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mafia boss who controls everything from inside ahh
login info and cookies separate u wont be able to login with cookies, cookies has other purposes (useful ones mostly ๐) and cookies encrypted with that websites panel or whatever
aint that easy to take em either
just dont use weak password
know what i mean
@rapid merlinello
now i want a cookie
yes

what do you want to say
i found some shorbread. close enough
yes i knew then what the attacker do on the cookies
no i mean
.
Hey guys, Im trying to download nessus and the video tutorial I was watching, featured nessus essentials, which in my case I don't even have that option. The videos Im watching are a bit old and dont treat the problem. Doesn anyone here knows the solution or that can point me to the right direction?
the nessus website probably has an installation guide
where u wanna download it
Ye, but the thing is that I want nessus essentials and when Im prompted which version do I need are only: nessus expert and professional, which are paid versions
I went to the official site
no i mean u wanna download it to linux or windows
When you log in to a website (like Gmail, Facebook, or Discord), the site doesnโt ask for your password every time you click something. Instead, it gives your browser a cookie โ a small file that proves โthis is you, already logged in.โ
๐ If an attacker somehow steals that cookie from your browser and loads it into their own browser:
The website will think they are you.
They can open the site and be logged into your account right away, without typing your password or 2FA code.
Thatโs why cookie theft is dangerous โ itโs like someone copying the key to your house. They donโt need your fingerprint (password) anymore; they just use the copied key (cookie).
this is what chatgpt is saying
linux
thats not quite accurate. i wouldnt go to chatgpt to answer your questions
cookie is just a verification that u are that person
hallucinations
dang i thought they had the fast download from terminal but no
sometimes i hear voices
its not the download that gives me the problem but the license, I want the free version not the paid one.
so its a verification and when this passed to another browser then the attacker can login to our accounts because he has verified himself as us
Its called nessus essentials and I saw it on the video tutorial but thats a bit outdated so when I go there the essentials are not even an option anymore lol.
dude... if he can login to ur account he doesnt need the cookie omg thats not easy to steal you know what i mean cookies encrypted but if he has ur login info ofc new cookie created and now site thinks that hacker is u
Hello, is it me or are rooms not showing target IPs once machines are deployed
does the NSA spy on everyone?
no
no
no
wait i cant find free version either...
what if someone here works for the NSA
Thats what Im saying ๐ญ
there might be. but so what?
are women real?
ig got fully payed...
ask chatgpt
what tool do u use for vuln scanning that is free?
but fr what if im a terrorist does that mean im being watched?
i was thinking of using nessus either ๐ญ
i thought nessus was still free with kali
idk we cant find free version
When Im prompted on installation which version do I need I only see these 2 ๐ญ
Yes and when u follow it u still dont see it in the prompt lol
1 Year - $4,390
dayum
their faq says its free
"Nessusยฎ Essentials is free to use to scan any environment, but it is limited to 16 IP addresses per scanner. It is ideal for educators, students, and anyone starting out in cyber security. "
wait i found it
I download it and follow it, when I go to register offline, I dont see the nessus essentials
it says u gotta fill a form and receive 1 year license activation code...
so temp free ๐ญ
you're gonna make me install it
well if u do and find what Im looking for Ill owe u one
Im just a beginner guys ๐
i assume the issue is beyond this page
yes
so what if he decrypts the cookies
IT IS NOT THAT EASY YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
after that I chose register offline as per the tutorial and then I dont see the essentials option @tired wolf
okay as you say
he has ur login > he logs in > new cookie > site thinks him is u
ur cookies not safe even if theyre encrypted everyone selling ur cookies to everyone
chrome, facebook, utub, tikgram, instatok
we share the same server that Im facing the problem in, Im trynna get PNPT certified and Im going through the PEH course lol
LMFAO
To summarise, you don't need to worry about someone stealing your cookies
install free stuff to buy omg
Is it a separate download?
type shi
They are scamming us fr
nay
fr
That sucks
Thanks for helping guys, especially @tired wolf that actually went through it!
Gave +1 Rep to @tired wolf (current: #1270 - 4)
Is there an open source competitor to nessus?
Can metasploit scan or does that just exploit?
thm down?? room's ip not showing
I just found the awesome Linux priv esc list. This is gonna be so useful. Why didn't I find this sooner
I quickly saw it, I think u have to fill out a form and request it
guys???
lemme test that real quick
Also experiencing the same issue
But how do I know which rooms to do ๐ค
which room r u facing problems tho cause I cant find one to replicate the issue
tried 2-3 dif rooms
same issue on all of em
ok just name one so I can replicate it
whichever ones you want
same issue here in easy rooms, including basic pentesting
samme issue
how can we let devs know? do they already know? any announcement?
hey can anyone tell me why my machine ip not showing after start machine after 2 minutes....?
we r going through the same problem
we ALL (as in you and me)
hey so i got this problem where it doesnt show me the ip address of the target machine in tryhackme it shows me the copy button but even when i press nothing gets copied is this a server problem that ishould just wait for or my problem :
oh okay universal
oh but now its showing
same for me
thank you! I pray u have a blessed day!
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oh thanks man u too ๐ญ
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thats my dilemma in cyber sec , having too many options to do the same thing
its much better than having not enough
u just have to try them all out and figure which one u like best
thats actually good thing
yea fair enough
fr
exactly
back in my day.....
really ? thought it was more of a situation based rather than just personal preference
id love to hear that!
manual sql injection aah vibe
nah man thats actually good thing to have more tools because they're complete one anothers lacks
oh i could tell so many stories
fr, u find one thing with one and one more with the other
thank u i understand
pray tell
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inject sql with syringe
exactly
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there were no youtube tutorials, no online test machines, no ethical hacker forums. it was all word of mouth and test it yourself
good old times
WE ALL have it easy now fr
defcon and 2600 were still small (especially where i live). the hacker groups were quite private and it took actual knowledge to gain more knowledge
back when I had to stackoverflow something instead of chatgpt-ing it
correct me if am wrong but werent systems too very very weak in security compared to today
idk back than someday maybe it was good
i have a physcial book that i bought in a physical book store
lol u such a troll
yer less secure but harder to be a script kiddie
It's a bug, a patch should be live for it soon
damn that mustve SUCKED
There we go, sorry bout that Jabba. Anyhow, how're you 
what my cat does at 7am
exactly
it was definitely a different experience to now. one thing im thankful for is actually having to understand everything rather than asking ai or a chat room with thousands of people
Bit of a headache but alright nevertheless.
How are you? Up to anything interesting?
just discussing the olden days
3am*
I have this cybersecurity club today 
Hopefully they can help with this one NCL problem. Speaking of which, are there any THM rooms that explain anything related to hex and analyzing a hex dump?
Does anyone else have the problem when you're waiting for something and you can't do anything until that thing is done?
Every day 
imagine finding a toy in a cereal box that can be used to make free payphone calls. it was a crazy time to be alive
Also, congratulations on your rankup Shyft
๐ฅณ ๐ฅณ ๐ฅณ ๐ฅณ!!!
id say everyday
thanks. i didnt even notice the colour change
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oooo Cyber club, what do you get up to in that?
I can't think of any rooms off the top of my head ๐ sorry
All's good, but they do like an NCL module every week or so. Though, I have gotten better at understanding awk with the help of Vigor and GPT 
I'm trying to minmax my methods to make them the most efficient
wireshark was ethereal, kali was backtrack, aircrack was still aircrack ๐
I only ask because something is happening on Tuesday and it's completely taken over my brain, I just want to bed rot and wait
Run by students I assume?
Oh? I'm sorry to hear that! I hope it's nothing bad
Yup
I also do bed rot in such situations ๐คฃ
guys i heard
Hello KGB!

Can aircrack attack or find drone Signals?
What certs do you plan on getting next KGB?
Prime day ๐ ๐ Feels pathetic just waiting
But alas I must work and earn a paycheck
if those signals are wifi, maybe
Nah, it's not pathetic. I'm happy that you have something to look forward to. ๐
Certs are on pause for now ๐ . Already have a few , haven't seen any bemefits yet ๐
Have you learned anything new recently?
It's, hopefullly, a new PC
to slap on my resume
I hope that it is! 
I want practice the topics that I complete

I'm over budget by ยฃ400
There's this older Christmas movie that has this one inspirational song that applies to cyber and mostly everything else. It's from this movie called santa claus is coming to town where the song is "put one foot in front of the other."
Are you able to pay bills and stuff?
Like you're not bankrupt or anything right?
Yes yes don't worry ๐
My partner has given me some money for part of it which has helped a lot
Not that I need it, I think she just feels bad cause of how sad I was when my tower stopped working ๐
She's a cutie, I begrugendly accepted her money
I hope that everything goes swimmingly for you and your purchase Jabba 
I'm super super excited to buy it
I'm excited for you! 
hey can anyone tell me why my kali not connected to tryhackme through openvpn
I was out with my tech club friends and I have to say, they're way more fun than my literary club friends not even joking
Can you ping 10.10.10.10?
Did you previously connect and forget to close that session?
Sometimes you might have to kill that previous process to start a new one
we got a cybersec club i applied didnt get selected cuz i am a junior

I laughed so hard with them that I felt I was dying
With literary club friends, I have to be careful about my jokes so much that I don't say some dark joke
Damn
Those are the best kind of friends
IKR
I have friends that are like that and it's always a fun time
I love the tech club I'm a part of
It's a bit small but the quality of people is just insanely good and better than other tech clubs of college
I have a friend that I send the most effed up reels to and we just send them to each other
Yea that kind of friendship is best
Quality over quantity is good
Yea
You can really understand them as people
I was in like 3 tech clubs on the e-board in my previous college
The entire club built the college website and we manage it
One of which was my own club 
Nicee
Too bad it's dead
Awww
If we had like 4-5 more years we could turn that shit into a powerhouse
We had some fun
It's alright
Good things seldom last long
I made 3 ctfs for that club
The 1st one, I didn't realize that AWS doesn't like ubuntu 24
Currently , checking up typescript and mongodb
Let's gooo
I hope that's going well for you!
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I am online for the first time today lol
how is everybody ๐
good, had my coding class, learned a new data structure (that I actually didn't learn on purpose cuz it never really comes up)
thanks for the review... yeah still gotta expand on some stuff and order it better while adding more boxes to check off
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D ALL OF THE ABOVE!!!!!!!
what does this 5 months free discount is about?
pekaboo
i pay 95.50euros for 12 months
closet
THat is not for you
i dont get you
@mossy river could you explain
I actually don't understand it myself lol
i mean every once a month there is a yearly discout
every month the same discount
whats different this time
you pay for an annual plan but get effectively 17 months of access for the price of 12.
thats not it
from what I heard from Jabba
It could be
what I remember
is that it was not 5 extra months, but 5 free months
what I'm not sure about is how that is calculated
so its just for marketing purposes
Then you buy 7 and get 5
๐คท
Well what is the price for this deal
I cant see the price since I have a sub
Or where they drunk when they made the add
from โฌ10.50/month its โฌ7.88
which is 25% off
i will just wait for black friday
I assue it is explained further up from past days if you just look.
no no it ok i got it
Hello Matt! 
Matt friends
welcome
You think it would be cheaper
tnxs
anyone seen comet-perplexity.ai? offers too good of a reward in discord quests, I wonder how much data they are vacuuming
๐ downloaded new ai-browser, kept it for 15min, deleted everything, hit them with GDPR request ๐
cant wait for new fireship video....
i did the same
I had a look at this.
The 5months you "get" is based out of pay per month price not annual 12month price
Welcome!

tnxs
@cloud quiver
Done!
Done ๐
Thank you! 
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5000 internet points
I wonder if i can use a VM for the quest
install discord on a vm and do it
lmao
~5eur / client adds up fast
to be fair some banks offer up to 50 for registering, but yeah, I dont trust it
or maybe download the browser on my host and then block it with firewall and keep it open to do the quest
@cloud quiver
Done!
how are unverified users posting images
it just stops embeds afaik
best of luck, to delete account is one click with 30days data deletion prommise (gdpr compliant), and gdpr requests seems to be simple to make. .com/datarequest
dont post my guns.... dont post my guns
i'm not in europe so i'm not protected by gdpr
Hello
im just interested how much they got on me during 15min...
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some things are better, some are worse
could you let me know, when they reach out to you
i'm curious
just seen someone with a HTB hoodie in my unie
buy em a coffee
hello people
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very interesting
offer them an USB
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@torn olive how'd u calculate the 5 euro thingy
way gift not working
if youre asking why the gif wasnt working its because you need to verify your account
it offers 5k points, DC store equals around 7eur, - im assuming they paying way less 5< (?)
oh i removed that when I changed my email. i think
i would think that they have some kind of deal with discord rather than paying for each
i mean, possible, thats still monetary value
yeah but its not the same as they'd have to pay 5 euros for everyone who does the quest. they likely have a deal with discord that i'll u pay u guys x dollars, and in return you'll publish this quest
they're likely paying more than the 700 orbs quests but it doesn't mean they have to pay 5 eur for each customer
that still has an equilibrium of X per person
Need more screens.
sup sup
likely I wont forget, so Ill try to let you know, - takes a month tho
hello
whats this
any python developers
Any good ctfs / vuln labs for Wordpress? Or some kinda docker image I can pull down thatโs intentionally vulnerable and a good representation of how people are using wp these days?
Hi I connected thru openvpn when I try to go to the target machines website http://targetmachineip it loads forever
Anyone knows why?
DId you power it up
try to ping the machine ip and see if your properly connected to the openvpn
Did you start the machine? You need to start to generate the ip
Guys of course I turned the machine on
And yes I was connected to the VPN
Don't know why it just didn't want to work
Then why does it say http://targetmachineip/
That's an example
it changes when it has an actual IP Address
I know it had an actual ip
I pressed on it and it just loaded forever
And after some time the website timed out
I need coffee
I found the same issue on reddit
did you ping it?
ill ping you
@narrow yew
Yo
Ok
Hey
Hey
Better to report all gif kids
Why I cannot post anything here
cause youre a racist
you need to verify your account
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@mossy river being racist to indians
no
You both Indians?
Yo
You know deleting your message just makes it look worse right?
it is worse
Don't do racism

We are all human
@undone kiln answer my question
there should be a no tolerance on racism
Yes
@rapid merlin has been warned.
Who is gravity ๐
You were muted for provoking community members, would you prefer to be also put on a final warning? ๐ค
HOW TF HE CAN CALL ME A PAJEET
He didnโt call you a pajeet.
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See the logs
Yo this is a first degree racism
His message wasnโt directed at anyone hence the warning and not immediate ban
He asked in GENERAL, not targeted as a specific person
This message was intentionally
Please avoid mini-modding
Ok
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Is is petrol or diesel?
Yesn't
Appreciated
@mossy river can you tell me why I cannot post anything in this server
raw crude oil
Oh my
youve already been told
You havenโt verified your account #start-here
It has those carbon chunks, right?
Can you direct me the link
Please
its right there
๐ธ
are you trolling?
Whats with little kids and trying to relate to adults? Like i'm working on ipads, and the kids feel the need to tell me they have ipads
I swear, it's like they're on autopilot telling you stories lol
no, I had the same problem until someone directed me to how to verify my account. Lol.
they were told minutes earlier. then literally replied to a link asking for a link
@limber linden
Sup chat
Yeah I did the same thing too because I couldn't understand what I was supposed to do and I also explained that I haven't done things like this in a long time so I was a little confused.
@sturdy sequoia this is what I got too and took a while to get it sorted out.
i was just alluding to the fact that they literally asked the same question and got the same answer. it sounded like they were trolling
anyway
what are you expecting them to talk about, are they going to talk about RF frequency modulation or something lol
YES!
Anything but telling me they have an iPad case like the one iPad i'm holding has
I. DO. NOT. CARE.
we are in the last day of the dino run 2 kickstarter
looks like we hit some stretch goals but not all D:
what is it?
old flash game where you run from the wall of doom after the astroid that killed the dinos hit
this is the sequel made in unity
they have a lot of stuff planned and some stuff already working
ohhhhh
like the no internet dino
They put on a video for the kids to keep them occupied... it's working on me.
kinda but better...
been a long time since i have played it
put on darknet diaries lol
ice cream please
I actually meet Jack at DC33
if you wanna check out the kickstarter
cool
pixeljam are the good guys :D
anyone wanna vc?
who did you not meet at defcon??? :P
i'm so bored
He signed my duck badge!
I'm Duck Rhysider. And this is Ducknet Diaries
I meet Jack Rhysider, Ryan Montgomery, Deviant Ollam
I was busy this year lol
no more left ๐ฅ
does he still wear the bandana
Yep, you see 0 parts of his face. He hides it all
fair
is jack even his real name lol
it is 3am and there is like a fucking duck or something making sounds that sound like a duck
outside
Guys why tryhack content don't make me professional at cyber security and Dont deep in vulnabilitys
what?
Probably not lol
kinda sounds like a duck being attacked by a large rat or something
THAT'S DUCK RHYSIDER!
RAT RHYSIDER!
Could also be cat rhysider
Now you're getting it!!
is there anyone can hack fr?
Wdym
I havenโt uses unity in years and i just got a vulnerability report which is interesting
well seems shadow "fixed" 1 problem but now got new problem :P
i mean who knows how to hack a person
Thats Social Engineering
.
HI
hlo
SATORI SEDAI YORU WASHUKAI
holy tough storm we have omg
hello people
I am solving OWASP juice shop
and i think this room is bugged
it doesn't want to give me the flags for the XSS's
can someone help?
ty
@small kernel
t'as dis quoi dans mon dos ?
english only pls
why ?
cause its the rules
k
man no one is helping lol
the room is literally broken
It's all voluntary, there is no expectation for anyone to help you ๐
Ping a moderator please, don't mini-mod
my apologies
No worries ๐
Mhm of course
so
hmm
do u get any kind of certif by doing the portswigger labs
instead of paying that 99$
oh oh alr ty
echo "enable privacy extensions for ipv6 in networkmanager"
echo "[connection]" > /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-ip6-privacy.conf
echo "ipv6.ip6-privacy=2" >> /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-ip6-privacy.conf
echo "disable connectivity check in networkmanager"
echo "[connectivity]" > /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/11-connectivity-check-disable.conf
echo "enabled=false" >> /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/11-connectivity-check-disable.conf
work in progress much :D
probably better ways to do this actually but whatever


Portswigger shows how many labs you have completed and stuff you can post it on socials to show how dedicated you have been
Hello if anyone can get me a $15 steam gift card i can paypal them 50$ but i need it quick, pls dm me
Hey guys, anyone recommend a quality VPN for hiding your IP.
Use case?
Wild suggestion, use the $50 to buy a Steam Giftcard?
why you wish to hide you ip for start
Nah as in why do you need a VPN? What you gonna use it for?
and don't just say hiding my IP
I'm going to hack Amazon.
Oh fascinating
ask @gusty inlet ... and that sounds illega
Just curious. I was watching the Youtube guy who hacks people. He said he uses Nord VPN.
Please standby, a senior adviser will be with you shortly
you think to hack amazon, and i can't hack my own lab and get banned by fail2ban
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Jeez....I can barely get through John the Ripper on basic.....๐คฃ
by hide you ip in sense doing bad things, vpn will not do you good... for start
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holy sh8
I would love to do what that guy does - on Scammer Payback. Those videos are awesome.
That's still a criminal offence
He must do it with law enforcement.
We don't discuss or engage in such activities
I wonder how else he does it?
No they literally don't
you know that he have many legal things in backend by doing that. he is not doing that for the lolz
Is he not? But 4 million hits!
Doesn't mean it's legal
8 million subscribers!
sub/hits means nothing. illegal is illegal
I could hit the front page of the news for a crime and be seen by millions but doesn't mean it's legal because so many people saw it
I guess I'll never know.
I'm telling you now, it's not legal
I know. I was just curious.
my advice. is to be carefull with words. this is cyber sec discord
And there are those who work in law enforcement here.....
guess #start-here and #rules is nice place to go with
And more than likely three letter agencies too
Thanks for your advice ๐
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So what are the rules on port mapping?
If it's your network or a network you have a legal contract with, sure.
Random network is a no no
That's active recon. Only if your have written permission from the owner
I guess that's how professional Penetration Testers do it then?
- is legally approwed
Not even written permission, a legally binding contract that has been reviewed by solicitors
Don't get yourself stung
Ok, fair enough
And also make sure you have adequate insurance.
getting visited by 3 letter agencies is not fun....
Or getting sued for millions because you fucked up
tru tru
Your honor I didn't mean to
link it pls
Slides Here: https://defcon.org/images/defcon-22/dc-22-presentations/Zoz/DEFCON-22-Zoz-Dont-Fuck-It-Up-UPDATED.pdf
Don't Fuck It Up!
Zoz ROBOTICS ENGINEER
Online antics used to be all about the lulz; now they're all about the pervasive surveillance. Whether you're the director of a TLA just trying to make a booty call or an internet entrepren...
oh.. the guy who decide to find his laptop ๐
most likely if you port scan a big entity, they won't sue you / get a 3 letter agency visit... cause most likely they get port scan a crazy amount of time per day that they can't take action against everyone.. Probably they will simply block IP / automatically set some extra rule for your IP to block / rate limit / audit for more suspicious activity, and as you get more persisting and attempt more stuff, they will probably escalate to more drastic legal action
Most enterprise have IPS that are configured to log/audit/enforce different set of action on different pattern/behaviour (Like port scan / fuzzing around / trying to inject known exploit... for example STI, SQL injection and other). The more you persist/poke hard, the more they will look at you closely and may react with legal action
AKA its a bad idea to attack an enterprise cause what you think is just gentle/for fun / think has no consequence may at some point go above their tolerence threshold and trigger legal action. They will notice, they have the tool to monitor. You don't know what is their tolerance threshold...
Same guy
That was also a good talk
And so was this one:
https://youtu.be/fWk_rMQiDGc?si=bV_PMErfCPG6HYA7
Samy Kamkar - How I Met Your Girlfriend
How I Met Your Girlfriend: The discovery and execution of entirely new classes of Web attacks in order to meet your girlfriend.
This includes newly discovered attacks including HTML5 client-side XSS (without XSS hitting the server!), PHP session hijacking and random numbers (accurately guessing PHP sessio...
Wow! I saw about people in England being extradited to America for hacking. Imagine being in an America jail!
All for scanning a port!
I had a scam call once from India and was like 'Ben Chod!' They soon hung up ๐คฃ
Cool story thank you for sharing.
yeah that is one of the most fun defcon talks to watch now and again
and yeah one of these days i should go watch through the best talks from defcon;
i am still working my way through the podcast darknet diaries;
Should I go back and spam post the 200+ THM rooms i have done on my linkedin?

no
An interesting topic lately... Kernel level Anticheat... AKA lets try to make PC like a game console, a sandbox where user is limtied on what he can or can't do with his device, while also introducing a host of issue.
Kernel level DRM where the user don't control his computer anymore... Valorant/BF6's Anticheat solution that may be incompatible with AV solution, and incompatible with each other, and also prevent user from installing legitimate software. The kernel Anticheat used by BF6 for example prevent the installation of process monitor by windows systinternal. They are trying to make PC like a game console, a sandbox environment where its a blackbox/trusted environment where the user is limited in what he can do / not do. But this open up the door for some backdoor / supply chain attack. Oh, also since the Anticheat of BF6 also need control over the secure boot, it may also have compatibiltiy issue with dual booting with linux
you are right. my 676 connections probably donโt care and will unfriend me
you can still use it though. i sent an llm the screenshots of all the rooms i did and had it create an inventory of all the skills i learned from them;
EA games was bought by saudi arabia and jared kushner
RIP EA
Thatโs smart!
its wild that valorant has so much control over users pc
Fsck any game requiring kernel stuff
not gonna happen
the funny thing is i probably still have more experience doing the thm rooms with those skills than most of the people who just copy and paste the requirements of a job posting to their resume and hope they don't get asked about it at the interview;
so true
thm actually forces you to have to use the tools enough to understand them, as long as you didn't copy and paste the answers;
That is the problem. You can get those certifications or even room completion notices and still not know what youโre doing.
fr
That is why listing certifications and completion certificates. Donโt always help very much. Having experience means a lot more.
My bad, i said DRM when what I wanted to say was Anti cheat, just corrected it
Once you get into a position, and they see what you were capable of, then you have a chance to shine and show them what you really know
yeah its a catch 22. even for entry level it jobs, you need 3-5 years hands on experience;
in my case i did freelance for 10 years in it;
Does tryhackme have a referral program?
At this point, if a game require any kind of intrusive Anticheat, I would rather play that game on console, or not play the game at all if that game isn't worth it. Nothing worse than some problematic Anticheat on my computer. No way i would compromised my computer because a company think they will stop cheater using a kernel anti cheat. Cheater will find way around it, but legitimate user are penalized. Its a big security breach
so even if i didn't do on site experience in a soc or something official, i easily have more than enough experience between my certs and from going to senior homes and volunteering to help set up wifi and security for seniors in my area;
Sounds like it'd be a fun exercise to create a maximally undetectable VM with a virtualised TPM just to spite it
its also why i strongly recomend getting in contact with senior homes if you are new to cyber and looking for clients. seniors at least in my area always tip well if you are nice;
i deleted everything about valorant from my pc when i learned about the valorants anticheat system and that they can literally control everything ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
yeah that's part of the reason i game on linux. every game is sandboxed;
The stupid thing is a kernel anti cheat basically behave like an active threat protection... like An antivirus... It just mean that if someone want to cheat, he will just use the same technic used by malware writter, there are technic to evade EDR solution, the same technic will be used to evade the kernel anti cheat. People will just start writing cheat solution like malware
I heard gen z Rust Programmers use anime girl pfp
kernel level is the most egregious, but running any software on your pc is inherently a security risk that windows doesn't really have a good solution for besides hoping that steam and other large storefronts for games and software doesn't allow malware on its platform;
If I cannot cheat in a game I refuse to play it.
Anyone interested in helping me ideate a project please dm me
the base idea is an 'adversarial AI attack defender focusing on the healthcare niche'
Im not an expert but erm, would appreciate if youre down to discuss in dms
could you explain here? i'm currious what that means;
if you're saying defending against ai, its called a firewall;
ideally healthcare shouldn't be exposed to the outside internet at all;
no defending healthcare AI Models/LLMs from adversarial attacks such as data poisoning, prompt injections, evasion attacks
llms are not doctors;
they shouldn't be used for health care purposes period;
actual machine learning absolutely is good for health care though;
but llms are not secure as a tech enough to be relied on for life threatening access to patients;
yes true but healthcare firms are moving towards AI like any other fields
not to take direct decisions but mainly to assist them in safe tasks
take ibm watson for example
well yeah not specifically AI but ML models too
ml security is a different beast;
I play most of my game on either Linux (Game that are better on computer) or on Console (Game that play better on console, have intrusive anti cheat, or game that have nasty DRM on PC (On console, game don't need DRM, since they used the console built-in one... )...From Kernel Anti cheat that compromised your computer while restricting what you can or can't do in your computer like in BF6/Valorant ... To DRM that make the game super slow... Remember Assassin creeds in 2018 or so, the game would barely hit 60 FPS with some of the best GPU, while it would run super fast and look nice on console, because of the DRM that was super ressources heavy
My friend, game hackers have already gone the extra mile actually ๐ญ
The exploits I'm aware of against kernel-level anti-cheat is above that of EDR + Antivirus. Hackers are currently using hardware and PCIE devices to write straight to the memory of a live PC from that of an external Linux device
They use display merging hardware and a 2nd machine to draw ESPs for example and then combine the outputs using specialised hardware
Or use programmable macro devices to merge legitemate input with automated scripted keystrokes
It's insane ๐ญ
lets say using ML in cancer detection
its trained on some datasets to identify patterns
some attacker messes with this data
thats an adversarial attack
then that's database security;
it'd be the same whether ml is involved or not;
hash the datasets;
i guess
what about defense against evasion attacks
prompt injections (yea this is more AI)
I know, but those are not easily accessible solution. I already did some experiment with an FPGA to drive the input of the computer while reading display output. Hardware solution are impossible to block, but at the end of the day, not many people can apply it
like i said, prompt injection is why llms shouldn't be used in health care;
proxmox โค๏ธ
at a foundational level, there is no securing them for anything life threatening;
Interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re1dAB7pyeQ
why cant they be used for assistance?
because if they are injected, proving they are is impossible atm;
we don't understand them enough at this stage to be able to verify if they have been modified in a malicious way;
databases we can verify with hashing;
or simply backups;
if llms are foss, we could theoretically hash them and have each prompt be untied to each other so that it reverts to its default each time;
oh
well I guess I could try to come up with a defense for prompt injections tho that kinda sounds impossible like you said
but then they are just only able to output 1 thing, and that still means verifying the outputs and inputs;
how about evasion attacks on ML models?
manipulating input data during inference time to trick a machine learning model into producing an incorrect output, such as misclassifying a normal-looking image
i feel the whole LLM security (company trying to protect against injection / people specializing in prompt injection) kinda pointless / stupid, cause its impossible to ever have a fully secured LLM, thus in the first place, LLM shouldn't be able to take action (Like modify stuff / run shell command) and shouldn't have access to any sensible/confidential data
i think the root problem is the datasets in those cases from what i can tell;
ml afaik doesn't rely on manipulating the datasets meaning that as long as you authenticate integrity of the datasets you should be safe from malicious edits;
yeah gotta filter the data and curate it which many trainers miss
i don't know enough about ml to be certain though, if anyone has experience with that i'd be interested to know;
i have some experience in llms from the research i'm working on as a part of trying to specialize into mcp security, but ml is outside what i have direct experience with;
I mean adversarial training exists anyway
like tesla uses it on its autonomous vehicle systems to avoid misinterpretations of road signs
training on "corrupt" data
like sometimes the stop signs might have stickers on it or the paints come off and it might trick the car into assuming the sign as something else
well this is an old solution I guess nothing new
tesla isn't a good example for security imo;
for context I was considering this idea for a capstone project ๐
welp idk
though that's more cause of elon than anything the actual engineers are doing;
if yall got anything fire lmk, I try to build up on ideas
if you are like me, my suggestion is to focus more specific;
in my case, i am specifically focusing on mcp;
fair
that keeps me focused on 1 part of llms rather than trying to breadth out into every area of its security;
since we simply have too much we don't know about it from what i have seen and read so far;
but its kinda tough coz the judges look at the solution from a business perspective so I gotta find a balance between something too niche and too generic
mcp at least is grounded enough since its parallel to api security;
right
so a lot of it is just applying the same protections as api;
the big added issue to security is vibe coding;
and specifically people using llms to automate creating api connections and thus not considering the endpoint security needed;
yeah and its increasing daily
for mcp to work as a protocol, there needs to first be some security in authenticating what mcps are verified, and thus working with the companies creating api to create official mcp with proper security imo;
but of course that currently isn't happening so its the wild west where any mcp created could be secure or insecure;
whatever I see as a problem, I immediately think of a potential solution
maybe theres a counter to faults made from vibe coding
hm
the biggest one is building in checks into vibe coding;
if we could even just ensure that these models built in unit testing to the software they build, that would go a long way;
we have that, its called unit testing;
lol
like in javascript there's jest for instance;
yeah jest
or integrate it directly into AI chatbot but thats just like trying to solve the problem after creating the problem which couldve been avoided in the first place
eh
yeah that sentence. didnt make sense
xd
the main thing is training vibe coders to actually read the tests if not the code itself;
cant beat laziness mayne
we seek the easy way out
but yeah thats bare minimum else we all cooked
the biggest issue imo is vibe coding is incentivised from speed being the main incentive financially for coders;
yup
as long as we are paid in salary or hourly, the incentive is fast vs good;
pretty much
running for the moolah
that's also why i think the root of all of this is capitalism, the financial incentive is the core vulnerability that created vibe coding imo;
basically there needs to be tools for employers to be able to identify bad code much more than just for vibe coders to create it;
and that means effective unit testing and tools for mangers;
you know what's a little frustrating the more rooms I am doing ....
okay so
what are some top vulns in mcp
which you think are solvable?
I find errors that are clearly wrong and a problem. There is a bug-report forum here for that I think.
i mean besides humans, the biggest issue fundamentally is its a fluff layer on top of api keys;
But there are almost never replies so why waste my time showing where the errors are
When no one will read it or fix it
and people aren't being trained on how encrypted keys work and to keep them private in .env files;
ah
or they know it but they dont know how seriously necessary that is
or they financially are incentivised not to care because "i don't work in security i'm just the coder" mentality;
either way this is still an area i am only just starting to dive deeper into;
fairs
but its been fun and my hope is i can create something valuable that will also hopefully help me find work;
any experieced and potenial hacker here?
No, I am a janitor
i do think you have the right idea though, trying to work on real issues as a project is always more fun than tutorial hell;
okk
What do you need DR Black?? Read the #rules before asking
Be VERY careful about what you ask!!
hope you do fr
im still unsure bout my career path lol
its between AI and cyber
as boring as that sounds kek
mhm
if you want to do ai, go into ml;
Different things are boring to different people. You ahve to do what you have a PASSION for
dont wry bro
real
llm is not ai, its a prediction algorithm;
whats this?
yeah I am
still a newbie but diving into ML and DL
It means don't ask a question for the sole purpose of asking a question. Just ask the question you want answered to begin with.
btw for those wondering the difference, this goes into it well;
tldr; real ai is solving problems that don't have answers, predictive models like llms are just using data that already exists to make predictions, in this case predictions of what word should come next;
that's not to say llms aren't impressive when used correctly, but they are also not trying to answer problems that we don't already have answers for the way robotics is trying to teach robots how to answer and ideally solve new problems outside what it was trained on so far;
AI can't determine if the answer is right. Humans can verify it and coach the AI telling it what it did right and wrong and then AI can try again until it solves it.
Ig agents are more useful
when u give fine tuned llms agency to do a specific task and work in harmony with other agents
tho the inaccuracies with most LLMs dont give us hope
YAWN
itโs early evening. why u so tired
Me but playing with homelabs;
ask the question
because only sleep roughly 4 hours a night
umm...i m in john the ripper basic
that will do it
and i am not able to usee it
why not? do you get an error
wb bleeding jumbo
i was using the machine given in the room
the john and hash id commands are meant to be run on the attackbox or your own kali linux install
not on the target machine as user
yuups
no idea, what is A+
Also keep in mind that some of the "examples" are just that .. ."examples" sometimes you have to modify the command to match your environment
search for guides on your search engine of choice or on video platforms like youtube
you won't get the certifaction but you will get the knowledge
ok
Thank you
Gave +1 Rep to @sand trench (current: #4 - 2229)
no problem
but those questions in room are too ez, i just guessed them by length, and used hashes.ccom for hash
fair... you can do that
just you are losing some of the learning opertunity by not doing the exercise as explained
you're welcome
Professor Messer is a great resource
Are they free
Yes the course
Sick thanks
Their are paid study notes n stuff but not necessary to pass
Enjoy bro
@ripe sleet i have to go cause my phone number is causing me to be rate limited
but i will stay in the server
Let's gooo
If you ever need to contact me just dm me 
Damn
oh boy
hey guys needed some adive, theres a cybersecurity capture the flag event happening and its being hosted by my school. I signed up for it even though im a beginner and they accepted my application. Im worried if i go to the event that Im going to hold my team back as I am a beginner and dont have as much knowledge/experience in Capture the flag events (this would be my first one). However, I really want the experience and to network with the other people at this event. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
We're old...
makemkv has better ui then this :P
heh
Do some ctf at home like tryhackme or hackthebox first to khow what u will be dealing with
also bet you don't know this ralex but worth asking
any idea how to setup fcitx in wayland???
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Hey.

oh no... heh never need smth like that heh
well need ibus or fcitx on hyprland for gnome applications to be able to take ยจ ^ ~ chars now
due to a recent change
which sucks if shadow wanna use ghostty a lot
as far i know dont have issue with things at all so far
Hello how are you alllllll , iiiiii am in a bit of a dillma right now i was trying to automate some of my tasks but i found a vulnerability while doing so and i want report it , i dont know how to and how much details should i put in the report and all that
I just realized that I won 2 silver raffles. ๐ญ
anyone got any advice on this ?
i just saw the mail ๐คฃ
congratz boi
or girl xd
check the bug bounty program sites to see if the thingy you are dealing with has a bug bounty program
as then you have a reasonable disclosure method
otherwise it can get kinda messy
But I don't think I'm in time to claim it anymore haha
yaaaaaaaaaa i kinda did check that already and there were none
checking wont do no harm sooooooooo yeah
well then there is to check if they have some sort of support email you can reach
not ideal to send that kinda vulns over email but sometimes it is the only option
But I have no idea how. The event happened almost a month ago
yeahh that exactly what i mean like i dont know what to send for them to take it srsly without 1 thinking i am black malling them , 2 without disclosing too much to the wrong ppl
nah they work on hooking kids , colours , fast clips and so on
this is why i came here to ask for advice from the gurus

They RUINED rescue heroes
#random - got a Sora2 invite code if anyoneโs interested.
Profile picture from Black Clover.
eeeh not that into making videos using openai
All good - figured Iโd ask. Seems to be all the hype on X rn
@torn olive looks like i don't have to actually use the browser for the quest
i can block it in with firewall and open it, and it still completes the quest
how the hell does this browser detect my other browser profiles though
Static files btw
wdym
like offline files stored on my device that the browser looks for?
Yep
i lowkey like the music
hahahah @boreal scarab is getting old and hating on new stuffs
good thing that it plays offline
It had music??
XD
Lmao gimme a sec
Giving someone a rare account if they can script something with python for me
Wtf kinda name is that
@cloud quiver
DM me
room?
Anyone just DM me if u can do python shit
I know the github page to get the scripts
@torn olive can u hear music?
yep
Someone built The Tower of Babylon!!
can't really talk cause i don't have headphones connected lmao
feel free to stay and listen till i finish the quest though
yeah ive done quite a few easy picoctfs, but i prob need to practice more
xD
i clicked around a bit, its chromium based, uses AI agents to "automate tasks".
Absolutely not worth IMO missing a bunch of features normal browser has
yeah i'm just gonna enjoy the music till my quest finishes, then uninstall
minimal lightweight look
Girl = Guy in real life.
๐
work in progress continues :D
some kind of hardening script with emphasis on privacy?
yuups for shadows EU privacy and security checklist and scripts thingy on github
Your name reminds me of this
since shadow likes privacy so much, and since i do too, would shadow mind if i bother her in the near future with my privacy related questions, or discuss my ideas for better privacy sometimes?
also dafuq is that?
we should ban names like that
go ahead and ping shadow for that... would love to discuss it
This was posted by the official account, and I have no idea what they are trying to say
Anyone done todays flags for huntress ctf?
12 hours ago from now?
Days ago
KFC pretty much hired a GenZ marketing team and let them shitpost
i wonder what they are marketing with that lmao
KFC UK & Ireland on Instagram is literally just memes and trolling, it's not even a business account atp
@quick blaze not even you?
It's all about playing the algorithm, more people who see your posts, more people follow the account and then you can make normal posts (not reels) which will be pushed onto people's feed
Hmm?
Same with LetsDefend on LinkedIn, it's either all memes, or newly released challenges.
Huntress?
LinkedIn is a new environment that people are testing memes with- it has been strictly professional for a long time and 'shitposting' has been highly scrutinised
Ill be sure to check it out when you're done
Duolingo have been breaking the LinkedIn cycle but they were also the first people to do it on the rest of social media
Oh bet I'll join it.
just quick reminder that the script is arch linux focused
I love that!
Seems like it's steganography?
Well we have tried everything, I cant get it
i wrote a short blog post earlier about digital privacy (also my first blog article ever), would u like taking a look?
audio steg is NOT that difficult. ๐ค
and give me some feedback
sure
did ea nasir return?
oh
his mesopotamian name is gone
ea nasir sells high-quality courses on cybersecurity ๐ฑ
