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wary ocean
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Chemicals scare the shit out of me tbh

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Like you mean to tell me this random ass liquid can dissolve my hand, nah I'm good

sinful moon
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You wouldn’t want to live where I do then lol. I live in a city where our chemical facilities take up a good 1/3 of what makes our citie’s area

sturdy sequoia
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haha my mate is a chemist and is also clumsy. its not a good mix

sinful moon
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I won’t say that’s why I’m interested in these videos but I’m sure it contributed a little bit

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We had a chlorine gas leak where half the town had to be evacuated at one point, but no major incidents worthy of the CSB investigating and etc

grizzled sky
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ngl chemistry is the perfect example of no tech being entirely safe;

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and its why i am against people saying to ban llms on the grounds of safety;

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it being unsafe is not in itself a deal breaker, what matters is having a clear understanding and documentation on risk levels and where the risk levels are weighed to the benefits;

sinful moon
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idk who would truly want a ban, but yes all new technology has hazards and it’s up to us to figure out how to safely operate and eventually regulate them

grizzled sky
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especially in some art communities i have been in;

sinful moon
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I usually see the opposite and people being so gun-hoe about LLMs without understanding hallucinations and issues but yeah

grizzled sky
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a lot of the same type of extremism as people saying digital art entirely isn't "Real art";

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or that "cheap" animation like flash animation isn't "Real" animation;

sinful moon
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I get it a bit more in the art community, especially when it’s literally trained on their art without consent, but yeah there’s much more to LLMs and etc than that

grizzled sky
sinful moon
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I’m just not huge on the tech bro side of things where it’s full steam ahead, consequences be damned, people have already died or faced injury through the use of this technology. But yes it’s early days and we’re still figuring this out. Same can be said for cars, or nuclear, or so much more

stoic quarry
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Morning all,

grizzled sky
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knowing the history of anti tech politics more broadly makes it a lot more interesting to me. i enjoyed watching some docs about the anti nuclear reactors movements for instance;

stoic quarry
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6am starts are not fun. My hot take

mossy ocean
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can anyone help me learn how to lag switch

sinful moon
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Yeah I’m 100% pro nuclear reactors, but fair, I was not quite alive for Three Mile Island. I sure was for Fukajima and that just needs better safegards is all

river garden
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what

grizzled sky
stoic quarry
sinful moon
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yeap

grizzled sky
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yep and still people have been lead to believe its uniquely dangerous compared to literally every other fuel all thanks to effective scientific disinfo campaigns;

sinful moon
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I am massively fascinated by nuclear accidents but honestly the fact that they are so darn rare is part of why it’s interesting

grizzled sky
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a lot of them come down to simply bad zoning;

river garden
grizzled sky
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aka bad policy;

stoic quarry
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Was it not slightly cold war era anti-russian sentiment that made people anti-nuclear as well? To an extent anyway

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"Look a Chernobyl, we don't want that!" When it's an extremely rare case

sinful moon
grizzled sky
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like anyone making any major generator that isn't literally a hydro generator right next to the ocean is probably going to have a bad time;

sinful moon
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Also I don’t want to be that person but yes that was freaking Soviet Russia who often were a bit fast and loose with things, but that’s dramatically oversimplifying what was an extremely complex situation lol

stoic quarry
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💯

grizzled sky
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its also about bias in reporting too, the bp oil spill is hardly talked about compared to fukushima as recent examples;

sinful moon
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Yeah that was a massive freaking disaster, if you were alive for that you remember how freaking long it took and what a big deal it was

grizzled sky
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long term the damage from bp is probably many factors of times bigger;

tired wolf
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i hate onions;

grizzled sky
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all comes down to bad risk management and bad policy, and that's why we need people doing the work to measure the potential risk ahead of time;

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fail early and not after you have a globally known oil spill for instance;

sinful moon
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Why is everyone ending their statements in semicolons? I get that it leaves you flexibility for follow up sentences but is this a thing that I am only just noticing?

river garden
grizzled sky
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text quirks are fun;

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also has some specific security uses in a post bot world;

sinful moon
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lol helios just decided to follow suit so I was curious

grizzled sky
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if you have a bot that is impersonating me, and doesn't know my text quirk, it gives a tool to identify it wasn't me for instance;

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if they are spearfishing me that won't work, but most attacks aren't spear fishing for this kind of attack/risk;

sinful moon
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that’s fair but yeah I have my own text quirks I guess, which wear off on my friends lol

wraith fjord
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Hey how is attackbox working? Like if i switch my VPN to nearest location - will it speed up? Will latency go down or its irrelevant of that fact? [P.s - using AB after idk years as i dont have PC anymore]

night peak
grizzled sky
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speaking of text quirks, homestuck is back!;

sinful moon
grizzled sky
wraith fjord
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i should post in site support ig

sinful moon
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But Ellie, how do you handle RDP and HTTPS sessions via your VPS? EZ, ssh tunneling thought

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it’s kind of cursed how well RDP works when SSH tunneled lol

sinful moon
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Nah it’s easy, it just costs money is more like it

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I just rather have an attacker machine that has nothing to do with my home network when interacting with THM/HTM and etc, plus it is persistent unlike attackbox. Sure you can do similar with VMs… but well that’s in your local network and well you can’t without a PC

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inb4 VLANs or more

grizzled sky
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yeah for me i am lazy so i just subscribe mostly for that, plus it supports the development of the site;

sinful moon
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yeah been a sub for years

grizzled sky
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with the holiday discounts its fairly affordable even literally living on disability money atm;

sinful moon
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But even sub doesn’t give you persistance, just gets you Kali

wraith fjord
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Lord knows how long its been that i have studied tryhackme

sinful moon
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Since 2021 for me but yee

grizzled sky
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yeah that's fair, for me that's a feature since i try to keep my host machine notes as a way to log what i learn from each question rather than storing anything on the machines themselves;

sinful moon
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I mean you can do both lol

grizzled sky
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you can, again i am lazy;

wraith fjord
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#unemployed #BusinessColapse #Costcutting #j*b

sinful moon
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I just have a folder for my nmap scans and etc

grizzled sky
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efficient sometimes, but usually just lazy;

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that's 1 thing that being disabled has benefited me, i feel a lot less pressure to do things the "right" way or to push myself as hard as i used to especialyl when i was undiagnosed;

sinful moon
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my home folder on my pentesting server is like htb thm seclists tools and not much else

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I just have a symbolic link to the seclists to make that a bit faster lol

grizzled sky
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knowing your limits helps a lot with recognizing when you should cut effort;

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same reason i am working to set up a loging llm to help automating creation and publishing of blog posts about my progress on my projects;

sinful moon
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I tried to make “Smart Notes” for a time in my note taking software and went overboard, now I take “dumb notes” aka only what I actually need to remember lol

grizzled sky
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got a wordpress website i am going to set up so that eventually i can just work at my own pace, and the logs will automatically be built and organized so i can then create 1 blog post and share it on all social media to create attention to my work and hopefully build up my portfolio and network;

sinful moon
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Eww Wordpress, nevermind I have to host one for work though lol

digital estuary
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hello elizabeth 👋🏼

sinful moon
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Heya

digital estuary
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havent seen you in a LONG time

grizzled sky
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there's a good reason in this case at least;

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wordpress makes social media posting easy for my use case;

stoic quarry
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Hugo blogs are very easy to set up in my experience

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My posts are just .md files

grizzled sky
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def looking at a bunch of options, the main point for me is social media posting and portfolio hosting though;

sinful moon
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I’m just often asked “hey Ellie, can you make this complex system, ideally for free?” and I sorta just do it lol

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so that server is actually a large virtual hosting platform with my own custom Docker Compose setup, I’m proud of that even if one of them contains WordPress and MySQL

grizzled sky
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eventually i can use aws or similar to play around with vps and such;

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and the website server is on a vps, so i have the ability to still use it as a server itself if i ever upgrade its specs;

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wordpress just makes social media automation less of a pain;

sinful moon
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I’d recommend something a bit more sane like DigitalOcean for getting started, those are sane per month fees and not bandwith or use rate charged. There is much cheaper than DigitalOcean it’s just pretty user fiendly to get started with VPSes.

grizzled sky
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doing that using each of the social media proprietary apis and such myself is very annoying to maintain;

sinful moon
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guess lol

river garden
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Well

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U just answered

sinful moon
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Hetzner is another host which is cheaper and oft recommended but a bit less smooth to deploy

grizzled sky
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digitalocean sounds fun, currently i got hostinger but next year i can choose to research prices and see what works best for my use cases;

river garden
grizzled sky
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the main point was just a dumb easy to set up website so i can host my portfolio stuff outside of just github;

sinful moon
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I mean no shame having a .github.io page but fair

grizzled sky
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and besides the sketchy cloud storage solutions;

stoic quarry
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I will say, whenever I see a github.io link I cringe a little

grizzled sky
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i have a background in web and always wanted a website even if i am not going to go into web dev anymore;

sinful moon
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or we can get older with Geocities and Angelfire lol

river garden
sinful moon
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I remember those days lol

stoic quarry
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Vercel too 😶‍🌫️

grizzled sky
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ngl back when homestuck was still new, i first got excited by web and wanted to get into web dev;

river garden
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Bro

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Bro

sinful moon
sturdy sequoia
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contact their support

grizzled sky
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long whindy career for me to eventually head towards soc analyst and eventually app sec;

river garden
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U can use your own domain with vercel

grizzled sky
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to this day i want to make a web based visual novel;

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but not as a career the way i imagined;

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certainly not indie game development anymore;

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though as a hobby it can be fun;

sinful moon
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Not difficult but I’d still much rather play a RenPy game than a browser VN

river garden
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Do it

grizzled sky
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for me the platform is less important now than telling a story;

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just like the medium;

stoic quarry
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RenPy is lovely

grizzled sky
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i was a lot more opinionated about platform and distribution early in my career, both for art and tech;

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nowadays i just want to do cool stuff;

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the tools i use are only as good as what i use them for at this point in my career;

sinful moon
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That’s fair but as a gamer I want a standalone product and not a webpage that could disappear

grizzled sky
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if i do it in renpy or whatev thats fine, i don't plan to sell it;

carmine oasis
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Is there a problem with website?

grizzled sky
carmine oasis
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For me the rooms no load.

grizzled sky
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ideally the goal is a webcomic that was completely foss;

sinful moon
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Like that’s fair, but then you’d have to rehost it instead of running a cross platform executable

grizzled sky
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since it don't want to make it for money;

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same way i want to learn vector art;

sinful moon
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Pen tool is love once you learn it

grizzled sky
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like if i get a commision then cool but its not my career just a hobby;

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learning synth music and remixing for the same reason;

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and how to use a 3d printer;

sinful moon
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Pen tool is practically magical with how much you can do with it

grizzled sky
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if its not for money, its all about the journey for my hobbies;

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if it is about the money like cyber then i want to do something that helps people;

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otherwise i just want to pay rent;

sinful moon
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Sure I have plenty of creative hobbies, just make sure to stick with them instead of getting too distracted by all the shiny things

grizzled sky
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for me breadth is its own reward;

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completion is an illusion;

sinful moon
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yes, but that can also lead to lack of depth

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so it can depend

grizzled sky
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though i do try to design projects with an mvp in mind;

sinful moon
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I know for me I’m very all or nothing about everything I do, and I have to kinda force myself to keep up with some things when I’m not normally in the mood

grizzled sky
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master of only 1 or 2 things but breadth in as many other things too;

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like for security i want to hyper focus on mcp atm;

sinful moon
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One reason why I can never learn a language properly lol, I can’t do the upkeep on it

grizzled sky
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that to me feels like a specific enough specialty that is useful atm as llms gain traction;

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but i also have enough broader interests like apis that i am not going into it with 0 experience;

sinful moon
tired wolf
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i thought you were referring to programming

sinful moon
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nah those are ez in comparison

grizzled sky
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technically you can never fully learn a language in programming;

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because you can always invent new words;

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though i guess in theory that's true of any language if you can convince enough people to use those new words;

tired wolf
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what new words

sinful moon
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I know quite a few programming languages quite well, but if I’m being honest I’d say I’m more of a scripter than a “progammer” but I’ve been told I’m being too modest

grizzled sky
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like in programming you can create a function named almost anything;

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and that itself can add functionality that goes beyond core functions in the language;

tired wolf
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thats just abstractions

sinful moon
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in some very very silly ways too if you choose

grizzled sky
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the point is just that there's not end to learning in programming;

sinful moon
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which kinda leads to obfuscation

tired wolf
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learning a language to the fullest means knowing all the capabilities, limitations and methods

grizzled sky
stoic quarry
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French added words to their language BC they're a bit weird about adopting English words

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Streamer I think was one of the more recent words

sinful moon
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Yeap

grizzled sky
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Zeno's paradoxes are a series of philosophical arguments presented by the ancient Greek philosopher Zeno of Elea (c. 490–430 BC), primarily known through the works of Plato, Aristotle, and later commentators like Simplicius of Cilicia. Zeno devised these paradoxes to support his teacher Parmenides's philosophy of monism, which posits that desp...

tired wolf
stoic quarry
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joueur-animateur en direct

grizzled sky
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this but for progress in a language;

sinful moon
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They’re extremely protective about it, stark contrast with Japanese which just straight up has a ton of English tech words

stoic quarry
grizzled sky
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programming is a moving goal post;

tired wolf
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but something as simple as C, that doesnt have anything abstracted beyond ASM

grizzled sky
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and that's good, if it weren't it wouldn't be as useful;

sinful moon
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Only reason I care is Canada lol, otherwise French isn’t super relevant to me

stoic quarry
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Fair lmao

carmine oasis
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Pro Gamer is better Word.

sinful moon
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I do like a lot of French arthouse stuff but not as exciting as Japanese but Japanese is freaking brutal (besides the honestly more sane grammar)

carmine oasis
grizzled sky
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honestly a part of me wishes we would just agree to all learn mandarin;

sinful moon
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Thing I’m weirded out most about with the Romance languages is all the gendered nouns

grizzled sky
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and then the rest of us would struggle for a big but eventually we'd all have at least 1 language we all know;

sinful moon
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why is pizza female? idfk

grizzled sky
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i could go on and on and on for hours;

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even stuff like male and female plugs still weirds me tf out and that's nothing compared to grammar genders;

sinful moon
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I’m not even alluding to that, it’s just how the language is, but sure. I don’t want to go there either, it just seems silly

tired wolf
stoic quarry
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IMO as long as you try no one really cares how you refer to a table yk

grizzled sky
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its really like 8 different languages smushed together;

stoic quarry
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In France if you try speaking French they're a lot more helpful than if you walk up and order in English

grizzled sky
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not to mention roman characters are objectively garbage;

carmine oasis
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God Father of Gender Words German Language.

tired wolf
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yeah, but in practice, its the most spoken language around the globe

grizzled sky
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not its not;

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that's mandarin;

tired wolf
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it is

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by native and non native

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Mandarin is the most spoken by native speakers

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which are the chinese

sinful moon
tired wolf
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hard to compete against that

stoic quarry
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English being big in science is nice for native soeakers

stoic quarry
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Where my garçons at?

sinful moon
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heh

grizzled sky
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ok so its complicated it seems, english is the most spoken but what level people speak english is self described;

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a lot of languages have english loan words and thus they technically have some english in their vocab;

stoic quarry
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English itself has so many loan words

sinful moon
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I will say that Spanish and French are significantly easier to spell things in than English, although sure I was obs missing my ç there lol, just forgot I could do that on this keyboard

grizzled sky
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either way my point is more just that i hate english as a lanaguage as a native speaker;

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its objectively a terrible language;

stoic quarry
sinful moon
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Hah totally fair

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I’m on an iPad physical keyboard and just tried Option+C and was glad that did the thing

stoic quarry
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Ayy nicr

grizzled sky
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honestly i still think the egyptians were right;

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we should all speak in gifs and pictures;

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which is part of the reason i like kanji characters;

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all of them are basically emojis;

sinful moon
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Yeah I love my iPad if I’m being honest, it kinda is the true netbook we all wanted back in the late 00s and early 2010s when you have a keyboard

grizzled sky
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to this day my laptop is mostly just to remote into my other devices on my network;

sinful moon
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Won’t pretend it’s a full computer because it’s not. You can force it to be but it’s usually better to go with the flow of the confines

stoic quarry
sinful moon
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Heh totally fair, and I could from here but yeah it’s more sometimes I just feel like being a bit more minimal than my fully fledged PCs from time to time

grizzled sky
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computer to me is a job title;

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not a device standard;

river garden
sinful moon
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I mean I’m a diehard Linux user but notably am not diehard FOSS. I care deeply about open source but I don’t die if I use the right tool for the job when its propritary

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as I chat on this proprietary chat platform lol

grizzled sky
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for me foss just offers inherently better security;

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proprietary is fine if locked away in a box;

sinful moon
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Why aren’t we chatting on Signal then c:

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sorry lol

grizzled sky
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i wish we were;

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or on matrix;

sinful moon
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I use Signal tons but yeah for different purposes

grizzled sky
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i don't control thm but i absolutely would move everything to matrix if i could;

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its objectively better than discord in almost everyway;

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specifically because its a universal protocol, not a software set;

sinful moon
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I was less than happy with my experience with Matrix but I guess it’s because I also rather be where the people are

grizzled sky
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there's lots of guis for matrix that make it effectively the same for users of discord;

grizzled sky
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most of my socializing is on signal chats nowadays;

sinful moon
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It’s like Mastodon, it’s lovely but don’t care about it beyond very small infosec.exchange userbase

stoic quarry
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Infosec.exchange mention 🫵 🥳

grizzled sky
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i would never use twitter but if i needed it i would at least consider mastodon;

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if discord ever becomes like twitter i def would leave it forever;

sinful moon
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Literally only got into Twitter for infosec right before it all went to crap lol

stoic quarry
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Lmao nice

sinful moon
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very poor timing

grizzled sky
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same but back in my web dev days;

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when i was just starting to appreciate the value of networking in general;

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until then i never got a facebook account;

stoic quarry
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2023 joined date on my account. Didn't realize how long it's been

sinful moon
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Girl back in my day we had dat web 1.0, what is a social network

grizzled sky
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discord is probably the first main social media besides forums i was on;

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to this day i miss forums so badly;

sinful moon
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we made HTML sites with <color> tags and were happy lol

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heh don’t get me wrong, CSS is wonderful, I’m just half kidding

grizzled sky
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i still like indie web as a movement;

stoic quarry
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Haters will say it's paid follows

grizzled sky
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and that's one of my goals for my non professional website;

sinful moon
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Even my mom made her on Star Trek fan page in raw HTML on Geocities, baller

sinful moon
grizzled sky
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i mostly just want my professional website to be set up first before i have fun and make my indie website where i can do cool stuff like a fake desktop to browse the cool stuff i like;

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i love websites that give the feeling of using a linux desktop instead of just being an infinite scrolling generic design;

sinful moon
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It was just sad to see infosec twitter kinda splinter into all different directions instead of all move to Mastadon as we hoped

grizzled sky
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i have so many ideas for my side project website and webapps when i can dive into that rabbithole of projects as a hobby;

stoic quarry
sinful moon
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That was a truely valuable resource when I was getting into infosec professionally after a life long passion

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agreed

stoic quarry
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But I see a lot of the bigger accounts crossposting which is... Something

grizzled sky
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personally i like federation;

stoic quarry
grizzled sky
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and hate social media consentration;

stoic quarry
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Bluesky isn't federated tho

grizzled sky
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for me the root issue is centralized platforms more generally;

sinful moon
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I just don’t trust Bluesky despite their move to federation, Mastadon is still more my thing but heck it honestly gets confusing after a point

grizzled sky
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hence why i think matrix is the best solution atm;

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and the one i wish had more development longer term;

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it solves a lot of important problems imo that most of social media has atm;

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especially in terms of confidential sharing in bulk;

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which signal theoretically could do but as we saw with group chats thats not realistic in practice;

sinful moon
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Yes that would be great, but same sorta issues will just lead to fragmentation and weirdness if Discord keeps getting more crap. Not everyone will move to the federated solutions, some will stick with the old platform etc etc

grizzled sky
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that's why protocols are imporant, they can be used by old platforms;

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even wordpress is able to be federated now;

sinful moon
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I miss the Instant Messenger days unironically, I had all my chat protocols in one app, Pidign and I was “set for life” until IM died out

grizzled sky
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when you create open protocols, it allows for different implementations while still creating compatibility across different networks;

sinful moon
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Yes theres ways to use Pidgin with modern protocols but less than ideal

grizzled sky
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personally i still like irc;

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and usenet;

sinful moon
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yep you could use Pidign for that too, although fair probably not the best IRC client out there

grizzled sky
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to this day rss is fantastic;

sinful moon
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I have good memories of IRC and still use it here and there to collab on Wikis

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yes I use RSS on the daily

grizzled sky
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it aged like fine wine imo especailly in podcasting;

stoic quarry
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I'd be down to use irc, but no one uses it lmao

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Or not enough people for me to bother

grizzled sky
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spotify can't keep their podcasts proprietary when all their podcasts servers run on rss lol;

sinful moon
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pour one out for our boy Aaron Swartz

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Truly a visionary, really too bad

grizzled sky
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Anyway great chatting, gonna go read some manga before i crash asleep;

sinful moon
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Sounds good, enjoy! I’m more into anime and western comics but wouldn’t mind chatting about either another time c:

grizzled sky
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big into elgoonish shive and dumbing of age too;

sinful moon
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Can’t say I know about those even as a fan of indie comics but sounds good

grizzled sky
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kazu kabushi is probably worth a shoutout too;

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Flight is an American comics anthology series edited by Kazu Kibuishi, showcasing young and innovative artists and writers. Image Comics published the first two volumes. In June 2005 Kibuishi announced that the series would move from Image to Ballantine Books from Volume Three on in an attempt to increase sales through mainstream bookstores. Kib...

sinful moon
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YES

grizzled sky
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lots of great comic collections;

sinful moon
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I freaking loved that and have been trying to track them down

grizzled sky
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i read them back in uni in my uni's library;

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thankfully they're still in my city's public library, just long wait lists a lot of the time;

sinful moon
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Yeah I got mine from local library and loved it

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well read them via, but yep, anyways go enjoy the manga

grizzled sky
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and of course my personal fav calvin and hobbes;

sinful moon
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someday I’ll read more Manga besides the obvious Uzimaki and such

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I’m just much more well versed on western comics and ironically also anime, idk why not manga

grizzled sky
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goodnight punpun is probably the one i would point to as a great one to read that isn't an anime;

sinful moon
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Sounds good, I’ll keep it on my mental list

grizzled sky
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good example of manga being able to experiment a lot more with darker topics compared to what is allowed on tv;

sinful moon
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Yeah that’s my kinda thing for sure

muted tulip
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how do I start?

shut dirge
#

sup chat

still glen
night peak
shut dirge
#

hey how are you

night peak
vapid zephyr
#

hi im playing the overpass room. I successfully get the rsa key, cracked the pass phrase, and when I ssh using the rsa key and correct passphrase, a message”Connection closed by <ip> port <port> shown and i cant successfully log in. Write-ups didnt mention this issue. Is this a bug?

lost pelican
#

Gm

rapid merlin
marsh lark
#

and also connected to vpn?

earnest talon
#

Mooornings 🥳 !

marsh lark
#

mornin 🙂

vapid zephyr
#

I can ping and even rustscan the machine ip, so i guess not the connection problem. I just restarted the machine and still same issue

marsh lark
vapid zephyr
#

22 ssh and 80 http

#

I just specified the port 22 and same issue

marsh lark
#

not of rustscan

#

the sshing process

vapid zephyr
#

Sure

sinful moon
#

you do need to put the id_rsa into your ~/.ssh or feed it in via a flag if not already, but yes screenshot would help

vapid zephyr
#

I entered a wrong passphrase first and then the correct one. Here’s the output

marsh lark
marsh lark
#

probably not 🤣

night peak
marsh lark
#

they're trying to do a challenge box

night peak
#

Ok sorry

vapid zephyr
#

Damn

#

Solved

marsh lark
vapid zephyr
#

No, i believe a different error will show if i did not chmod600

The correct username is james instead of James

#

sinful moon
#

yes *nix is always case sensitive

marsh lark
#

the capital J was a bit weird, so

sinful moon
#

I thought it was really weird you were using a capital but I didn’t remember the room enough to comment

vapid zephyr
#

I used capital as I simply copy and paste this clue

#

Im idiot

sinful moon
#

nah it’s understandable, just usually *nix usernames are all lowercase unless someone decides to get funky

vapid zephyr
#

Learnt an important lesson from this room though

#

Lol

sinful moon
#

you can literally use an Emoji as a valid username in linux since that’s a valid unicode character that is actually just ASCII text in the background

vapid zephyr
#

Thank you

sinful moon
#

if you would want to or if it’s a good idea is another matter entirely lol

#

UTF-8 Unicode is kind of beautiful though, all ASCII is valid Unicode and all Unicode is (usually transparently) valid ASCII

blissful current
sinful moon
#

I guess reminds me of base64 encoding in that way as well

#

every email has to be valid ASCII dat 1970s tech, how to send attachments then…. just send them all as base64

#

lol for a while at work we’d get voicemail failures for a client via email, they were all just base64 WAVs you’d have to convert and spit back out in a useable form to our client

#

just holy heck, you can imagine how much base64 text would comprise the rare 3 minute voice mail, just pages and page of text

#

lol what in particular do you need help with?

night peak
#

Hey hello, your pfp remind me of madhacker in tg

sinful moon
#

It’s a stylized Star-Lord from Guardians of the Galaxy

#

At least… I think

tired wolf
sinful moon
#

Then you need the basics first and TryHackMe teaches both the basics and advance…

#

uh

sturdy sequoia
#

no illeal activity

sinful moon
#

that’s not how we operate, you need to abide by ethical principles with this knowledge

warped sundial
#

hey guys i just got hacked by a guy from austria who was trying to steal all my accounts, he managed to get away with some damage before i stopped him and made him put his ip address in order to log into one of my accounts, i got his ip. What should i do now?

tired wolf
#

you got a proxy ip

sinful moon
#

That’s no excuse, there has to be an official bug bounty program which lists the site as in scope and open to security testing

tired wolf
#

austria is notorious for those

sturdy sequoia
warped sundial
#

what authorities bro

sturdy sequoia
#

Do you have permission to test the site?

night peak
lost pelican
#

Spend the time wiser

warped sundial
vapid zephyr
#

Go bugcrowd, earn money and test at the same time

sturdy sequoia
#

If you don't have permission it's illegal

sinful moon
#

Not with this attitude you won’t. You need official permission to be doing this activity, otherwise that is illegal

marsh lark
#

@mossy river @cloud quiver @gusty inlet

#

@plush needle @umbral bay

#

now I pinged everyone 🤣

tired wolf
#

thats still illegal lmao

marsh lark
#

you ask for permission

lost pelican
#

Maybe ask permission, identify them first, and let them know 😄
And a government systems, wont have that low security that you could exploit them with no knowledge.
You are not the first guy thinking about exploiting them.

night peak
#

I forgot the admin active

marsh lark
#

you need a contract and everything

warped sundial
marsh lark
#

then they won't give you permission

warped sundial
#

ok that cant be true

marsh lark
#

where are the mods...

warped sundial
sinful moon
#

Responsible disclosure is how to handle these things when you’ve found a security flaw, but with how you went about this, there’s nothing to say the goverment won’t arrest you for the same activity having not done so ethnically or legally

sturdy sequoia
#

no

night peak
#

Yeah ethically

#

But illegal no

sinful moon
#

Absolutely not with this attitude.

sturdy sequoia
lost pelican
#

I think you should start on Tryhackme if you are interested about cybersecurity and build your foundation. And stay ethical. After you know what you should and you want to do, then find jobs.

sinful moon
#

Then you have to do it right and ensure you’re actually allowed to do these things. But yes this is a site founded upon doing it the right way

warped sundial
#

shittt

grim sparrowBOT
#

:hammer: devil3700#0 has been banned.

marsh lark
#

-# finally

tired wolf
#

-# meow

tired wolf
twin ridgeBOT
#

Gave +1 Rep to @lost pelican (current: #3182 - 1)

tired wolf
#

i use that for plymouth

sinful moon
#

Myself, I just much rather see the Linux boot text go scrolling by, but now adays it boots so fast you can’t even appriciate it lol. I still enjoy it though

tired wolf
#

i've deliberately made my system boot with 3 seconds delay

#

just to stare at the loading screen

sinful moon
#

oh lol I was expecting you to say you made that delay for grub or whatever but uh that’s kinda silly

#

I for one do not mind my system booting in under 15 seconds lol

#

but I’m old school enough that I used to just do the good old startx to start my GUI back in the day. Those would be a decent minute of boot on those old HDDs and I’d appreciate being dumped into tty only instead of a Display Manager

tired wolf
#

ricing is a rabbit hole

sinful moon
#

I’m not even ricing, Linux just boots that fast lol

tired wolf
#

i've went from theming an app, to ricing my desktop, to modifying my boot process, to writing grub extensions

sinful moon
#

Been a while since I was super anal about my themes and made my own in the 00s

tired wolf
#

canon *nix order

sinful moon
#

idk missing actually building your install up from scratch

#

well even if by packages, I don’t mean LFS

#

I did it once and that was enough for a lifetime lol

tired wolf
#

i should give that a go

sinful moon
#

I’d highly recommend it, just any distro that gives you a tty and you go from there and build it out how you see fit

tired wolf
#

did that with nixos

sinful moon
#

Really teaches you alot about how Linux all fits together and how modular it is

tired wolf
#

but i wasnt really building much

#

since its one configuration file that i'd modify

sinful moon
#

well Nix is kinda weird anyways lol

tired wolf
#

to install a display manager and whatnot

sinful moon
#

not really a general view of how you’d do it in a “normal” distro

tired wolf
#

for sure

sinful moon
#

I’m just thinking more Arch, Gentoo, or even as I used to do way back in the day Ubuntu minimal installs

tired wolf
#

arch would be fun

#

but my lazyness provokes archinstall

sinful moon
#

It sounds like you’re ore than ready so for once I can actually recommend it, just yeah I only do archinstall because I have nearly two decades of installing Arch manually

#

well I say that but there was actually an installer before archinstall, the Arch Installation Framework

#

back in the day, Arch actually greeted you with this menu

#

still only got you to tty unless you went out of your way dramatically, but many find this interesting

#

it just went unmaintained and was dropped

tired wolf
#

chronological order of arch

sinful moon
#

But yes with the experience you currently have, I do think a full manual Arch install would help teach you even more which is not something I say to everyone for sure

tired wolf
#

my first experience with linux was arch, i'd say a year ago

sinful moon
#

I’ve been an Arch user since 2008 and I usually tell people not to use Arch since they’re not ready lol

tired wolf
#

took me a lot of willpower to flash that iso onto an usb

sinful moon
#

oh that’s wild

tired wolf
#

and to boot it up

#

i had no clue what documentation was

#

the installer suggested archinstall

sinful moon
#

You made it sound like you’d used Linux for significantly longer

tired wolf
#

so as any sane homosapien would do, i ran it

tired wolf
#

i'd guess about 400 hours just on nixos

sinful moon
#

The Arch Wiki doesn’t actually suggest archinstall unless that’s dramatically changed, it just may mention it exists.

tired wolf
#

(i've read the thesis)

sinful moon
#

There’s just a very clear Installation Guide with all the steps

#

archinstall should only be used by people pretty experienced with Arch and is a platform for further automation beyond the basics configs they give for you to supply your own

#

The best thing about Arch, when something breaks, you did it and know how to fix it, which is also the worst thing about Arch lol

tired wolf
#

do you ever have package conflicts

sinful moon
#

Not often but when I do they’re easy to resolve

tired wolf
#

that was my main concern when switching to nixos from arch

sinful moon
#

I mean I was an AUR maintainer for years as well

#

I mean if you’re happy with Nix then no reason to switch

#

I was just suggusting this as a learning experience, which can be done from a VM or however you’d like

tired wolf
still pecan
#

Helooooooooooo

tired wolf
#

i was considering omarch, since it's been gaining hype

#

but theres nothing much to it

sinful moon
#

I am super bias though, I know a lot of people thing that NixOS is the best thing since sliced bread, but how different it is from any traditional *nix system appeals to me less. That doesn’t mean I don’t think you made the right choice, just not for me

tired wolf
#

and i'd be cursing myself, since the installation process encrypts your entire disk

sinful moon
#

I’ve heard nearly nothing about omarch other than it exists

sinful moon
#

I generally have a dim view of Arch derritives though

still pecan
#

What are you all doing???

marsh lark
sinful moon
#

lol -nearly unreadable gif is another factor

still pecan
sinful moon
#

I just don’t like my binaries to be in crazy hashed directories and do things completely different from every other *nix there is. I get that there’s tools to manage it but I’m not huge on abstractions like that

#

but again that is just me

tired wolf
#

familiarity factor could be the case

#

me, who had no experience with *nix

#

you, who are already deep in the traditional *nix hole

#

hashing file names is an innovation

sinful moon
#

I just don’t have a huge reason to keep multiple copies of the same app around is fundamentally why I don’t really need it. When I do, we do have a solution to that in *nix land and that’s just to… make them versioned or symbolic link them depending on he need

tired wolf
#

its the only way the official package repository could handle conflicts

sinful moon
#

Like that is a thing, but we do have solutions for that already that don’t require rethinking the wheel

sinful moon
#

that’s why there’s versioned copies of libraries in /usr/lib and they’re not spread all over the place

still pecan
#

Who wants to play with me????

tired wolf
#

say you're a SWE

#

you'd need to play around with different node versions

sinful moon
#

there’s still solutions for that

tired wolf
#

(or just libraries conflicting dependencies)

marsh lark
sinful moon
still pecan
sinful moon
#

bit of Docker goes a long way

#

especially for node stuff

marsh lark
tired wolf
marsh lark
#

idk

sinful moon
#

things get extremely messy if you just have a bunch of node versions but fair idk how Nix sanely handles that

tired wolf
#

isolation

sinful moon
#

yes what containers do

still pecan
#

idk mean ??

sinful moon
#

so you modify the entire principle of how every binary works including freaking Firefox just for niche use cases instead

marsh lark
#

literally

still pecan
#

your funny person dude

#

😆

tired wolf
digital estuary
#

hi donut 👋🏼

still pecan
#

who ??

marsh lark
digital estuary
marsh lark
#

how are u?

marsh lark
sinful moon
#

I guess I should just stop without more Nix experience than the limited docs I’ve read since I may have been lead astray, but I just don’t need every binary to be abstracted personally

still pecan
twin ridgeBOT
#

Gave +1 Rep to @marsh lark (current: #30 - 369)

digital estuary
# marsh lark how are u?

doing fine, was sick but im recovering well, slowly introducing studying back even though i still feel dizzy from time to time, thanks for asking 👍🏼

twin ridgeBOT
#

Gave +1 Rep to @marsh lark (current: #30 - 370)

night peak
#

I want to laugh but i don't wanna disturb people serious conversation here

marsh lark
#

hope you get better soon!

marsh lark
digital estuary
sinful moon
#

I think it would be better to abstract only the single binaries you need abstracted

still pecan
#

😆

sinful moon
#

But again that’s just me, NixOS is perfectly valid and I admit I don’t know tons, just the basic principles of how it works. Every OS is valid if it works for you c:

marsh lark
still pecan
#

recently my BlackArch was crashed 😩

night peak
#

I'm absorbing Elizabeth knowledge and the fallen star disturb the atmosphere of chat

sinful moon
#

lol I have more knowledge but I think it’s time to wind down with silly Japanese TV shows

#

GameCenter CX more specifically

still pecan
#

We need to take ethical hacking to the next level in a useful way.

marsh lark
#

we use ethical hacking

#

in a useful way

#

already

river garden
#

are u trying to tempt us Lucifer

marsh lark
still pecan
carmine oasis
#

I just finished one more module of advanced web exploitation.

marsh lark
#

what do you mean?

river garden
still pecan
carmine oasis
marsh lark
night peak
#

'Dude' again

marsh lark
night peak
#

Don't call me dude pls I'm too young

quick blaze
#

You can call anybody dude.

river garden
#

is there an age limit to dude

still pecan
digital estuary
#

@quick blaze 🕵🏼

marsh lark
#

I'm 14, and I don't mind being called dude

quick blaze
marsh lark
#

🤣

river garden
still pecan
quick blaze
marsh lark
still pecan
#

im 20

marsh lark
river garden
#

wtf

quick blaze
river garden
#

I just got a group chat invitation for sms

#

didnt even know that exists

marsh lark
#

people might not like being called dude

quick blaze
#

Dude.

#

It's just a word. To informally address somebody.

#

It's not that serious.

#

Dude.

grim sparrowBOT
#

Done!

marsh lark
#

idiots?

river garden
#

check out the claudeai subreddit

marsh lark
#

idiots don't sound very nice

river garden
#

there is a mod that calls everyone geezer

marsh lark
#

then thats a problem 🤣

#

I'm then reporting a mod to a mod /j

quick blaze
marsh lark
#

🤷

#

I aint a geezer

#

hehe

still pecan
#

dudee

quick blaze
quick blaze
marsh lark
river garden
#

jamey pull up the guy calling other people geezer

quick blaze
sinful moon
#

I’m an old lady compared to all of you apparently

marsh lark
quick blaze
night peak
quick blaze
sinful moon
#

I think geezer is more male coded lol

marsh lark
still pecan
#

child

marsh lark
#

like: "Child.."

quick blaze
still pecan
#

ok how i say??

sinful moon
#

I’m in my gasp 30s which makes me ancient by discord standards lol

marsh lark
quick blaze
quick blaze
river garden
#

blablablablaa

marsh lark
quick blaze
#

Yay.

#

No more SI.

marsh lark
#

just talk like you are talking to another person, not a child

blissful current
river garden
sinful moon
#

Haha I know, just always taken aback when I see someone who I considered one of the more mature people in the chat to say they’re 14 but nothing wrong with that

quick blaze
#

😄

sinful moon
#

I know a lot of people much much older who are immature and type like crap lol

river garden
blissful current
marsh lark
quick blaze
marsh lark
#

thats all

river garden
#

makes me want to punch my fn monitor

marsh lark
river garden
#

auto mute

#

perma

sinful moon
#

I’d call them a teen and they are one so that’s fair

quick blaze
# marsh lark so?

So I can't call you a man or a child but I can call you donut? 😄

digital estuary
#

geezer, huh? sounds familiar

marsh lark
blissful current
#

lemme file a complaint to Police AB_Police pepepolicecar ...talking to a 14yo /j

quick blaze
still pecan
night peak
#

Calm down people

quick blaze
#

😭

digital estuary
#

what the fuck is happening why is everyone ANGRY

still pecan
#

im good boy

quick blaze
river garden
night peak
sinful moon
#

Donut was the one I thought was much older than they were because they communicate much more sanely than half of you lol

quick blaze
#

😄

marsh lark
#

I used to like bleu, but now, I can't see the old bleu

quick blaze
still pecan
marsh lark
#

doesn't change anything

#

your talking style

#

has changed

quick blaze
blissful current
quick blaze
marsh lark
#

I'm starting to see bleu as more like Scrubz

quick blaze
river garden
marsh lark
#

and... I kinda don't wanna see that

marsh lark
marsh lark
#

but I like the old bleu

sinful moon
#

Anyways this has devolved into brain rot. I miss Infosec chat. Back to my show

quick blaze
river garden
frozen gull
quick blaze
river garden
sinful moon
#

Nor do I care to lol

night peak
river garden
quick blaze
night peak
#

And they are all arguing

frozen gull
#

how do u become a script kiddie by saving nmap scan lmao

quick blaze
river garden
blissful current
gloomy falcon
still pecan
#

does anyone in scrit kide

marsh lark
#

things have definitely changed

rapid merlin
quick blaze
#

@cloud quiver We allowing people to minimod now? 😄

river garden
#

dont send messages twice; be warned

blissful current
#

minimod alert alert

quick blaze
frozen gull
#

im lspeey chat

#

reccomend a coffee

#

brand

quick blaze
#

@digital estuary's faultt honestly.

quick blaze
marsh lark
frozen gull
#

which one

quick blaze
frozen gull
#

nestle has many brews

#

types

digital estuary
frozen gull
#

i want espresso

digital estuary
#

thats my reaction to the blame

frozen gull
#

but its expensive

still pecan
#

what

still pecan
#

im a good one

night peak
#

And now she gone

frozen gull
marsh lark
river garden
#

I'll take all the blame

frozen gull
#

i learnt a powerlifting technique for bench

still pecan
#

If so, can I send a message?

river garden
digital estuary
#

wish me luck guys
about to try drink coffee after i was awfully sick and was only able to eat bread for 2 days
ill either lose all my recovery progress or get to drink coffee

frozen gull
#

im able to bench 200lbs at 155 bw

marsh lark
frozen gull
river garden
still pecan
#

sorry frnds i quite this grp

river garden
#

leg drive all the way

frozen gull
#

leg drive i know it

#

but there is a new technique

river garden
#

I've done powerlifting

#

new technique sounds pretty sus ngl

frozen gull
#

placing bar on ur wrist bone for joint locking

#

alignment

river garden
#

that sounds terrible

frozen gull
#

its good

#

works wel

river garden
#

maybe I'm just misunderstanding it

frozen gull
#

wait

#

imma send u tte video

river garden
#

I shouldnt be immediately dismissive sry

gloomy falcon
frozen gull
digital estuary
river garden
digital estuary
#

i dont know

frozen gull
digital estuary
#

im 20kg away from a 2 plate

frozen gull
#

i bench 90

#

1rm

#

10 more kgs and i hit 100

river garden
#

my record was 300 pounds

digital estuary
river garden
#

which is not too impressive for actual powerlifting

#

was my weakest discipline coolguy

frozen gull
digital estuary
frozen gull
digital estuary
frozen gull
#

not lifting

digital estuary
#

get well soon

#

!!!

frozen gull
#

its been a year dw bout it

#

it hurt once in a while cuz rotator cuff was shattered

gloomy falcon
marsh lark
still pecan
#

who use BlackArch os ??

digital estuary
gloomy falcon
frozen gull
#

its not that easy to doxx bro ion think he can through discord

river garden
marsh lark
twin ridgeBOT
#

Gave +1 Rep to @frozen gull (current: #2091 - 2)

gloomy falcon
still pecan
digital estuary
river garden
marsh lark
river garden
digital estuary
river garden
#

I do miss powerlifting

#

was my shit

#

I was really good

digital estuary
still pecan
#

gauys who use honeyport????

digital estuary
#

i try to keep a bigger emphasis on "strength building" > "bodybuilding" as i find it more functional and useful

river garden
#

you can get farther wrt strength w/o roids

digital estuary
still pecan
#

someone try to access my network ??

#

yes bro

#

but i don't know who is that person

#

why

still pecan
#

ok bro

bronze bough
#

I wanted to ask if the wreath room`s network problem has solved?

bronze bough
#

But I`m still not able to ping it

sturdy sequoia
still pecan
#

restart to ping it work

bronze bough
still pecan
#

are you subscribed users??

bronze bough
#

nope

#

not yet

still pecan
sturdy sequoia
#

im really suss of people whos discord account is only a day old

bronze bough
sturdy sequoia
still pecan
sturdy sequoia
still pecan
#

im nope

#

i don't know about hacking

plush needle
sturdy sequoia
still pecan
#

yes

#

hacking is myth

sturdy sequoia
#

what?

bronze bough
still pecan
#

hacking is myth story

marsh lark
still pecan
#

ok so you say whats is hacking ??

sturdy sequoia
marsh lark
river garden
#

how can mirrors be real if your eyes arent

marsh lark
#

of course

#

thats only unethical hacking

#

hacking can also be red teaming and blue teaming

river garden
river garden
#

guy that came up with this must be a fn genius

marsh lark
#

then what is the definition

river garden
#

donut stap taking every bait cri

marsh lark
#

don't worry

rapid merlin
#

Yes @river garden that is really nice tag I love that cuz it's rare

#

And server is also cool 😎

still pecan
#

hacking mean Cheating the machines

marsh lark
#

that.... is not it

sturdy sequoia
marsh lark
#

thats where I'll leave it

river garden
sturdy sequoia
#

lol just a prank bro

marsh lark
#

"just a joke" sure...

still pecan
#

watch camara its prank show😆

sturdy sequoia
#

jokes are supposed to be funny

river garden
still pecan
#

who is intrest ??

quick blaze
still pecan
#

I want us to do a ethical hacking training as a group.

river garden
# still pecan who is intrest ??

In finance and economics, interest is payment from a debtor or deposit-taking financial institution to a lender or depositor of an amount above repayment of the principal sum (that is, the amount borrowed), at a particular rate. It is distinct from a fee which the borrower may pay to the lender or some third party. It is also distinct from divid...

sturdy sequoia
still pecan
digital estuary
#

thanks for the 3 laughs tekashitakashi

#

appreciate the kind donation 👍🏼

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oh now i look schizophrenic

still pecan
sturdy sequoia
river garden
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takashi be snapchatting us

digital estuary
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😠

shrewd dune
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ayo how the heck the "echo" AI knows what am I typing ousite the browser? I am not using ytheir attack box I was on my VM .

river garden
digital estuary
shrewd dune
river garden
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then we would be concerned

shrewd dune
still pecan
river garden
still pecan
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i have one doubt frnds

river garden
still pecan
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ask

river garden
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oh nothing specific I would ask here

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whatever

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if you actually have a quest, go ahead

still pecan
river garden
still pecan
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accept my frnd request

marsh lark
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oh no

river garden
twin ridgeBOT
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Gave +1 Rep to @still pecan (current: #3183 - 1)

marsh lark
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🤦

still pecan
marsh lark
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how could we know

still pecan
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dark site??

narrow yew
river garden
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what is daimand

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demon or what

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or diamond

marsh lark
still pecan
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thats place where all the hackers gather.

sturdy sequoia
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dark site obviously 😛

rain socket
river garden
marsh lark
river garden
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I'm not super familiar with this stuff

marsh lark
river garden
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dont care too much about it tbh

sturdy sequoia
still pecan
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dark web site

river garden
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and you spelled it correctly?

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jeez

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I feel like getting dumber again from reading this stuff

still pecan
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site name

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site name = my demons

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But it's difficult to open an account there.

sturdy sequoia
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was there a point to all this?

digital estuary
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i am

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so lost

marsh lark
digital estuary
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i have no idea where we even started

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😓

river garden
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sounds like a terrible idea

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no thx

sturdy sequoia
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i take that back. i dont care