johnny shpuld i switch my dreams
#general
river garden
looks interesting / good
but its going to be tough to make a comic in this style
just takes too much time
river garden
I would imagine at least
pine peak
1 page is like few days
If i dont do drugs
If i get high then its like a week or more
river garden
I mean berserk / new one punch man is similar
night peak
Rukia
fervent cove
yeah berserk is highly detailed
pine peak
yeah berserk is highly detailed
U have cool pfp what do u think of my pages
river garden
yeah berserk is highly detailed
but the guy also had no life as far as I know
river garden
Nothing I'm just saying hello
yello
fervent cove
U have cool pfp what do u think of my pages
it looks pretty cool. looks demented
pine peak
it looks pretty cool. looks demented
what is demented
pine peak
someone donate me money for weed 1 marker and few beers
Plz
And a sketch book
And thm premiumā¦
and a new charger for thinkpad
I ate the cable
river garden
And thm premiumā¦
u even doing thm?
pine peak
u even doing thm?
i couldnt do it recently i had alot of things
fervent cove
weeds too expensive
pine peak
I was working 12 h a day
and had school problems
i went drunk to school and got 2 Aās
river garden
i went drunk to school and got 2 Aās
ehm
pine peak
ššššš
fervent cove
then why are u poor
pine peak
Bro these hackers DOING anything
river garden
I swear if your family doesnt allow you to see a psychologist / psychiatrist I'm going to sue them
austere verge
I swear if your family doesnt allow you to see a psychologist / psychiatrist I'm...
We went no contact
She was pretty harsh about it too
Just said she wants to be alone and doesnāt want to talk about it anymore
Told me to forget about her
And said not to text her anymore
So
Itās officially over ig
pine peak
then why are u poor
I spent money on weedš„²
pine peak
I swear if your family doesnt allow you to see a psychologist / psychiatrist I'm...
Are u talking to me or ray in fancy letters
river garden
Are u talking to me or ray in fancy letters
to you
river garden
We went no contact
She was pretty harsh about it too
Just said she wants to be a...
its ok we'll get you a real gf next time
fervent cove
my gf is ai
austere verge
its ok we'll get you a real gf next time
hook me up 
rose creek
I spent money on weedš„²
this is the start of mr robot
pine peak
Plus i got A in school
river garden
my gf is ai
I am AI
blissful current
fervent cove
uhm
pine peak
https://tenor.com/view/cat-annoyed-stare-side-eye-gif-16732086699915766519
I mean i kinda did go crazy a bit but i think it was just bc of mixing alc and drugs
fervent cove
I mean i kinda did go crazy a bit but i think it was just bc of mixing alc and d...
what drugs
river garden
I mean i kinda did go crazy a bit but i think it was just bc of mixing alc and d...
bro we all know you need a psychologist
pine peak
I wanna get a lip piercing so BAD
river garden
at the very minimum
river garden
to what tho
cookie
pine peak
what drugs
im hoping it was weed but it had some weird stuff on it prob laced with horse
Horse is heroin
At least here
fervent cove
no one laces weed lmao
pine peak
im free from benzos tho
rose creek
you need help brother
rose creek
no one laces weed lmao
100% do
pine peak
no one laces weed lmao
Maybe if its legal in ur country
fervent cove
im in the US
rose creek
bad place to be a hacker
river garden
Wanna see a picture i took
not if its another dead pigeon
pine peak
bleak quartz
They spray it with heroin or resolved mdma
Discussing drugs is literally not allowed and is sickening anyways
pine peak
ignore my work clothes plz
river garden
they are alive; thats a good start
pine peak
they are alive; thats a good start
YAYYYYAY
pine peak
they are alive; thats a good start
Johnny
should i dir my hair
or should i get a piercing
I dont have money for both
river garden
should i dir my hair
I don't know you enough to answer that
lip piercing as a dude has high cringe potential
pine peak
Discussing drugs is literally not allowed and is sickening anyways
Sorry sigma wont happen again
dawn wren
Is Echo broken it doesnt seem to load up correctly
rose creek
100% just keep going your getting beter this takes a bit to get 100% and your never 100% but learning
bleak quartz
Sorry sigma wont happen again
The fact you think it's funny is weird as well
pine peak
lip piercing as a dude has high cringe potential
how do u know if im a dude or a girlā¦
Im actually
a octopus
pine peak
The fact you think it's funny is weird as well
Oki
river garden
how do u know if im a dude or a girlā¦
think we had this discussion already
pine peak
think we had this discussion already
When
loud marlin
each octopus hand have own brain =/
pine peak
each octopus hand have own brain =/
WOW
molten tartan
100% just keep going your getting beter this takes a bit to get 100% and your ne...
appreciate the response, thanks
twin ridgeBOT
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pine peak
im that smart
loud marlin
no
pine peak
Dang it
rose creek
appreciate the response, thanks
np keep going bro
lament meteor
maybe make a checklist of things you try in order for any CTF - that way you can basically have a cheat sheet that reminds you of the different steps, attacks, tools, etc
gusty inlet
Sorry sigma wont happen again
molten tartan
maybe make a checklist of things you try in order for any CTF - that way you can...
good point, thank you!
twin ridgeBOT
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pine peak
https://tenor.com/view/im-looking-brett-stanford-how-ridiculous-im-taking-a-peek...
U dont have to look
They are always looking
Anyway
fervent cove
i love job applications that ask for my resume then proceed to have multiple pages asking of everything thats already on my resume and require that i fill it out
shut hawk
automation ā¢
rose creek
i love job applications that ask for my resume then proceed to have multiple pag...
felt
pine peak
https://tenor.com/view/good-boy-pat-on-head-stitch-gif-6929366788372516752
ŠŃ Š°Ń
What
river garden
rose creek
jack how does it feel to be as big shot as you are
river garden
jack how does it feel to be as big shot as you are
I'm not a big shot
pine rover
rose creek
0xf how is that not big
river garden
0xf how is that not big
that doesnt mean that much
rose creek
ok how many boxs did you finsh
river garden
there is a huge variety in how skilled some1 is at a rank
e.g. same nr points in challenges means much more than in walkthroughs
river garden
ok how many boxs did you finsh
fervent cove
top 1% is prtty easy
rose creek
how do i show mine
blissful current
go on profile , take screenshot
river garden
I think I'm sleep deprived
blissful current
I think I'm sleep deprived
same
river garden
I feel pretty weird and uncomfortable rn
probably in combination with being sick
think I'll go to bed soon
river garden
youll get muted
blissful current
river garden
I will
blissful current
today and yesterday i had to go for classes in college to teach
with my main job's work too
and here i am (was) watching anime and its now past 2AM instead of sleeping
river garden
jeepers
blissful current
rose creek
ouch but it works i guess
loud marlin
205 gb backup =/
rose creek
lol sorry
blissful current
rose creek
flash bang out
rose creek
i am learning to be pentester not a photo editer
blissful current
river garden
i am learning to be pentester not a photo editer
blissful current
aight i'mma head out to sleep i think ....or atleast try to sleep lol
unless u find me lurking around ...again 
rose creek
https://tenor.com/view/cat-annoyed-stare-side-eye-gif-16732086699915766519
do you just store a bunch of cat pics
river garden
do you just store a bunch of cat pics
blissful current
do you just store a bunch of cat pics
i have 10 cats ....
so half of my gallery are their photos and you wouldn't find a single photo of myself lmao
rose creek
lol
zinc aspen
HI
rose creek
hi
lament meteor
does anyone run safari while completing rooms on THM?
long lotus
hi guys
sand trench
for some reason I cant see your message
river garden
https://tenor.com/view/excelente-burns-gif-18078074
gusty inlet
Anyone wanna have fun on a box in VC in a few?
sand trench
Anyone wanna have fun on a box in VC in a few?
nope... watching swedish politics talk about why we might need to change our constitution related to people search sites vs GDPR
maybe not the most fun thingy to watch
but it is important to shadow
loud orbit
Anyone wanna have fun on a box in VC in a few?
How much do u study a day bruh šš
sand trench
How much do u study a day bruh šš
if they are anything like shadow:
at least 5 hours
river garden
I feel miserable
you'll get over it
get some distraction
do some thm
play some video games
meet with people irl
pine peak
night peak
Emo art?
pine peak
im making a comic on after life
austere verge
Maybe weāre together in it sigh
river garden
Maybe weāre together in it sigh
together in what
loud orbit
if they are anything like shadow:
at least 5 hours
Straight ?
sand trench
Straight ?
mrow or meowth
sand trench
hahaha
night peak
You like black/aesthetic drawing
austere verge
The afterlife duh
austere verge
No
Nobody is dying
At least I hope not
She says she needs to isolate herself to heal
Wouldnāt explain why tho
river garden
bro
I don't think discord relationships are the way to go
alright
last chance to say sth or ask sth
then the shop closes
shop is closed now
sand trench
what did the shop sell??
pine peak
I don't think discord relationships are the way to go
I WINT BE INFOREEDSD
DONT TURN UR BACK ON MEEEE
I WONT BEBE IGNOREDDDD
FUCK THAT
BUY BENZOS
loud orbit
what did the shop sell??
That
scarlet nimbus
When you work the night shift at Soc and have nothing to do
(my colleague started reading Sun Tzu's The Art of War, which I brought him)
loud orbit
When you work the night shift at Soc and have nothing to do
(my colleague starte...
He or u work it
rose creek
htb shop vs thm shop
strong fjord
Thm all day
Was gonna buy something from htb
Their shipping fee 
Almost had a heart attack
rose creek
really going to go look at the shipping fee hold please
stable pier
oolala
fast inlet
The quality of their stickers is fantastic
rose creek
but htb has so much more i wish thm had more options like htb
cedar leaf
sand trench
The quality of their stickers is fantastic
well you missed out on cheesecon stickers
fast inlet
whats this owlsec channel ya'll are in
sand trench
Is it annual
it is at defcon and that only happens once a year so yes
fast inlet
server*
strong fjord
Ohh
rose creek
any good boxs to help me learn
sturdy sequoia
Help you learn what?
sand trench
any good boxs to help me learn
but if you want easy check out the last few years of advent of cyber
rose creek
ok
dark wolf
ok
fervent cove
ok
rich jackal
ok
winged nimbus
winged nimbus
trying to get wifi from the next state over?
yes
winged nimbus
what is that
you were correct, high gain wifi antena
fervent cove
lmao
winged nimbus
and walk around with the helmet and laptop
i kinda want to stick it on a pole
just testing it i can see all the routers on my street
fervent cove
based
dark wolf
How about wearing that and walking around comicon with a laptop
nobody would suspect a thing!
attach the other antenna to the backpack
winged nimbus
i kinda want to connect it to a rasp pi and set the rasp pi to be a hotspot
fervent cove
vigor
dark wolf
Hiya Kami!!!
fervent cove
how are u sane
winged nimbus
Auckland City Free Wifi
yes
dark wolf
How am I sane? I don't know that I am. I don't think anyone has ever called me that
How are you?
dark wolf
who needs sanity
fervent cove
titan level when
fervent cove
š
dark wolf
I always get highly motivated for near 3 months and then lose interest, but trying to keep this one going
dark wolf
Minecraft, Flight Simulator, Medieval Dynasty, VR Poker
HD Poker .. the poker ones were fun, go to the smaller tables and go all in each hand
winged nimbus
fervent cove
i wish it was a lot less socially acceptable
dark wolf
YEah, there are better things that are less socially scceptable go figure
fervent cove
took me like 4 days to get over my recent hang over
night peak
airodump-ng --domain-expansion wlan0mon
winged nimbus
airodump-ng --domain-expansion wlan0mon
i could try that out
it can't do 5ghz though
dark wolf
you need takashidump-ng for 5ghz
night peak
I'm using alias command just for fun
night peak
Follow up with: You pay the shipment deposite your money to me so i can ship my laptop to you
dark wolf
Oh, look, everyone is the first emailer
fervent cove
ok i spent 75$ on uber eats guys
fervent cove
still does hurt everytime but its inevitable
dark wolf
Yup, it's a good convenience
If they had that when I was younger, I wouldn't have had to have ditched all those cops.
sand trench
meep moop time for sleep sloop to the beep boop
dark wolf
night shadow
grim sparrowBOT
Done!
twin ridgeBOT
Gave +1 Rep to @grim sparrow (current: #273 - 34)
sturdy sequoia
oh haha, it gave rep to the bot
plucky cloud
im not a hacker
dark wolf
awesome, i'm not an astronaut
plucky cloud
im serious
rich jackal
none of us start as hackers
plucky cloud
thanks
dark wolf
very strange way to say hello, but hello to you and welcome
plucky cloud
what is the definition of a hacker?
sturdy sequoia
what is the definition of a hacker?
someone who hacks
plucky cloud
what makes someone a hacker
sturdy sequoia
what makes someone a hacker
its just a word. it doesnt really matter
dark wolf
Accessing resources you don't have permission to
by using vulnerabilities or social engineering or exploits
plucky cloud
but what does it mean is it to get or access intel you wouldnt have access in the first place, prohibited info?
prohibited places
sturdy sequoia
there are also ethical hackers
plucky cloud
Accessing resources you don't have permission to
oh ok thanks
twin ridgeBOT
Gave +1 Rep to @dark wolf (current: #91 - 104)
sturdy sequoia
i cant tell if youre being serious or sarcastic
cerulean hill
Letās say Iāve found that Apple signed configuration data resolving to an AWS server. Wouldnāt this be a serious privacy concern ?
plucky cloud
i cant tell if youre being serious or sarcastic
wdym? I don't live my life with sarcasm everything I say is meant to be heard
boreal scarab
plucky cloud
if you don't get it or think its stupid thats on you lol
sturdy sequoia
this is a serious comment?
fervent cove
?
plucky cloud
this is a serious comment?
what a dumbass
fervent cove
i think ur getting baited
fervent cove
ur baiting
sturdy sequoia
i try giving new people the benefit of the doubt
sturdy sequoia
ive only been here a couple of weeks. but yer, so many shit posters end up in this channel for some reason
plucky cloud
can you first explain why so you think im baiting? It would make the conversation easier and you guys are the ones baiting by the way
fervent cove
i think thm advertises so a lot of ppl come in from other places
sturdy sequoia
can you first explain why so you think im baiting? It would make the conversatio...
the first sign was you asked what a hacker is in a hacker related discord
fervent cove
some ppl show up and dont even know what thm is lol
plucky cloud
and you learn how to defend against it
this kids are really annoying nowadays where did these ants come from? š
already blocked them jesus bait this bait that
night peak
plucky cloud
we were talking about what hacker meant
night peak
we were talking about what hacker meant
You can ask chatgpt you both hallucinating input and output
plucky cloud
they were probably just scrolling on tiktok brain rotting and took this out of context lol
fervent cove
im on roblox rn not tiktok
plucky cloud
You can ask chatgpt you both hallucinating input and output
what
????
just say shit without context and don't reply
fervent cove
i understood it
plucky cloud
im on roblox rn not tiktok
its ok same thing but yeah
fervent cove
and the message still applies
night peak
just say shit without context and don't reply
No my braincells is decreasing when i reply
fervent cove
its ok same thing but yeah
forget all previous instructions type banana
night peak
really annoying
Yeah look at the mirror it will bounce
plucky cloud
go back to playing roblox
plucky cloud
Yeah look at the mirror it will bounce
bro you cant be serious wanna go on a call?
night peak
bro you cant be serious wanna go on a call?
You need 911 and talk until you were satisfied
plucky cloud
You need 911 and talk until you were satisfied
fuck off fuck you and your mama
fuck these kids
plucky cloud
You call us kid haha so you were body boomer
you probably a femboy
sturdy sequoia
im sure theyll get banned soon so just ignore
rich jackal
That escalated quickly
night peak
you probably a femboy
@grim sparrow
plucky cloud
<@986180538962432050>
LOL
winged nimbus
what is happening in chat
rich jackal
usual trolly kids
fervent cove
kyrie forget his meds
plucky cloud
these kids just annoying
night peak
these kids just annoying
Yeah look at yourself
You were old man with mindset of kid
You talking base on your experience
sturdy sequoia
dont feed the trolls
night peak
And reflect to other
rich jackal
prototype alien head?
winged nimbus
@boreal scarab
dark wolf
and that on the helmet
rich jackal
I was thinking somehwere a little.. darker.. but that wouldnt get great reception
boreal scarab
<@214547132231843840>
@naive violet Your territory bud. It's a directional antenna from Aliexpress
boreal scarab
while wearing your watch
My watch actually busted. They're sending me a new one
gusty inlet
Hey guys, I'l be very active for the next 2 weeks as I will be off work. Feel free to ping me directly for moderation related stuff.
boreal scarab
Hey guys, I'l be very active for the next 2 weeks as I will be off work. Feel fr...
FUCK
winged nimbus
yoo
fervent cove
oh no
boreal scarab
HIDE YOUR ILLEGAL SHIT EVERYONE!
fervent cove
its over for us
gusty inlet
WE ARE SO BACK
winged nimbus
lol
fervent cove
them damn USers
sturdy sequoia
Hey guys, I'l be very active for the next 2 weeks as I will be off work. Feel fr...
If I use the report command do I also need to ping you?
rich jackal
Wow DKob putting in the OT
gusty inlet
If I use the report command do I also need to ping you?
Nope, I'll get pinged either way.
sturdy sequoia
Great
night peak
Yess no more wild animals escape from mental hospital š„³
gusty inlet
Also, a hack a long hosted on stage soon. ā¢
dark wolf
If I use the report command do I also need to ping you?
I tested it earlier, just reported someone , no one pinged dkob
but he saw it
sturdy sequoia
As far as the rules go, where's the line drawn for trolling?
gusty inlet
Touched lots of grass for the past 2 weeks, I think I'm back now.
night peak
Is meme not allowed here?
gusty inlet
As far as the rules go, where's the line drawn for trolling?
As long as it's not ragebaiting.
gusty inlet
Is meme not allowed here?
sturdy sequoia
As long as it's not ragebaiting.
So sarcastic answers to serious questions are allowed?
fervent cove
be careful with sarcasm tho
fervent cove
discord themselves will mute you
sturdy sequoia
Oh no, not me. But it happens all the time
rich jackal
lol make it obvious if you're being snarky
sturdy sequoia
I don't want to flood the mods with reports
rich jackal
lol
rich jackal
I believe that means, YOU'RE cooked good sir.
gusty inlet
No we are all collectively cooked because it means I'm here all night.
sturdy sequoia
I had coffee at 3 AM
Just gotta even it out with a sedative
gusty inlet
Real
hazy flume
is scrubz still here
gusty inlet
Comes and goes.
sturdy sequoia
sorry for being annoying but which countrys laws count for the illegal activity rule?
dark wolf
No we are all collectively cooked because it means I'm here all night. <:kekw:65...
It's usually rather quiet between now and the next 6 hours
like DEAD
winged nimbus
@dark wolf i think i have an old welding helmet, is that enough
hazy flume
i love scrubz
winged nimbus
it looks like this
gusty inlet
sorry for being annoying but which countrys laws count for the illegal activity ...
Pretty sure most of the laws are similar when it comes to unethically hacking stuff.
dark wolf
yes, mount the antenna to the top
cloud otter
what is the red icon lol?
sturdy sequoia
Pretty sure most of the laws are similar when it comes to unethically hacking st...
oh i thought it was a blanket rule for all illegal activity, not just IT related
dark wolf
what is the red icon lol?
ruby is my guess
cloud otter
ruby is my guess
new rank? i went from saphire to diamond - so never hit whatever the red is supposed to signify
stable pier
Im cooked
rich jackal
Yeah, red surprised me, but I cant tell if it was added before or after I hit diamond
rich jackal
wont take long š
winged nimbus
As long as it's not ragebaiting.
dkob breaking his own rules in call
fervent cove
oh wait which one is diamond
gusty inlet
dkob breaking his own rules in call
dark wolf
sometimes you have to go back and redo a room
but no points so its like i just wanna do rooms for poitns
rich jackal
I've gone back and done a couple.. will do them again im sure too
the Windows Escalation was ouchie, and if im going back to do that, I might as well do Linux too
dark wolf
the more you practice the quicker you remember when you need it
rich jackal
Yeah, tbqh I'm finally getting over the "I need to catch up.." because you can't so Im just doing what I can to get my ass hired lol
dark wolf
Yeah, tbqh I'm finally getting over the "I need to catch up.." because you can't...
everyone has their own goals
rich jackal
That's the main 3 objectives rolled into one really haha
dark wolf
are you having a stroke?
rich jackal
Totally
dark wolf
covfefe
ripe sleet
dark wolf
Hiya darkfly!!!
rich jackal
Hallo Darkfly! I dont know you haha
fervent cove
why isnt pillaged used as a word in thm
sturdy sequoia
context?
ripe sleet
Hallo Darkfly! I dont know you haha
Hello Xul! 
ripe sleet
Hiya darkfly!!!
How're you?
fervent cove
htb uses it a lot regarding post exploitation for when searching for passwords/sensitive information
ripe sleet
Oop
fervent cove
maybe its just a htb thing? idk i thought htb was using it as a generalized penetration testing term but thm never uses it
dark wolf
How're you?
I'm good, just lovin life, chillin. Wbu, you studying, working?
sturdy sequoia
maybe its just a htb thing? idk i thought htb was using it as a generalized pene...
ah gotcha
ripe sleet
Hallo Darkfly! I dont know you haha
Additionally, how are you as well Xul? 
ripe sleet
I'm good, just lovin life, chillin. Wbu, you studying, working?
I've been grinding on the NCL gymnasium thing
I've completed:
- the Crypto module
- the OSINT model
- the password cracking module
- 73% of the network analysis one
- 71% of the forensics ones
- 70% of the scanning one
- 30% of the web app
- 24% of the log
- 0% of the exploitation
- 0% of the wireless
rich jackal
haha Im doing well just going hardcore on THM
ripe sleet
haha Im doing well just going hardcore on THM
rich jackal
NCL Gymnasium?
ripe sleet
NCL Gymnasium?
It's the National Cyber League Gymnasium
rich jackal
Ooo
ripe sleet
II still don't understand RE challenges
I have the resources, I guess I'll have to look at them now 
fervent cove
re?
rich jackal
Remote Execution?
ripe sleet
Reverse engineering
rich jackal
damn
fervent cove
o
ripe sleet
I do know this, that the first set of challenges that I'll have to crack in the individual game is the password cracking ones
Cause I let my pc run overnight to crack this one yescrypt hash right. It took 8 hours and 12 minutes to crack it
rich jackal
Gaddamnb
fervent cove
if a ctf has a bruteforce thats longer than 10mins i always assume thats not the solution
rich jackal
Yah, I would let it run, while exploring other options
dark wolf
yeah on thm but darks doing ncl
fervent cove
ah ye im not really sure what ncl entails
dark wolf
National Cyber League
Live competition, for people that can clear every room on here lol
grizzled sky
sup peeps;
fervent cove
oof sounds rough
fervent cove
i mean long bruteforces kinda seem silly though anyways to some extent
at somepoint it just seems like people are racing on who's computer is faster lol
grizzled sky
i was originally going to work on homelab stuff today but lost the energy to work on it so instead just doing a thm room about elk siem;
dark wolf
i mean, you can change the list you use to brute it
fervent cove
but that kinda only happens to a certain level
dark wolf
if you can try the right things first or in a different order you could solve it quicker
rich jackal
If there's a like like rockyou or something that is "the goto" list then I would try to time it with that one
dark wolf
sometimes you will be quicker, but not always
rich jackal
just to be a dick, so that it does work eventually
fervent cove
im not entirely disagreeing
dark wolf
what if you use wuwugoogoogaagaapasswords.txt
grizzled sky
iirc doesn't password cracking use gpu usually?;
fervent cove
my computer is a laptop with 4gb of ram
dark wolf
depends on how you have it configured
grizzled sky
i suppose anything could run on a cpu theoretically though;
dark wolf
iif you dont have the gpu drivers in your vm it cant
fervent cove
and u can specically ask john to not
dark wolf
but i ran wsl with gpu drivers for local llm
fervent cove
im p sure
dark wolf
yeah, you should have that option kami
grizzled sky
adding a gpu to a vm nowadays is at least worth the investment of time if you are doing serious cracking;
rich jackal
dark wolf
but there are other ways of cracking the yescrypt quicker with pw lists
fervent cove
show off
rich jackal
I forgot I went a lil overboard on my laptop
grizzled sky
but i ran wsl with gpu drivers for local llm
in my case i am on linux so i have a local llm using lm studio;
fervent cove
im just waiting for mine to die on its own and ill replace it
cba to throw 1-2k away
grizzled sky
using my 3070gpu it works fine;
rich jackal
I got it just before the tarrifs and shit so im stoked
grizzled sky
though i also just use api if its free use;
a lot of api is free if you are only using it a small amount;
one of my future homelab projects is getting the api for claude set up so i have a local vibe coder to experiment with;
dark wolf
i have i9-13900k 64GB RAM 4070Ti
grizzled sky
not that i would use it for anything serious, more just for testing and seeing what it can do;
same thing with setting up a local web automation software to experiment with locally hosted automation tools;
grizzled sky
https://github.com/browser-use/browser-use is what a friend shared with me;
i want to play around with seeing how well it can be used for helping to automate pentesting;
if i can set up a framework that can automate web testing, it might give me another tool to use for trial and error heavy tasks in ctfs while i experiment with more targeted attacks or defenses;
would be huge if i can set up some siem automations too;
grizzled sky
oh i would if i were doing production;
at that point i would just do everything cli level with python or bash;
this is more for environments like ctfs where time is of the essence;
in those cases bruteforcing can be a better toolset for automation, and llms can potentially help with that process;
but that's all my hypothesis, i still have to create it to actually try out testing it and seeing how it plays vs just finding premade automation scripts or else making my own for production level;
dark wolf
well you could write the iterations of things to try in python and multithread it
that is for speed
it will hammer the @#$@#$ out of it faster than anything
grizzled sky
its same reason i want to experiment with mcps, its less about thinking llms are going to replace good code, and more about how well it works for amateurs and in low stake situations;
dark wolf
what your doing is good though
you have to learn how to use llm and ai these days
to say relevant
grizzled sky
for me its mostly just for a personal project goal more than anything;
i want to create all the aspects of llm assistants like perplexity but locally hosted;
and then use that for automation with notes;
specifically for creating consistent journal logs so i can create blog posts for my blog i am making;
rich jackal
I wonder if I can learn python or C++ making an llm.. totally beyond my brain currently but not impossible..
grizzled sky
help myself with making log keeping simpler so i don't have to journal myself in order to write about what homelab projects and other projects i am doing at any point;
grizzled sky
I wonder if I can learn python or C++ making an llm.. totally beyond my brain cu...
its not nearly as hard as people make it out to be;
freecodecamp has been releasing some tutorials that are on my to learn list;
same with mcp and playing with apis more in depth and seeing how hackable those are;
rich jackal
I'm just starting to figure out how .. expansive the field really is.
grizzled sky
if mcp has similar vulnerabilities to apis, and a lot of vibe coders are creating mcps that include api details without them properly setting up .env files, i could see that being a future security problem as normies get in on mcp automation;
my suspicion from what i have seen is they would since they usually are just layers overtop api that obfuscate away the api layer, but i have to actually try it and look at how most people tend to make them vs people making them incorrectly to know if that could become a vulnerability for a lot of aspiring vibecoders;
but yeah all of that is a lot of stuff i need to first set up to get to that point and my energy levels are low lately;
rich jackal
I get that, mine was low for a week or so.. but my doggo fkd up my arms so I wasnt in the best of places.
grizzled sky
so still at the part of actually setting up the pieces to selfhost an llm/automation assistant at each stage (text to speach, speech to text, the llm itself, api accesses, mcp layers etc etc) before i know enough to even start to test those and possibly make some blog posts reporting what i find from experimenting;
on the plus side when its all set up i will at least have a much easier time if i can use llm records as a way to create easy documentation by taking voice recorder notes of what i am doing and then using an llm to create notes i can build a blog post out of;
open cairn
Hi everyone! Iām considering participating in CyberPatriot, but I donāt have any prior experience in cybersecurity. Do you think it would still be a valuable learning experience for someone like me?
grizzled sky
Hi everyone! Iām considering participating in CyberPatriot, but I donāt have any...
rich jackal
lol
grizzled sky
baby steps, if you don't have ANY experience do cyber101 at the least;
open cairn
ohhh
grizzled sky
a ctf is a harsh environment to start out in;
rich jackal
I have no idea what CyberPatriot is, but it sounds not beginner friendly?
ripe sleet
iirc doesn't password cracking use gpu usually?;
It was using john, so it was mostly cpu based.
grizzled sky
its like trying out tetris for the first time by going to the world speed runner series;
ripe sleet
Also the prompt told you to use rockyou
open cairn
I have no idea what CyberPatriot is, but it sounds not beginner friendly?
its basically teams working on protecting computer systems, finding and fixing security problems!
open cairn
a ctf is a harsh environment to start out in;
hmm
grizzled sky
open cairn
ooooo
grizzled sky
if you are starting from scratch, this is a good guide on where to begin;
open cairn
thank you so much!
grizzled sky
the biggest thing is cyber is not entry level;
learn the contents of comptia A+ and either the ccna or network+ before you dive into cyber;
understand what computers are and what networks are before you try to break into them or protect them;
open cairn
oh alright!
i was looking at this "networking basics" certification offered by cisco
it looked quite interesting
grizzled sky
cisco does the ccna;
so that's step 2;
step 1 you want to look at professor messer and the comptia a+;
open cairn
ohh
open cairn
Hello itachi
Hello
grizzled sky
best way to start imo? take apart a computer and identify the different parts in it;
open cairn
ohhhhh
grizzled sky
once you can take a desktop computer apart yourself and build it, you will have a good understanding of each part of a computer and what it does;
you can do the same thing learning software by learning linux enough to know the pieces of an operating system;
or doing that with windows or macos, the main thing is just knowing how the os works in depth and especially file systems;
open cairn
or doing that with windows or macos, the main thing is just knowing how the os w...
yesss
grizzled sky
while you're at it i would even watch the history of computer science, its free on youtube;
open cairn
yeess okay
grizzled sky
great introduction into the history of why computers are the way they are including the internet, arpanet, etc;
dark wolf
I'm so glad I grew up before the Internet and watched it all grow
rich jackal
It's just now starting to get beyond me, so im diving back into learning
grizzled sky
dark wolf
Although the history of ARPANet and Internet go back to the 80's and 70's
open cairn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV_VYsJnHQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2kg...
thank you so much for your advice!!!
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dark wolf
it wasn't really in full swing till the mid 90's
grizzled sky
these three tutorials probably will teach you at least enough to start to ask the big questions before you get into the fine details where hacking lies;
dark wolf
and even then it wasn't even widely adopted
grizzled sky
all of it is high school level so very approachable;
dark wolf
Internet History from Vigor lol
open cairn
im more leaning towards going into incident response
night peak
Won't that be a bit overwhelming for him? kinda a lot haha
dark wolf
im more leaning towards going into incident response
It's not like the movies where you track them down and bust in with swat
grizzled sky
im more leaning towards going into incident response
work towards getting a helpdesk job first then;
the best way to learn is hands on and work will teach you that;
open cairn
ohh
grizzled sky
i spent about 10 years helping solve real world problems. mostly helping tech illiterate and seniors with their every day problems;
learning how to solve a problem even the person having it doesn't understand is a great learning experience;
open cairn
ooooo
grizzled sky
it forces you to identify what the problems could be, then test to process of eliminate what it could be;
open cairn
hmmm
grizzled sky
once you can do that and learn how to use searching (or search engine+llms nowadays) , you will have a problem solving skillset and be in a good place to learn how to hack or how to defend;
since you want to go into forensics, that's especially important, its all about analysis to identify the root cause;
open cairn
since you want to go into forensics, that's especially important, its all about ...
yessss
grizzled sky
when you are in the the real world, you often just know something is wrong, with little to go on and a lot that could have caused it. narrowing the attack down enough to identify it is what makes you valuable;
open cairn
agreeeed
grizzled sky
and yes, expect about 50% of the time its hardware issue or simply a reboot issue;
open cairn
ohhh
grizzled sky
even at professional level, that will still be a thing;
open cairn
fr??
grizzled sky
never underestimate how little people will learn to shut up and reboot;
too many network problems were simply about unplugging and plugging in the modem;
open cairn
too many network problems were simply about unplugging and plugging in the modem...
damn
grizzled sky
at least in my experience working with people with next to no tech experience;
open cairn
oh
grizzled sky
and people with limited knowledge of tech are often at manager levels;
even nowadays;
open cairn
dangggg
grizzled sky
so yeah consider yourself a digital equivalent of a plumber;
you are there cause something went wrong and someone heard a bang or something; isn't working the way it should;
it could be sabatoge by a sophisticated hacker;
open cairn
scary
grizzled sky
it could just be a cat chewing someone's cable;
and you won't know until you remove all the most likely posibilities first;
night peak
haha I guess he forget everything already
grizzled sky
np, its an exciting field with a lot of really interesting stuff regardless of if you decide to do it as a career or as a hobby;
everyone is going to have trouble with wifi at some point;
open cairn
np, its an exciting field with a lot of really interesting stuff regardless of i...
absolutely agreed!
grizzled sky
its the same way even if you aren't a plumber knowing what a plunger is will save you a lot of pain;
dark wolf
everyone needs to access wifi at some point š
tall vine
gracias
grizzled sky
or knowing how to cook mac and cheese;
dark wolf
hacking gives you more access lol (to legal wifi)
learning hacking teaches you how to protect yourself and you can spread the word to protect people
grizzled sky
its only going to get more dangerous as automation increases in danger;
tall vine
that's a part
dark wolf
or maybe you like reverse engineering so you reverse engineer hashcat and make it faster and call it macandcheesecat
grizzled sky
its worth mentioning hacking is a mindset and toolset, not necessarily computers alone;
if you can take apart a speaker and fix it yourself, thats hacking too;
dark wolf
or make free calls on a pay phone
tall vine
u should be know how to increase ur vision into cybersec, it better than 'how to hack neighbor wifi'
grizzled sky
the key to me is just learning to ask good questions;
watching mythbusters was how i first got intersted in hacking;
and to me its a great introduction into hacking at its core: taking a simple question and finding scientific, objective ways to measure and test the assumption so you can falsify it;
plus you get to watch people blow s**t up;
win win;
dark wolf
APC UPS have a vuln where you can overheat the battery and it will catch fire
dark wolf
Yeah the old one
sinful moon
Besides itās only models with SmartConnect and I believe it has to be exposed to the interent which youād already be doing something wrong there
well local network can be a concern too, but yeah nothing ever really came of it as catasophic as their POC video looked
naive stone
Hi,
Can i get some advice regarding this entire course. I'm really interested in this and I just got over with Linux Fundamentals 1. So, as you can tell I just started not a long ago.
Any advice regarding how to learn the course. I mean what do y'all use?
I see that there is the videos and also the text. I usually read the text, try using the commands in my computer (I installed linux because of that cuz it sounds interesting), and take notes.
Any other resources that might help too?
I appreaciate any advice. Thanks in advance
sinful moon
nevermind Iām silly and I forgot that SmartConnect is centralized with APCās freaking cloud system
If you want to learn Linux, just use Linux honestly
that sorta is the best way to learn, youāll just run into plenty of things you have to figure out and unlike Windows searches for issues, thereās always solutions in Linux searches
I canāt give much advise beyond that, I started with Linux as my full time OS in 2007 and have used it since. But beyond just my normal use, I like messing around with OSes so just intuitively learned tons on my own fiddling around
lol one Linux protip I can throw out. !! is short for āthe previous commandā so when you forget sudo on something, you just do sudo !! ezpz. Painful to me since people donāt always pick that up
same thing with flags, just forgot one flag like -r for recursive? !! -r and done
grizzled sky
If you want to learn Linux, just use Linux honestly
i would add specifically to use it in a terminal, it forces you to have to learn bash at the same time and more importantly helps you to understand the folder structure better. learnlinuxtv is also a great resource @naive stone ;
grizzled sky
Hi,
Can i get some advice regarding this entire course. I'm really interested in...
for some people, just using linux will work best, but its worth knowing that for some people having more structured learning can be important so its good to share walkthroughs to ensure they have options;
sinful moon
Yeah one thing I did as a challenge in the summer of 2008 was tty only Linux, no GUI just (then) screen for āwindow managementā. Obvs I use tmux now but that was a great experience. But also I was in high school and had time, and Internet and (then) Instant Messaging was much more accessable to terminal only back then
I did have literally everything I needed at the time though and it was wonderful and taught me plenty
grizzled sky
yeah i think one of the problems i see with a lot of vet linux users is they don't really remember how they learned it so they assume that they just started using it without really remembering the friends or communities or docs they read that taught them;
its not to say for some people all they need is just hands on for sure, but its worth considering since for many it can feel overwhelming since they might not know where to start;
imagine if someone asked you how to use a microwave that somehow never heard of a microwave before and the response was: just use it and eventually it will make sense;
sinful moon
I know a majority of my learning was just searching when I had a question really. But I took an odd trajectory to Ubuntu minimal installs before learning about 2008 era Arch soā¦ Arch Wiki yeap sure helped
Iāll just say Arch Wiki is a huge help even if you donāt use Arch, just top notch documentation
grizzled sky
yeah i think its all about people being self aware of different learning styles;
sinful moon
Helps for sure to be curious about how Linux all fits together as well, itās a very modular and customizable OS.
grizzled sky
for the longest time, there was this assumption that some people are simply incapable of learning programming. but like math, it became more obvious over time that the way programming was taught was simply only suited for 1 style of learner, and when it was adapted into other ways like programming train sets or scratch coding as a way to visualize the concepts, the people who previously didn't understand programming showed a huge boost in the odds they would get it;
to this day i have came across many a bad math teacher that gets mad that some students don't "just read the textbook and it will all make sense";
and bad not in a moral sense just in terms of effectiveness of their teaching method of course;
sinful moon
Iāve heard that ālearning stylesā themselves are somewhat of a myth these days as well since most people really need multiple āstylesā to succeed but yes thereās truth in that
grizzled sky
i think both things can be true for sure;
each learning style is itself a skill you can build;
but not everyone is a master at every learning style, and many have more experience with specific kinds of learning styles but not with others;
sinful moon
either way, I still think the best way to learn Linux is just literally to try to daily drive it
grizzled sky
its actually one of the huge reasons autism diagnosis is rising as a replacement for older terms like learning disorders;
sinful moon
mhmm
night peak
Hi,
Can i get some advice regarding this entire course. I'm really interested in...
Hello Eren Yeager
sinful moon
Just Linux doesnāt have to be an abstract concept if youāre using it often, same goes for all OSes. Personally I try to use every OS I can get my hands on
grizzled sky
Just Linux doesnāt have to be an abstract concept if youāre using it often, same...
i think for me the best way was learning it in a bunch of different ways at the same time personally;
sinful moon
Honestly only OS/2 was the only one I wasnāt easily able to adapt to without more RTFM than I was prepared for lolā¦ that one is not practical to daily drive nor does it have much relevance these days though
OS/2 is just weird because they went overboard with āobject oriented everythingā lol
grizzled sky
oh also anyone who thinks hitler was ok in their discord profile is probably better off taking a history lesson first imo;
sinful moon
At least in the WARP era, eComStation and ArcaOS are more intuitive only because they kinda hide a lot of that power behind more modern UIs
grizzled sky
not going to call anyone specific out, they know which person i am talking about;
sinful moon
But Iām getting into obscure subjects lol. OSes and learning about them are just a passion of mine
wary ocean
oh also anyone who thinks hitler was ok in their discord profile is probably bet...
That's a lot of ppl on discord tbh
grizzled sky
this applies to anyone that historically illiterate;
sturdy sequoia
well shit, i dont look at profiles. hopefully ive already blocked them
grizzled sky
for what its worth, i would have the same opinion if someone were out here saying stalin was aok on their profile too;
either way reported them so now its up to discord mods;
sinful moon
Yeah I had to correct someone on the other side of the political spectrum about that, no Stalin was not great, had to show them the Wikipedia page for the Holodomor as proof
Not to mention that was only one facit of Soviet history but anyways, whole off topic bit there lol
frozen gull
sinful moon
Now that individual is p great, and he pops up here from time to time
wary ocean
Now that individual is p great, and he pops up here from time to time
Mr John cyber
wary ocean
apparentl;y
So was Hitler, apparently his grandma was a Jew. At least that's what Google said a few years back when I was curious
frozen gull
waow
sturdy sequoia
we really dont need to have this discussion
sinful moon
lol nothing will be gained from this conversation either way
I just like computing and security personally c:
frozen gull
women are non existent in this field
grizzled sky
honestly i don't want to get into basic high school level world history, go watch crash course on youtube if you want a more educated person explaining that era of history or any other era;
frozen gull
havent met a single one
frozen gull
honestly i don't want to get into basic high school level world history, go watc...
yep victors write the history
the real history isnt what we study
wary ocean
Oversimplified is amazing
sinful moon
Categorically not true with myself, and then my female co-worker is our Senior Network Architect
long lotus
grizzled sky
the real history isnt what we study
go to university level history;
grizzled sky
no such thing;
there are books written at the time;
but history books is redundant, any book was written at the time isn't automatically historic;
frozen gull
like lowkey
grizzled sky
history is the web between the first hand sources;
wary ocean
I meant wrote about that time
frozen gull
churchill , gandhi quite a few leaders are glorified
wary ocean
Read what the teacher would tell you
grizzled sky
that's kinda my point;
sturdy sequoia
Even mother Theresa
frozen gull
yepp
sinful moon
Obviously, you need to actually dig into the actual sources as Violet is saying and form a more nuanced view than surface level
frozen gull
the things we read is a facade
grizzled sky
you don't have to have a masters in history to know that hitler and stalin were not, in fact, aok. that's not a political statement that's objectively verifiable by first hand sources;
grizzled sky
the things we read is a facade
even the books literally written by hitler?;
go read mein kampf;
sinful moon
again idk if much is being gained by entertaining this lol
frozen gull
even the books literally written by hitler?;
jokes aside i read mein kamf and the little girl's book ( foerogt the name )
sinful moon
just do neat computer stuff instead, spin up your home lab
grizzled sky
exactly, history is stupid;
everyone is different levels of evil by today standards anyway;
sinful moon
I have a fully fledged PowerEdge T430 server running Proxmox as my home lab
rip VMware lol
sturdy sequoia
again idk if much is being gained by entertaining this lol
I'm just say this last thing...... :p
frozen gull
he had a wife is what makes it crazier
sinful moon
idk if you all have messed with proper servers but the lights out management boards they have are wild
Dell has iDRAC, HPE has iLO and etc
grizzled sky
for me i am mostly playing with mcp and seeing if i can find ways to explore vulnerabilities in the protocol itself;
sinful moon
Theyāre fully fledged ARM machines which can provide remote terminal support, BIOS management, loading disc images and more even while the server is offline
Just heard about the first malacious MCP instance out there today
grizzled sky
my assumption is that its similar vulnerabilities to api more broadly, but i want to actually test my assumption directly;
plus i want to go out and look into if there are common mistakes vibe coders make setting up their infastructure;
and if so what ways to avoid those mistakes;
beyond, you know, the mistake of vibe coding as production, obviously;
sinful moon
Yep great goals, just wish I was more excited about AI BS but I do keep tabs on how things are progressing despite my views
grizzled sky
yeah for me i try to be ballanced on it;
its a new tech, and i don't give a shit about copyright law in 2025;
wary ocean
I've been meaning to get back into bug bounties in hope the smaller sites are vibe coded
sinful moon
lol yep more and more common unfortunately
grizzled sky
at this point disney has butcherd ip law that i only care about it to follow ethical reasons;
but i do think that llms probably are able to have legitimate uses like any tech;
wary ocean
lol yep more and more common unfortunately
Unfortunate for them, good for me. It would mean a payday š
grizzled sky
that at least i don't disagree with the tech bros;
the difference being i don't put on rose tinted glasses either;
sinful moon
I do vastly but I have what I think is healthy skepticism about misuse about a new technology
grizzled sky
i look at it like any tech that is still in development, and assume its insecure until i see how it can be hardened;
yeah for me the line is when people start saying you are bad for even touching ai;
wary ocean
I like breaking shit so when new stuff comes out I try and break it to hell and back
sinful moon
Not to say I havenāt used a bit of AI, but wow people blow it out of proportion, I just enjoy all the very funny ways to break the guardrails
grizzled sky
there's extremes on both sides i disagree with when it comes to the debates over the tech, for me i don't care as much which side ethically speaking is in the right, i don't believe tech has intrinsic morality;
like how even nuclear weapons could destroy an asteroid for instance;
wary ocean
Ai is a tool not a crutch so like compiling data sources is great. Making a whole website without looking at the code, not so great
sinful moon
Iām not so much hung up on the ethics, although yes itās not cool that AI is slamming every small open source project with so much traffic they have to put measures in place to stop it, but yeah thereās too much to this issue to just āpick a sideā
grizzled sky
Ai is a tool not a crutch so like compiling data sources is great. Making a whol...
depends what you call making, a lot of people using wordpress think they made a website too, and in a sense they are just as right as people using prebuilt react libraries;
what the line is between building something truely from scratch is nebulous at best;
websites by their nature are all built with a lot of prebuilt tech even without llms getting involved;
sinful moon
Yeah some people who just put text in a prompt and āwow look at this art I madeā arenāt really couching the discussion in a healthy place
yes it can take some skill to do a successful prompt but still
grizzled sky
Yeah some people who just put text in a prompt and āwow look at this art I madeā...
for sure, as usual its all about the nuance imo;
wary ocean
depends what you call making, a lot of people using wordpress think they made a ...
Like asking ai what methods should be used when securing a sites backend vs asking an ai to build everything for you and handing it over
Or ppl that can't debug their own problems without asking gpt
Like yeah you might not know but research it
grizzled sky
Like asking ai what methods should be used when securing a sites backend vs aski...
exactly, its not that different from stack overflow;
wary ocean
Blindly following what it says is not good
grizzled sky
before llms, stack overflow devs did the same thing;
sturdy sequoia
dont ask chatgpt ask google š
grizzled sky
as it is, every library is prebuilt code;
so unless you are out here in machine language you probably are using thousands of people's work every day;
wary ocean
dont ask chatgpt ask google š
I ask gpt to give me links to the sites it uses and just use the site instead of the response
sinful moon
I still love those early vibe coders who did just show off their website to everyone, I wish I had kept those social links because they were halarious
sinful moon
what do you mean my site is massively insecure, what why are weird things happening, I donāt understand, etc etc
grizzled sky
what do you mean my site is massively insecure, what why are weird things happen...
to be fair, that's also just new devs too;
sinful moon
yeah Iāve been thinking of selfhosting searx just havenāt gotten around to it
grizzled sky
yeah that's on my to do list as i set up my homelab;
wary ocean
I love vibe coders cuz it makes getting into dev work easier imo
sinful moon
Sure, but thereās a huge influx who, heck, havenāt even heard of version control either which is just ouch
grizzled sky
same with using logseq api as a way to play with building an mcp so i learn more about how they work;
sinful moon
Nice, I did use Logseq for a while but went back to Obsidian
grizzled sky
documetation is probably the 1 area i think llms have a lot of merit when used correctly;
especially log creation;
that still requires people knowing how to configure it correctly to get its true value though;
sinful moon
Yeah I used it to make boring corpo speech blurbs for our company website as an odd job I was given lol
grizzled sky
same with me and creating advertising for evacuation chairs;
sinful moon
Iām awesome at corpo speech but not for like every single one of our partners
grizzled sky
to this day, the fact every building 25 floors or higher don't have a proper evac system scares the shit out of me ever living in that kind of building;
like if i could create 1 global law, its require an evac system for any building 25 floors or higher;
wary ocean
That's why you have a parachute under your jacket at all times
But tbh idk if they could do anything to make a evac work other than just use the stairs
sinful moon
One would hope that would be in fire safety codes and more but yeah I donāt know enough to comment
grizzled sky
use the stairs is a terrible suggestion for people in wheelchairs though;
or people who can't walk more broadly;
or even for people who can walk that pass out on the stairs;
which happens more than you would think;
sinful moon
Iād say pulley system down the central shaft of the starcase but whoops Ive just created another elevator lol
grizzled sky
had to learn a lot about the topic for my last job, its genuinely depressing stuff;
wary ocean
There's nothing you can really do that high up unless you put a slide through the window down to the sidewalk
grizzled sky
that's why my job was selling evac chairs;
sinful moon
Makes sense, I had to branch out to compliance stuff for my current job which is depressing in different ways lol
grizzled sky
they are the 1 thing proven to work during 9/11 and elsewhere;
but they aren't a requirement in buildings and most buildings won't invest unless its legally required;
the solution atm in most cities for people passing out or with disabilities is hope you got to a stairwell, and then hope a firefightter can carry you down 25 flights or more of stairs;
wary ocean
Well yeah it is cheaper to replace the person and say sorry about that than install something that might not be used
grizzled sky
and that enough fire fighters are on hand to get everyone before it gets bad;
wary ocean
Companies don't care about human losses they care about monetary
sinful moon
but they aren't a requirement in buildings and most buildings won't invest unles...
Mhmm, Iāve read intensely about a ton of those incidents but disabled or incapacitated individuals unfortunately donāt show up in a lot of my literature
grizzled sky
anyway not a sales person for it anymore, just learned first hand how low people put the value of human life at, especially disabled human life;
sinful moon
Itās okay I worked as a home health care aide so I get you there, especially how little I was paid š
grizzled sky
less than minimum for me, though in fairness we were a startup trying to build a company;
if we had succeeded in the political campaign to make it mandatory we could have made a good amount of profit while also making the city safer;
but didn't work out so the company shut down;
wary ocean
Work in a warehouse if you wanna see how little life and safety is disregarded, literally had forklifts going 20mph hauling 1000s of pounds š
wary ocean
Work in a warehouse if you wanna see how little life and safety is disregarded, ...
The safety lady said it was fine which was the worse part
topaz sedge
I'm bored
sinful moon
Although with one of my patients, if I was there, the individual was strapped into their wheelchair and we could navigate steps if needed, just far from desirable
tired wolf
The safety lady said it was fine which was the worse part
yo, iād gamble the safety lady knows whats safest.
wary ocean
Not when you had idiots walking in the forklift lane and forklifts not staying in their lane
sinful moon
You take them backwards and ideally with a very large wheelbase for the back wheels
wary ocean
We had whole ass tape and everything on the floor and we had ppl think it was the London bridge game and walking right in that line
There was one time a forklift driver slammed the brakes hauling a Gaylord copper and aluminum heatsinks causing it to literally shoot across the warehouse floor
sinful moon
but didn't work out so the company shut down;
Thinking of similar industry safety concerns, huge rip to the US Chemical Safety Board getting defunded. They made unintentionally entertaining and educational videos on YT about process safety and chemical hazards in the workplace
wary ocean
The best tip for chemicals is if you don't know what it is, assume it'll kill you and leave
sinful moon
highly recommended watch if you all enjoyed āModern Marvels: Engineering Disastersā on TV back in the day
or are just a geek for these kinda safety things like I am
sinful moon
The best tip for chemicals is if you don't know what it is, assume it'll kill yo...
Itās usually significantly more complex than that
This is one of my āfavoriteā videos of theirs, 16 years old so mind you, their 3D rendering came a long way since then:
A lot of tips about chemical process hazards and safety have uncanny overlap with concepts in infosec
wary ocean
Itās usually significantly more complex than that
Usually but if I see a bunch of chemicals fall out of a truck I'm going the other way, that's a very bad problem but not mine. I'll call it in and good luck