general

[reef prawn]

this sounds nice

[echo crypt]

Hi There,

Is anyone posting the setup here for AOC25 ?

[narrow yew]

@sturdy sequoia They gave back my sub after 7 days but no comp 😄

[sturdy sequoia]

really? whys that?

[narrow yew]

I had 10 months sub left and got the BF deal and canceled it, but they took all months.
I got it back yesterday.

[sturdy sequoia]

i mean why didnt they compensate you?

[narrow yew]

They should be happy for the oldies and just add 2-3 years

I have no idea 😄 But I did get a sorry

@sturdy sequoia Did you have a good day?

[sturdy sequoia]

well at least youre back. still morning for me but so far its alright

gave up on the side quest. back to working on my projects

[narrow yew]

I have been offline for a week but back now

[merry saddle]

why doing the advent

[velvet gull]

cause fun?

[spice sigil]

did you know that you can have linux kernel and terminal inside the windows? 🤯

[steady pewter]

yeah

wsl

[dark wolf]

Hey Math, I saw a nother GAZA tag in the spanish/english learning server

[merry saddle]

what if i don't know what to do

i get lost

[sturdy sequoia]

keep learning and try again next year

[merry saddle]

what is the fun in not being able to understand the whole scale of IT

Dunno for me so far, I've done a lot of theory

but 0 practice and when I have to do something ,I'm 100% lost

[velvet gull]

AoC is very walkthrough-like, you just have to follow what's written for each days task and do what they say

[merry saddle]

especially if we have to simulate real cenarios, real life hackers, real life attacks etc

[velvet gull]

only side quests require more

[dark wolf]

AOC is for newbies

[sturdy sequoia]

well thats obviously why you dont understand how its fun

[dark wolf]

if you can't follow the directions in the AOC and complete it, you may want to rethink career choices

[merry saddle]

there is no career choice @dark wolf

[velvet gull]

if u wanna you can add me and I can help you find your footing tomorrow, we can do an AoC day on call together and we'll see what's the issue exactly

[merry saddle]

i'm 27 and have a very bad financial life

never been able to hold a job more then 2 months in my entire life

so for me working or being stable is impossible

so there you go

[dark wolf]

so did i at 27, now I'm well off, but that not holding down a job not me ... i hold down jobs till i don't want them anymore

[velvet gull]

you get distracted a lot? brain running around in circles?

[merry saddle]

One of the things

plus I'm a enrolled student

[velvet gull]

ever looked into ADHD?

[merry saddle]

in a formal education in Europe

and all the teachers talk talk talk about Informatics and cyber

but 0 practice

0 Cloud , 0 VM, how to do the VM, how to connect the system ?

etc

[velvet gull]

THM will give you a lot of practice

[merry saddle]

we don't do practical things

and that is scarry considering how fast AI grows

we will be easily replaced

easily replaced if not the best

or among the best coders/ hackers etc

[sturdy sequoia]

oh god here we go

[dark wolf]

I'll only be replaced when I choose to retire

And I choose when I retire LOL I'm Gen-X

[merry saddle]

I already payed 40 $

[dark wolf]

Neither Gen-Z or Gen-A are a threat to my knowledge bwbahahahahahha

[narrow yew]

gang gang!

[velvet gull]

AI will not be replacing entire cyber sec teams anytime soon lol

[merry saddle]

and yea you get some certificates of compleition right

which are nice on Linkedin

[velvet gull]

are you doing it daily?

[merry saddle]

but at some point, when the company asks me , what is that , what can you do practically

i'm lost

[narrow yew]

I will test Copilot security next week, see what it can offer

[velvet gull]

are youuu taking notes?

[merry saddle]

because in theory right now, I'm not really sure what to do, how to secure , what to secure etc

[velvet gull]

ohhh if you get notes I'd love to see them!

[merry saddle]

I do have a notebook yea

[dark wolf]

copilot security sounds like an oxymoron

[merry saddle]

Well my collegues have some background in IT, like hmm they got a bachelor's in computer science

[velvet gull]

and are you studying those notes or just writing info down? are you copying info word by word?

[narrow yew]

Life is life, nanananan

[merry saddle]

my bachelor has nothing to do with IT

i did business administration

which is only economic theory

no IT, no computers ,no data science , nothing

we only did excel and word

[narrow yew]

Security Copilot is now a part of E5

[merry saddle]

@velvet gull I'm doing a master programme which requires some basis of computer science and programming

which I don't have and never had

cybersecurity requires you to have some basics

for example, how systems work, or how does a server work etc

and how all those things connected work etc

[narrow yew]

How did you end up doing a master not knowing those things

[merry saddle]

I just got accepted @narrow yew

[narrow yew]

But prior studies before seeking a master

[merry saddle]

You don't need to have the same bachelor's , to do a master's in other field

you can always do different majors

[rapid merlin]

Are passwords stored in a sql database?

[velvet gull]

What made you choose it then?

[merry saddle]

money @velvet gull

and the fear of dying

[fervent cove]

there may be in .config

[merry saddle]

because food is gonna be expensive

salaries , among the highest

[narrow yew]

I got a fido key

[fervent cove]

or awful misconfiguration

[merry saddle]

And yes I have ADHD

[rapid merlin]

Are the passwords hashed?

[sturdy sequoia]

my passwords are stored in my mind

[merry saddle]

and very bad memeory, like even drawing is a problem

[velvet gull]

if you're in this field for the money then you won't get far, this is a constantly evolving place where your learning never ends

[merry saddle]

true

I never saw people that love their jobs

even in coding or computer science

[dark wolf]

sometimes

[merry saddle]

and most rich people i met, also hated their jobs

[spice sigil]

I didn’t know that and it blows my mind

[merry saddle]

so even the upper class, hates their jobs

so that won't change I guess

[dark wolf]

I LOVE my job

[narrow yew]

What are those people hating jobs

[spice sigil]

The best thing

I hate mine

[narrow yew]

Pampered kids

they hate

[merry saddle]

I just started doing cybersecurity from 15 october

almost 2 months

but even know , understanding what a IP is , and what are the protocols

how many protocols

I'm still lost in space

even after reading the same definitions, computers make no sense

why ?

because humans explain these things in so many ways that makes my mind fucked

[dark wolf]

That is all Networking, there is a whole other career path in Networking

[narrow yew]

oh you had a lot of caffeine

[merry saddle]

like a lot of tech people do know how to explain things

they get lost in details

[spice sigil]

Bcs your brain need time

[merry saddle]

that's what I have about it people

they don't know how to explain shitt

[velvet gull]

Sorry for the direct question but considering that you have admitted being diagnosed with ADHD, are you currently medicated @merry saddle?

[dark wolf]

Security takes at least 2 years to learn and that's if you are dedicated

[fervent cove]

if no one responds how big can his wall of text be

[narrow yew]

I think you need to quit drugs

or drinking

[spice sigil]

Give it some time

[velvet gull]

Typical adhd brain tbh

[dark wolf]

talk to gen-x and older people like me then

[merry saddle]

Drugs won't help

[velvet gull]

So.. No meds?

[merry saddle]

ADHD drugs , increase anxiety which makes you suicidal or increase fear

we all know that

at least most know that

[velvet gull]

Yeah and without adhd meds you can't really focus or learn anything

[spice sigil]

Oh you mean the American style “drugs” ok

[velvet gull]

That's why the mix of meds + therapy is recommended

[narrow yew]

Seems like you have it all figured out

[merry saddle]

they use the same drugs in Europe

which destroys the brain

[narrow yew]

answers to anything but no knowledge at all of the subject

just things you read or heard

[merry saddle]

No , what I hate about IT is that

[spice sigil]

Its medicines or pharmaceutical products mate , drugs or drug store in Europe is the illegal staff

[merry saddle]

I prefer doing 1 thing

I don't want to learn about EVERYTHING

i just wanna learn 1 piece

[heady parrot]

i have interwiev tommorow

[merry saddle]

that's what is pisisng me off about cyber

[narrow yew]

But IT evolves all the time

you need to learn new things

[merry saddle]

cause they say, you need to know a little about everything

[slim ember]

Ngl you don't have to understand everything 100% at once, when i started i do remember myself not understabding everything perfectly but as i went on and learnt other thinfs and practiced stuff eventually the full understanding of said things was just naturally planted in my brain

[heady parrot]

it is about tutor for coding

[narrow yew]

You should sell burgers or something

that stays the same

[tranquil pollen]

Agree

[heady parrot]

well if i got the job it would be not bad

[velvet gull]

Yeah you do, I mean if it's pissing you off so much maybe you should find a new career

[dark wolf]

Eventually it all ties together

[narrow yew]

well now smash burgers is a popular item so you need to learn that

[spice sigil]

Just relax and give your self some time to learn

[slim ember]

Yeah

[merry saddle]

I can't find anything else

i live with my mom and dad

and Romania is facing a extreme economic collapse

[velvet gull]

Aren't you a streamer?

[merry saddle]

so yea

[tranquil pollen]

Technology evolved very significantly....

[merry saddle]

in Romania , we have most companies

[narrow yew]

you need to find something you like, leave romaina and seek a future elsewhere

[merry saddle]

having layoffs

even experinced coders

were fucking fired

why ? Ai and Data Centers

and taxes ofc

[dark wolf]

I'm going to become an Influencer and All i will ever do is beg for money

[merry saddle]

it's too expensive to have coders

automotive , QA

fuck them

we don't need programmers, especially mediocre ones

That's what companies do know

[spice sigil]

Ez 🤣

[velvet gull]

Well, I don't think we're gonna get anywhere. Bro is seeking advice while not wanting any advice

[merry saddle]

well if people fire experienced coders right ?

what is my chance ?

how can I get a job ?

if I don't even have their knowledge of IT

that's my point , how's this industry gonna look like in 20 years ?

[velvet gull]

You can't without knowledge and you don't wanna do anything to improve your knowledge so what's the point?

[narrow yew]

Get an education and leave, you know what the rest of europe thinks of Romania and every city is flooded with people looking for handouts.
But here in sweden they can not get aid, because they are from within EU. No un-employment office either.
Make sure you can do 1 job good.

[spice sigil]

“Perfect” what do you mean?

[merry saddle]

It also has to do with culture I guess

but that's another topic

To me jobs should have nothing to do with how you look, how you talk, ofc langauges are important even in IT

but to me, it's about, how can one do their job well

[narrow yew]

I have co-workers in romaina also, so ofc there is well paying jobs.

You have huge industrial exports

[merry saddle]

For example now I'm doing the devsecops path on tryhackme

i started with the basics like everyone here finished the first 2 modules

now I'm doing security engineer , with containers , pipline , CI / CD etc

[narrow yew]

But those are all small fun things

[merry saddle]

but to me ,I'm more interested in protecting systems

like firewall, routers etc

PC, phones

[spice sigil]

Be in SOC then mate

[merry saddle]

I'm not so interested in coding or pen test

[narrow yew]

Then do the SC-200 then AZ-500 in microsoft. and go get a analyst job or a SOC team

[merry saddle]

I just want a easy job that pays me some money

[spice sigil]

Go in blue teaming

[narrow yew]

Adobe have huge offices in romiana

Capgemini also

[merry saddle]

are they certificates ?

[narrow yew]

They are

[merry saddle]

SC-200 or AZ-500 ?

aha

which company offers them

[velvet gull]

Microsoft

[merry saddle]

comptia ?

AZ-Azure right

[narrow yew]

Microsoft

[spice sigil]

I am not interested in pentesting ether , I am trying to do malware analysis but knowledge is like gold so learn everything

[merry saddle]

I also registered on IC2

they give free certificates to the first 5 million users

dunno

ofc if you pass the exam

then you gotta pay to retake exam

[spice sigil]

Anyway gn hackers is late here

[narrow yew]

If you want to get a foot in cyber those two are a great way in.

[merry saddle]

Do i have to learn python ?

[narrow yew]

nope

[merry saddle]

or a programming langauge

ok

[rapid merlin]

stay a little more

[merry saddle]

because that's another headache

[velvet gull]

Nighty nightt

[narrow yew]

Sure some programming will come along they way, but initially, no.

[merry saddle]

For me it's hard to memorize things

so that's good

[velvet gull]

Get meds and it won't be

It's that easy

[merry saddle]

coding for me makes no sense so memorzing it , is impossible

[velvet gull]

Adhd isn't a quirk or a personality trait, it's a chemical imbalance that's manageable with meds and therapy

[simple fern]

where does one get the invitation code for https://static-labs.tryhackme.cloud/apps/hoppers-invitation/

[narrow yew]

Look them up. They are about the Microsoft suite. Entra, Defender, Sentinel, Intune, Azure, etc.
This is a huge market for companies that keep their infrastructure there.

So having those certs shows that you know these systems well enough to start working in a SOC team, as a SOC Analyst, etc.
But if you want to know more, do not just ask. Look it up on your own. You see your own pattern here, you just wanted someone to tell you instead of just looking it up.

You do not memorise coding, you code until you learn it. But you still talk about what is bad about everything

Beeng negative will get you nowhere

Well I need to sleep, office day tomorrow

[merry saddle]

meds won't help but thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @velvet gull (current: #224 - 46)

[rapid merlin]

i don't want to be mean or something but he came here a while and had the same questions and he just wants to yap, bo matter how much you'll tell him he don't want to listen

[narrow yew]

Maybe go outdoors

[rapid merlin]

i told you this before, study cyber and if it's too hard for you just change the career

[merry saddle]

It's not that is it's hard

[narrow yew]

Look the certs up, practice speaking English also if its a bit wonky.

[sturdy sequoia]

woe is me

[merry saddle]

but one of the things that I know about myself , based on science

this is not a opinion

I have facts, facts based on data, based on science, statistics

about my brain you know

[tropic sail]

disengage angle

[sturdy sequoia]

its been such a depressing day here today

[merry saddle]

So my brain has , ADHD, Autism , depression, anxiety ( pannic attacks) dyselxia

[narrow yew]

Well did the doctor say all those things or google

[merry saddle]

the inabillity to say the right words and letters

[tropic sail]

What's up Shyft

[rapid merlin]

if it's not fit for you just change the career ez

[sturdy sequoia]

oh i mean the conversations happening here today have been depressing

[narrow yew]

Go catch me a kangaroo

I pay for shipping

[merry saddle]

well it's called neuromap

[sturdy sequoia]

theyre too quick, you need to entice them

[merry saddle]

it's a software and a device that scan your brain

and yea

[narrow yew]

Well I did not ask all that

[merry saddle]

based on the data, i have all of them

[narrow yew]

you have a doctor and google?

[merry saddle]

@narrow yew yea the doctor said that

i have too many diagnosis

and pills won't help due to the fact that one will increase the other

[rapid merlin]

what's your point about having adhd

[merry saddle]

so there is no pills that can help my brain

due to autism, adhd , and anxiety

which contradicts

[narrow yew]

I can bring carrots

We build a big trap

[sturdy sequoia]

you need vegemite and beer

[narrow yew]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-bird-trap-bird-trap-bird-cope-gif-9878295031528154539

[merry saddle]

anyway thanks for the help

I will go into the SOC path

and then maybe I'll follow some certs

but again, I don't wanna get lost in other things

[simple fern]

thats the spirit

[narrow yew]

Vegimite/Marmite is a one wierd product from beer production

[merry saddle]

my teachers are annyoing

they say i need to know a little about everything

[narrow yew]

you sound like noname

[merry saddle]

are they right ?

like you can't do blue team ,if you don't know red team ?

vice-versa ?

[sturdy sequoia]

maybe i

should

[narrow yew]

you can go full blue, no needto be red team but it will come with the blue part

[sturdy sequoia]

start talking

like this

too

[fervent cove]

what

are

you

talking

about

[grizzled sky]

i feel called out;

unironically i talk in short sentences too;

[narrow yew]

add a few random code bits, talk about things randomly for a while

[hushed carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/pigeon-falls-through-ground-gif-18154314812483306919

[rapid merlin]

we missed you all of us

[sturdy sequoia]

really? i dont think ive ever seen you type as bad as that

[narrow yew]

We make fun of others 🙂

[grizzled sky]

people have accussed me as such with the semicolon stuff;

[sturdy sequoia]

thats fine, its not intrusive

[grizzled sky]

awwwh;

[narrow yew]

Violet; (semicolon) awesome

You are in canda and that is awesome

[grizzled sky]

was i gone awhile? i had a sick morning but i didn't think i was gone that long;

[rapid merlin]

She's coding

[grizzled sky]

i was mostly just preping for that doomned interview;

[simple fern]

hey guys, and gals, where does one get the invitation code for https://static-labs.tryhackme.cloud/apps/hoppers-invitation/

[rapid merlin]

We noticed that you're missing

[narrow yew]

What are you asking them? What is the job for?

[grizzled sky]

was, i did the interview and now i am def not working for them;

tldr, the interviewer who is incharge of cyber is probably sexist even if he probably doesn't think he is;

[sturdy sequoia]

🙁 that sucks

[narrow yew]

Maybe not used to MTF

[grizzled sky]

legitimately said i much not be qualified because i "didn't say the term "threat modeling" after i just spent 40 minutes explaining exactly how i would do a vulnerability assessment including threat modeling;

[rapid merlin]

Here :
https://admin.tryhackme.com/vouchers

[grizzled sky]

and no ironically its because i passed as a woman that he seemed to be sexist towards me;

[simple fern]

hah, you got me 😛

[grizzled sky]

that's the grim paradox of passing as a trans woman, people just shit on your for looking like a cis woman if you pass;

[narrow yew]

#1444365547432186077

[hushed carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-face-cat-meme-face-cat-face-meme-gif-1942559384249480552

[grizzled sky]

it wasn't just the sexism though, the interviewer literally did a human rights violation under canada law;

[tropic sluice]

Tf did he do

[grizzled sky]

i requested for accomodations, the interviewer refused to give them;

[rapid merlin]

Who

[tropic sluice]

Interviewer

[sturdy sequoia]

fuck that company.

[grizzled sky]

and the company of the interviewer apparently had no formal process for requesting accomodations in interviews;

[narrow yew]

I had a bunch of beers with a cis woman I guess the term is the other week. It was just confused, it is not that comon here.

but a great beer drinker and good banter

[tropic sluice]

Can u report them to the company

[grizzled sky]

a fortune 500 company mind you;

the issue wasn't the interviewer imo;

the issue was the company itself;

[sturdy sequoia]

do you want to name and shame?

[narrow yew]

Next will be better

we will help you move on with gifs you did not ask for

[grizzled sky]

their interview process gives leads of each section of the company a gatekeeper power over hires;

[narrow yew]

or we can talk about other random things

[sturdy sequoia]

yer fuck them, good luck with the next one 🙂

[simple fern]

ah so it goes back one sidequest when you do the dissappearing act sq

[grizzled sky]

that basically means if the interviewer doesn't like people like you for any reason or no reason, they will be able to haze with no real oversight possible if you aren't an employee;

tldr it is what it is, going to continue the death march and keep applying to literally every job until i get even 1 more interview;

[narrow yew]

What are you evening plans?

Doing anything fun?

[grizzled sky]

not sure yet, i was thinking hades 2;

or genshin;

i had some donuts which was fun;

[narrow yew]

that is throwing apples at randoms?

hades 2

[grizzled sky]

still have to work on my portfolio too;

[narrow yew]

genshin is a dog?

[grizzled sky]

genshin impact;

lol;

[narrow yew]

Sure

As if I would know what it is

I am still going with the throwing apples part

[rapid merlin]

Video game

[grizzled sky]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-genshin-impact-lyney-lyney-snezhevich-lyney-genshin-impact-gif-2026135227753636713

[narrow yew]

me and shyft will go throw apples

[grizzled sky]

i love how the vinney twins just are derping in the background while daddy babysits them;

for those who are playing the story quests;

[narrow yew]

We know what that game is, not some genshin sounds like gen X learned how to shave

gen shin

Shooting apples in a potatoegun

@sturdy sequoia that is what you need to build

[sturdy sequoia]

Haha. Haven't built one of them for like 20 years

[grizzled sky]

https://youtu.be/FY0vvB0r9Gw

[narrow yew]

I will for sure after winter

shoot apples at my neighbours

[sturdy sequoia]

What propulsion will you use?

[velvet gull]

Potato guns aren't just a movie gimmick?

[narrow yew]

I was thinking air

[tropic sluice]

Anyone played that one genshin quest where a doctor tells them not to only eat a mushroom in a specific way but they end up not listening and the mushrooms make them see and hear things that aren't there and then they begin seeking out that experience even more

[narrow yew]

I saw it on mythbusters a long time ago, or gas I guess

[narrow yew]

now those are a fun thing

fun while having beer

having guns or rifles out are not good with beer

[sturdy sequoia]

Yer that's what we did. Mates dad was a mechanic so we had access to a good air compressor engine

[grizzled sky]

the drug trips in genshin are hillarious because even without drugs its just 1 big drug trip;

[narrow yew]

(non alcoholic beer still PG13)

[grizzled sky]

https://tenor.com/view/californication-rhcp-shark-surfing-gif-23246685

literally a real character idea for genshin impact that somehow isn't a drug trip;

[sturdy sequoia]

Are you or the characters taking the drugs?

[grizzled sky]

yes;

[hushed carbon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680459914828972076/1447693722241208431/image0.gif

[sturdy sequoia]

Move zig here?

[grizzled sky]

though actually that does remind me i need to take my meds;

i haven't actually taken my daily doctor prescribed drug trips yet;

the ones that somehow are healthy because a doctor gave them to me;

[sturdy sequoia]

Can't complain

[grizzled sky]

looks at my e cup boobs yup can't complain;

[sturdy sequoia]

I wish my doctor would prescribe me better drugs

[tropic sluice]

I cannot express how happy I am that I got arlechino and her weapon when she first came out

[grizzled sky]

i guess what i'm saying is do drugs if it gives you e cups;

side effects may include interview sexism;

but BOOBs though;

[narrow yew]

Give the sexist CTO that drug

[grizzled sky]

https://tenor.com/view/sprinkles-sweet-cakes-lies-gif-9003104

taste the rainbow;

https://tenor.com/view/pride-rainbow-gif-26074069

[sturdy sequoia]

Sorry if I say anything inappropriate. I get that you're kind of joking around but if i say something a bit weird, please pull me up on it

[grizzled sky]

nah i'm just memeing today;

[sturdy sequoia]

im just old and might not be caught up with the correct terminology

[grizzled sky]

words are just frames, all about good vibes;

[narrow yew]

I dont understand half

[grizzled sky]

as long as you aren't like that weirdo that started hitting on me in dms without even asking if they can dm first you're doing fine;

[narrow yew]

We will ask before hitting

[sturdy sequoia]

always ask first

[grizzled sky]

consent is always important yes;

[celest dirge]

Ig ur reaching unc status, major L moment, F in the chat for the giga chad.

[narrow yew]

We are uncs

[sturdy sequoia]

haha i understood some of that

[grizzled sky]

have i mentioned how the bad puns in genshin are major unc energy?;

https://tenor.com/view/cyno-genshin-impact-cyno-genshin-impact-cyno-chibi-cyno-cutie-gif-16384437157593385608

this legend though;

[narrow yew]

Then we there are those odd gifs

we dont understand

[celest dirge]

I'm already pushing my 20s and I already feel old

[sturdy sequoia]

unc is uniform naming convention right? 😛

[narrow yew]

What would a random manga of a girl looking like jailbait tell us

[grizzled sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k12m-NrfXS8&t=3s&pp=ygUOY3lubyBkYWQgam9rZXM%3D

[narrow yew]

ANIME

sorry

[grizzled sky]

pantheon is an american cartoon;

[celest dirge]

Not wrong.

[grizzled sky]

go watch it, its the new lain;

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/neko-pat-gif-18592698

[narrow yew]

I forgot to sleep

[grizzled sky]

have i not hyped up pantheon yet?;

[narrow yew]

now office is closer

[grizzled sky]

cause holy crap its a great show;

[narrow yew]

I would never watch that crap 😄

[grizzled sky]

and i only saw 6 episodes so far;

[sturdy sequoia]

pantheon was pretty good. and im not really an anime fan

[celest dirge]

Idk why, but I feel like Genshin is a visual novel/puzzle game disguised as an action game.

[grizzled sky]

yes;

[narrow yew]

@sturdy sequoia I grew up watching Prisoner (or Prisoner: Cell Block H).

[grizzled sky]

though literally my fav part is spending hours farming treasure chests;

[narrow yew]

Last show on swedish tv at 3.30am. 20 ish years ago

[grizzled sky]

same way i spent more time in breath of the wild farming gold seeds that def weren't poop;

[ornate ore]

hello

what is your typing speed people

[sturdy sequoia]

10/10 game right there

[celest dirge]

I could never, I need something fast paced and combat heavy. My attention span is not that very long.

[sturdy sequoia]

no idea

[narrow yew]

we type fast

[ornate ore]

there are websites to test

[narrow yew]

I AM SPEED

[sturdy sequoia]

yer but i havent used them

[ornate ore]

https://www.monkeytype.com

[grizzled sky]

go play celeste or hades then;

[narrow yew]

It is really un interesting information

[grizzled sky]

both great games that are nice and short levels;

[sturdy sequoia]

i only type with 4 fingers

[narrow yew]

who caes about typing speed

[celest dirge]

I already have Punishing Gray Raven

[grizzled sky]

thats a good one too;

[celest dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/liv-pgr-limpidity-punishing-gray-raven-gif-14167880200349782087

[rapid merlin]

Guys

[merry saddle]

does having a formal education helps ?

[rapid merlin]

Are script written in C

[rapid merlin]

Yes.

[grizzled sky]

its less about how fast you type but how effectively you use the cmd line;

[merry saddle]

or most people here don't go to school actually to get a known degree

do I still need certifications ?

if i get a formal degree

[narrow yew]

you are just ignoring what people write you

[rapid merlin]

Yes.

[velvet gull]

Yes

[grizzled sky]

a few lines of code can save you hundreds of hours of manual typing;

[merry saddle]

aha

[narrow yew]

I told you how to land a job already

[grizzled sky]

work smarter not harder;

[narrow yew]

go follow it and it will be no problem

[rapid merlin]

Just say yes or no that's what he wants

[celest dirge]

I'm not a guy, smh. It's "The last 4 digits of your bank card"

[velvet gull]

Yeah dude is hopeless

[heady parrot]

guys i want to buy a desktop computer
thaat around my budget of 50 to 100 dollar
i need 64gb of ram
the other components are not important

[ornate ore]

dont people get jobs without a degree

[rapid merlin]

Do you write script or make your own tools

[narrow yew]

Have you seen ram prices this week?

[merry saddle]

no

[velvet gull]

Ask in a place where they recommend pcs

[merry saddle]

but i forgat what certs did he say

[heady parrot]

yea :(

[rapid merlin]

Math I need your answer don't ignore me please

[merry saddle]

i gotta go back now and see the names

[narrow yew]

Go DDR4 and prices are manageable

[velvet gull]

Always take notes

[rapid merlin]

How can I learn writing script and tools

[merry saddle]

you take notes ?

[ornate ore]

i am new, where do i start?????????

[rapid merlin]

I know python, C, JavaScript, but idk how to use them

[narrow yew]

you did not forget, you were not interested enough to remember. It is a difference here

[rapid merlin]

#start-here

[sturdy sequoia]

#start-here

[velvet gull]

I do, I also take notes of what people like @narrow yew say. A friend was teaching me Microsoft Flight Sim and I was taking notes as well. Get in the habit of it

[celest dirge]

Really, I don't make my own tools. Can't seem to find a reason to.
If I were to make one, it would have meaning and purpose.. like a painting for example.

[merry saddle]

SC-200 then AZ-500 in microsoft

[narrow yew]

I like shoroiscubv

[heady parrot]

i need for ai

[narrow yew]

She have my consent to flirt anytime

[ornate ore]

i meant where do i start learning hacking

[merry saddle]

I like shortcuts

[heady parrot]

i am trying to build llm

[merry saddle]

fail fast mentality

[ornate ore]

roadmap?

[merry saddle]

work hard ,play hard, die hard

speedrun death bro

[sturdy sequoia]

#start-here

[rapid merlin]

I need to fill my resume and do projects

[velvet gull]

Thank you my dear online cyber father

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @narrow yew (current: #175 - 56)

[hushed carbon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324573870530891847/1398377267004047441/aintnowwayfor76.gif

[narrow yew]

you runied it.

[velvet gull]

You won't get anywhere with that attitude

[narrow yew]

with one line

[celest dirge]

Yeah bro, jus dump 100k into SANS and GIAC and you'll get hired in no time.
Trust 🔥🔥🔥

[rapid merlin]

Guys please someone tell me jeez

[narrow yew]

Thanks for reminding me of SANS

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @celest dirge (current: #175 - 56)

[ornate ore]

should i learn linux basics first or something else

[celest dirge]

No problem!

[ornate ore]

ik networking a bit

[sturdy sequoia]

whatever you want

[velvet gull]

See the Roadmap in the Learn section and follow that

[ornate ore]

the most efficient way

[ornate ore]

oh alr

[sturdy sequoia]

depends on your goals

[velvet gull]

The most efficient way to learn is just doing it instead of prepping for it indefinitely

[sand trench]

meep meep moop moop it is the time for sleep sloop to the beep boop

[ornate ore]

i mean what is the point of putting hard working in the wrong direction

[uneven kettle]

Can someone help get something

[rapid merlin]

Shadow I need you

[velvet gull]

That's what you have the Roadmap for, you'll be able to decide the direction after learning basics

[sturdy sequoia]

get what? and dont say something thats illegal

[ornate ore]

okay thanks.

[celest dirge]

There's one project I am slacking off on, and it's not really hard to do.
Which is, setting up elastic in my Active Directory domain.

[uneven kettle]

No

[rapid merlin]

Tell me more about it

In what language

[uneven kettle]

it's not

[velvet gull]

What is it then?

[sand trench]

for what???

[celest dirge]

Patience, that's the language I am using. I'm just gonna setup and deploy Elastic SIEM, and enroll one of my Windows workstations to the fleet.

[narrow yew]

🖖 @sand trench

[rapid merlin]

I asked a question and they all ignored me
The question is what can my first project in cybersecurity be (I know python, C, JavaScript)

[rapid merlin]

Let's do a project together if you want to

[celest dirge]

What project tho?

[narrow yew]

You are grounded and no screens

[sand trench]

portscanner is a popular one

[velvet gull]

I'm gonna sneak out when you're taking your old-man nap dw

[ornate ore]

where is the learn section you where talking about

[sand trench]

as this is first project and there for sometimes better to reinvent wheels

[rapid merlin]

Anything, in the next two months I have an internship and I have a lot of free time I want to learn more how to use coding in cybersecurity

[narrow yew]

Some might have you blocked

[velvet gull]

On the top of the thm website

[uneven kettle]

I lost my login to the account on ig

[rapid merlin]

What language should I use?

[ornate ore]

oh the website, i thought you were talking about a discord channel or smth

thanks

[velvet gull]

Illegal

[celest dirge]

Sounds good to me.

[rapid merlin]

I asked you and you ignored me

[untold sentinel]

guys

[sturdy sequoia]

contact ig

[untold sentinel]

im tryna connect to the vpn , does it really take that long to do it?

[rapid merlin]

Are you good with coding

[narrow yew]

I am one of those some

[untold sentinel]

they dont have customer service gang

[uneven kettle]

How

[narrow yew]

And I'm on the phone

[sand trench]

python would be the logical choice
javascript would be more of a challenge and kinda fun if you can figure out how to run it kinda client sided using xss
c would probably be the fastest scanner but compiled scanners have thier problems

[celest dirge]

I am a victim to "If you don't use it, you lose it" so give me a month to master my craft again.

[rapid merlin]

Jokes aside some people blocked me and I never even talked to them

[untold sentinel]

u are not him gang

[uneven kettle]

Where do contact them at

[rapid merlin]

Thank you shadow that really means a lot to me and yes, mind if I ping you or something if I encounter problems or I have something to ask?

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @sand trench (current: #3 - 2302)

[velvet gull]

Use Google

[uneven kettle]

ok

then?

[celest dirge]

Okay, but has this ever happened to you?

[velvet gull]

Gang im losing it

[rapid merlin]

It's okay brother the main thing is that we make a project from now until February

[untold sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/hand-on-shoulder-akakichi-no-eleven-everything-will-be-ok-my-brother-in-christ-we're-gonna-beat-you-gif-16692013677699419935

[sand trench]

well shadow themselves have never programmed a portscanner in anything but python... but sure could try and answer questions... now just wanna sleep sloop to beep boop while meep moop though

[rapid merlin]

Brutal

[celest dirge]

G'night shadow, may you sleep well!

[rapid merlin]

I hope shadow gets the best sleep ever

[untold sentinel]

bro

am i tripping?

im doing todays room , the one for cracking passwords and i run the "zip2john flag.zip > ziphash.txt" and it says command not found

wth

[grizzled sky]

cheers to all the dreamers, sleepwell!;

[sleek shell]

sudo

[untold sentinel]

im already root

[grizzled sky]

i've got a doctors appointment and then gonna eat a sandwhich and play games for a bit;

might work on thm later today too;

[sleek shell]

weird, idk then

[grizzled sky]

almost caught up on aoc now besides the sidequests;

[sleek shell]

the sidequests are such a rabbithole

[grizzled sky]

for sure;

its like me when i homelab;

i discover that 1 problem is actually 10000 problems;

[sturdy sequoia]

yer i had to quit after sq1. consumed too much of me

[grizzled sky]

and that infastructure is hard;

[sleek shell]

hah yeah

[grizzled sky]

i might skip sidequests and just play more with my homelab;

the aocs are nice and bite sized luckily;

[sturdy sequoia]

yer thats what im doing now

[sleek shell]

I finished sq1, and then stared into the void that was sq2 and back away slowly

[grizzled sky]

have i mentioned i am playing with data analytics and my google takeout?;

basically i found a tool in vs code that coverts most file types into md;

[sleek shell]

oh that's cool

[grizzled sky]

and so i am right now compiling all my data from my google take out into notes to create a personal media recomendation pipeline;

[sturdy sequoia]

is that the file type obsidian uses?

[grizzled sky]

yes but obsidian is closed source so i recomend logseq;

either way though md is ideal for llm training;

[sturdy sequoia]

ah cool

[grizzled sky]

and that makes it so it can automate my media recomendations and other fun ways to kill time;

https://tenor.com/view/okay-wow-this-feels-like-a-complete-waste-of-time-meaningless-activity-bad-use-of-time-nbc-gif-12829428

my life in a nutshell;

but its a fun waste;

[sturdy sequoia]

its not wasitng your time, its spending your time

[rapid merlin]

I'm interested

[pure steeple]

Give us an outline of what your plan is

[rapid merlin]

If it involves me giving you money to give me money back I'm in, if it's for free I don't want to

[bleak plank]

Dont you guys think THM should do a room for computing fundementals like basics hardware and how it actually works

[celest dirge]

Money??? I definitely need my robux giftcard 🤑

[grizzled sky]

i come back to super emoji parties;

[tropic sluice]

I think it does

[bleak plank]

Fr?

[grizzled sky]

a real tutorial or just memeing;

cause free code camp actually has a really good computer for literal people born under a rock;

its what i share to clients that are literally seniors that never used computers;

[tired peak]

they have a computer?

[grizzled sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2kg3MOk1sY

[bleak plank]

I mean looking into a computer lmao

[grizzled sky]

this one;

[tired peak]

oh a course

[grizzled sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7tlgZg4Q1o

i also give them this if they have adhd as well;

crash course computers is a good resource for new computer users too;

[bleak plank]

Does this cover most of everything u need tk know before getting into networking then cybersec?

[grizzled sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpIctyqH29Q&list=PL8dPuuaLjXtNlUrzyH5r6jN9ulIgZBpdo

[grizzled sky]

that's more for crash course levels;

[rapid merlin]

Tcm help desk is for free and covers all the topics of hardware

[grizzled sky]

if i were teaching a todler, id give them the first 2, then show them crash course in elementary school;

[bleak plank]

Yeah im signing up to TCM help desk

[rapid merlin]

Where's that guy that calls me tcm spy everytime I recommend a tcm course

[untold sentinel]

admins get this fo

[grizzled sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOjov-2OZ0E&pp=ygUnY29tcHV0ZXIgc2NpZW5jZSBoaXN0b3J5IGZyZWUgY29kZSBjYW1w

[rapid merlin]

Where are you from

[grizzled sky]

if they wanted to get into programming i'd show them this course;

[tired peak]

FreeCodeCamp is great, they have good free AWS courses too

[untold sentinel]

why

[grizzled sky]

and if they want to go into cyber i'd show them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47NRaBVxgVM&t=2673s&pp=ygUnY29tcHV0ZXIgc2NpZW5jZSBoaXN0b3J5IGZyZWUgY29kZSBjYW1w ;

[tired peak]

the CS50 course on EdX is good intro to comp sci course

[untold sentinel]

who is doing the side quests?

[rapid merlin]

Wild question

[grizzled sky]

#1444365547432186077

[rapid merlin]

There's a new side quest?

[tired peak]

today had more

[grizzled sky]

one of my first blog posts i want to make is a how would i teach people computers if i were a teacher;

[untold sentinel]

yeah

[grizzled sky]

and so i already have an exact road map of how they would learn everything i know so far;

[rapid merlin]

Did you complete the first one

[grizzled sky]

in addition to the cyber roadmap i am working through to learn cyber currently;

[bleak plank]

@rapid merlin TCM duration?

For u

[rapid merlin]

Wdym? How much that course takes?

[bleak plank]

YEs and the price

[tired peak]

free / youtube

[rapid merlin]

That course is for free

The one I gave you is for free

[bleak plank]

Appreciate it

[grizzled sky]

tldr infomation is free;

[bleak plank]

This sets me up for tryhackme i hope

[grizzled sky]

if you want to learn cyber, you don't have to pay a cent in theory besides maybe the certs;

[rapid merlin]

There's no one resource that it enough for everything

You need to look always for multiple sources

[grizzled sky]

you can literally do everything with a junk pc from a dump;

[bleak plank]

Theory will get u like half way

[sturdy sequoia]

yer back in the day we had to be self taught. not many resources were available

[rapid merlin]

YouTube literally have 100% of things these days

[grizzled sky]

the practical is mostly working with hardware, and there are libraries for exactly that;

[bleak plank]

"Back in the day" 👵

[grizzled sky]

you can get a helpdesk job to learn hardware pretty easy;

[rapid merlin]

I learned cyber for free but penetration testing needed money

[bleak plank]

What did u buy

[tired peak]

lots of free resources, even hands on resources

[grizzled sky]

food and water and shelter;

[rapid merlin]

Look at this course and rate it https://academy.tcm-sec.com/p/practical-help-desk

[sturdy sequoia]

its almost too easy to learn these days

[grizzled sky]

seems good, when i say getting a job in help desk i mean because some things you needs literally in person training to understand;

like how routing phystically works at the cable level and power draw;

those are things that are easiest to learn on job if you can find one;

and that can be as simple as what i did where i literally just went to retirement homes and put up poster for computer services as a kid;

[tired peak]

Completely free, what most help desk jobs will want you to know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENPflZS0Us4&list=PLG49S3nxzAnmBEJ6q9_0shRldwuJlHuUS

[grizzled sky]

if you want hands on experience for free and you live in any metropolitan city its endless free work to train yourself on foundations;

messer is fantastic too;

also seniors are often some of the most forgiving clients in my experience;

[rapid merlin]

Is there help desk certs that are credible?

[grizzled sky]

especially if your prices are fair;

[rapid merlin]

Never heard of a help desk cert except that A+

[grizzled sky]

there are exceptions but generally speaking retirement homes are chill places to learn it in;

[tired peak]

A+ seems to be only one

[grizzled sky]

helpdesk in most cities don't require a cert;

just the knowledge from a+;

[rapid merlin]

A+ have been dead for years people don't look at it anymore

[tired peak]

in the US they do

[oblique loom]

Bug bounty didnt pay up

[grizzled sky]

if you learn the test subjects and never get certified that's more than enough for most of the world;

[oblique loom]

Bastards

[tired peak]

I'm not saying only A+ won't get you a job but plenty of places will require it

[grizzled sky]

usa and canada are the rare exceptions and that depends if you are working corporate help desk;

[rapid merlin]

I can lend a help desk job without a cert?

[grizzled sky]

easiest cert to get a job is ccna atm;

[rapid merlin]

Why

[grizzled sky]

at least in north america;

[tired peak]

even ccna won't guarantee you a job

[sturdy sequoia]

yer ive worked with people who got a help desk job fresh out of high school

[grizzled sky]

if you have a ccna or a security+, you're usually set if you actually find the employers;

[rapid merlin]

My uni gives all Cisco certs for free, I'll get it in February

[tired peak]

not in the US

[oblique loom]

Because the server I tested was their customer's server and not their responsibility.

And here's the interesting part. They are a website hosting company

[grizzled sky]

finding employers is the problem atm;

[celest dirge]

Speaking of jobs and employers, introducing a new certification for... drums rolls please... the unemployed.

[grizzled sky]

because of a lot of it hiring managers being scum lately;

[tired peak]

finding employers who want to hire you is a problem

[grizzled sky]

i know this too well, i am applying as we speak;

[tired peak]

there are thousands of candidates for every job

[strong fjord]

Ayooo thanks imma put this in my resume

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @celest dirge (current: #172 - 57)

[grizzled sky]

i'm saying in terms of actually getting a job though you don't need a bachelors at least;

[rapid merlin]

Did you try bugcroud or whatever its name was

[celest dirge]

You're very much welcome!

[grizzled sky]

that's still better than a lot of trades that are explicitly cert locked;

[bright stone]

is solving all "Hard" crypto pico CTF challenges considerd flex (: ?

[oblique loom]

No, I found the server from a Shodan query

[grizzled sky]

in canada to work in foods you have to get foodsafe;

[tired peak]

except if an employer wants a bachelors, but basically right now there are a lot of highly qualified people applying for jobs and companies may not even look at you if you don't have a bachelors

[grizzled sky]

same with even being a barista;

[rapid merlin]

Try bugcrowd or a known site and tell us about it

[grizzled sky]

compared to that, the amount of certification in it is relatively low;

at least at the entry level;

the problem is work experience nowadays;

and finding employers;

but that's true of literally every industry;

[oblique loom]

Tbh, I kinda like my current method of just emailing and contacting the companies

[grizzled sky]

even getting a barista job is tough in many cities;

we're at the brink of a recession;

[rapid merlin]

Go get them king, we're all chanting for you

[strong fjord]

[grizzled sky]

grats!;

[oblique loom]

Its hard work, and not all the times you find something. But when you do its a good feeling

[strong fjord]

More work to do 💪

[oblique loom]

From my exp, Redis services have little to no security implementation

[rapid merlin]

What's redis

[oblique loom]

Lole shooting fish in a barrel

Like*

[oblique loom]

Data structure store used as a database within ram instead of disk so its faster services

[grizzled sky]

llm bug bounties are extremely good atm;

most companies have never heard of even basic input validation;

[rapid merlin]

Thank you for explaining

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @oblique loom (current: #365 - 22)

[grizzled sky]

they usually don't pay well but there's A LOT of llms that are insecure atm;

[oblique loom]

You know what you do when you find a no credentials Redis?

KEYS *
FLUSHALL
SHUTDOWN

The last 2 being in that order.

You'll cause some ruckus alright lol

You can even go a whole step better and get RCE

[tired peak]

why you telling someone that has no concept of redis that?

[oblique loom]

Its called learning

Its called the reason for this server

Teach each other

[pure steeple]

Mmm looks like sabotage to me

[tired peak]

if you think you are teaching, then I think you are a bit misguided... first I'd have someone go try it out if they cared to learn about redis, not that they expressed an interest

[oblique loom]

K

[tired peak]

and Penderrin is right, if you do something like that on a system with no credentials, it is likely out of scope

[oblique loom]

I swear I gove input and all the time this place

Give

Nothing wrong with talking about this stuff

This is a cybersec server

[tired peak]

there is something wrong about talking about stuff that goes into the destruction territory

[oblique loom]

I legit write malware and share how it works with yall when I know you will never use it

[tired peak]

that is what #exploit-and-mal-studies is for

[rapid merlin]

Oooooooo you're the one that I need

[strong fjord]

ayooo u guys ready for the new avengers trailer

[rapid merlin]

I asked a question about that earlier and no one gave me a good answer

[strong fjord]

it might come out sometime this week hell yeah

[pure steeple]

Says [No Access]. Elaborate?

[tired peak]

its a malware studies channel, once you get a certain level you can access it, reason being is they don't want malware discussions in general channels

[sharp citrus]

Discord: What Are the Advanced Channels?

Article Link

https://help.tryhackme.com/en/articles/8671900-discord-what-are-the-advanced-channels

Dec 10, 2025, 12:58 AM

[rapid merlin]

So I'm into red teaming and I know coding but I don't know how to combine them together I'm pretty good in C, python, JavaScript but idk how to make anything with them in cybersecurity
How can I learn how to make malwares or any tools or anything? What do I need to learn?

[pure steeple]

Thank you @tired peak @tropic sail @oblique loom

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @tired peak (current: #19 - 548)

Gave +1 Rep to @oblique loom (current: #356 - 23)

Gave +1 Rep to @tropic sail (current: #2207 - 2)

[tired peak]

exploit development is what you want to look for, there are plenty of resources online

[rapid merlin]

Can you maybe give me one or two if it doesn't bother you

Or a thm room

[oblique loom]

Ok, there are a lot of answers to this and it really depends.

For me, I double-encode the payloads within the malware so AV doesn't flag it

[tired peak]

you want me to google exploit development courses? OffSec has a couple

OpenSecurity.info has a variety of resources

[oblique loom]

I haven't tested it in terms of execution

But I have planted it

[rapid merlin]

I want to start with something begginer friendly so what do you suggest

[keen lark]

Guy how do I type this on my keyboard ^

[rapid merlin]

Free ones?

[strong fjord]

I'm not sure if this contains malware development hehe but imma drop this here

[tired peak]

OpenSecurity yes

[keen lark]

Pls

[pure steeple]

Humble Bundle has a book bundle going on right now btw

[rapid merlin]

I forgot but it's in the right of p

[tired peak]

it helps to learn reverse engineering although reverse engineering and exploit development are 2 different things

[rapid merlin]

Thank you all

[keen lark]

I have that book everything you learn there is completely oudatet it gives you python scripts that really don't work anymore

✌🏻

[tired peak]

this does look solid
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/hacking-no-starch-books

[strong fjord]

Don't they release a new edition every two years?

[keen lark]

No?

Do you plan to buy it?

[strong fjord]

Not yet

[pure steeple]

Here's a short bite size piece:

• Go to : Malware Analysis - Egg-xecutable
• Get the hophelper.exe
• Find out how to de-compile it
• Look inside and see what it's doing
• Send us a 5 page report by next week

[oblique loom]

What malware are you trying to do? Backdoor? Worm? Ransomware-type code?

Or are you maybe looking for a demo malware program?

[boreal scarab]

[rapid merlin]

I just want to create projects cuz all the time I was using tools and I'm studying software engineering I'm pretty good at coding so I said why don't I learn how to code I cybersecurity

[boreal scarab]

Btop does look really nice

[keen lark]

Don't buy it twin I know what Im talking about I made the same mistake

[tired peak]

you can do cybersecurity coding without doing malware

[strong fjord]

Dw twin imma buy the linux basics one for christmas

[rapid merlin]

Yeah I said earlier I want just to put things in my GitHub cuz it's empty

Red team or blue team I'm up to it

[keen lark]

?

[keen lark]

You mean that one

[tired peak]

there are plenty of scripts and what not you can develop

[strong fjord]

Yeah

Imma add it to my starch prress collection

[rapid merlin]

Can you explain more please

[pure steeple]

Do some rooms and CTFs. Think about the tasks you do over and over. Write a script to automate some of it.

[tired peak]

so... think of kali... all those scripts and programs on it, someone coded those

Burpsuite, Metasploit, JackTheRipper

[oblique loom]

Ah, well in that case you dont habe to male malware specifically.

You can make port scanners, directory scans, or auto brute-force w/ a wordlist

Test

Stupid Discord

[keen lark]

Jack

[oblique loom]

But yea, you dont have to make just malware

You can do other cool stuff

[tired peak]

there is also a lot of work in things like anomaly detection, Splunk, Snort, Suricata, all of those are applications

you don't even have to code an entire application yourself, there are tons of open source projects you can contribute to

[rapid merlin]

The problem is I don't know how to combine networks and python as an example

[strong fjord]

Yo I wanna hear your thoughts yall

So basically my uni has partnered with Codepath for a cyber bootcamp this summer but I feel like it would be a waste of time. Do I give it a shot? or stick to thm and htb

[pure steeple]

https://requests.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

[tired peak]

well test it out, get a python book, write a client/server application... tada, python networking

[tired peak]

is it free? or does it cost extra?

[strong fjord]

Free

[rapid merlin]

Thank you

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @tired peak (current: #19 - 549)

[tired peak]

I mean free learning is hard to pass up, especially if you are working with other people locally

[rapid merlin]

What's this

[pure steeple]

Python + Networking

[strong fjord]

it's a virtual bootcamp

[median birch]

dude usually their like $5k if its free that sounds worth it

[tired peak]

so virtual bootcamp, that is free, what happens if you start and drop out?

[strong fjord]

nothing

[rapid merlin]

Should I put those silly little projects in my GitHub or it's useless

[tired peak]

and will other students be taking it with you?

[tired peak]

why not try it then? sounds like no risk

[tropic sail]

downside not detected

[median birch]

put on github and linkedin

[strong fjord]

yeah it's international

[odd mulch]

why not? when you build things more complex you can hide the shit ones if your ashamed of them. Or leave em there to showcase how you progressed

[strong fjord]

aight I'll think about it... it's a first come first serve lol so I might not be able to get in now. thanks

[tired peak]

I mean generally I think bootcamps are scammy but thats cuz they cost $$$ but I'd put my name in for free stuff

[rapid merlin]

I'll make sure to do, thank you

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @odd mulch (current: #3399 - 1)

[strong fjord]

Oh yeah and they get a cert once they finish it. so yeah thank you

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @tired peak (current: #19 - 550)

[odd mulch]

i have an android app in map that i was super proud of when i built it when I was learning android. Its an atrocious thing. It has so many memory leaks that renders your phone unusable if you flip it like 20 times

and its still there. To remind myself that memory leaks are bad

[oblique loom]

They are kinda scammy

I did one

Kinda

Long story

I did the "demo run"

[rapid merlin]

is it worth it?

[oblique loom]

For office work stuff, yea

RAM is pretty good

SSD kinda small imo

(I use M2s)

How many i7 cores?

Is it quad?

Quad and above is good

[boreal scarab]

No

I rocked a T14s Gen 1? Gen 2? At my old corpo job. It's soldered in ram, you can't remove it

[rapid merlin]

ram is alr 32 gb

[boreal scarab]

Alright, what happens when your ram is bad? And you BSoD constantly?

[rapid merlin]

4-core, 8-thread

[boreal scarab]

Ask me how I know

[oblique loom]

Its not a bad modern office laptop

[boreal scarab]

My Resume now:

Windows 10: 70+
Windows 11: 5
Windows 7: 3
CentOS: 2
Kali: 3
Arch: 3
Mint: 2
Wifi Pineapple: 2
Jabba's Spotify: 1
Jabba's Discord Spoiler Text: 1
Mage's Discord: 1
Shadow's Dragonbox Pyra: 1
Shadow's Dragonbox OpenPandora: 8
Toaster's RSS Reader: 1
OpenIV: 3
Fedora: 1

70+ is from that fucking Thinkpad

[oblique loom]

Actually a bit better than the typical office laptop

[rapid merlin]

i need one for uni thats good for cybersecurity & running multiple vms etc

im a cybersec undergrad student

[boreal scarab]

Look into the P1 series, it's more money, but they're still a workhorse

[rapid merlin]

whats the best thinkpad

my budget is around 500

[boreal scarab]

That's my suggestion, I know multiple desktop engineers who used the P1, I think I used a P15s

P15s is still great!

[boreal scarab]

T14s is still great, I can't speak on the VM running, didn't do it on my T14s

[tired peak]

you'll need one with more RAM, of course RAM right now is $$$

[rapid merlin]

thats the issue

one i found is 32gb

[tired peak]

yeah its a pretty old processor, but for $500 its going to be a challenge

usually in that price point AMD will do you better

oh its not as old as I thought, says it came out in 2020

I would think it is probably fine

[rapid merlin]

yea hows the processor

[pure steeple]

Worth a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HgAN5cEmkk

[tired peak]

well except if they need a laptop

[pure steeple]

Sure. It's more about the thought process of how he goes about picking the components and such.

You could also run a desktop and then VPN or SSH back to it from a (lower spec) laptop, and you'd get experience with the networking?

[sturdy sequoia]

thats what i do for my home lab

old laptop vnc to an rpi

[tired peak]

or be like me, spin up a server in the cloud if you need something, depends what you trying to do

[dusky snow]

hi

[rapid merlin]

what a username

@tired peak worth it!?

[tired peak]

thats the same one

honestly, its fine, you should be able to do the things you want to do with it

[floral ice]

not bad

[tired peak]

I think someone said earlier you can do a ton with a laptop found in a dumpster, I know its stressful because its an investment and you want to make sure you have the right thing for school, but that should be able to do anything you need it to do

[sturdy sequoia]

what?

[tired peak]

@umbral bay someone has something juicy

[silver osprey]

Hey guys I am using Asus zenbook 14 Intel ultra 5 with just 8 gb ram 512 gb ssd

[tired peak]

I don't want to ask what they have

[sturdy sequoia]

wtf are you talking about

[tired peak]

donotbet

[tired peak]

maybe crypto scam, maybe mabelline

[silver osprey]

We should start from what we have

[pure steeple]

She looks so human though

Maybe we should be nice in case they take over the world

[sturdy sequoia]

haha. scammers need to be a lot more clear. no wonder theyre all so desperate

[tired peak]

they bankrolling the world it sounds like

[tired peak]

sounds good

of course if you realling building the bankroll, you wouldn't be posting in discord, you'd be out there spending your monies

[silver osprey]

But 8 gb ram is one of the big headache

[tired peak]

yup, if you can upgrade, it'll be a good thing

[pure steeple]

!!

[tired peak]

easter, so overrated

[pure steeple]

eggactly

[opal frost]

Hi

[tropic sluice]

Heli

[leaden marsh]

Guys I'm so sad

What the idor md5

Its so hard

[rapid merlin]

Shhhht

[tropic sluice]

Huh

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-stfu-blah-blah-gif-13070641

[tropic sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680459914828972076/1446290474485809376/image0.gif

[dark wolf]

Blib digu 9 fuyoto

[grave locust]

https://tenor.com/view/elio-lizard-button-gif-10528652411096742370

Morning/evening

[lone sierra]

just discovered that you can turn off echo

[lone sierra]

so cute

[rapid merlin]

How

[boreal scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/gecko-cherry-lizard-reptile-cute-gif-9434898787563817780

[rapid merlin]

Is it a jailbreak or what