general

[quartz drum]

no

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-army-bocchi-fire-bocchi-gif-27380664

[timid orbit]

Do you see it now Mr Krabs?

[topaz steeple]

its okay, i relate

[frail zenith]

They why apologizing profusely

[quartz drum]

habit

[lethal niche]

You're doing it allrady you do not talk to girls

[keen grotto]

i saw it on my profile, thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @timid orbit (current: #278 - 37)

[quartz drum]

bad habits

[quartz drum]

try reversing the sentence

no wait

[frail zenith]

Just like dewz nuwts

[quartz drum]

yea actually both things happen at the same time

[quartz drum]

dudlu something is on your face

must be deez nutz

[frail zenith]

I noticed my auto correct now correcting dewz to deez

🙃

[quartz drum]

nice

[keen grotto]

now im wondering why was it removed from our profile page lol

[frail zenith]

Pls get a life

[quartz drum]

sometimes i wish i was normal

had friends

and people to talk to

then i remember i am not

[frail zenith]

Mee too

[lethal niche]

me tooo

[quartz drum]

i never will be

[topaz steeple]

damn maximus,you got that sad dawg in you

[quartz drum]

you know whats sadder

[frail zenith]

Don't

[topaz steeple]

deez nuts on your face

[frail zenith]

Don't

[lethal niche]

It is not possible

[frail zenith]

Don't

[quartz drum]

leaving college for home and you only get to listen to music for 3 minutes

[quartz drum]

thats the happy part

[frail zenith]

Fuck you

Deez nuts disease spreading in chat it's fucking contagious

[topaz steeple]

3 mins llike one song

[lethal niche]

dam

[topaz steeple]

just like deez nuts on your face

[quartz drum]

whenever i am leaving college i see men and women talking with eachother making new friends and then there is me sitting alone listening to music and thats all

[topaz steeple]

damn maximus this hits close to home

[quartz drum]

what hits you at your home are deez nutz

[frail zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/rainy-sans-sad-alone-undertale-gif-5967716

Dis you ?

[quartz drum]

nah thats

deeznutz

https://tenor.com/view/lofi-gif-14982051479652143382

[topaz steeple]

no wonder nobody wants to talk to you

[quartz drum]

this is me

[quartz drum]

thats why i said

i wish i was normal

[lethal niche]

you are built different

[topaz steeple]

its okay maximus,you just like me fr (derogatory)

[quartz drum]

there was someone i liked to talk to but they left and now are suffering from something they refuse to tell me and that makes me sad and make me feel left out

and then i realise

that no matter how much you try no matter how close youre to someone you will always be one button away from becoming strangers with memories again

[quartz drum]

blasphemy

[quartz drum]

i am built like a linux penguin

tux

[topaz steeple]

why let them leave first,when you can leave them first? (dont do this)

[lethal niche]

i have adht autism dyslexia and im happy

[quartz drum]

i never leave

but they let go

so i let go

[topaz steeple]

you finna start to

[quartz drum]

i always assume people dont wanna talk to me

gotta take the worst case scenario always

so i just dont talk to people

sometimes i do

[topaz steeple]

same pookie

[quartz drum]

but i remove them in the first hour of meeting

[quartz drum]

nice

i wish i was autistic but in an intelligent way

[timid orbit]

This is Elon Musk

[lethal niche]

i have the math one

[timid orbit]

I’m on mobile so I can’t figure out how to send the Tenor GIFs

[frail zenith]

Yo

Your chat just made @tame ember Delete his message

My internet died

[quartz drum]

https://tenor.com/view/yi-long-ma-hi-everyone-elon-elon-musk-hi-gif-11259469903522590947

[quartz drum]

my my

[quartz drum]

i like maths

i just cant do it

[frail zenith]

Fuck it

What tf wrong with discord

[lethal niche]

so why you like it

[frail zenith]

Is it on

Yep finally

[topaz steeple]

its a sign

[lethal niche]

Please keep it family-friendly,

[quartz drum]

becuz

i like studying about space and stuff

i just gave up on maths

[frail zenith]

Same shiz

[lethal niche]

yes but no it is based on phy

[boreal scarab]

@dusty tapir @sand trench What the fuck is with Swedish people and their VERY ODD tastebuds? The fuck?

[frail zenith]

Just found out the fermented shark ??

[tame ember]

Man. Stop. Or i will launch an icbm from my backyard on a random country

[frail zenith]

Pls

Do it

I am fed with the world

[boreal scarab]

That's iceland

[quartz drum]

please be pakistan

[tame ember]

Which country do you want

[lethal niche]

just to india baby

[tame ember]

To india?

[lethal niche]

yes

[feral whale]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-super-bowl-um-gif-12948140040660855689

[frail zenith]

All of em

[quartz drum]

i will find you and i will rub deez nutz all over your face

[tame ember]

India or pakistan(mods i didnt say any coumtrys name the chat first spelled a countrys name)

[tame ember]

You are from india right?

[quartz drum]

pakistan and some parts of india

[frail zenith]

*Antartica

I am penguin

[quartz drum]

we are better off without them

[quartz drum]

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-mountains-penguin-mountain-penguin-mountain-gif-17645682934259148439

[topaz steeple]

whoa whats going on

[tame ember]

The attack would be powerful enough to destroy the whole region so south asia is a bad choice

[quartz drum]

hmmmm drop bomb on yk

[feral whale]

people btw say germans are race car drivers

[tame ember]

Ik

[frail zenith]

You all know me from that steam user from antartica

I am him

[quartz drum]

german cars are good

i like volkswagen

[quartz drum]

das auto

[quartz drum]

waowie

[tame ember]

You wanna gng up and attack on that country?

[frail zenith]

Create one and remove it ?

[quartz drum]

ight anyways goodbye guys

[frail zenith]

I wanna gang up and destroy the world

[keen grotto]

do you guys not talk about cs in here

[frail zenith]

Man you all melting my homeland

[river garden]

not often

[frail zenith]

Yes

[tame ember]

Man shutcho mouth up then im not witch u

[river garden]

neither cysec

i saw that

[topaz steeple]

comp sci? cyber sec? counter strike?

[frail zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/team-lets-go-squad-penguin-gang-gif-26681488

Then I have to take action with my own hands

[keen grotto]

cyber sec

or anyt it related

[tame ember]

I saw nothinf also

[keen grotto]

i mean it’s a thm server

[frail zenith]

Are you justice system ?

[tame ember]

Btw im targeting that one country(cia bro im just joking)

[river garden]

customer service

[gritty bane]

i love counter strike

my favorite map is actually inferno

some might think of me as crazy for that

but

i like inferno

[river garden]

cs burger king specifically

[topaz steeple]

yes ofc, we like seeing windows go down

[topaz steeple]

crazy

[frail zenith]

I thought from cs he meant COMPUTER SCIENCE 😭

@river garden why you tweaking

[keen grotto]

:”(

[tame ember]

Both

Cybersec and computer science

[keen grotto]

so what brought everyone to thm

[tame ember]

Tweaky tweaky little baby

[frail zenith]

50% premium discount on black friday

[river garden]

some dude throwing claude at a ctf on yt

[feral whale]

claude used walkthroughs

[keen grotto]

ooo i’m jealous, i had to get mine when there was no discount

[topaz steeple]

boredom

[echo sentinel]

Idk, it just happened

[feral whale]

it even said the name of one it used

[river garden]

used as in is in training data? not so sure

not super likely based on my exp working with it

[feral whale]

claude can search the web buddy

[keen grotto]

wow

[river garden]

...

wow bro

[gritty bane]

wwhat

are you actually an inferno hater

[tame ember]

So...ethical hacking ain possible on windows seven?

[gritty bane]

in the big 26

[river garden]

if u enable it yeah

[keen grotto]

fair enough

[feral whale]

its enabled by default

and claude even said the walkthoughs name

[topaz steeple]

not a hater, i have no enemies

[river garden]

you can turn it off either case

[feral whale]

in that video

[river garden]

also i did most with claude code

ok whatever

[tame ember]

Jackling...a nice name.

[topaz steeple]

then AOC happened and it was fun

[tame ember]

.

[crimson flax]

guys i am new here how can i start learn hack

[feral whale]

bro thats not how u start if u wanna sound professional

most was done by claude

lmao

[tame ember]

You can heck by completing thm walkthroughs

Beginner ones

[keen grotto]

i had my eyes on thm for a while but i was already on htb so i didn’t sub to thm until in mid year

[crimson flax]

where

[dusty tapir]

Noone here eats that

[gritty bane]

you do

[keen grotto]

but i should’ve waited for black friday sale

[tame ember]

Tryhackme website

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[river garden]

#1 dont care; this is friggin thm discord

[gritty bane]

the counter terrorists are our enemies

[sand trench]

no comment on the surströming
malört is fine though

[gritty bane]

LETS KILL THEM ALL, and then we go home 👍

[topaz steeple]

no i dont

[crimson flax]

its free

[topaz steeple]

except AI

[river garden]

#2 we were talking about exp w/ claude; I specified claude code

to be more precise

[dusty tapir]

Its just to prank guillable foringers

[gritty bane]

im gonna tell chatgpt you said that

[river garden]

because you rambled about claude web

[tame ember]

Guys! Isnt hecking possible in windowss 7????

[crimson flax]

any hacker here pro

[tame ember]

Yesp

[boreal scarab]

four fingers? lol

[topaz steeple]

i aint scared of clankers

[boreal scarab]

foreigners*

[gritty bane]

sure it is

[crimson flax]

what you can do

[tame ember]

Nah we are all clankers

[gritty bane]

install virtualbox and download a kali vdi

[dusty tapir]

Fis im on mobiles

[gritty bane]

there you go

[tame ember]

I can heck

[river garden]

i daily vista all day everyday

[boreal scarab]

I'm on a chair.

[keen grotto]

no but i realise ur profile has the same concept as mine

[tame ember]

Im genuine bro

[crimson flax]

bro i want to hack divices like watch dogs 🥹

[topaz steeple]

man i miss vista

[gritty bane]

hi genuine nice to meet you

[timid orbit]

Don’t do it! 🪂

[gritty bane]

ever considered IoT hacking?

[tame ember]

Fr bro?

[feral whale]

do guys still goon to mia

[crimson flax]

yes sir

[tame ember]

Good job

Good luck om your journey

[crimson flax]

thank you

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @tame ember (current: #791 - 9)

[tame ember]

What do you want to learn

[tame ember]

Thank you clanker!!!!!!!

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/pewdiepie-chair-399-but-can-you-do-this-gif-10722056

[tame ember]

Man...shut up

[crimson flax]

ummmm.... maybe any thing that related to divaces hack network maybe

[gritty bane]

there is no need to be so hostile you piece of shit

dont insult me

[tame ember]

Sorry majesty

[topaz steeple]

to hack network,you must know the blood of networks

[frail zenith]

Me

[gritty bane]

??? they are not creatures? how can they bleed?

[feral whale]

princess would have been diabolical

[topaz steeple]

not yet

[tame ember]

Shutcho bro

[frail zenith]

I can hack any site with html

[crimson flax]

what

[half relic]

Lol

[gritty bane]

yeah html is the hacker programming language

so

its essential for any pro hackers like us

[tame ember]

I can heck any app with washing Machine

[gritty bane]

this dude thinks he's slick

[tame ember]

Wha da

[half relic]

He just got muted for thr same word I did

[gritty bane]

you can get muted for that?

for saying

[tame ember]

Wha da

[topaz steeple]

legit has HUGE security

[tame ember]

Lol

[river garden]

gamba?

[half relic]

I got muted

When I said that

[tame ember]

Oh hes gone

[river garden]

shrimp?

[tame ember]

majesty shit is gone

[quartz drum]

Nah

[tame ember]

Atoon toto

[feral whale]

damn he has venclapmeyap

[river garden]

is he a shrimp

[tame ember]

Yeah majesty if your seeing this your a piece of ahit you know?

[tame ember]

What is cs

[frail zenith]

How do you see the red thingy

[river garden]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-attack-magic-krill-cursed-gif-10775215166482771225

[half relic]

Computer science?

[tame ember]

Nah what is that. Never heard of it

[river garden]

not being colorblind

[frail zenith]

It's not visible in my app

[river garden]

he must be hexlor

leet

[tame ember]

You have extensioms?

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[frail zenith]

Nope

[distant robin]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-spit-drink-gif-15962434655473821932

[gritty bane]

GAAAAAAH

https://tenor.com/view/stantwt-chained-up-chained-gif-67266779391248431

[tame ember]

Real

[river garden]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-simple-its-shrimple-gif-25735431

[tame ember]

No one said no negative things about you btw my majesty

[topaz steeple]

chat logger isnt that violations of discord tos

[tame ember]

Real

[feral whale]

it is

[frail zenith]

What

Did

I do

[river garden]

no he is just super fast with screenshotting

[tame ember]

Using chat logger

[distant robin]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hi-hy-hey-gif-8520159980767013609

[feral whale]

u using illegal military grade logging software

[river garden]

got the cs reflexes

[topaz steeple]

red text usually is deleted text,aint it?

[frail zenith]

Real shit

[tame ember]

Every single message

[distant robin]

Yes

[gritty bane]

hi valkyrie

[dusty tapir]

@boreal scarab bruuuuu you keep taggin me here me thinkin its the cool kids club x.x

[gritty bane]

HI VALKYRIE

I SAID HGI

HI

[tame ember]

Lol

[gritty bane]

HELLLOOOO?

[tame ember]

That guy blocked ya i think

His pfp is weird also

He prolly on something

[dusty tapir]

<-- boomer who canuse discord lmaot

[topaz steeple]

hey valkyrie,wsg

[distant robin]

I saw. Im deaf, not blind

[gritty bane]

whats draf

[frail zenith]

Who can't hear

[tame ember]

Bro what is your wpm? Genuinly bro

[distant robin]

Stupid mobile autocorrect 😱

[feral whale]

yo guys did u see the reel about the guy playing valorant with his feet?

dude has a lower rank than me

[frail zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/dwarf-chad-chad-dwarf-gif-27635881

[topaz steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-surprise-mf-can't-prove-it-gif-7408854170742055240

[long lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-everything-green-bitcoin-rdbtc-gif-16286303713176021693

[distant robin]

I’m deaf, not blind 🤨

[gritty bane]

WAIT SO

if you are deaf then i just need to yell louder

cause like

even deaf ppl can hear gunshots or whatever right

BEETHOVEN WAS DEAF SEEE

[tame ember]

Bro what is your wpm!!!

[gritty bane]

he played music by only listening to the vibrations

[feral whale]

https://tenor.com/view/тамирлох-gif-26249056

[distant robin]

That’s not gonna help, I’m 80% deaf

[gritty bane]

155

[tame ember]

Spammer dawg

[gritty bane]

20% remaining still

[tame ember]

Oh ma

[distant robin]

I only lipread 🤣

[tame ember]

Someone in this chat

[distant robin]

And I don’t wear my hearing aid most of the time anyway

[feral whale]

like i wan't a pig

[gritty bane]

i had a deaf classmate once

[feral whale]

look how adorable

[gritty bane]

dude was legit the funniest dude i knew

no filter

[distant robin]

Blank needs to bugger off

[feral whale]

could he talk?

[gritty bane]

we had to communicate in made up sign language and made up words out of signs 😂

[gritty bane]

ye but like

[tame ember]

This guy has some beef wiht me i dont even know

[feral whale]

deaf or mute?

[gritty bane]

he doesnt know what to say ig

but

his speaking works

hard to explain

[distant robin]

Yeah we deaf people have no filter and straight to the point

[gritty bane]

he can speak but he does not know what sounds to make

[feral whale]

ahhhh

[gritty bane]

yall the best frr

[distant robin]

Not all of them do but I do. My key worker told me today that I apparently speak very well 😳

[tame ember]

Atoon toto...i nice name i see. Why is it like that?

The xhat got dead outta nowhere like dawg

[distant robin]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-piss-off-chef-master-chef-hells-kitchen-gif-10154743

[feral whale]

well thats crazy

crazy in positive

[tame ember]

Man you blocked me so keep it bloxked dont click the cross dump piece of idk

Thas the solution

[feral whale]

i love ai

i had a error thought it fixxed it

[distant robin]

Yeah I do have a speech impediment but it mostly gets mistaken for me being someone that doesn’t speak English

[feral whale]

when i checked the code

[tame ember]

"I love ai" = "i love clanker"

[feral whale]

it commented it out

[odd knoll]

bad day

[feral whale]

like it was more of a joke

[distant robin]

You?

[tame ember]

"Like ti was morw of a joke" = "Im wrong but i cant say it"

[distant robin]

I can still see you and you’re annoying AF

[gritty bane]

i dont know

[tame ember]

I cant do anything about it anyways so...shut up

[gritty bane]

my mother gtave it to me in 2013 i have stuck with it ever since then

[feral whale]

just read what i typed after it

[topaz steeple]

hey valkyrie,you making more art? i really liked what you created

[tame ember]

Dang thas lit a memory

A big one

[distant robin]

Awe thank you, I want to once I’m settled in the new place.

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @topaz steeple (current: #300 - 34)

[gritty bane]

are you enrolled in special needs classes

i am curious i dont mean to insult or anything

[distant robin]

Who? Me?

[gritty bane]

the reply was not aimed at you so no

[tame ember]

I didnt understand what you said peasant

[topaz steeple]

looking forward to it , gives me some motivation to start again as well

[gritty bane]

is that a yes

[distant robin]

Oh my bad, I just woke up from a nap and can barely see without my glasses

[gritty bane]

"im not blind" she says

[distant robin]

I want to do pottery again too, I miss it.

[tame ember]

You from europe?

[topaz steeple]

lets go!! share some if you feel comfy.

[distant robin]

Haha I’m much older than you

[half relic]

i used to paint but nothing i made seems very creative

[gritty bane]

how old are you again

you cant be older than me, i am 200 years old.......

[tame ember]

Unc stage final boss

[distant robin]

64

[gritty bane]

????

are you seirous

shiiii i found someone older than vigor aint no way

[distant robin]

Nah, switch the numbers around

[gritty bane]

67?

oh shit right thats dead i cant say that anymore

46

[distant robin]

I’m younger than Vigor and older than Math

[gritty bane]

ok 46 is not bad you are still young

[half relic]

that's how i feel and i'm 44

[gritty bane]

do the old people of thm have their own gathering or something

[tame ember]

Just take an L bro

[distant robin]

Nope, 47 in April

[half relic]

it feels like i am younger than when i would meet people my age when i was like 15

[distant robin]

Yes we do

[half relic]

so idk

[tame ember]

That time was 4 seconss ago righ?

[gritty bane]

i dont think i will be in thm by the time i even reach 19 😂

[half relic]

i probably still look that old to 15 year olds

[gritty bane]

i guess i will not see the

old people gatherin

[half relic]

seems like it

[tame ember]

Bye chat

[half relic]

time passes really fast at some point

[gritty bane]

dont worry though il lcontinue your legacy once i turn like 28 or something ill start spreading wisdom

if i am alive

[distant robin]

Yes it does

[gritty bane]

there was a time when i wished i was 18 just so i could enjoy life freely

[tame ember]

Shitty no one cares man getcho..okay crachin out get ouuut

[gritty bane]

probably nothing to you but that time has passed and it does not feel that long ago 😂

[boreal scarab]

I sorry!

I was in here already, so thought I'd ping you here lol

[distant robin]

Oh yeah, the 40s are for sissies. Everything hurts

[feral whale]

dude whenever i see u somebody says "why are u pinging me"

[gritty bane]

sylvester stalone is like 80 and he looks like he is in his mid 40s

[distant robin]

Yup he works out a lot and keeps fit

[half relic]

i don't know how people do that

[gritty bane]

why cant you

[distant robin]

Health issues

[boreal scarab]

Like the bitch @misty zealot ?

[half relic]

its not my full time job to do that

[gritty bane]

ok no problem

go for a walk 30 minutes a day

not possible?

[feral whale]

i do not condone to such phrasing

[distant robin]

Yup I plan to do that when I move

[misty zealot]

Why ping me here of all places

[half relic]

that won't make you look like syvester stalone

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-mug-best-boss-boss-gif-13600382

[distant robin]

Because he loves you

[gritty bane]

if you are not able to have a stable workout regimen then just walking can be more than enough for some ppl

[gritty bane]

yeah because you will never be sylvester stallone

[half relic]

lol

[gritty bane]

there is only one of him that will have graced this earth, THERE WILL NEVER BE A SYLVESTER STALLONE REMASTER!

[distant robin]

Yeah I also plan to join the gym 2 days a week, light weight training and stuff you know?

[gritty bane]

very good

[half relic]

that's a good idea

[gritty bane]

i also have a hereditary disease that i will not get into here that kinda also makse it hard for me to train but

i still try to make it work

you should consult a fitness adviser and a doctor to get something that works for you

my mistake was going in blind 😂

[distant robin]

Why would we want to be him? I’m me and I’m crazy AF

[half relic]

i don't like driing anywhere in the winter though

well that's what the comparrison was

I don't really want to look like a dude anyway personally

[distant robin]

Yup I know my limits so I stick to what I can and can’t do

[half relic]

even if i was one i don't think i would want to look like sylvester stallone

that

s too much

[distant robin]

It’s only if you eat right and not bulk up like body builders, you’ll be fine. I used to bench 120kg at the gym years ago and it burnt off fat quicker but minima muscle tone so it still looked good as a woman

[gritty bane]

120kg what the fuck

[half relic]

that's true it

s probably not possible anyway

[gritty bane]

are you some sort of behemoth wtf do you mean 120 😂

[distant robin]

My diet is keto - high protein and low carb

[half relic]

i like potatoes too much for that

[timid prism]

Please transfer

[distant robin]

Nope, just a tiny chihuahua that bites the boyfriends ankles

[timid prism]

Someone should make weight sharing qr

[gritty bane]

what

[timid prism]

Scan qr send weight

[gritty bane]

??

[timid prism]

I m thin

[unborn crescent]

i have board exam in 24 hours

[gritty bane]

just eat

fr

[timid prism]

I eat so much

[distant robin]

Weight training dude 120kg bench presses

[half relic]

some people are like that

[distant robin]

Get your thyroid checked out, it could be overactive

I actually weigh 95kg 🤔

[timid prism]

I dont have weightloss or any symptoms or anything ever. No doc ever mentioned that 😔

Im just

Constant

[distant robin]

Just ask to get it checked

[half relic]

my daughter is like that

[timid prism]

Hmm next time when home ill do

[half relic]

she grows though so the doctor's arent' worried

[distant robin]

How old is she?

[half relic]

11

[timid prism]

I grew too

[distant robin]

That’s normal unless she keeps losing weight, nothing to worry about

[half relic]

i think her dad was like that too

im sure he was actually

it's probably genetic

[distant robin]

Yeah it can hereditary. My dad’s the same, he can’t out in weight too. He has a rare blood type so I think it can be that

He’s B+

[half relic]

he didn't start gaining weight till he was in his 30's

[distant robin]

I’m O+ so I have a tendency to put it on much more quickly if I don’t watch what I eat

[distant robin]

See?

[timid prism]

O+ me too!

[distant robin]

How old are you?

[timid prism]

Im below 21

[timid orbit]

90% of the time putting on or losing weight all has to do with calories in and calories out. I wouldn’t judge a persons weight until you start tracking.

[boreal scarab]

https://open.spotify.com/track/1gQf9pbGGzVkph7BUfwi6X

[half relic]

you might have to change how you eat when you get to around 35

[distant robin]

My brother was also like you, weeee but he only started gaining after he started gym and bulking up. Similar age

[timid prism]

I do gym too just started

[half relic]

riding my bike to work made a bigger difference than the gym

[timid orbit]

Studies show that metabolism doesn’t slow down till about 50/60 years old. Until then, it’s only eating habits and activity that do (mostly). 🙂

[timid prism]

I ride a bike as well ( bike= cycle?)

[half relic]

i have heard that but then i have seen things too

[distant robin]

He complained to me that he was too skinny and wanted to bulk up. Someone told him to join gym and eat lots of carbs. He’s now 43 and looks good

[half relic]

i don't know if it's metabolism or what

[timid prism]

Ooooo very nice

[spice turtle]

Speed???

[timid orbit]

Also muscle mass plays a major factor. More muscle, more calories required to maintain weight.

[distant robin]

Maybe try that. Eat more too

[half relic]

maybe that's it cause muscle mass doesnt' automatically accumulate like it does when you are younger too

[distant robin]

He used to mountain bike too and so did I

[half relic]

you can still acquire it but it's more work

[timid orbit]

Building muscle depreciates greatly after age 28 iirc but Google for accurate info

[half relic]

i wish i still lived in an area where i could ride a bike everywhere

that's the easiest way to stay in shape imo

[distant robin]

Yep it does but if you maintain it, then yeah 👍🏻

[timid prism]

I eat a lot but only during meals. Not other times if that makes any diff. I dont stuff junk food as well or drinks.

[half relic]

cause you build muscle and burn calories without trying just going places

[distant robin]

Snacks in between like peanuts, health crisps etc…

[timid prism]

Ahh very interesting, there isnt a safe way for mountain riding here but i just do normal riding

[distant robin]

6 meals a day

[timid orbit]

They all add up. A teaspoon of olive oil is like 200 cals or something idk

[timid prism]

Hmm okay will also do add that more often thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @distant robin (current: #205 - 51)

[half relic]

i counted calories with cronometer once but it's a lot of trouble adding everything you eat into an app

[timid orbit]

Yes absolutely

I hate doing it

[distant robin]

It’s a pita

[timid prism]

I live in hostel so there isnt a lot of those stuff available. Like yes in shops but not proper storing place wit me

[distant robin]

Get a storage box that you can put under your bed

[timid orbit]

Personally I wouldn’t want to eat a teaspoon of straight olive oil

[distant robin]

Or wardrobe

[half relic]

that would be terrible

[distant robin]

I would. It’s good for you

[half relic]

i used to put walnut oil on green beans though

instead of butter

[timid orbit]

Nah put it on my chicken

[distant robin]

Butter is what you need for brain function, you need animal based fat

[distant robin]

Yeah that’s delicious too

[half relic]

i thought it was omega 3 fats

[timid orbit]

Your brain need everything to function 🤣

[half relic]

omega 6 fats are easy to get

if you arent a vegetarian

[distant robin]

You need a balance. When doctors tell you that animal fats are bad for you, it’s a lie

[timid orbit]

*weak

FTFY

[timid prism]

thanks for all your suggestions everyone ill try some in between snacks as that's possible
Now its time for sleepy sleepy
Goodnight

[distant robin]

Good night

[distant robin]

Yep yep yep and fcking hell yep

[half relic]

mine needs coffee

lol

that's not a nutrient though

[timid orbit]

Mine only gets coffee

[distant robin]

Mine only gets one cup a day

[half relic]

technically it's drugs

[timid orbit]

I’m drugged out of my mind then

[distant robin]

Lmao we’re addicted to caffeine

[timid orbit]

Addicted? I consider it a hobby

[half relic]

i used to drink coffee all day

like sweet creamy coffe

i didn't eat breakfast

[timid orbit]

I like mine black

[half relic]

i drink one strong black cup now

[distant robin]

My biggest issue is not eating breakfast, I’ve just never been able to stomach eating early in the morning

[half relic]

i stopped putting sugar in it because the dentist told me it was bad

i couldn't before

[timid orbit]

Sugar makes it taste weird

[half relic]

sometimes i still drink a mocha now

[distant robin]

Yup it’s bad for teeth and I need to give it up too 😳😱

[timid orbit]

I don’t have time to. I haven’t eaten breakfast in forever

[distant robin]

I haven’t in the last 20 years lol 😂

I’ll have breakfast for lunch

[half relic]

i eat more in the morning than i do at night now for some reason

i don't eat much for dinner

[timid orbit]

Lunch is my biggest meal. Not sure why

[distant robin]

Right I need to get my butt out of bed and do some thm

[timid orbit]

Dew it!

[half relic]

i kinda wish i could go to a coffee shop and do thm now

[oblique flint]

I have quick question, so i was thinking about when pentesting or anything of that sort you might need a web server that would be called back to by client, and you would want to be hidden of course so you couldnt just port forward it to your network, what do most people do for this?

[half relic]

do you guys think it makes a difference to change your ssh and rdp ports to alternate ports or is it just pointless

[half relic]

I haven't done any pentesting outside of thm so I don't know but it seems you would have to do that or have a jump box or something of some kind

[pastel sand]

Hello, I am facing a problem while I was giving the SEC1 exam, final module I was disconnected for a split second and then I saw my room was "in progress" and timer went on going and now it has reached 00:00 and I was unable to go to that module, answer or even see the material, now it is on 00:00 and not moving nor anything else is happening I have created a ticket, any other thing I could do?

[half relic]

I don't know what most bug bounty hunters do

[half relic]

You'll probably have to wait for a response to teh ticket

i think it's rare for thm staff to be on discord

[pastel sand]

Dang it, it stills says around 11 hour till the exam ends while the timer for module is now on 00:00

[half relic]

that must be frustrating

[gritty bane]

this is mostly red teaming territory

not pentesting

you are probably not gonna do something like that in pentesting

since pentesting everyone kinda knows what you are doing already lol there is no need to be hidden

there are a lot of documentaries online and articles that show how this works behind the scenes

i am assuming you are talking about a c2 server here

you can do research on what a c2 is

[half relic]

i think he is asking how to have a listener or web server to connect back to for certain exploits

[gritty bane]

yeah thats what i thought but he said hidden

thats what ticked me off for red team

[half relic]

oh i missed that part

[distant robin]

Lol looks ike you misunderstood my text - 120kg bench presses at the gym...

[gritty bane]

did you use to bench 120kg

is that what you mean

if so that is a lot

maybe you are naturally bulky or something so you could do it but i am skinny and 80kg is a lot for me too 😂

[distant robin]

@gritty bane yes that's what I meant

[gritty bane]

120kg is a lot

[distant robin]

No, I have scottish ancestry lol and I'm only 1.57m tall

and I used to work with horses and cows.

[gritty bane]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-dog-gif-14542099238045824336

[distant robin]

Horses and cows weigh over 1tonne

[gritty bane]

mfw a 46 year old woman can effortlessly beat me up

gg

[half relic]

lol

[distant robin]

Use to wrangle the cows for their injections if they got sick to stop them from kicking me

[oblique flint]

okay interesting, i kind of assumed even in pentesting you want to use best practice being hidden and everything

[gritty bane]

nah thats red teaming

which is basically simulating what attackers would do

the big bad scary hackers

pentesting is going crazy as long as you follow the scope 😂

[oblique flint]

red teaming is legal though right>

?

[gritty bane]

company hires you company knows you are gonna test their assets for any vulnerabilities

[gritty bane]

of course

there is a difference between red teaming and black hat activities

[oblique flint]

ok ok

[gritty bane]

red teaming is you acting like a black hat

phishing against employees, trying to nest yourself in the internal company blah blah

thats red teaming

pentesting is mainly for finding bugs in company assets

[oblique flint]

okay okay i think i get the difference now

[gritty bane]

and of course both have a scope that you must follow

[oblique flint]

I guess I should have rephrased for red teaming not pentesting, thank you tho

[distant robin]

Yeah, don't forget there's 3 categories - white hat hacker, grey hat hacker and black hat hacker...

[gritty bane]

go beyond the scope and you go beyond your house to a jail cell 😂

[gritty bane]

still though

there are a lot of ways for a red teamer to set up a c2

i recommend you read on it like i said

since that seems to be what you are asking about

[oblique flint]

with the c2 servers?

[gritty bane]

yes

[oblique flint]

i have basic understanding of that but i will do more research

[half relic]

speaking of that i just read this article where some pentesters who were following the scope outline in their contract got arrested and put in jail then sued for 600,000 https://arstechnica.com/security/2026/01/county-pays-600000-to-pentesters-it-arrested-for-assessing-courthouse-security/

[gritty bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlysfDAVKXM

foundation

[gritty bane]

yeah its very delicate work

[blissful finch]

is this a meme

[gritty bane]

what

[oblique flint]

damn thats scary actually

[half relic]

yeah

[oblique flint]

just doing your job and going to jail getting sueed for 600,000

[gritty bane]

it is really not

just

follow the scope to the letter

[half relic]

no sorry i should have expressed that better

[gritty bane]

ask your employer if you have any questions

they will always help you clear up any mishaps

[half relic]

they sued for 600,000 and won

for getting put in jail

[gritty bane]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-monkey-think-monkey-meme-ponder-monkey-idea-gif-6401133862108294696

i read that wrong myself

i thought they went out of scope

[half relic]

no they didn't

that's why it's scary

it's good that they won, but they were still put in jail

[royal kiln]

I remember this sotry when it was happening and hurd an interview of one of the guys on darknet dieries podcast.. very interesting case, that is how I learned about physical penetration testing (my dream job.. but alas.. no market in my country)

[half relic]

i saw a defcon talk where they actually robbed a bank

cause it was in their contract that they could

[distant robin]

Yeah it's within the scope so they're allowed to test the banking security

[half relic]

i would be afraid of getting shot but i think they were in europe somwhere

i don't remember where

[dark wolf]

sounds like free advertisement to hackers. HEY EVERYONE .. were not secure!! look how easy these guys got in

[half relic]

yeah now it's in the news lol

they left a door unlocked

[dark wolf]

instead of "fixing the problem" let me have a big ego

they got paid in the end though eh?

[half relic]

they should have left that out of the contract if they didn't want them walking through unlocked doors

lockpicking was allowed according to the article

[dark wolf]

they locked the unlocked door first then used a shim to open it back up

[half relic]

that's true

[dark wolf]

opens door .. that was too easy, let me lock it and try again

[half relic]

lol

[royal kiln]

reminds me a yt video where a famous car thief was going around showing how easy it is to jack cars from dealerships.. one of the dealerships got robbed 1 week after the video release with the tactics he showcased -_- like.. did you learn NOTHING?

[dark wolf]

There was a couple car manufactures who knew it was easy to hotwire the car by opening the steering wheel and plugging in a usb and it was even on tik tok and they did nothing for a long time

teens were stealing hyundais and kias left and right

there were a couple of kids in las vegas that did that and filmed themselves INENTIONALLY running over people riding bikes

they killed one older man

[half relic]

wow that's terrible

[dark wolf]

yeah, horrible!

[half relic]

i can't begin to imagine what motivates people to do things like that

[royal kiln]

damn.. Let me guess. Kia and Hyundai said.. I am sowwy :3 not doing it again.. and got a slap in the hand fine (if any)?

[dark wolf]

Most businesses in America determine whether it will cost more to fix something that can kill people or if it's cheaper to pay the fines

Ford did this as early as 1980 when the Ford Pinto had an issue since the gas tank was in the back of the car, when people hit it, it would explode

Ford knew it and figured it would be cheaper to settle claims than fix it

[half relic]

i read about that

[wide slate]

The Great Disappearing Act

can i get the waltrough for the above room.

[blissful snow]

Hey can does anyone wanna help me code s omething?

[feral whale]

what do u need help with?

[blissful snow]

it n ot r ealy h elp j ust w ant someone to c ode w ith but

hold o n let me t urn this off

[feral whale]

https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-5432297967573209335

[timid orbit]

From a security perspective, eJPT/CySA+ both mention that it’s better for obscurity. From a functional perspective, it’s usually just more annoying for tools and CLI because now you have to remember the non-standard port and type it in, not to mention except it specifically in firewalls and whatnot.

[blissful snow]

ok sooo

[half relic]

it is a pain, and people still brute force the ports

lol

[timid orbit]

Yes lol

[feral whale]

don't use ports

https://tenor.com/view/meme-you-cant-outsmart-me-thinking-use-your-head-smile-gif-17109386

[blissful snow]

something for spotify that give you ulimited skips and no add by connecting to a pc using the future and skipping then swapping back to the mobile device i think it follows tos

[timid orbit]

If you don’t access your machine, you don’t need any way of accessing it

[blissful snow]

for some reason you have ulmited skips on pc

[feral whale]

if u don't use technology u don't have to worry about such things

[blissful snow]

also brb i have class

[feral whale]

its on purpose

[dark wolf]

"When cloud computing offerings were less common, and cat videos were not streamed by millions of people every day, the application designs and the overall architectures of the systems were different." - Cisco U class

[blissful snow]

ok im back now

i have online school

pe is weird

but umm what i was saying

bascially its a control so when you skip a song it swaps to pc skip the song and swap back to the mobile device

controller*

[feral whale]

u can do that with ur phone if pc and phone are in the same network

[blissful snow]

hmm

[feral whale]

idk what do u want to accomplish?

switching songs?

[blissful snow]

yeah

on mobile you have lmited skips

limited

[blissful snow]

do you think i can host this some type of way

not openly of course

[feral whale]

idk create a private vpn network similar to thm

u can use a simple openvpn network

[blissful snow]

isn't free is it?

well yeah

[feral whale]

bro idk never thought about it

cause i pay for spotify

[blissful snow]

same

untill the deal ran out

[feral whale]

look openvpn is opensource

if u host it yourself

the network

[dusty tapir]

Dont be - I appreciate it lmao

[feral whale]

its free on an old pc or server

u can connect to that network using ur phone

if ur pc is in the same openvpn network

u should in theory be able to change songs

from ur phone

for pc

[blissful snow]

yeah i can

wait

oh i see what your saying

[frail zenith]

So cat videos are the metric for cloud architecture

[muted vector]

hi chat

[frail zenith]

Yo

[placid iris]

Hello guys,
I have a large file (around 4GB) and I want to check if it contains malware.
Is there another way to check it without using VirusTotal, since the file is too large?

[distant robin]

@dark wolf woot!

[muted vector]

tirage.

if thats the name

[frail zenith]

Hash the file and then check the hash ?

[muted vector]

idk

[muted vector]

triage is also a decent way to check it

but its really slow

[distant robin]

@dark wolf @narrow yew

[frail zenith]

I have to check it out

[wild rose]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-doorbell-hello-chat

[half relic]

Hello

[muted vector]

biggest detection lol by a user

[frail zenith]

Dayummm

[frail zenith]

Yo

[wild rose]

The snow was pushed back till this evening, so I'm thinking of making a food run. should I make cookies or brownies?

[muted vector]

it also gives you a lot of statistics as well on where stuff gets sent to
(Example of a discordrat scan)

[frail zenith]

Brownies all the way

[muted vector]

also a replay of the virus in action as well if the stats are shared

with also cubes on each behaviour

which is actualy pretty good

[loud marlin]

BUY LICENCE 🙂 like all normal ppl lol

[timid orbit]

Does anybody have a list of IOCs to check for for the Notepad++ virus?

[wild rose]

Is this a sandbox?

[timid orbit]

I wanna see if my laptop was f’cked

[loud marlin]

if you are in doubt, reinstall os

[frail zenith]

Yep

[wild rose]

It was a targeted attack so I wouldn't think any of us common ppl were hacked.

also brownies wins by 1 vote.

[timid orbit]

That is a pita

I’d much rather just check for IOCs and call it a day

[loud marlin]

fair enough

[distant robin]

You copying me now

[timid orbit]

How?

[distant robin]

It's a pita lol

https://tenor.com/view/pita-gif-15681406160062594144

[timid orbit]

Lol

[wild rose]

Here's the Rapid7 writeup on it. https://www.rapid7.com/blog/post/tr-chrysalis-backdoor-dive-into-lotus-blossoms-toolkit/

[half relic]

i should read that cause i use notepad++

[wild rose]

It's a very targeted attack, but it's nice to familiarize yourself with these writeups.

[distant robin]

Yeah, that's scary because I also use Notepad++ too

[half relic]

I'll read it

[distant robin]

@wild rose is there a solution to clean the infection or whatever?

I also need to find myself another free Antivirus - Avast has become a pain in the rear end now

[timid orbit]

thx 🙏

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @wild rose (current: #239 - 44)

[half relic]

there wouldn't have been a good way for average users to defend against this. I know we're not the target but it

s unsettling

[wild rose]

malwarebytes is my go to

[frail zenith]

Isn't WINDOWS defender enough?

[distant robin]

@half relic you're right, it's unsettling

[frail zenith]

For me antivirus feels more of adware

[timid orbit]

You’re spitting more facts than a facts machine

[robust grove]

im in length extension room an trying to put on vm i rm all the md4 but im still running into a problem with the make func. coud anyone give hand real quick

[distant robin]

I don't think it is. User error is usually not protected but since I'm in SOC learning, it's easy to spot scams, spams and stuff. The nice thing about Avast is my protection online because it blocks malicious urls from Google when I look for stuff. so it does work for me but keeps on bothering me and telling me I have security issues when there is none and no option to turn those type of notifications off.

[half relic]

i was still using eset

it has a tiny footprint

[distant robin]

Eset is not bad

Avast was good until they started pushing advertising and monetizing it.

[frail zenith]

But at the same I feel url blocking thing maybe useful FOR ONLY people with tech allergy

[half relic]

that sounds annoying

[frail zenith]

Like if you know basics you can easily avoid these things

Which anyone in modern age have

[half relic]

at least then i wouldn't accidentally click things. im clumsy and laptop mouses are terrible

[distant robin]

yeah, it is really useful for online web security but the rest, not so much. It also creates a false positive for some of my files which are actually safe.

[leaden trellis]

Eyo, im doing one ctf from a path and the target machine became unresponsive(i am connected via vpn)

[frail zenith]

Then enters mcafee in the chat

[leaden trellis]

tried terminating the machine and starting a new one - but still

[half relic]

i keep middle clicking with this one and pasting my clipboard in random places

[frail zenith]

In these cases I just restart my whole pc

[leaden trellis]

ye? damn

i dont wanna restart my whole pc LOL, i could tho

[distant robin]

Ugh, don't get me started on McAfee, it was the worst of the lot I used to work with. Really horrible.

[frail zenith]

I know it's very inefficient but sometimes I have to feed my anger somewhere

[distant robin]

When I first got my laptop, I had McAfee preinstalled and it was so damn fecking annoying, I uninstalled it and installed Avast

[frail zenith]

Whenever I delete it it pops up from somewhere

[wild rose]

I've used mcafee enterprise, it has all the bells and whistles, but does it poorly.

[half relic]

i remember my dad got a worm onece while using norton and it didn't detect it till there were like 1000 copies then it opened a modal dialog about each copy asking what to do about it making the pc unusable

[distant robin]

Yeah I had that issue with many machines when their antivirus expires and the customers wanted the free antivirus. There was another one we used for them, the free one (I can't remember the name), suddenly we'd get pop ups and I had to first try to uninstall from the folder. If that was missing, I had to go into the registry to delete the keys from there.

[frail zenith]

I don't know why I have never encountered a virus in my life

[distant robin]

We had one go through my office network when I was working as a technician. It came from my boss's computer and then it was sent to all his clients lol

[frail zenith]

It feels like survivor bias to me

Atp

[half relic]

oops

[frail zenith]

Maybe virus is so good that I haven't been able to detect it till now

[distant robin]

yeah we had to do a lot of damage control - one of the guys I worked with, he had to shut down the network and then clean everything.

[wild rose]

Antivirus programs can have anti-tampering setup, where you have to put in your pw to unlock it.

[half relic]

that must be embarrassing for him

and sounds like a huge mess

ESET has that

[distant robin]

Yeah it was for him, his face was red lol

He and his father who was his business partner had to call all the clients and ask them not to open the email or the attachment

[frail zenith]

Where did it came from mails or free ram

[distant robin]

Not sure, it was from a client I think.

[frail zenith]

Seems very honest mistake

[distant robin]

Yep, even all of us are not perfect.

It was really a long time ago. I was 26 at that time

[half relic]

my old ceo wouldn't let us set a temporary password for him in active directory and instead insisted on telling us specifically what he wanted and he didn't want it to expire. It was also a terrible password. he also insisted on having access to absolutely everything in the company

that company was terrible

[wild rose]

even when handling malware, it's super easy to double click on it by accident vs a single click.

[half relic]

im not surprised the company that bought it got rid of the it department

i would have too

i still remember the password

[wild rose]

oof a non-expiring pw on a local account is not good.

[frail zenith]

I guess his mindset is like I am the CEO I need to be omniscient

[half relic]

i bet he used the same one for everything too

yeah i think so

and i know what it is

lol

not my fault though i tried to get him to set it himself

[distant robin]

Oh no, that's not on at all.

[half relic]

i think he was a domain admin

[distant robin]

The council I used to work for, they insisted I change my password every 3 months for security reasons which is the right way to go about it

[wild rose]

https://klipy.com/gifs/police-coco

[frail zenith]

Damn

[half relic]

we couldn't do anything about ti though

[frail zenith]

Is the company still alive

[half relic]

he was the ceo

[jade ore]

Hi, I´m new here

[half relic]

no it was sold and absorbed by a bigger company who used an msp

[frail zenith]

Yo

[jade ore]

I have a question, about the attackbox

[half relic]

i wouldn't talk about it if it still existed

[frail zenith]

I am suprised it survived till now

[frail zenith]

Shoot it

[jade ore]

how can I swithc betwen open apps, I´ve been tryin with alt+tab but it doest works

[half relic]

i was actually domain admin at that company too and i started as a help desk intern

they couldn't get my permissions right so they finally gave up and made me admin

[frail zenith]

I never tried but I think the A thingy can do it on mid LHS

[half relic]

lol

so that's why i don't trust companies with my data i guess

you never know

[jade ore]

I have to switch between apps, the vm is on linux, but alt+tab doesn´t work, and idk which one

[frail zenith]

At that time GUI for perms didn't exist ?

[half relic]

they had hipaa data too

[half relic]

there was a gui

[frail zenith]

So what was the issue it's a simple common sense

[tight lantern]

hi guys, I'm new to this and have a question about burp: is it okay to use burp browser for learning and actual pentesting? I mean without my personal browser or firefox in attackbox

[half relic]

i'm not sure

i don't remember what i was trying to do that wasn't working

[frail zenith]

Maybe maybe

It's impossible

[reef grove]

hello

[frail zenith]

Cuz your keyboard gonna confuse between vm browser and your pc browser

[frail zenith]

Yo

[jade ore]

maybe, maybe

[topaz steeple]

Didnt sleep yet dudlu?

[half relic]

you couldn't have a ' in input to some of the internal forms either without gettting an sql server error message

that kind of blew my mind lol

[frail zenith]

I am literally closing my eyes like unable to open it

[glad holly]

Ctrl alt to tab out of your vm then you can alt tab back into it

[frail zenith]

The reason I am typing so slow is cuz I am sleepy

[topaz steeple]

Just put the phone down,kid

[frail zenith]

Ohhk 😭

[reef grove]

The IP given to me by openvpn is 192. but the ctf IP starts with 10. Between these, the connection is lost in local.

fix problem?

[topaz steeple]

Yea a nice sleep is gon fix you

[frail zenith]

I did that technically whole day

[half relic]

even back then i knew that was bad

[frail zenith]

But I am hungry too

[jade ore]

nothing :/

[frail zenith]

But too lazy to eat anything

[timid orbit]

Literally SQLi 🤣

[half relic]

i always get hungry if i stay up to late

yeah lol

[glad holly]

What r u using

[topaz steeple]

Just sleep lil bro, its a shitty state to be hungry and sleepy

[frail zenith]

I literally skipped dinner today 😭

[topaz steeple]

Ggs, just munch on smthing light dawg nd sleep

[frail zenith]

Too lazy to eat

[distant robin]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

[topaz steeple]

Or its gon mess your next day too

[topaz steeple]

Hey valkyrie

[distant robin]

Dude, go eat something

[frail zenith]

Munched on some protein bars...

[jade ore]

what room? or...?

[distant robin]

Hey @topaz steeple

[glad holly]

What kind of vm

Or

Are u on the browser thingy

[topaz steeple]

Dudlu finna ruin his next day like this

[topaz steeple]

Wsg

[distant robin]

Nothing wrong with protein bars

[frail zenith]

Already did kind of light things random ahh chocos bars some crisps and shiz

[distant robin]

?

[topaz steeple]

Skipping meals tho

[frail zenith]

In short a 10 years old dream

[topaz steeple]

Whats good

[distant robin]

That's actually not healthy really

Needs a proper balanced meal

[frail zenith]

I had very heavy in afternoon smh

[wild rose]

It's 3pm, I'm on my 3rd cup of coffee, and I'm dead tired.

[brittle merlin]

https://github.com/CreamyG31337/chrysalis-ioc-triage/ this seems promising

[topaz steeple]

Lovely reality

[topaz steeple]

Yay

[jade ore]

is a linux vm, in the room of race condition. but maybe i´m gonna be working with the right bar