo sentinel]

You don't have to punch someone to handle a problem

[tame axle]

how old is this guy

[marble lava]

yes but what im saying is in court my punch would be deemed to be excessive

im saying thats dumb and its appropriate

[marble lava]

if the problem is grabbing my wife yeah u do

[tame axle]

sorry solid

[weak rampart]

"do to others what you want them doing to you"

hits hard

dunno

[tame axle]

i clicked it twice

[marble lava]

yea and that would break great but the issue is people dont do that

[loud marlin]

then i hope some wins jackpot and count me in 🙂

[marble lava]

so u then need to deal with the resuling conflict

[dark wolf]

do unto others as they do unto you

[frail stag]

He rly thinks ima click this lollll even if it’s safe, im not clicking it

[weak rampart]

what I'm trying to imply is humans are not animals, we're not made to just fight over everything like some bulls. The difference between us and animals is that we can think, we can talk and communicate.

I'd say shall we use that

[marble lava]

we are animals and yes we are made to fight over stuff like that

there is nothing to talk about if u grab my wife

[weak rampart]

Squid Game season 4 director

[dark wolf]

This is a hacking channel. Let’s talk about cyber

[echo sentinel]

Good idea

[marble lava]

ur acting as if there is ever a defensible reason to grab another mans woman

[dark wolf]

not philosophy. this isn’t TryPsychMe lol

[weak rampart]

😭

[weak rampart]

no there isn't

[echo sentinel]

TryHackMe, then TryDateME and now TryPsychMe lol? Hella lot of startups here

[tame axle]

ur applying ur logic only on that example

[weak rampart]

TRYDATEME 😭

[frail stag]

Did u see that general, they tried to get me to click these links - lollll

[dark wolf]

yeah

[marble lava]

then understand thath uman behavior is going to involve conflict at some points

[silver sky]

You know, this topic is boring now

Move on

[marble lava]

and that is 1 of the points where u need to be willing to defend your family

[tame axle]

can we talk abt smth intresting

[weak rampart]

it is, at least from one side, it's your choice however how you'd respond

[echo sentinel]

You must be new here lol

[frail stag]

I’m sending them in photos so no one accidentally clicks on them as well

[dark wolf]

i have him blocked since the day he joined

[weak rampart]

I am yes

[marble lava]

it is and the response iw ill take is not talking about it

[echo sentinel]

That muffin guy lol?

[dark wolf]

yea

[marble lava]

he got upset after i rejected his advances

[wild rose]

I call him cupcake

[weak rampart]

who's the muffin guy

[silver sky]

Frankly, I don't think anyone would approach you

[weak rampart]

oh

[hard ravine]

sup wide

[tame axle]

who ?/

[marble lava]

dont speak unless spoken to fat boy

[weak rampart]

biological woman only

his username appears to be muffin

[silver sky]

Sup

[echo sentinel]

Pretty much, one of the members (named Math) wanted to find a partern for Shiro and got a TryDateMe domain - and then the joke just went on and we were laughing that THM took the idea when doing the team matching part

[hard ravine]

sounds about right lol

[weak rampart]

TryDateMe 😭

[echo sentinel]

I hope I didn't miss any imporant details lol

[hard ravine]

He owns the domain LOL

[dark wolf]

With the new certs they wanna become TryBankruptMe

[echo sentinel]

Yeah, but I think he took down the site

[tame axle]

he is prolly a kid "trying to save the world from the invisble hand" by guessing his neighbours wifi password

[hard ravine]

Hows the group @echo sentinel ? any new updates ?

[weak rampart]

hold on i forgot I was going to sleep

goodnight this time fr

[echo sentinel]

I mean, some new ones will probs be more advanced

[hard ravine]

he is still working on the site last i checked , i think he was done with the database

[tame axle]

bye mans gn

[dark wolf]

i would hope so

[weak rampart]

gn

[echo sentinel]

We're just chilling mostly - had some new faces and hosted amongus night where shiro got blunt drunk with wine on VC lol

[echo sentinel]

Really? And I thought he gave up after not wanting to get sued by THM

[silver sky]

Can't sue him for that 😂

[hard ravine]

Sounds fun , tell them i said Hi

[tame axle]

the Resident evil game is so good

[hard ravine]

THM cant do anything about it LOL

[echo sentinel]

Do y'all really have to? I'm too poor to buy and I wanna play it so much

[echo sentinel]

Ik, I think there was something else about it but idk

Alr, trydateme is still up lol

[wild rose]

yeah I just beat RE9 30 mins ago.

[tame axle]

just wait for fitgirlrepacks

[echo sentinel]

Yeah, just like with RE4R lol?

[tame axle]

whats that abt ?

[bold rover]

Be careful, they have ip loggers hidden in them

[echo sentinel]

A little joke we've had here

[hard ravine]

Resident Evil Requiem Denuva has already been cracked by Kirigiri btw , so its not gonna take long to show up on those websites

[echo sentinel]

Check like 2 messages above from me

[tame axle]

@marble lava left it was fun to ragebait him

[acoustic tangle]

Hi guys

[echo sentinel]

Wasn't it like Denuvo bypass with some VM?

[hard ravine]

Hello mate

[tame axle]

sup

[acoustic tangle]

How are you

[echo sentinel]

'cause I think HL and Black myth were "cracked" similarly

[hard ravine]

I dont think you can bypass denuvo with VM 🤔

[acoustic tangle]

How are you

[bold rover]

You new, can you teach me

https://tenor.com/view/adorable-pleading-eyes-anime-crying-gif-22150014

[tame axle]

im excited for the next blackmyth game

[hard ravine]

Ah nothing much , been hella busy . . . You ?

[tame axle]

teach what ?

[echo sentinel]

There was smth like this - hold on imma find you a link to the prelection

[bold rover]

Hacking

[acoustic tangle]

Just chilling and playing games

[tame axle]

ahh ive been doing it since i was 8 so for abt 6 yrs now how can i help

[bold rover]

Cool, what can you teach me

[echo sentinel]

https://momo5502.com/posts/2025-10-03-reverse-engineering-denuvo-in-hogwarts-legacy/

From what I recall it was just using some type of hypervisor to do a bypass, but it was pretty fragile

[tame axle]

idk

[bold rover]

Ok, teach me, how to crack argon2id hash

https://tenor.com/view/crying-sad-gif-11098584

[hard ravine]

55mins . . . i aint watching all that

[bold rover]

Take enough time to google it, @tame axle , it's fine

I'm waiting

[echo sentinel]

Then if you search his user you can find a reddit thread where he kinda explained how it works

[tame axle]

i have kn idea what argontoid is so yh

[bold rover]

Lol, keep studying then

[tame axle]

im studying for sec+ dawg

[bold rover]

https://tenor.com/view/velzarii-velzarii-vt-velzarii-vtuber-vtuber-envtuber-gif-14437673943388898455

[bold rover]

Why, 6 years wasn't enough?

[tame axle]

i was 8 eight and im 14 now

so

im still kinda dumb

[bold rover]

Have fun

Nice meeting

また会おうね

[tame axle]

why do u talk like a npc

[bold rover]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-king-gif-3727733911079342393

[tame axle]

u tryna ragebait cuz its working for some reason

[bold rover]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-girl-head-pat-headpat-anime-gif-15491115994804690187

Love you too

[tame axle]

what are you even abt

😭

everyone left

ima go learn

bye

[echo sentinel]

Nah, we're still here

[echo sentinel]

Good

[tame axle]

i feel violated after the argon2id question

[stuck ridge]

Lower your cortisol level , chat

[tame axle]

not enough send smth better

mommy asmr helps with cortisol trust me

[timid orbit]

My stress actively increasing as I’m watching that…..

[stuck ridge]

Welp idk, i love nature

[tame axle]

ok i better get some work done bye guys

can someone give me a spotifyplaylist i lost my acc

[bold rover]

https://tenor.com/view/job-application-jumpscare-atal-gif-10963426795696529755

[tame axle]

woah tnot the j word

[bold rover]

Go study kiddo

Discord is a distraction

[teal lava]

hello, verification bot not working?

[bold rover]

Ya

[teal lava]

thx

[bold rover]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-ryo-yamada-thumbs-up-you-got-this-good-job-gif-8753681333261599328

[tame axle]

im trying to but i gota fast tommrow

[timid orbit]

Can I quit IT and go become a goat farmer in the alps?

[bold rover]

ثم نم

[bold rover]

Nice idea

I'll be a farmer

[stuck ridge]

Yes yes yes yes, i love nature

[timid orbit]

Wanna come farm with me

[bold rover]

https://tenor.com/view/stardew-valley-gif-3661809411062193395

[bold rover]

Ya

[tame axle]

how tf do u kn so many langs

[stuck ridge]

Apply a remote IT work and go for both

[bold rover]

Geh studieren

[stuck ridge]

Yes, i really want

[tame axle]

lowk ur a cool person

[bold rover]

https://tenor.com/view/velzarii-velzarii-vt-velzarii-vtuber-vtuber-envtuber-gif-14437673943388898455

[tame axle]

u need to stop with these gifs make u look like a femboy

[bold rover]

Im a girl, I can do whatever i want

[tame axle]

oh

[timid orbit]

Sweet. We can watch anime, farm, and idk whatever else goat farmers do when they’re not farming goats

[tame axle]

farm what ?

[bold rover]

Breeding other goats i guess, i don't know

[timid orbit]

Goats

Duh

[tame axle]

yall own a farm ?

[timid orbit]

Going to. In the alps

[bold rover]

In the future

[tame axle]

so yall kn each other ?

[bold rover]

Ya he's my husband

-# in the future

Wow, something flashed

[timid orbit]

How old you again? If it’s under 18 may have to rethink that lol

[bold rover]

20, don't worry

[timid orbit]

I’m 23 we good

[bold rover]

I'm not gonna put you in jail

And he's muted

Lol

Time to sleep

[dark wolf]

who is muted?

[bold rover]

New kid

@tame axle

[timid orbit]

Gn

[dark wolf]

oh.. i was hoping you were going to mention something made with flour

night shadow

[dark wolf]

[frail stag]

I just passed in my exam for the online data analyst!!!! It’s gonna be graded nowwww

Will wait now for a couple days, in the meantime ima be applying for the THM content-creator

[frail stag]

I’m planning on doing the “cybersecurity careers” room for the review? Think it’s a good idea

Or does any mod or any staff suggest I should do Wich room for the application?

[timid orbit]

Congrats! Not sure what that test is but sounds hard

[echo sentinel]

Nice good luck with that

I wonder If I should apply too

[frail stag]

Nahhhh it’s not hard at all ahahahah

[echo sentinel]

But I'm a reddit ambassador still lol

[dark wolf]

You would make great content. do you go on reddit? lol

[frail stag]

I’m basically just verifying the data that shows up from users when they search a specific location and making that data more accurate for users

So like I asses everything LIKE EVERYTHING

[wild rose]

whatever is the easiest you can talk about. It could be OSI model to Kuberoasting. The sky's the limit.

[echo sentinel]

I mean, if I didn't I probably wouldn't be an ambassador there lolz

[timid orbit]

I could never. I’d get bored and lose focus then not touch it for months or years

[frail stag]

like address, pin location, relevance and all that stuff - and I see everything to ensure it’s all correct

[frail stag]

Lolll it’s all good ahahaha, it’s very analytical

But I like analytics

Hopefully it can be good for just gaining good practice for noticing small details

Especially as a cybersecurity analyst

[dark wolf]

yeah, new guy got perm muted

[wild rose]

which 1? They were all annoying.

[dark wolf]

The one with the illegible handle

said the r word and found out

[atomic nacelle]

do all thm rooms use rockme.txt to crack paswords

[dark wolf]

no

most are not brute at all anyway

a few do though

[atomic nacelle]

ik usually rockyou.txt is deafault of thm password cracking

they dont expect u to have long wordlist

[wild rose]

ahhh well there was a lot that was said.

[dark wolf]

rockyou is 14 million passwords

[atomic nacelle]

cos its for educational traunug

[dark wolf]

that is long lol

[atomic nacelle]

im talking bout default kali one

not the yearly long ine

[timid orbit]

rockyou takes 15 years to brute force with

[dark wolf]

i use the /usr/share/wordlists/rockyou.txt

[dark wolf]

we need a quantum vm

and we can pay with quantum money

[echo sentinel]

Most use rockyou

[dark wolf]

and create a quantum rockyou

[atomic nacelle]

yea was gonna ask

[dark wolf]

lol

[atomic nacelle]

yea thats what i was wondering

[timid orbit]

The day I crack a password on a CTF is the day I get hired as a pen tester

[dark wolf]

the rooms i have done, most arent brute force

[loud marlin]

yes. THM is using rockyoou as general word list. if other is needed the will say in room/task

[frail stag]

So I just basically check if the business is open, matching the address with the address given, confirming the pin location w the coordinates, and also w the address, and also the name shown, and seeing if it’s like implicit or explicit - and also seeing if it’s navigational or not and also ensuring that I can assess it all from the viewport, user location and the location I’m assessing, and I do all those things to analyze and assess alot of things like relevance (navigational—>bad) name accuracy (excellent—>incorrect) address accuracy (excellent—>incorrect) pin accuracy (excellent—>incorrecr) - and then a comment that I add explaining what they should do to make it more accurate for any user searching up that specific thing, to make the data more accurate for users who search up on maps

[atomic nacelle]

yea thought so

[dark wolf]

But I've only done 556 rooms

[echo sentinel]

Though it's not explicitly specified like on HTB for example - I think there was one room where I've had to use fasttrack worldist but that's about it

[loud marlin]

also all thm things are fast to crack and so on. n room/task takes ages

[atomic nacelle]

thats alot im like in top3% of thm users

im 0xA

[timid orbit]

woah impressive

[atomic nacelle]

its not thm gotta get rid of u used accounts

[echo sentinel]

Yo, congrats

Finally Vanguard

[timid orbit]

im following you now 😈

[atomic nacelle]

how long u been doing it

[dark wolf]

thanks!! hit it about 20 hours ago

[timid orbit]

congrats!

[frail stag]

It may be boring to someone - but ngl as my first job in the IT sector/department, I am absolutely stoked to go from stocking shelves to cleaning bathrooms to holding a traffic sign to delivering pizzas, to doing uber delivery to now doing smth like this, I’m grateful I can start making money and get back on track

Even at my lowest point, I woke up this morning doubting myself a little bit, thinking I wasn’t gonna pass this exam and I was feeling doubtful, but I still got up and kept studying for this, bc ngl this is nowhere near anything cybersecurity and it’s a completely new topic for me, and I was getting anxious, but I kept studying and studying, snd now ima wait for my results 🥹🤞🏽

It’s only minimum wage - but that’s better than no income!

[timid orbit]

we all start somewhere

[dark wolf]

i went from making tacos to delivering pizza to jr sys admin to linux sys admin to php developer to network engineer

[frail stag]

Amazing, I love it

[dark wolf]

so glad i skiped help desk

[timid orbit]

i went from making tacos to delivering pizza to jr sys admin
TELL ME THE TRICKS

also why you not still a PHP engineer. them dudes makin BANK

https://tenor.com/view/ferrari-f50-ferrari-f50-supercar-super-car-gif-2411561343777772899

[frail stag]

My jobs in order are, super store (meat department) -> Tim Hortons -> traffic control -> Alexandra’s pizza -> Uber Delivery Driver -> hopefully an online data analytics

[echo sentinel]

Imma probs head to sleep - gn y'all

[frail stag]

The future awaits 🥹 hopefully for junior cybersecurity analyst

[dark wolf]

"I'm sorry ma'am but I do not believe that you possess the level of sophipstication nor intellecual capacity to own such a device as a Personal Computer, please pack it back up and return it. I hear that Brother released a lovely new like of typerwriters that you are most certainly used too. And with the savings you can afford a new sewing machine to boot. Your husband will be so proud of you."

I would not have lasted long

[frail stag]

I think General already has BANK

[timid orbit]

My jobs in order are: local restaurant → aircraft maintenance → airport baggage handler → airport refueler → L1 IT support

Lol

[dark wolf]

i dont have bank, but im in decent position. i wanna retire at 65

[frail stag]

Ur house looks rly nice i must say

[dark wolf]

SELECT id,name,residency,age,saying FROM canadian_sayings WHERE saying LIKE "%sorry%";

[wild rose]

I went from YouTube content creator doing covers of songs in a band -> afterschool program instructor, -> QA tester at Cisco -> Teaching Assistant at an AI startup -> soc analyst jr -> soc analyst tier 2 -> Soc engineer -> Cloud Security Architect.

[frail stag]

I wanna ask what where ur thoughts on the analyst position (will not change my opinion on it, I truly like analytical work)

[wild rose]

A whole lot of job hopping, but it was all fun to learn from all those positions.

[proud swift]

Hi everyone, am I the only one having problems with my VPN? I keep having to restart it, and sometimes the connection just doesn't work

[timid orbit]

friedwall?

wallfire?

carbonbarrier?

[dark wolf]

you get a wider range of knowledge

first 11 years as a network engineer i did firewall vpn linux built web automation voip, so may things

where im at now its very specific, we have 2k people in IT

lol

before we had 8

rofl

[timid orbit]

i wanna be a linux sysadmin 🙁 that sounds fun

[dark wolf]

jobs are different depending on the size of the company

[dark wolf]

it was fun building scripts to install spam filter servers

Memory Triggered.......................

[timid orbit]

i think i'd rather want to be an OT linux sysadmin now that you say that

[dark wolf]

It was 2003 and I had been working at Radio Shack a couple months because I had been laid off from my first IT job after 1.5 years cuz the company was going under..

[wild rose]

As a SOC Analyst you were many hats comprised of all the technologies you're using. SIEM, ERP, SOAR, AV, DLP, Firewalls, Proxy, VPN, Identity management, etc and the list goes on.

[dark wolf]

The guy calls me for a pre interview and asks when you do ps -as what is process id 1

and i said "init"

and he was like "OMG OMG

so i get hired and there is only 3 people at the company lol me, him the cto and hte ceo

[wild rose]

whoops wrong reply

[frail stag]

All good lol ik it’s for me

[dark wolf]

and they were running mysql for the databases for the emails and quarantine

[timid orbit]

that shit won't fly in the hiring process now 🤣

[dark wolf]

and it was root with no password for the login master db

ROFL

[timid orbit]

NAH

[frail stag]

Amazing, I love it, I wanna do analyst role as long as I can to get rly good at it

[timid orbit]

i hope you fixed that...

or at least set up a back up somewhere

[wild rose]

check out the soc analyst L1 pathway.

[dark wolf]

No, he didn't wanna fix it. i was only there for a year. 6 months in an office, then we moved into a house lol

[timid orbit]

is it good? i havn't done it yet

actually i prolly wont do it

[dark wolf]

i had a nice view from the house ... but the work sucked so i packed up and moved to vegas

[wild rose]

some SOCs just purely focus on continuous monitoring so eyes on glass eyeballing the SIEM 24/7/365.

[frail stag]

Yeah I am, I just currently have a school project I have to work on, I need to make 4 VM’s including 1 Kali vm - and I think u know where this is heading w that lollll but it’ll be fun ik how to do it - but I just have school work to do - it’s due March 13th

[timid orbit]

dang. was that your next job in vegas or did you just move on a whim

[dark wolf]

thats the job i left

they forced people to create new passwords without telling them and gave me the on call cell

so i quit sooon after and moved, because it was too expensive in san diego

[stuck ridge]

There was once time my brother beg me for my computer password, for "learning" on my computer when i go to extra classes. But heck nah, i didnt give him anything because i aint giving my laptop password to a person that almost doxxed my entire family

[dark wolf]

it was spam protection

i got a job as a spammer in vegas

[wild rose]

You just need to load 4 VMs?

[frail stag]

Amazing, I’d love to do that, just nonstop 24/7 monitoring, like I said I feel like a crackhead sometimes with the amount of focus I can put into 1 thing if I rly want 😭😭😭

[frail stag]

But that focus comes with “me absolutely forgetting time” 🤣🤣🤣

[timid orbit]

well i hope i dont run into that. after this position im likely to look for a sysadmin role. i'd like a linux one since yk i fkin hate windows lol but i dont wanna just do spam protection

[dark wolf]

yeah but this was in 2004

before gmail

[timid orbit]

true

[dark wolf]

lol

[wild rose]

https://klipy.com/gifs/spam-26

[timid orbit]

i was 1 year old back then haha

[frail stag]

It’s basically like hyperfocusing - the focusing is rly good - but I forget about other things where it’s questionable on how good it is - but the thing is if it’s smt I’m doing as a job - I guess that would be considered good

[wild rose]

But sometimes you just have to let go and do something else cuz you're going around in circles down a rabbit hole.

[stuck ridge]

I wasnt exits that time

[frail stag]

Ahhh I seeee

[timid orbit]

young blood

[dark wolf]

I got a head start on you

[stuck ridge]

😭

[wild rose]

Every time I get a call about my car's extended warranty I'm going to think of you...

[dark wolf]

I had nothing to do with that

this shady company bought CD's full of email addresses

this was just email marketing

[frail stag]

No I need to create 4 VM’s and create 1 Kali and I won’t explain everything we have to do with that - but essentially it was given to us on the 26th and it’s due till March 13th - so it’s something that’s a long enough timeframe to get a good amount of work done in the project - it’s a final project as well - so it’s a big one and alot of the marks will come from this

[dark wolf]

before the opt in days

[wild rose]

sounds ez pz

[frail stag]

I already have a Kali Linux vm and alot of VM’s - so ngl I think I’ll just use those - I’ll ask my professor if it’s okay and confirm w it 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[frail stag]

Cause alot of other students prolly delete them once they’re done w it - but I don’t

Keep it just in case I ever wanna use it for practicing and studying alongside with tryhackme

Bc I like tryhackme alongside my school - like deadass I don’t think just college would be enough for me

Like tryhackme’s labs are amazing

Like I need both college and tryhackme - for best studying and performance

[stuck ridge]

I still have a month of premium after finished my goal is complete jr pentester path, what should i do next?

[wild rose]

some people like to keep unpatched versions OSes that are vulnerable to certain exploits.

[timid orbit]

that's why i wait over a year to update my iphone

just like a week ago i updated from iOS 15 something to 26

[stuck ridge]

I never update my phone since bought, gonna update it soon

[timid orbit]

i only updated cuz i read about a no click RCE affecting iOS prior to 26 something

[wild rose]

That's the thing you can keep going down the red team path or try your hand at blue team or SecEng. It's whatever interests you.

[frail stag]

Wait who got muted again?

The muffin guy?

Or who

[stuck ridge]

Hum, i will countinoun with red team path

[wild rose]

my nephew jailbreaked his iphone and I'm like I'm proud of you kid.

[frail stag]

So atleast I don’t have to remember everything off the top of my head, but I do have this nice book to look at for when I’m adding comments and basically add like “4.3.2 status shown as permanent closure, therefore business/POI is closed or does not exist anymore”

So at the start I was actually worried

That I’d have to remember all of that off the top of my head

And then I felt relieved when I can use this for those 🤣🤣🤣

Imagine I had to remember al those little point dmeotions or explanations lollll

[dark wolf]

the more you see a code, the easier you will remember

[timid orbit]

may be easier to convert PDF to TXT and filter by results.

then you can extract images from PDFs using some archiving tool

knowing python also helps a lot, you can filter and categorize results into displayable charts

[frail stag]

Yessssir, hopefully they give a grace period of like 2-4 weeks - where my speed isn’t rly tracked

Cause I heard they have like a maximum 5 minutes per task

But hopefully I can get like maximum 10 minutes first 2-4 weeks

[timid orbit]

for a min wage job they better be lenient with you

[frail stag]

Wellll I think I can get 5 minutes done after working 2-4 weeks

Even if they offer me a promotion - I won’t take it

I have too much going on rn to study a new position 🤣🤣🤣

I alr studied this position alot lmaooo

I haven’t even started my final project

Or submitted my content-creator application

Because of me studying for this

So I’ll stick w this even if I get a promotion - even if it’s higher paying lol

[timid orbit]

Your choice and your career goals 🤷‍♂️ congrats tho hope it goes well

[boreal scarab]

How Europeans perceive Americans speaking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmmHoam7y5U

[timid orbit]

I was gonna ask wyg I saw you typing

You didn’t disappoint

[dark wolf]

https://giphy.com/gifs/crickets-uLy4Bo680hZxm

OSINT Challenge: Locate this 1x1px image. RGB(0,0,0) go

[boreal scarab]

DONE

[dark wolf]

Which pixel is it

ahhh i see it .

but yeah , where in the world is that

[boreal scarab]

Not in the middle, it's a little bit off to the right

[dark wolf]

Well at least the USA is USA'ing

we are tech leaders

hope it stays that way

[frail stag]

Dw abt me I’ll keep smoking lol

[marble lava]

then merab is gonna keep shootin double legs on u

https://tenor.com/view/merab-ufc-sean-o'malley-o'malley-mma-gif-13353992774142958914

[frail stag]

That’s the best response vid I can do to him lol