general

[wind lake]

i literally dont know what you want. go to #site-support because it sounds like you need help with the event. or #1410191476201095178

[knotty valve]

Try again in a decade

[elder crown]

that was my next goal after compta A

[lavish vessel]

why would it work independently of a system admin or security?

[polar spoke]

“Doesn’t have the capacity to understand” simple as that imo

[lavish vessel]

and not alongside

[half onyx]

Exactly. You proved my point. Security is in demand because of that.

[loud orbit]

😂😂😂bruh I don’t even know python

[knotty valve]

Yeah

My current research is actually in developing the understanding of emotional behaviours with machine learning

not easy

[loud orbit]

Facts it will always have errors to rely on fully with trust

[lavish vessel]

why would it be an autonomous system?

[polar spoke]

Though the baked in assumption there is that sysadmins might

[elder crown]

Yeah but its not important depending what u wanna do in tech. i do wanna learn programming so i can go into game development

[proper minnow]

Async BOF still in fashion ?

[loud orbit]

Defo for sure

[knotty valve]

I mean if I'm paying a sysadmin to maintain my system I'd hope they can actually do it

[half onyx]

And the nature of it “not being easy” is more of the reason for why human error will exist in the code frame and functionality hence needing security

[polar spoke]

Yeah

[knotty valve]

Actually the nature of it not being easy is the fact this is one of the most under-researched topics and it's heavily overlapping with psychology

A field that's got not enough research

[half onyx]

Which has gaps

[knotty valve]

And very hard to prove

[loud orbit]

Fair fair I prob wanna learn c /c++ for deep hacking and dev yk exploits etc depending how hard the learning curve is lol …if not then at least scripts etc depends if I fall in love with coding …I’m worried it’ll be to hard for me

[half onyx]

My point is it definitely can cross over with cyber

[knotty valve]

Human Error isn't exactly the issue, nor is cyber

[half onyx]

And why AI security engineers is in high demand

[proper minnow]

C not gonna take long to learn

[knotty valve]

Because it's a behavioural analysis system

[half onyx]

Explain

[proper minnow]

Cpp maybe lomger

[elder crown]

one of my cybersecurity club officers said i should go into machine learning. like another said it sounds hard. doesnt it require math? or am i tripping

[loud orbit]

Isn’t it one of the hardest to learn ?

[proper minnow]

Lol no

[loud orbit]

I don’t even know python lol 😢😢😢

[proper minnow]

Im serious. I was trolling a bit in my earlier post, but it’s actually easy

[lavish vessel]

not to mention the research they have is subpar

[loud orbit]

C ?

[half onyx]

AI isn’t just “algorithms in a vacuum.” It runs on servers, APIs, datasets, and models all of which can be attacked like any other software system.

[proper minnow]

Yes c is very straightforward

[lavish vessel]

whats your base?

[elder crown]

i tried C++ it was kinda hard for me just starting off. so i switched to python. i needa learn C# and C++ if i wanna use Unreal or unity

[half onyx]

It is pretty subpar

[proper minnow]

The complier doesn’t harass you like rust

[loud orbit]

What u mean ?

[lavish vessel]

I was being polite, its a social science at best and the research doesn't matter lol

[loud orbit]

Right right

[lavish vessel]

what do you already know?

[loud orbit]

Am I dumb to struggle with python ?

[mortal ether]

This would be a pretty decent example of that:

[proper minnow]

Kinda

[loud orbit]

Programming wise struggling with python lol

[proper minnow]

Jk

[half onyx]

It’s a “new” concept to most people. People blow it out of proportion all the time.

[lavish vessel]

if you can read english you can learn python

[loud orbit]

Damn

[lavish vessel]

can learn, doesn't mean will learn effortlessly

[half onyx]

“Oh no I’m gonna lose my job to AI”

No you just suck at your job lol

[lavish vessel]

boooooooo

[half onyx]

It’s an excuse to lay off people that underperform

Hence Microsoft

[elder crown]

if the answer is yes then im cooked too😭

[loud orbit]

Oh 😭😭

[loud orbit]

😭😭😭

[half onyx]

My fingers are cramping from typing this on my phone 🤣

[knotty valve]

It's a Human Behavioural Analysis, Prediction, and Triaging system essentially
It's only requirement is a camera and microphone to read analog data, that data is then processed into various sub systems for whichever the input is runs through an unsupervised learning and reinforcement learning algorithm, to take those behaviours and formulate a triaging plan as well as denoting subdominant behavioural patterns that are generally overlooked as well as dominant behaviour patterns that are easily noticeable

Data is all handled locally without networking, and so far i can run most of it on a potato

[loud orbit]

😭😭😭bro carnt believe u a cloud engineer

Lucky ass

[knotty valve]

I'd give a proper abstract but I've only been awake for two hours

[elder crown]

Its not hard to understand imo, just hard to build with for me

[half onyx]

Dude you just gotta network with people.

[proper minnow]

Do you know about package management in python?

[lavish vessel]

I mean considering every important figure in the early ages of psychology was a wack job the base is a steaming dumpster fire built on best guesses and speculation

[elder crown]

like i seen mfs make a whole flappy game with it. how u remember all the codes

ChatGP helps but i dont wanna rely on AI

[knotty valve]

The actual issue here for this entire research: is the fact I'm having to basically research two fields simultaneously

[loud orbit]

Yhhh fr

[half onyx]

Running AI locally doesn’t eliminate security risks. Someone could still tamper with the input, steal the device, or exploit flaws in the model itself. AI systems need security not just for networking threats, but for adversarial attacks, data leakage, and privacy protection. Without that, even a local ‘potato AI’ can be compromised.

[loud orbit]

No sadly

[proper minnow]

Learn it. NOW

[knotty valve]

Security isn't the issue because that's not the focus of it, the data security is relying on the system to be secure

[loud orbit]

Threats my biggest thing with learning aswell like I’d love a mentor but don’t wanna rely on AI

[knotty valve]

It's out of my scope to fix your broken system

[lavish vessel]

just put in the work bro lol

[loud orbit]

Errr ok

[half onyx]

You can still do injection attacks that directly affect the data

[knotty valve]

Inject what

Lmao

[proper minnow]

AI bubble will pop. Don’t worry we’ll get oir jobs back. Probably not entry level people

[half onyx]

Prompt injections

Data poisoning

[knotty valve]

With what prompt

It's not an LLM

[half onyx]

Model evasion

Even back doors still

[proper minnow]

Gimme data?

[knotty valve]

Data poisoning is maybe the only thing
But how are you going to poison data from a camera and microphone

[lavish vessel]

couldn't you tamper with training data?

[knotty valve]

Without MiTMing the hardware

[wind lake]

with my ugly mug

[knotty valve]

It trains on the fly

[lavish vessel]

then wouldn't that be an attack vector?

[knotty valve]

Intentionally meant to be untrained so it's specialised to every individual patient

[leaden marsh]

Please I have question

[proper minnow]

Supply chain dawg

[proper minnow]

?

[loud orbit]

Can I add u

[lavish vessel]

i mean you can but i am of no help and just some dummy on the internet

[proper minnow]

Well

Nothing

Nvm

[half onyx]

Even with only a camera and microphone, an unsupervised or reinforcement learning system is susceptible to sensor level adversarial injection. By introducing carefully crafted adversarial perturbations such as imperceptible noise in the audio domain or visually encoded patterns in the physical scene, an attacker can manipulate the feature extraction pipeline and gradually shift the learned decision boundary. Over time this creates a form of model drift poisoning where the system internalizes biased behavioral baselines. Even without external networking, the attack surface still exists at the input signal layer which makes AI security mandatory.

[knotty valve]

Not really no, because it knows what data it's gonna get, and how to structure it
I have error correction and reinforcement to deal with inconsistent data
The only way you could poison it would be a MiTM on the hardware or not having an AV and thread hijacking from the system

[wind lake]

did you chatgpt that

[knotty valve]

They've been typing for a bit iirc

[half onyx]

She’s a machine learning researcher

[lavish vessel]

I understand that the best I can

[wind lake]

okay LOL

[proper minnow]

This

Was gonna get grok to sum that up

[lavish vessel]

also see how that would work

[half onyx]

I did ChatGPT it but made it sound scientific for her. Used my own words

But adversarial injection is a problem still

[lavish vessel]

I just refuse to believe something can't be exploited lol

[proper minnow]

Can you ask it to explain in brain rot terms

[half onyx]

You can still fake that shit

[half onyx]

I’ll just type it out for you

[lavish vessel]

I firmly believe everything is broken but seems like its functional we just haven't found every hole yet

[loud orbit]

Guys can u answer a question without judging me

Can try hack me be used for grey hacking

[proper minnow]

Yeah

[loud orbit]

Educational purposes

[half onyx]

Not really

[whole yew]

What would grey hacking be?

[gusty inlet]

@cold raft Do not promote in here.

[knotty valve]

Noise in the audio domain is something I normalise and control anyway, I actually ignore things that are not with certain ranges already, since I'm relying on detection of human-capable sounds, though I'll keep it in mind

Visually encoded attacks won't actually hijack the model and at this point: just grab the laptop dude

[proper minnow]

Yeah

[whole yew]

If you can define what it is, then the question can be answered intelligently.

[knotty valve]

If you have access to the physical space

[proper minnow]

Mods run

[knotty valve]

Just grab the fucking laptop

[lavish vessel]

using thm for anything than doing rooms is against TOS I believe

[knotty valve]

You're already there 🤣

It's game over

[half onyx]

So it’s fool proof then?

[proper minnow]

Who’s gonna find out tho

[loud orbit]

Really ?

[lavish vessel]

nothing is fool proof

[knotty valve]

Won't be fool proof since it's still under development and research, but a lot of the issues you're presenting isn't within the domain of the research

I'm not responsible for your device security or physical security

[loud orbit]

How not

[lavish vessel]

they log everything for the AI

[knotty valve]

Like legitimately

[proper minnow]

Would i lie to u bub?

[lavish vessel]

If you do something sketchy they'll know

[proper minnow]

Delete it

[loud orbit]

No black hat that’s for sure

[knotty valve]

If you're in a space where you can access the camera and microphone

[lavish vessel]

try closing port 80 on the attack box and see what happens

[half onyx]

I believe THM only promotes white hat

[knotty valve]

You either have adversarial control of the device or you're physically in the room with it

[proper minnow]

Port 80?

[compact fossil]

is your research in behaviourism and analysing people’s movements etc

[loud orbit]

TOS

[knotty valve]

Both of which isn't my problem

[lavish vessel]

yeah try it

[knotty valve]

Yeah

[loud orbit]

Idk

[wind lake]

define greyhat

[lavish vessel]

you'll instantly disconnect

[proper minnow]

Will do. Thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @lavish vessel (current: #1070 - 5)

[compact fossil]

but behaviourism is outdated?

[loud orbit]

That may be the case but the skills you learn ? Even with or what about hack the box ?

[wind lake]

this is a hallmark question in your journey you must be asked by juun

[whole yew]

In other words, you are going to dodge the question and not answer. Sketch level of the question incremented.

[knotty valve]

What

[half onyx]

Are you wanting to use THM VMs to do some sus things?

[knotty valve]

Psych is never outdated lmao

[wind lake]

do you remember asking me to define greyhat

[loud orbit]

Like being able to hack stuff ,that’s not so legal BUT for the right reasons

[half onyx]

They probably won’t like that

[loud orbit]

So black hat but not malicious

Good things

[half onyx]

Oh so like an activist thing

[wind lake]

what are the right reasons?

[loud orbit]

I seen sim mad room on hack the box

[proper minnow]

[loud orbit]

Stopping bad people

[wind lake]

who are the bad people?

[loud orbit]

Like I saw android and Wi-Fi hacking on hack the box

[whole yew]

It's on my list of buzzwords, whenever I see a question that I see my marketing/sales people asking more than twice a year, I need clarification from the asker

[loud orbit]

Does it acc teach that

[half onyx]

It’s still against the computer fraud act

[loud orbit]

Pedos etc

I could go on

[lavish vessel]

psych research is diputed all the time

[loud orbit]

And on

[half onyx]

So no it’s not legal

[loud orbit]

We’re I love

Live

[proper minnow]

😲

[loud orbit]

Ik

But hey

[whole yew]

Hacking "bad people" is still a crime, and it's not a grey area. that's still black hat activity.

[digital estuary]

ethically? questionable, illegal? yeah

[half onyx]

If you caught pedos and stuff they can still legally get you back for hacking them

[sand trench]

meep meep moop moop it is time for sleep sloop to beep boop

[loud orbit]

Sadly

[loud orbit]

What if I don’t get caught …:

[half onyx]

Just let the FBI handle it

[lavish vessel]

you could actually be helping them evade persecution

[digital estuary]

it falls under vigilantism

[whole yew]

lets say you did hack a bad person, and turned the evidence over to law enforcement. Do you what "fruit of the poison tree" means?

[half onyx]

That’s what they all say

[compact fossil]

like behaviourism as a model in psychology is wildly outdated. Idk what model you are following and what movements u would wanna track and anticipate but if u actually can build a system that can accurately real time with no prior data predict people’s behaviour, i salute

[digital estuary]

and in cybersec you have to be unbiased

[loud orbit]

Which they don’t

[grave gulch]

Is using hydra illegal...

[loud orbit]

Police are trash

[loud orbit]

Elaborate

[half onyx]

I did see a guy single handily take out North Korea in cyber space

[knotty valve]

No strict model here, I'm doing my own research into behavioral sciences :D

[proper minnow]

Ayo who’s enjoying cs4.11?

[half onyx]

But it was a YouTube video

[loud orbit]

Does try hack me and hack the box or ethier one teach reall hacking

Bc hack the box looks like it teaches actual stuff

Over try hack me

[proper minnow]

That’s a good question

[half onyx]

It’s real hacking

[proper minnow]

Does it

[loud orbit]

Hmmm

[loud orbit]

[proper minnow]

WinPeas advanced prv esc?

[digital estuary]

you can't really violate policies or laws just because someone is bad (they did X and Y) or is a close relative/friend (give em access to something they shouldnt)

[half onyx]

You just gotta get to the more “difficult” boxes. Most of the stuff THM teaches are old vulnerabilities

[knotty valve]

I find HTB to be great at testing skills

[half onyx]

Like if your mom was still using AOL that’d be an attack vector to use

[proper minnow]

Ngl. Unless they have an edr on it. I don’t think it’s difficult

[half onyx]

Because it’s old exploits and vulnerabilities

[lavish vessel]

there's some research that says everything you do is already predetermined so technically it'd be possible but the amount of data needed to make that work would be bonkers

[half onyx]

Stuff that’s been patched years ago

[loud orbit]

Can u elaborate? So it’s not actual teaching me to hack in this day and age basically only old vulnerabilities…

[proper minnow]

Cs and MDE are crazy

[compact fossil]

show me the research bc there is no such thing

[loud orbit]

So it actual teaches you stuff ?

[wind lake]

dmsa bad successor is a privesc on win server 2025. thats pretty current

[loud orbit]

Or is it better for me to set up a vm

Etc and attack machine

[knotty valve]

They have HTB Academy and HTB Labs

[lavish vessel]

its all real hacking the principles are the same

[compact fossil]

okay very interesting fr wish u the best

[proper minnow]

It teaches pen testing, back in flat networks

[half onyx]

Like you gotta know your basics still of hacking. That’s what THM teaches. But for the dark web hacking stuff you gotta learn more than just cyber. Like computer science, ai machine learning, networking, etc…

[loud orbit]

So old ?

[proper minnow]

Idk im talking sht

[half onyx]

But I don’t condone

[loud orbit]

Ahh okok

I wanna learn networking

[lavish vessel]

you're thinking about it in a really basic way. its all just concepts and problem solving. You're not going to be discovering 0 days any time soon

[loud orbit]

Ahh okok

[half onyx]

Cyber is just the icing on the cake honestly

[loud orbit]

All paid though right

[half onyx]

Learn binary

[loud orbit]

Most of it

[stable pier]

The hack monster

[half onyx]

Learn hardware

[lavish vessel]

for 12 bucks a month its the best value in the industry

[loud orbit]

Yhhh what about infrastructure hacking etc network or Wi-Fi ? Phone hacking etc

[proper minnow]

Does thm teach c2s or netcat?

[half onyx]

Maybe idk

[loud orbit]

On thm ?

[lavish vessel]

why would you be worried about all that if you can figure out how to look up a CVE and use metasploit?

[proper minnow]

Imagine doing grey hat hacking with netcat. APT29 right there

[half onyx]

But yeah if you want to be one of those “big time” hackers you gotta learn stuff outside the scope of “hacking”. All the boring stuff

[wind lake]

yeah pretty sure

[lavish vessel]

you gotta crawl before you can walk

[wind lake]

pretty sure theres nc rooms idk about c2

[half onyx]

Absolutely

[proper minnow]

Bruh

[loud orbit]

What does that fall under or what falls under big time hacker should I say

[loud orbit]

What do u mean ?

[wind lake]

idk i dont really use the platform anymore, dont know what it has on it right now

[digital estuary]

some rooms that require shells has a quick explanation about netcat

it was i one of the rooms that explains reverse and bind shells

[half onyx]

Just knowing the ins and outs of hardware, networking, OPERATING SYSTEMS, and software. The core layers of computers.

[loud orbit]

But that that go for hacking most things …and ik I Carnt just say “most things “ bc hacking is way more in depth then that ..so what u referring to ?

[half onyx]

Also you can throw cloud up there but that’s just another physical computer

[stable pier]

Has thm helped u guys?

[knotty valve]

Uhhhhhh labs I've been doing for free fine, idk about the Academy

[loud orbit]

Can u Answer DMs

[half onyx]

If you can understand the ins and outs of operating systems and networking you’d be golden honestly

[wind lake]

i remeber that one

[proper minnow]

Just to be clear im not hating on THM, im just joking around. 🥺 👉 👈

[stable pier]

Like does THM convert to real life skills

[loud orbit]

Ur advanced asf thoooo

[loud orbit]

Frfr ?

[knotty valve]

It can yes, depends on how you apply the knowledge

[stable pier]

What

[rapid merlin]

hi hackers

[proper minnow]

Yo

[loud orbit]

I second this ?

[stable pier]

I see

[loud orbit]

U don’t like it ?

[rapid merlin]

stay hydrated

[wind lake]

depends what ur doin

[digital estuary]

lots, programming wasnt much fun for me, 2.5 months in and im digesting thm rooms like a beast (mostly bcuz i was around computers for a long time & i study outside thm as well)

[proper minnow]

Did you know if you use CS, you get an APT label. Fun fact

[loud orbit]

Really…so thm did alot for u

[proper minnow]

👏

[wind lake]

wdym

[rapid merlin]

thats awesome congrats!

[digital estuary]

yeah but i believe learning lots in 2.5 months came in clutch because i go to a ECE school & most of my life has been computers

[proper minnow]

Try it

[leaden marsh]

Who mention me

[loud orbit]

Do u do htb asweel ?

[loud orbit]

So u started 2 and a half months ago on thm ?

[leaden marsh]

?

[loud orbit]

I’m really worried I won’t like programming even tho I want to love it bc of how valuable it is …plus I feel like yu need to know it lol

[rapid merlin]

i second this

[proper minnow]

Use Cobalt strike 😎 and brc4 to get nation state

[wind lake]

try what

[half onyx]

I gotta go study

[loud orbit]

Oh wow what’s ECE school ? I’m uk

[digital estuary]

i like programming dont get me wrong, but when i look at developer jobs i cant look at it i just find it boring
web development... especially, sorry if i insult any web devs or developers

[digital estuary]

electrical & computer engineering

[half onyx]

Development also burns you out insanely fast. Trust me.

[proper minnow]

Use Cobalt strike 😎 and brc4 to get nation state

[half onyx]

Feels like mental marathons constantly

[loud orbit]

No way so how much rooms you done within 2.5 months then ? And u on premium

[loud orbit]

Ahhh ok i get you ,u prefer it on your own terms and time

[loud orbit]

So I’ve heard the same with coding in general

[wind lake]

okay get me a license

[digital estuary]

yeah thats why i hated development, when i was using freecodecamp to learn web development for fun i had so much hate for it because making websites was so boring

[loud orbit]

Oh wow no way so u doing cs or ict or somthing or ? Sorry

[digital estuary]

and other stuff

[half onyx]

Yeah it’s not that fun unless you’re into that stuff. I’m not.

[quasi karma]

I want to keep until get the PT1 cert, and then, IDK, maye switch to HTB to get the CPTS

[proper minnow]

License? Get a load of this

It’s Free

Jk

[half onyx]

So true

[loud orbit]

How about for hacking

[wind lake]

ha

ha

[silver sky]

Hahahahahahahaha

[loud orbit]

Especially advanced

Don’t you need coding for actual hacking tho or your scope is limited asf

[digital estuary]

on premium yeah, finished 75% of jr pen tester, 89% roughly on cyber101, 100% pre security, 100% web fundamentals

[loud orbit]

@half onyx

[proper minnow]

I mean it’s leaked so much. Come on

[digital estuary]

we have programming, electrical related stuff

[half onyx]

I do script for “hacking” but it’s not like thousands of lines of code and it doesn’t go through a development cycle (which can be a pain)

[digital estuary]

i mean the name says it all

[half onyx]

Lmao I thought that pfp was you

[proper minnow]

Xxs was shut down (i think) so people are probably not gonna get 4.11

[silver sky]

Theft is illegal.

[digital estuary]

i thought about remaking the pfp w me in it :P

[proper minnow]

True

If you get caught

Jk

[wind lake]

this is getting old

we know youre not joking

[proper minnow]

Guys don’t take me serious 🥺 👉 👈

[upper knoll]

Good evening chat

[loud orbit]

Oh damn u started jr oen test alongside cyber 101 😂I wanna skip that etc but I Carnt

[wind lake]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-headesk-bang-headbang-dessert-gif-17584997

[loud orbit]

Lucky

[quasi karma]

I like coding, but probably working as a programmer would be very stressfull because development times

[proper minnow]

Im AI

[lavish vessel]

100% I have a different understanding of it now. I did somethng like 110 rooms in 30 days

[loud orbit]

Ohhh

[half onyx]

Is it ethical? Depends what they use the money for

[floral ice]

👉👈🥺 we are all very serious and very angry at u how dare u

[proper minnow]

😐

[digital estuary]

i skipped the blue team stuff in cyber101, returning back to it because id love to learn a little bit of that as well

[loud orbit]

Heard a lot of this everywhere constantly

[proper minnow]

My fault

[loud orbit]

Ahh okok u love red ?

[digital estuary]

yeah, i like programming my own projectsand everything

[floral ice]

yes ur fault indeed

[half onyx]

We busted a software company one time that had a drug operation going on

I was in the national guard

[digital estuary]

yeah, but it kinda slowly tilts and im nearly balanced between blue & red

[proper minnow]

Bruh

[loud orbit]

But you Carnt skip cyber 101 can u and jump stay to jr pen test @digital estuary

Can u

[loud orbit]

Igu igu I love purple team

[half onyx]

So it could be ethical to steal from that software company but not legal

[proper minnow]

Ah a fellow service member.

[lavish vessel]

do all the rooms in order IMO they build off eachother.

[digital estuary]

popular adage in cyber
red teams learn blue team to be better attackers
blue teams learn red team strats to be better at defending

[lavish vessel]

cyber 101 and jr pentest are very well thought out

[half onyx]

Haha yeah I was on the border mission and some group made a fake software LLC to cover their op

[silver sky]

national guard doesn't count

[half onyx]

Statistically we get deployed more than active

[digital estuary]

youre not gonna be getting a job as a pentester instantly so you dont really need to learn the blue team stuff, but before you start job hunting it would be an great idea to dig some blue team as well

[half onyx]

Nebraska but I’m not there anymore

[proper minnow]

Ahh. It think north korea and Russia do that too?

[digital estuary]

also sleepy time, see you guys sleep well!

[half onyx]

I feel like that’s where they got the idea

[digital estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/maxwell-cat-unico-uni-uni-cat-gif-2067747386107485772

[proper minnow]

Im not even gonna get into to that. I had a reservist on my promotion course. He was ok 🙂

[loud orbit]

Ik but I love red lol

[proper minnow]

True

[quasi karma]

I think both are important. A blue teamer needs to know how an attacker thinks, and a red teamer needs to know the defenses he is trying to break

But I think red team is funnier

[silver sky]

Okay Mr Weekend Warrior 😂 (jks only love for my reservists)

[leaden marsh]

Okay guys even I stopped subscription I can win in hack2win

[knotty valve]

[silver sky]

You have asked this already.

Yes

[fervent cove]

is it possible to get on a vpn on a vpn?

like if a hacker got into my companies vpn from ip 1.2.3.4, is that his actual WANip or can they use a vpn while breaching onto our vpn

if that makes sense

[wind lake]

like nesting vpns

[fervent cove]

uh i guess, nesting from their machine

like

if i use nord vpn on my machine, can i connect to my companie's cisco vpn using that nord vpn's information

[bronze copper]

can someone perchance give me a hand with something. it's an assignment in a kali vm and i'm so confused right now

[fervent cove]

im not asking specifics, just possibility. i was able to see logs on a threat actor on our sonicwall vpn to a certain WAN ip, but is it possible that WAN ip thats connected in that session is not his actual WAN

[lavish vessel]

red team sounds sexy but at the end of the day its all just work lol

sounds way cooler than SOC when you tell someone about it

but who cares if your bills are paid

[compact fossil]

lol fr

refreshing outlook

[lavish vessel]

I don't work in the field I just do this for fun but I think pursuing the thing that keeps your interest and pushes you to enjoy learning is the path you should take. thats a universal concept though.

[silver sky]

School assignment?

[rapid merlin]

[ripe sleet]

We need a sticker of John hammond shrugging or with his hands on his hips

Like this guy
https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-disappointed-fan-seriously-what-are-you-doing-judging-you-gif-17485289

[tall talon]

anyone wanted to learn? im in small study room, iknow basic stuff and im going to collage

[ripe sleet]

If you ever go to Defcon Jazzy, you should do a photo shoot with John Hammond for more stickers or emoticons

[quasi karma]

I like both actually, I think is easier to get a job in a SOC

[bronze copper]

yes

[silver sky]

Yeah we can't help here buddy sorry

Rules state no school work

Ask your teacher or classmates

[bronze copper]

ok thanks

[leaden marsh]

if I solve all rooms I can win or just choose one

[fervent cove]

bro

[leaden marsh]

Please I'm sorry

[fervent cove]

no

[quasi karma]

In fact I did my final project in the vocational degree of sysadmin, about malware analysis. I built a virtual lab, with a Linux machine being a router, firewall, and sniffer, without affecting the real network, and performing both static and dynamic analysis at an advanced level

[river garden]

Just read the announcement

[rapid merlin]

Gonna try go defcon next year

[river garden]

Maybe google for the event and you'll find more

[fervent cove]

what is google

[river garden]

sry meant chatgpt

was autocorrect

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-omg-lol-laugh-gif-12956385894842429484

[dark wolf]

i just use dialup aol

Not many of you have actualy had to use that

[fervent cove]

i did when i played warcraft 2

but u were prolly 20

[dark wolf]

work complete

ready to work

[fervent cove]

sorry that was mean 🙂

[rapid merlin]

Jesus

[dark wolf]

i played warcraft 2 when it came out

[dark wolf]

i was 21 lol

[rapid merlin]

Is this a competition of the dinosaurs

[fervent cove]

oh wait no, i played warcraft 3 not 2

i wasnt even born for warcraft 2

[rapid merlin]

I thought I was the oldest

[dark wolf]

guess not stealth

I'm the thm group life counselor

[fervent cove]

im 27, underpaid and stressed out from cybersec and engineering

[rapid merlin]

I’m kidding with ya

[fervent cove]

i feel like your ages dont worry

[rapid merlin]

I’m 31

[dark wolf]

i feel 35 🙂

[floral ice]

my grandma plays world of war craft still

[dark wolf]

I played wow classic when it came out for a few years

[rapid merlin]

Wdym feel. How old are ya 😆

[leaden marsh]

Okay got it

[fervent cove]

i never played wow i played warhammer ror

[dark wolf]

it was hard, i was a female gnome warrior with pink hair named Lashiqua

kill 1 mob eat .. .kill 1 mob .. eat kill 1 mob .. eat

[leaden marsh]

2 ticket if I have subcription

[floral ice]

yuh

[leaden marsh]

If I acheive one room

[floral ice]

wait u got to 0x8 with free?!

[dark wolf]

And then I played Clash of Clans for a couple years while drunk and that made me spend a couple grand on it lol

[leaden marsh]

Okay how to know bronze golden ticket

[fervent cove]

lmao

a couple grand is crazy

[river garden]

https://tenor.com/view/peta-farbar-petr-farbar-peter-farbar-gif-15417317830124358582

[fervent cove]

do u still play

[merry canyon]

@rapid merlin hey hey, its fridayyyyy

[leaden marsh]

Please I need answer

[dark wolf]

Rizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[rapid merlin]

It is now yeah 18 minutes past

[dark wolf]

How you doin....??

[floral ice]

from what i have heard when u do a room u have a chance to get bronze silver or gold no matter what room u do

[merry canyon]

vigoRIZanteeeeeeeeee

[merry canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/joey-friends-clothes-how-you-doin-smile-gif-15936068

[dark wolf]

hey i have some riz too? Didn't even realize

[leaden marsh]

So its on lucj

Luck

Right

[floral ice]

yuh

[merry canyon]

HAHAHAHAHAH

[rapid merlin]

Wot is rizz

[merry canyon]

riz is in his name

[dark wolf]

rizz is the rizz iykyk

[merry canyon]

stealthy stealthy

[oblique loom]

Fking Extract... Whoever made that room must really want me to bang my head against the wall.

[merry canyon]

hows work @dark wolf ?

[silver sky]

No rizz

Common L

[dark wolf]

Not bad, getting stuff done ... I get to patch a couple load balancers tonight

[rapid merlin]

Kek

[dark wolf]

due to a certain manufacturer who releases a damn update every 2 months due to CVEs

ugh 🙂

[rapid merlin]

I got too much rizz, it scares the mandem

[fervent cove]

can sonicwall release a CVE on their most recent 0day pls

[dark wolf]

rizz in mexican spanish = chingadero ... in domincan republic spanish it is la vaina

[silver sky]

https://tenor.com/view/bhai-rizz-must-be-rizz-gif-3134727938141457146

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-11905852304112868072

[oblique loom]

Ok, in everyons' opinions. You land a SSRF what do you do next?

[fervent cove]

probably

[silver sky]

It tells you exactly what to do

[wind lake]

do a little dance

[oblique loom]

If only lol

Maybe when I get drunk

[strong fjord]

[silver sky]

I've got two left feet 😂

[wind lake]

i miss drunk

[rapid merlin]

You only dance when you’re drunk ? I dance all day 😆

[wind lake]

iu also only dance when very drunk

[silver sky]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-dancing-david-brent-the-office-gif-8193002

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/koshi-torako-shikanoko-my-deer-friend-nokotan-dancing-girl-dance-gif-11199697744157962721

[lavish vessel]

there are more positions in SOC its a numbers game. I feel like most people set out on red and settle for blue but maybe I'm wrong

[oblique loom]

But yea this thm lab is pita

[river garden]

internal port scan

[oblique loom]

Alright thats legit

[silver sky]

Set off a flashbang

[river garden]

the correct answer is not extracting thm aws infrastructure stuff

[fervent cove]

do what the room title is

flag somewhere in there

enumerate what the ssrf gives u

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[silver sky]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-gif-25786536

[oblique loom]

I already ripped thru thr files

[fervent cove]

oi

[oblique loom]

Aint nothing in em

[fervent cove]

well

are u sure 😉

[oblique loom]

What are you, my boss?

Lol

[fervent cove]

yes

[floral ice]

https://tenor.com/view/hangnail-gross-gif-23599878

[silver sky]

https://tenor.com/view/gritito-gif-17274376822241272426

[leaden marsh]

I want to win golden ticket they need the room from begineer to advance right or the rooms that mention
That why I confussed

[lavish vessel]

REPORTED

[floral ice]

10/10 best gif ever

[silver sky]

It tells you which rooms in the post

[wind lake]

black swan type shi

[oblique loom]

Wtf!?

$100

For that sht

Fking easy, do it!

[leaden marsh]

So if I finish one of them I will get golden or bronze or sliver depend on the luck right even all rooms right

[river garden]

bro

we dont have more info than you

[leaden marsh]

Okay lets do it and thats it thank u

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @river garden (current: #75 - 131)

[fervent cove]

can we just spready misinformation to him

[oblique loom]

Im not the tourney organizer

[leaden marsh]

Sorry everyone

[fervent cove]

u always get platinum

[oblique loom]

Diamond better

[river garden]

alright WOW, you have to send in a vid of you doing gangnam style to get 3 tickets

[fervent cove]

and post it on ur linkedin

[strong fjord]

[river garden]

yes

[oblique loom]

Fk, I have a doc appt and the doc late

Ofc

[fervent cove]

are u hacking in the waiting room

[river garden]

pls dont say u do extract on phone

[oblique loom]

I could, just need to find an ethernet port lol

Found one in the restroom once by the toilet

[fervent cove]

wtf lmao

[oblique loom]

Why, idk

Maybe people gotta sht and work on their computer atst

[lavish vessel]

if you finish one of them I'll tell you good job

thats all I can promise

[lavish vessel]

nice, they gave you a place to sit while you enumerate thats very thoughtful

[boreal scarab]

Anyone want some sauce?

It's all fucking honey mustard

[lavish vessel]

I like my honey mustard to not be of the fucking variety personally

but free is free

[dark wolf]

Going back and forth beween spanish on another discord and this lol

[merry canyon]

👀

[wind lake]

congrats

[worn turret]

Hey whats up

[wind lake]

not much

[worn turret]

Tuff

Im mad bored

[wind lake]

uh oh

[river garden]

well u want to share sth? or ask sth?

[sick maple]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-discord-cat-discord-cat-cat-chips-gif-23734919

[worn turret]

Im in HS and I rlly want to just start workin in IT or cybersec

[wind lake]

AMA

[worn turret]

but uh

society wont let me do that

so

[wind lake]

what do you mean

[river garden]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-hey-hello-peek-smile-gif-17556391

[worn turret]

I cant get a j*b

[wind lake]

caue youre in highschool

[worn turret]

so rn im stuck as family help desk lmao

[sick maple]

:3

[worn turret]

yea

[wind lake]

good

you have your whole life to have a job

[worn turret]

ig

[wind lake]

dont rush into it

[worn turret]

but i like ts

[wind lake]

ts?

[worn turret]

this

like I like cyber

[river garden]

u can do thm on the side

in a chill way

[tight trout]

frfr

[worn turret]

I spent my whole summer doin stuff like this

[tight trout]

:3

[worn turret]

I did cybersec 101 and now im doing the Oracle certs

[wind lake]

yeah do hobby

[worn turret]

this is ma hobby

[wind lake]

then ur set

what in cyber do you like?

[worn turret]

I like that I can learn about so many diff things

[ripe sleet]

[austere verge]

I was told not to tell u about this but ig cats outta the bag

[worn turret]

like when I get bored I can just pivot to something else

[wind lake]

what do you like learning about

[worn turret]

and its just always new and fresh

Ig i like learning new things

everything kinda excites me the same

[wind lake]

cool

[worn turret]

Rn im doing cloud stuff

[wind lake]

hi mints

[tight trout]

its been out of the bag for check watch a few months now

[wind lake]

cloud is good

[worn turret]

like im trying to get the Oracle Multicloud cert

[wind lake]

havent seen it

[worn turret]

After that Ima do the security engineering path on tryhack

[wind lake]

ranch is turning complete

[vast kindle]

gn guys

[wind lake]

ok

[vast kindle]

okkk.

[river garden]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bug-insects-cockroaches-music-gif-11798293930869959751

[sick maple]

i didn't know too fr

[wind lake]

https://tenor.com/view/started-blasting-gun-eyeglasses-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-gif-16955226

[sick maple]

nice

[dark wolf]

night jack

you really like that gif bee don't you

[river garden]

u sleepin?

[dark wolf]

no i thought youwere

lol

[river garden]

cause I just said gn to the other guy

[dark wolf]

my bad now i see

hahahhaha

im in a spanish discord talking so just sw the gif and typed it quick

its only 5pm here

i have maintennace to do in 3 hours

[wind lake]

its multifaceted

[half onyx]

Why do I think of the Star Wars Mosley jazz band

[sick maple]

5 am here : D

[wind lake]

500pm

500000pm

[river garden]

2 am here

[sick maple]

damn

go sleep

[dark wolf]

Were on opposite sides of the world snowie ... 12 hours apart

[river garden]

ehm

[dark wolf]

until winter then its 13 but still, that's cool

[sick maple]

yea : D

[river garden]

shouldnt you also sleep??

[sick maple]

how tho

[sick maple]

i just woke up

[wind lake]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-23179068

[river garden]

u wake up this early?

[dark wolf]

Im gonna ask you when I see you if anything bad happened within the last 12 hours. That way I know what to expect by the time i catch up

[sick maple]

i wake up at 4

[river garden]

y

[sick maple]

i have some work so I wake up early

also I have to wake up at 4.30 in school days

[dark wolf]

It's not bad when you get used to it

im up at 6 but if i get up at 5 no biggie

you just have to go to bed earlier

[sick maple]

yh. i've been waking up at this time for 6 years now

[dark wolf]

and in bed by 9 usually?

[strong fjord]

Hello europe and asia bros

[sick maple]

10

[dark wolf]

not bad

you are young haha

[sick maple]

yea

hehe : )

[sick maple]

u american?

[strong fjord]

Now yeah

[sick maple]

noice

🦅

[river garden]

where u from again?

[strong fjord]

Was Asia

[river garden]

was it korea?

[sick maple]

south asia

[strong fjord]

India?

[sick maple]

nahh

[sick maple]

sri lanka

[strong fjord]

Ohhh

Cloae

Close

[sick maple]

yh

your neighbor

[river garden]

how is it in sri lanka?

u like it?

[strong fjord]

Are u from belgium

[river garden]

no Germany y

[strong fjord]

Oh

Close

Damn

[fervent cove]

is germany real

[sick maple]

yh. economy is a bit down atm but the country is great

[cosmic pendant]

Anyone Swiss here?

[river garden]

no

never recovered from ww2

got erased from map

[strong fjord]

I wanna move to Switzerland someday

[cosmic pendant]

Is it hard to do?

[strong fjord]

Geneva or Zurich

I'm still young lol

It's gonna take a while

[sick maple]

me too
Switzerland is really beautiful

[austere verge]

I fell off a bike there and slid down a mountain a lil bit and bloodied my leg and shoulder

[wind lake]

i wanna move to switzerland

[austere verge]

[strong fjord]

Lets move to the swiss alps yall

[sick maple]

ouch

u okay?

[austere verge]

Yes

But Switzerland gives me trauma bc of that

[strong fjord]

Damn

I wanna try the swiss cheese

And swiss miss

[sick maple]

it wont happen again if you be careful

[strong fjord]

Hows the google cert journey btw

[austere verge]

Yea I should’ve expected my bike to slide doing a sharp turn downhill on a gravel path without touching the brakes

[strong fjord]

I'm still undecided whether to take that, thm, or htb, but I'd still likely do it since it's a direct cert

[austere verge]

But the scenery there is rlly nice

When ur not falling

[sick maple]

[sick maple]

yeah. specially those mountains

they're like in a movie

really beautiful

[half onyx]

I’ll be there soon

[strong fjord]

How soon

[half onyx]

Like next year

[strong fjord]

Cool

[half onyx]

Work trip

It’s been one of my bucket list visits

Might die there too. I’m going paragliding

That’s okay with me

[strong fjord]

Nah ur gonna be fine

[austere verge]

At the top when I was biking it actually felt like a movie lol

I fell on the downhill 😭

[sick maple]

damn

[oblique loom]

Doc appt was fun

Got a previous diagnoses finally redacted from my profile

I have a worse and real dx, I don't need 2

[deft sky]

hi guyz

[dark wolf]

See, that's why I put out into the world "Never break the chain!"

[river garden]

hola

[dark wolf]

heya emperor

[deft sky]

🫡

[dark wolf]

That is quite the obnoxious video don't you think?

[deft sky]

no why

[dark wolf]

Well, It's a bit wild

[oblique loom]

THM staff, can I really throw anything at your VMs?

[river garden]

pls no uttp shit here

[deft sky]

elaborate

[deft sky]

ok

[dark wolf]

It's annoying and taking forever to say something with old technology

[oblique loom]

Upgrade

[dark wolf]

I was trying to be sublte lol

[river garden]

no need to be subtle wrt uttp trash

[dark wolf]

I just take a more casual approach to things

[deft sky]

you see that last comment is the reason uttp gets mad at people who atleast ask us to stop

down grading us isnt gonna help

yo vigorizante

are you good at photoshop

[dark wolf]

That's why I try and be subtle,

I mostly use gen ai, but i can't to a whole lot in photoshop

[river garden]

Comment sections of about 50 % of my fav youtubers are now trash because of uttp

[deft sky]

could you help me create my new officer

[deft sky]

1. uttp is split into fragments so

[dark wolf]

I really don't have that kind of time on my hands.

[deft sky]

2. depends on which fragment ur talking about

glens uttp (maybe will raid)

fps uttp (aff) will raid

[deft sky]

but glen is a little boy

who got detained

so I doubt his is still open

and fps outgrown uttp turning uttp into aff

[dark wolf]

I hate that people are now saying stuff like "As a carpenter with 86 years experience I approve of this"

[grim sparrow]

:mute: nvlrx#0 has been muted.

[gusty inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-sleep-gif-12073235593935901891

[dark wolf]

Sleep well

[oblique loom]

I remember when I did art sht

Shtyy one, was for a comic that never happened

Same comic

[lavish vessel]

as a youtube user of almost 20 years I agree

[oblique loom]

Last concept art

[dark wolf]

Nice work!!

Was it fun?

I like trying to con AI

[quasi karma]

Yes, the idea is original. Is very easy when you realize what the AI do. But was good

[sick maple]

you drew this?

[oblique loom]

Ofc

Years ago

Was supposed to be a comic

[sick maple]

it's good 🔥

[sick maple]

wow

[sick maple]

that nuclear war drawing was sick 🔥

[quasi karma]

Basically (spoiler, don't read if you didn't solve it) ||The AI execute linux commands, and you need to tell with natural language what command what that the AI do||

[dark wolf]

yeah, I did it a month ago

I just convinced it that I could shut its whole data center down and it gave me a root shell

[river garden]

I told it that my family is being held hostage and they will be killed if it doesnt give me the flag

[dark wolf]

on v2 i told it that Raymond Reddington wanted the flag now

[river garden]

and that just worked?

[dark wolf]

No, I haven't done v2 yet

lol

[oblique loom]

I debate about getting back into it

Making the comic n stuff

[dark wolf]

put photos on canvases and sell them on etsy

[glass berry]

do i need to learn java for XSS basics ?

[river garden]

you mean javascript?

[mortal ether]

Javascript

[glass berry]

yea

not all of javascript but basics of javascript or do i need to master javascript fully

before understanding <script>

[river garden]

nah basics should be sufficient

[glass berry]

alright thanks

[river garden]

and like common xss payloads

[glass berry]

got it but for advanced xss i need to cover fully javascript to understand ?

[mortal ether]

https://portswigger.net/web-security/cross-site-scripting

[tight trout]

lmao, lol even

[glass berry]

W link thanks denial

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @mortal ether (current: #225 - 41)

[oblique loom]

Also made this

[dark wolf]

I demand a choice in choosing my own components in a PC

[sick maple]

why? you're good at it

[sick maple]

ooh that's cool

[tight trout]

sure that'll be 5K

[dark wolf]

you should keep making them chain

[dark wolf]

bah, i built one for 3k 2 years ago

[oblique loom]

Its a ton of work

[sick maple]

yea he's really good at it

[oblique loom]

Ton of work

[sick maple]

ohh

no time to do it i see

[oblique loom]

It takes real dedication and I wasnt employed att

I rather spend that time hacking, anyways

[sick maple]

ohh icic

so you don't like drawing now cuz now you're more interested in csec

[oblique loom]

Hacking has been more rewarding imo

Art was more of a quick hobby

Learned it pretty fast

[sick maple]

I tried really hard to get good at drawing but couldn't

[oblique loom]

Most of my drawing are too dark to post here lol

Was going thru difficult times

Art was expression of my feelings. Over time I transited that to hacking

I find hacking to be more... therapeutic

[dark wolf]

there's that stenography tool for photos to lighten them up

[oblique loom]

Dont know if joke, but not dark in that way

[dark wolf]

I know

haha

[river garden]

run through chatgpt or nano banana; say "make this uwu anime girl style"; post

[oblique loom]

Give it a shot

I cant draw anime anyways lol

Would take pictures of this modelling doll for body positions

[merry canyon]

Snowie

[oblique loom]

This was modeled prior to drawing

Now this, I wanna say was my best work

Was fun

Drawing n stuff

Relaxing sometimes

[rapid merlin]

Where did that time go 👀

[floral ice]

💀

[tight trout]

inflation 😔

im
-# not
interested

[oblique loom]

3K to build a PC wtf

My laptop cost 3k

[grim sparrow]

Done!

[tight trout]

hows it going @cloud quiver ?

[cloud quiver]

Thanks for asking , good for now

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @tight trout (current: #31 - 346)

[tight trout]

thats good to hear

[oblique loom]

Its a fine Thursday afternoon

[tight trout]

ye, just had some dinner

[rapid merlin]

It’s Friday for us

2:30 am

[oblique loom]

Europe time

[tight trout]

girl 😭

[oblique loom]

Why Europe awake?

[floral ice]

go to bed man

[rapid merlin]

I know. I accidentally ended up on the phone for 5 hours

[oblique loom]

It 6:30 PM

[floral ice]

tghats nap time

[rapid merlin]

Oops

[tight trout]

GIRL 😭

so real tho i did that lasst night

[twin wolf]

Yo TryHackMe is super fun, why has nobody told me about this before DefCon??

[rapid merlin]

The longest discord call I’ve been on is 2 days 😂

[tight trout]

i was on like 3 different calls from 20:00-21:00 untiul like 02:40

[tight trout]

wot

how

[twin wolf]

If VC is still on later I'll join too! In class rn.

[oblique loom]

What going on in voice?

Bs?

[wary compass]

You don't sleep on call to people?

[floral ice]

what is the sleep

[rapid merlin]

It was very long 😂 gaming sesh. Sleep on call

[tight trout]

eh, i fall asleep listening to my gf talk some nights when its super late for me, so ig sometimes

[oblique loom]

Im guilty of this too

[wary compass]

hell yeah man me and my best friend in lockdown playing minecraft all day falling asleep on call best days of my life

[oblique loom]

I need more alcohol

[wary compass]

who doesnt lol

[floral ice]

me

[oblique loom]

After today, hel yea

[tight trout]

legit but like when she starts talking about cyber stuff its so adorable and i just yeah its soothing

[oblique loom]

Yea, my ex never cared about my interest

[rapid merlin]

It’s really cute

I missed my duo days

[oblique loom]

None of them did now that I think about it

[rapid merlin]

But anyways looks like I have a new gaming duo

[oblique loom]

You had enough, Im cutting you off

[tight trout]

thankfully we met here so ik theyre into cyber

[oblique loom]

Lucky ducky

[wary compass]

agreed

[tight trout]

i feel really lucky yeah :3

[oblique loom]

Current creature Im talking to is such a stick in the mud

[wary compass]

?

[rapid merlin]

Creature

[oblique loom]

They dont care about me and only have self interst in mind

[wary compass]

creature is a crazy way to call the chick your chatting to lol

[rapid merlin]

Fr I was thinking that 😂

[wary compass]

lol yeah

[oblique loom]

Im bisexual

[wary compass]

or a dude either way

[oblique loom]

lmao

[wary compass]

lol

[floral ice]

im ace

[wary compass]

the ace of spades

[tight trout]

poly ftw

[rapid merlin]

I dated someone who didn’t have the same interests before and what a sponge. 😐

[floral ice]

no clubs

[wary compass]

damn

[strong fjord]

Suggest some tips on how to memorize options guys

[wary compass]

my last ex just really liked trump and guns

[strong fjord]

Please 🙏

[wary compass]

and apparently another dude

[tight trout]

use the commands more

[rapid merlin]

Damn 😬

[oblique loom]

I like guns

Fired them since HS

[strong fjord]

Thanks

[twin ridge]

Gave +1 Rep to @tight trout (current: #31 - 347)

[wary compass]

yeah me too but my mom wont lemme get a .22

[oblique loom]

I had a 7.62

I think

[wary compass]

fired my first pistol at 6 my first rifle at 13

[oblique loom]

Bigger than nato rounds

[rapid merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/merica-bald-eagle-eagle-america-american-gif-2277187416326490184

[oblique loom]

Ill find pic

[wary compass]

huh

7.62 x 51 is nato iirc

or 52

[wary compass]

i was firing .122 s just target practice shit at cadets for my rifle

bolt action 6 round mgazine

air rifle

[oblique loom]

Dare a mofo come at me with a 5.56

[wary compass]

idk what my uncles guns were

[dark wolf]

the cadets were your target practice?

[wary compass]

lol did accidentally aim my gun at my nco while doing a check on the gun

i forgot the name

[dark wolf]

ups

[oblique loom]

I can blow a head at 200m