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You wouldn’t want to live where I do then lol. I live in a city where our chemical facilities take up a good 1/3 of what makes our citie’s area
haha my mate is a chemist and is also clumsy. its not a good mix
I won’t say that’s why I’m interested in these videos but I’m sure it contributed a little bit
We had a chlorine gas leak where half the town had to be evacuated at one point, but no major incidents worthy of the CSB investigating and etc
ngl chemistry is the perfect example of no tech being entirely safe;
and its why i am against people saying to ban llms on the grounds of safety;
it being unsafe is not in itself a deal breaker, what matters is having a clear understanding and documentation on risk levels and where the risk levels are weighed to the benefits;
idk who would truly want a ban, but yes all new technology has hazards and it’s up to us to figure out how to safely operate and eventually regulate them
i think its just from me being in a lot of circles where people have very strong anti tech views more broadly;
especially in some art communities i have been in;
I usually see the opposite and people being so gun-hoe about LLMs without understanding hallucinations and issues but yeah
a lot of the same type of extremism as people saying digital art entirely isn't "Real art";
or that "cheap" animation like flash animation isn't "Real" animation;
I get it a bit more in the art community, especially when it’s literally trained on their art without consent, but yeah there’s much more to LLMs and etc than that
yeah i see that a lot too absolutely;
I’m just not huge on the tech bro side of things where it’s full steam ahead, consequences be damned, people have already died or faced injury through the use of this technology. But yes it’s early days and we’re still figuring this out. Same can be said for cars, or nuclear, or so much more
Morning all,
knowing the history of anti tech politics more broadly makes it a lot more interesting to me. i enjoyed watching some docs about the anti nuclear reactors movements for instance;
6am starts are not fun. My hot take
can anyone help me learn how to lag switch
Yeah I’m 100% pro nuclear reactors, but fair, I was not quite alive for Three Mile Island. I sure was for Fukajima and that just needs better safegards is all
what
absolutely, just like you don't give 20 year olds with no formal education or training access to cobol archives and tell them to let llms record the entire database, just as a hypothetical and totally not real world security nightmare that occured recently;
Iirc nuclear is the cleanest, outside of accidents, and where to store waste.
yeap
yep and still people have been lead to believe its uniquely dangerous compared to literally every other fuel all thanks to effective scientific disinfo campaigns;
I am massively fascinated by nuclear accidents but honestly the fact that they are so darn rare is part of why it’s interesting
a lot of them come down to simply bad zoning;

aka bad policy;
Was it not slightly cold war era anti-russian sentiment that made people anti-nuclear as well? To an extent anyway
"Look a Chernobyl, we don't want that!" When it's an extremely rare case
Yeah that T1 labs video I shared, and another they did on that Texas Fertilizer facility are great examples of bad zoning
like anyone making any major generator that isn't literally a hydro generator right next to the ocean is probably going to have a bad time;
Also I don’t want to be that person but yes that was freaking Soviet Russia who often were a bit fast and loose with things, but that’s dramatically oversimplifying what was an extremely complex situation lol
💯
its also about bias in reporting too, the bp oil spill is hardly talked about compared to fukushima as recent examples;
Yeah that was a massive freaking disaster, if you were alive for that you remember how freaking long it took and what a big deal it was
long term the damage from bp is probably many factors of times bigger;
i hate onions;
all comes down to bad risk management and bad policy, and that's why we need people doing the work to measure the potential risk ahead of time;
fail early and not after you have a globally known oil spill for instance;
Why is everyone ending their statements in semicolons? I get that it leaves you flexibility for follow up sentences but is this a thing that I am only just noticing?
nah its just a me thing;
Y
lol helios just decided to follow suit so I was curious
Everyone?
if you have a bot that is impersonating me, and doesn't know my text quirk, it gives a tool to identify it wasn't me for instance;
if they are spearfishing me that won't work, but most attacks aren't spear fishing for this kind of attack/risk;
that’s fair but yeah I have my own text quirks I guess, which wear off on my friends lol
Hey how is attackbox working? Like if i switch my VPN to nearest location - will it speed up? Will latency go down or its irrelevant of that fact? [P.s - using AB after idk years as i dont have PC anymore]
speaking of text quirks, homestuck is back!;
I have no idea where they are hosted besides AWS, couldn’t tell you. I just use a VPS as my pentesting server
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i should post in site support ig
But Ellie, how do you handle RDP and HTTPS sessions via your VPS? EZ, ssh tunneling 
it’s kind of cursed how well RDP works when SSH tunneled lol
its like too much work
Nah it’s easy, it just costs money is more like it
I just rather have an attacker machine that has nothing to do with my home network when interacting with THM/HTM and etc, plus it is persistent unlike attackbox. Sure you can do similar with VMs… but well that’s in your local network and well you can’t without a PC
inb4 VLANs or more
yeah for me i am lazy so i just subscribe mostly for that, plus it supports the development of the site;
yeah been a sub for years
with the holiday discounts its fairly affordable even literally living on disability money atm;
But even sub doesn’t give you persistance, just gets you Kali
This is true
Lord knows how long its been that i have studied tryhackme
Since 2021 for me but yee
yeah that's fair, for me that's a feature since i try to keep my host machine notes as a way to log what i learn from each question rather than storing anything on the machines themselves;
I mean you can do both lol
you can, again i am lazy;
#unemployed #BusinessColapse #Costcutting #j*b
I just have a folder for my nmap scans and etc
efficient sometimes, but usually just lazy;
that's 1 thing that being disabled has benefited me, i feel a lot less pressure to do things the "right" way or to push myself as hard as i used to especialyl when i was undiagnosed;
my home folder on my pentesting server is like htb thm seclists tools and not much else
I just have a symbolic link to the seclists to make that a bit faster lol
knowing your limits helps a lot with recognizing when you should cut effort;
same reason i am working to set up a loging llm to help automating creation and publishing of blog posts about my progress on my projects;
I tried to make “Smart Notes” for a time in my note taking software and went overboard, now I take “dumb notes” aka only what I actually need to remember lol
got a wordpress website i am going to set up so that eventually i can just work at my own pace, and the logs will automatically be built and organized so i can then create 1 blog post and share it on all social media to create attention to my work and hopefully build up my portfolio and network;
Eww Wordpress, nevermind I have to host one for work though lol
hello elizabeth 👋🏼
Heya
havent seen you in a LONG time
there's a good reason in this case at least;
wordpress makes social media posting easy for my use case;
def looking at a bunch of options, the main point for me is social media posting and portfolio hosting though;
I’m just often asked “hey Ellie, can you make this complex system, ideally for free?” and I sorta just do it lol
so that server is actually a large virtual hosting platform with my own custom Docker Compose setup, I’m proud of that even if one of them contains WordPress and MySQL
eventually i can use aws or similar to play around with vps and such;
and the website server is on a vps, so i have the ability to still use it as a server itself if i ever upgrade its specs;
wordpress just makes social media automation less of a pain;
I’d recommend something a bit more sane like DigitalOcean for getting started, those are sane per month fees and not bandwith or use rate charged. There is much cheaper than DigitalOcean it’s just pretty user fiendly to get started with VPSes.
Which provider
doing that using each of the social media proprietary apis and such myself is very annoying to maintain;
guess lol
Hetzner is another host which is cheaper and oft recommended but a bit less smooth to deploy
digitalocean sounds fun, currently i got hostinger but next year i can choose to research prices and see what works best for my use cases;

the main point was just a dumb easy to set up website so i can host my portfolio stuff outside of just github;
I mean no shame having a .github.io page but fair
and besides the sketchy cloud storage solutions;
i have a background in web and always wanted a website even if i am not going to go into web dev anymore;
Eh I don’t mind it as much as Google Pages back in the day lol
or we can get older with Geocities and Angelfire lol
Will I get shot if I mention vercel
I remember those days lol
Vercel too 😶🌫️
ngl back when homestuck was still new, i first got excited by web and wanted to get into web dev;
yeap I’m good bit older than that lol
contact their support
long whindy career for me to eventually head towards soc analyst and eventually app sec;
U can use your own domain with vercel
to this day i want to make a web based visual novel;
but not as a career the way i imagined;
certainly not indie game development anymore;
though as a hobby it can be fun;
Not difficult but I’d still much rather play a RenPy game than a browser VN
Do it
for me the platform is less important now than telling a story;
just like the medium;
RenPy is lovely
i was a lot more opinionated about platform and distribution early in my career, both for art and tech;
nowadays i just want to do cool stuff;
the tools i use are only as good as what i use them for at this point in my career;
That’s fair but as a gamer I want a standalone product and not a webpage that could disappear
if i do it in renpy or whatev thats fine, i don't plan to sell it;
Is there a problem with website?
not if the code for it is open source;
For me the rooms no load.
ideally the goal is a webcomic that was completely foss;
Like that’s fair, but then you’d have to rehost it instead of running a cross platform executable
Pen tool is love once you learn it
like if i get a commision then cool but its not my career just a hobby;
learning synth music and remixing for the same reason;
and how to use a 3d printer;
Pen tool is practically magical with how much you can do with it
if its not for money, its all about the journey for my hobbies;
if it is about the money like cyber then i want to do something that helps people;
otherwise i just want to pay rent;
Sure I have plenty of creative hobbies, just make sure to stick with them instead of getting too distracted by all the shiny things
though i do try to design projects with an mvp in mind;
I know for me I’m very all or nothing about everything I do, and I have to kinda force myself to keep up with some things when I’m not normally in the mood
for me i try to find a t shape balence;
master of only 1 or 2 things but breadth in as many other things too;
like for security i want to hyper focus on mcp atm;
One reason why I can never learn a language properly lol, I can’t do the upkeep on it
that to me feels like a specific enough specialty that is useful atm as llms gain traction;
but i also have enough broader interests like apis that i am not going into it with 0 experience;
although hey I can speak and read Spanish and Japanese like a pre-schooler and French like a toddler lol
i thought you were referring to programming
nah those are ez in comparison
technically you can never fully learn a language in programming;
because you can always invent new words;
though i guess in theory that's true of any language if you can convince enough people to use those new words;
what new words
I know quite a few programming languages quite well, but if I’m being honest I’d say I’m more of a scripter than a “progammer” but I’ve been told I’m being too modest
like in programming you can create a function named almost anything;
and that itself can add functionality that goes beyond core functions in the language;
thats just abstractions
in some very very silly ways too if you choose
the point is just that there's not end to learning in programming;
which kinda leads to obfuscation
learning a language to the fullest means knowing all the capabilities, limitations and methods
right that's impossible imo;
French added words to their language BC they're a bit weird about adopting English words
Streamer I think was one of the more recent words
Yeap
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modern languages that have 50+ pull requests a day, sure
joueur-animateur en direct
this but for progress in a language;
They’re extremely protective about it, stark contrast with Japanese which just straight up has a ton of English tech words
programming is a moving goal post;
but something as simple as C, that doesnt have anything abstracted beyond ASM
and that's good, if it weren't it wouldn't be as useful;
Only reason I care is Canada lol, otherwise French isn’t super relevant to me
Fair lmao
Pro Gamer is better Word.
I do like a lot of French arthouse stuff but not as exciting as Japanese but Japanese is freaking brutal (besides the honestly more sane grammar)
(My personal Opinion)
honestly a part of me wishes we would just agree to all learn mandarin;
Thing I’m weirded out most about with the Romance languages is all the gendered nouns
and then the rest of us would struggle for a big but eventually we'd all have at least 1 language we all know;
why is pizza female? idfk
oh god don't get me started on sexism in languages;
i could go on and on and on for hours;
even stuff like male and female plugs still weirds me tf out and that's nothing compared to grammar genders;
I’m not even alluding to that, it’s just how the language is, but sure. I don’t want to go there either, it just seems silly
we’re getting there with english
IMO as long as you try no one really cares how you refer to a table yk
theoretically, but in practice english is garbage;
its really like 8 different languages smushed together;
In France if you try speaking French they're a lot more helpful than if you walk up and order in English
not to mention roman characters are objectively garbage;
God Father of Gender Words German Language.
yeah, but in practice, its the most spoken language around the globe
it is
by native and non native
Mandarin is the most spoken by native speakers
which are the chinese
lol although not if you are a dumb american who screams garcon for any waiter
hard to compete against that
English being big in science is nice for native soeakers
Lmao, anyone screaming probs has the same effect
Where my garçons at?
heh
ok so its complicated it seems, english is the most spoken but what level people speak english is self described;
a lot of languages have english loan words and thus they technically have some english in their vocab;
English itself has so many loan words
I will say that Spanish and French are significantly easier to spell things in than English, although sure I was obs missing my ç there lol, just forgot I could do that on this keyboard
either way my point is more just that i hate english as a lanaguage as a native speaker;
its objectively a terrible language;
That was also just me being cheeky 
Hah totally fair
I’m on an iPad physical keyboard and just tried Option+C and was glad that did the thing
Ayy nicr
honestly i still think the egyptians were right;
we should all speak in gifs and pictures;
which is part of the reason i like kanji characters;
all of them are basically emojis;
Yeah I love my iPad if I’m being honest, it kinda is the true netbook we all wanted back in the late 00s and early 2010s when you have a keyboard
to this day my laptop is mostly just to remote into my other devices on my network;
Won’t pretend it’s a full computer because it’s not. You can force it to be but it’s usually better to go with the flow of the confines
Don't let the FOSS diehards hear that
Heh totally fair, and I could from here but yeah it’s more sometimes I just feel like being a bit more minimal than my fully fledged PCs from time to time
I'm German and I don't understand this "feature" either
I mean I’m a diehard Linux user but notably am not diehard FOSS. I care deeply about open source but I don’t die if I use the right tool for the job when its propritary
as I chat on this proprietary chat platform lol
for me foss just offers inherently better security;
proprietary is fine if locked away in a box;
I use Signal tons but yeah for different purposes
i don't control thm but i absolutely would move everything to matrix if i could;
its objectively better than discord in almost everyway;
specifically because its a universal protocol, not a software set;
I was less than happy with my experience with Matrix but I guess it’s because I also rather be where the people are
there's lots of guis for matrix that make it effectively the same for users of discord;
i could care less, i am happy to be in less populated communities if they are also privacy focused;
most of my socializing is on signal chats nowadays;
It’s like Mastodon, it’s lovely but don’t care about it beyond very small infosec.exchange userbase
Infosec.exchange mention 🫵 🥳
i would never use twitter but if i needed it i would at least consider mastodon;
if discord ever becomes like twitter i def would leave it forever;
Literally only got into Twitter for infosec right before it all went to crap lol
Lmao nice
very poor timing
same but back in my web dev days;
when i was just starting to appreciate the value of networking in general;
until then i never got a facebook account;
2023 joined date on my account. Didn't realize how long it's been
Girl back in my day we had dat web 1.0, what is a social network
discord is probably the first main social media besides forums i was on;
to this day i miss forums so badly;
we made HTML sites with <color> tags and were happy lol
heh don’t get me wrong, CSS is wonderful, I’m just half kidding
i still like indie web as a movement;
Haters will say it's paid follows
and that's one of my goals for my non professional website;
Even my mom made her on Star Trek fan page in raw HTML on Geocities, baller
Heh not bad
i mostly just want my professional website to be set up first before i have fun and make my indie website where i can do cool stuff like a fake desktop to browse the cool stuff i like;
i love websites that give the feeling of using a linux desktop instead of just being an infinite scrolling generic design;
It was just sad to see infosec twitter kinda splinter into all different directions instead of all move to Mastadon as we hoped
i have so many ideas for my side project website and webapps when i can dive into that rabbithole of projects as a hobby;
Bluesky being """federated""" really irks me.
That was a truely valuable resource when I was getting into infosec professionally after a life long passion
agreed
But I see a lot of the bigger accounts crossposting which is... Something
personally i like federation;
Oh yeah me too
and hate social media consentration;
Bluesky isn't federated tho
for me the root issue is centralized platforms more generally;
I just don’t trust Bluesky despite their move to federation, Mastadon is still more my thing but heck it honestly gets confusing after a point
hence why i think matrix is the best solution atm;
and the one i wish had more development longer term;
it solves a lot of important problems imo that most of social media has atm;
especially in terms of confidential sharing in bulk;
which signal theoretically could do but as we saw with group chats thats not realistic in practice;
Yes that would be great, but same sorta issues will just lead to fragmentation and weirdness if Discord keeps getting more crap. Not everyone will move to the federated solutions, some will stick with the old platform etc etc
that's why protocols are imporant, they can be used by old platforms;
even wordpress is able to be federated now;
I miss the Instant Messenger days unironically, I had all my chat protocols in one app, Pidign and I was “set for life” until IM died out
when you create open protocols, it allows for different implementations while still creating compatibility across different networks;
Yes theres ways to use Pidgin with modern protocols but less than ideal
yep you could use Pidign for that too, although fair probably not the best IRC client out there
to this day rss is fantastic;
I have good memories of IRC and still use it here and there to collab on Wikis
yes I use RSS on the daily
it aged like fine wine imo especailly in podcasting;
I'd be down to use irc, but no one uses it lmao
Or not enough people for me to bother
spotify can't keep their podcasts proprietary when all their podcasts servers run on rss lol;
Sounds good, enjoy! I’m more into anime and western comics but wouldn’t mind chatting about either another time c:
big into elgoonish shive and dumbing of age too;
Can’t say I know about those even as a fan of indie comics but sounds good
kazu kabushi is probably worth a shoutout too;
Flight is an American comics anthology series edited by Kazu Kibuishi, showcasing young and innovative artists and writers. Image Comics published the first two volumes. In June 2005 Kibuishi announced that the series would move from Image to Ballantine Books from Volume Three on in an attempt to increase sales through mainstream bookstores. Kib...
YES
lots of great comic collections;
I freaking loved that and have been trying to track them down
i read them back in uni in my uni's library;
thankfully they're still in my city's public library, just long wait lists a lot of the time;
Yeah I got mine from local library and loved it
well read them via, but yep, anyways go enjoy the manga
and of course my personal fav calvin and hobbes;
someday I’ll read more Manga besides the obvious Uzimaki and such
I’m just much more well versed on western comics and ironically also anime, idk why not manga
goodnight punpun is probably the one i would point to as a great one to read that isn't an anime;
Sounds good, I’ll keep it on my mental list
good example of manga being able to experiment a lot more with darker topics compared to what is allowed on tv;
Yeah that’s my kinda thing for sure
how do I start?
sup chat
Hello chris
hey how are you
Nothing I'm just saying hello
hi im playing the overpass room. I successfully get the rsa key, cracked the pass phrase, and when I ssh using the rsa key and correct passphrase, a message”Connection closed by <ip> port <port> shown and i cant successfully log in. Write-ups didnt mention this issue. Is this a bug?
Gm
Are u sure ur connected with vpn and try to restart machine etc
did you connect to the correct port number?
and also connected to vpn?
Mooornings 🥳 !
mornin 🙂
I can ping and even rustscan the machine ip, so i guess not the connection problem. I just restarted the machine and still same issue
when you do rustscan, what ports do you see?
could you send a screenshot?
not of rustscan
the sshing process
Sure
you do need to put the id_rsa into your ~/.ssh or feed it in via a flag if not already, but yes screenshot would help
I entered a wrong passphrase first and then the correct one. Here’s the output
root@machine_ip
#1: are you sure the user is correct?
#2: did you do chmod 600 to the id_rsa?
I thought she were trying to access attacker machine
no 🤣
they're trying to do a challenge box
chmod 600?
No, i believe a different error will show if i did not chmod600
The correct username is james instead of James
…
yes *nix is always case sensitive
ah, yeah
the capital J was a bit weird, so
I thought it was really weird you were using a capital but I didn’t remember the room enough to comment
nah it’s understandable, just usually *nix usernames are all lowercase unless someone decides to get funky
you can literally use an Emoji as a valid username in linux since that’s a valid unicode character that is actually just ASCII text in the background
Thank you
if you would want to or if it’s a good idea is another matter entirely lol
UTF-8 Unicode is kind of beautiful though, all ASCII is valid Unicode and all Unicode is (usually transparently) valid ASCII
I guess reminds me of base64 encoding in that way as well
every email has to be valid ASCII dat 1970s tech, how to send attachments then…. just send them all as base64
lol for a while at work we’d get voicemail failures for a client via email, they were all just base64 WAVs you’d have to convert and spit back out in a useable form to our client
just holy heck, you can imagine how much base64 text would comprise the rare 3 minute voice mail, just pages and page of text
lol what in particular do you need help with?
Hey hello, your pfp remind me of madhacker in tg
Then you need the basics first and TryHackMe teaches both the basics and advance…
uh
no illeal activity
that’s not how we operate, you need to abide by ethical principles with this knowledge
hey guys i just got hacked by a guy from austria who was trying to steal all my accounts, he managed to get away with some damage before i stopped him and made him put his ip address in order to log into one of my accounts, i got his ip. What should i do now?
you got a proxy ip
That’s no excuse, there has to be an official bug bounty program which lists the site as in scope and open to security testing
austria is notorious for those
Report it to the authorities?
what authorities bro
Do you have permission to test the site?
Police
Spend the time wiser
i doubt they will do something I live in uae idk if thats a thing here
Go bugcrowd, earn money and test at the same time
If you don't have permission it's illegal
Not with this attitude you won’t. You need official permission to be doing this activity, otherwise that is illegal
@mossy river @cloud quiver @gusty inlet
@plush needle @umbral bay
now I pinged everyone 🤣
thats still illegal lmao
you ask for permission
Maybe ask permission, identify them first, and let them know 😄
And a government systems, wont have that low security that you could exploit them with no knowledge.
You are not the first guy thinking about exploiting them.
I forgot the admin active
you need a contract and everything
- any attempt could lead to jail
then they won't give you permission
ok that cant be true
where are the mods...
mods ban him and blow up his f***ing house
Responsible disclosure is how to handle these things when you’ve found a security flaw, but with how you went about this, there’s nothing to say the goverment won’t arrest you for the same activity having not done so ethnically or legally
no
Absolutely not with this attitude.
tryhackme.com is a good place to start
I think you should start on Tryhackme if you are interested about cybersecurity and build your foundation. And stay ethical. After you know what you should and you want to do, then find jobs.
Then you have to do it right and ensure you’re actually allowed to do these things. But yes this is a site founded upon doing it the right way
shittt
:hammer: devil3700#0 has been banned.
-# finally
I like your discord banner
-# meow
thanks
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i use that for plymouth
Myself, I just much rather see the Linux boot text go scrolling by, but now adays it boots so fast you can’t even appriciate it lol. I still enjoy it though
i've deliberately made my system boot with 3 seconds delay
just to stare at the loading screen
oh lol I was expecting you to say you made that delay for grub or whatever but uh that’s kinda silly
I for one do not mind my system booting in under 15 seconds lol
but I’m old school enough that I used to just do the good old startx to start my GUI back in the day. Those would be a decent minute of boot on those old HDDs and I’d appreciate being dumped into tty only instead of a Display Manager
ricing is a rabbit hole
I’m not even ricing, Linux just boots that fast lol
i've went from theming an app, to ricing my desktop, to modifying my boot process, to writing grub extensions
Been a while since I was super anal about my themes and made my own in the 00s
canon *nix order
this school is beyond me
idk missing actually building your install up from scratch
well even if by packages, I don’t mean LFS
I did it once and that was enough for a lifetime lol
i should give that a go
I’d highly recommend it, just any distro that gives you a tty and you go from there and build it out how you see fit
did that with nixos
Really teaches you alot about how Linux all fits together and how modular it is
well Nix is kinda weird anyways lol
to install a display manager and whatnot
not really a general view of how you’d do it in a “normal” distro
for sure
I’m just thinking more Arch, Gentoo, or even as I used to do way back in the day Ubuntu minimal installs
It sounds like you’re ore than ready so for once I can actually recommend it, just yeah I only do archinstall because I have nearly two decades of installing Arch manually
well I say that but there was actually an installer before archinstall, the Arch Installation Framework
back in the day, Arch actually greeted you with this menu
still only got you to tty unless you went out of your way dramatically, but many find this interesting
it just went unmaintained and was dropped
But yes with the experience you currently have, I do think a full manual Arch install would help teach you even more which is not something I say to everyone for sure
my first experience with linux was arch, i'd say a year ago
I’ve been an Arch user since 2008 and I usually tell people not to use Arch since they’re not ready lol
took me a lot of willpower to flash that iso onto an usb
oh that’s wild
and to boot it up
i had no clue what documentation was
the installer suggested archinstall
You made it sound like you’d used Linux for significantly longer
so as any sane homosapien would do, i ran it
if we're talking in hours
i'd guess about 400 hours just on nixos
The Arch Wiki doesn’t actually suggest archinstall unless that’s dramatically changed, it just may mention it exists.
(i've read the thesis)
There’s just a very clear Installation Guide with all the steps
archinstall should only be used by people pretty experienced with Arch and is a platform for further automation beyond the basics configs they give for you to supply your own
The best thing about Arch, when something breaks, you did it and know how to fix it, which is also the worst thing about Arch lol
do you ever have package conflicts
Not often but when I do they’re easy to resolve
that was my main concern when switching to nixos from arch
I mean I was an AUR maintainer for years as well
I mean if you’re happy with Nix then no reason to switch
I was just suggusting this as a learning experience, which can be done from a VM or however you’d like
awesome
Helooooooooooo
my ssd yearns for a quadriple boot
i was considering omarch, since it's been gaining hype
but theres nothing much to it
I am super bias though, I know a lot of people thing that NixOS is the best thing since sliced bread, but how different it is from any traditional *nix system appeals to me less. That doesn’t mean I don’t think you made the right choice, just not for me
and i'd be cursing myself, since the installation process encrypts your entire disk
I’ve heard nearly nothing about omarch other than it exists
i have a gif for this
stolen from a nixos server, of course
I generally have a dim view of Arch derritives though
What are you all doing???
we do ethical hacking here
lol -nearly unreadable gif is another factor
Nice
I just don’t like my binaries to be in crazy hashed directories and do things completely different from every other *nix there is. I get that there’s tools to manage it but I’m not huge on abstractions like that
but again that is just me
familiarity factor could be the case
me, who had no experience with *nix
you, who are already deep in the traditional *nix hole
hashing file names is an innovation
I just don’t have a huge reason to keep multiple copies of the same app around is fundamentally why I don’t really need it. When I do, we do have a solution to that in *nix land and that’s just to… make them versioned or symbolic link them depending on he need
its the only way the official package repository could handle conflicts
Like that is a thing, but we do have solutions for that already that don’t require rethinking the wheel
thats for developers
that’s why there’s versioned copies of libraries in /usr/lib and they’re not spread all over the place
Who wants to play with me????
there’s still solutions for that
(or just libraries conflicting dependencies)
i'm still boring....
anyone here
with?
you’re gonna hate this but… containers or venv setups
yes dude
huH?
a container just to run an old binary?
idk
things get extremely messy if you just have a bunch of node versions but fair idk how Nix sanely handles that
isolation
yes what containers do
so you modify the entire principle of how every binary works including freaking Firefox just for niche use cases instead
the only thing that gets modified is how they're stored and referenced
yes
hi donut 👋🏼
who ??
hi aaron 🙂
doing good?
how are u?
yup 🙂
I guess I should just stop without more Nix experience than the limited docs I’ve read since I may have been lead astray, but I just don’t need every binary to be abstracted personally
good dude thanks u??
Gave +1 Rep to @marsh lark (current: #30 - 369)
doing fine, was sick but im recovering well, slowly introducing studying back even though i still feel dizzy from time to time, thanks for asking 👍🏼
Gave +1 Rep to @marsh lark (current: #30 - 370)
I want to laugh but i don't wanna disturb people serious conversation here
ahh, good 🙂
hope you get better soon!
good
thanks 👍🏼
I think it would be better to abstract only the single binaries you need abstracted
If that's the case, should we go somewhere else and laugh?
😆
lol
But again that’s just me, NixOS is perfectly valid and I admit I don’t know tons, just the basic principles of how it works. Every OS is valid if it works for you c:
hihi
hi Jack 🙂
recently my BlackArch was crashed 😩
I'm absorbing Elizabeth knowledge and the fallen star disturb the atmosphere of chat
lol I have more knowledge but I think it’s time to wind down with silly Japanese TV shows
GameCenter CX more specifically
We need to take ethical hacking to the next level in a useful way.
I mean
we use ethical hacking
in a useful way
already
are u trying to tempt us Lucifer
sounds like it 🤣
Tell me what you did.
I just finished one more module of advanced web exploitation.
noiceeee
that sounds pretty scary ngl
no dude
🎉
The SSTI was very fun.
I'm really bad at SSTI
'Dude' again
what's wrong with dude 🤣
Don't call me dude pls I'm too young
is there an age limit to dude
What is there to fear? My name is Satan, but I am an angel of God.😆
@quick blaze 🕵🏼
I don't think so
I'm 14, and I don't mind being called dude
Your pfp is pissing me off
🤣
alright pal
dude are you 14
Nobody minds being called dude, man.
yes
im 20
some people might
wtf
People or idiots? 😄
bleu, lets be nice
people might not like being called dude
Dude.
It's just a word. To informally address somebody.
It's not that serious.
Dude.
Done!
idiots?
check out the claudeai subreddit
idiots don't sound very nice
there is a mod that calls everyone geezer
well
then thats a problem 🤣
I'm then reporting a mod to a mod /j
Well geez, that guy seems like a ton of fun. 😄
dudee
You're a geezer.
I don't like idiots. 😄
I'm an old man?
jamey pull up the guy calling other people geezer
No, You're a geezer.
I’m an old lady compared to all of you apparently
what is the definition of geezer then?
So..a geezer? 😄
that gray pfp she keep calling u dude
Also used to define a 'man'
I think geezer is more male coded lol
I'm not a man tho
child
I don't really like just being called a child tho in like conversations
like: "Child.."
Okay I'm not talking to a 14 year old about what makes a man and what doesn't.
ok how i say??
sure
I’m in my gasp 30s which makes me ancient by discord standards lol
just be casual 🤣
Source identifiers........
We have many people in their 30s here 😄
blablablablaa
how to i say
this
just talk like you are talking to another person, not a child
Haha I know, just always taken aback when I see someone who I considered one of the more mature people in the chat to say they’re 14 but nothing wrong with that
But you are a child and you don't wanna be addressed as a man. So what's the difference between talking to a person, and talking to a man or a child?
😄
I know a lot of people much much older who are immature and type like crap lol
I hate this emoji

I'd rather be perferred not to be called child during a conversation or dicussion
Yeah...so does my rootkit
thats all
makes me want to punch my fn monitor
But you are one 😄
so?
I’d call them a teen and they are one so that’s fair
So I can't call you a man or a child but I can call you donut? 😄
geezer, huh? sounds familiar
because thats a nickname
lemme file a complaint to Police
...talking to a 14yo /j
fuck you
😄😄😄
dont use bad words
Oh nawr...
Calm down people
😭
what the fuck is happening why is everyone ANGRY
im good boy
that's what...she said?
its ok, he can also tell me that
U suddenly pop up in the middle of serious conversation
Donut was the one I thought was much older than they were because they communicate much more sanely than half of you lol
I pissed jack off, I'm in the middle of pissing donut off, I'm currently deciding if I wanna bait Ms Elizabeth here.
😄
I used to like bleu, but now, I can't see the old bleu
I'm tired. 😄
but i like that prosess
It changes everything actually. 😄

"Change is the only constant in the world~"
- Some nerd, probably
I'm starting to see bleu as more like Scrubz
Scrubz isn't a bad person.
has it?
and... I kinda don't wanna see that
yes
Anyways this has devolved into brain rot. I miss Infosec chat. Back to my show
I might or might not have personality compartmentalization issues.
damn would like to know how he was
lmao
You clearly haven't seen the peak degeneracy this chat has yet to offer...
yes that actually exists
Nor do I care to lol
Sorry cuz of gray pfp disturb u
thats not a joke
Fair enough, and good for you honestly. 😄
And they are all arguing
how do u become a script kiddie by saving nmap scan lmao
You already know 😄😄
this is a 2/10 in thm general degeneracy

Don't use profane languages..be warned
does anyone in scrit kide
just seeing the past bleu's messsages
things have definitely changed
@cloud quiver We allowing people to minimod now? 😄
dont send messages twice; be warned
minimod alert 
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm~
@digital estuary's faultt honestly.
Nestle. 😄
🤣
which one
NESTLE.
@quick blaze im the one on the left whacking the right one
i want espresso
thats my reaction to the blame
but its expensive
what
im a good one
No you're rude you suddenly popup in the middle of relaxing conversation
And now she gone

this is general chat tho
I'll take all the blame
i learnt a powerlifting technique for bench
If so, can I send a message?
leg drive
wish me luck guys
about to try drink coffee after i was awfully sick and was only able to eat bread for 2 days
ill either lose all my recovery progress or get to drink coffee
im able to bench 200lbs at 155 bw
sure
no no lol
yes yes yes
sorry frnds i quite this grp
leg drive all the way
that sounds terrible
maybe I'm just misunderstanding it
I shouldnt be immediately dismissive sry
Don't do powerlifting..be warned
Today we're discussing one of the most underrated bench press aspects : the grip technique. Even if you have the strength to bench a lot of weight, if you're not properly applying pressure with your hands against the bar, you won't be able to take advantage of your full potential.
That's why I wanted to share with you the grip technique that al...
if this makes me finally do a 2 plate bench ill
goddamn it mr bread go mold or sth
i dont know
depends on ur capability
im 20kg away from a 2 plate
my record was 300 pounds
ive been recovering a little bit rn but im sure 2-3 work sessions and ill be back on track
i have a broken left shoulder so since then i havent gone heavy
86 is mr 1rm
5 more kgs
holy shit are you okay?
ah yea rn i am i got left shoulder injury from motorbike accident\
not lifting
I'm still working on getting your exact location
So chill
ok mr dox
you do know that hacking/OSINTing someone without permission is illegal and unethical, right?
who use BlackArch os ??
hacking and osinting without permission is illegal, be warned
Na
I'm just gonna say hi to bro
its not that easy to doxx bro ion think he can through discord
are you gonna bring a present?
yes "bro"
Thank you
Gave +1 Rep to @frozen gull (current: #2091 - 2)
Hmmm
I might consider
nice work you can try it for me
let him be, let the script kiddie thrive
cool
Imma just ignore
sounds ok; I thought you meant some influencer talking about having invented some "new technique"
thumbless grips on bench 
erm yes
sounds fun, probably is fun
gauys who use honeyport????
i try to keep a bigger emphasis on "strength building" > "bodybuilding" as i find it more functional and useful
bb w/o roids is not that satisfying anyway
you can get farther wrt strength w/o roids
id rather not die from arrhythmia by the age of 20
someone try to access my network ??
yes bro
but i don't know who is that person
why
ok bro
I wanted to ask if the wreath room`s network problem has solved?
But I`m still not able to ping it
try #room-help
restart to ping it work
Done
are you subscribed users??
ok
im really suss of people whos discord account is only a day old
Are you pointing at me?
haha no
me???
yes. your account is only a day old
yes
im nope
i don't know about hacking
What's your purpose for doing that?
id believe that
what?
WHAT?
hacking is myth story
its not...
ok so you say whats is hacking ??
were you here before under a different account?
according to google:
the gaining of unauthorized access to data in a system or computer.
how can mirrors be real if your eyes arent
of course
thats only unethical hacking
hacking can also be red teaming and blue teaming
no
damn you got a nice tag; args thats like programming shit right
wrong
guy that came up with this must be a fn genius
donut stap taking every bait 
don't worry
Yes @river garden that is really nice tag I love that cuz it's rare
And server is also cool 😎
hacking mean Cheating the machines
cheating the machines?
that.... is not it
you said you didnt know anything about hacking. then asked for the definition. then said it was wrong. then provided a worse definition. are you ok?
thats where I'll leave it
just kidding
are you kidneying us
lol just a prank bro
"just a joke" sure...
watch camara its prank show😆
jokes are supposed to be funny
who is intrest ??
Goat.
I want us to do a ethical hacking training as a group.
In finance and economics, interest is payment from a debtor or deposit-taking financial institution to a lender or depositor of an amount above repayment of the principal sum (that is, the amount borrowed), at a particular rate. It is distinct from a fee which the borrower may pay to the lender or some third party. It is also distinct from divid...
Now that's a funny joke
seriously
thanks for the 3 laughs tekashitakashi
appreciate the kind donation 👍🏼
oh now i look schizophrenic
why thaksi delete her msg
It's ok. I saw it 🙂
takashi be snapchatting us
😠
ayo how the heck the "echo" AI knows what am I typing ousite the browser? I am not using ytheir attack box I was on my VM .
well it knows how you interact with the target vms
they probably listen on the target VM what commands are being sent and stuff
makes sense
if it actually knows what you are typing on your local vm tell us
then we would be concerned
it was yesterday and yeah probably captured the stuff that I was writing on their target machine
@boreal scarab goddamn it matt
i have one doubt frnds
I have many doubts
ask
oh nothing specific I would ask here
whatever
if you actually have a quest, go ahead
why?
was more of a joke
accept my frnd request
oh no
no thx
Gave +1 Rep to @still pecan (current: #3183 - 1)
🤦
ok
how could we know
dark site??
Greetings
greetings
thats place where all the hackers gather.
dark site obviously 😛
Greetings
some dark web shit or what
not necessarily
I'm not super familiar with this stuff
yeah dark web
dont care too much about it tbh
i have no idea what theyre talking about
and you spelled it correctly?
jeez
I feel like getting dumber again from reading this stuff
was there a point to all this?
I'll answer: no
i take that back. i dont care
